WEBVTT - Shaun Weiss Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>H I don't see you guys for a week now,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a there's a a Danielle and Ryder's eye

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<v Speaker 1>hole in my I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know right, I've missed you. Howf you goes been? What

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<v Speaker 2>did you?

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<v Speaker 3>Did?

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<v Speaker 2>You cry every day without me? Okay? No, no, no, okay?

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<v Speaker 2>But what have you been up to? H? Sweet? Sweet?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've been podcast walk his dog, my dog.

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<v Speaker 4>He's had conversations with his wife where the asked me

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<v Speaker 4>to do I talk my wife a lot?

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<v Speaker 1>No, We're we're currently taking multiple bids for some serious

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<v Speaker 1>construction at our house, so we're getting ready for craziness.

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<v Speaker 2>How'd the closet reno go?

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<v Speaker 4>It's awesome?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, you know, we've got this big, big, huge,

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<v Speaker 1>walking kind of kind of situation.

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<v Speaker 2>You get to go shopping for what?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, No, it's just the clothes that I do

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<v Speaker 1>have now aren't in a giant pile on the floor.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the same clothes from Boybys World, like something for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I stick with them.

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<v Speaker 1>The I got rid of them when they literally no

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<v Speaker 1>no longer hold the shape of clothing.

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<v Speaker 4>That's when I get rid of them.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that's when it's too much? Yeah, right, or

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<v Speaker 2>what have you been up to?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I don't know. We went to nineties cons.

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<v Speaker 6>It was really good. It was really it was actually

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<v Speaker 6>like a different crew. There was like the Scream people

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<v Speaker 6>and some nine o two one oho folks. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I'd never met I mean I'd met Brian Austin Green,

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<v Speaker 6>but I never really talked to him, and he's like

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<v Speaker 6>a great guy, and so Leigh Moonfry, who I hadn't

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<v Speaker 6>seen for years.

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<v Speaker 4>It was great.

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<v Speaker 6>It was such a good time, Like it was actually

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<v Speaker 6>not not expected. I was like, oh, we're doing nineties

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<v Speaker 6>con again, it's gonna at this at the point it's

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<v Speaker 6>going to be winding down and not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>And instead the.

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<v Speaker 1>Crowd was huge.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like, wow, people really want time travel.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we ave the nineties. It's so weird, Like it

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<v Speaker 4>was a lot of fun. It was. It was a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of fun, huge crowds. Like yeah, writer said.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that was weird about this year was we

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<v Speaker 1>were on the floor so much that I almost didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see anybody else, Like it was never in the green room.

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<v Speaker 4>With everybody where we normally hang out and kind of talk.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, my dad was there and oh, Okay, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all because of the podcast, so tons of people

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<v Speaker 1>coming up talking about the podcast like how much they

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. And my dad was there and people were going,

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<v Speaker 1>is that the captain? Can I take a picture with

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<v Speaker 1>the captain? So my dad was taking pictures with people.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was so happy sitting there taking pictures and

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<v Speaker 1>people were calling the captain.

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<v Speaker 4>He loved it. So my flight home I was a

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<v Speaker 4>complete disaster, wasn't.

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<v Speaker 6>We got on one plane, had to get off and

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<v Speaker 6>you know, get on another plane, change whatever, Like I

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<v Speaker 6>did all the things wrong. Will, like I know you

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<v Speaker 6>always go like to work flight and that's why you

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<v Speaker 6>were flying out a box, right, Okay, So I didn't

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<v Speaker 6>get home till like four in the morning.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a nightmare, except it was me and the

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<v Speaker 4>Lawrence brothers. Yeah, the best time. It was somebody like

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 6>Talked to Joe like forever, like since we were teenagers basically,

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<v Speaker 6>and for whatever reason, the three of us just bonded

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<v Speaker 6>and were laughing and telling stories and I.

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<v Speaker 4>Was like, oh, I'm the fourth Lawrence brother I felt.

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<v Speaker 6>So it was like, it's okay, it's at an airport

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<v Speaker 6>where like having a tran and yet every and what

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<v Speaker 6>the best part is like people would recognize one of

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<v Speaker 6>us and not the others, so they'd be like they'd

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<v Speaker 6>come up to me and be like hey, in the

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<v Speaker 6>hand of the camera to Matt and be like take

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<v Speaker 6>a picture, or they just recognized Joe and hand camera

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<v Speaker 6>to me, but like can you take a bit?

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<v Speaker 4>And we're like what that was? Like, yeah, so was

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<v Speaker 4>this in force? It was this in Bradley. Were you

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<v Speaker 4>at the airport in Hartford? Is this week? Then we

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<v Speaker 4>got stuck in Dallas, So we were stuck in Dallas

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<v Speaker 4>for it worth for like you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, three hours or whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm telling you, like, I you know, I've obviously

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<v Speaker 6>seen Matt a bunch, but I haven't hung out with

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<v Speaker 6>Andy and Joey and like they're great, you know. And

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<v Speaker 6>also just like talking to Joey about being a dad,

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<v Speaker 6>like it's a very different like we just haven't caught

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<v Speaker 6>up and it was so fun and I yeah, I

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<v Speaker 6>just I love those guys and like, yeah, they're genuinely

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<v Speaker 6>friendly to everybody around them, Like they don't stop, like

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<v Speaker 6>they just are like and it's so fun to be

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<v Speaker 6>part of that bubble as you're like going through airports

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<v Speaker 6>and like running into people because everybody loves them and

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<v Speaker 6>they're so.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind to everybody. Yes, it was really fun. It was

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<v Speaker 4>really good time.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm glad you guys had a good time. I'm sad

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<v Speaker 7>that I missed it. I was directing. I was doing

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<v Speaker 7>the other thing that I love. I was directing a

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<v Speaker 7>TV show for Disney Channel called How We Became the

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<v Speaker 7>Biggest Band. It was so much fun. But I did

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<v Speaker 7>miss you guys. I had a little bit of fomo.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys did a fun panel.

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<v Speaker 7>At nineties Cone, right, it was like a ninetyggh was.

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<v Speaker 4>That it was good. It was good.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of those things so where it was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I prefer personally panels where you just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of you talk for five minutes and you open it

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<v Speaker 1>up to questions.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and we did the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>We spoke for forty minutes and then we had five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes left for questions.

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<v Speaker 4>We got two questions in and we went. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You're we're on the panel and it's myself and Rider

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<v Speaker 1>and Solet and Juliel.

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<v Speaker 8>Fun.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was it was just kind of fun to

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<v Speaker 1>be with everybody and talk about different experiences, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was a really fun weekend and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I get to go home that Mike exactly claim in Hartford,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a great place.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice, Danielle. Did you get to do like, are there

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<v Speaker 4>musical insequences in the I.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to shoot a whole music video?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Cool?

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<v Speaker 5>Was it?

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<v Speaker 2>It was so much fun. It was truly so incredible.

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<v Speaker 7>So the first week I was there, I was a

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<v Speaker 7>little like gobsmacked by how fast it moves, because it

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<v Speaker 7>moves real.

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<v Speaker 2>Fast, as in so fast.

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<v Speaker 7>You only have two hours of rehearsal on the first day,

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<v Speaker 7>and you do a producer's run through on the first

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<v Speaker 7>day with two hours as wow, because they for three days,

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<v Speaker 7>so they shoot Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>So Monday morning, no audience.

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<v Speaker 7>Monday morning you do a production meeting, a table read,

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<v Speaker 7>then the kids go to school and then you start

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<v Speaker 7>rehearsal at noon and you do rehearsal until two and

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<v Speaker 7>then you do a two thirty pm.

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<v Speaker 4>Run through and ea, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 7>And then on day two you do a network run

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<v Speaker 7>through and that day you only have three hours of rehearsal.

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<v Speaker 7>So if the script doesn't change much between Monday and Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 7>three hours on Tuesday you're like, what are we gonna

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<v Speaker 7>do with all this time?

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<v Speaker 2>Because does it changed?

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<v Speaker 4>There's a script kind of lockdown.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, my first week it didn't, So I came in

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<v Speaker 7>like Rare and I saw my first day, I was

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<v Speaker 7>like everyone had warm me, like the show moves really fast.

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<v Speaker 7>And then on my first day I was like I

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<v Speaker 7>was not prepared. So then the next day I came

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<v Speaker 7>in like Rare in Togo and we ended up feeling

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<v Speaker 7>like we had so much time because the script didn't

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<v Speaker 7>change much. But then my second week, the script changed

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<v Speaker 7>a lot, so much so that we didn't do.

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<v Speaker 2>A producer run through on Monday.

