WEBVTT - Do People Who Commit Suicide Go To Heaven?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, Welcome back to the podcast. This is episode

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<v Speaker 1>two sixty two. And I'm just thinking as I was

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<v Speaker 1>setting up, that we should do something special for three hundred, right,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for the people that have listened for so long.

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<v Speaker 1>Three hundred episodes. That's crazy, right, We're getting close to that.

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<v Speaker 1>What we do here is we answer your questions. You

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<v Speaker 1>could email me podcast at grangersmith dot com how to

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<v Speaker 1>think about that for a second podcast at grangersmith dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>You could ask me any question about any topic and

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<v Speaker 1>I just answer it. Like me and you are friends

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<v Speaker 1>and we're driving on the road and you say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>can I run something by you. I don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of notes in front of me, I have this

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<v Speaker 1>iPad that has your questions chewed up from ant Man.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I look at this as a conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>and I look at this podcast as a way to

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<v Speaker 1>encourage people to think, and I want them to think

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that they could kind of step back

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<v Speaker 1>from being in the middle of the problem, because we

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<v Speaker 1>have a tendency to get inside our heads and look

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<v Speaker 1>at it the problem from a microscope instead of stepping

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<v Speaker 1>back and seeing the full picture of it. And so

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately The goal for me is not just to answer

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<v Speaker 1>your questions and move on and then that specific question

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<v Speaker 1>is answered, because I'm not always right on these, but

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<v Speaker 1>more so that we could all together learn to think

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<v Speaker 1>about them together, so that we could answer any question

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<v Speaker 1>that comes up. I think that's kind of the point here,

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<v Speaker 1>because I have learned in two hundred and sixty one episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>This is number two sixty two. I think I've learned

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<v Speaker 1>that there are only seven to ten real questions, and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else is a nuance of those seven to ten questions.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's dive into this once again. The email is

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<v Speaker 1>podcast at grangersmith dot com. And another thing I've been

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<v Speaker 1>encouraging on this is if you go wherever you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>right now. My preference is Apple Podcasts. That's where I

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<v Speaker 1>listen to my podcast. Sometimes I listen on Spotify. You

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<v Speaker 1>could also watch the video that I'm recording on Spotify,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also put them up on YouTube and X

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<v Speaker 1>and Facebook. I think I know for sure X. But

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<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, if you go on there, you could actually

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<v Speaker 1>comment below the video, which is kind of cool. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a question wherever you're listening from about

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<v Speaker 1>what I say on this episode, not a new question,

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<v Speaker 1>but a question regarding an answer that I give. Go

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<v Speaker 1>to YouTube and comment below on this episode, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll scan through that and see if there's anything we

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<v Speaker 1>need to double down on. That's kind of how we

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<v Speaker 1>started this series, Marshall and I when we were doing

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<v Speaker 1>the Good Church series How to Find a Good Church

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<v Speaker 1>Part one, Part two, and I plan to have them

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<v Speaker 1>back for a part three and maybe even more to

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<v Speaker 1>continue this, but right now we're starting from scratchies or

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<v Speaker 1>brand new questions. The first one says, Hey, Granger, I

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<v Speaker 1>love what you're doing with the podcast. I was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge fan of your prior career as well. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Justin and I'm married with two wonderful children. My

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<v Speaker 1>wife and I have been married for ten years now.

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<v Speaker 1>We recently attended a worship night in our area. During

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<v Speaker 1>that night, I met a worship leader from another church.

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<v Speaker 1>We began to small talk. I left my church to

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<v Speaker 1>begin attending her church. I have grown feelings for someone

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even really know. My wife has started talking

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<v Speaker 1>about divorce as she thinks I'm cheating on her with

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<v Speaker 1>this other lady. I'm lost, confused and worried. What should

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<v Speaker 1>I do? Comes from justin, justin, thank you brother, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for emailing. And here's my reaction to this. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes me think of there's a scene from this

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen King film, which I'm not recommending on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but the movie is called it. Surely most people have

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<v Speaker 1>heard my kids. Obviously, my kids have not seen this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>but they know what it is. It's that crazy clown.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's like I think it's I think it

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<v Speaker 1>ends up being an alien or something that eats humans.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the scenario. Here's the story. In the newer

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<v Speaker 1>version of this, this creature dressed as a clown hides

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<v Speaker 1>in a gutter I stuck a drain like a storm

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<v Speaker 1>train storm drain, and holds her little balloon that comes

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<v Speaker 1>out of the storm drain. And the clown is inside

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<v Speaker 1>the gutter and a kid, a boy, I think a

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<v Speaker 1>boy or a girl, sees the balloon and walks up

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<v Speaker 1>to the to the storm drain and wants to take

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<v Speaker 1>the balloon. And this this clown says, take the balloon.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it. You know, I haven't seen it personally, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you the story. Take you know, take it.

