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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Nucoman. I'm the host of the

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Speaker 1: Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be your host into

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Speaker 1: the world of hunting icon of North American wilderness. There

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Speaker 1: you into some of the wildest country on the planet

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Speaker 1: chasing bearing. On this episode the Bear Hunting Magazine Podcast,

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Speaker 1: we're taking it back and notch and we are talking

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Speaker 1: we talk about where bears are, how you hunt them,

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Speaker 1: they're just doing some good stuff. Their membership driven nonprofit organization.

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Speaker 1: Western Bear Foundation. We're at the Bear Honey Magazine global

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Speaker 1: opens the fourth Saturday of of September. Okay, so this

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Speaker 1: year's September does the season openings kind of follow the

427
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: way they typically do with white tail, where you're gonna

428
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: have archery first. Yeah, well, that's right, yeah, yeah. So

429
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: the every state that I know of, the first available

430
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: season is an archery season, and uh and usually especially

431
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: in the Southeast, it coincides with the deer seasons. So

432
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: Arkansas deer season opens with Arkansas bear season. I know.

433
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: It's the same way in Georgia. So that timeframe is

434
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: a great time frame to take a bear. I mean,

435
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,479
Speaker 1: it's probably like prime time, I would say, would be

436
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: September early October harvest to bear and that well, so

437
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: bears during the summertime, it's kind of the season of

438
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: plenty for them. They've got veggete Haitian, They've got a

439
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: vast resource of berries they I mean, it's kind of

440
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: like the good the good old buff can eat. So

441
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: as as the fall creeps in, bears start to hone

442
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: in their ranges and they start to their home ranges

443
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: actually start to shrink significantly, and they begin to hone

444
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 1: into their fall ranges, and then they key in on

445
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: food sources in those fall ranges, which are gonna be

446
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: less than the summer food ranges in terms of options.

447
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: And so and for now we're just gonna stick with

448
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: the southeast, would be acrons and hickory nuts, primarily in

449
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: beech nuts in some places. What kind of hard masks,

450
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: what kind of acorns do they have a preference? Yeah,

451
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: they do. I mean, just like in in generic terms,

452
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: you would say wide oak acorns would be every critter's

453
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: favorite acorn in this part of the world wherever there's

454
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: white oaks, white oak is the preferred food source. Now

455
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 1: in the West and the all you're gonna be hunting berries,

456
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: like in Montana, they don't really have they're not having

457
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: this big hard mast. And that's the terminology that you

458
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: would use hard mast. So hard mast would include acorns,

459
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: beech nuts, and hickory nuts. Um. In a bear, he'll

460
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: he'll chomp hickory nuts just like a squirrel, but he

461
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: would prefer an acorn, and he would enough acrens. He'll

462
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: eat a red oak acre and all day long, but

463
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: he would prefer a white oak acren you know. So

464
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: that's that's your ideal food source during that time. UM,

465
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: and so in the fall, what's cool is as the

466
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: bear is honed down their ranges and if you can

467
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 1: find that preferred food source that has food on it

468
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: because just because you have a white oak tree in

469
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: your where you're hunting doesn't mean that there's gonna be

470
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: acrons there. And it doesn't necessarily mean that there's gonna

471
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: be a bear there. I mean it doesn't you could.

472
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: So you have to cover a lot of ground in

473
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: areas that you know, Okay, there's wide oak ridges in here,

474
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: there's a lot of white oaks, and you would know

475
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: that just by going there. You would know that, by

476
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: talking to a biologist, you would know that, by having

477
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: some familiarity with the area that, Man, this ridge top

478
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: has white oaks on it. I'm gonna walk this ridge

479
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: top and I'm gonna be looking for well, I don't

480
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: want to tell what we're gonna be looking for. Is

481
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: that answer your question? What they're eating? I mean the

482
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: fall that you're you're totally concentrating on, hard mask and

483
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: potentially water that most of the time, water is not

484
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: the limiting resource. So there's water everywhere most of the time.

485
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: But how much what kind of water do they need? Man,

486
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: they don't care they I mean, honestly, I think they

487
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: just am drink out of a mud hole as they

488
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: would a clear, beautiful stream. So even like I mean,

489
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: are we talking about there needs to be a trickle

490
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: in the stream or a seep out of a rock?

491
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: Is enough? Absolutely? I mean so that's so that's I

492
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: mean that could be anywhere then, I mean that's right.

493
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: And so that's usually why you wouldn't key on the water.

494
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: But I've killed is over water and it was because

495
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: it was super dry, and maybe there was well where

496
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking about was like a four service pond that

497
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: you know that in Those are common in a lot

498
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: of places where there's big national forest where they make

499
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: wildlife ponds that hold water. And you know, if you

500
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: found bear sign on a pond, I mean put a

501
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: trail camera up or you know, sit it. I mean,

502
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 1: they could be coming in there. But if it's if

503
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: it's been raining a ton, not going to be a

504
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: limiting factory. So okay, so I've got out of that

505
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: little discussion right there. I've got three different ways to go.

506
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: So let's um, let's talk about the range. So you

507
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: said they start to limit their range down in the fall,

508
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: and so how big of a range do they have? Well,

509
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: so if when you talk about an animal's home range,

510
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: you talk about the furthest points that it ever travels

511
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: in a given year, some timeframe, it's life. So I've

512
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: seen maps that have data points of collared bears, and

513
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: this is the way it looks, James, is there will

514
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: be this cluster of points like right in the somewhere

515
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: in the center, you know, keyed in on some topographic feature,

516
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 1: like maybe it's two or three drainage basins that come together,

517
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: and it's like it's just covered with data points. And

518
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: then out from that core there will be a little

519
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: forays out into other places. And so that bears home

520
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: range might actually encompass. If it's a female, that might

521
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: encompass eight to ten square miles, So there'll be dots

522
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: in a square eight to ten square miles. A male

523
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: could be much bigger than that, Okay, I mean like

524
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: on average they'll probably twenty to thirty square miles. So

525
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: so as a male bear, I mean, we got so

526
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: many different threads to pull on now all of a sudden.

527
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: But is a male bear going to be more nomadic?

528
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: Just in general? He's he could be here today and

529
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: he could be a county over tomorrow. Well it's not. No.

530
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: His his spread all has to do with breeding, which

531
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: is not taking place in the fall. So it's kind

532
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: of you know, it's kind of irrelevant information that a

533
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: that a male bear would have this massive home range

534
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: because that all has to do with breeding, which has

535
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: taken place during the summer, so the fall. And that's

536
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: a good point for somebody that doesn't it's new to

537
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: bear hunting. It's that the we're so used to hunting

538
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: unguluts in the fall that are influenced by the breeding season,

539
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: the rut, elk rut, moose rut, deer rut, you know

540
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: everything rut. Well, in the fall, bears aren't breeding at all.

