1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Foxsports Radio 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every night on the 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: If you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: Greetings and welcome in. 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 4: We begin another beautiful week here Fox Sports or Radio. 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 4: As the big Voice guy said, there is no Smith. 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 4: He is gone and gallivanting. Therefore, like Keith Richards, I'm 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 4: saddling up, sidling up to the big microphone in the spotlight. 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 4: I'll sing you a couple of songs over the course 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 4: of the week with some guest stars. First up, coming 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 4: off the left of the stage, our guy Chris Plank 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 4: at Plank Show. You hear him on the weekends with 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 4: our guy Arnie Spanier. He's been doing yeomen's work between 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: his college football and softball work and then four straight 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 4: days here on the network. So let's see if he 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: sounds like his aforementioned colleague, Arnie Spander. It's Chris Blank 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 4: what's going on, Chris. 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 5: Come on, man, four days in a row is child's 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 5: play here? It's it's all good, Jayson, God already fire. 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 5: Well you get it out of the way early, then 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 5: you're good. It's been good man. We're getting close to football. 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 5: The countdown is on. We got a game next Thursday 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 5: that everyone will be excited about and then they'll grinch 29 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 5: about two plays in because no one's playing, of course, 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 5: and then we're less than gosh, we're less than a 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 5: month really away from the start of the first Saturday 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 5: of college football. So game on, Micha. Let's have some fun. 33 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 5: Tonight should be a fun week for you. You do have 34 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 5: a very I guess I should say, like rotating. It's 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 5: an electic mix that' you're gonna say. There's no settling 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: into a comfort zone. Is that in the contract? You 37 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 5: gotta have someone different every day. You can't just say hey, 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 5: I like Plank or I like Buyer. I know you 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 5: wouldn't like Arnie, but you just say, hey, that's the 40 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 5: person I want to be with every day. 41 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: Is that contractually? So it stays fresh? 42 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, maybe Jason's got that in because it's 43 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 4: in place of him, But you know, for me, I 44 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 4: kind of throw it up. Scott and I come up 45 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: with a you know, cursory list, and then we see 46 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 4: how it falls out based on availability, based on other 47 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 4: needs at the network or people's other jobs and attending 48 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: to so they're in. It becomes a all right, here's 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 4: what the computer spits back out. 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 5: That is the boos very much like Dave Roberts very much. Well, 51 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 5: you just throw it in there and then it gives 52 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 5: you the lineup. By the way, I got to get 53 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 5: on that level. I have never not once had Scott 54 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 5: be like, hey, man, who you want. I gotta get 55 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 5: on that level like you Harmon I and Arnie you know, 56 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 5: runs the network. That's what he tells me. Yeah, right, 57 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 5: So I got to find that level. 58 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 4: Good stuff. Man, We'll pumped to be here. Should be 59 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: an awesome kind of a big deal in my own mind. 60 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 4: If that's what else. Glad to have you with as 61 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: we've got some college football we can get to with 62 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 4: some of the media days out there and some of 63 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 4: the rumor conjecture speculation a two hundred and fifty million 64 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: dollars to ken BEI mutumble like rejection from one conference 65 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 4: to a would be member earlier. But we'll start where 66 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 4: I know your heart is, and that is also the 67 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 4: same spot on my guy Justin Frostberg, who's just those 68 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 4: ten days away from that Hall of Fame game, and 69 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 4: his guy Antonio Gates going in, our guy Steve Disager, 70 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: who's at the news desk, who you know all too well. 71 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 4: And of course for you, Melker, I've lived in Los 72 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 4: Angeles a long time. I'm a White Sox fan, so 73 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: the fact that they're actually scoring run is a very 74 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: exciting thing. 75 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: But let's talk about the Dodgers. 76 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: Let's talk about the defending champion and all the chaos 77 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 4: that has ensued. Tonight is mystery grab Bag Championship ring night, 78 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: where you can get one of five players. It's a 79 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: pretty good looking replica of the World Series ring. That's cool. 80 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: Sho heeo Tani is on the mound, that's fantastic. We've 81 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 4: got Freddie Freeman. He's gonna be in the lineup, but 82 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: he tells people he thinks he's figured out in a 83 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: sleepless night how to fix his swing. Meanwhile, Mooki Bets 84 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 4: just said I don't know when asked about his continued 85 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 4: struggles going all the way back to the weight loss 86 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 4: and mystery illness that started the season. So all of 87 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 4: that things, all of those things converge into tonight, Chris, 88 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 4: the swoon of the Dodgers, the inability to get over 89 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 4: against winning teams, overall being owned by the Milwaukee Brewers. 90 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: And then last night, just after yesterday afternoon, I should say, 91 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 4: here West Coast time, after all of the positivity and 92 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 4: grab ass that Clayton Kershaw played during the All Star Game, 93 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 4: he was back to being red ass. Clayton Kershaw, throwing 94 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: his glove and refusing to comment, figuring he'd get himself 95 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 4: in trouble after several errors were committed in the field 96 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 4: to base running gaffs and everything else, and all of 97 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: a sudden, every string that was pulled right a year 98 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 4: ago looks like it's been snapped along the way, as 99 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 4: if we were in some horror movie. 