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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with on our radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Almost Famous.

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Speaker 3: We're here today breaking down every headline that we know

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Speaker 3: of in Bachelor Nation. We've done some deep diving this

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Speaker 3: week to find out what is exactly happening.

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Speaker 2: Ashley's with us today.

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Speaker 3: Obviously the big news right now, Ashley, as we're starting

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Speaker 3: to see teasers, we got some cast members announced for

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Speaker 3: this upcoming season of Paradise.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be the tenth season. Ashley. Your thoughts

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Speaker 2: after seeing the cast.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of the thoughts that I have every year.

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Speaker 4: The guys still have yes every year?

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Speaker 2: Oh you always have this? Oh, yes you do. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's the guys are going to have a great selection

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Speaker 4: of ladies to pick from, and the.

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Speaker 5: Girls guys that are on par with what you would

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Speaker 5: see if you open the door of a new bar.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody has ever done disagreed with you

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Speaker 3: on that. Okay, I really don't.

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Speaker 2: Uh, why do you think that is?

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's let's talk about that for a second.

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Speaker 3: I mean, coming off of each show, we felt that

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Speaker 3: way about gen season, so I'm and I think most

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Speaker 3: fans did so. I am shocked to see so many

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Speaker 3: contestants from Gen season show up to Paradise. I felt

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Speaker 3: like they would be kind of for lack of a

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Speaker 3: better child, Yeah, exiled, Like, hey, yeah, you're you're not

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Speaker 3: going We're not going to be highlighting you any longer.

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Speaker 3: You're obviously not bringing in the viewership.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The person that won from your season obviously, like you know,

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Speaker 3: didn't stand out. But yet we see so many of

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Speaker 3: her contestants.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was weird. So all we have is the

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Speaker 4: first first sand So these are the people that are

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Speaker 4: going to be like in the beginning of episode one.

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Speaker 4: It may not even be like all of episode one.

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Speaker 4: So we have well we did a whole episode, but

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Speaker 4: we didn't. But Trista Fielden for us. Very sweet, Thank you, Trista.

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Speaker 4: Go back and listen to that episode. She went through

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Speaker 4: them all but quickly. Alex, who we all liked from

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Speaker 4: Grand season, Bailey also memorable from Grand season. Brian from

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Speaker 4: Gen season. Don't remember him. I'm just gonna do, like

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Speaker 4: off the top of my head, like do I remember them?

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Speaker 5: Do I not remember them? Do I have to think hard? Dale?

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Speaker 4: Of course, Dale is gonna be the most memorable of

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Speaker 4: everyone because he was the one who left with Claire.

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Speaker 4: He's only thirty six now. He was very young during

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Speaker 4: Claire season. Hickem hilarious, great facial expressions from Gen season.

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Speaker 4: Jeremy from gen Zeason, remember him too? He was fourth,

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Speaker 4: he was he made it to hometowns. Just from Joey season.

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Speaker 4: I do remember her. She has brown hair right now,

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Speaker 4: so you may not remember her at first glance. Jonathan

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Speaker 4: also quite memorable from jen season justin glaze. All of

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Speaker 4: Justina from Katie's season also had such a public relationship

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Speaker 4: with Susie. We we know, we can say we know

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Speaker 4: that Susie is coming, but she's definitely gonna be one

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Speaker 4: of those people that come on to the Sand a

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Speaker 4: little bit later for drama effect. Of course, because they

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Speaker 4: don't get all the A listers in the first Sand group.

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Speaker 4: Then we have Kat who got engaged to John Henry

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Speaker 4: last season of Paradise. We do love Kat for a

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Speaker 4: dramatic moment. Kyle from Katie season, don't remember him at all.

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Speaker 4: Lexi gorgeous girl from Joey's season. She was the one

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Speaker 4: who talked about her struggle to maybe not be able

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Speaker 4: to have kids?

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Speaker 5: Was it PCs?

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Speaker 4: I forget what she has, but she has a bad

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Speaker 4: and Jimmy Trio's as bad. I remember that Ricky from

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Speaker 4: Jen season. I do remember his face, but I don't

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Speaker 4: remember his storyline with him Sam. I remember he was

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Speaker 4: kind of a where we weren't sure if he was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but kind of still a question if he was

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Speaker 5: Oh he was against holy crap.

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Speaker 2: So we don't really know. Yeah, we don't really know.

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Speaker 2: Now we'll wait for Paradise.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Spencer Gen season, Yes, I think he was like

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Speaker 4: lot of girls asked for him to be there in Paradise.

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Speaker 4: Zoe from Grand season, remember her? She was second runner up,

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Speaker 4: which sounds like pageants speak, But you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: And that's it.

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Speaker 4: So I guess there's really a few don't remember them,

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Speaker 4: to qualify people by listeners, but you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I do know you mean, I I'm

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Speaker 3: surprised to see the casting not bring out people more

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of them out there. I felt like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I loaded the beach up with some guys and

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Speaker 3: Especially I mean, I know you said that you don't

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Speaker 2: I think it was important.

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Speaker 3: I think it's very important for Paradise to start out

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Speaker 3: really hot right now with that first episode where people

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Speaker 2: Know, especially Ashley.

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Speaker 3: And here's my twist as we kind of go on

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Speaker 3: to the second part of this, I'm surprised they didn't

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Speaker 3: bring out people from the past Bachelor and Bachelorette because

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Speaker 3: it seems like Paradise, Jesse Palmer, Wells, Hannah Brown are

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Speaker 3: all really kind of teasing this.

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Speaker 2: Golden's being there.