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<v Speaker 1>So pretty. It's a beautiful, innocent little balloon. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>love it. This is This is a beautiful toy. And

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<v Speaker 1>the child in the movie takes this innocent, little, sweet

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<v Speaker 1>little balloon from this clown, and the creature in the

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<v Speaker 1>clown grabs the child and rips the arm off of

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<v Speaker 1>the child, completely rips the arm right out of the

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<v Speaker 1>socket and takes it down into the storm drain and

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<v Speaker 1>eats it. Your story reminds me of that story, and

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<v Speaker 1>your story is actually worse than the movie it. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>another one. Whenever we go duck hunting in East Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>we put out these nice pretty decoys on the water,

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<v Speaker 1>and we put those decoys out there because it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a pretty little duck, peaceful and calm and relaxed

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<v Speaker 1>on a lake. Hey, look, all ducks, all mallards, look

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<v Speaker 1>right here. There's this pretty little little mallard sitting here

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<v Speaker 1>on this little pond. Nothing going on here. And then

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<v Speaker 1>here we are with our shotguns waiting to kill whatever

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<v Speaker 1>comes in for this decoy. That story also reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>of your story. And look, brother, I'm telling you this

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<v Speaker 1>right now out of love, because justin right now, you

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<v Speaker 1>are still that innocent child that hasn't taken the balloon

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<v Speaker 1>yet but you you're now attracted to it. And you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I've grown feelings, which which this is what makes it

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult. You've now grown your feelings for this woman.

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<v Speaker 1>But I promise you there is only death on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the storm drain. There's only death. And

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of this decoy on sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>the pond, it's it promises life, It promises beauty, it

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<v Speaker 1>promises prosperity, it promises happiness, it promises that. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a This is a good way to go. Your kids

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<v Speaker 1>are going to actually just adapt to the to the

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<v Speaker 1>new mom. There's going to be no problem. Your wife,

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<v Speaker 1>You'll tell yourself, probably wasn't happy anyway. Maybe she'll just

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<v Speaker 1>find somebody new. It's been ten years, you should know

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<v Speaker 1>by now. She could find somebody new. You could have

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<v Speaker 1>this wonderful new clown woman with the red balloon, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's so pretty, and you could just marry her, and

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<v Speaker 1>then maybe you could have kids with her and then

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<v Speaker 1>split time. This is death. This is going to rip

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<v Speaker 1>your arm off. This this is going to end. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna end up completely mutilated, and there's no other way

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<v Speaker 1>around it. The world makes this very normal. The world

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<v Speaker 1>makes this seem like this happens all the time. It's

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<v Speaker 1>no big deal. People fall out of love the brother.

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<v Speaker 1>I would encourage you to see what the Bible has

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<v Speaker 1>to say about this. The Book of Proverbs Solomon writes

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<v Speaker 1>extensively about this because he knows from experience. I would

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<v Speaker 1>like you to read David's experience with this and Psal

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fifty one, and every other piece of the Bible

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<v Speaker 1>that says do not commit adultery, don't do it. There's

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<v Speaker 1>death on the other side of it. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a better way for me to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe now the question is, well, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>how do you do this? Justin you've gone, you're in,

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<v Speaker 1>you're attracted to the balloon. What do you do? You

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<v Speaker 1>immediately seek counsel from godly men, and you brought it

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<v Speaker 1>to this podcast. It's interesting that you brought it to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, not being anonymous and just given me straight facts,

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<v Speaker 1>which is encouraging and interesting that it's not a secret,

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<v Speaker 1>almost as if your wife already knows about this. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would seek counsel immediately. I'm gonna go to your

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<v Speaker 1>wife and say, look, I've been wrong. If you thought.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been talking to this woman and I had feelings

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<v Speaker 1>for her. I am reversing that now. I am turning

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<v Speaker 1>to you. I'm repenting, turning to God with my sin.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sinning against God himself, and I'm turning to God,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna stop it right where it is, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>kill it. Stop it right now. Turn away from the storm, drain,

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<v Speaker 1>turn away with your wings flapping, and get away from

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<v Speaker 1>this pond as fast as you can. You've gone this far,

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<v Speaker 1>so be it. Stop it, turn around, seek wise, counsel,

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<v Speaker 1>get around, other men, go man. I was blinded by

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<v Speaker 1>this sin. Because what you need to realize justin I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say this last thing. I'll say this is a spiritual attack.

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<v Speaker 1>You are under attack, the clown, the hunters. With the

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<v Speaker 1>guns they have, they have tracked you down. They have

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<v Speaker 1>pinned you into a corner. They have outnumbered you. They

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<v Speaker 1>have fooled you, have been a fool to them. They

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<v Speaker 1>have outwitted you, overpowered you, blinded you, and now they're

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<v Speaker 1>about to kill you. You have to know this is

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<v Speaker 1>not about this woman. She's just a pawn in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>But you've been hunted by an enemy that you cannot

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<v Speaker 1>compete against seek wise counsel, seek the Lord, repent, turn

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<v Speaker 1>back to him, tell your wife you will never leave her,

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<v Speaker 1>and then come back to this podcast in email. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry if I'm being harsh, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I think it requires that much severity in what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Next question is anonymous, It says Granger. As you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the comment section can be quite divisive on videos, So

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<v Speaker 1>my question is based on what I've read on various videos.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you say about those that say that Catholicism

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<v Speaker 1>is the only true Christianity, or that Protestants do things

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<v Speaker 1>the right way and Catholics involve too many traditions, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Would this be another case of the devil trying to

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<v Speaker 1>distract from the Gospel like the End Times debate. Could

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<v Speaker 1>the conflict over Baptism's role in salvation be included as well? Anonymous, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is somebody that's used to this podcast. I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're obviously referring to things that have happened on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast over our previous episodes where I have brought

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<v Speaker 1>up the fact that when it comes to end Times,

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<v Speaker 1>people talking about the mark of the Beast and six

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six and the anti Christ and the rapture, and

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<v Speaker 1>is it happening right now? Do we see it in

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<v Speaker 1>the world today? And I've said many times that the

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<v Speaker 1>point of all of that, really, or the point that

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<v Speaker 1>we're missing, is that Jesus says, be ready. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the point is secure yourself with scripture, learning to know

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<v Speaker 1>who God is and understand the Gospel and what Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>did for man to bring them to reconcile them. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bible says, back to God, because we've sinned, we've turned

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<v Speaker 1>away from Him, and Jesus comes to die for sin

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<v Speaker 1>and through his righteousness bring us to God from what

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<v Speaker 1>he did on the cross. He takes our sin upon

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<v Speaker 1>his body on the cross and credits us with his righteousness.