100 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 3: For the Dodgers this season. 101 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 5: They're struggling, and they were struggling before the end of 102 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 5: the first half. Disager had this note last night, and 103 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 5: it absolutely blew my mind. Mookie Bets in July is 104 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 5: hitting just ten to fifty three, just ten. And again, 105 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 5: this isn't all on Mookie. I don't know how a 106 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 5: team that appears to have so much talent can be 107 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 5: this enough defensively and antipaus death. He makes this spectacular 108 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 5: play and then has the one that I still don't 109 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 5: know how he missed it. I've tried to watch that 110 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 5: thing five or six. I don't know if he got 111 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 5: caught in the lights. I don't know what his excuse was. 112 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 5: And then you again, you mentioned Freeman's in the lineup tonight, 113 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 5: So that's good, but you know, glassnow gives you a 114 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 5: real What's frustrating about the suite to the Brewers is 115 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 5: that Tyler Glasnew gave you something, Mike. He gave you 116 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 5: something that was a solid outing from him and his 117 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 5: first what opportunity since April Frostbury. I think that's right. 118 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 5: But you got something from your staff that you hadn't 119 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 5: consistently got this year. You got to do that took 120 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 5: me on the fourth. So it's a very confusing time. 121 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 5: I think was the hot streak of product of just 122 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 5: playing no offense to the White Sox, but just a 123 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 5: stretch of not very good baseball teams right where you 124 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 5: look back saying, oh they won, like for it, they're good. 125 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 5: But then you realize they're now going up against good teams. 126 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 5: Brewers are tied for first skate of twins. Not so much, 127 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 5: they're they're in trouble right now in the American League Central. 128 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 5: But this is where you need to get right. And 129 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 5: it leads to a longer term question for me, which 130 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 5: is simply, are the Dodgers back? Are they going to 131 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 5: be a dominant team? Is this one of those things 132 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 5: that guys get healthy and you're ready to go in 133 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 5: the postseason or has it kind of dropped a bit 134 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 5: because of the struggles and maybe some guys have, you know, 135 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 5: not really lived up to the expectations. Injuries are killing 136 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 5: this team right now, which I Mike that being so 137 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 5: consistent with this team over the last couple of years 138 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 5: is absolutely mind boggling. It just makes no sense to me. 139 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 5: But I bring that up with NFL teams all the time. 140 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 5: I did it with the Chargers much and I used 141 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 5: to get things thrown at me by Frostburg for doing 142 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 5: so and so many other teams, the Ravens for years, 143 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 5: like what's going on in your training rooms. 144 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: Right where you were this year after year? 145 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 4: And I know the Dodgers, given the financial resources at 146 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 4: their disposal, they can generally buy their way out of trouble, 147 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 4: and certainly we'll see in the next two weeks what 148 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: that could be. And yes, you got everybody getting ready 149 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: to ride back into the mix, be it Blake Snell 150 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 4: or some of these others who have been waiting Glass 151 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 4: now who you mentioned. But will he make his next start? 152 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. 153 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 4: We've seen him. Ask out right, we've seen those issues 154 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 4: through the bat how does he recover five days later? Otani? 155 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: How much will you really be able to stretch him out? 156 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: We've seen three innings. How far does that go? 157 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: Tonight? 158 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: He's going to start this game and then we'll see 159 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 4: Dustin May again. But it just you're bringing up the 160 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 4: injury issue. I mean last year they navigated it about 161 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: as well as you could. 162 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: I mean they. 163 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 4: Pulled the string at every turn, all those starting pitchers, 164 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 4: all of the relief appearances, and the opener with Keith 165 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 4: a Hernandez, although now he's got an injury to his 166 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 4: off arm so he can't do any of that. But 167 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 4: all of that to say, I mean, you've navigated through it. 168 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 4: But as much as you marvel at what because they're 169 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 4: still in first place and you've got San diego chasing 170 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: and we'll see what happens. They finally got a good 171 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: start out of do Yeah, no, that's just it. You 172 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: got these teams hanging around, and when we go to 173 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: strength and schedule, well, Dodgers have the fourth quote easiest 174 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: path remaining a lot of losing squads coming up here 175 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: series for series, so some opportunity maybe to create some 176 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 4: distance again, but banking on full health and for every 177 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 4: turn in the analytics to work right again, it's a 178 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 4: dangerous proposition and flirtation. And if they don't get right 179 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: hitting wise, I mean you brought up the PA has 180 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 4: a fielding issue and then base running one oh one. 181 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 4: I mean we're seeing on display time and again with 182 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 4: the squad some of the fundamentals have just gone out 183 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 4: the window. 184 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: But the injury issues is something. 