1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. This is going to 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: be an awesome one. One of my favorite people. We 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: have the ultimate MythBuster and fact checker with us here today, 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: John Stossel. John, welcome to the podcast. Thank you, thank 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: you for being here. So. I have had a discussion 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: with a lot of people across the state of Michigan lately, 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: one that they don't really like to hear, and that 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: is that I don't believe that this generation is worse 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: off than my parents' generation financially. I see them spending 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: wildly and that seems to be the problem. You've recently 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: done a few articles, you did an episode on this, 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: So what's your take on this? 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: I just did one video. I just do one a week. 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: But yes, it was about that, about all the whining 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: on the internet. I wasn't familiar with all of it, 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: but the younger people and my staff have seen these 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: memes about if it is so much tough for now, 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: I can't afford a home, nobody can afford a home, 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 2: and we looked into it and it's just crap. It's 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: just not true. Almost every category life is easier today. 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: Yes, So I was watching your video and you made 22 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: some really great points you had someone on. Actually, I 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: love the way you go about your videos, so I 24 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: encourage anybody who's listening to check these videos out. I 25 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: love the fact that you stepped out of traditional TV 26 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: and took a chance on this and the way you 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: talked about what is happening with this next generation is 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: something that I've talked to my friends about as our 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: kids are going out and looking for homes. Just a 30 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: couple days ago, one of my friends called and she said, 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: there's just no homes for sale. And I said, my 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: first house had one bathroom, two bedrooms, no basement, just 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: like four rooms in the entire house. But these kids today, 34 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: they want to have the same size house I have 35 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: now to have a four bedroom home or more a 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: huge yard. They want to live out on a big 37 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: piece of property. They can afford the smaller house. 38 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: Right though, there are fewer smaller houses for sale. That's 39 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: true because that's not what most people want these days. 40 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 2: We're not aware that we want more. We expect more. 41 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: We expect cars that don't rust and don't break down 42 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: quickly and have all the gadgets that go with it. 43 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: But people don't calculate that when they compare these things. 44 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: I was struck in the comments to my video we 45 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: release on Twitter and Facebook and YouTube and all these 46 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: different formats, and usually people are pretty positive. And this 47 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: was so obvious to me that I thought people would say, yeah, 48 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: what are these people complaining about? But no, there were 49 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: all these ignorant complaints like you mentioned, Yeah, I can't 50 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: that's true, I can't find a house. It's not true. 51 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: Cars costs much much harder to buy a car now. 52 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: So forth, Well, it was rare for my friends to 53 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: go on a vacation if we were when we were 54 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: young and before we had kids, it took us months 55 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: and years. I mean my husband and I before we 56 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: had kids. We were married for eight years and we 57 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: took two vacations in those eight years, and we saved 58 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: for years to go on those vacations. But I see 59 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: this generation now. My husband's sister is eighteen years younger 60 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: than us, and they go on a vacation every six months, 61 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: and I think, and they're mad if they haven't gone 62 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: on a vacation. It's stunning to me the fact that 63 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: it just is in this entitlement that you go away. 64 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: Or that you eat out. 65 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: And very good point. 66 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm older than you, and the memes that I 67 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: saw started with blaming the baby boomers for everything. And 68 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: I'm one and we never went out to eat twice 69 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: a year and it was a big deal to go 70 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: to our restaurant. 