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Speaker 2: I am welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, ran, pleasure to be here.

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Speaker 2: you found and transition into after your military career. You've

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Speaker 2: want to I always ask my guys, how old were

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was a freshman in college and I was

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Speaker 2: A hundred percent. I mean it's just those green eyes

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Speaker 2: that war? But no, no, it's it's crazy, man. I

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Speaker 2: don't sometimes.

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Speaker 3: And I also feel like one of the reasons why

436
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Speaker 3: all the services are struggling with recruitment is because well,

437
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Speaker 3: if you're a parent and your kid comes to see

438
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Speaker 3: you about this, and then you hear about these horror

439
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Speaker 3: stories of the VA not responding, not taking care of

440
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Speaker 3: their own, you're probably less apt to tell your kid

441
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Speaker 3: to go join an organization that's not going to take

442
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Speaker 3: care of you if something goes bad. I mean that's

443
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Speaker 3: what parents think, right, parents think and risk reward? Right,

444
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 3: wasn't a risk associated with this for my loved one?

445
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Speaker 3: And then, of course the other piece is when you

446
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Speaker 3: hear stats of people on active duty not being able

447
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Speaker 3: to make ends meet, not being able to provide for

448
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Speaker 3: their family, that you can understand why some say, well

449
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 3: maybe that's not a great career move for you, and

450
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Speaker 3: we need to change that dialogue. We need to change

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Speaker 3: that paradigm.

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Speaker 2: You know. I remember my mom and dad having a

453
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Speaker 2: conversation jokingly around the table in the eighties about his paycheck.

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Speaker 2: He's like, you know, VICKI I think it's about two

455
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Speaker 2: dollars and twenty seven cents an hour. Because he was like,

456
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Speaker 2: I'm twenty four hours a day, seven days a week.

457
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Speaker 2: What's my paycheck? He's like, so for someone who jumps

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Speaker 2: out of an airplane, and it's right yeah, exactly two

459
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Speaker 2: bucks an hour on active duty, you know, and that

460
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Speaker 2: was in the eighties. But I'll tell you, we did

461
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Speaker 2: have a house, you know, but we did have to use.

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Speaker 2: My dad and momare Mormon, and I was raised in

463
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Speaker 2: the Mormon faith the latter day saying, I'll call it

464
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Speaker 2: what they wanted to be called. So and we had

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Speaker 2: to use the bishop's warehouse because of y'all. I want

466
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Speaker 2: to blame the tithing because they'd give the ten percent

467
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Speaker 2: of the church, right, and then they would be looking

468
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Speaker 2: for the ten percent to eat right, you know, because

469
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Speaker 2: everything else has been depleted. But they're so faithful. But

470
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Speaker 2: then we'd have to go and shop for the lettuce

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Speaker 2: and the church cheese. And you know, I drank powdered

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Speaker 2: milk bro you know. So my dad's like, oh, you

473
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Speaker 2: don't know, kids eat cheerials with water. I was like no,

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Speaker 2: He's like, watch, watch, watch, watch, And he put it

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Speaker 2: in my bowl and he puts the water in it,

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Speaker 2: and he's like, to eat it. I just sat at

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Speaker 2: the table eating cereals with water. Yeah, He's like, your

478
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Speaker 2: stomach's not going to know any difference, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough, dad, But a dad that did what

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Speaker 3: he needed he.

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Speaker 2: Had to do. Yeah, you had to give me, and yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Just feel that our country can do a lot better

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Speaker 3: with that when you look at the federal budget and

484
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Speaker 3: you look of where where money goes and what. Oh really,

485
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Speaker 3: but I think the only way we do that is

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Speaker 3: through organizations. The one that I'm fortunate enough to be

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Speaker 3: part of a mission roll call, is to take all

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Speaker 3: that what I mentioned earlier, out of that eighteen and

489
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Speaker 3: a half million veterans right now, only half are affiliated

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Speaker 3: with an American legion or via wor or what have you.

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Speaker 2: Mostly out there right VFW and.