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<v Speaker 1>We credit him with our sin. That's the Gospel, and

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<v Speaker 1>so anything other than that begins to distract like the

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<v Speaker 1>end of times. And yes, I agree with this synonymous

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<v Speaker 1>comment that the debate of Catholicism and Protestants tends to

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<v Speaker 1>break away and distract from the truth of the Gospel.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, I believe the Baptism's rule and salvation and

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<v Speaker 1>all these other things our divisive tactics by the enemy,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the clown with a red balloon in a

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<v Speaker 1>different way. This is a different kind of sin. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're under spiritual constantly. This is spiritual warfare. We do

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<v Speaker 1>not battle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers,

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<v Speaker 1>against authorities, against cosmic powers of this present darkness, against

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<v Speaker 1>the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places Ephesians

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<v Speaker 1>six twelve. We are in a war, and people are

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<v Speaker 1>getting taken out all the time. Justin is an example,

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<v Speaker 1>and then anonymous here is bringing up another example. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is another tactic by the enemies. Just distraction, disunity, discrediting,

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<v Speaker 1>just argue about these things and forget about the Gospel.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happened in the Reformation when when the Protestants

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<v Speaker 1>split from the Catholic Church, the Roman Catholic Church. What happened?

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<v Speaker 1>That's often misunderstood. And it's not that a new denomination

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<v Speaker 1>was formed or a new religion was formed. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>that it was a reformation, meaning it was a it

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<v Speaker 1>was reforming back to the basics. Really, you could say

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<v Speaker 1>it that way. It things had things began happening in

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<v Speaker 1>the church, in the Catholic Church that were leading it

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<v Speaker 1>away from the Gospel, and there were groups in France,

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<v Speaker 1>in Germany, in England, different pockets. Their Reformation wasn't all

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Luther in Germany, but there were different park pockets

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<v Speaker 1>that around the same time that started sparking up, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>out against the indulgences, against the Catholic Church, charging people

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<v Speaker 1>to to to bring their family members out of purgatory

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<v Speaker 1>to save them, things that were unbiblical, and people were like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't I don't think this is right. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think this is right. But they were all Catholics saying this.

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<v Speaker 1>They were all Catholics. And so what really made it

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<v Speaker 1>the spark flame was the printing press. And when the

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<v Speaker 1>printing press started, then these writings spread like wildfire and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was able to consume and think to themselves, think

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<v Speaker 1>for themselves, and think to themselves, Oh, yeah, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>seeing this is a problem. I've been seeing this and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was a problem. And this guy's bringing

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<v Speaker 1>it to light and he's using the Bible is the

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<v Speaker 1>example of the truth. And so that's what took off.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't that it was a new idea. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a hey, I think we're on a wrong path.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to the basics. Let's go back to

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<v Speaker 1>what the apostles taught us. That's what the Reformation was,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that the idea was never to break off

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<v Speaker 1>from the Catholic Church. The idea was to reform the

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic Church back to the way it was. Hey, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get back to the basics, right, Let's get back to

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<v Speaker 1>the fundamentals of the faith, because we're starting to lead

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<v Speaker 1>people straight by doing these all these things that are

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<v Speaker 1>not biblical. But the reaction from the leadership of the

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic Church was this is heresy and were excommunicating you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're pushing you out. So the people that were once

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<v Speaker 1>the once loved the church, that were part of the church,

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<v Speaker 1>were then excommunicated and pushed out, and then the Reformation

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<v Speaker 1>became its own thing. What's interesting is that when the

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<v Speaker 1>Reformation broke off, when the reformers broke off from the

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic Church once again, not because they were trying to,

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<v Speaker 1>but literally because they were pushed out threatened. When they

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<v Speaker 1>did break off, it didn't take but just a few

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<v Speaker 1>years before divisions within the Reformation started. The first one

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<v Speaker 1>was in the sacrament of the Lord's Supper. People started

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<v Speaker 1>disagreeing on what this what the Lord's Supper meant. And

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<v Speaker 1>so there is the divisiveness of the devil, the enemy

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<v Speaker 1>coming in right at the beginning of the Reformation going

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna you guys divided. Now, I'm gonna divide you

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<v Speaker 1>over this, and it's just constantly a distraction from the Gospel.

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<v Speaker 1>The Reformation started to reform back to the way of

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<v Speaker 1>what things were, to the fundamentals, and as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>it reformed, it was breaking apart again with things that

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<v Speaker 1>weren't fundamental. You could see the pattern. You could see

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<v Speaker 1>the red balloon right in the in the storm drain.