71 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: I remember when we were kids, we would go to 72 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: McDonald's probably once a week, and my dad at the 73 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: time would say for us to go to McDonald's as 74 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: kids was such a big deal, and constantly always tell 75 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: every time we went to McDonald's. It was like, you 76 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: don't understand what a treat this is. We went to 77 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: McDonald's every few months if we were lucky, and at 78 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: the time, you know I had, we had. We were 79 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: certainly weren't eating out to dinner every night, but absolutely 80 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: now it's constantly eating out. Interestingly, eating out has also 81 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: changed because of this climate of everything is it is 82 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: so expensive and stores are buying this prepackaged food, and 83 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: eating out has become different. We're spending more, restaurants seemed 84 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: to be spending less. But it's a whole it's just 85 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: a totally different lifestyle. But you talk about Paul Piticians 86 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: a lot in the videos that you do. I mean, 87 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: I saw it in your Puppy Stores video. I saw 88 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: it in your socialism video. I see it in this 89 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: video as well. Because you talk about the fact that 90 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: politicians can adjust the way people think. I don't think 91 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 1: it was as obvious when I was young. I really 92 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: know what politicians were saying because you were hearing it 93 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: on the nightly news at ten o'clock at night. And 94 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't always watching that when I was young. But 95 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: now kids are constantly pushed with the political rhetoric because 96 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: it's on their phones. 97 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: And we have changed our behavior in that we were 98 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: happy looking at the news at night the end of 99 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: the day, if we looked at all, And now I 100 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: find myself checking all the freaking time, and this makes us. 101 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 2: This hurts us. I mean it's a wonderful thing in 102 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: many ways. It hurts us in other ways because the 103 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: more you watch, the more you look, the more you scared. 104 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: People are of the world. Old people who don't go 105 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: out a lot fear crime more. It's the nature of 106 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: the news business to talk about the problems. It's amazing 107 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: that all these planes take off and land inches from 108 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: each other without crashing. It's not news. It's not nobody's 109 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: out by the back fence, gossiping about who's faithful to 110 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: their spouse. Bad news is snows, and when we consume 111 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: more of it, the world seems worse. 112 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: It reminds me. I was watching your video with you 113 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: had an expert in DEI or a DEI trainer who 114 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: had stepped out of the professor profession because he felt 115 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: like it had gone the wrong direction. But that was 116 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: kind of what he was saying. If you if you 117 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: don't have racism, then you can't have anti racism. And 118 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: so there's almost this perpetuation of something bad to create 119 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: some billion dollar industry to fight that thing that's so bad. 120 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: Everybody wants attention, and you get attention pointing out a problem. 121 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: His point that I've found most interesting was that in 122 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: the places where he was a DEI teacher, he found 123 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: the courses made different races more fearful about speaking to 124 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: each other, They were less likely to engage. 125 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the thing that I thought was the scariest. 126 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: And that's something that I see with my kids. My 127 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: kids are in high school and they've felt like that. 128 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: They've felt like, well, should I not am I bad? 129 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: Am I a problem? Should I not engage with someone 130 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: who's a different race, and it's something I had never 131 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: considered as a kid. I hadn't thought about it, and 132 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: they think about it in a totally different way, because 133 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: I think it is pushed upon them. You are different, 134 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: they are different than you. You may not get along 135 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: because of that, so we have to push you to. 136 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: He even talked about microaggressions, which I always thought was 137 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: a weird thing when it came out years ago. But 138 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: you're so afraid now that you might commit a microaggression 139 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: that you'd rather not talk at all. 140 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: And good was intended, I assume, with waking people up 141 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: to things we might say that might hurt somebody else's feelings. 142 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: But the as all of it, as you get more attention, 143 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: the farther you take it, and that hurts people. 144 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: As I have watched what you've created, though, I was 145 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: looking at it as from the perspective of someone who 146 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: ran for office and thinking you've really done something incredibly 147 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: unique with the program that you've created because you're not 148 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: a partisan. You're not. You're actually super inquisitive in these interviews, 149 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: which I love, and you are You're trying to point 150 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: out really common sense, but you you are letting the 151 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: other person also come to that conclusion. And I think 152 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: for the political world, the strategy behind politics now is 153 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's different than what I thought when I 154 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: got into it. I was very naive about the fact 155 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: that I thought you did it because you wanted to 156 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: do the right thing. And then you get into it 157 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: and there's a million people around you and it's exactly 158 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: what you say. If you have this rhetoric, these people 159 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: will come. And if you have this rhetoric, these people 160 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: will come. And you start to