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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes the VFW and the in the American

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Speaker 3: legions and others, you know, they don't have the ability

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Speaker 3: to take all those messages, all the things they're hearing

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Speaker 3: and bring it to their constituents up at Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 3: They have to synthesize that they have to take one

497
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Speaker 3: hundred and eleven different points of contention and narrow it

498
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Speaker 3: down to two or three that they think they can

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Speaker 3: make a difference. And what we're trying to do is unfiltered,

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Speaker 3: listen to the veteran through polls, through a number of

501
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Speaker 3: other social media abilities to get those messages and then

502
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Speaker 3: bring it straight to decision makers and be able to

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Speaker 3: do that in a way that says, hey, Congressman Smith,

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Speaker 3: you're in Colorado or Utah, this is what your constituents

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Speaker 3: are saying, but you're doing. They want a but you're

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Speaker 3: doing b Let's talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the.

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Speaker 3: Way I think we change things in that. And by

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Speaker 3: engaging and harnessing that voice, you can imagine if we

510
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Speaker 3: can get eight million or half right of that eighteen man,

511
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Speaker 3: let's say we get nine million to join the cost

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Speaker 3: here more powerful block, then.

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Speaker 2: A percent, a hundred percent. Is that dialogue.

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Speaker 3: That's a much different conversation when you go into a

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Speaker 3: senator's office or the VA in saying I'm representing nine

516
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Speaker 3: million veterans the maybe want you to address.

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Speaker 2: We got to either do this or it's conscription. Okay,

518
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 2: it's either we sit here and help our fellow veterans

519
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Speaker 2: who have voluntarily served, say Vietnam vets that are still here.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying that we're, you know, drafted into the war.

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Speaker 2: If you want to avoid the draft and you want

522
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Speaker 2: to avoid like the lottery and the number and your

523
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Speaker 2: son little Billy's going off to war.

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Speaker 3: Because you better get involved.

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Speaker 2: You better get involved, you better work from grassroots ground,

526
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Speaker 2: and you don't even have to start from the bottom.

527
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Speaker 2: You can just go to Mission roll Call. And I'm

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Speaker 2: sure Mission roll Call has avenues where they can reach

529
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Speaker 2: out to you and say, hey, how can I help,

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Speaker 2: How can I help? How can my philanthropy, you know

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Speaker 2: help you. I don't. I can't take this with me

532
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Speaker 2: to heaven because I'm such a good person. It's got

533
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Speaker 2: to stay somewhere. So what does Mission roll Call need

534
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Speaker 2: from me? You know, et cetera. You know, or maybe

535
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Speaker 2: you are going to Hell and you don't want to

536
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Speaker 2: take it with you. Maybe Mission roll Call can use

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Speaker 2: your philanthropy. Okay, we're not going to Well, we all.

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Speaker 3: Have invested we all have the invested interest in this,

539
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Speaker 3: not just it's in the family of veterans. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean, how many people are on the internet right

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Speaker 3: now ordering something from Amazon?

542
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Speaker 2: Seriously? Right?

543
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Speaker 3: I mean how do you think that gets here? Through

544
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Speaker 3: sea ways that are protected by the Navy, exact financial

545
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Speaker 3: systems that are protected by the government, through roads and

546
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: all those sort of things that are maintained because we

547
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Speaker 3: have a military that are able to protect our way of.

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Speaker 2: Life all of these assets for US. Yes, And I

549
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Speaker 2: always say our number one export in America is our

550
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Speaker 2: military because when I do war games here in Utah,

551
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Speaker 2: which is one of my fortes here, and we dress

552
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Speaker 2: up like as the fighters, Like there's everybody wants to

553
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Speaker 2: be a Navy Seal or a Green Beret, you know,

554
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Speaker 2: or a grunt like an infantry guy right like boots

555
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Speaker 2: on the ground, you know. So when I talk to

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Speaker 2: people overseas who are in the same you know, hobby

557
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: as us, they're like, yeah, rad, can you get me

558
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: like some Navy Seal pants or like, you know, some

559
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: some authentic Green Brey uniform because it's like that's the best.