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<v Speaker 1>You could start to see these tactics of disunity as

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<v Speaker 1>it as the enemy comes in and attacks with pride

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<v Speaker 1>and ignorance. The Reformation was based on the five Soul laws,

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<v Speaker 1>which is, we're saved by grace alone, through faith alone,

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<v Speaker 1>and Christ alone, according to the Bible alone, to the

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<v Speaker 1>glory of God alone. That's five and all of that

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<v Speaker 1>is it's not a man made idea. It's what we

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<v Speaker 1>could trace through scripture that were saved by grace alone,

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<v Speaker 1>through faith alone, and Christ alone according to the scripture,

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<v Speaker 1>the Holy Scriptures alone, to the glory of God alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything else really is a distraction an argument. There could

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<v Speaker 1>be Catholics that believe that that believe the gospel. There

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<v Speaker 1>could be people that disagree over the role of baptism

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<v Speaker 1>and salvation, but still the Gospel has still taking root

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<v Speaker 1>in their heart and their Christians. And so while we

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<v Speaker 1>could disagree, and it's okay to disagree. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>like blue, you like red, I like country music, you

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<v Speaker 1>like rap music. It's okay to have these nuances. But

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<v Speaker 1>when we start getting from the doctrine of salvation, of rebirth,

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<v Speaker 1>of regeneration, of justification, meaning how we're saved. We're saved

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<v Speaker 1>by grace. God does it. God does it. Salvation is

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<v Speaker 1>of the Lord, the Bible says. When we start getting

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<v Speaker 1>away from this, then it gets muddy. The waters get muddy,

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<v Speaker 1>and the red balloon gets taken and arms get ripped off.

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<v Speaker 1>Another reminder here on the podcast, if you have someone

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<v Speaker 1>that you just don't know what kind of gift to

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<v Speaker 1>get them coming up into this holiday season, consider cameo.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to cameo dot com slash Grangersmith. And what that

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<v Speaker 1>does is it allows me to get a message from

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<v Speaker 1>you and then I pull out my phone, put it

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<v Speaker 1>on selfie mode and record you a video message to

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<v Speaker 1>whoever you want it to go to. I get this

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<v Speaker 1>all the time when people say, hey, can you can

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<v Speaker 1>you give my neighbor a shout out? It's her birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>her name Savannah, she's turning ten years old, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get it my phone out and say, hey Savanna,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Granger Smith. Hey, I'm thinking about you. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to sing you a happy birthday, and I hope to

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<v Speaker 1>meet you one of these days. Well, you could do

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<v Speaker 1>anyone could do that. If you got a cameo dot

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<v Speaker 1>com slash Granger Smith, leave me a message and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>send you whatever kind of video you want. Again, that's

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<v Speaker 1>cameo dot com slash Granger Smith. Okay, next question. These

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<v Speaker 1>have been good so far today, Josh says, Hey, Grangeer,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in my early thirties. I've been married to my

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<v Speaker 1>wife almost ten years, and we have three kids. Currently,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a youth pastor in a small town outside of Lubbock, Reckham.

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<v Speaker 1>I was called to ministry in high school and have

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<v Speaker 1>been pursuing that call ever since. Recently, my wife told

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<v Speaker 1>me that she feels a strong call to missions overseas.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been praying and thinking about ways to help her

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<v Speaker 1>pursue her calling while also pursuing what God has called

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<v Speaker 1>me to do. When we talk through what pursuing her

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<v Speaker 1>calling looks like, sometimes it comes off like my job

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<v Speaker 1>and my calling is more important than hers. My question

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<v Speaker 1>is how would you handle a situation where husband and

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<v Speaker 1>wife have different callings in industry? Josh, Hey, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>the email, buddy, appreciate you. Brother. I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>that oftentimes we think that we have different callings from

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<v Speaker 1>our wife, when in fact we are one flesh. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bible says when we become husband and wife, we become

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<v Speaker 1>one flesh. And so instead of thinking of she has

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<v Speaker 1>her calling and I have my calling, instead you should

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<v Speaker 1>think of it as your calling is always through her calling,

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<v Speaker 1>and her calling is always through your calling. They're intertwined.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't they don't split off and go into nothingness.

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<v Speaker 1>They are the same. They're nuanced, and you have different

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<v Speaker 1>giftings within it. But your calling, to say, youth ministry

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<v Speaker 1>may go through her overseas calling so that you do

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<v Speaker 1>overseas missions, you do youth ministry in overseas missions, or

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<v Speaker 1>her calling is through your calling where she host a

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<v Speaker 1>missions outreach in your church with your youth group so

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<v Speaker 1>that people how you house overseas missionaries that come through

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<v Speaker 1>Lubbock and they stay with you and get trained to

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<v Speaker 1>go out or something. But but you see, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>and I could say that ten different ways how your

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<v Speaker 1>two callings could could intertwine. First question I would have

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<v Speaker 1>if you're with me, as I would say, hey, where

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<v Speaker 1>is your senior pastor in this? This is this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that has to has to be talked through with

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<v Speaker 1>your elders, your overseers, your pastors, your fellow pastors have

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<v Speaker 1>to be part of this. They do. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>something you wouldn't make a decision like this or try

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<v Speaker 1>to think through this in a vacuum. Nothing in Christianity

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<v Speaker 1>happens in a vacuum. It's a brotherhood, it's a sisterhood,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a family. You are the church. The church is

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<v Speaker 1>not a building. It is a gathering of people. And