look at it and say, 161 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: what do people actually believe? And then you see young 162 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: people becoming more and more reliant on government because government 163 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: and politicians are about promising things. You've done a phenomenal 164 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: job of pointing this out without being critical, and. 165 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: They're also telling you that life's getting worse. Therefore you 166 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: need government to intervene. One of the best examples for 167 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: me that I learned from is Welfare. I was at 168 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: Princeton at the time it was being formulated, and all 169 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: my professors were saying, it's horrible that in this rich 170 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: country some people are still poor, and we can fix 171 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: this with programs, and that just made total sense to me. 172 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: Then I became a reporter I started covering these programs 173 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: and I saw how, yeah, they give money to people 174 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 2: who really could use it, and that helped them, but 175 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: it also made them feel entitled, and it cut off 176 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 2: their need to figure out how to become self sufficient 177 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: by themselves. And the longer the programs continued, the more 178 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: entitled people got angry if it wasn't just done just 179 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 2: the way they were entitled to it. And if you 180 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: look at the total numbers now Americans, the graph was 181 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: going down. Americans were lifting themselves out of poverty since 182 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: the beginning of the country. It was slow progress, but 183 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: it was progress. And then the War on Poverty began. 184 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: For seven years the progress was even faster, more people 185 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: were lifted above the poverty lone. But since then, for 186 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: the last fifty years, progress stopped poverty rates going up 187 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: and down a little bit, but for as many people 188 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: were helped, as many people were taught to be dependent 189 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: and passive, and that's horrible for people. 190 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: I think the younger generation is now thinking that that's 191 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: what government is there for. Because I go to college 192 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: campuses and I'll sit there and these college age students 193 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: will look at me and say, why should I vote 194 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: for this candidate over this candidate. What is the government 195 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: going to do for me if this candidate is in? 196 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: And so I've started saying, why do you ask that question? 197 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: What are you expecting? Because it's not something I ever 198 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: asked when I was young, and never thought about what 199 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: would what would I get if I vote for you? 200 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: What are you going to hand over to me? But 201 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: there is the mindset now that I need something free. 202 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: I need a reward for voting for you. 203 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: And my wish is that government would say what I 204 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: promise to leave you alone? And yes, we need limits 205 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: at government to protect us from foreign invaders and crime, 206 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: and to run courts and the police, even schools and 207 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: fire departments. But that's local government. That's not the fits. 208 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: And government was once two percent of the economy. It's 209 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: now forty percent, and it keeps growing. 210 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 211 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. It's funny to me government seems 212 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: to do things that are I see so often government 213 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: hands something and then the strings come in. It's when 214 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: you first get it, it seems lovely, it's beautiful, it's 215 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: this amazing gift, and then suddenly they start attaching all 216 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: the strings because they want something back. We gave this 217 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: to you, now we want you to give us something. 218 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 1: This is Michigan, I think is a great example right now. 219 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, we had marijuana pass the marijuana Bill 220 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: when it was a ballot a ballot initiative, and Democrats 221 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: got elected in mass in twenty eighteen because they were 222 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: all about, we want you to have marijuana, we want 223 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: it to be legal. And now we have small businesses 224 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: across the state that have been built on marijuana. And 225 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: I got to tell you, when I ran in twenty 226 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: twenty two, I was like, I don't love this. I'm 227 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: a factory person. I grew up in factories. My dad 228 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: owned a factory. I worked in the factory. It's hard 229 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: to tell if somebody's high. You know, you have a 230 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: whole different level of danger. But this last few weeks, 231 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: my mind has really adjusted on this because I saw 232 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: the Democrats last week come out and say we make 233 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: so much money in taxes on marijuana that we want 234 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: to add a twenty four percent tax on marijuana. We're 235 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: going to get a lot more money from you on marijuana. Now. 236 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: Our small business is one of the thriving small businesses 237 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: that we have in Michigan because we're really we're really 238 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: hurting small businesses. One of the thriving