560
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: We're the best. They want the best. They're not like, hey,

561
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Speaker 2: give me the I want, like the Japanese Special Forces

562
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Speaker 2: gear if it can fit me. But they're not wanting that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Well, and that's why those numbers of how many,

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Speaker 3: I mean, of any institution in our country, yeah, Supreme Court, Congress,

565
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Speaker 3: religious institutions, far and away, the top institution is the

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Speaker 3: military when it comes from admiration and respect from the

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Speaker 3: American people. See that anytime these past veterans a day

568
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Speaker 3: when you watch the NFL or TV, there was a

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Speaker 3: lot of veteran acknowledgment where I'd like to see it

570
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 3: moved to is an acknowledgment that we can do better

571
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Speaker 3: in supporting our veterans. There's one thing to say, I

572
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Speaker 3: respect them, I honor them. There's quite a difference to

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Speaker 3: putting that to action and into support. And I don't

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Speaker 3: think we've harnessed that energy and that need enough. And

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Speaker 3: you know, if the VA was doing everything it was

576
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Speaker 3: supposed to be, we would not have forty thousand non

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Speaker 3: for profits in the veterans space.

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Speaker 2: Trying to fill these patch up the holes of this tire. Right.

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Speaker 3: Well, you can imagine if that is a federal agency, right,

580
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Speaker 3: and it is right, it's a huge federal agency. You

581
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: can imagine if that and people have lost confidence in it, right,

582
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Speaker 3: And there's all these areas that it needs to improve in,

583
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Speaker 3: all these areas where there's gaps. And that's why we

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Speaker 3: have nonprofits that are doing that anything providing a dog

585
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: to somebody who needs who needs it, to getting groceries

586
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: and many of those forty thousand or so non for

587
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Speaker 3: profits or small niche in a community, one or two people,

588
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Speaker 3: they're doing God's work, right, but they're addressing something in

589
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Speaker 3: Ohio or Nebraska or Montana. You know, they're just in

590
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Speaker 3: that geographic area. There's only a few really big ones.

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Speaker 3: But you can imagine if we get to the point

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Speaker 3: where we have a military that can't do the things

593
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Speaker 3: they're supposed to do, who's gonna fill that gap?

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Speaker 2: Who's going to fill your Amazon cart and deliver it

595
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Speaker 2: to you? Bro? Okay, Like, if we're not taking care

596
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Speaker 2: of it, you really hit it on the head. You know,

597
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Speaker 2: all of these passageways, all of these roadways, all of

598
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Speaker 2: this waterways, everything that we just take such granted, I

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Speaker 2: take for granted. Just now on this conversation, you have

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Speaker 2: enlightened me, like I didn't even think about, you know, like,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, the waterways, Oh yeah, they're protected out there.

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00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: The Coast Guards cruiser around, but you know what they

603
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Speaker 2: can't be if they're not getting numbers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's pause there for the Coast Guard. You know,

605
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Speaker 3: the Coast Guard now falls under the Homeland Security Agency.

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Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't that long ago I was working

607
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Speaker 3: with USO UH and the budget you know, was not approved,

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Speaker 3: and of course the federal government shut down. Well, the

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Speaker 3: army and Navy, and all of them still get paid,

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Speaker 3: right because it's part of the Pentagon, but not the

611
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Speaker 3: Coast Guard. So we had to shift assets pretty quickly

612
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Speaker 3: to open up food banks for.

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Speaker 2: The Coast Guard.

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Speaker 3: They don't get paid now, yet we still require them

615
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Speaker 3: to do the things that they need to do.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's not beggar. They're not begging. No, they're not.

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Speaker 3: Like it happened, and the Coast Guard is probably it's

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00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 3: just a wonderful organization that takes care of its people

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Speaker 3: like no other. And I say that I'm an army guy, right,

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Speaker 3: I believe lead Green.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get you, but I have a I have

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Speaker 2: a daughter.

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Speaker 3: In the Coast Guard. I know what the Coast Guard

624
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Speaker 3: does have a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of They fly the Dolphin helicopter.

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00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're very they and they do things that's the

627
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 3: legit that you know, saving lives and that's their mission.

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Speaker 3: But you know, really, our country, of our science can't

629
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Speaker 3: figure out a way to make sure that they're getting

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Speaker 3: paid when we can't figure out politically what to do.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think we expect more from our leaders

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Speaker 3: than that.

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Speaker 2: I know.

634
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do too actually kind of you know,

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Speaker 2: it's like they went to Department of Homeland Security. They

637
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Speaker 2: were under the military, you know umbrella, and you know,

638
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: and everybody kind of doesn't realize that the Coast Guard

639
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Speaker 2: is doing exactly that right.