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<v Speaker 1>so when you think through this, don't think that God's

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<v Speaker 1>going to write something in the sky. You intensify your

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<v Speaker 1>prayer life about this. You focus on your daily scripture

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<v Speaker 1>reading for your own devotional time. You bring this to

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<v Speaker 1>your leadership and you start praying through it. Say hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to pray through something with you or can

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<v Speaker 1>you be praying something with us? Because my wife has

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<v Speaker 1>a strong calling for overseas missions. And as you bring

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<v Speaker 1>that up and you say, and then I have my calling.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know honestly what you're calling is you say

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<v Speaker 1>you're a youth pastor in a small town outside of Lubbock.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know specifically what you want to do, because

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<v Speaker 1>a calling is not much more than a want. You

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<v Speaker 1>desire something, And if your your will is aligned with

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<v Speaker 1>the Lords, then then his desires are yours and he

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<v Speaker 1>gives you the desires of your heart if you're seeking him,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're close to him, if you delight yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>the Lord, he will give you the desires of your heart.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the calling. There's there's It doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be mysterious. A calling is your desire as long as

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<v Speaker 1>so long as you're close to the Lord. And so

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<v Speaker 1>what do you desire to do? Is it youth ministry?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be a senior pastor one day?

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<v Speaker 1>And so I would say why is that? Why is

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<v Speaker 1>that different than what your wife wants to do? If

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<v Speaker 1>she she has a strong call to missions, overseas. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you not want to be a pastor overseas or a

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<v Speaker 1>youth pastor overseas? Would you not want to take that there?

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<v Speaker 1>So I want you to think of it in this way.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to think instead of hers, she has hers,

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<v Speaker 1>I have mine. I think that's dangerous and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's wrong. I don't think the Bible speaks of a

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<v Speaker 1>husband and wife having callings in different ways. You too,

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<v Speaker 1>are called to each other for the Lord, to each

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<v Speaker 1>other for the Lord, serving each other as one one flesh.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. There aren't kids mentioned here, but that

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<v Speaker 1>would be another component to this. But I would be

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<v Speaker 1>I would be just with your your the pastors of

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<v Speaker 1>your church in prayer a lot about this and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get clarity through discussion and through prayer on what

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<v Speaker 1>her overseas mission work looks like. Is it short term stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Does she want to move to China? Regardless, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>should should do with your praying. You should do a

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<v Speaker 1>few trips to whatever people group she feels called to.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we feel called, we feel called to a certain

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<v Speaker 1>kind of people. Every missionary I've ever talk to has

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<v Speaker 1>said that they have general mission work. But then there's

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<v Speaker 1>always a specific people group that you say, I really

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<v Speaker 1>feel called to the Saharan African culture, or I really

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<v Speaker 1>feel called to the Latino culture, or I really feel

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<v Speaker 1>called to the Chinese culture, or the Vietnamese culture, or

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<v Speaker 1>the Filipino culture, or the Romanian culture or the Irish culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually you feel strongly about one or the other. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would test your wife with that and whatever she

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<v Speaker 1>comes up with, whatever her answer is testing that her

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<v Speaker 1>motivations are not self driven instead God glory driven. She

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<v Speaker 1>wants to out of the abundance the love, the abundance

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<v Speaker 1>of her heart, the overflow of that, she wants to

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<v Speaker 1>love God's people, and she wants to do that overseas

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<v Speaker 1>instead of propping herself up. She just wants to do

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<v Speaker 1>something really cool. There's a lot of things to test through.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to throwing some things out, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the main point is you don't have two different callings.

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<v Speaker 1>You're married. Your calling is one. Next question comes from

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<v Speaker 1>John says, Hey, grad Guoman names John, my wife Amanda,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got the opportunity to meet you in Boston

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<v Speaker 1>on your farewell tour as a Christian family. Your words

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<v Speaker 1>of encouragement and advice is very appreciated. We struggle as

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<v Speaker 1>god fearing and loving parents to shield our kids from

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<v Speaker 1>the world. My son Levi is convinced that Mav is

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<v Speaker 1>his brother. Huh. They love your family videos. The question

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<v Speaker 1>that I have is something that is very heavy on

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<v Speaker 1>my heart. I own a towing company that is struggling.

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<v Speaker 1>I've worked construction my whole life, running heavy equipment. I've

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<v Speaker 1>had to put my business that I have spent the

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<v Speaker 1>last six years building on hold. I've had to hold

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<v Speaker 1>I've had to go back on the road. In quotes

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<v Speaker 1>working construction. I'm gone from Saturday night to Friday night.

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<v Speaker 1>I always grew up in the mindset of I must

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever it takes to provide for my family. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>missing so much being gone. I'm really struggling with the

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<v Speaker 1>work family ratio. I've done a lot of self reflection

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<v Speaker 1>on how we as a family have gotten to this point,

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<v Speaker 1>and my son is too. We just welcomed our daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>Emma into the world on Monday. I grew up with

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<v Speaker 1>a father who was an over the road truck driver.

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<v Speaker 1>I barely knew him growing up as a father and

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<v Speaker 1>head provider for my family, I'm really struggling with this.

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<v Speaker 1>I love any thoughts and ideas on the subject. God

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>bless the Innis family. All right, John, appreciate you, brother,

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for the email. Has this been all guys today?