small businesses we have. 239 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: Now, how's it. 240 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: Twenty four percent tax on it. We're going to look 241 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: at the people who are using marijuana and ask them 242 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: to pay our bills, ask them to restore our roads 243 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,359 Speaker 1: and pay for our schools. This is the only industry 244 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: out there, one of the only industries out there, that 245 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: has a very dangerous black market. So we've just created 246 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: a huge crime problem. And we can't foresee that. We 247 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: give you marijuana and then all the strings come. What's 248 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: your thought on that. 249 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: I should have been able to foresee it. It happened 250 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: in California, one of the first states to legalize, but 251 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: they put on so many regulations. It's not just the taxes, 252 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: it's the stupid rules so they can say, oh, you 253 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: can't show it the children, you can't have open windows. 254 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: That the black market is as big as ever, and 255 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: marijuana will cause some problems, but banning it doesn't necessarily 256 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: make that better. It didn't work for alcohol for prohibition, 257 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: and we should realize that with other drugs. 258 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: You have had other programs where you've talked about the 259 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: government coming into ban things. It doesn't seem like you're 260 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: a fan of banning things. And I find it interesting 261 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: the way you break it down. And that's one of 262 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: the things that you recently came out and did a 263 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: video on this is why we did this, This is 264 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: how I stepped out of TV and I started this program. 265 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: But you went into the detail of the facts that 266 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: the fact checking that you go through, and that's the 267 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: team that you have, which is I think very critical 268 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: in this world right now where a podcast comes out 269 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: every day and it's someone's opinion and it feels very 270 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: much like fact, but there's not the behind the scenes 271 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: that goes into it like your show you did. You 272 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: recently did this show on puppy stores, and it was 273 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: to me it was very valuable because my family absolutely 274 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: loves dogs. We love to go out and buy dogs. 275 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: There are no dog puppy stores in my town. They 276 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: have all been run out of town. There's one left 277 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: in grund Rapids. But I had been under this impression 278 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: that these dog these puppy stores had puppy mills attached. 279 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: And you showed the pictures, which I loved of that 280 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: scared me to death, and I went, oh my gosh, yeah, 281 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: I can't get a dog at a dog store. I 282 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: have to go to a breeder. So I went to 283 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: this breeder. I know nothing about this breeder. I got 284 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: the most reject dog you could possibly have. He's got 285 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: skin infections, he's got all kinds of health disorders. Would 286 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: he have been that way if I'd got him from 287 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: a puppy store, I don't know. But you did a 288 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: great job of breaking down. Really, this is government intervention 289 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: that doesn't need to be there. 290 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 2: And don't you call them pet stores. You call them 291 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: puppy stores. I mean they sell cats and rabbits are 292 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: now banned too. Eight states I didn't know that your 293 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: state was one of them have banned ball pet stores 294 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: from selling dogs, cats and rabbits because of the puppy 295 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: mill problem. But as with drugs or alcohol, ambition creates 296 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: new problems. And you're supposed to only buy from a 297 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: reliable breeder. But how do you know who that is. 298 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: You look at the internet and they all say they're 299 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: a reliable breeder. At least the pet store in your town. 300 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,719 Speaker 2: They had to maintain a reputation, and if they sold 301 00:17:54,920 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: sick dogs from a puppy mill that cruelly imbred dogs people. 302 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: Word would spread. Now, thanks to ratings on the internet, 303 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 2: word spreads even faster. But the humane societies, which are 304 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: much richer than I thought they were. They have hundreds 305 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 2: of millions of dollars and they pay themselves well and 306 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: spend very little running shelters. They've got this big ban stores, 307 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: ban pet store campaign and they're winning. 308 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's something that people don't realize either. 309 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: These organizations. They feel good, you're rescuing a dog. You 310 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: feel like you've done something amazing, and they put this 311 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: rhetoric out there, and they have so much money that 312 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: they then have lobbyists and they can buy their message 313 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: through the government as well. They go to legislators and 314 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: they say, you can't allow this. You've got you don't 315 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 1: understand how this is hurting the dogs, these poor dogs 316 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: that'll never find a home because you have allowed these 317 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: people to sell new dogs. And there's this hole behind 318 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: the scenes nobody really knows about. 