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Speaker 3: And you know, when you ask anyone who's been a

641
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Speaker 3: on a situation where the Coastguard has come to save

642
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: them and the rest of their life, they're indebted to

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Speaker 3: the Coast Guard, and they and we take it for

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Speaker 3: granted when you're on a cruise ship, or you're out

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00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: on a fishing vessel, or or any number of things

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Speaker 3: that the Coastguard does literally garding the United States coast

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00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: which is quite large, and the Great Lakes correct and overseas,

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Speaker 3: I mean, we forget that the Coastguard is over stations.

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Speaker 2: They join up with the Navy, and you know, the

650
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Speaker 2: Navy destroyer now becomes a Coast Guard vessel with three

651
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Speaker 2: guys on board.

652
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Speaker 3: And I think the reason was they wanted the law

653
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: enforcement capability, which now right that the Coast Guard can

654
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: do under the Homeland Security. So strategically understand that where

655
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 3: I have a beef is the ability to make sure

656
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: they continue to get paid. And I just feel like

657
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: there needs to be some kind of an address of

658
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 3: that issue so that they can continue to do that.

659
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: Because right now they're actually talking about, you know, the

660
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 2: funding for the for the for America.

661
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: It's like it's every other month.

662
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: We haven't. Yeah, and it wasn't though. You know, growing up,

663
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: it was like Reagan and do Caucus or Bush and

664
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: do Caucus and Clinton and you know Bush or you

665
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: know al Gore and Bush. It was never like the

666
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: budget never got met.

667
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: So I, you know, we just we have to address

668
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 3: these issues and we have to be vocal. And I

669
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: feel like most veterans suffer in a quiet way, in

670
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: an assuming way. I mean, we just we feel like

671
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: we need we do our duty. We just need to

672
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: suck it up and just try to take care of

673
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 3: each other. And I think that's admirable and it's it's

674
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: it's part of the ethos of the military, right you

675
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 3: try not to complain, You take care of those around you,

676
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: you do the mission. But I also feel that we

677
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: need to band together and advocate for those that need

678
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 3: help because elected officials are just not doing it.

679
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: Now.

680
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 3: There are some that veterans themselves and are doing great

681
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 3: work to support I mentioned Joni Earst, But you know,

682
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 3: you can't clone Joony Ernst, right, and there's others as

683
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: well that are doing that. But I mean, we need

684
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 3: to do more of that support for the military and

685
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: address these issues. And it's it really bothers me, and

686
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: I think it probably bothers you read and your listeners

687
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: that we still are struggling with so many suicides. It

688
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: was still struggling with homelessness, right, We're still struggling with

689
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 3: a food insecurity, I mean, and.

690
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: That's where I'm like, they're not out there bagging, you know.

691
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: I mean, like the Coast Guard when they're furloughed from pay,

692
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: they're still showing up and they're still working and they're

693
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: feeling that they're protected because they're Americans. Yeah, working for America.

694
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 2: They're like, this can't really be really right. You've got

695
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: coffee in there, Bob, is there coffee in there? There's

696
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: not coffee in the real house, sir. Where's the coffee?

697
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: You know? They just want there and to have to

698
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: open up food bags. That was my question. So, I mean,

699
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: I'm used to going to like the Bishop's Warehouse, which

700
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: was like a religious place here in Utah that would

701
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: get our food. But we never had like a base,

702
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: I know, there's like an E three and below store

703
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: on Hill Air Force Base back in the day where

704
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: if you're there, I.

705
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 3: Think they've gotten rid of all those and I think

706
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: there was a lot of pressure on the Pentagon, from

707
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 3: the Pentagon to nonprofits to not do that because they

708
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: felt it was embarrassing that they had food banks and

709
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: that they're not in the food distribution business.

710
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: And the East three and below store, you know, if

711
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: you were below, you can go in.

712
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: And get if you're that embarrassed, fix the problem.

713
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that shop was actually functional. It was like

714
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 2: actually eco friendly. Because here's my size fourteen's I'm getting

715
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: out of. I don't need them, so what do I go?

716
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: Give them? The East three and below store and that

717
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: anybody East three and below could go in the store

718
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 2: and just grab it off the shelf if they needed

719
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 2: a new pair of boot that would fit them right.