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's been all dudes today. Okay, it's

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>the brother chat man. John. I appreciate the vulnerability, and

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I understand the difficulty. I see it. I see what

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, and I want to point a few things out.

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>One I think you know the answer. I think you

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>know the answer. That's why you emailed me, because you've said,

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>you said here, I'm really struggling. I'm missing so much

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>being gone, you say, And I'm really struggling with the

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>work family ratio. So I think you know what to do.

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I think you know you need to be home, and

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>you don't need me to tell you that being gone

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Sunday night to Friday night is a long time and

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>it cannot be good. I'm not just thinking only about

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 1>your kids. I'm also thinking about your wife. She needs

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>you there. And I want to point out that you

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>said I've grown up with the mindset of I must

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever it takes to provide for my family. I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to think about what it means to provide

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 1>for your family. And that doesn't just mean financially. It

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't just mean they're going to pay the bills and

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>pay the car payment and have food on the table.

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>That's not just what it means. Providing for your family

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<v Speaker 1>also means emotionally, from a leadership standpoint, from an encouragement standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>from a discipline standpoint, you providing for your families, not

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<v Speaker 1>just from the pocketbooks, not just from the bank account

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 1>that you be in there. It's a loving father as

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>a loving husband, giving instruction, lifting them up, giving them encouragement.

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>No one would ever define a father is someone who

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<v Speaker 1>provides financially and then end it right there. I mean

0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>a big calling as a father is to protect right,

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 1>to protect your family from all different things, not just physically,

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>but from all different things spiritually is a huge one.

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>But how could you do that if you're gone six

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>days every single week. How could you do that? You can't,

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>And so you wouldn't defy and a father as just financial,

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>It would be the protector, the leader, the spiritual head,

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the one that nurtures and loves and holds together. These

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>are all definitions that you work together with your wife

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>on and with you gone, it can't be good. You

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 1>know this. You don't like I said. I don't need

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>to be the one telling you that you already know it.

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I could hear it in your words. But the problem is,

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>how do you pay the bills? That's what you're thinking.

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 1>You're thinking, this is all I've ever done. You justify

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>it by saying, my dad did it to me, and

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess I turned out okay, even though I didn't

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>really know him. I don't want to be that guy.

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>But how else am I going to do this? You

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>think there's no other options, and so that's what I hear.

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes we get stuck in these situations where you

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>think I could only do one thing, or we think

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I've done something for so long there's no turning back

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>from it. Now, I've already I've set the precedent on this.

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I've built my relationships, I've built my skill set, I've

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 1>built my resume. And if I do something else, that's

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>like starting over. And how old are you? You didn't say,

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>but you don't want to start over. You don't want

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>to build the resume from scratch. But I'm here to

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>tell you that most likely the story pans out and

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you could attest because your dad did this. Twenty years

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>go by, and your son is now twenty two and

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>your daughter's twenty and they don't know you, and it

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't really matter. And you always had a roof over

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>your head no matter what, and you always had a

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>vehicle to drive, you always had food to eat. And

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>yet you've lost a relationship with them, and you and

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>your wife. Perhaps she even leaves you over this because

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 1>you've you've more or less abandoned her. And you could

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>justify it by saying that, look, I always I always

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 1>gave you everything you needed. I always provided a roof

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>over your head. I always gave you food on the table.

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>And your wife says that's not enough. Every wife listening

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 1>right now goes, that's not enough. Most would say, I

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>would rather live in a cardboard box and have you

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.879
<v Speaker 1>than have all this stuff that we don't need and

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>not have you. But somehow, this this disease has gotten

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 1>into our heads. It's Americans in the West that we

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>got to have stuff, and we got to provide for

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 1>our families. And that's that's the number one factor of

0:34:56.120 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 1>a father is to provide for a family. And it's

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>just never been that way, and we've got to break

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 1>the mold and flip the script and instead we say, look,

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to provide, and I'm gonna work my butt

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 1>off to do it. I'm gonna get out there. But

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I have decided family that we might have a little

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 1>bit less, we might need a smaller house, we might

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>need to get rid of that nice car and go

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>to a lesser car. But I've decided that the more

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<v Speaker 1>important thing is for you guys to have a dad

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and a husband that's around every day. That's what I've decided,

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and I guarantee you everyone in the family goes great.

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>No one goes oh, you got to get rid of

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 1>the car. I mean, Dad, go back on the road.

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 1>We want the car. This is his reality. I appreciate

0:35:56.200 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the email, buddy, Thank you. Next email comes from Dax.

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<v Speaker 1>He got your. My name is Dax. I'm nineteen live

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 1>in Waco, Texas. I have a question I want to

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 1>run by you. My grandpa recently passed by suicide. Side

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:15.280
<v Speaker 1>my grandpa recently passed by suicide and my father also

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:20.359
<v Speaker 1>did the same. My grandpa was in Vietnam and left

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>with some PTSD. He was taking a new medication for

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 1>some heart problems, and one of the side effects was depression.

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Nobody knew until he ended his life from it. What

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 1>is the best way to deal with this from a

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Christian standpoint? He says on a different note, I've also

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>been struggling with lust for years, and I've tried so

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>much and wanted to know if you have figured out

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>what the best way? What is the best way to

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>get out of this? My heart desires it, but I

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to change my heart. I would like

0:36:56.920 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to hear your thoughts. Sorry for my bad reading. Yeah, Dax,

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 1>thanks for the email. Brother. This has been the Brother podcast.