541
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: They're all they're thinking about is food all they think about.

542
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: So then so then that makes the first point, find

543
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 1: the food that much more important that that is the

544
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: whole story within the podcast. Now, well on the food, Well,

545
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: we found the food. But another thread we need to

546
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: pull on then is you said we need to find

547
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: bear son, so tell me what does that look like? Well,

548
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: so let me let me go back to the fall

549
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: range though, because that was a great question, and this

550
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: helps I think the more people understand bear, the more

551
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: confidence you have when you're going into it. So is

552
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: that you bears have this core and and most of

553
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: those dots on that core are probably taking place in

554
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: the fall, because that's they hone their range down to

555
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: this place they really want to be, you know, and

556
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: um and when you find when you find that, a

557
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: lot of times that's really good bear habitat. And there'll

558
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: be a lot of core bear areas that are overlapped

559
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: on top of each other. So like do you find

560
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: a spot where there might be multiple bears in that area? Yeah,

561
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: like all these ranges that are different ranges, but they

562
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: overlap in like these certain barry areas which might be remote,

563
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: don't have much human intrusion. They might be food rich.

564
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: It might just be a ridge that is just full

565
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: of white oaks and has I mean, just for whatever reason,

566
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: is just good bear habitat um. And so that's what

567
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: you're looking for. But you don't know where a bare

568
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: home range is. I mean, you're just walk out there

569
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: and you're looking for bear sign that that's what you're

570
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: looking for. You're looking for bear sign um and you're

571
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: looking for scat number one. I mean that is it

572
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: sounds so silly, and but man if I could do

573
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: one thing in bear hunting, if you could say clay,

574
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: you can only with your eyes, you can only see

575
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: one bit of sign. I wouldn't I wouldn't care about tracks.

576
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't care about trails. I wouldn't care about scratches

577
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: on trees. I wouldn't care about broken limbs and trees

578
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: where they're breaking down acorn and we're gonna talk about

579
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: all these things. I would want to find fresh bear scat.

580
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: When I try to simplify my philosophy for hunting bears

581
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: in the fall, is I want to walk until I

582
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: find fresh bear scat. Okay, So, I mean everybody can

583
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: google what does that look like? So you know we

584
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: don't have to spend a lot of time on it.

585
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: But you know, a guy walks around in the woods,

586
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: he's out in the middle of nowhere, and you don't

587
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: have a cell phone signal. You come across the pile

588
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: of something, you're like, what is that? So they're they're

589
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: distinguishing characteristics other than the amount of it. A bear

590
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: scat is gonna be quite variable based upon what he's

591
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: gonna eat, but for the most part, it's gonna be

592
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: bigger than anything in the woods around him, Like if

593
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: you and so, most canine scat is tubular, I mean,

594
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: like fox coyote. I mean, those are the main things

595
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: that we would have. You're not gonna see wolf scout

596
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: down here. It's gonna be super tubular. It's probably gonna

597
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: have hair in it because their predators and they're eating

598
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: stuff with hair. Bear scot is gonna be much bigger.

599
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: It can be tubular, and that's where it's kind of

600
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: can go either way. I mean, you could have a

601
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: pile of bear scout that looked like a cow pie,

602
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: just a big PLoP okay, or you could have bear

603
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: scot that was very tubular. I think it's a good discussion.

604
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: We gotta do it. Yeah. Uh, I have people send

605
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: me pictures of what they're asking. Is this bear? Is

606
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: this bear scout all the time? And uh usually if

607
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: you have to ask it, it may not be because

608
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: it's uh a lot of times it's kyote or something.

609
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: But it's just like when you see it, you know it. Yeah,

610
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: there's nothing else. There's nothing else. I mean, the only

611
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: other competing animals would be kyote. I mean, what other

612
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 1: big animal do we have? I mean all the ungulates

613
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: that we would have, which I mean primary would just

614
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: be deer around here or out west of the Elka

615
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: moose too. They're gonna have pellets. I mean, there's nothing

616
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: else that's leaving unless you're in mountain lion country. And

617
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: I couldn't even tell you what mountain lion scout look like.

618
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: So don't worry about if you find mountain lion scout,

619
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: You've just like won the lottery, So good for you.

620
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't I don't think they're gonna have

621
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: much trouble. But I mean it's just big. It's big.

622
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: It's big. Can you break down the diet of a

623
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: bear like throughout the whole year, like a percentage of

624
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: blocks of what they eat? So a bear eats? Are

625
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: bears in Arkansas the studies, and this would reflect a

626
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: lot of other places plant matter and animal matter, and

627
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: of that like a very high percentage of that is insects. Okay,

628
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: So bears are bears are they're eating lots of plant

629
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: And by plant matter, that would be berries, that would

630
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: be grass in the spring, it would be acorns, hickory nuts,

631
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: beech nuts, would be prickly pear cactus and Arizona New Mexico.

632
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean like plant matter, and then would be protein

633
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: animal matter which they will catch deer fauns. They will.

634
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: A hungry bear would probably eat on the carcass of

635
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: the deer if it found it, I mean a full

636
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: grown carcass. But they're rolling logs, they're digging rocks, eating insects,

637
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: so okay, all right, yeah, so that's so that's the

638
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: number one sign you can tell. You can what you

639
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: can tell so much from a pile of scat. I mean,

640
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: like because you see a track, Like, honestly, most places

641
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: you're not gonna see bear track. I mean you you

642
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 1: only see bear tracks where the ground's wet or where

643
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: the grounds really dry and bear I mean, you're not

644
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: gonna really see bear tracks in the leaves. So if

645
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: you walk up here, I mean, you're gonna walk a

646
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: long time in Arkansas before you find d a bear track.

647
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: So I'm not really looking for that. And if you

648
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: see a bear track, it's hard to tell really how

649
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 1: old is but man bear scot with any with any

650
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: understanding of how something wet and mushy interacts with hot weather,

651
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: you can tell. If it's got a crust on top

652
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: of it, it's it's a day old. If it's hard

653
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: and crumbly, it's so old it's irrelevant. If it is

654
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: smoking hot and just no crust saw I mean, you know,

655
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: you you you, you gotta learn how to analyze animal

656
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: scout to turn to test test its freshness. And uh,

657
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: there's a big difference between a four or five day

658
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: old polo scat and a poly scat that was made

659
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: this morning. And that's exciting signed for me to find.