319 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: Maybe they know, but they don't think about it. I mean, 320 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: in the case of the puppy mill campaigns, they also 321 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: get people to stand on the street holding signs stop 322 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: abusing puppies, bad bed stores, and they make contributions to 323 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: politicians and that gets results. That's the way you do 324 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 2: things in politics. And I mean, I disagree with your 325 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 2: comment about politics a little bit and that I think 326 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: most people who go into it want to do good. 327 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: It's the process that five years later turns them into opportunists, 328 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: because to get anything done you have to make deals. 329 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: And I find and in government, the good people don't 330 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: get paid more. You're barely allowed to give them a raise. 331 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: The horrible person who sleeps at the desk next you 332 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: can't be fired because of civil service rules. This soon 333 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: sucks the initiative out of you, and government becomes what 334 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: it is. Right. 335 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: The bureaucracy that is involved with that, they can stay 336 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: there forever, and they can make more money than the 337 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: elected officials, and they have a lot of power. And 338 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: then you if you have term limits, you have somebody 339 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: that doesn't know the system and they come in and 340 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 1: they're taken over by the bureaucracy. I completely agree with you. 341 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: We just had I was just in the Upper Peninsula 342 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: of Michigan a couple of weeks ago, and they were 343 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: telling us we have a terrible bear problem. Now I 344 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: live in the Lower Peninsula. We don't have a terrible 345 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: bear problem. I don't think about it. It doesn't affect me. 346 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: In fact, a few years ago they had a terrible 347 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: wolf problem, and the Lower Peninsula had a campaign saying 348 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: we could no longer shoot wolves in the state of Michigan. 349 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: And it was so it was so impactful it hurt. 350 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you would watch these tiny puppy wolves on TV. 351 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: How could you shoot this wolf? These people want to 352 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: shoot wolves. We've got to stop it. Well, they were effective. 353 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: We put a ballot initiative through saying that you couldn't 354 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: kill the wolves in Michigan anymore. The people in the 355 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: Upper Peninsula who actually deal with the wolves, we don't 356 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: see them. They said, our livestock is being ripped apart. 357 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: Now they can't. They told us a couple weeks ago, 358 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: we can't hunt deer anymore because the bear are all 359 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: taking the deer right out of the fields. You can 360 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: watch them take the deer right out of the fields. 361 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, these are the things that 362 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: it's very easy for a politician to come to me 363 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: and say, we can't give out any more bear tags. 364 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: We don't have enough bear whereas I don't live where 365 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: the bear are. I have no idea what the bear 366 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: are doing, which. 367 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: Is why people say local government is better. But that's 368 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: not always true either. 369 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: Right, Well, local government can also. I mean, this is 370 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: why I go back to when the next generation says 371 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: to me, what is the government going to do for me? 372 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: Why do you want so much government? Why are you 373 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: looking for more government? What has happened in that generation 374 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: that they're so desperate for more government? 375 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: They've been brainwashed by schools. I don't know, it's upsetting 376 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: to hear that when you speak, that's what the students ask. 377 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: They don't ask me that, but maybe that's because they 378 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: know I'm a libertarian and I'm making fewer speeches lately 379 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: because I don't need the money anymore. But they no longer. 380 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: I don't remember them asking that. Man. That's sad that 381 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,239 Speaker 2: that's what they ask you. 382 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: I think it's just this new motivation, as you see 383 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: the mom Donnis of the world saying, look, if you come, 384 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: we'll give you free We'll give you free transportation, we'll 385 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: give you free groceries, will give you everything free. I mean, 386 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: what is your take? What's happened in New York. 387 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: All your problems and my kids are for him. It's 388 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 2: so upsetting to me. Part of it's because he's just 389 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 2: a reasonable guy as opposed to these creepy alternatives that 390 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: we have had. He seems like one, like a nice 391 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: guy who cares about people, wants to make things better. 392 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 2: But it's because of their vast ignorance from bad schools, 393 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: I guess. Because the basic question should be where has 394 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: socialism ever worked in what country and what state? Anywhere? 