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<v Speaker 7>So we did a combo producer network run through on

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<v Speaker 7>Tuesday with a brand new script with only three hours

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<v Speaker 7>of rehearse.

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<v Speaker 2>God, you're shooting the next day, no.

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<v Speaker 6>Closers run through because the table read, they were like,

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<v Speaker 6>we're just going to be working on We're just.

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<v Speaker 7>Going to be working all day and there's no point

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<v Speaker 7>in putting something on its feet that that we know

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<v Speaker 7>is probably going to change. So we had you know

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<v Speaker 7>so so and then you're shooting the next day. It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 7>you're shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting adjutve you just explaining what's happening, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>imagining the change, so I get oh geez.

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<v Speaker 4>And so there are they new songs, like they have

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<v Speaker 4>original songs.

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<v Speaker 2>All the originals, and.

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<v Speaker 4>They've recorded them ahead of the week, and then.

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<v Speaker 7>You like, shoot yes, And they also have to learn choreography,

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<v Speaker 7>like that's how much time I have for rehearsal and

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<v Speaker 7>they're learning choreography in that time.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, can we give the girls twenty minutes to go

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<v Speaker 2>learn for full dance? Numbord's like yes, I think we

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<v Speaker 2>can do that. We have no we have no other choice.

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<v Speaker 4>These kids are working so hardly.

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<v Speaker 2>They are working their butts off.

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<v Speaker 7>But let me tell you the only reason that schedule

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<v Speaker 7>is at all able to work is because they are

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<v Speaker 7>so gosh darn talented and they are on their lines

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<v Speaker 7>and they are taking risks and having fun and it's

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<v Speaker 7>just beautiful. Like on my third week, because then you know,

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<v Speaker 7>my third week, I'm like, I'm in it. I know

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<v Speaker 7>exactly what we're doing. Everybody's in a nice groove. And

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<v Speaker 7>one of the girls put on a performance for us.

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<v Speaker 7>She had to play this totally different character and she

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<v Speaker 7>just came out and she had so much confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>And just nailed it, nailed everything.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a big set, lots of crazy blocking where she's

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<v Speaker 7>really vamping it up as this totally out of the

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<v Speaker 7>box character.

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<v Speaker 2>And I literally cried. I literally I cried. I cried

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<v Speaker 2>watching it.

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, I'm so proud of them. I'm so

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<v Speaker 7>proud of them, Like what they are doing is amazing,

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<v Speaker 7>and it was just incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>Weeks is the show about like a girl group? Are they?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it one of those things where it's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>The Monkeys, where it's like they do it's a show,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they also are a band that's together.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that thing?

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<v Speaker 7>It's a show called How We Became the Biggest Band,

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<v Speaker 7>and it takes place in two time settings, a current

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<v Speaker 7>day which is the future, where they're already the biggest

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<v Speaker 7>band and they're eighteen years old and they're telling you

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<v Speaker 7>how we got here. Most of the show then takes

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<v Speaker 7>place in flashbacks showing you how they met correct, okay,

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<v Speaker 7>how I met your mother?

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<v Speaker 2>With a with a with a band?

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<v Speaker 4>All the same cast or are there an adult version

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<v Speaker 4>and a younger.

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<v Speaker 7>The same cast, which is one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 7>it moves so fast.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no B storyline. The B storyline is them in.

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<v Speaker 4>The future show.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, there's no as of right now, there's no

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<v Speaker 7>adults on the show. It's just four core cast members

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<v Speaker 7>that are all miners, and so you're dealing with school schedules,

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<v Speaker 7>and you know, all of the they also are playing

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<v Speaker 7>instruments and like, you know, one of them is like

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<v Speaker 7>learning guitar, so she's in music class. Diane or In

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<v Speaker 7>is writing like half the songs. The music is incredible.

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<v Speaker 7>It gets stuck in your head. We had to listen

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<v Speaker 7>to it dozens of times. I wasn't sick of any

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<v Speaker 7>of it, which is really saying something. It was just

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<v Speaker 7>really great.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really hardly it.

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<v Speaker 1>Works because Disney does not is not really known for

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<v Speaker 1>their musicals, especially if that take place in high school.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's usually they don't do well.

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<v Speaker 4>The old flops with Disney and musical those never work.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on, Welcome to Pond Meets World. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel Fishal, I'm righter strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah oh if it, I'm sorry, audition, We're officially done.

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<v Speaker 8>Damn it.

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<v Speaker 7>It's been quite some time since the days of the

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<v Speaker 7>Death Chair, the rotating season one child guest star who

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<v Speaker 7>changed week to week but mostly pulled from the movie

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<v Speaker 7>The Sandlot, and though we became used to seeing a

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<v Speaker 7>familiar young face thrown into the mix, whether it's Marty

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<v Speaker 7>Yorke as a best friend, Arianna Richards in a very

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<v Speaker 7>special episode, or Andrew Keegan in Orlando, the show has

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<v Speaker 7>since left the young stunt casting behind.

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<v Speaker 2>To focus on us, the core cast of the show.

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<v Speaker 7>So when we did have a new guest star firmly

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<v Speaker 7>set in our age bracket, especially one from a ton

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<v Speaker 7>of hit movies and TV shows, it was a big deal,

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<v Speaker 7>and this week's guest is a prime example. He rose

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<v Speaker 7>to fame as the comedic goalie in The Mighty Ducks,

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<v Speaker 7>Greg Goldberg, an iconic role he'd revisit for an entire franchise,

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<v Speaker 7>but it was another Disney movie he'd star in, Heavyweights.

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<v Speaker 2>That many of us hold nearest and.

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<v Speaker 7>Dearest to our hearts. A bit of a child prodigy

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<v Speaker 7>when it came to making people laugh, he began his

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<v Speaker 7>career in one of the coolest places ever, Pee Wee's Playhouse,

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<v Speaker 7>and he went on to appear on shows like Sabrina,

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<v Speaker 7>Freaks and Geeks, The King of Queen's and Yes, Boy

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<v Speaker 7>Meets World, where he played Louis a new college friend

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<v Speaker 7>that appeared in two season six episodes, and beyond the

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<v Speaker 7>hilarious work he's done on screen, he has also become

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<v Speaker 7>an inspiration for those dealing with addiction, honest and open

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<v Speaker 7>about his own struggles, still using humor to cope and

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<v Speaker 7>connect with those online looking for motivation. So this week

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<v Speaker 7>on Podmets World, let's get into the flying V for

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<v Speaker 7>Sean Weiss.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at your beautiful background.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that gonna be okay? For the thing?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>You look great? Where are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you? I'm in Georgia. I got to Georgia like

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<v Speaker 3>two months ago. I moved here. Wow.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there are trees in Georgia.

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<v Speaker 3>Breathing fresh air is like I didn't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't right I'm doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Started, Yeah, it's you know, I was.

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<v Speaker 5>I was really kind of emotional, somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>I was kind of emotional leaving la you know.

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<v Speaker 5>I just always pictured myself living there, and from the

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<v Speaker 5>moment I got there, I was in love with that place.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was a little hard to go. But I

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<v Speaker 3>love it here. I's I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for you. Thank you so much for doing this.

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<v Speaker 7>It's so good to see you. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 7>for doing this. We want to start with where it

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<v Speaker 7>all began for you. I know that you were an

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<v Speaker 7>East Coast kid. You were out of New Jersey. So

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<v Speaker 7>how did you convince your parents to start driving you

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<v Speaker 7>to the city for auditions.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, honestly, it was my it was my mom's idea, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>but it wasn't like my mom got me into it

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<v Speaker 5>and forced me to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>She got me into it, and then once I started,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I.

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<v Speaker 5>Was hooked with the whole process of going on auditions

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<v Speaker 5>and I got to skip school and stuff. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>was a very precocious kid, and I had older step

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<v Speaker 5>brothers and stepsisters. They were in like years older, and

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<v Speaker 5>they would get me to do crazy things like walk

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<v Speaker 5>up to adults and give them the middle finger, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>ask adults how their sex life is. When I was yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I was walking around saying these things that adults had

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<v Speaker 5>made me say. And I guess I looked like I

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<v Speaker 5>was sharp, right, and they could in show business, So

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<v Speaker 5>it was you know, my mom took me to see

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<v Speaker 5>a manager at one of these cattle calls and she

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<v Speaker 5>just liked me, and very instantly I started doing commercials

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<v Speaker 5>and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, and I remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember that circuit because we were on the

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<v Speaker 1>same circuit back in the day. He was always seeing

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<v Speaker 1>each other at auditions and you're just you're always with

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<v Speaker 1>the same twenty five kids everywhere you go.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you were one of the guys I used to

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<v Speaker 5>see all the time. And then we did that show together.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, True Blue.