185 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 4: That I think from an organizational standpoint, you got to 186 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 4: pull back and just try to figure out what in 187 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: your training processes. Even if you have been really good 188 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 4: at picking up the reclamation projects from other squads, you 189 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 4: know what's going on, what's in the water for your 190 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 4: own organization. Because while you can buy your way out, 191 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: it's a dangerous way to live, but. 192 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 5: It's still it's pretty cool to see show hee Otani's 193 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 5: he just jogs out to no matter that this thing started. 194 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 5: It's it's a very it's not necessarily a full sigh 195 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 5: of relief, but it's one of those. 196 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 3: All right. 197 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 5: I took my tongue so the indigestion went away for 198 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 5: a little bit. See him out there for a couple 199 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 5: of innings. Now, is he only going three tonight? I 200 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 5: thought they were going to try to push him. 201 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 4: They may try to stretch. I think it's going to 202 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 4: be dependent on on the pitch count and ease. Right, 203 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 4: we talked about stressful out stressful innings, and the fact 204 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 4: that the first pitch got tattooed for a home run 205 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: is probably not the ur second pitch of the game. 206 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: He goes sailing out Byron Buxton, is twenty three home 207 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 4: run of the year. All right, Recess, that's great start, 208 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: a great start. Well, you have him a fatball exit 209 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 4: velocity of about one hundred and five miles. 210 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 5: An hour, so now you know when you're struggling, let's 211 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 5: just go ahead and have the bottom completely fallout. But 212 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 5: I still it'll be very interesting to see what the 213 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 5: moves are coming up in a couple of weeks now 214 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 5: with the trade deadline, you know, it's still because of 215 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 5: the job their front office is done. And not to 216 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 5: like completely dodge your home or out, but it's still 217 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 5: one of the top prospects, one of the top farm 218 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 5: systems in all of Major League Baseball? And you know, 219 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 5: do you start risking some of that? Do you really 220 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 5: swing for the fences? Do you call Pittsburgh and say, 221 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 5: all right, what do you want for Paul Skiings? 222 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 4: You know actually won today, Chris, I saw that, you know, 223 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 4: that first one since May twenty eighth? 224 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 3: How about that? 225 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 5: So hold on, I just want to give you an 226 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 5: idea how behind my feet is for the game right now? 227 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 5: Boom Byron Buxton just hit a home run. It's one Minnesota, 228 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 5: but it's a h It really is kind of a 229 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 5: fascinating time to decide if your buyers are selves and 230 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 5: not just for the Dodgers. Right look at the Red 231 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 5: Sox and are you satisfied with just kind of battling 232 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 5: for that wild card? Is that where you want to be? 233 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 5: Or do you think, hey, I can get a little 234 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 5: bit more and and maybe if we get in the 235 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 5: wild card, great, but then we're set for the future. 236 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. 237 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 5: I know this, the Dodgers are not a team that's 238 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 5: going to be in any other mode than buying. They're 239 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 5: gonna be out there trying to find the pieces that fit. 240 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 5: If it's if it's getting a third basement, if it's 241 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 5: getting involved in schemes or another starter, if they have 242 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 5: to truly go and find themselves a closer. 243 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: I don't know what it. 244 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 5: Is, but Mike, there's there's no if, ans or butts 245 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 5: about it. This is one of those that it's kind 246 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 5: of hard to explain away with just how bad it's 247 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 5: been for the Dodgers. 248 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 4: Struggle bus has certainly been there. And what's funny is, 249 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 4: you know you get the shot and freud of it 250 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 4: all where folks are gonna be very excitable because you 251 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 4: got to explain that one to me, The shot and 252 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: that is taking joy in the misery of others. 253 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't have to google that. 254 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 4: There's a whole do it in song form from Avenue 255 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 4: Q I'm a Publisher, which which I have always described 256 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 4: since seeing it off Broadway many years ago as the 257 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 4: Muppets on crack Okay, and they have a whole song 258 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: about schadenfreude. So you can go run with that one 259 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 4: a little bit as you will. 260 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, who said we wouldn't learn something tonight on 261 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 5: the show I'm here for. 262 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 4: Oh No, We're gonna teach a lot of stuff. We're 263 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 4: speaking wisdom into the microphone here. Thank you wherever you're listening, however, 264 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: you're listening on one of our five hundred affiliates nationwide 265 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 4: on the iHeartRadio app. Take us with you wherever you go. Evangelize, 266 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 4: send us to your family and friend. We're trying for 267 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 4: global expansion. As always, we love to put the little 268 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 4: pins on the map wherever we can, so you can 269 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: get us at Plank Show, at Swollen Dome, at Fox 270 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 4: Sports Radio. We'd love to know where you are and 271 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 4: how you're listening, and whether you're enjoying some of the 272 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 4: current struggles of the Los Angeles Dodgers. We coined them 273 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 4: the Evil Empire several years ago. As you know, we 274 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: are ahead of the curve once the buying spree really 275 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: started going. And to your point about the wild card, 276 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 4: that's the beauty and the horror of all of this 277 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 4: stuff when you get to the trade deadline, Because once 278 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 4: upon a time you knew where that dividing line was right. 