660
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: When I find a smoking hot pile of bear scout,

661
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: you can kill that bear for real. So then it's

662
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: get your eyes open and start looking. Well then, so

663
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: it's object to number one. It's fine a bear, you know, yes,

664
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean like, and then you go into step number two,

665
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: hunt the bear, hunt the bear. Yeah, And and you

666
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: might do it all in one step, which I've done

667
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: that and it's been successful. I mean, just like scouting

668
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: fine sign and in the same block of time see

669
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: a bear and kill it. That's very possible. A more

670
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: likely scenario would be that you go, man, this is

671
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: a nice looking ridge. I'm gonna walk two and a

672
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 1: half miles down that drainage and make a big loop

673
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: and come back out to the truck and you go

674
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: off down in there, and dang, there's some fresh bear

675
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: sign and and you might see bear trails. We can

676
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: talk about that. But you find bear sign and it's

677
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: twelve o'clock in the day and it's hot, and you're

678
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: not really prepared to sit there the whole day, you know.

679
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: I mean, at that point, you you start hunting that

680
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: bear like you would a deer. Okay, you would use

681
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: the wind in your favor, because if he smells you,

682
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: you're done big time. Oh, you would use the wind

683
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: in your favor. You would just analyze the sign and

684
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: be like, the bear seems to be using this side

685
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 1: of the ridge more than that side, So I'm gonna

686
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: hunt this side. I mean, you know, it just just hunting,

687
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be like a deer. He's gonna use

688
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: these areas morning and evening. They're they're crecepular. I'm not

689
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: saying that right. How do you say that word corpuscular, crepuscular?

690
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: I think that's how you said. Okay, I thought it

691
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: was a cr crepuscular. He might be right, we're on

692
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: the track. I think the mornings and the twilight movers.

693
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: I mean totally. So you would hunt him just like

694
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: that morning hunt, evening hunt. That being said my most

695
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: successful just like spotting stock Eastern hunting anyway has been

696
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: going on in scouting, but prepared to hunt. Okay, scout,

697
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: but prepared to stay all day. That's what I always say.

698
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: And when I leave my truck in the morning to

699
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: go scout, it's like I may be back here in

700
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: five hours because I didn't find anything. But if I

701
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: get up there and find something, I'm not leaving. And

702
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: that's how I've killed several bears. It's just going in

703
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: with packing a little food, packing the packing the bow,

704
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,959
Speaker 1: packing what you need, and you might just bump into

705
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: a bear because you don't want to. If it's season,

706
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: you might as well be packing your yeah, your bow,

707
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: even if you're doing some serious scouting. What you're gonna

708
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: have to do. So, yeah, you gotta cover the ground

709
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,479
Speaker 1: and find him. Okay, that was something I was gonna ask.

710
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll come back to that. So, so we've

711
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: we've found an area that we want to hunt. What

712
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: what don't we talk about other bear sign though? That's

713
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: what I was just gonna say, so so, so tell

714
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: me the other kind of bear signs. I found A

715
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: found a steaming pile. All right, now, what am I

716
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: looking for? Well? So bears in the fall are are

717
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: inside of a biological process they call hyper faji, which

718
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: is and we've talked about that a lot on the

719
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: podcast where they have a fall feeding frenzy. They're getting

720
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: ready to go to sleep for four months, they got

721
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: to eat a bunch of groceries. They can forage for

722
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: up to and I've never seen this myself, but they

723
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: say they can forage up for up to twenty hours

724
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: a day. Wow. I mean, just they're just eating, pounding, pounding,

725
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: and so what I have found that the way that

726
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: bears use food resource is they will just pound a

727
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: resource until it's gone. I mean, and I don't know

728
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: if that's really much different than deer, but like, let

729
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: me just put it this way. If there's a ridge

730
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: top that's got fresh bear scot it might look like

731
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: a it might look like a zoo up there. I

732
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: mean it's like a cattle yard maybe. Yeah. And so

733
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna see bear trails, and bear trails would just

734
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: be patted out wide areas, and the leaves that you

735
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: can discern that this is a game trail, it's gonna

736
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: be patted out. I mean, a deer trail is usually

737
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: kind of narrow, and I mean, you know, you can

738
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: tell a hoofed animals what's been a bear trail is

739
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: gonna be wider, it's gonna be flatter, the leaves are

740
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: gonna just look like they're just mashed down by a

741
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: flat pad, you know, and they're bigger animal. You will

742
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: also see places, and this is hard to visualize until

743
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: you see it, but in certain places where the topography

744
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 1: narrows down, bears will actually step in the same place

745
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: over and over before on like on Kodiak Island, you

746
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: can see pictures where they like coming around the rim

747
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: of a point or something where I mean literally there's

748
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: holes in the ground to foot deep that look like

749
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: bear tracks, and it's for thousands of years. Bears when

750
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: they come around that point, they put their feet in

751
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: the same place. Well, on a micro scale, that will

752
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: happen on top of that ridge top that they're pounding

753
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: the food source. They're not gonna do it everywhere, but

754
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: if there's a reason, if if they're like walking straight

755
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: and they have to go around the rock, around that rock,

756
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: you'll find these little paths and so you'll you won't

757
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: find it for like fifty yards, you'll find it for

758
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: like five or six yards. Does that make sense? Yeah,

759
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: perfect sense. Yeah. So, and and that's a tailtale sign

760
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: of a bear for sure. But those trails will last

761
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: for long periods of time. So just because you find

762
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that you're finding smoking hot bear sign.

763
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: You should probably look around then and see if there's

764
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: still food available in that spot. If there's food there,

765
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: then there's a good chance that there could be a

766
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: bear coming to that. Hopefully you didn't speak. Hopefully. What

767
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: you find is you get up there and you're like, man,

768
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: there's wide oak akers on the ground. There's wide oak

769
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: aker in the trees. Oh, there's a pile of bear scaut.

770
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 1: You walk in another fifty yards and you're like, oh, man,

771
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: look where they are going through this saddle. They're making

772
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: a trail. I mean, once you're there, you're in the

773
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: chips and and this is this is encouraging to me

774
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: because it's hard to find that spot. I'm not gonna

775
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: lie to you. I mean the reason guys aren't bear

776
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: hunting so much because they're tough to kill. They're tough

777
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: to find um. But that spot is out there. I

778
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: mean when I when I enter into the big woods

779
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: looking for to go bear hunting. You know, there's these

780
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: mine tricks that you play with yourself. And I'm like,

781
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: you know, and I found spots like that before, and

782
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, that spot's out there right now where you

783
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: know you just kind of look around. You're like, it's

784
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: that there's a bear pound in this mountain coming to

785
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: the same place every morning and evening right now today,

786
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: I just gotta find it. And so you can, you

787
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: can easily, uh you know, chalk off areas. I mean,

788
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: you walk on top of a ridge and you don't

789
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: see much, don't go back there, got you don't waste

790
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: your time, go somewhere else, you know, just keep well.