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<v Speaker 5>Well True Blue. I had to explain it to my fiance.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, it was kind of like a er

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<v Speaker 5>but there was.

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<v Speaker 3>A truck invall.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, let's talk about that because we'll mentioned that you

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<v Speaker 7>guys worked together. He actually said you were like his

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<v Speaker 7>very first actor friend.

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<v Speaker 4>My onset buddy, my first onset buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, well you were. I think that was one

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<v Speaker 3>of my first like TV jobs me too.

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<v Speaker 4>It was my first ever TV show.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude. You were so nice. And here was the thing

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<v Speaker 3>we were.

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<v Speaker 5>We shot this thing out on top of a cliff, yep,

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<v Speaker 5>and it was very dangerous, right and not freezing.

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<v Speaker 4>It was cold. Yeah, it was ice cold.

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<v Speaker 5>You couldn't feel your toes and if we moved in

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<v Speaker 5>the wrong direction, it was like.

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<v Speaker 9>Exactly, hey, kids, you're fine, just walk up to the

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<v Speaker 9>edge of this cliff and it don't But we're going

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<v Speaker 9>to pay you to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I remember that day.

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<v Speaker 5>Oddly enough, I remember that day better than I do

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<v Speaker 5>stuff that happened two weeks ago. But I remember you

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<v Speaker 5>were like very protective of me and very like really

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<v Speaker 5>helping me not fall off that cliff, and so I

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<v Speaker 5>got I found out kind of the guy you were

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<v Speaker 5>very early, and meeting up with you years later, you

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<v Speaker 5>really never changed and I appreciated that well.

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<v Speaker 4>I you were my first onset friend. We had a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember it being freezing cold, and then one scene

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<v Speaker 1>we have to cross a river and I hear splash

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<v Speaker 1>and I look behind me and you had fallen into

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<v Speaker 1>the river like all like up to your neck, and

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<v Speaker 1>they pulled pulled you out, and we're like trying. Everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>warming you up, and the putting in front of heaters,

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<v Speaker 1>and then after that like all right, great, get on

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<v Speaker 1>the edge of the cliff, and it was just it

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<v Speaker 1>was and then they remember we shot. They they brought

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<v Speaker 1>us to that stage and they built the cave and

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<v Speaker 1>it was all this smoke they were pumping in and

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<v Speaker 1>all this peat.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just I would be blowing my nose for

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<v Speaker 4>weeks with just all this black coming out like it

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<v Speaker 4>was bad.

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<v Speaker 1>This is New York in the eighties where they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>just do it, kid, just doing fine. They handed me

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<v Speaker 1>at one point, with no prep whatsoever, they handed me

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<v Speaker 1>a fully loaded AK forty seven.

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<v Speaker 4>Who were you guys playing?

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<v Speaker 3>Were you criminals this story? Did you remember?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>It was like the drug dealer that was after us

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<v Speaker 5>because we found his stash and stash so we found

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<v Speaker 5>was like an AK forty seven.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh so that's the thing is we find that.

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<v Speaker 1>We leave our school field trip at the Cloisters and

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<v Speaker 1>we go down. Robert Mitcham's son Chris Mitcham plays the

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<v Speaker 1>bad guy, and we find this cave and I find

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<v Speaker 1>an AK forty seven and I go hey, and I

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<v Speaker 1>spray the cave and there's a.

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<v Speaker 4>Huge cave in which blocks him off.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I then get beaten up and thrown off the cliff

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<v Speaker 1>by the drug dealer and still no, I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>fall like thirty feet down.

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<v Speaker 4>They put makeup on me.

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<v Speaker 1>My head's broken open all stuff, and so truck one,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what the show used to be called, shows up,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all these really good looking actors. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>Grant Show from Melrose Place before he's on Melrose Place

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<v Speaker 1>and Ali Walker and all these people like repelling down

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<v Speaker 1>to get me and then they've got to go bury

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<v Speaker 1>dig him out of the cave.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like it was intense, man.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen no stunt doubles anywhere for the first time seeing

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<v Speaker 5>a squid go off right next to my head and

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<v Speaker 5>be like, I probably shouldn't get too close to that thing.

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<v Speaker 7>Both of you were both such talented young comedians. So

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<v Speaker 7>despite whatever crazy circumstances, I bet this movie is incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to watch it now?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's on It's on YouTube. It's an episode called

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<v Speaker 4>Caves True Blue.

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<v Speaker 5>Hell yeah, my evening entertainment.

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<v Speaker 7>To write that down, it would be difficult to beat

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<v Speaker 7>you for best first job. You were a recurring character

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<v Speaker 7>on Pee Wee's Playhouse, So I mean you shared the

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<v Speaker 7>screen with the legendary Paul Rubins. You probably sat on

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<v Speaker 7>cherry right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 7>So what I mean it must have been like a

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<v Speaker 7>dream like experience. What are some of the most unreal

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<v Speaker 7>stories from set?

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<v Speaker 5>It was. I mean, they really did a good job

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<v Speaker 5>to create like a very fun, uh kid like atmosphere

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<v Speaker 5>for us when we were on set, and I remember

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<v Speaker 5>talking to, uh, the genie Phil Hartman.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, wasn't that Phil?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god? Was that Phil Hartman?

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<v Speaker 4>That was Phil Hartman?

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<v Speaker 1>Was the original genie on on Pee's Playhouse.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm almost I don't know if that was the guy.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I have to check down now, I have

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<v Speaker 5>to check because that was Phil Hartman. Then I've got

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<v Speaker 5>some crazy Phil Hartman memories. But what I mean, I

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<v Speaker 5>remember just seeing the movie Pee's Big Adventure.

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<v Speaker 3>Movie at that age, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was it, John Peck.

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<v Speaker 5>John Paragot came so Phil did it like first, and

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<v Speaker 5>then that guy came in.

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<v Speaker 3>And did like.

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<v Speaker 5>But anyway, I saw Peey's Big Adventure and found out

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<v Speaker 5>I had an audition for this show. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>sure that I really understood the difference between like real.

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<v Speaker 3>Life and movies.

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<v Speaker 4>So going on to.

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<v Speaker 5>Pee Wee's, going on to the set there, it was

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<v Speaker 5>really mind blowing. But what I do remember is I

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<v Speaker 5>fell in love with like the trick of movie making.

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<v Speaker 5>When I found out there was a guy sitting inside Cherry,

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<v Speaker 5>I was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, this is so cool, and I really I really.

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<v Speaker 5>Got enamored with that whole thing of like you know,

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<v Speaker 5>making a camera tricks, you know what I mean, definitely

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<v Speaker 5>one of the aspects that also you know, made me

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<v Speaker 5>fall in love with the whole movie making things.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was that was a crazy experience.

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<v Speaker 5>One another memory that stands out one hundred percent is

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<v Speaker 5>uh Laurence fishburn Lawrence Fishburne.

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<v Speaker 3>Used to show us his tongue.

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<v Speaker 5>And he had some kind of crazy thing where his

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<v Speaker 5>tongue it looks like a lizard of what It's a

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<v Speaker 5>big triangle with like wedges, and we were.

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<v Speaker 3>Thinking of that.

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<v Speaker 5>He'd be like, check this out, and he'd go and

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<v Speaker 5>the thing would come out to hear and wave around.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 6>Definitely something never party trick was not on my card today.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, stuck out for sure. If I ever meet him,

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<v Speaker 5>you see him and I haven't seen him since, but

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<v Speaker 5>if I ever see him again.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd be like, I have a memory. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>need to make sure correct.

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<v Speaker 4>That I didn't just dream this.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing too, what of my mind's just playing tricks.

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<v Speaker 4>On me and has a totally normal tongue.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question was was there did did Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Rubens break character.

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<v Speaker 4>On the set or was he always Peek. He was

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<v Speaker 4>always pee Wee, right, he was.

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<v Speaker 5>Always Peee, but a very quick story to kind of

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<v Speaker 5>give you an idea of the kind of guy he was.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got the audition and it's it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Tomorrow, and I stayed up all night memorizing my five lines,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm gonna do a scene with pee.

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<v Speaker 3>Wee the next day.

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<v Speaker 5>My mom schleps me into New York, like a three

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<v Speaker 5>hour trip, and there's all the waiting, and you know,

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:54.560
<v Speaker 5>it's five hours before I'm in a room with the guy,

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<v Speaker 5>and mind Joe only sticks. So I get into the

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<v Speaker 5>room and uh, Paul there, but he's not in character.