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 1>This has been all good, all dudes. First of all,

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry that here you are as the third

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 1>generation man and the previous two generations have died by suicide.

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:31.280
<v Speaker 1>That is a tremendous pressure to put on your shoulders

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 1>as a nineteen year old, and I'm truly sorry and

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't wish that for anybody. It is significant, and you

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't and I shouldn't diminish the fact that it's gonna

0:37:55.120 --> 0:38:00.880
<v Speaker 1>be tough, not just the loss of them, but the

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>way that you lost them, and how that weighs heavily

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>on you, and it would be hard not to think

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 1>at some point, uh am I am I on the

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 1>same path. So from a Christian standpoint, this comes up

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot on this podcast, and this question comes up

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot. I think you're asking. I think you're basically asking, Hey,

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 1>is Grandpa going to heaven or Hell? I think I

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.359
<v Speaker 1>think that's what you're saying, because that's what usually when

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>you boil these questions down, that's the salt at the

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 1>bottom of the boil. And so I would say, like

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I always say, you're we're saved by grace through faith

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 1>and Jesus alone, and that's came out of the Reformation,

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's that's the idea, that's what the Bible teaches.

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>And so being saved by grace through faith is understanding,

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 1>believing in Jesus, and repenting of your sins, believing and

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the finished work that Jesus did on the cross for sins,

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 1>taking sins on his own body as the sacrifice, the

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:33.359
<v Speaker 1>sacrificial lamb for the sins of his people, so that

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 1>his perfect righteousness, his goodness that he earned by divine

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:42.479
<v Speaker 1>right and lived out perfectly on this earth without sin,

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 1>is then credited to you. The Bible sometimes uses and

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 1>theologians sometimes use the big word imputed. His goodness is

0:39:55.480 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>imputed onto you, so that when you come to judgment

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:04.839
<v Speaker 1>day and God looks at you and says, well, you

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 1>are a criminal. You have broken the law of God,

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 1>you have rejected his mercy, and so the sentence for

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 1>your crime is death. And then the judge comes in

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and goes, hold up, Hold up a minute. This man

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 1>of a hero, who is perfect, is offering his death

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>in place of yours. So do you accept this? You

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:33.320
<v Speaker 1>say yes, Well you still live a life in rejection

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:35.919
<v Speaker 1>of me, and you say no, and he says, then

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 1>therefore you're free to go. You're free to walk. That's

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>what's happening here. That's the gospel. And so suicide, where

0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 1>does it come into plays. It is a sin, It

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 1>is murder. Suicide is murder. We shouldn't think of it

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>any other way. And murder is a sin, horrible sin

0:40:57.000 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>which with horrible consequences God. It only takes one sin

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to be a transgressor and to be a criminal, to

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 1>be to be on the wrong side of God. But

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 1>we also should recognize that different sins have different consequences.

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:20.760
<v Speaker 1>And the adultery the first question we had has huge consequences.

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Murder has huge consequences. Murder of yourself. Suicide also has

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>huge consequences through other people, for instance, the grandson that's

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:40.400
<v Speaker 1>worried about this. It's a consequence. But Jesus went to

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:44.800
<v Speaker 1>the cross to die for sins for all who repent,

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>turn from the sin and turn to Him in faith,

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>who believe in him, who believe in Jesus, you're saved

0:41:53.400 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>regardless of sin. But you would think that if someone

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:04.240
<v Speaker 1>is going to commit murder, that wouldn't be a fruit

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:08.839
<v Speaker 1>of repentance, right. That's why people say sometimes way and amen,

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 1>grand Are you telling me that I could just accept

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Jesus and repent and go do whatever I want? And

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I say no, because true repentance and true faith would

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:26.280
<v Speaker 1>birth the fruit of someone who genuinely desires to please

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:30.800
<v Speaker 1>God in his actions, which is why faith and obedience

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 1>are always together. Faith comes first, but always true faith

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 1>is always followed by true obedience, never without it. You

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 1>never have true faith without obedience, and you never have

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 1>true obedience to Christ without it being preceded by faith.

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Those two things are always together, And so you would

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 1>think if someone murders, then that's coming out of bad

0:42:57.480 --> 0:43:00.840
<v Speaker 1>fruit and coming out of a faith that is broken.

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>But the nuances and what we see so many times

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 1>with suicide is that, like you said here, he was

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 1>taking this medication for heart problems and the side effect

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 1>was depression. So that depression from the side effect could

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 1>have clouded his mind enough for him to carry out

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the act of suicide from a repentant heart, from a

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 1>true heart of faith, blinded and taken out by the enemy.

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>So that's where that's where you go. I don't know.

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:40.360
<v Speaker 1>We pray for we pray for anyone that's struggling with

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:44.799
<v Speaker 1>suicide or depression. We pray for their salvation through faith

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:47.360
<v Speaker 1>in Jesus. We pray that they repent from their sins

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and turn to Him. And if they go ahead and

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>carry it out, at that point, we don't know what happened.

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 1>We don't know their heart. We don't know that. We

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:58.919
<v Speaker 1>don't know, and so I can't no one. I can't

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 1>give you an answer, and no one can, no one

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:03.319
<v Speaker 1>can even begin to give you an answer. Besides, we

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 1>know how you're saved, and we know that the fruit

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:14.880
<v Speaker 1>of murder is rotten. But with this guy being clouded

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 1>in his mind, you could say well, maybe he was

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 1>messed up because of this drug, but he had actually

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 1>he actually had a repent in heart. You see, that's

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:29.680
<v Speaker 1>why I can't. I can't tell you. That's the Christian standpoint.

