1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, GMFP is presented by Old Trapper Jerky. Thanks to 2 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: our friends there for hooking us up for the sponsorship 3 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: on the entire show, which we loved, our friends and 4 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: partners over at Old Trapper. As we sit here in 5 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: the Nueva York Tuesday, November twenty Jermy and a lot 6 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: of you are traveling. Maybe some of you've never seen 7 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: this before. This is GMFB. I'm Kay Adams, this is 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Brant, That's Peter Schrager, and that is Super Bowl 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: champion Sean O'Hara, who's kind of super sales this morning. 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: Kyle tell him why because the Giants lost a gentle Yes, 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: let's get into it right now. Supper Sales nineteen seventies 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: radio hosts Kay and I think that, Yeah, that was 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: a crazy reference from you, is it? Doesn't it mean 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: somebody who said, I don't know it's a radio host 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: from the seventies, really Tom Brady, Yes, you know that 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: was born in the super Sales is like a radio legend. 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: How I thought the same thing as Debbie down right now, 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: Maybe it's become to me and that's way I don't know. 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: I think such sales has a heart in um in 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: dirty dancing. I'm not kid. I think he's like the 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: MSc on the stage thirty to ten. The Giants deserve 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: no better. By the way, I was a rough night 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: for the Giants and their quarterbacks. And you just go 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 1: back to tell the prompter. Let's hear what Daniel Jones 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: had to say after the game. I know, as players, um, 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: certainly myself you know, feel responsible for for how we 27 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: played and executed. And that's on that's on me, that's 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: on us to do better. I think, um, you know, 29 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: we were put in position, uh to make plays, and 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: we've got to make them, um, you know, and that 31 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: certainly starts with me. We'll go back and look at 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: what happened, look how we can improve and move forward 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: as a team. So, um you know, that's certainly my 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: focus is to look at, um, you know, how I 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: played tonight and uh you know, correct things I didn't 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: do well and uh, move on, move Not the best 37 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: night for Daniel Jones. He's oh and eight, you guys, 38 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: he's not one in prime time. He's got just eleven 39 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: wins in his career with the New York Giants. To 40 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: use your reference, it's been a long time since we 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: were talking about the Giants and Odell Jennifer graying into 42 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: it Eli's arms like dirty dancing. It's been a long 43 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: time since they feel good moments with this team. How 44 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: do we feel about Daniel Jones his future with the 45 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: Giants and just the Giants in general? Shrikes, Yeah, it's 46 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: still on soupy sales over here. Sorry, that's all right. 47 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: What's funny about that reference of that commercial? I got 48 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: to talk to Euli once. He said that when they 49 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: shot that commercial, O'Dell had never seen dirty dancing, had 50 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: no idea what they were doing, completely out of contact. 51 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: How perfect is that? Yeah, no, it is. And that's 52 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: how it felt last night, like it was just the 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: different time in place because Parcels is on the Manning cast. Yeah, 54 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: we got Bill Parcels, legendary Giants. You know, coach obviously 55 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: won Super Bowls in eighty six and ninety with the Giants, 56 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: and you're watching this just floundering Giants team with no 57 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: spear it and no hard and I'm calling out like 58 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: really like serious thinks it when I'm like, yeah, I'm 59 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: trying time like win one game in front of and 60 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: there's Parcels and he's and you're like could Parcels go? 61 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: He's eighty years old? Could he get on outside? Like? 62 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: Could he? Is that what it takes because giantstre to 63 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: this point are at their last last resort on like 64 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: what can we do? I'm watching my sa Quan's back 65 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: all right and Beta ban is out and it's like, 66 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: can sa Quon get going? This is the number two 67 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: overall pick and we've got this offensive line. There's all 68 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: this money spent on and squand nothing. Last night it 69 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: wasn't even like, you know, I don't know who's you 70 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: blame him or you blame the game plan? Where do 71 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: you want to go down the list? Do you want 72 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: to really blame Daniel Jones? Daniel Jones is taking a 73 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: beating back there. Daniel Jones is doing and saying everything right, 74 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: like could you blame Daniel Jones? Of course he could 75 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: blame Daniel Jones. He's a quarterback of another losing team. 76 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: But you want to blame Joe Judge, you can do 77 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: that today there's mismanagement on the clock and some you know, 78 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: decisions late. You can met Jason Garrett. I mean, I've 79 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: got Giants fans texting me, like does Jason Garrett's keycards 80 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: still work tomorrow morning, Like what what is this? And 81 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: it's who do you want to blame? And I feel 82 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: bad at the end of the day. It's like Giants fans, 83 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's another lost season. I can't pin it 84 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: on Daniel Jones. He's just one of many players and 85 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: could he maybe somehow come out of this thing and 86 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: be fine? Maybe? Or is this a Sam Bradford situation 87 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: with the Jets where it was like there was just 88 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: too much damage, too much scarring, And it's like the 89 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: fan base wants to start a new and maybe it's 90 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: best for him to move on to I don't know. 91 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: It's hard to wake up this morning and do anything 92 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: but talk about soupy sales because there was nothing positive 93 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: about the Giants last night. Sup sales best thing to 94 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: happen to the show, shreig Gen's business. You know, the 95 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: axe is gonna fall like, it's just I don't know 96 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: what the Giants, how many toilets are coming with it? 97 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: And Kyle you mentioned not seeing a movie with dirty dancing, 98 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: But for Giants fans, we've seen this movie too many times. 99 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: It's year in the year out. It's the same damn movie. 100 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: I remember sitting here at this breakfast table with you 101 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: guys three years ago, right, and we were talking about 102 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: it's Elis Sale, right, Yeah, it's Helis Fall. Oh he's 103 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: a bumb he let's it, he's walhed up. Dania Jones, 104 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: bring us the new guy. Guess what. Fast forward three 105 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: years later, we're having the same conversation about Daniel Jones. 106 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: Now maybe the quarterback isn't the issue. Look I'm with 107 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: I like Daniel Jones. I like his personality. I think 108 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: he's got what it takes. I think he's a tough kid. 109 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: I think he can do things that Eli can never do. 110 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: He can do things that other quarterbacks can't do. But 111 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: it's also what's got him in trouble. And I think 112 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: last night the one thing Daniel Jones couldn't do was 113 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: make that error, make that awful interception that you just say, oh, like, 114 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: we can't get it because to your point of shrikes, 115 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: if he doesn't make that throw right there, the awful 116 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: throw to Steve mcclennon, that interception. Now you're talking about 117 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: other things, but it just keeps coming back to that. 118 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: This offene just broken, and that to me is the 119 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: biggest thing with here, and you can put any quarterback 120 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: you want in this offense right now, you're not going 121 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: to succeed. Tom Brady himself would struggle with this offense 122 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: right now because they're dysfunctional. They can't finish drives in 123 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: the red zone. Bill Parcels was on The Manicast last 124 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: night and he talked about Look. His saying was he 125 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: would tell his quarterbacks just don't mess it up. I 126 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 1: got a great defense. It's your job, just don't mess 127 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: it up. I think I think the Giant things would 128 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: like to get back to that. It sucks because that interception. 