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:06.680
<v Speaker 3>He's just Paul Rubens and he's got a beard and.

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<v Speaker 5>He has glasses, and I just I didn't believe it

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<v Speaker 5>was him. And so they kept telling me that's Paul,

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 5>and I'm like, listen, I know him only six right, I.

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:20.800
<v Speaker 4>Know pee Wee. When I see pee Wee, that ain't

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<v Speaker 4>pee Wee.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I gave them such a hard time because

0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:27.440
<v Speaker 5>I was this kind of kid, you know. And so

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<v Speaker 5>Paul left the room for about half hour however.

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<v Speaker 3>Long, and transformed himself into Pewee.

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<v Speaker 5>Everything costume and came back into the room as Peeley

0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:47.400
<v Speaker 5>so that I could the audition, and I told him,

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<v Speaker 5>I said, Peeley, I just got to let you know

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.160
<v Speaker 5>before you got here, there was some guy and he's

0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:55.600
<v Speaker 5>telling everybody that he was you.

0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.959
<v Speaker 3>And Paul said, yeah, that was Paul. He does that

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<v Speaker 3>to everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, Yeah he says that to people.

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>That's oh God, make me feel comfortable.

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 2>I love that story.

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:18.639
<v Speaker 3>He's a real sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 4>You just, Daniel, You didn't even realize what you just did.

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 2>What you just did the peewee tagline.

0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:25.479
<v Speaker 4>I love that story.

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I love that's just straight upline.

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:34.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I love that. Yeah, that's great.

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<v Speaker 7>So then John, were you coming out out to l

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<v Speaker 7>A for pilot season? And then if you did come

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<v Speaker 7>out to l A, were you staying at the oak Woods?

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 3>I did do an oak Wood.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, of course he was.

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:50.400
<v Speaker 3>That was all in New York.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 5>A couple of years later I came out and did

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<v Speaker 5>the full l A pilot season at the oak Woods.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I might have come out maybe three maybe

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 5>three different times, three different occasions, all oak Woods.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe. Were you got oak Woods kids too?

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:09.119
<v Speaker 6>Of course?

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<v Speaker 5>Where?

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, of course you're just from California day.

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we were from here, so we we had we

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 7>lived here. I've lived here my whole life.

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<v Speaker 3>I got so Will and Ryder.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh yeah, nineteen ninety one, nineteen ninety two, and nineteen

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 10>ninety three because it was the first season A Boy.

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 10>I was still at the Oapens living there for the

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 10>first season The Boy's World.

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:33.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, ninety three, ninety four, So.

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 6>You got boy out of while you were living in yep,

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 6>while I was rollerblading around the oak Woods.

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 4>Man, I was in the Z building my first year

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.880
<v Speaker 4>than the M building. Yeah, it's so quick.

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:48.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's the oak Woods anymore.

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 4>It's not. And there's no pilot season, so I went, now,

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:56.880
<v Speaker 4>it's just DIVORCEMN. So yeah, it's strained.

0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 5>I knew. I knew the tennis coach at the oak Woods.

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.639
<v Speaker 5>You know people that don't know. It's like a little

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 5>city within a city, right, Yeah, And I knew the

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 5>tennis coach and his main hustle was he would give

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 5>free tennis lessons and he was friends with all of

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 5>the hot child actors. When oak Wood ride up, I'm

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 5>sure his you know, personal life did too.

0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 4>Funny.

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 2>So after Pee Wee's Playhouse.

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 7>You go into an arc on Webster, which is another

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 7>slightly hallucinatory show. You played Herbert. What was your character.

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 5>I think that was just you know, Webster had like

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 5>a group of friends, and I was one of them

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 5>and the other one was Miambiolic.

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, Yeah, it.

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.439
<v Speaker 5>Was me and Mim and all of the episodes that

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:53.120
<v Speaker 5>we were on, We're on a handful, we were kind

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 5>of recurring and it was always me and her going

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:56.679
<v Speaker 5>on together.

0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 7>Similarly to p Emmanuel Lewis as Webster is like a

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 7>real larger than life character to young jen xers.

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 2>What was it like to work with him?

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 5>I was like obsessed with the manual because I was

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 5>a Michael Jackson fan and he used to go around

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 5>with Michael all the time. Michael he would either bring

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 5>an Emmanuel of the monkey bubbles.

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 4>Bubbles.

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how he would pick.

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.439
<v Speaker 5>But it was a little odd because he was like

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 5>an adult. So when we got on the show, like

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 5>he wasn't the age he was playing. I guess he

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 5>was playing eleven, but he was probably eighteen or nineteen

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:41.159
<v Speaker 5>right older.

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 3>So he was very cool, but he didn't We didn't

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 3>really spend a lot of time together because of.

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 2>That, because he was an adult.

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 3>But he was very nice and we still keep in touch.

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 2>On that's great.

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 3>Thanks God for Instagram. You know you can just drop anyone, Aline.

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:03.120
<v Speaker 3>I know it's it's a little annoying.

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 5>As like from the celebrity standpoint, because you know, used

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 5>to be had to write somebody a fan mail and

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:11.159
<v Speaker 5>you could ignore them.

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 3>You can't do that anymore. You got to answer.

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 7>Just before what would end up being your big break,

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 7>you did an episode of The Cosby Show, completing a

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 7>very surreal trilogy of first gigs. It is the biggest

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 7>sitcom in the universe at the time.

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:33.679
<v Speaker 2>That job couldn't have been easy. What was that like?

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 5>It was like, you want to talk about an energy

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 5>pulsating that's tangible going on that set.

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 3>It was like being in a part of something that.

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 5>Was like alive and taking and such a beautiful energy

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 5>there in New York. And the first day I went

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 5>for my audition, I ran into Adam Sandler because he

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 5>was on the show too, and I guess he was

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 5>at the production office for some but I had a

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 5>whole chat with Adam and got to be friends with

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 5>him and didn't even know it was Adam Sandler. Yeah,

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 5>so we Adam and I go back to you know

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 5>whatever year that was, was that like nineteen eighty seven?

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, what crazy?

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 7>Okay, So let's get into Mighty Ducks. So then Mighty

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 7>Ducks comes along and you would play the iconic Goldberg.

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 7>What was that audition like, did you have any hockey experience?

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 5>I had no hockey experience, but the character when I

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 5>got the part, wasn't for a character named Goldberg, who

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 5>was originally written to be a kid named a Tuk.

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 3>And you only had one line in the whole movie.

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm the Tuk, the goalie.

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 5>So when we got to training camp, I think the

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 5>producers and you know they the writers, they got to

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:50.719
<v Speaker 5>know us a little better, and I suppose they figured

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 5>with my big mouth, I'd be better suited, you know,

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 5>making more remarks.

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, with that dialogue.

0:29:58.360 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, exactly.

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 5>When I get the part, it was just the one line,

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 5>and it took us over six months of auditioning, and

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 5>I must have been back five or six times.

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 3>And you guys know how it is.

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 5>You go in the room and they weren't giving me,

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 5>giving me any notes or anything. So I was just

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 5>going in the room and doing that, I took the

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 5>goalie every time.

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, wait, they brought you back that many

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>times for just that one line.

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 3>That one line.

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 6>They were probably doing like tons of mix and match

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 6>sessions and they were like, which which group of kids

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 6>looks the best on camera?

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when I think back, that had had to do

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 3>what it was.

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 7>Oh, so you're thrown into a hockey team, albeit it's

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 7>a fictional one, but you're filming in Minnesota together.

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Did you guys have bonding.

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 7>Exercises and all start to have that like real team connection?

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 5>And I would say our bonding exercise was training camp

0:30:58.200 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 5>because before the movie.

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 3>They had to teach us liars who told them we

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 3>knew how to play, And we did a camp, a

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 3>training camp that was legit right.

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 5>It was you know, eight in the morning till three

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 5>every day and I think it was three months.

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 2>So where did you Where were you staying?

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 5>They put us off at like the fattest condominium situation

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 5>you could ask for.

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 3>It was nice working.

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 5>It was my first like film, and it was awesome

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 5>to do it for a big company like Disney.

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 3>I thought that now they would all.

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 11>Be yeah, yeah exactly, so yeah, we definitely so Not

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 11>only did we have training camp, but we also did

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 11>recreational stuff together.

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 5>They would put us all in the duck bus and

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 5>like take us to a movie or land. So we

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 5>definitely I don't know about I can't speak for the

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 5>other guys, but I definitely felt like I was really

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 5>part of a team, and I think that really showed in.