720
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Speaker 3: Yeah, We're just our commanders need to be more focused

721
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: on these issues, less political and more focusing.

722
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 2: You know, eye wow.

723
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: I was always taught that you take care of the

724
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: people you're responsible for. That was your job in your

725
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: primary mission. Without that, you can't do anything else. So

726
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 3: I feel there's a gap there. Commanders need to think

727
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: about that. I'm not saying that commanders some commander aren't.

728
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: I'm just saying there's a problem and it doesn't seem

729
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 3: to be getting fixed, and our country needs to address

730
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 3: those issues. Hopefully people will look to us a mission,

731
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 3: roll call, be supportive of us. Join, no costs to joining.

732
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: We just need to hear your voice. And I feel

733
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: once we build up that membership, then we get to

734
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: the place where we can be more effective. But we're

735
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 3: going to use the power of this of social media,

736
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: We'll use the power of podcasts. We're going to use

737
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 3: the power of all these platforms from LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, whatever,

738
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: whatever it takes to coalesce that voice in a powerful

739
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: way and do it in a way that brings other

740
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 3: nonprofit leaders. Because there's so many great nonprofits that are

741
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: doing things out there, but they're usually niche right their niches.

742
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: It's true, like adaptive skiing, you gotta have you know,

743
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: you got to fit into this boot to go skiing

744
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 2: down the mountain because you lost both your legs and

745
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: you know you got to reach out to them. And

746
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 2: why can't the VA give recreational therapy all the time

747
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: to people like, oh, yeah, you want rector you know

748
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: you want oh you want pharma or recreational therapy. I

749
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 2: bet ninety percent of everybody would say I'll take recreational therapy.

750
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: Do you mean like I can go kayaking and that

751
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: would make me feel better? Really? You mean there's organizations

752
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: that you guys, as a military or a federal organization,

753
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: can pay vouchers to to cover me to go to

754
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: and I have to beg you for this. Well, and

755
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: I don't.

756
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: Think I don't think the VA, and this is really

757
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: with any federal agencies. They just don't know how to

758
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: partner with private industry, right. I mean, there is a

759
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: lot of philanthropists out there that would love to address

760
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: this issue that have the skill set to do so.

761
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: I mean, let's face it, the federal government's not good

762
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 3: at doing things. I mean, think about the Postal Service.

763
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: I mean the Postal Service owned the ability to deliver mail, right,

764
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: I mean not what they got paid to do it.

765
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: That's it one job, right?

766
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: And how many other organizations now are delivering your mail ups, FedEx,

767
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: all these other organizations, right?

768
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 2: Why?

769
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: Well, because you weren't doing it right, you weren't doing

770
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 3: it fast enough. You weren't addressing the customer. It's the

771
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 3: same with the VA. It's the inability to be entrepreneurial,

772
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: quick on your feet, being able to adapt to the customer.

773
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 3: And they do not have a customer.

774
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: First, it's like molasses. Yeah, they're like behind the curveball.

775
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: They're they're not They're like, yeah, you're so correct, right.

776
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of money that goes there's

777
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: a lot of people working for the VA, and it

778
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: was easy to fix. I realized somebody would have been

779
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 3: able to do it by now. But we really need

780
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: new thoughts on how to address those issues in an

781
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 3: entrepreneurial way.

782
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: And I'm not coming at the main man, the current

783
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: you know general over the VA administration of his three

784
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: hundred thousand you know staff and you know everything that

785
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 2: he has to work with. But you know, I have

786
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: had his former I had I think it was three

787
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: star general on Loot Douglas Lout. I'm not sure if

788
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: he was the one that was the transition, but nonetheless,

789
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: I had the VA director on here one time and

790
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: we were talking about exactly what we're talking about, and

791
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: he said, at one point I looked at the roster

792
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: and I had like three hundred thousand people that I'm

793
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: staring at that work for me underneath the whole Veterans administration,

794
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: let alone in Yeah, we're talking about how he was

795
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: losing folks during COVID and it was just like his

796
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: staff was just getting vacuumed a way because you know,

797
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: everybody's like not able to help. It's just what do

798
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: we do? What do we do? What do we do?

799
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: Do we do we continue to do charities? Do we

800
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: elect officials who promised promises and we don't see that

801
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: happen and then they sit on their keyster or what?