129 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna show that's so much in the off season. 130 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: And I mean we, I just mean the media, Like 131 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: that's how the media works. That is the postcard that 132 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: they will show over and over. I don't know if 133 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 1: the ax is gonna fall. I saw a bad gift 134 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: this morning about Jason Garrett and it was Tommy from 135 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: Goodfellows walking in the room to be made. You know, like, 136 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to go down that way. 137 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: But this is where I look at. I look at 138 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: the last offseason and this is how we did it. 139 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: This week, a lot of people are going out and 140 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: buying all kinds of crazy groceries that they don't need, 141 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: are not gonna use, and they're all gonna go bad. 142 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: Let's look back at the Giants off season grocery list 143 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: that we hyped for six months. Here we go Savontae Booker, 144 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: he started four games in place of sa Quon average 145 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: less than four yards of carry. Kenny Galladay, a big 146 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: free agent signing, has missed three games, average forty six 147 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: yards per game and has fewer touchdowns than the left 148 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: tackle of the team. Kadarius Tony has more ejections than touchdowns. 149 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: Had an incredible hundred and ninety six yard performance and 150 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: it hasn't had more than forty yards since. John Ross 151 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: the Third hasn't caught a passing this week. Eight Kyle Rudolph, 152 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: We love him, great veteran. The average is about fourteen 153 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: yards a game. This is the groceries they bought. Dorry 154 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: Jackson and Gary Jackson was on. It's just like this 155 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: is why we spent the office and being like this 156 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: can work, they can rally by Daniel Jones. They went 157 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: and got they got the groceries aren't working. They're all rotten. 158 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: They made bad choices and not just in them. I 159 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: don't know if Sakon is a good choice. I don't know. 160 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: I Daniel Jones is good. There's a lot of bad 161 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: choices for no access to fall, you know what I'm saying. 162 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: They just feel like they're behind every other team that 163 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: is built as a contender a little bit. And we 164 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: have so many sound bites that were inundated with day in, 165 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: day out, week in week out, year in year out. 166 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: But I'm very it's very rare that I'll like latch 167 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: on to one. And that John Mara. It was John Mara. 168 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: It was after all of these free agent grocery shopping 169 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: list acquisitions that they made. This was back on March 170 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: thirty first, right after free agency, and he said, quote, 171 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: I'd be very disappointed if things don't turn around quickly. 172 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm starting to get impatient. It's been a while. I'm 173 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: tired of explaining to fans at the end of every 174 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: season things are going, things are getting better, on the 175 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: right track. You lose credibility with them. And at that 176 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: moment we were like, oh, like he means business. He 177 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: is uh simpatico with his fans and his fan base. 178 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: He understands, he is awareness of what's going on. So 179 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: I think we are at the point where the Giants 180 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: have to make some drastic changes and I would not 181 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: be surprised if those happened early. Which is tough, Okay 182 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: to your point, Like, there's nothing tougher than seeing John Marra, 183 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: seeing the maryor family, seeing the Tisch family in the 184 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: stadium after a loss and you walk by in the 185 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: hallway and they won't even look at you like they're 186 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: so they're red faced there like they were in placent 187 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: though I know something. They're turning around right now, right 188 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: and look, I feel like answer John's fan would look 189 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: at the Marras and say, hey, what about us. We're 190 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: paying tickets, We're the ones going, we're buying concessions. What 191 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: are you doing? Because I don't feel sympathy for John 192 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: Mara this morning. I feel sympathy for the fans that 193 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: are paying money and watching this team every week and 194 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: all the John Marra's throwing garbage cans and worried about 195 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: taunting kind of days. This team right here, this this 196 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: is what people live for their sundays. And I know 197 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: he feels it in Wellington, Mara and the family. It 198 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: all comes down. But like I don't think this morning 199 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: anyone's crying for John Mara. I think John Mara has 200 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: got to figure out what he wants in his team 201 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: and deliver it to those fans. Yeah, my point wasn't 202 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: that John marat feel sorry for him, because look, nobody's 203 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: gonna feel sorry for them. My point was that he 204 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: feels it. And I think that this could signal some 205 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: action like we've seen them kind of. I mean, look, 206 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: they've done it already, we recycled it, we've gone down 207 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: that way. But when you lose like that, and then 208 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: this weekend they're retiring stray Hand's jersey against the Eagles 209 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: at home. And let me just tell you, there's been 210 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: a lot of ceremonies this year, like Eli's jersey went in, 211 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: they had the Super Bowl forty six reunion team, and 212 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, you know what, the owners are scared to 213 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: go out on the field because the boomers are gonna boom, 214 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: and like that will force a call to action to 215 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: what you're saying. Yeah, Peter, you've said that Giants fans 216 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: are sick of talking about that because embarrass fans are 217 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: sick of nineteen said. I think they're sick. I think 218 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: they're sick of the ceremonies, to be honest. I think 219 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: you know when you bring out the twenty eleven squad 220 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: and you're getting blown out in a game and you 221 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: bring out Eli's jersey and you lose to the Falcons. 222 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: If the Eagles come in and Eagles are right hot 223 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: and they blown that's the giant for we love straight hand, 224 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: but like really, like again, we were talking about the 225 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: yesterdays respectfully, maybe we should move to the next year. 226 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell stray Fey, Fine, that's going to the space. 