279 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 4: And now you start looking at well, here's our expected schedule, 280 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: here's the guys coming back from injury. Here's all that. 281 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 4: I'm a White Sox fan. I just want them to 282 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 4: play spoiler to somebody. I don't care who pick a 283 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: name out of the hat, that one team gets wrecked 284 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: because of us. 285 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: That's my goal. I just I was looking. Do you 286 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: let's see here, White Sox, We're thirty games under five hundred. Okay, okay, 287 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: join it. 288 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 4: They just swept the Pirates. GM was getting fired because 289 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 4: of them. So you got that. They were beating up 290 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 4: on the Rays the last I saw. Now, my screens 291 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 4: are replete with images of sho Heyo Tani wherever I 292 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 4: look right now. So you got that going for you. 293 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: So but you know, look, the long road begins with 294 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: the first step. I can't be a front runner. I'm 295 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 4: still celebrating two thousand and five. You know that title 296 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: that ESPN refuses to ignore college one of the greatest 297 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 4: pitching performances in baseball history. That's starting for hell, they 298 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 4: put a statue up of Burley last week. There's my 299 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 4: celebration moment. That's all I got right there, Chris, that's it. 300 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 3: That's it. I'm living twenty years ago. All right, a 301 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: strikeout for Otani. 302 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 4: Here, we're keeping an eye on this game as it 303 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 4: rolls forward Minnesota with the one dot delayed here in. 304 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: The top of the first. 305 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: But coming up, we've got our guy, Jason Lock and 306 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 4: for follow Chris on Twitter at Plank Show for everything 307 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 4: He's got cook and follow me over at Swollendome all 308 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 4: sorts of fantasy nonsense and general amusings on the meaning 309 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 4: of life. Coming there, and of course at Fox Sports Radio. 310 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 311 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven 312 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 313 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 6: Hey, we're Cavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 314 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 6: five to seven pm Eastern. 315 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. We never have enough time to 316 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: get to everything we want to get. 317 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 6: To and that's why we have a brand new podcast 318 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 6: called over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun 319 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 6: in our two hour show. We never get to everything, honestly, 320 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 6: because this guy is over promising things we never have 321 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 6: time for. Yeah, you blubber list lame me. 322 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: Well, you know what it's called over promise. You should 323 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: be good at it because you've been over promising women 324 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: for years. 325 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 6: Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show, and we 326 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 6: want you to be a part of it. We're gonna 327 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 6: be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk 328 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 6: life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing 329 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 6: about something or we didn't have enough time, it will 330 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 6: continue on our after show called over Promised. Well, if 331 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 6: you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make sure you 332 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 6: check out over Promised and also Uncensored by the way, 333 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 6: so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. 334 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 6: It's gonna be the best after show podcast. 335 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: Of all time. 336 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 6: There you go, over Promising, and remember you could see 337 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 6: it on YouTube, but definitely join us. Listen Over Promised 338 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 6: with Coavino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts 339 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 6: or wherever you get your podcasts. 340 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: Anything you can do, I can do better. I can 341 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: do anything better than you. 342 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 4: Welcome back and Jason Smith Show with Me, Mike Harmon, 343 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 4: No Jason Smith. Tonight, it's Chris Plank in his stead 344 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 4: shoe Hao Todi gives up a homer in the first 345 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: comes back in the bottom half and says now all right, 346 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 4: I'll do it myself like he's Thanos, and he snaps 347 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 4: a two run home run to the deepest part of 348 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 4: the ballpark. Dodgers now two one over Minnesota, two outs, 349 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 4: bottom of one. Hey, your next success can begin sooner 350 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 4: than you think. At University of Maryland Global Campus, Undergraduate 351 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 4: and most graduate classes start August thirteenth. Apply now and 352 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 4: say if with no application fee. Learn more at UMGC 353 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 4: dot e du. Joining us now on the hotline to 354 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 4: try to make some sense of what the hell's going 355 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 4: on with NFL owners, what's going on with the union 356 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 4: and everything else across our NFL landscape. It's our body 357 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 4: one oh five seven the fan in Baltimore. He's got 358 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: his betting podcasts, longtime friend of the show at Jason 359 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: Lockin for in the Twitter verse Jason locking Moore, Jay, 360 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 4: what's going on? 361 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: Buddy? 362 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 7: What's going on? Gentlemen? 363 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 4: Welcome to the party as we get ready for what 364 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 4: we got ten days left till we get our Hall 365 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 4: of Fame game and all of that excitement, which is 366 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 4: at the end of the weekend. There's a nickelback show too. 367 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: Who knew? You didn't know and you didn't care? 368 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 7: Actually I did. I saw it somehow popped up on 369 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 7: my Twitter. But what I didn't know is like that 370 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 7: they're like and special guests like Rudy McNuggets or whatever, 371 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 7: like whoever the special guy. I'm like, I totally don't 372 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 7: know this person. I'm like, I don't know. Did I 373 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 7: know this person? Like? Is this that big in Canada? 