1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: So let's get into this. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 2: I want to start with probably the biggest thing that 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: happened last week is Amazon. So Amazon, it was down 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: twenty percent after hours, but then it rebounded. I think 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: it finished the day down like seven percent something like that, 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: but missed it's uh, it's expected guidance. The guidance was 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: lower than they were expected. Still profitable, still made a 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: ton of money, but just missed Wall Street's expectations, and 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: it dropped to a fifty two week low. Like I said, 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: rebounded a little bit from that. But yeah, it's interesting, man, 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: it really, you know, had a really tough day and 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: it's been having a tough year. 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: It's been having a tough couple of years. Actually. Well, 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: so now the stock market, Oh are we. 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: Going to get the dialogue and debate that we get sports? Well, 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: what's the show is going to be the one? What's 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: the base show? 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: Is? 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: So the stock stock market is up for the month 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: of October. 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was up eleven percent. 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: The Nasdaq is up even the other day when when 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: Amazon crashed, NASDAK was up. That's when people was up. 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: That was up. But so Amazon was your pick of 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: the year, Yes, it was. So I'll let you start 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: off this conversation is do you want to reverse that? 27 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: I'm not there down Everest? So which which way are 28 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: we going? Which way we're going? 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: Yes? 30 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: Sension or the sension is key? 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean based on everything that I had read 32 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: in my in my information, you know, I stuck by 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 4: that pick. 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Has it gone the way I predicted? No? No? Do 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: I still believe in the company. Absolutely. 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 4: So the report, the earnings report was interesting, right, because 37 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 4: there was some like if you looked inside of it, 38 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: there were some good spots, but the bad spots were 39 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: so bad that it got overlooked. So I'm gonna break 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: it down by the numbers, and so a good spot 41 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 4: the revenue group about fifteen percent. Anytime you have a 42 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 4: business and it grows, that's great. The advertising, right, which 43 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 4: is we said was going to pass Google at some point, 44 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 4: was up by twenty five percent. The big pitfall was 45 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 4: the operating income that fell by forty nine percent. Right, 46 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 4: So those who don't know what operating income is, can 47 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 4: you really quickly explain to them on I mean, I 48 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 4: think the best way to say it is the money 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: that they are taking in and how they're going to 50 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: use it now and specifically for tech companies and inflationary environments, 51 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 4: this does not bolde well, right, And so as inflation 52 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 4: goes the cost to do things to operate your business 53 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 4: obviously goes up. And so when you see interest rate rise, 54 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 4: you see right, since January, if you look at the NASTEC, 55 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 4: the tech stocks have taken descension. We're gonna stick with 56 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: that work. Most of them died riding down ever or 57 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 4: walking down evers, right, most counts die on a decession, 58 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 4: So that that that was huge, all right. The arnth 59 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 4: per share dropped right by an estimated forty five percent. 60 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 4: So those those two things, when you're talking about operating 61 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 4: costs and the earnings per share drop in there you 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: can see why a company like Amazon, which I still 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 4: think is a top three, if not top two companies 64 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 4: in the world, had such a negative quarter. Operating cash 65 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: flow also declined by twenty five percent. So like now 66 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: we're talking about three major factors of things that are like, 67 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: all right, this is a rough quarter. But even Basos 68 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 4: when they asked him about it, he was like, look, 69 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: we're gonna have to really tighten the belt because the 70 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 4: climate is about to get a real tricky. So those 71 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: are three factors you add on to one other thing 72 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 4: that was almost positive. 73 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: And kind of got overlooked. 74 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 4: But the fourth quarter revenue is expected to grow by 75 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 4: two to eight percent. Fourth Quarta, obviously we know, is 76 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: how they shop and how they season. More people are 77 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 4: in e commerce. The only thing is that what they're 78 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 4: seeing is that more people are going back into the stores. 79 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 4: We thought that obviously from the COVID time that people 80 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 4: were shopping online and it was a positive. But people 81 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 4: are back outside right e commerce numbers are not looking 82 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 4: the same as they did when you know, it was 83 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: a lockdown. So all those things taken into account. I 84 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 4: understand it. Do I still believe in it absolutely. Is 85 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: it going to be the stock of the year. 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Ninety nine was like a good spot 139 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: that we liked, got in. It's like currently like a 140 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: one oh four if you're holding it for the long term, 141 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: you will be good also for a quick homework assignment. Internationally, 142 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: if you're going to order online from someone who are 143 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: the four biggest competitors of Amazon. Now ask yourself, who's 144 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: going to get the goods to you there faster than Amazon? 145 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: No one. 146 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: They'll fix the operating income. Any money they're losing right now, 147 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 3: they'll fix. Going into next year, you're going to be 148 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: really upset if you don't hold a stock twenty twenty five, 149 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 3: twenty six. Yeah, and if you look at the climate 150 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: of the world, like every country is trying to create 151 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: a business that replicates Amazon, right and I won't give 152 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: them the names because you gave them a homework assignment. 153 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: But go look in China, right, Well, we know that company, 154 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: but go look in South America. There's another company there 155 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: that is duplicated the business model of Amazon. And so 156 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: they'll figure it out. I believe in them. Well, let 157 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: me ask you this ian. 158 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: You you said a few times that your theory of 159 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: two tech two index, if inflation gets something to over 160 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: eleven percent, then that right, eleven percent? Yes, then that 161 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 2: that is gonna hurt your your theory. So why is 162 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: high inflation bad for technology? 163 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: Especially when quantitative easing goes away all the easy wins, 164 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 3: like for all my hoopers, like when we play on 165 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: like a nine foot rim, we all look like Lebron 166 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: ten feet dramatically different. So that difference between happens your 167 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 3: interest rates and being able to borrow money. Like imagine 168 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: if if I said, hey, come to invest fast euro 169 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: We'll give every entrepreneur one hundred thousand dollars and you 170 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: never have to pay us back. The upside for the 171 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: entrepreneur is probably a ninety five percent win rate. If 172 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: we give one hundred thousand pounds away and say hey, 173 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: you got to pay us twenty five percent back, now 174 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 3: maybe only thirty percent of the businesses will actually be 175 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: profitable as a result, So that arbitrage is one of 176 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: the biggest reasons Now Apple inside of that two tech 177 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: two index model has worked well. That's why always say 178 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: pair with the top two. But if you're going through 179 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: tech and you're looking at something that's fifteenth or twentieth, 180 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: that's not going to do really well because what the 181 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: technology industry really has done has gotten venture capital, which 182 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: has funded all of the ideas, and we have a 183 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: funded innovation. We've really funded the ideas that can get funded. 184 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: That's why we have a whole bunch of social media apps. 185 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: We could talk about it later. Now Jack from squares 186 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: looking to make another social media app, which I think 187 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: is a mistake. But you're really playing an interest rate 188 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: arbitrage game. So if I'm getting loan money at three percent, 189 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 3: when I can find a way ultimately to sell advertising 190 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 3: or a subscription to my user base at nine percent, 191 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: I'm playing an arbitrage game and getting the profit in between. 192 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: If interest rate is high and then no one's loaning 193 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: the money out, it's really hard to win that game. 194 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: So we are in a space, but we need more innovation, 195 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 3: and ironically enough tech has not done a great job 196 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: at making a bunch of innovation. 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