227 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: Is that right? Tomorrow's a block. Let's welcome in tom 228 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: post there I mentioned the Bears and it's Bears Lions 229 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving at four Field in Detroit. Do we know 230 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: who's playing quarterback for the Bears and for the Lions both? Okay, 231 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: it sounds like we'll be watching at least one backup 232 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 1: quarterback in that early game on Thanksgiving. Are Ian Rappaport 233 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: reported last night that Justin Fields is not expected to 234 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: be ready to go after suffering a rib injury last weekend, 235 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: and that means Andy Dalton is in line to get 236 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: the start in this game against the Lions. Be Dalton's 237 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: second career Thanksgiving start following one last year with the 238 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys when they got blown out by Washington. Unfortunate timing 239 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: here for a Bears team that's lost five games in 240 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: a row. Kalil Mack out for the season, Alan Robinson 241 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: has not been playing recently, and now no Fields who 242 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: was looking like an ascending player prior to his injury. Meanwhile, 243 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: Lions quarterback Jared Goff is feeling better. He took some 244 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: walk through reps on Monday. I am told there is 245 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: a chance that Goff starts if he is able to 246 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: throw the ball well today. They're going to continue to 247 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: evaluate him as he works his way back from that 248 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: oblique injury. There really was preventing him from being able 249 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: to throw naturally and throw with his core. If they 250 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: still don't feel like golf is there. It would be 251 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: Tim Boyle getting his second NFL start after throwing for 252 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: seventy seven yards in his first k That one has 253 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: a twelve thirty eastern kickoff. The turkey'll be in the oven. 254 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: All of that followed by, of course, the Raiders taking 255 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: on the Cowboys and Buffalo in New Orleans. Thank you 256 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: so much, appreciates you to Bills to get back on track. 257 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: Can they three group? Have we lost faith in? Then? 258 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: Tough last week eleven Scott Poey stopping by with his thoughts. 259 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: It's good morning football, it's Thanksgiving week. We are a family, 260 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: and now we're welcoming in one of our family members 261 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: on the show every Tuesday. He joins us. He is 262 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: the NFL network's front office analyst. He's got over twenty 263 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: six years of ent experience. He's got three Lombardi trophies 264 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: that are proudly displayed right behind us. Let's welcome in, 265 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: Scott Peo. Good morning, good morning. It's nice to have 266 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: these things back. I'm finally moved into my house again. 267 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: It's been a long haul. Good to have you back there. 268 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: All right, you're back. Let's talk about the roller coaster 269 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: that is the AFC East. A month ago everyone was 270 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: crowning the Bills their division champs. They're gonna win it again, 271 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: Patriots or two and four. But now New England if 272 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs for today would be the AFC East champion. 273 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: We know you've got Patriots roots, but take us inside 274 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: the Bills facility. What conversations you think are being had 275 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: now that Oh my gosh, We're going into week twelve 276 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: and we're not in first place. How do you stay 277 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,479 Speaker 1: the course? Peter, I think that there is some frustration. 278 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: That's just a guess. I mean there has to be. 279 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: But to me, I think Sean McDermott, who is tough, smart, 280 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: resilient and a really focused coach and person, I think 281 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: what he's saying to his team, Listen, we got a 282 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: short week. All that matters right now is the New 283 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. After this Saints game, we've got plenty of 284 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: time to prepare for the first game against New England 285 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: because they've actually got eleven days, not ten days, because 286 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: after the Thursday night Thanksgiving game, they play Monday night football. 287 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: So Sean right now has his team focused on Listen, 288 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: the Saints are the only thing that matters right now. 289 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: We lost to Jacksonville. Now, then this past week we 290 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: lost at home to Indianapolis two teams, so we probably 291 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: should have eaten. So right now we have to focus 292 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: on on business. We are not as good as people 293 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: are saying. As a focus on this week and then 294 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: we will take care of the Patriots preparation when we 295 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: have time to take care of the Protots preparation. Scott 296 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: Right now, one of the biggest buzzwars, and what we 297 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: do is hashtag identity. Teams either have it or they 298 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: don't this time of year, and if they don't, they're 299 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: desperately scrambling to get it. Who is a team eating 300 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: to look at the field right now, who knows exactly 301 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: who they are, who has that precious identity and is 302 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: getting business done? Kyle, I think the team that has 303 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: started to establish their identity they truly believe in is 304 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts, and the identity that they've taken on, 305 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: in my opinion, is a team that knows who they 306 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: are and what they are, and what they've done is 307 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: taken on the identity of their head coach, where they 308 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: are smart and they are disciplined. I mean, if you 309 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: look at their football team right now, they are third 310 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: in the league in penalties in the fewest penalties and 311 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: second in the NFL in penalty differential. They're also number 312 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: one in the league in terms of turnover differential, So 313 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: they are playing smart football doing smart things. They also 314 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: know what the strengths and limitations of their quarterback, Carson 315 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: Wentz will be, and they give the ball to Jonathan Taylor, 316 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: who's the NFL's leading Russia by two hundred yards. They 317 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: know what they've got to do to win football games. 318 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: They're doing it outside and indoor team doing it outside 319 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: in Buffalo by giving Jonathan Taylor the football again, knowing 320 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: who they are and accentuating the positive and limiting the limitations. 321 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: Great point right there, the fact that an indoor team 322 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: going outside establishing their identity to run the football. I 323 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: love watching them behind that offensive line too. They kind 324 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: of look at all like the Patriots who just ran 325 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: the football against the Atlanta Falcons last week on Thursday Night. 326 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: But I want to talk about the Bucks, who we 327 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: watched last night take down my g men and look 328 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: they're coming off with two straight losses and feels a 329 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: lot like deja vu from last year. About the offense, 330 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: what is their identity this season? And do you think 331 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: that they're better this year than they were last year offensively? Sean, 332 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't think that they fully established our identity yet. 333 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: As Kyle said earlier, teams are needing to find out 334 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: what their identity is, and when we look at the 335 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I'm not sure we know what they are. 336 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm not fully sure they know what they are, but 337 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: we're not inside that building. One of the things that 338 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: they are and happen is a little bit too inconsistent. 339 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: And you ask about where they were last year. This 340 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: is when they started to hit their groove last year. 341 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,239 Speaker 1: But right now, you know, we've heard we've heard Bruce 342 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: arians talk a couple of times about his team's intelligence, 343 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: not doing smart things. And when you look at this team, 344 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: one of the shocking things is they're leading the entire 345 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: NFL into or they're on the opposite. They're the worst 346 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL in terms of penalty differential, and what 347 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: that means is they're giving up two hundred and ninety 348 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: four total yards over the season in penalties in their games. 