374 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 7: I don't know, you know, because they're Canadian. But yeah, 375 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 7: if you seriously though, if you see like the promo stuff, 376 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 7: there's like this other guy who they're with, who's wearing 377 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 7: like an old school Houston Oilers jersey, and I'm like, 378 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 7: don't know that guy. I am unfortunately familiar with Nickelback. 379 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go do the deep dive of 380 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: what's going on there. 381 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys probably know him, like you guys. 382 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 7: I mean, it's good to be me an old man thing. 383 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 7: But AnyWho, I'm. 384 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 3: Right there with you. 385 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 4: Hey, you want to start with some Lloyd Howell fun 386 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 4: Now he's now he's his other job. You go through 387 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 4: the expense reports JC Tretter, He's no longer gonna seek 388 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: a job in this process. 389 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: Demorris Smith. 390 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 4: I haven't read the book yet, but does this mean 391 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 4: he was complicit or just dumb. 392 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 7: No, jeez, you're gonna put You're gonna put Lloyd Howell 393 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 7: on him. I mean, I I don't think Hell, I'll 394 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 7: see how you can do that. 395 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 4: Well, just say it in terms of the overall union 396 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 4: ineptitude and some of those discussions about guarantee that. 397 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 7: Right now, I'm picturing d Smith like that Kermit Defrogg 398 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 7: meme of him sitting back to sipping his teake. I mean, 399 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 7: de Smith, like, look how it looks. I mean, Jesus, 400 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 7: you can say to one about him having a replace 401 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 7: a legend, you know what I mean, Like, hey, you 402 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 7: got a place, and he was never gonna be it 403 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 7: for everybody. And he certainly had his faults, and that 404 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 7: union remains the weakest of the professional sports unions, despite 405 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 7: the sport making more money revenue wise than any other 406 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 7: and frankly more than most of them combined. But I 407 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 7: think history won't be quite as unkind to him as 408 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 7: I mean. He came in and was immediately in a 409 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 7: bit of a labor war, and it was one in 410 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 7: which the owners were willing to lock people out. It 411 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 7: was a really tough circumstance and I feel like, yes, 412 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 7: they could have done a lot of things better. But 413 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 7: the number of people who left when d Smith left, 414 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 7: who said now is the time to take my buyout 415 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 7: because this guy coming in looks like a total clown. 416 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 7: It was a charade. How he was elected, it was 417 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 7: everything was a mystery guys themselves. I think some of 418 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 7: them didn't even really know who else they could have 419 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 7: voted for. The process was a sham, and it has 420 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 7: sham results. And whoever takes over is now going to 421 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 7: be I don't know, at most a couple of years 422 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 7: removed from the league, opting out of these TV deals 423 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 7: and you know, having this global turn it into more 424 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 7: of a global sport, and they're going to cram eighteen 425 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 7: games down. People's thoats and franchise tags aren't going anywhere, 426 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 7: and they're going to continue to play more games abroad 427 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 7: than ever before. And I just think they're going to 428 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 7: get whatever they want. And the Union is in an 429 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 7: incredibly vulnerable place right now, far more so than anytime 430 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 7: during D Smith's the controversial tenure. 431 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 5: I'm not a smart manson, Jason Smith's out on, Chris 432 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 5: Plinkson and Jason Locke for so good to talk to 433 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 5: you man, I'm not a smart dude, so I don't 434 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 5: really know the ins and outs of how this affects 435 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 5: anything now for the Players Association, because it seems as 436 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 5: if what the CBA is in place until at least 437 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 5: twenty thirty, So are we just exhale labor piece. 438 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 3: We don't have to worry about about strikes or anything. 439 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 7: How does it affect them? I mean, I feel like 440 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 7: if you read the sixty one page document, considering it 441 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 7: was a kangaroo court stacked against them as a special 442 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 7: master who's never going to look the you know, is 443 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 7: never going to throw too many rocks at at the 444 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 7: five million town guerrilla who employs them. But like, I 445 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 7: feel like that collusion case was a win for them. 446 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 7: Then they're so inept and so compromised, and J. C. 447 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 7: Trader acted like such a jackass that they collectively decided 448 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 7: not even to spread the word like that they they 449 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 7: kind of sort of won a collusion case. And then 450 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 7: they're so backwards and and and so myopic that they've 451 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 7: then colluded with the league. They can't mail the fightings. 452 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 7: I mean, you're gonna tell me how it affect the players? 453 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 7: How do you think it affects with Mark Jackson, I'm 454 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 7: more as the fans. 455 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 5: How it affects us watching a day to day. I mean, 456 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 5: we're not gonna have to worry about a lockout or anything. 457 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 5: I mean obviously no, it. 458 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 7: Effects mean well, I mean I don't know, I mean eventually, 459 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 7: I I don't. I mean I can't answer that question 460 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 7: because I don't. I mean, you're I don't know that 461 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 7: this is rock bottom. I can't remember how many times, 462 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 7: like with Jimmy Has I'm running the Browns, I'm like, well, 463 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 7: this has to be rock bottom. You know, it's never 464 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 7: rock bottom, So I don't, I don't. I mean, are 465 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 7: they going to clean up their process? 