791
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 1: They I mean obviously they can't be in every single

792
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: spot at once, you know, eating every single acorns. So

793
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 1: they're gonna move around. Is there a way that they

794
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: would go from you know, earlier in the season until

795
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: later in the season. They're gonna be maybe earlier in

796
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: the season they're down on the maybe they're on the

797
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: north side where it's cooler or something like that, or

798
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: they're closer to water. I don't know, is there stuff

799
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: like that? I don't think. So, I see what you're saying.

800
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: So if you look, if you were looking at this

801
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: huge mountain. Maybe there's acorns all across the top of

802
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: that mountain for ten miles, and every single spot you

803
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: pop onto, you're not gonna find bears. There's gonna be

804
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: certain places that you're gonna find what I'm talking about.

805
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: And I don't I think it's just I don't know

806
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 1: if it's just how it goes you alright, alright, So well, okay,

807
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: So in the early season in the Southeast, and I

808
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: guess as we talked about this, I keep talking about

809
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: the Southeast because it is different. Bears are doing the

810
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: same thing everywhere. We talked about this before, James. I mean,

811
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: a bear in in Montana and the fall is doing

812
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: the exact same thing as a bear in Arkansas, Georgia, Virginia,

813
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: North Carolina. In the fall, they're trying to stuff their

814
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: bellies full food. Okay, that's what they're trying to do.

815
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: So I went to Montana. I'm gonna you need to

816
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: know what the food sources. Yeah, and you'd be looking

817
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: for blueberries. I mean, like Montana season wouldn't go very

818
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: long into the fall because it gets so cold up there,

819
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I think it probably just goes

820
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: through the end of September or something. But I mean, yeah,

821
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: you're looking for berries, and that bear is gonna be

822
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. He's gonna find a berry patch

823
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: and he's gonna pound it until it's gone. So you

824
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: gotta find that berry patch for For for our analogies,

825
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about why okacren ridges um broken branches

826
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: out of trees. Yep, that's a in the early season,

827
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: bears will eat acorns before they fall. Okay, so there's

828
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: a point in the fall when white oak acorns and

829
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: acorns begin to fall on their own, you know. And

830
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: typically that's when animals eat them. That's when deer eat

831
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: acorns because can't climb. A bar can climb a tree

832
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: like a squirrel, and he will tiptoe like a ballerina

833
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: out onto these branches and eat acorns off that tree

834
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: like a wizard. I mean, it's amazing to see it

835
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: and to think that they can, these big, huge animals

836
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: are doing this, but they do, and they'll they'll go

837
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: out and break branches. I mean, and and this is

838
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: not you. If you find this, you've found something special.

839
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: But they do this all the time. But again, it's

840
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: not you're not just gonna walk out and find it,

841
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: but like the ridge top that's just I mean, restep

842
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: you take. You're seeing broken branches, broken branches, broke, I

843
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: mean just branches as big as your thumb to even

844
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: a little bit bigger, just snapped. And uh that's early

845
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: season though, before the acrons are falling, so that would

846
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: be pretty much during September. Usually by October acrons are falling.

847
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: So trails, broken branches, bear scout, rolled logs, which those

848
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: are less relevant because you're gonna find rolled logs for

849
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: long periods of time afterwards. But that does tell you

850
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: that there's a bear in the area. So you might

851
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: see a rolled log in the fall, don't set up

852
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: your tree stand and hunt that thing. If you find

853
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,959
Speaker 1: a rolled log with fresh bear scout, then there's two

854
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 1: points of data. But you know, we could walk out

855
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: just about anywhere and find old bear sign of rolled

856
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: logs and rocks, rolled rocks. They're rolling rocks grubbing and

857
00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: looking for ants and stuff. And uh, the you can

858
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: tell how old rock roll is based upon the liking

859
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: on top of the rock. I mean, like if you

860
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: look at, uh, like this picture James behind my bear

861
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: here all these rocks, and those rocks are the liking

862
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: and mosses growing on those things in an equal way. Man,

863
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: if one of those rocks gets flipped over, it looks

864
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: like a neon sign flashing on the side of that mountain,

865
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: because that buried part of that rock all of a

866
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: sudden is exposed. And so you can go over there

867
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: and get a you can get a pretty good data

868
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: point of how long ago it was that a bear

869
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: was standing over that rock flipping it over. So you know,

870
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: that tells you there's at least a bear around. Um.

871
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: Bears love to eat yellow jacket ness in the fall.

872
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: It seems like I've heard that before too. They eat

873
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: the heck out of them. You don't even realize how

874
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: many yellow jacketness there are until you go walking through

875
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: the woods and see where the bears are digging them up.

876
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: I guess they're eating the larvae. I guess they. I've

877
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: never studied it, but apparently the larvae maybe over winter

878
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: because they're they're larvae in the ground in the fall.

879
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: I would assume that they overwinter and then come out

880
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: in the spring. The wast larvae or yellow jack at

881
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: larvae or whatever. They'll eat the heck out of them.

882
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean they'll dig a hole. Okay, okay, alright, So

883
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: so we've got different kinds of sign to look for. Um,

884
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: we've we've found the sign. So we're we're in the

885
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: hot zone. All right. We came ready to hunt. We're

886
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: using our best white tail hunting tactics. So we're trying

887
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: to avoid you know, the wind and all that kind

888
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: of stuff. Are we gonna are we gonna sit on

889
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: the ground? We need to get up a tree? Do

890
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: we need to walk around? All three? Now, it all

891
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: depends upon the amount of concentration and sign and what

892
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: what weapon you're using. Um, if you're if if I

893
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: were using a muzzleloader, Let's say there's a muzzloader season

894
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: and you found some hot bear sign. Man, with that

895
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: longer distance weapon, you could sit back a little bit further.

896
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: I mean I usually find myself wanting to hunt off

897
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 1: the ground when I have a musloader. Um, I actually don't,

898
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: now that I think about it. I rarely tree stand

899
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: hunt in situations like that. Bears are stalkable on the

900
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: ground when they're eating, they really are they. So if

901
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: you if let's say you find this, let's say you

902
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: found a saddle. A saddle would be a low spot

903
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: on a ridge where animals cross, that's got acorns, it's

904
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: got trails, and it's got bear scat. I mean, I'd

905
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: probably go in on the down wind side and you know,

906
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: maybe build a little brush blind and just sit on

907
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: the ground mainly to get a I just feel like

908
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: I'm locked in when I'm up in a tree and

909
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: at the same time at the same time, though, you

910
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: would be much more concealed with your scent and movement

911
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: being in a tree. So if it's just like ultra

912
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: sign that is like in this twenty yard block, like yeah,

913
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: maybe you need to be in a tree stand and

914
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: you can find sign that that is that specific like

915
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,479
Speaker 1: he gonna be right here. Or it might be more

916
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: like there's just bears using this ridge top for this

917
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: quarter mile section, and that's real likely. It's like just

918
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 1: in this section there's quite a bit of bear sign.