395 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: And people say Scandinavia, but they are not socialists. Sweden 396 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: went socialists and it was such a disaster they pulled 397 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: it back. They're capitalist countries. That Danish Prime minister even 398 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 2: came to Harvard to shout, we are not a socialist economy. 399 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: It's never worked at rex Lives wherever it's been trying, 400 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: and yet these politicians keep promising it. 401 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: They say it's democratic socialism, it's different, which. 402 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 2: Just means you vote for the guy. But once in power, 403 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: socialism means we control the means of production, we run things, 404 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: and that inevitably becomes oppression and poverty. 405 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: That's a statement that maum Donnie has made. He wants 406 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: to seize the means of production. He clearly openly said that, 407 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: and people thought that that was great because he was 408 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: going to come in and help to make sure prices 409 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: are lower. It would be helpful to the people in 410 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: New York. And he'll take from the billionaires because they 411 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't be allowed to have that kind of money. 412 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: Anyway, it sounds good. Government will run it and they're 413 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 2: not looking to make a big profit, so it'll be better. 414 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: And I mean two answers to that. One is think 415 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: the Department of Motor Vehicles. That's the experience you have 416 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: in government stores again, because the guy who's a really 417 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: good worker gets paid no more than the slacker next 418 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: to him. And maybe you keep trying for a year, 419 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: but after five years, when nobody could be fired, you 420 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 2: stop trying and the services just go downhill. And the 421 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: second point I've now forgotten, So never. 422 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: Mind, let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next 423 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: on the Tutor Dixon podcast. Well, I've also said to 424 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: young people who say, well, we want free public transportation, 425 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: I always tell them, you know, even if you're just 426 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: paying a small amount for public transportation, you have a 427 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: different level of respect for that. Studies show this. They've 428 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: done psychological studies. If you get something for free, do 429 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: you respect it as much as if you just pay 430 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: fifty cents for it? Even if you just pay a 431 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: small amount, why do you want it to be free 432 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: if you can afford it. It's a very hard message 433 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: to get through to this generation. 434 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 2: Well, that's one I think is less evil because the 435 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: city's already running buses and it barely makes money on them, 436 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 2: and it costs money to collect the fares and police 437 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: the fair cheaters. If that were free, if they would 438 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: save money elsewhere, it wouldn't be so terrible. But I 439 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: now remember my second point. The other problem is that 440 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 2: people think there's a fixed amount of money and if 441 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos has a billion dollars, that we have a 442 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: billion dollars less. But it doesn't work that way. The 443 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: only way Bezos at Amazon got rich was to offer 444 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: us something we like better than the alternatives, and in 445 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: fact Amazon lowered prices so much that it even affected 446 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: the consumer Price index. He saved us money while making 447 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: billions for himself. It's hard to get your brain around 448 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: that that these greedy capitalists perform a service to us 449 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: when they sell us all this stuff. 450 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: But they do, and I mean States fight over who's 451 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: going to get the next Amazon center because they know 452 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: that they're going to have tons of jobs that too. 453 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: It is. It is always interesting for me to see 454 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: people mad at the billionaires because they are the job creators. 455 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: They are actually putting wealth into the country. But there's 456 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: a narrative that goes the other direction. If we watch 457 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: your show, we would know that that is not the 458 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: case that we would actually learn the facts. So I 459 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: appreciate what you do. Please tell the audience where they 460 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: can watch your show and listen to your show. 461 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: YouTube is the best. Just type in John Sassel or 462 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 2: just google Mayn you'll find it. 463 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: That's right. 464 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 2: If you sign up, we'll just send you an email 465 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: once a week. We won't sell your name, and we'll 466 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 2: give you the Vigo by email. 467 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: Wonderful. Thank you so much, John Stossel, thank you for 468 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: coming on the podcast today, Thanks for having me absolutely 469 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: and thank you all for listening to the podcast. You 470 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: can get this one on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts 471 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts, and you can always 472 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: watch on Rumble or YouTube at Tutor Dixon and join 473 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: us next time. Have a blessed day.