349 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: That is not championship football. So what they have is 350 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: an identity that is evolving. I still think they've had 351 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: too many injuries. There's been inconsistency with the roster on 352 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: game date. So right now is when they need to 353 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: really establish this identity. They have the firepower, they have, 354 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: the team, they have the players. Now they've just got 355 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: to play smarter football. They have to. Scott Pealley joining 356 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: us here ahead of Week twelve action I had three games. 357 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: On Thanksgiving, I was hanging out on NFL dot Com 358 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: as I often do, and I came across an article 359 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: that you, my friend, penned where you make the case 360 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: for Rodney Harrison and why he should be a Hall 361 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: of Famer. What do you think is the biggest reason 362 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: he deserves that gold jacket? Okay, The simple fact is 363 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: he was a great player and one of the most 364 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: dominant players of his era, and that is part of 365 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: what the requirements are for the National Football Leagues or 366 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And to me, Rodney 367 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: Harrison was a versatile player. When the game was starting 368 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: to change, he was one of the best versatile players, 369 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: and he was again dominant in so many ways. He 370 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: was a tremendous splitzer. You know. In this article, I'll 371 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: talk about some of the things, and I'm going to 372 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: compare him to John Lynch, who was an absolute Hall 373 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: of Famer. And I compared he and John because they 374 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: played in the same era. And when you look at 375 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: the numbers. I'm not a huge analytics guy, but when 376 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: you look at the numbers, you will see the facts 377 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: as to why Rodney bloms in the Hall of Fame. However, 378 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: when you look at tape, you spend time around these teammates, 379 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: and you talk to the people that played against him, 380 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: that feared him and respected him, that you talked to 381 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: the teammates that played with him. He was a champions champion. 382 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: He still is a champions champion. And to me, one 383 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: of the simple things is Rodney Harrison was the first 384 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: ever thirty thirty player where he had thirty sacks and 385 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: thirty interceptions, the first player in NFL history to do it. 386 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: There's only been two players do it, the other one 387 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: being ray Lewis. Rodney, again, because of his aggressiveness and 388 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: some of his out of the line hits, I think 389 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: was looked at a little bit differently. But Rodney Harrison 390 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: is an absolute Hall of Fame player. All Right, Scott, 391 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: and you just made the case. A lot of the 392 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: voters are watching the show and will hopefully listen to 393 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: your words. Rodney Harrison a case for Kent and I 394 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: appreciate it, Scott, and we appreciate you. Have an awesome 395 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving weekend and enjoy the games under that. I'm thankful 396 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: this you. I truly bean it. Thanks Thanksgiving. Killing off 397 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: the Taylor lawns or shoulder plenty pound his way across 398 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: the goal line. Tuner screened the left side. Johnson Taylor, 399 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: He's a the ten mix of bandmit. He's at the 400 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: five puck back cut down that one for twenty three 401 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: pants off the Johnson Taylor jump, the fire hold on 402 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: Taylor stalks out left, Fide cuts up with the pipe 403 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: step Marchers way did it again down? That's tick down 404 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: number four, jomp the Taylor stood up at the water 405 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: talk four five number five A performance for the agents. 406 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: All right, time for a game of we interview out. 407 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: Here's how it works. We say a statement and then 408 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: we say whether we disagree with the statement or we 409 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: agree with the statement. And that was Jonathan Taylor. A 410 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five yards, five touchdowns, I think pretty 411 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: much in arguably the greatest player in football this past week. 412 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: He now leads the NFL eleven hundred rushing yards team 413 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: touchdowns already, that's receiving and rushing. He's running away with 414 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: the rushing title as Derrick Henry is on the men. 415 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: And yet we look at the league and it's who's 416 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: the MVPA. I don't know, So I posed this first 417 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: statement to you guys, Jonathan Taylor is the league's MVP 418 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: Most Valuable Player. Eleven weeks in to the twenty twenty 419 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: one season, are we interre out Sean. I love what 420 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: he's doing on the field, and as an all former 421 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, any kind of running back can just do 422 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: that to defense is gut them right up the middle. 423 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: It's phenomenal. But I'm gonna go a different direction here. 424 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: I love that we're not talking about quarterbacks here for 425 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: the MVP, but I'm gonna go with the guy who 426 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: didn't even play last week, Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup for 427 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: MVP right now. Look, Jonathan Taylor is the hot you know, 428 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: he's the hot commodity right now because he played Cooper 429 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup was taking a nap this past week. I 430 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: guess what. He still leads the league in receptions, still 431 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: leads the league in receiving yards, still leads the league 432 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: in receiving touchdowns. Cooper Cup right now is my MBA MVP. 433 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: MBBA did vote right now the best player? If about 434 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: they're saying Cooper Cup, he is doing something no player 435 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: has ever done in the history of the game. In 436 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: NFL history, think about all the receivers that have gone 437 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: out there. No player has ever had eighty plus catches, 438 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: over a thousand yards and ten touchdowns in the first 439 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: ten gamesper cup. Look at that ten there is you 440 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: make a good case for the wide receiver. I think, yeah, 441 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor has a legitimate shot. And it's not just 442 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: a fever dream this year, because it's a quarterbacks award. 443 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: We all know that. And the only argument that I'm 444 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: hearing this even close to compelling against Jonathan Taylor is 445 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: that if you didn't give it to Derrick Henry last year, 446 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: you can't give it to Jonathan Taylor this year. Well, 447 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: last year, my friends, a man named Aaron Rodgers was 448 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: lighting the world on fire. And you can definitely make 449 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: an Aaron Rodgers case this year. He has good numbers. 450 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: But it's not about Jonathan Taylor versus Derrick Henry. It's 451 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor versus the twenty twenty one field. In the 452 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one field does not have a quarterback, at 453 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: least in my eyes, Peter that wants to win this award. 