919
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: So maybe you need to start, you know, at four

920
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon with a wind in your face,

921
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: just slipping down, you know, timing your movement so that

922
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: you will finish about dark on the other side of

923
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: that bear sign. Something like that. Because now if a

924
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: bear is traveling just with his head up, just moving.

925
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he can see you just like me, or

926
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 1: you can see him. So how good are their eyesight?

927
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: That was well there, their eyesight is as good as

928
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: they want it to be. They you know, biologically, they

929
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: see just about like us see color, they can see movement.

930
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: They're very similar to us on their ability to see.

931
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: But because they're an apex predator, they're easily distracted because

932
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: they're not that afraid of stuff. And so what I

933
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: found is when they're feeding, you can slip right up

934
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: to them. And in western spot and stock guys would

935
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: know that. But but even in the crunchy deciduous forest,

936
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: you can stalk them a lot better than you think.

937
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: If they've got their head and a pile of acorns

938
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, you can get within bow range

939
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: of them if the wind is right. Now, if the

940
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: wind is wrong, you're dead. You probably spooking bears that

941
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 1: you never even saw. Or if they're in an area

942
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: where there's grizzly, right, what doesn't a black bear act

943
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: different in an area where there's well, there's a lot

944
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: of speculation on that. I mean, historically people would say, oh,

945
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: you'll never see a black bear, whether you see it grizzly,

946
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: but people do all the time. They do act different.

947
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: They're more spooky, for sure. But the only place that

948
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: would be happening in the lower forty eight would just

949
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: be in that Yellowstone region, so not too it wouldn't

950
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: be something very common to bounce into, you know, except

951
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 1: just right out there. But yeah, they do act different. Okay,

952
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: so we're gonna, we're gonna. So you could slip, you

953
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: could tree stand hunt. If the sign was ultra concentrated,

954
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: you could I call it slip hunting, just where you

955
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: just kind of slipping through. Or you could build a

956
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: ground blind in a safe place. And I wouldn't go

957
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: set up a ground blind, no, I mean like a

958
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,479
Speaker 1: man made ground blind. I mean a lot of people

959
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: hunt out of those these days, and yeah they're good

960
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 1: for deer and turkeys and stuff. But a bear would well,

961
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't. I don't think he'd tolerated. He'd come

962
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: over and maybe chew it up. You'd use it as

963
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 1: bait to get him in your lab. Maybe I think

964
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: it would spook him at first, and he'd come back

965
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: in at night and tear it up. Yeah, Yeah, that

966
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, okay, so we've we've found founding area

967
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: we want to hunt. We know how we're going to

968
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 1: go through there. Um, we we had success. Let's go ahead.

969
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and we'll we'll skip the part where

970
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: you've covered pretty well in other episodes. You know how

971
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: to where to shoot and things like that. Yeah, we

972
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: do have some good podcasts about shot placement and stuff

973
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: where we talked for an hour about just about place. Yeah,

974
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: so let's we've killed the bear. We've killed the bear.

975
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: Now what do I need to have in my pack?

976
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: First of all, Um, you know this is my first

977
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: time out there. I'm great at going out and taking

978
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: care of deer. I can pack a deer out. What

979
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: do I need to have in my pack that's different

980
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: than that for a bear? Right? Good question. I think

981
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: that would be the biggest question that people maybe get

982
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: stumped by or a little bit intimidated by. You've got

983
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: this animal on the ground. It's usually pretty warm in

984
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: the fall wherever you're at, so you you know, it's

985
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: not like you're it's a November December hind So you

986
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: gotta take care of this animal relatively quickly, and you

987
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: got to get him out. Um, The thing is is

988
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: that most bears aren't over two hundred pounds. I mean,

989
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: if you kill a five hundred pound bear, yeah, you

990
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: got a chore on your hands. Most likely you're not

991
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: gonna kill a five Okay, most of the time, you're

992
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: gonna kill an animal that's just a little bit bigger

993
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: than a big deer. Okay, So think about it like that.

994
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: This really isn't much bigger than a deer, and it's

995
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: no different. Skinning a four legged haired animal is the

996
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: exact same, no matter what animal it is. If you

997
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: skin a squirrel, if you skinn of deer, if you

998
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: skin a bear, you're gonna cut around his feet, You're

999
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: gonna come down his arms. I mean, you're gonna you're

1000
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: gonna peel the hide off of that animal, just the

1001
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: same as you would anything. I mean, and I'm simplifying

1002
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: it for the purpose of giving people confidence, but it's true.

1003
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna gut that animal just like a deer. And

1004
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: there's other resources that talk about how to feel dressing animal. Okay,

1005
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: but it's no big deal. Anybody can do it. Anybody

1006
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: can do it that's got a good sharp knife. Um.

1007
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,439
Speaker 1: So that's my short version is that it's just like

1008
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: anything else. A bear has four quarters, a bear has backstraps,

1009
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: a bear has inner tender ones, a bear has a

1010
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: rib cage, a bear has neck meat. A deer has

1011
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: all those same cups, and all of that stuff is

1012
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: just as good to grab and and get. I mean,

1013
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: you want all of that meat that you can. And two,

1014
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: in terms of equipment, you don't need anything different than

1015
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: you would if you were killing a white tail back

1016
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: in there and trying to pack it out. And and

1017
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: you know a lot of situations, maybe you kill an

1018
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: animal close enough of the road that you can get

1019
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: it out whole. I mean, so let's just say you

1020
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: can get it in the back of your truck with

1021
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: a couple of buddies. And I mean, you know, I

1022
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: more power to you. You can take it to a

1023
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: process or and have somebody else do it. I mean,

1024
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: I I love I think processing your own game. I

1025
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: feel dressing it is a big part of it. But

1026
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: you know, let's just say there's a guy that that

1027
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: is you know, if you can get it out the whole,

1028
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: you can you can take it let somebody else do it.

1029
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: That's an option. That is an option. Um, but um.

1030
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: And then if you get it out the whole. Uh.

1031
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: I like to skin a bear on the ground. You'll

1032
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: never see me hang a bear in a tree to

1033
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: skin it. I can skin a bear on the ground.

1034
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: I take pride and how fast I can skin one

1035
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: on the ground. Um, I don't like to hang them up.