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 3>The in the film.

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 5>I think that's what, you know, people can relate to that.

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 5>That feeling kind of probably comes off screen.

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 7>Do you love seeing people in Goldberg jerseys now so

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 7>many years later?

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 3>It never gets old? Danielle ye Old, Yeah, no, it's awesome.

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Did Emilio Estevez feel like your coach.

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 3>Milo, That's a really good question.

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if he felt like a coach To me,

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 5>he always just felt like a movie star, Okay, yeah, yeah,

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 5>because Amelio was a movie star at that time, and

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, he didn't he wasn't. It wasn't you know,

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 5>his personality wasn't affected in that way. But he definitely

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 5>had movie star energy.

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he had that presence.

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 5>So when he was around, you know, I was always

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 5>just kind of starstruck. I'll be honest with you, But

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 5>he could not have been like any cooler or any

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 5>you know, more down to earth and just an awesome

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 5>guy to work with. He would do a couple of

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 5>times he would rent out a movie theater and just.

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Have us all go to watch some movie together.

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 5>He had a one come out called Judgment Night, and

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 5>he took us to see that one.

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 3>I like that as a team.

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 2>That's really cool. That's very cool.

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 7>So after Mighty Ducks comes out, you become very recognizable.

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 7>How does life change for you after that movie comes out?

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 3>I guess when you mentioned I guess it did change

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 3>a little bit. I mean it was kind of.

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 5>A gradual thing because I was doing TV and I

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 5>was getting recognized for stuff. But definitely getting recognized in public.

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Was something to get used to. I enjoyed it.

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 5>I always it never bothered me in the way I

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 5>see you know. I guess there are certain times where

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 5>you know you're having dinner or something and it's.

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 3>A little weird. Yeah, but I always enjoyed.

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 5>Just I felt like it was a complement of the work.

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 5>And I never really took personal credit for how successful

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 5>The Mighty Ducks was, and I just figured that I

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 5>was a part of something that was really successful, and

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 5>I was very proud of it.

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 2>I guess you'd say, yeah, so great, so healthy.

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 5>A shoot was that I didn't get I didn't start

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 5>the problem with me didn't start till later.

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 3>It was fantastic.

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 4>How long a shoot was Mighty Ducks? Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>Well so two months of camp and then maybe ninety

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 5>days of a shoot.

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so like full five months and then you shown

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:46.879
<v Speaker 2>for D two?

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 7>How long how long after the first one came out

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 7>did you guys go back for D two?

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 3>I want to say less than a year?

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow?

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 7>Okay.

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>So he likes to pump them out if they if

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>they know they have a hit, it's like, let's do

0:34:58.120 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 1>the next one.

0:34:59.000 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 4>Yep.

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 5>I think they got the I did have the hockey

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:03.359
<v Speaker 5>team and they were like, all right, let's let's do well.

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because it's I mean, is this the first time Ryder?

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>You're good with all this this Hollywood stuff, but I mean,

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>is this the first time a fictional sporting team literally

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>then became a professional sporting team.

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 4>I think so.

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 6>I remember the Mighty Ducks stadium and the tea and

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 6>it was just like, this is crazy that Disney's going

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:23.439
<v Speaker 6>this big and making this a thing.

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, it was also it's illegal.

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 4>I started buying up the world.

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>But I remember that because I went to a Mighty

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Ducks game and I wore my Whaler's jersey, and literally

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:42.799
<v Speaker 1>the next day in my dressing room there was a

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Mighty Ducks jersey with a note from somebody at Disney

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>was like, saw you at the game last night.

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 4>If you go again, please wear this. I remember, And

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 4>it was like.

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.800
<v Speaker 3>I was like, Okay, I guess sorry for Disney.

0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 5>Did that happen after the show is on the air

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:02.800
<v Speaker 5>that Disney and ab she became Buddy.

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was like ninety six ninety seven, so it

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 7>was in the middle of our run answering. Yeah, yeah,

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 7>So I want to talk Heavyweights. It's one of the

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 7>darker Disney comedies ever made, written by jud Appatoo, follows

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 7>a group of kids sent to a weight loss camp

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 7>run by maybe one of the funniest and most psychotic performances.

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 4>Ever heard with Ben Stiller.

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 7>Stiller is Tony Purkis. How do you not break in

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 7>every scene with him?

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Dude? That is a great question.

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 5>It's the only time I've ever had an issue with

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:53.799
<v Speaker 5>that in my entire career, which was not a thing

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 5>for me. Right but have a straight face. When Ben

0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 5>was doing that thing like this close to you was difficult,

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 5>was difficult, and I can be honest, like Ben wasn't

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 5>trying to be funny, right, he was very intense and

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 5>very like scary. It was definitely a little scary. I

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 5>think he wanted to have that effect on us, and

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm pretty sure it worked on everywhere.

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 7>I mean definitely how much of it was improv versus

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 7>actually scripted.

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 5>I want to say almost everything he said was his

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 5>own off the cuff stuff.

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean they might have like.

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 5>Arranged it a little before the tape, you know, but

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 5>so much it was all, you know, And I think

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 5>that was it was like that for all of us

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.280
<v Speaker 5>and where we had the freedom if we wanted to go.

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 3>Off the books, and that was just amazing, you know,

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:47.800
<v Speaker 3>to have that setup.

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 5>And I think that's kind of where Judd began to

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 5>develop that style of his you know, let's comedians sort

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 5>of writ So yeah, definitely we were allowed.

0:37:59.320 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 3>To do that.

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:03.439
<v Speaker 5>And it was weird because on The Mighty Ducks the

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 5>directors we had were also very encouraging when it came

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 5>to improvise, not improvising at living because we had a

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:13.360
<v Speaker 5>lot of scenes where it was like, you know, the

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 5>ducks make their way to the limo, or the ducks

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 5>make their way to the bench. You know, there's shots

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:22.399
<v Speaker 5>of a lot of us moving somewhere, and always they

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 5>were always open to us picturing the lines.

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I love that.

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I thought that's how it would be all

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 5>the time, and you know, not so much. You know,

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:38.280
<v Speaker 5>I started working on sitcoms and stuff, and you can't

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 5>show up on Boy World and be like, I'd like

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.920
<v Speaker 5>to say this right now, can we try it?

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:46.360
<v Speaker 4>My way?

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 7>Was Ben able to turn it off between the scenes,

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.360
<v Speaker 7>like was he laughing joking with you guys, or was

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:53.760
<v Speaker 7>he pretty much in character?

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Ben was sitting character.

0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 5>He really did, and I think you know, the way

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 5>he did that was by separation, and he was he

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:06.399
<v Speaker 5>wasn't lax about it.

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:08.479
<v Speaker 3>It was like cut, I'll be over here.

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:15.320
<v Speaker 5>And he was very deliberate in not establishing friendly relationships

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 5>with us.

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Right friend on this movie.

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if if that, you know, worked for

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 5>him because he didn't like kids or fat kids or what.

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 3>But he definitely made.

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:28.840
<v Speaker 5>A choice to do that and I think it worked.

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 5>But on the last day of production, Uh, you know,

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 5>we were out there three months and I walked up

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 5>to him and I said, Ben, like I went to

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 5>shake his hand. I said, this has been just the

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 5>magical experience learning from you and observing for you, and

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 5>I just want to thank you for an incredible shoot.

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.920
<v Speaker 5>And he shook my hand and said, you're welcome, and

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:49.840
<v Speaker 5>what's your name again?

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:53.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, was he even serious?

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Wow.

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.839
<v Speaker 6>Movie is like a cult classic because it didn't really

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 6>hit at the time. But I remember, like ten years later,

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 6>like I guess in the early aughts, having a friend

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 6>be like, you haven't seen Heavyweights.

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:11.960
<v Speaker 4>You have to watch this movie.

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 6>It is so good and so dark and interesting ways

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:17.400
<v Speaker 6>And I remember watching it and just I want to

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 6>see it again now that we're talking about it. But

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 6>I remember being like, oh, yeah, this is kind of

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 6>a missed masterpiece.

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 4>It's it's like really funny and interesting.

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 6>And Ben Stiller, he has this tradition of films that

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 6>are very like dark and edgy, and you know, like

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 6>the same with Cable Guy.

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 4>And there are movies that they didn't reach.

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 6>Like a popular audience, but we look back on them

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:37.919
<v Speaker 6>now and we're like, they were really kind of ahead

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 6>of their time in terms of their comedy and what

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 6>they were saying really interesting.

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 7>Guys and Geeks team was also involved in it, and

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 7>you ended up being on Freaks and Geeks quite a bit. Sean, Yeah, okay,

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 7>it works.