454 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: There's no quarterback separating sell from the pack. So I 455 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: don't know Taylor has a shot because none of the 456 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are having a scorched earth type of year like 457 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: Rodgers had last year, and I kind of like it 458 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: right in. Damn, yeah, I said, as I was start 459 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: in my argument. Yeah, bit, all right, I'm way out, 460 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: way out. I can't. I just can't give it to 461 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: the running back on the ninth best team in the ASH, 462 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they're the ninth best team. 463 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: He's a great player, great stats and everything like that, 464 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: but it just doesn't sit right with me. It doesn't. 465 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: And I agree with Kay in the sense that, like 466 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: we can start striking him down. It's not Kyler, it's 467 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: not Josh Allen, it's not Dak, it's not Lamar. The 468 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: crazy thing is that, even with all he's been through, 469 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: even missing a game, I still think Rogers is in 470 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: the mix, like Rogers is putting up VP numbers, and 471 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: I still think it's Brady. I would give it to Brady. 472 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: I really default, or you feel like Brady's the best 473 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: player in football this time to buy the fall like 474 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: That's why this is a great question. I think it's 475 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: impossible to answer. I really do. I don't feel good 476 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: giving it to Taylor. I kind of give to Brady 477 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: by default. We need two thousand yards. We need a 478 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: thirteen and three season, like we need something really special 479 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 1: to give it to a running back who has much 480 00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: less to do with the team than the quarterback. I 481 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: think I'm out. Yeah, And it's a great question because 482 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: to your point, k Josh Allen was supposed to be 483 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: the guy too many of these games where it's down 484 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: and then it was like, all right, Mahomes, Mahomes is winning, 485 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: but they're winning nineteen to nine. It's not like, Hey, 486 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: Mahomes is the reason. Cooper Cup is an interesting one. 487 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: I kind of scoffed at it at first, but in 488 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: this hey, what we're trying to I just don't know 489 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: if he's the best wide receiver in the sport. Do 490 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: you even think he's the best of his position, John, 491 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: it's a great question. I think when you look at 492 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: him in that offense, yeah, I think for what they 493 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: do and how he fits into it, Yeah, it's phenomenal. 494 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: Now you're gonna put him on the outside and ask 495 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: him to do something different. I mean, that's a totally 496 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: different ball game. But I like what Cooper Cup brings. 497 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: I like the conversation about Brady, and I think that 498 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: what you're talking about with him being the best. We 499 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: have a different standard for Tom, like he's leading the 500 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: league right now in touchdowns. I mean, the guy's phenomenal 501 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: at home. We just kind of have a different parometer 502 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: with him. But the other guy you could really argue it, 503 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: and you mentioned him is Derrick Henry, like he might 504 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: be the MB this year is Yeah, look at what 505 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: the team that syntegrated without him, So technically that's one 506 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 1: fifteen with that paid man he mentioned the v king 507 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 1: of der Kennedy playing, there's only has four picks this year. 508 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: You can definitely make the case. As I said, and 509 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: as you said for Rogers Brady too, I guess. But 510 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: does that juice anybody up this year? You know, I 511 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: don't know. There could be a wild one who comes running. 512 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: I know, but it might be Taylor. It might be Taylor, 513 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: it might be Kirk Cousins. Numbers are amazing, Like if 514 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 1: if Justin Herbert gets like this, it's wide open. If 515 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts gets seconds quart this year, she got to 516 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: have a winning record though, I would think so too. Yeah, 517 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: let's get to the second one, because the Vikings had 518 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 1: a wild, wild win and it's been a wild season 519 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 1: for the Vikings, up and down and up and down. 520 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: You want to talk about a moment that's on the 521 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: top part of the roller coaster, it was that victory 522 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: over the Packers. Vikings fans come out in droves and 523 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: they're like, we have just been through too much. We've 524 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: been through too much. Here are the worst Super Bowl 525 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: records of all time. And I only bring this up. 526 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to go negative. This doesn't even include 527 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: the Gary Anderson field goal. This doesn't include uh, you know, 528 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: Brett Farm They're a pick against the Saints in the 529 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: Superdome in an NC Championship game. My statement is this, 530 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: Vikings fans have been through more heartache than any other 531 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: fan base in football. Kyle, are we in or are 532 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: we out? I'm out, I'm out. It's how do you 533 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: like your pain? How do you want it? Is it 534 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: better to have loved and lost or to have never 535 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: loved at all? The Minnesota Vikings have had some glorious moments, 536 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: a lot of playoff wins. The Minneapolis miracle alone should 537 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: satiate anybody in any fan base. Give me Detroit, Give 538 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: me Detroit right now. Just a slow, dead burn of 539 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: teasing and misery. They haven't had that won a couple 540 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: of games. A question. Well, I put a date on 541 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: that footage because that's where they went on sixteen. Yeah, 542 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: you're right anything and this is incredibly negative, But I 543 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: just want to shout out to Detroit that we feel you, 544 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: we got you. You're probably in so you know how 545 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: badly they would love to have the Moss and Carter 546 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: and cunning year. They had Stafford and Megatron and great players, 547 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: and they still haven't done it. I think Detroit is 548 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: the worst because it's just this like just this flatline 549 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: as opposed to, oh my god, we're gonna do it, 550 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: and then the disappointment. But that might be more painful. 551 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: They lost four super Bowls, but you just showed us. 552 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: I can't you lose four super Bowls. By the way, 553 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: they lost six NFC Championship games, and you're saying not 554 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: even counting the Gary Anderson field goal was like that 555 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: canceled out any Minneapolis miracle. The Minneapolis miracle does not 556 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: elate anybody. It was a great moment that led to nothing. 557 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Vikings here on this one, 558 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: because at least, you know, I was thinking the Saints 559 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: maybe on the other side of the Mini miracle. But 560 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: they at least have a ring to fall, they have 561 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: something they could say, at least we got one. I 562 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: don't know, all those years they had Chris Carter and 563 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: Randy Moss, were they not the best team in the 564 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: NFL for so many of those years, so many of 565 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: those weeks in and out, and they couldn't get anything 566 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: done there That tortured fan base. And I feel for you. 567 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: Heartache is always something different to define. For Detroit, it's 568 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: almost like, you know, here we go again. And I 569 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: think for heart ache, sometimes it's when your team gets 570 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: so close and you're right there and you can smell 571 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: and see the postseason, you can see the super Bowl, 572 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: and then it gets ripped from your grasp. So I'm 573 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: gonna go with the Saints. You mentioned the Minnesota Miracle. 