466 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 3: Like? 467 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 7: Are they? Is this going to be transparent? It's if 468 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 7: it's not, I mean, how will it affect it if 469 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 7: someone gets in there who doesn't know what they're doing, 470 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 7: Could that, you know, further hasten or prolong a potential 471 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 7: workstopic I don't, I don't know. I mean, is is 472 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 7: the PA going to be ripe with clicks? And is 473 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 7: that going to make it even harder to negotiate? How 474 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 7: empowered will this person be? I mean from a football 475 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 7: day to day watching games, you know, follow the play 476 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 7: all that. No, But in terms of the players, oh, 477 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 7: the players can definitely continue to get hosed, and even 478 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 7: more so than ever by having completely enough leadership at 479 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 7: the helm that doesn't even isn't even smart enough to 480 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 7: know when they've won. 481 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 4: Because that's always been the question in terms of the 482 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 4: rank and file, Jason like, where we've got the different 483 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 4: levels that players are at, salary wise, tenure, and trying 484 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 4: to get everybody on the same path to vote towards 485 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 4: the same things has always been a challenge. But now 486 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 4: how far removed does someone have to be from the 487 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 4: institutions to be trusted at this point? 488 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know how to answer that. I mean, 489 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 7: it sounds like the last time around, the reps and 490 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 7: the rank and file weren't even on the same page 491 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 7: as to the process itself. And if we're now led 492 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 7: to believe that the executive Committee didn't even think this 493 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 7: guy was worthy of it in the first place, yet 494 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 7: they passed it along to sort of the popular vote, 495 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 7: I mean, it's hard to speak about because it was 496 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 7: so shrouded in mystery. We didn't even know Moyd how one, 497 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 7: and up until recently most people didn't even know who 498 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 7: the hell he was running again, Like I I don't know. 499 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 7: I mean, he clearly was doing clownish, buffoonish stuff. He 500 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 7: wasn't there that long. This started immediately. How yeah, Like, 501 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 7: how did he ever get that position in the first place? 502 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 7: How much of a leadership vacuum was there? And is there? 503 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 7: You know, do they need to have an independent audit 504 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 7: and some third party come in there and make recommendations? 505 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 7: Like do they need to make it a prerequisite that 506 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 7: whoever they hire next has had significant experience at a 507 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 7: different labor union maybe ideally a sports labor union, and 508 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 7: has been you know, in somewhat of a prominent role, 509 00:24:53,800 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 7: whether current or past. Like yeah, I mean and certain, Uh, 510 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 7: there's discord. There's a lack of harmony. I think among 511 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 7: the players. We're talking about what is it right now? Right? 512 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 7: You got ninety guys on rosters, You've got thirty teams. 513 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 7: Do the math. It's a lot of people at various 514 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 7: points in their career, with various earning potential and various 515 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 7: earning past and various earning futures. It's it's it's it's 516 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 7: hard to get them on the same page. I mean, 517 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 7: looks how hard it is to get thirty two billionaires 518 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 7: on the same page, and now we're talking about, you know, 519 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 7: twenty seven hundred guys. 520 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 5: It's gonna be tough. Jason locking for is our guest 521 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 5: all right on the well kind of on the field. 522 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 3: Stop. 523 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 5: It looks like Michael Parson's gonna be still showing up 524 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 5: at Cowboys camp. But Jerry Jones is doing Jerry Jones things. 525 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 5: The bottom line more than anything else. He usually gets 526 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 5: these deals done. What kind of situation do you feel 527 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 5: like this ends up being for the Cowboys? Do they 528 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 5: get it done? Does it cost him too much? Or 529 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 5: could this one drag. 530 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: On a bit? 531 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 7: No, they'll get it done. They'll get it done, probably 532 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 7: right before this. These stars, Yeah, it'll cost them too much. 533 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 7: They'll have the egg on their face. I'll probably regret 534 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 7: it within a couple of years. It's just the same 535 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 7: old dog and pony show. I mean, like we were 536 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 7: talking last week, Garry eats this stuff up. I mean 537 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 7: the fact that there's all this discord and disharmony, and 538 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 7: then he eventually gives the guy more than anybody else 539 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 7: would have. And so you know that the guy eventually 540 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 7: gets a smile on his face. But the star culture 541 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 7: continues and certain people are propped up and there's an 542 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 7: underbelly to that roster. There's never really cohesion in that 543 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 7: locker room because certain guys are treated like rock stars 544 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 7: and you know, everybody else just there's sort of everybody else. 545 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 7: And you know, I think Jerry's gotten increasingly callous and 546 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 7: slip it with how he talks about injuries and talks 547 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 7: about players worth. And it really kind of started, you know, 548 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 7: around the Kaepernick stuff, and I feel like it's kind 549 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 7: of escalated since then, and he continues to message to 550 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 7: that locker room in a way that I don't think 551 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 7: resonates with a lot of those guys, especially the ones 552 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 7: who aren't being paid his best to breathe in their positions. 