1036
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: I just you just I did that for the first

1037
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: time with a deer this past fall. Just always, you know,

1038
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: the way I learned it was always hanging and I

1039
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: kind of liked it better on the ground actually, So

1040
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: I could see that just being easier. It's what you know.

1041
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: If that's what you know, then that's what you do.

1042
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I could see that just being easier

1043
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: to work at your not how even you're not having

1044
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: to worry about grabbing another hand, you know, for holding

1045
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: the bear. You know, you kind of gotta get them

1046
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: rolled on their back and spread out and uh so

1047
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: it helps to have another hand. But you know, you

1048
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: just need a sharp knife that you can preferably resharpen.

1049
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if I were just telling somebody

1050
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: what they would need, I would say, go get a

1051
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: have a lin you know, knife with replaceable scalpel blades.

1052
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: Get about two of those, and you can skin all

1053
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: the bears in the country. Um, but just a sharp knife.

1054
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: Potentially game bags if you're gonna be hauling, if you're

1055
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: killing an animal way back in, they're gonna be hauling

1056
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: it out. You can use uh these white uh cotton

1057
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: game bags that you take the quarters and get the

1058
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: quarters in and then you can put those inside of

1059
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: a backpack. And you'd be surprised at two pound bear

1060
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 1: by the time you quartered out. Um, two guys could

1061
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: easily haul that out in one trip. Okay, honestly, one

1062
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: guy could probably haul it out on one trip. Because

1063
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get a hundred pounds of meat out

1064
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: of a two pound bear. Um, it's probably like thirty yield. Yeah,

1065
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: would be a little bit more. I mean, cause you're

1066
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: gonna be carrying carrying the hide out and skull out

1067
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: as well. But you kill a twohnder pound bear, you're

1068
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: gonna be hauling out, you know, probably way out with

1069
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: a hide in the head. You know you're gonna be

1070
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: hauling out a hundred pounds or more. But you know,

1071
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: so two guys or two trips if you're alone, two

1072
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: trips back in there, no big deal, No big deal. Uh.

1073
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: And and here's the biggest question too, is that bear

1074
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: meat is excellent meat. A lot of people have who

1075
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: really haven't used it very much, would have had some

1076
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: kind of negative experience or heard negative things about bear meat. Man,

1077
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: bear meat is incredible. I mean, actually, the more I

1078
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: use it, the more I realize how good it is. Um.

1079
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: I recently just cooked straight up bear burgers, just ground

1080
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: bear meat, put some Montreal steak seasoning on the top

1081
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: and bottom pretty heavy. This seasons up pretty good, just

1082
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: because I like heavy season not to hide anything. We

1083
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: had my wife's school. All the teachers came over, women teachers,

1084
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: most of them. They loved that bear meat. I'm not exaggerating.

1085
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: Two Twice in the last three weeks we've had guests

1086
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: from like not hunters. They had no reason to like it, James,

1087
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: no read, they had no bias to like it. You say,

1088
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: if you kill something, you want to like it, you know,

1089
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: so like didn't count. It makes it more tasty, for sure.

1090
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't count if I'm like, bear meat's good, but oh,

1091
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: it's it's good good. It's even though a bear is fatty,

1092
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: it's relatively lean meat as compared to beef. Even I mean,

1093
01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, you can mix in a lot of fat

1094
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: with it, but you would use bear bear meat just

1095
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: like you would use any other red meat. Anything that

1096
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: you use red meat for, you would use it for

1097
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: bear or you would bear the same way. So along

1098
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: those lines, and one of the things that I wanted

1099
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: to ask about was trick and ella. So you know,

1100
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: I think most people know, and they might even be

1101
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: some bias against that. It's like, Okay, you know, we

1102
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: can't eat bear meat because it might give us tricking

1103
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: nosis or whatever. So just talk me through that a

1104
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: little bit. You know, Am I going to get it

1105
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: when I'm cleaning the bear or um? You know, what's

1106
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: the situation? You You treat bear meat as if it

1107
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: has it just like you do pork. I mean, probably

1108
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: less so these days, but when we were growing up

1109
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: and kids even more so. I mean it's like man,

1110
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: watch out for port. It's the same today. But basically

1111
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: they there is no more trick and nella inside of

1112
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: uh commercial swine. They kind of got rid of it

1113
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: just through good health practices and farming and stuff. But

1114
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: bears are carriers carriers of trick and ella. It's easy.

1115
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: Trick and ella dies at like a hundred forty five degrees.

1116
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: The U s D A minimum meat temperature for chicken, pork, beef,

1117
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: and everything else is a hundred and sixty degrees. So

1118
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: everything that we cook, even if you don't know and

1119
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: you're cooking something on accident, I promise you you're cooking

1120
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: it above a hundred and sixty degrees. I mean you're

1121
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: that's like minimum internal temperature. Tricknella dies before the one forties,

1122
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: so it's super easy to kill by heat. Okay, some

1123
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: trick an Ella is killed by freezing, but not all,

1124
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: so you can't count on that. So if you if

1125
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: you freeze it, that doesn't count. Um. But yeah, you

1126
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: don't want to get tricknella. Yeah it won't kill you.

1127
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: Tricknella won't It wouldn't kill you, but you don't want

1128
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: to get it, So that that is a concern, and

1129
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,439
Speaker 1: you you if you just have just the smallest amount

1130
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: of precaution, it's a non issue. The non issue. You

1131
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: wear gloves when you're I've never wore a pair of

1132
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: gloves in my life. When I skinned the bear, if

1133
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: you had a big cut on your finger, and uh,

1134
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: and what you can do with those? Have aalon knives

1135
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: pretty easily. You know, I've had open cuts on my

1136
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: hands when I have skinned a bear, and I just

1137
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: washed the fire out of my hands afterwards. I would

1138
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,479
Speaker 1: have done the same thing with the deer. I would

1139
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: have done the same thing if I had been skinning

1140
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: a turkey. I mean, you know sometimes when you're hunting, Yeah,

1141
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: you get skinned up and you gotta you know, get

1142
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: a briar on you, and so yeah, you just have

1143
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: you just take care of that cut and you'll be fine.

1144
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: But you could get it. You could get it from

1145
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: an open cut on your hand, and then skinning a bear,

1146
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: you absolutely could. Can you Is there tests for it?

1147
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean, can you send it off? Can you send

1148
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: a sample somewhere to get it tested? I'm sure there is.