574 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: Take us back to the Minnesota Vikings. Seven heads right here, 575 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: case Keenum. I mean, look, everybody's thinking a Drew Brees 576 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: and the Saints they're gonna go back to the super Bowl, 577 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: and then this happens the road game. Sean really like 578 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs. Yeah, I mean, if you're if you're the 579 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: Saints fans right here, this is this is the playoff game, 580 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: this is the Browns. Yes, but this is hard. I'm 581 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: just talking on most recently here, the heartache, the fact 582 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: that that from your grass in twenty seventeen, it's like, 583 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Marcus Blames, Okay, all right, you know 584 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: what we're gonna get him next year? Well, you know 585 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: what happens the next year? Not good? This happens the 586 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: next year. The Saints fans Nickel Robie Coleman with the 587 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: non pi and if you're Drew Brees, you're like, oh my, 588 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: in this, I don't know how many more years I 589 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: got in me and the whole team kind of knows that. 590 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: You know, you're watching your your Hall of Fame league. 591 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: This changed the NFL. They changed the entire rule and 592 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: the fact that you could replay it. Because of this, 593 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: Saints fans, you had no doubt about it. Didn't show 594 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins ripping their heart out the following year, right, 595 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: It's year after year, and then last year they're up 596 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: and Jared Cook fumbles and then the Buccaneers go on 597 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: their rights. Saints fans have been They've had a permanent 598 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: seat at the Absent House on Bourbon Street. Racing. No 599 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: mention of the Buffalo Bills four Super Bowls in a 600 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: row and haven't won one. They won four title games. 601 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: Those are great days of sports fan. That's good. It's 602 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: tough take. What do you think? What's your's your take Minnesota? No, 603 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: my takes. The Jets fans, it's really they won one 604 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: at sixty nine. No one who is watching this show 605 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: was like an adult when that happened, Like it's a whole. 606 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: They've lost three generation, couple of title games. Not bad. Yeah, 607 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: Melissa's rocket her jets on our producer die hard Jet fans. 608 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: She goes to these games. I'm like, you go to 609 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: the games. It's like you're going to jail. You're gonna 610 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: say no to that. Com Elijah More all right. At 611 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: least twice a year we hang out with our next guest, 612 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: who is an IVY League graduated. He did a fantastic 613 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: advice and it's why we keep welcoming him back as 614 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: a businessman, a professor providing financial advice for NFL players 615 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: and friends and to us. He's a linebacker as well 616 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: for the Atlanta Falcons. Please welcome back. Front of the show. 617 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: Miranda coop Cope. How y'all doing. It's great to be back. 618 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: It's all right, good, I'm sleeping pretty well. You want 619 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: to understand, probably not so much. Your family recently welcomed 620 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: a second kiddo into the world. Cope, congratulations Braylan Miles Copeland. 621 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: He was born exactly two weeks ago. Oh my god. Yeah, 622 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: what an absolute angel. I love it. How's the new addition? 623 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: He is awesome? He is awesome. Yeah, it's you know, 624 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: I gotta shout out my wife, Taylor. She's taken on 625 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: the you know, the lion's share of the responsibilities with 626 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: baby Braylan. You know, we had the baby on Tuesday. 627 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: I was doing my best job being a coach, holding 628 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: that hand, you know, telling her to push, baby push, 629 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, and then we had an away game on 630 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: Sunday and in a Thursday night game. So it's just 631 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,239 Speaker 1: been you know, a lot, a lot of on us 632 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: in the family. But it's been a blessing, you know, 633 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: nothing short of a blessing. So we're excited, it seems excited. 634 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: We're excited for you too, especially since this thing is 635 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: fully generational. Now we have a full appreciation you're on 636 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: the show, as you know, for the retro NFL dude. 637 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: Back in the seventies, your grandfather, Roy Hilton, also played 638 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: defense for the Falcons. This is really cool. You're in 639 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,479 Speaker 1: your first season with Atlanta, but here's the retro footas. 640 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: What does it mean to look at this and following 641 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: your grandfather's footsteps. Wow, first and foremost, this first time 642 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm seeing this film myself, so you know that almost 643 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: brings here to my eye right here, So I look 644 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: at this man making plays, I see you, granddad, to 645 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: get out here. It's a plays, That's what I'm saying. 646 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: But you know, to answer a question, it's it's an 647 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: amazing feeling. I mean, they have a beautiful wall in 648 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: the Falcons facility that has the names of every player 649 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: that's ever played for the Falcons and put on this uniform, 650 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: and obviously being able to walk past my grandfather's name 651 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: every day, it's not just another form of motivation, but 652 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: it's also you know, unfortunately my grandfather passed away in 653 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, but it's a reminder that he's obviously here 654 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: with me. So you know, every time I go on 655 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: the field, my wife sends me a prayer. A lot 656 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: of times it has in there. You know Granddad be 657 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: with him on the field today. So being a spiritual person, 658 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: I really, I really am am blessed to be able 659 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: to put on the same jersey and walk the same 660 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: you know, just land that my grandfather had an opportunity 661 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: to walk when when he was my age. So again 662 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: nothing short of a blessing. But again I need to 663 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: get out there and make some plays like that, because 664 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: you know Granddad was putting in that work. But Granddad 665 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: was an awesome player and obviously an amazing man. He'd 666 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: be so proud to watch you play for the Falcons 667 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: right now. And that was footing to him sacking Steve Spurrier. 668 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: That was pretty cool. Spurrier was with the forty nine ers, 669 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: so it's neat for us to watch it as well. Um, 670 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: you guys have a pretty good quarterback coming in next 671 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: week and it's the number one overall pick, Trevor Lawrence. 672 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: What does your defense have in store for the Jaguars 673 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: young signal color? And will you be tossing him around 674 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: like another Heisman winner Steve Spurrier was tossed around by 675 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: your grandfather. That's always the plan. I mean for me personally, 676 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, I don't go on the field and you know, 677 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: looking to not be as violent and impose my will. 678 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: But um, you know, obviously Trevor Lawrence is a remarkable 679 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: young player. Clearly he's been that way since you know, 680 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: he started touching the football. So it's going to be 681 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: a task for us as a defense to contain them 682 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: and limit them. You know, with great players like that, 683 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: you you know that they're going to make plays. You 684 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: just have to be able to weather the store and 685 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: also throw your shots in there and get your punches 686 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: in when you can. So you know, I'm excited to 687 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: continue to try to not only game plan for him, 688 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: but the other weapons that they have on that team, 689 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: because you know they're starting to Gael for sure. So 690 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: thanksgiving us a great get Brannon, and certainly a lot 691 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: to be thankful for. Congratulations on your second child and 692 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: having healthy children as certainly a blessing. But you're not 693 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: stopping there on this week of Thanksgiving. You're giving back 694 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: through your foundation beyond the basics. Talk to us about 695 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: what you're doing. And it sounds like you did something 696 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: last night. So you're not sleeping when you're not watching film, 697 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: you're doing charitable things. Tell us more about your Foundation. Yeah, 698 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: So Beyond the Basics INC Is a foundation my wife 699 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: and I started a few years ago. We literally try 700 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: to embody the name beyond the basic meaning. You know, 701 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: I know, obviously a lot of NFL players we grow 702 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: up and we want to do good things in the community. 