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 1>But then you go and then you flip the script, buddy,

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>and you you take me to ask to this new

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 1>question of lust. And I run into this quite a bit.

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I had it. I spoke at a men's group recently,

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and I usually ask people to stay and talk to

0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 1>me afterward, and this one guy stays. Three guys stay

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 1>past everyone else, very last three guys there, and two

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 1>of them say, hey, we're just they're asking some kind

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>of evangelism question. And I answered the question. And then

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the last guy says, I want to talk privately, and

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:07.239
<v Speaker 1>I said okay. And he says, I struggle with lust

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 1>with pornography. And I said, did you talk to your

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:14.240
<v Speaker 1>other two friends about it? He says no, I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>told him yet. I said, okay, Well this is where

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<v Speaker 1>it starts. Look, if we don't bring these sins into

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<v Speaker 1>the light, if we don't shine the light on them,

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<v Speaker 1>then they will just fester and fester and grow. So

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing we could do, and that usually the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing we do is flip the light on in

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<v Speaker 1>the dark room, meaning you go to your two bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is what I told. This guy said, go

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<v Speaker 1>out there right now after this, and I when you say, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I just talked to Granger, and I want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you I'm struggling with lust and pornography and I need

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<v Speaker 1>you two to stand with me because we can't do

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<v Speaker 1>it alone. And the Bible speaks about this. It's very clear,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do this alone, don't walk alone, don't try to

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<v Speaker 1>battle sin alone. So I want you to tell these

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<v Speaker 1>two guys, I say, I want you to keep me accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to check in and say, how'd you

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<v Speaker 1>do last night? Did you look at poorn last night? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I did? I did. Okay, then we're gonna help you.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what was the source of it? What, what made what?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the trigger for it? Let's let's help this brother,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you go down on next, let's stick together

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<v Speaker 1>in this. Right. So that's my first thing is flip

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<v Speaker 1>the light on the house, turn the light on in

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:37.319
<v Speaker 1>the dark room. And then practically there's I mean I've

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned this a month on the podcast. There's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a website called Covenant eyes dot com. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>go to Covenant eyes dot com and you enter your

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<v Speaker 1>IP address in their server, and then you put your

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<v Speaker 1>accountability partner on the on the the server as well,

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<v Speaker 1>could be your mother or your sister, or your wife,

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<v Speaker 1>or your friend or your pastor or whoever, and they

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<v Speaker 1>will be notified. As soon as your device hits a

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 1>porn site, it notifies your mom. Now, come on, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me if there's not a better way for you to

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<v Speaker 1>be motivated not to go to that site knowing your

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<v Speaker 1>mama is about to get an email with the exact

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<v Speaker 1>site that you just saw in the time stamp that

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<v Speaker 1>you did it in. Right, Hey, you want to fight

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<v Speaker 1>this or not? This is what I say. Make war

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Declare war on your sin, because sin, in

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<v Speaker 1>its full maturity leads to death. Don't let this sin

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<v Speaker 1>mature into death because it will kill you like that

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<v Speaker 1>clown in the storm drain. So declare war out loud

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<v Speaker 1>and say I make war on this sin. I decide

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<v Speaker 1>with my own self discipline that I will not do this. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>I will turn to God. I will accept his mercy,

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<v Speaker 1>see and his grace, and I will look to Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>and what he did on the cross. And that, my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>is repentance. That's what it means to repent. It doesn't

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:13.399
<v Speaker 1>repentance doesn't mean you're free of sin. It doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>you don't slip up, you accidentally do something, or you

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<v Speaker 1>you mess up one day. It's not what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>It means you make war on it. And sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>lose a battle, but you're still fighting a war and

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<v Speaker 1>you hate it. You hate the sin that lives in you,

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<v Speaker 1>so you want to kill it and turn away from

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<v Speaker 1>it and turn back to God. And it drags you

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<v Speaker 1>back in and you hate it, and you strangle it

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<v Speaker 1>and you turn back to God again. That is the battle,

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<v Speaker 1>the ongoing war of repentance. It is ongoing. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>something that's not a decision you make one time. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why it's so hard for me to go to churches

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<v Speaker 1>when they say that we had so many salvations this year.

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<v Speaker 1>We had three hundred and thirty eight salvations this year.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know that because because faith is a walk,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a walk of obedience. Repentance is an ongoing thing,

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<v Speaker 1>so the fruit of it takes time, not just one

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 1>declaration at an altar that says I'm a Christian. I

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 1>accepted Jesus, I'm done. No, it's a walk, it's a brotherhood,

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:18.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a family, it's endurance. Now the Lord saves you

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:23.360
<v Speaker 1>by grace, but you know that you're saved through the

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:26.720
<v Speaker 1>fruit of repentance. When you just you begin to develop

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<v Speaker 1>this idea that I can't stand this anymore, can't stand

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:33.360
<v Speaker 1>living this old way anymore, because it's eating me away

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<v Speaker 1>like acid. It's corroding me. And so my brother, I

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<v Speaker 1>say this fight it. Love you, guys, we'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>next episode. Thanks for joining me on the Grangersmith podcast.

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