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Loved you.

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 5>I loved that show and I wanted to be on

0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 5>and they just didn't like I really wasn't a freak

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:02.280
<v Speaker 5>and I really wasn't a geek. So really, what happened,

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how much into the weeds you want

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 5>to get into, but what happened was at the time

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 5>and I was sort of doing a day player part

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 5>on there, and my manager advised me to quit the show.

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 5>Okay and one of the top shows of all time

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 5>people and so being at that age and you know,

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 5>paying somebody to give me advice, I took his advice

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 5>and I ended up quitting the show maybe after five

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 5>episodes or six episodes, probably just stuck it out.

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 7>What do you think the where do you think that

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 7>advice came from? What do you think your manager was

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 7>trying to do?

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:46.919
<v Speaker 3>Well?

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:48.799
<v Speaker 5>I mean I know where it came from because I

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 5>was making a lot of money doing like series regular

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 5>and I had just come off a series regular thing,

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 5>and then I was doing a day player part and

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 5>I remember him saying, how do you expect to ask

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 5>people to pay you blank amount if you're going to show.

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 3>Up for nothing enough? Yeah?

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>And so.

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I took his advice.

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 5>And you know, that's probably if I had any regrets

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 5>career wise, that was probably not a good decision because

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:22.919
<v Speaker 5>I wanted to be on the show and I liked

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:24.359
<v Speaker 5>those guys right.

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 3>And it meant something.

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 5>You know, I've made smaller projects myself, and you know,

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:32.279
<v Speaker 5>when people who are with you and want to work

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 5>with you, it means a lot. And when they say

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to be part of this, you remember that,

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:40.800
<v Speaker 5>you know, yeah exactly. So I think it it might have,

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, just affected my personal relationships with those guys.

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 3>So what are you going to do.

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:49.360
<v Speaker 2>As a kid?

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:54.359
<v Speaker 7>You had such an old soul aura about you and

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:58.280
<v Speaker 7>the characters that you played, very old school wise beyond

0:42:58.320 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 7>your years, comedy chops.

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Where do you think that came from?

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:03.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 5>I mean, as I mentioned before, I had older brothers

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 5>and sisters, so I think I would, you know, mimic

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 5>them a lot. But also people used to tell me

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:17.439
<v Speaker 5>that I reminded them of Jackie Gleason, I could see

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 5>that he happened to be one of the guys that

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 5>I started watching from a very young age.

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:25.359
<v Speaker 3>So I think most of my.

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:29.719
<v Speaker 5>Comedy, like the way in which it ended up manifesting,

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 5>was influenced mostly by watching I Love Lucy and by

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 5>watching Honeymooners. Yeah, so that stuff sort of has is

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 5>you know, has an older time games.

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 6>It's like old timey comedy.

0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 5>Exactly those rhythms, you know that that that cadence and

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 5>even some of the body movements. So maybe that's that's

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:57.160
<v Speaker 5>where that came from me trying to emulate my heroes basically,

0:43:57.160 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 5>but I can see that.

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 7>And then you on Boy Meets World, with your first

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 7>episode being season six, You're married, You're dead, And I

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 7>know you had done one episode of Charles in Charge

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.880
<v Speaker 7>with Michael back in nineteen eighty eight, But did you

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 7>have to audition for this Boy Meets World role or

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:15.360
<v Speaker 7>was I just offered to you?

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:16.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I did.

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 5>I think what happened was I was looking for jobs

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:27.719
<v Speaker 5>here and there, and somebody had had remembered that I

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:31.320
<v Speaker 5>was friends with Michael somehow, and I think my manager

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 5>pitched me to him. Hey, do you have anything for

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 5>him on the show? And I think he was nice

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 5>enough to give me, you know that part. I mean,

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:43.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure I had to come in and do something

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.520
<v Speaker 5>and it's just handed to me, But I don't.

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:47.879
<v Speaker 3>Remember it being like a typical audition.

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, I probably just had to come in

0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:52.920
<v Speaker 5>and read for them, you know that that sort of thing.

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Had you ever seen Boy Meets World before?

0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 4>Are you kidding?

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:02.760
<v Speaker 3>Listen?

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 5>And this is what's crazy, because I rewatched the episode

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 5>just yesterday and there's a lot of there's It's really

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:12.760
<v Speaker 5>the theme in the show that my characters talking about

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 5>was really a very true to life thing for me,

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:19.799
<v Speaker 5>because well, I just got to say, you guys, you know,

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.839
<v Speaker 5>back then, it was like cool was the thing.

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:27.400
<v Speaker 3>It was all about being cool, right, and you guys as.

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 5>A group were the coolest kids on the face.

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:38.920
<v Speaker 3>Of the earth. It looked like it looked like.

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:43.920
<v Speaker 5>And also I remember I remember being having that feeling too.

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 5>When I got there. I was like, wait a second,

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:48.720
<v Speaker 5>these kids aren't trying to be cool. They're being funny,

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:52.320
<v Speaker 5>like you guys are working hard on comedy. And I

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 5>remember thinking about that too, him like, well, Will is

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 5>that cool? He's not trying to he's trying to be

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 5>a comedian and being cool. Kind of a but you

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I mean I had such a boy crush

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 5>on Ryder and then getting in there to work with

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:15.200
<v Speaker 5>you guys, it was just like I remember how special

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 5>and awesome it felt.

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you want to talk about getting in with

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:23.279
<v Speaker 3>the cool kids, I made it.

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:28.480
<v Speaker 1>We did not feel cool at it all ever, so strange.

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:30.880
<v Speaker 3>No god, no, wait a second.

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:32.799
<v Speaker 5>You mean to tell me you're on the cover of

0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:36.240
<v Speaker 5>Team Beat and that doesn't help feel make it feel cool.

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 6>No, it was the opposite for me. It made me

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:41.719
<v Speaker 6>feel like so insecure. Like you talk about getting recognized

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 6>and feeling proud and like happy that you I would

0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 6>run away head down, like just trying. I was so

0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:48.959
<v Speaker 6>insecure and freaked out.

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 7>Used to feel like a real actor. Sitcom acting wasn't

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 7>the real work he wanted to be doing.

0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was.

0:46:58.160 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 6>I felt trapped on a show that didn't makes sense

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 6>and it just didn't feel like me. I mean, in retrospect,

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 6>we were having fun, like we loved each other and

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 6>we were having fun on the set, But as far

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 6>as the work itself, like I was just like, this

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.719
<v Speaker 6>is not my jam because I just never watched TV.

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 6>I didn't know what was going on, and it just

0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 6>didn't feel like me. So I was incredibly insecure.

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:19.279
<v Speaker 4>But but we were always having fun on the show.

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 5>So interesting, right, I gotta tell you, it's just the

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 5>way you might have been insecure, but it just came

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 5>off as I'm a movie star and I'm shy. That

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 5>is so interesting to hear you say that, and what

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:38.240
<v Speaker 5>a trip. You know, things are so complicated right, totally.

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 5>And one of the things that, uh, that was noteworthy

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 5>for me last night was that, you know, were you

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 5>watching the episode like you and Ben were a comedy team,

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 5>but it seemed like Ben like he wanted you to

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:53.440
<v Speaker 5>be the straight guy.

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Am I right about that?

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 4>Definitely? Definitely?

0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he is the star of the show, so he

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 3>was right.

0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 6>Well, no, it's you know, we've been watching the show

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:06.840
<v Speaker 6>because like for me, when we're doing this rewatch podcast,

0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:08.959
<v Speaker 6>is me watching the show for the first time because

0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 6>I never watched it and so going back, yeah, it's

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:14.320
<v Speaker 6>it's it's interesting like in the first couple of seasons

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 6>that dynamic, like when when they found that that Ben

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 6>and I could play off of each other. It really

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:21.919
<v Speaker 6>changed the show and it became sort of its own thing.

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:25.919
<v Speaker 6>But now watching these later seasons, they're giving me less

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:28.759
<v Speaker 6>and less to do, and I am becoming much more

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 6>just sort of the normal, boring, straight guy, and Ben's

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.480
<v Speaker 6>becoming the like neurotic you know, and it's it's the

0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 6>dynamic of shifting.

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 4>I think the show worked better when we were more.

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Of a duo.

0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 5>Do you think that was something that he like, you know,

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:42.800
<v Speaker 5>talked to the writers about.

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 3>I was just interested.

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 5>I was like, I wonder if Ben said to them, like,

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 5>I want to be more you know, know.