703 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: But you know, for some of us, um, you know, 704 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it's not simple, but it's just you know, 705 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: we try to find ways to kind of go a 706 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: little bit above and beyond. Right, Clearly the name slens 707 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: itself to that. So, um, last night, myself, Mike Davis, 708 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: John Komensky, Mike Vanellum, the Falcons, and Publics we all 709 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: partnered up and went to a public's here in Atlanta 710 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: underserved community and literally paid for groceries for two hours straight, 711 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: about twenty two thousand dollars worth. Well, it was twenty 712 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars worth of groceries, and um, it was amazing. 713 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean one, it's to be honest with you, personal 714 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: bucket list EO. Thing we've done in multiple times just 715 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: going into stores and just paid for everyone's stuff, which 716 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: has been awesome. Usually do it around um, you know, 717 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: the December month and the holidays and stuff like that, 718 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: but um, it was pretty cool because a lot of 719 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: people obviously are you know, we're still in the middle 720 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: of a pandemic, you know, and people, you know, I 721 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: think a lot of people get shocked when they come 722 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: up to the register and they are kind of looking 723 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 1: at you like what do you what are you about 724 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: to do? You know, and then you swap that car 725 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: form and a lot of them are really like in 726 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: awe or really shocked that somebody is taking the time 727 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: to think about them and that people are still doing 728 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: nice things in this world. So I think that you know, 729 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: we're trying to do we call it be a blessing 730 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: because we just want to encourage people, even though that 731 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: can afford their meal, to just want to be able 732 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: to put a smile on someone else's face. So hopefully 733 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: we can try to build that momentum. And again, you know, 734 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: this world isn't perfect, but we're trying to do our 735 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: part and creating lots of good energy by doing that. 736 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: Very thoughtful of you, Brandon. You also somehow have carved 737 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: out some time to have a new podcast. It's called 738 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: Money Music Culture. We can see it behind you. What 739 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: is the goal of the podcast and what do you 740 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: hope it accomplishes. Yeah, So Money Music Culture shout out 741 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: to my guy, Ross Mack and my whole team Life 742 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: one on one, Eating Wide and Chad. We we are 743 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: trying to find different ways to continue to talk to 744 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: people about money. I mean, unfortunately, you know, I've done 745 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: the class at PEN and we're still doing the class 746 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: at PEN. We've actually recently with the meal right here 747 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: on my shirt, we recently rolled out our class to 748 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: high school students for credit right, And ultimately it's kind 749 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 1: of you know, there's some lessons when I'm talking about 750 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: banking interest rates and things like that. We're to be 751 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: honest with you, even as the professor of my eyes 752 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: are peeling over. So we were trying to find more 753 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: creative ways to talk to people about money, and what 754 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 1: better way to do that than through the universal language 755 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: of music. So Ross and I we literally sit down 756 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: and listen to some of your favorite songs, some of 757 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: the you know, the Megos, Nipsey Hustle and jay Z 758 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: and we literally listened to some of the songs and 759 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: some of the lyrics that they're saying, and then we 760 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: actually deliver a financial education lesson on that lyric. So 761 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: when Beyonce is talking about pay me in equity, right, Well, 762 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: not too many people noticed she went to Uber and 763 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: instead of getting paid six million dollars to perform, she 764 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: decided to take all that in equity and when the 765 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: stock went public, she made a lot more than six 766 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: million dollars. So it's just trying to get people to 767 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: understand think differently, but also do it in a creative way, 768 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: so we literally have fun. It's therapy for me because 769 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: I like listening to music too, So we need to 770 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: get all of y'all on too. Come on, his guest. 771 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: I love this money music culture. I'm sure you can 772 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: get it wherever you download. I love you, Brandon, thank 773 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: you for bringing us your energy this morning. You are 774 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: the best. And good luck with the Falcons, the podcast 775 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: and brain. Thank you so much. I appreciate y'all. Happy 776 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving for the first time. I'm hard knocks. We got 777 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 1: everybody we need in this locker room. Experience the NFL 778 00:37:53,880 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: during this season or good. The season is stressful, a 779 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: lot of pressure. Boo boooopoo. How well is this lining up? 780 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna experience that the Colts where they just do 781 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: the Buffalo. It's the first ever Hard Knocks during the 782 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: NFL season. FL Films follows these Colts twenty twenty one 783 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks in season, the Indianapolis Colts. It is now 784 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: streaming on HBO and HBO Max. That is so awesome. 785 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: I gotta watch that this week. And it's also got 786 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: to check out the power rankings by Dan hands Us 787 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: ahead of Week twelve. For reasons that are almost inexplicable. 788 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 1: We started talking about seventies radio hot soupy sales earlier 789 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: in the show, so we're gonna do this with the 790 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: category of soups right now. Let's get to the French 791 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: Onion Division, polarizing soup not for everybody but the Droit 792 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: Lions down there at thirty two. We'll see a Thursday 793 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: New York Jets, a thirty one Bears, twenty seven, see 794 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: a Thursday Giants. This is not a fun division to 795 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: be in. So let's move on to the you. We're 796 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: gonna see the ironic pub that says soup of the 797 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: day whiskey. We'll do that division. Eagles seventeen, eighteen Saints, 798 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers nineteen in the league, twenty Carolina Panthers, Washington 799 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders, and Broncos Dolphins. Moving on to the Matso 800 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: Bald division. My daughter's favorite food. We love going to 801 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: the Delhi she crushes it. Evelyn loves the matzo balls. 