1149
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: It's not common. I mean, this is the way I

1150
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: understand it is that pretty much every bear is gonna

1151
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: have it, okay, I mean, just playing on it being

1152
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: there and respond accordingly. In in the amount of trick

1153
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: and ella cases in the US that people get from

1154
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: bear his minuscule. I mean, people do get it, but

1155
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: it's always from some irresponsible scenario. Uh. And there's there's

1156
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: good well known I mean, you know, our friends Steve Rinella,

1157
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: trick and Ella. It was I mean they were in

1158
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: the back country and just cook this meat and it

1159
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: was undercooked, you know, I mean that kind of stuff happens,

1160
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: and they all nobody died, They just got tricknella. So

1161
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: it's it's it's really a non issue with just a

1162
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: little bit of care, you know. Okay, Well, we've got

1163
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: our bear, We've got him on the ground. What about

1164
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: as we closed that, what what if we talked about

1165
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: what to do with the hide? Oh yeah, that's okay.

1166
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: I didn't want to ask that because so you said

1167
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna carry the hide and the skull out, So

1168
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, do you have to I guess every state

1169
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be different on how you have to check it,

1170
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: That's right. So you would always want to leave evidence

1171
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: of sex on any animal that you killed, if you

1172
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: had to butcher in the back country, you'd leave a

1173
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: standard procedure. So let's just say we can take the

1174
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: we can take the We've got the hide in the

1175
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: in the skull out. So what are we gonna do

1176
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: with it? Well, you're gonna want to keep that hide

1177
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: and skull as cool as possible. It'll be. I'm just

1178
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: gonna throw out some numbers here. But let's say it's

1179
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: sixty degrees when you kill the bear at five o'clock

1180
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: in the evening on a fall day, you don't retrieve

1181
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:49,439
Speaker 1: the bear until ten o'clock that night. Um, well, let's

1182
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: let's say you don't retreat the bear until the next morning.

1183
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: Kind of got down into the fifties. You better skin

1184
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: that bear pretty quick the next day, but it would

1185
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: probably be fine. Uh. They bear does go uh go

1186
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: bad a little bit quicker than an ungulate for whatever reason.

1187
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: They will they'll they'll they'll spoil a little bit quicker.

1188
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: But you know, so if you leave one overnight, you

1189
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: need to take care of it pretty quick. But the hide,

1190
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: you just want to keep it cool, and you'll take

1191
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: that hide off. I mean, that's for another it's not

1192
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: even for a podcast. Watch some videos on how to

1193
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: cape a bear. We've got videos on how to cape

1194
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: a bear. Bear Hunting Magazine YouTube channel, some of our vlogs. Um,

1195
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: so we maybe we'll find a link and put that

1196
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: in there, cobe. Uh. But so you're gonna take this

1197
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: hide out, and I don't know anybody that's tanning their

1198
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: own bear hides. You're gonna take it to a text

1199
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: germist and you're gonna have them professionally tanned, and and

1200
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: and the cheapest way to handle a bear hide is

1201
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: just to get it, uh, buckskin tanned. Just take that

1202
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: thing in an ice chest or from you know, get

1203
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: it in a freezer as quick as possible. You're gonna

1204
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: wanna You're not gonna want to bawl it up and

1205
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: put it in a freezer because think about the installation

1206
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: on that bear high, So the very inside of it,

1207
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: it's gonna be days before. So a lot of bear

1208
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: hides get run by guys that ball up their bear

1209
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 1: high and put it in the freezer and they think, oh,

1210
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm good, it's in the freezer. Well, it's three days

1211
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: before the center of that thing gets frozen. So it right,

1212
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: it'll sour and we'll go rancid. And so kind of

1213
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: spread it out a little bit, let it cool for

1214
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: about thirty forty minutes in that freezer, and then before

1215
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: it freezes, then ball it up so it's evenly cooled

1216
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: all the way across. That makes sense, yea perfect sense,

1217
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: And just take it, take it to a text ARUs

1218
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: and say I want to I want to buckskin tan

1219
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: and they'll charge you thirty dollars a foot or something

1220
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: For a five ft bear, it will cost you, I

1221
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: don't know, two or something and it it'll end up

1222
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 1: being tu and then and you can mount the bear.

1223
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want with it. I mean,

1224
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: you could spend a lot of money on a bear.

1225
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: That's a big thing that I hear people say it's

1226
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: like financial concerns with killing a bear. Yeah, but you

1227
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: know there's no laws that so you haven't even have

1228
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: to keep the hide, Okay, like that's not I mean,

1229
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: the only regulation is that you keep the meat, you know,

1230
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, yeah, but I think everybody if you

1231
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: kill a bear, man, you better you better tann a hide. Yeah,

1232
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: I mean that. You know, people can throw that dirty

1233
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: word around, but as hunters, we like to have keepsakes

1234
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: from what we kill. Heck, yeah, you know, man, bear

1235
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: hides are beautiful. They're there, great, great, they're beautiful, beautiful trophies,

1236
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: memory activators, rugs, keepsakes, conversation starters. You know what. I

1237
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: find a lot of non hunters like bear bear hides. Yeah.

1238
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: I have a lot of people that have that have

1239
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: been really interested in my bear high. It's like wanting one. Yeah, oh,

1240
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: I believe it. I mean we talked about that in

1241
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: my house. My wife's not a hunter, and wouldn't a

1242
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't a bear skin rug look good right here from

1243
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: the fireplace? Blah blah blah. I mean she's almost me

1244
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: the permission to do it. Yeah, I mean, not that

1245
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: I need her permission to do that kind of stuff,

1246
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: but you know it's almost like she's, yeah, well and

1247
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 1: she's not real keen on the you know, the deer

1248
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: amounts that we have up there, So hey, you need

1249
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: you need, you need to kill a bear? Well to

1250
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: help you You're you're you're educating me and bringing me

1251
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: along and and which I greatly appreciate. We've got to

1252
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: find time in my calendar to get out there. And

1253
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: it's just like anything in life. You know, you've got

1254
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: to find time in your calendar to go out and

1255
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: do the things that you love. Well, the cool thing

1256
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: about the state you live then, is that you go

1257
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: on a deer bear hunt, you know what I mean.

1258
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: So it's not you have not I'm not gonna say

1259
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: a great chance of success on either one of those,

1260
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,600
Speaker 1: but it's fun to go on a combo hunt. Me

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Speaker 1: That's the funnest thing is to go in the big

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01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: woods and just be ready for anything. Yeah, man, be

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01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: ready for anything and a lot of time. And wherever

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01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: the feed is, that's where deer gonna be too, So

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01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 1: you could find deer in the same areas you're gonna

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01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: find bear. Absolutely gotta do it, all right, that's just

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01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: put one more thing on that bucket list, One more man,

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01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: one more Well, all right, we've okay. So we started

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01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: from what we didn't even know where bears were, and

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01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: we went all the way taking a hide to the

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01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 1: text dervist. That's how it's supposed to be done, right,

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01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: It's the full gamut, right, and in what an hour

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01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: and ten minutes or so? You know, everybody should be

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01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 1: well educated. Now, No, this is good. Any other any

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01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: other thoughts? You know? The only other thing that I

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01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,600
Speaker 1: was gonna say that I as I was going to

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01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: ask you about was when we were well, we kind

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01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: of talked about sight and smell and hearing was the

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01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: other thing. You kind of touched on that already, so

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01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't think we need to go too much into that.