553 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean he'll get his, like that got his, 554 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 7: but he'll end up hurting the team because of the 555 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 7: contract structure and because of what else they won't be 556 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 7: able to do. And he just he's just so stuck 557 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 7: in his own ways, and the older he gets, the 558 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 7: more stubborn he gets, and it's his way or the highway, 559 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 7: and it's just going to be another I think, pedestrian 560 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 7: season in Dallas. 561 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 4: Another big effort from US here out on Monday night 562 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 4: from our guy, Jason Lock and for at Jason Lock 563 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 4: ANDFA is where you find him in the Twitter verse, 564 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 4: see what he's got going on the Wanta bet podcast, 565 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 4: and so much else than he does one five to 566 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 4: seven the fan there in Baltimore, Jason, thanks for taking 567 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 4: a few time minutes out with us here on a 568 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 4: Monday night. Next time we'll be talking about more camp 569 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 4: fun and getting ready for that Hall of Fame game. 570 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, get on Malmo and get on FC cloth and 571 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 7: from the Czech Republic tomorrow and Champions League qualifying. Think 572 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 7: of that. Take them both on the money line, maybe 573 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 7: Parlam together. 574 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 3: Malmo is a wonderful place to visit, by. 575 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 7: The way, gorgeously Yeah, it's wonderful, lovely. 576 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait to go back. Thanks for hanging 577 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: out with us, buddy. We'll talk to you again, guys. 578 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: Thank you a little bit of betting advice on the 579 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: way out for you there, Plank. Can't beat that. 580 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 581 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven 582 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: pm Pacific. 583 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 4: Welcome back in Fired up to be with you here 584 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 4: at Jason Smith show with Me and Mike Carbon there's 585 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 4: no Jason Smith this week on vacation. Yes, the back 586 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 4: end of the week he will be sampling Muskrat dinners 587 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 4: in Detroit. So if you're on the streets of Detroit, 588 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 4: look out for a guy wearing nothing but mets garb 589 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 4: on purpose. 590 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: He's going to Detroit. 591 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, he vacations in Detroit. It's where his wife's family's from. 592 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 5: Oh, very cool. I've never been, so I can't talk 593 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 5: any trash on it. Everything I know about Detroit I 594 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 5: learned from eight Mile. 595 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: It really just kind of comes down to this. 596 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 4: If I'm in the summer months and I live in 597 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 4: southern California, where the hell am I going? 598 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 3: That's gonna be better Detroit? Evidently. 599 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, there was a kid rock 600 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 4: line where he's saying, if Heaven ain't a lot like Detroit, 601 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 4: I don't want to go. 602 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair. 603 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 5: I just I always took Jason to be a beach guy, 604 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 5: like to get away and want to be in like 605 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 5: a scenic area. But as you laid out, you live, 606 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 5: you work every day in Los Angeles, kind of hard 607 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 5: to beat that scenery on a regular basis. 608 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: So that makes sense. 609 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 4: He's pastier than I am, so I don't think he 610 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 4: sees the sun. 611 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 5: Oh are you guys kind of like powder? 612 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 6: Remember that movie? 613 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: Is that what we are with Jason White? To that level? 614 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 4: But you know, I mean, look enough dog walking and 615 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 4: enough soccer tournaments for me. 616 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 3: I'm some shade of red most of the time. 617 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 4: At one point, about six weeks ago, they could have 618 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 4: hired me as one of those actors, you know, like 619 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 4: when of the movie's coming out and all of a sudden, 620 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 4: like they're in the third row and they look like 621 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 4: someone from a horror movie or whatever, and they stand there. 622 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 4: I could have been a stand in for the thing. 623 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 4: Like I had such a bad case of sunburn. My 624 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 4: skin was peeling and like got all scaly looking. I 625 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 4: could have passed for this iteration of you know, cousin Richie, 626 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 4: who's gonna play him in the In this current iteration, 627 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 4: he'll get you if you're not cared. 628 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 3: For the Sun's undefeated. Man, it'll get you if you're 629 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 3: not caring. No, that's it. 630 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 4: And one you're as pasty as I am. You go 631 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 4: from what I am to beat red really past. There 632 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 4: is no tan, There is none of that all right. 633 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 4: So we've got Big Ten media days coming up, and 634 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 4: the billion dollar question, multi billion dollar question when you 635 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 4: talk about the future of college athletics, and we have 636 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 4: many of them that will traverse a little bit over 637 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 4: the course of the night and throughout the week as 638 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 4: we go, is what the playoffs look like after this 639 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 4: coming year, because we'll have a title game on the 640 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 4: nineteenth of January. And then you back that out so 641 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 4: you get those travel plans in place. But if you 642 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 4: want to go looking further of how you have to 643 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 4: budget and how you have to analyze things, well, it 644 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 4: gets a little more chaot r at your mark of 645 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 4: the Big twelve likes his five and eleven kind of situation. 