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:51.279
<v Speaker 6>He could just brought it. He was just such a

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 6>funny guy in real life, and I think that he

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 6>had such a sense of humor that they that he

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:59.360
<v Speaker 6>just kept ratcheting up this like sort of bizarre character,

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 6>this different version of Corey, and then they ran with

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 6>it because it really is funny, and you know, it

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:07.160
<v Speaker 6>makes for it becomes the engine of the later seasons,

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:09.880
<v Speaker 6>is like that he is this neurotic mess and that

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:12.480
<v Speaker 6>he isn't getting along in the world like that, as

0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 6>opposed to where they started, which was that he was,

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:16.920
<v Speaker 6>you know, more like a character you would play a

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 6>sort of smart alec, fast talking kid. That's how he

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 6>started on the show, but they quickly made it much

0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:25.360
<v Speaker 6>more where Ben wanted to go, which was like a

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:26.480
<v Speaker 6>freaked out you know.

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Go around me going yeah yeah.

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:30.560
<v Speaker 3>People.

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 1>People forget that how funny Ben is to the point

0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 1>where when I look back, I go, oh, that's right.

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:37.439
<v Speaker 4>He's literally one of the funniest people I've ever worked

0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 4>with in my life. I mean, that's Ben is hysterically

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 4>funny on a camera.

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 1>It got a little muddled in the middle seasons there

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 1>because I think they were trying to find what Corey

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 1>was going to be. But now that they've you know,

0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 1>for lack of a better word, unleashed him in the

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 1>later seasons, he's just hysterically funny.

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 4>Oh well.

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:57.720
<v Speaker 3>Also, there's a lot of mouths to feed on that cast.

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:02.279
<v Speaker 5>You will you were like, bro, you were such a

0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 5>good actor and so funny, like the work you did

0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:07.879
<v Speaker 5>in the in this episode where you're doing the whole

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 5>uh you know, the Truman Show character, like.

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:13.680
<v Speaker 4>That's the one you watched? Okay, because we were wondering

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:15.160
<v Speaker 4>which one you watch, because we we did.

0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:18.919
<v Speaker 1>The first one we did was your first episode You're

0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:20.759
<v Speaker 1>Married Poker.

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:22.880
<v Speaker 3>And I didn't see that. I didn't see that.

0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:26.960
<v Speaker 1>It's probably better that you didn't. It's not our favorite episode.

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:29.839
<v Speaker 1>You were great with what they gave you. You were

0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:33.000
<v Speaker 1>great and the you know, the nothing wrong with the acting.

0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:36.000
<v Speaker 1>The story was muddled and weird. But the Truman Show one.

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:40.480
<v Speaker 1>These guys don't remember that at all, and I fully

0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:42.960
<v Speaker 1>remember that. I fully remember that episode, so I remember

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 1>how involved I was. But when I told them we

0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:47.359
<v Speaker 1>brought it up a couple episodes ago, I was like, oh, yeah,

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 1>the Truman Show episode.

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:49.520
<v Speaker 4>And they're like, what are you doing?

0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Remember that season is it's later this season?

0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:55.879
<v Speaker 4>Right? Yeah, it's later later six, season six.

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 3>They just really did an excellent job. And I remember watching.

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:00.200
<v Speaker 5>You work on that, and you know there's there's a

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 5>scene where there's like maybe fifty extras, right, And I

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:08.520
<v Speaker 5>remember watching you work on the scene that week, just

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:11.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, finding the comedy beats and really you know,

0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:13.920
<v Speaker 5>working with the writers to get it down and then

0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:16.920
<v Speaker 5>on the tape day, like fifty.

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Dudes show up.

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:21.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and we have to act like they've been it

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:22.520
<v Speaker 5>all the long time.

0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Right, of this a strange, a strange flip.

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 4>To have happen. Man, that's hysterical.

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:43.640
<v Speaker 7>So you didn't watch the first episode that you did,

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 7>which is You're Marriage, You're Dead, and you play Louis

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:50.759
<v Speaker 7>the Lackey to Gambling Dan, an actor who appeared to

0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:54.560
<v Speaker 7>be about twenty years older than you late fifties. What

0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:58.000
<v Speaker 7>do you remember about your first week on the show?

0:51:58.080 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 2>What are what were your experiences?

0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 5>Like, I gotta be honest, and I remembered the feeling

0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:06.560
<v Speaker 5>as soon as the episode came on. I was really,

0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:11.239
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how to say, hormonal, hormonal, and the

0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 5>chicks on that set, Danielle, I mean I was.

0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:14.880
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't you know.

0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 5>I was just when you came into the room.

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:22.680
<v Speaker 3>My chemistry would change. I know, I how to control myself, Danielle.

0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 5>And then the other girl, the redhead, I would just

0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:31.440
<v Speaker 5>look so basically the whole time anybody was around, I

0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:32.960
<v Speaker 5>was just like trying to keep it together and try

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:35.640
<v Speaker 5>to keep it together, and I was losing.

0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:36.960
<v Speaker 3>My mind by all like the hot.

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:44.040
<v Speaker 5>And then in the in that episode, were there I

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:46.919
<v Speaker 5>want to say, there's somebody doing a lap dance kind of.

0:52:48.840 --> 0:52:52.960
<v Speaker 4>And the girls are sitting on us, yes, ordering stuff.

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:57.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So basically I'm just bursting at the seams, Danielle.

0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:00.480
<v Speaker 5>The whole time, being like, I gotta go to my

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 5>trailer for a minute.

0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:05.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh god, yeah, it was Pubert.

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:07.560
<v Speaker 3>I remember that show reminded me of puberty.

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 5>Watching it, I was just like, holy man, it was

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:13.959
<v Speaker 5>like madness, madness. But I do remember you guys being

0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:17.719
<v Speaker 5>very gracious and welcoming. It's kind of weird because you

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:20.440
<v Speaker 5>guys have like your little family there, and then you know,

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 5>strangers come in and a lot of times, you know,

0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:26.319
<v Speaker 5>I've been a regular on shows and strangers come in

0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:28.280
<v Speaker 5>and they kind of act like they own the place,

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 5>and it's just like there's like weird dynamics that are involved.

0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:36.440
<v Speaker 5>But you guys were very sweet and friendly and welcoming,

0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:38.640
<v Speaker 5>and it makes a big difference, you know, when you

0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:41.520
<v Speaker 5>go on a show like that.

0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, I also remember that was the first time I'd

0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:46.319
<v Speaker 1>seen you in ten years, because I remember walking onto

0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:47.919
<v Speaker 1>the set and of course they don't tell us who's

0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:49.160
<v Speaker 1>coming on, and I saw you and I was like,

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:51.200
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, you and I ran over gave each

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:52.640
<v Speaker 1>other a big hogs like because.

0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:55.799
<v Speaker 4>I hadn't seen you since that set in New York, right, So.

0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was you know, here you are out here,

0:53:58.520 --> 0:54:01.560
<v Speaker 5>you are out in Los Angeles, you're famous on a

0:54:01.600 --> 0:54:02.960
<v Speaker 5>TV show and you do.

0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:05.360
<v Speaker 4>You were you were the Mighty Ducks. Everything. It was

0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:08.000
<v Speaker 4>like we made it.

0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:14.640
<v Speaker 1>The clim Yeah, well it's because we saved all that

0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 1>drug dealer's money and flew out here.

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:17.680
<v Speaker 4>It worked like a charm.

0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it really felt very special, like.

0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 5>Really it was, you know, looking back on it, it was

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:26.799
<v Speaker 5>really a magical experience.

0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:30.360
<v Speaker 3>I hate to put it like that, but very nice.

0:54:31.360 --> 0:54:34.640
<v Speaker 7>And so now on the other side of sobriety for you,

0:54:34.719 --> 0:54:37.920
<v Speaker 7>which we are all so proud of you for. By

0:54:37.920 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 7>the way, how much did the allure of Hollywood and

0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:45.960
<v Speaker 7>the situations we were all put in as kid actors

0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:52.600
<v Speaker 7>dealing with fame play into your ability to find that scene?

0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:56.960
<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean really, when I look back on it,

0:54:57.200 --> 0:55:02.719
<v Speaker 5>my my my issues really sunk in when all of

0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:07.080
<v Speaker 5>that stuff went away. So I never really got into

0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:10.279
<v Speaker 5>like drugs or anything while I was working, and it

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:12.960
<v Speaker 5>was when it was when I stopped working and I

0:55:13.080 --> 0:55:14.680
<v Speaker 5>basically walked away from.

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Things thinking that I could just you know, roll back

0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:19.200
<v Speaker 3>in whenever.