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01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 1: And I was gonna ask you, how do I know

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01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 1: what kind of bear I want? To shoot. I mean,

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01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,799
Speaker 1: how do I know if I want to shoot that bear? Okay,

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01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: I found a bear, But do I want that bear?

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01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 1: That's a that's gonna be a maybe a subject for

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01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: a different podcast. We have a podcast on judging black

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01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: bears where we nerd out for a long time, hour

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01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: and a half probably talking about judging bears. And that's

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01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: a good resource. It really is like I almost want

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01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: to go back and listen to it. Uh uh yeah,

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01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: because bears are hard to judge. But from a regulation standpoint,

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01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: most states, you know, just you know, you're not supposed

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01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: to shoot a South cubs because that's general rule everywhere

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01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: you're hunting bears, is that you want to be able

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01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 1: to look at a bear long enough to recognize if

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01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: it's alone, and it's and and if if she's got

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01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 1: young cubs, those cubs will be close. Okay. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's just general rules. So you can't shoot a South

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01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: with cubs and uh and there's some regulations about weight

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01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: in some places, and Arkansas there's not you know, but uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I don't even want to say because

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01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but I mean there's some places where

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01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: it's like you're not supposed to shoot a bear under

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01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 1: seventy five pounds or something, which that should be pretty obvious. Yeah,

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01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: you're if you see a bear that's about as big

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01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: as a half grown Labrador retriever, you're not gonna want

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01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 1: to shoot it. I might mistake it for a laboratory retriever. Yeah, okay,

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01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: oh man, I think we've we've hit We've left some

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01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: some things undiscussed or probably just scratch the surface in

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01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 1: some areas. But that'll be the great place for people

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01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 1: to come and ask us questions. Remind them again where

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01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna be. All right, So we're gonna be on

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01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: Facebook August any nights seven pm Central Time on the

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01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: back Country Hunters and Anglers Southeast Chapter Facebook page. Right,

1315
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: so you just get on Facebook and search for Southeast

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01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: Chapter of back Country Hunters and Anglers. It will pop

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01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: right up and um, if you're not a member of

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01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 1: that particular page, then asked to join, and some of

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01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: our generous page administrators will evaluate your requests and get

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01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 1: that all set up. So we can do that, and

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01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: you know, I guess people could even submit questions before

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01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 1: then we loaded with some questions and they could they

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01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: could email info at bear dash hunting dot com, Bear

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01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: info at bear hyphen hunting dot com. Yeah, if you

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01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: had just some questions on your mind right away, or

1326
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: Instagram US or you know, private messages on Facebook, Instagram,

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01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: there's a thousand ways. But if we came in preloaded

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01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: with a couple of questions from this podcast, that would

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01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: be good. But now, I think sometimes people well are

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01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: intimidated by bear. But here's something we gotta say before

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01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: we end our bears dangerous. Oh yeah, that was on

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01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: my list and I was like, man, yeah, I mean,

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01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 1: most people that are gonna have been have hunted much

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01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: at all, are gonna know that black bears are really

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01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: just not that dangerous. I mean, you're not gonna be

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Speaker 1: walking out in the woods and a bear attack you.

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01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just not gonna happen. But you did

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01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: say that we're gonna try to be quiet, We're gonna

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01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: slip along. So if we're doing our job right and

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01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: staying staying down wind of them, there's always that chance

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01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: that we could surprise one. And the worst one to

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01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: surprise would be a sal with cubs. Yeah, so real quick,

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01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 1: what do we do in that situation? I mean, let's

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01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 1: cover it real quick run like a girl scout. Hope

1345
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: that you run faster than your body now, you know, yeah,

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01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,799
Speaker 1: that is probably you know, my good buddy Most Shepherd

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01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: that we did a podcast with Moe has actually been

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01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say attacked, but he had his bow

1349
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 1: chewed on by a bear that he was poking in

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01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 1: the face. Uh, super rare situation. I mean, ultra rare,

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01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: but it did happen like twenty miles from here. He

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01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 1: he was walking in the fall long a ridge top

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01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: spooked two cubs, cubs of the year, you know, young

1354
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: look look like footballs, and they ran up a tree

1355
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: right beside him. You know, he just came up on him. Bam.

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01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 1: They ran up a tree and started chattering and making noise.

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01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: And then Mama just rushes in sees Mo standing there,

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01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: and she absolutely just like an attacking dog, just comes in,

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01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 1: wolfing and popping, and and he was backpeddling and poking

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01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: that bear in the nose with his recurved bow. And finally,

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01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: you know, he just backed up and he was hollering

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01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 1: and yelling and kicking, and I think he actually even

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01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: kicked the bear. Moill have to get Most. I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: I drew a picture of it ten years ago for

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01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: a magazine article that I did on it. Yeah, I've

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01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: got a picture of most Shephard fighting a bear with

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01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: his boat. That's a really rare situation. I mean, godly,

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01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 1: if you see a sala cubs, just duck your head

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01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: and just get the heck out of just back out

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01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 1: of there slowly, or try to scare it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that would probably be my initial response if a south

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Speaker 1: bear started charging me, I'd probably holler and scream at

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01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: it and throw my arms and I mean, she's she's

1374
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 1: not gonna attack you, Okay, all right, she did attack

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01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 1: mo though. Yeah. But in general, there's no reason to

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01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 1: be afraid of bears. Now, if you're out west and

1377
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: then grizzly bear country, that's another podcast. But there's only

1378
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: that's not that's a whole another podcast. Grizzly bears are dangerous.

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01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: Black bears are typically not all right, Well cool, I

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01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 1: think I think we've covered the high points, left some good,

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01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 1: left some ground to ply. Well, we'll see everybody on

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01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 1: Thursday twenty nine. There are people that want to be involved, Kobe.

1383
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 1: What do we always say, you gotta keep those wild

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01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: places as well, because that's where the Bears live. And

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01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 1: there was a long pause. There we are, You're waiting

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01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: for me to finish. I'm trying to beat it. Well yeah,

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01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: but then I was trying to get my brain my

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01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,560
Speaker 1: brand boys, the wild places wild because that's where the

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Speaker 1: Bears live. Ye