646 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 4: You're five champions and you're eleven at large, but. 647 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 3: For the Big Ten. 648 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 4: In an interview with Joel Klatt a few weeks ago, Petiti, 649 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 4: the new Big Ten commissioner, outline the idea of the 650 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 4: four four two two one. Now we'll see what he 651 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 4: does and in terms of verbalizing that this next iteration 652 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 4: in front of all the assembled media masses, but four 653 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: for the Big ten, four for the SEC and Greg 654 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 4: Zanche always you know, looking for global expansion. His own self, 655 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 4: and then we start going down, you know, for the 656 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 4: for the Big twelve in ACC and everybody else as 657 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 4: we go through. So you have automatic bids would be 658 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 4: thirteen of the sixteen as laid out in that interview 659 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 4: with Joel Klatt. And now it's the constant fight for 660 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 4: supremacy as we see teams getting gobbled up in conference realignment. 661 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 4: Maybe some buyer's remorse for schools like USC and some 662 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 4: others when they realized what was could have been if 663 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 4: not for some bad media rights deals all the way 664 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 4: back then, Hi, I remember that that was fun. But 665 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 4: for tomorrow, I think that's that's the billion dollar question 666 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 4: in all of it. Chris does he double down on 667 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 4: automatic bids? 668 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 5: And you know that interview with Joe Clatt or I 669 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 5: don't know, Joe Clatt talking to Tony Pettitia really seemed 670 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 5: like it was more Joe Clatten, Yeah, and yeah, you know, 671 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 5: but they even when it is kind of you know, 672 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 5: convoluted as going for four two and a half two 673 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 5: and a half one, we'll give that third a spot 674 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 5: in the Big twelve or the ACCC or whoever's coming out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 675 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 5: just it made it made no sense. Listen, it's not 676 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 5: an invitational. It's a tournament, and you don't give automatic 677 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 5: bits outside of a champion unless it's an invitational. I'm 678 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 5: not I was out a fan of this when it 679 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 5: came out. Mike, I don't know where you stand on it. 680 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,959 Speaker 4: I'm a Big ten apologist, a proud Northwestern alump, so 681 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 4: so good for bids. Well, no, I don't agree with 682 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 4: it in a as a radio host and a larger 683 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 4: thought process. But you know, damn it, my guys, anybody 684 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 4: been Illinois quote representing the Big ten? But TD said, 685 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 4: that's my job. 686 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 5: But I mean, in most situations, if you're at sixteen, 687 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 5: if you're at sixteen teams, you're probably getting four just 688 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 5: about every single year. If you're the Big ten anyway, right, 689 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 5: you're definitely getting four about every year. If you're the SEC, 690 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 5: you know, the Big twelve and the a SEC can't 691 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 5: support this, they can't come out. And obviously Brett Yormar 692 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 5: a couple weeks ago Big twelve media day down in Frisco, Texas, 693 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 5: he was like, we are five and eleven five automatic bids, 694 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,959 Speaker 5: eleven at large qualifiers and they have to be because 695 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 5: they can't take less the first time they take less, 696 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 5: will take more and more from them. Now that's shit, right, 697 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 5: when there's that negotiation, right, they'll take more and more 698 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 5: from them. So you've got to stay strong with five 699 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 5: and eleven if you're the Big twelve in the ACC. 700 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 5: But the Big ten apparently wants to force the SEC 701 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 5: to play nine conference games. But they sure as hell 702 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 5: don't care that the ACC only plays eight conference games too. 703 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 5: You don't hear him grinching about that at all. 704 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 4: Well, and that's where the curiosity of all this happens, 705 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 4: right when we're talking about the size of the conferences 706 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 4: as it. I mean, I remember back in the day 707 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 4: when the Big ten was still legitimately ten before Penn 708 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 4: State came on, and then after that it was a 709 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 4: land grab and bit by bit, like I actually registered 710 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 4: the big twenty dot com domain name good call were 711 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 4: a head and that we might still be. We might 712 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 4: still be aheading there as we go. But it's just 713 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 4: the idea of the absurdity of some of this. But 714 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 4: also we'd been seeing the prediction of the super conferences 715 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 4: so long ago, right where we just have a couple 716 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 4: of sixteen or thirty two team super conferences in the end, 717 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 4: and everybody else is playing off in their own little 718 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 4: sphere and navigating their own globe, which still may end 719 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 4: up becoming the case as more of the rights deals 720 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 4: come to fruition and the curiosity here. But certainly, if 721 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 4: you're not the big ten or SEC, you've got to 722 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 4: do everything you can to talk about the greatness of 723 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 4: at large teams. Otherwise you're just going to be lost 724 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 4: in the shuffle. 725 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, and especially if you're only in these projections getting 726 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 5: two bids, and that's the case, you gotta say no. 727 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 5: So AC Jim Philp's gonna speak this week to ACC 728 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 5: Media Day coming up later in the week. 729 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,919 Speaker 3: We'll learn a lot. 730 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 5: This would be very interesting week to see if anyone really, 731 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 5: as Brett Yormark put it a couple weeks ago, doubles 732 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 5: down on their beliefs. 733 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 4: Well, and everybody else still has to figure out how 734 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 4: to pay everybody and where the proper dollars and cents are. 735 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 4: And because you are my college football guy at playing show, 736 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,959 Speaker 4: find me over at Swollendome. We'll talk about that coming 737 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 4: up next as we continue. Because Sarkesian had some interesting 738 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 4: comments on the future of this college football wave. 739 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 3: We got that next on Fox sports radio,