802 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: She does On the left, The Rams and Vikings round 803 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: out the top ten. Chargers, Coats, Ravens, Brown's still hanging 804 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: in there, Bengals off a win, Nighters, don't let him 805 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: get hot too late. And as we move on to 806 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: the Talk Soup division, why not the soup? Our friend 807 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: Joe McHale fan of the show. All right, Dan has 808 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: us an opera left. She has the Cardinals as the 809 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: best team in football, going closely by a team that 810 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: they lost to. This is so fun. The Packers, then 811 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: last night's Bucks Jeeves creeping up to four Cowboys. They 812 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: put up the nine points, they're still at five. Patriots, Oh, 813 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: Patriots six tasty builds off a beatdown. Where are the 814 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: Colts on? And then the Titans. As Dan always says, 815 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: it's not power standings, it's power rankings. We use his words. 816 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: Let's see that beautiful face. Let's bring him in. The 817 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: man behind the power, Dan hansskid morning Dan very good, 818 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: and I like the Talk Super Reference. I would have 819 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: went with a John Henson era of the early nineties. 820 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: But that's yeah, Raisha, can hear whoever you want. We 821 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: have to start off, though, with one of the most 822 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: punishing losses of the week, nay of this season. The 823 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: Bills lost to the Cultures brutal Dan and yet we're 824 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: looking at your rankings, they've only fallen from the fifth 825 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: spot to the seventh spot. Care to explain your decision? Yeah, 826 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: this is hard because the power rankings is really tricky 827 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,959 Speaker 1: business in the year twenty twenty one, where the teams 828 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: that are supposed to be superpowers, like the Bills, they 829 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: don't play like superpowers week to week. And yet for 830 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: me to really drop them, to quote unquote punish them 831 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: and send them into the teams or wherever, that would 832 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: be me saying that I don't really believe in this 833 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: Bills team. I say, I think they're more a team 834 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 1: that's going through some stuff right now, but at the 835 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: same time, I think there's something that's still there. They're 836 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: in a slump that was as ugly as it gets 837 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: on Sunday against the Colts, but my placement of them 838 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 1: shows I still think they are a top ten team 839 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: in the team in the league, but they're gonna have 840 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: to show it on Thursday. Yeah they are. That's a 841 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 1: good one with the Saints. There's also a huge Colts 842 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: game this weekend. And when we watched Jonathan Taylor, we're 843 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: just jumping for joy because we even said he might 844 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: be an MVP candidate. Five total touchdowns, one hundred eighty 845 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: five yards and you said he makes the Colts look 846 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: like the most dangerous team in the AFC. I don't know, 847 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: take us through it. Here, is this guy gonna be 848 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: MVP in the first eleven games we've got this? What 849 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: do you think? Yeah, I think we were. He's officially 850 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 1: in the conversation for sure. And I think again, because 851 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: this is a strange season. The MVP race is more 852 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: wide open than I can really remember. And I think 853 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: it goes back to the fact that there just aren't 854 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks having dominant, memorable seasons right now. And I thought 855 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray was a favorite, and then he got hurt 856 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen he was the favorite in Vegas a 857 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and then things we've got on 858 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: sideways there. So the door is open for a non 859 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: quarterback and here comes Jonathan Taylor. And who has been 860 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: more important? Who's been more valuable than Jonathan Taylor? A 861 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: guy who now leads a league in yards, leads the 862 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: league in touchdowns, and on a week to week basis, 863 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: is making wild plays and just carrying this Colds team. 864 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 1: I mean, Carson Wentz is not a guy and I'm 865 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: a Carson Wentz apologist that you could trust necessarily. But 866 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: when you could hide him and he could throw U 867 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: for one hundred and thirty yards and you destroy the Bills, 868 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: it's because you have an MVP level running back. And 869 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: that's what Jonathan Taylor has been, all right, Dan, Both 870 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Raiders coming off a week eleven 871 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: losses and they're facing each other on Thanksgaming Day, four 872 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: thirty pm on CBS. Who's got more at stake in 873 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: this game? The Raiders are on the outside looking in, 874 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: Cowboys are first Division. But who's got most at stake here? 875 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: That's an easy one for me, Sean, I think it's 876 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: it's the Raiders. The Raiders are in a lot of 877 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: trouble here. You know, we talked about it all throughout 878 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. Yeah, it's a good start, 879 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: but are they going to do what they did in 880 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and twenty twenty fade in December. Well they 881 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: proved everybody wrong because they faded in November. But that 882 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they can't dig themselves out of this and 883 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: get and salvage this season. But they need to do 884 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: it on Thursday. This is their opportunity to keep this 885 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 1: season from completely imploding. The Cowboys are still in a 886 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 1: great position obviously to be a playoff team. If they lose, 887 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: it's going to be a lot of drama around Jerald World. 888 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: But I still think in terms of who needs it more, 889 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: it's the Raiders. NFL dot Com Slash Power Rankings. You 890 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 1: said that Justin Herbert, Hi Dan is different. That's the 891 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: word you use. Hi. The Chargers coming off a big 892 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: primetime win. I yesterday sort of expressed my worry that 893 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: too much is on Justin Herbert. If he's not good, 894 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna win if he's not 895 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: having a great day. Do you think that he and 896 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: this Chargers team has what it takes to actually give 897 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 1: the Chiefs a run for their money. I mean, again, 898 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the rest of the AFC. There's no 899 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: dominant teams, So yes, the Chargers can get hot and 900 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: be the team. But at the same time, like we 901 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: were at SOFI, stayed in me and the Ahn gang 902 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: on Sunday night watching that game, and you know, the 903 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: Steelers were decimated by injuries on defense, so the Chiefs. 904 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: It was fun watching them on offense, but I still 905 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: have questions whether they can be consistently doing that week 906 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: to week. And then the defense. You know, Ben Roethlisberger 907 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: went up and down the field on him. I think 908 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: they've been disappointing on defense all year. They have big 909 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: time players on both sides of the ball. They have 910 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: big time players in the front seven and the back end, 911 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: and yet it hasn't really all come together. So I 912 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,479 Speaker 1: keep them at eleven, just outside the top ten, knowing 913 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: they have the potential to rise up and become a superpower. 914 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 1: But right now I'm still kind of hedging my bets 915 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: on them a little bit. What a year for the rankings, Dan. 916 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: Anybody who wants to say that power rankings are not real, 917 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: we say they're even better than the real thing. Be 918 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: sure to check out NFL Power Rankings, presented by Enterandiser 919 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: every Tuesday and NFL dot Com. Dan, thank you for 920 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,720 Speaker 1: guiding us through the mysterious ways of these there rankings 921 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 1: too so much nail it