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Speaker 3: And I know you asked Hannah if there was going

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Speaker 3: to be any flirtation between the Bachelor Bachelorettes and the Goldens.

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Speaker 3: It felt like that would be more likely if they

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Speaker 3: would have brought out people from the past who are

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Speaker 5: Oh, can you think of any more on the top

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Speaker 5: of your head? I have one. Wow, the time my

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Speaker 5: head came quick J. P. Rosenbaum. He would have been

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Speaker 5: he would have been big.

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Speaker 4: It would have been an older ish generation where people

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Speaker 4: would be like excited to see him date Ashley post divorce,

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Speaker 4: first Bachelor divorce and the divorce ends up on Paradise

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Speaker 4: and in between the age of the Goldens and the

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Speaker 3: And then there's the guy even Desire who left Desire

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love Brooks. I think Brooks my being in

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm not keeping track of all these people, but there

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Speaker 2: But they didn't. So Ashley.

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Speaker 3: The next headline is kind of is still teasing this

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Speaker 3: idea that the Goldens and the Bachelor and Bachelorettes are

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Speaker 3: going to be mingling. When you asked Hannah a little

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Speaker 3: teaser into that episode you did with her about flirting

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Speaker 3: between the two parties.

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Speaker 2: What did you say?

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Speaker 5: She did her big Hannah Brown smile.

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Speaker 2: Where did you pick up on?

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Speaker 5: To me? My interpretation was that there's flirting but no relationship.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, Do you think the show actually wanted relationship.

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Speaker 2: Or is this just for conversation's sake?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I definitely think they wanted the conversation out there. I

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Speaker 4: think there was a reason that last week there were

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Speaker 4: was some reaction from past cast that was like, sir, no,

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Speaker 3: Well, the big news this week and a massive congratulations

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Speaker 3: to the two of them. They are sweet kind We've

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Speaker 3: been around them multiple times during almost famous events. They're very,

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Speaker 3: very genuine people. Zach Shallcross and Katie Bigger are now married.

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Speaker 3: This is a Texas wedding. It was not a super

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Speaker 3: like publicized event. There was not a lot of lead

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Speaker 3: but Ashley, they are now married and we cannot be happier.

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Speaker 4: So happy love this And to everybody who said that

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Speaker 4: Zach was a lame bachelor choice, well look it was

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Speaker 5: He found his wife through it.

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Speaker 4: And I think that they're gonna I think we're going

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Speaker 4: to see them together for a very long time. I

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Speaker 4: We get married for forever, and we're really happy for them.

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Speaker 4: They actually had only nine people present at their wedding.

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Speaker 4: They did allude to us when they talked to us

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Speaker 4: an elopement. They did a cute little like wedding chapel celebration.

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Speaker 4: of Bachelor definitely was like, Okay, we're gonna make this

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Speaker 5: It's very cute.

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Speaker 4: They had this idea that they were going to do

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Speaker 3: It feels like their style. It feels so healthy. Their

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Speaker 3: Obviously they get together still on these girls' trips, and

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Speaker 3: they all talk about, you know, how funny it is

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Speaker 3: feels like it goes. I mean, we obviously talk about

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Speaker 3: them not winning the spotlight at least Zach definitely kind

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Speaker 3: the batchel role, which is fine. That says a lot

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Speaker 3: about him as a person that he just didn't like

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Speaker 3: love the attention, and it almost feels like, oh, maybe

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Speaker 3: the recipe for making a lot of these relationships work

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Speaker 3: where you go away from the spotlight, you don't focus

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Speaker 3: then you know, we've seen that with a few now

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Speaker 4: Katie and Zach are kind of definitely went for the

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Speaker 4: right reasons. People, they truly had no intention on like

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Speaker 4: doing anything with fame after the fact, they.

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Speaker 3: Didn't, And it's great and we got to celebrate that.

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Speaker 3: It's something very respectful and something very much appreciated because

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Speaker 3: but I see how their relationship became the priority choice

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Speaker 3: a couple, and so congratulations to them. Into non marriage news,

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Speaker 5: A year is a little exaggerated.

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Speaker 4: We know that she broke up with even what's his name,

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Speaker 5: But thanks for the drama. Yeah, so they are going

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Speaker 4: They just teased a lot of chemistry and a lot

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're just so so sorry and so sad to Vanessa.

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Speaker 4: It's one in four pregnancies, not even one for women,

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Speaker 2: Just feels like a stat we should look into a little.

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Speaker 2: Wow, we're thinking about Vanessa, and I think you said

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Speaker 3: It feels very healthy that now somebody can speak about

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: So Carly moved into the house that she's currently in

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Speaker 5: They're so cute together. His name is Todd.

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Speaker 4: You guys got to follow her on Instagram to see this.

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Speaker 4: They are moving to Lebanon, Tennessee. Ben, how far out

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Speaker 2: I have no idea. I don't think very far.

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Speaker 5: I've never heard of Lebanon.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So if they are all going to live together,

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Speaker 4: really happy for Carly, Like I love seeing her with

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Speaker 4: not like when Carly has her like month of happiness

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great. It's really exciting to see. Congratulations to

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Speaker 3: her on this next new chapter. Well, that's been all

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Speaker 3: the headlines we have for you today. We're gonna also

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Speaker 3: continue to dive in to any Bachelor in Paradise news

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Speaker 3: coming your way. We will not be spoiling you, but

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Speaker 3: we will be revealing what has been then revealed publicly

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Speaker 3: that maybe you just missed in your headlines. But until

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Speaker 3: next time, I've been Ben.

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Speaker 5: I've been Ashley. Bye, guys, love you.

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