0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:25.640
<v Speaker 5>And so when the life of being in movies and television,

0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:31.880
<v Speaker 5>when that disappeared, I think boredom really became something that

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:34.200
<v Speaker 5>was very hard for me to deal with. You know,

0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 5>when there's a kid actor and you're working on stuff,

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:41.680
<v Speaker 5>there's always something. There's a press tour or a screening

0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:45.600
<v Speaker 5>or something, and just the excitement of.

0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Showing up to work on a sitcom it's very exciting.

0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:53.560
<v Speaker 5>Right when that stuff went away, it definitely created an

0:55:53.800 --> 0:56:01.600
<v Speaker 5>enormous void that I had difficulty filling. That's definitely affected

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 5>me and definitely.

0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Was a big deal.

0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 5>But maybe not in like the traditional way that people

0:56:07.200 --> 0:56:09.440
<v Speaker 5>might assume exactly.

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's actually it's not like Hollywood itself didn't lead you.

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:16.759
<v Speaker 2>There was the absence of that in your life.

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:19.640
<v Speaker 5>Because when I was getting into things like it was

0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:22.799
<v Speaker 5>becoming hip to sort of like the clean lifestyle was

0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:26.600
<v Speaker 5>taking over, like the cocaine party nights. So when I

0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:28.960
<v Speaker 5>came to Hollywood, everyone was doing their best to try

0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:30.400
<v Speaker 5>to be as healthy as possible.

0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:34.200
<v Speaker 3>That's true, nobody really. I never really had adults really

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:35.279
<v Speaker 3>give me anything, you know.

0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:39.560
<v Speaker 7>So I know a lot of your struggles were documented

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:43.520
<v Speaker 7>on the internet, including your mugshot and aspects of life

0:56:43.800 --> 0:56:47.279
<v Speaker 7>many people face, just not in public. Did it make

0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:50.840
<v Speaker 7>that entire situation harder for you to overcome? Knowing that

0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 7>everything was being documented, even if you didn't want it

0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:55.719
<v Speaker 7>to be, Like, how did that play into your recovery?

0:56:56.400 --> 0:56:58.880
<v Speaker 5>Honestly, I think in some ways it made it a

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:02.680
<v Speaker 5>little easier, Daniel, because first of all, it made me

0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:06.799
<v Speaker 5>have to surrender earlier than I might have. Because when

0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:09.440
<v Speaker 5>you have, you know, stories about you on the news

0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:12.960
<v Speaker 5>and the narrative really isn'tcorrect, There's nothing I could do

0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:16.160
<v Speaker 5>about it from a jail cell. So I had to

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:19.760
<v Speaker 5>decide to surrender early on, which ended up being a

0:57:19.880 --> 0:57:23.800
<v Speaker 5>major benefit in the twelve step program. Yeah, and then

0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:28.440
<v Speaker 5>also I was the benefit of a tremendous amount of

0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:32.960
<v Speaker 5>support from people, and that really made a difference to me.

0:57:33.120 --> 0:57:36.360
<v Speaker 5>I didn't know that these movies I was in were

0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:41.000
<v Speaker 5>meaningful to people. I got so many letters from people

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<v Speaker 5>telling me that they didn't want to go to school

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<v Speaker 5>because they were overweight and they felt a certain way.

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<v Speaker 5>But after seeing Heavyweights, that movie alone just made them

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<v Speaker 5>feel okay about being heavy and yeah, and so many

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<v Speaker 5>kids benefited from that. And so when I when I

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<v Speaker 5>started getting this kind of support from people and I

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<v Speaker 5>started doing better, it became a thing where I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>want to let anybody down, right, and that it really

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<v Speaker 5>helped me in my recovery because like early on I was,

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<v Speaker 5>I had ravaged myself so badly that I didn't have

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<v Speaker 5>a self to recover for, so I really started recovering

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<v Speaker 5>for everybody that was watching any.

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<v Speaker 4>Sense, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's it's so strange because it's it, but it

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<v Speaker 1>makes perfect sense because as somebody who was born and

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<v Speaker 1>grown to be an entertainer, you naturally look for an audience.

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<v Speaker 4>And so that's just that's a very natural thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Because as somebody who who is a natural entertainer like

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<v Speaker 1>you are, you want to please the audience watching you,

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<v Speaker 1>and in this case, you're doing it to make yourself healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such an interesting dynamic of how that works as

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<v Speaker 1>an entertainer.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so so strange.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's really brilliant, Will, because I've never nobody's ever

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<v Speaker 5>put it to me like that, and but that's just

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<v Speaker 5>dead on.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe I thought that's amazing because that's how I feel too.

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<v Speaker 1>I Mean, you always want to please that audience, and

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<v Speaker 1>using that as your key to getting healthy is just

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<v Speaker 1>such an interesting way to.

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<v Speaker 4>Go at it. It's a great way to really take

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<v Speaker 4>advantage of that's really amazing. I'm so proud of you.

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<v Speaker 3>It worked, you know, so it just worked luckily, you know, thankfully.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, we know you have been doing some stand up,

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<v Speaker 7>you're jumping back into some projects. Does it feel good

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<v Speaker 7>to be able to return to the thing you grew

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<v Speaker 7>up doing?

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<v Speaker 3>So good? So good? I mean, Will just said it

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<v Speaker 3>like that thing you know that you have inside to

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<v Speaker 3>want to be an entertainer.

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<v Speaker 5>It never diesn't me at any rate. So being able

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<v Speaker 5>to go do my stand up and at the same

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<v Speaker 5>time deliver.

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<v Speaker 3>A message, it is just it's the best. And you know, thankfully,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm having the time my life.

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<v Speaker 5>Even though forty five and things have happened, I'm in

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<v Speaker 5>the best place that I've been, So, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, unfortunately, you then, right when all this is happening,

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<v Speaker 1>you picked up and you moved to Georgia where nothing's

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<v Speaker 1>being shot.

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<v Speaker 3>Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 6>Hollywood, get more work out there, for sure, oh man,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's not close out here.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of production.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a couple things that I have that i'd

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<v Speaker 5>like to get off the route. One of them I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to give you the elevator pitch. One of them

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<v Speaker 5>is about these signings that we do. These autograph conventions. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I have an idea where the Mighty Ducks guys and

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<v Speaker 5>the Sandlot guys get, shall we say, by one of

1:00:53.160 --> 1:00:56.840
<v Speaker 5>these promoters and decide that they're going to go get

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<v Speaker 5>the one hundred thousand dollars cash that he has.

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<v Speaker 3>In this safe in his hotel room.

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<v Speaker 4>So with the sports team. Yes, it's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a web pitch, Sean.

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<v Speaker 7>Where can people find you? I know, are you're on cameo?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>You cameos love? My cameo is directly tied to my

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<v Speaker 5>door dash, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Cameo. I love doing cameos.

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<v Speaker 5>And just my Instagram is just my name at Instagram,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm always you know, posting notices about my shows

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<v Speaker 5>or whatever I have going on.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the best way to keep in touch with.

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<v Speaker 7>Me Instagram at s h A U n W E

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<v Speaker 7>I S S.

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<v Speaker 3>Sean.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you so much for being here with us, sharing

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<v Speaker 7>your memories and your energy and your optimism, and you're

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<v Speaker 7>you are an inspirational man and we are lucky that

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<v Speaker 7>you graced us with your time, So thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>So I can't tell you what a pleasure it's been

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<v Speaker 5>getting up with you three and you guys all.

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<v Speaker 3>Look amazing or as beautiful as ever here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here too, Sean, We'll see you soon.

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<v Speaker 8>B bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, what a guy, what a story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so strange to think about the journey, just just

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<v Speaker 1>all of life.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the first time, literally, the first time I.

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<v Speaker 1>Stepped on a set that other than that one commercial

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<v Speaker 1>I did was with Sean and it was the two

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<v Speaker 1>of us.

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<v Speaker 4>Leading the leaning commercial.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah my lean acting, my lackting, but just to see

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<v Speaker 1>just the journey we've taken.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's forty five. I'm almost fifty. We were he were.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think I was twelve, so he was

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<v Speaker 1>nine when we did that thing.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's just incredible comedic energy and he's still has

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<v Speaker 6>it and he's just such an open uh god, he

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<v Speaker 6>just he just shined.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a born entertainer. He's a born entertainer.

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<v Speaker 1>He was born to do this and he just he

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<v Speaker 1>found it and they found him, and it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where you look at somebody you.

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<v Speaker 4>Go, oh, yeah, that's why you're here. You're supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>be entertaining.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah No, there's no surprise that you You've always had it,

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<v Speaker 7>you still have it, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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