802
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: Well? I think we have to do what we're doing,

803
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: and that is start organizations that are going to be

804
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: grassroots that can harness people's energy and be nimble and

805
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 3: do it that way and make change. I mean, that's

806
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: the only way we change the core that we're on

807
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: is to bring attention to these issues. And quite frankly,

808
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 3: if I mean maybe veterans need to fix our fellow

809
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: veterans in a way that we harness those sixteen million

810
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: that are out there to this organization to help address

811
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: those issues. They all have contacts, they have friends, they

812
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: have companies, they're working for that kind of support is

813
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 3: enormous and that's how you change the world. And that's

814
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 3: you know, that's why this is important. And I think

815
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 3: that we can do that. I think we have the

816
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: vision for it. We just need we just we just

817
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: stand it up right now as a separate five O

818
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: one C three Right now, we've been a program, so

819
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 3: we have some work to do. But I have great

820
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 3: people that I'm working with that have the same passion

821
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: or more than I do. So we're going to get there.

822
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: We're going to be successful.

823
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: Already working on it, right, we are getting the message

824
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 2: out there. I have a friend of mine who I had,

825
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: and he runs the Jedbird podcast and he just ran

826
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: twenty two marathons in twenty two days to try to

827
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: raise awareness about the whole twenty two to twenty two. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

828
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: It's not so much that you can sit at home

829
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: and do push ups to stop suicide. Right, Somebody of

830
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: their own, their own mindset, is going to do with

831
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: what they want to do. Okay. I can't stop you

832
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: from freedom of choice. In fact, I empower you to

833
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: be freedom of choice. I can only tell you that

834
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: we care about you, and if you want to talk

835
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: to me you can reach me on social media and

836
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: I've talked to many people at three am. My wife's like,

837
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: who are talking to you? I'm like, I'm not sure,

838
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: but it seems like they need to talk to me.

839
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Speaker 3: And so no prank you for doing that. I mean,

840
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 3: it's it's having it's breaking that chain, right, I mean,

841
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 3: there's sometimes a phone call reaching out all of those

842
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 3: sort of things, and that's the whole idea behind the

843
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: name of mission roll call. We're doing a roll call

844
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 3: here are you check? Hey Smith Jones, Schmuckatelli, are you there?

845
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 2: Exactly?

846
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 3: That's what it is. So we're doing a roll call

847
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: of our veterans saying we need help here, we need

848
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 3: to address these issues. Let's band together and do that.

849
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 3: We've done it before, we'll do it again. This is

850
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: a new way of doing it because we're not filtering.

851
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 3: We're apolitical. I don't have any preconceived political notions for people.

852
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: What we want to do is let them speak for

853
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 3: themselves and use that energy and use that mass of

854
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 3: people to then affect change in a positive way. And

855
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: that's I think is powerful. You know. I remember in

856
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: the army we always said we defended democracy. We didn't.

857
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: We didn't practice it. In this case, we are practicing democracy.

858
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: We really do want our members to have different inviews.

859
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: But the positions bring to us.

860
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 3: These issues, and let's address it, and let's band together

861
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 3: and figure out ways to change the course of history.

862
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Really, it's true because we can do that, because

863
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: we have done that. You know, a society has shown

864
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: that we can move forward from you know, our transgressions

865
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: and try to create a better future. And even though

866
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 2: we can't fix the past, we can't change that, we

867
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: can try not to let it happen by looking to

868
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: the future and just not repeating. You know, you can

869
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: give pay raises. When I hear it's like, oh, hey,

870
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: the military is getting a one percent increase or two

871
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: percent increase, I'm like, that's just like it's still not enough.

872
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: Tell me you're giving them a twenty five percent increase.

873
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we really, we really do relook that. And I

874
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 3: don't understand why our senior leadership hasn't done that, from

875
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 3: the Secretary of Defense.

876
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: Down, correct.

877
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 3: I mean I know that, you know, I don't pretend.

878
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: To jump pay a month. I don't know if it's

879
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 2: that much anymore. It's it's like a month.

880
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 3: I get it. No one joins the military to become rich.

881
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 3: But you shouldn't have to be going to a food

882
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 3: pantry either.

883
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: No, and you shouldn't have to, you know, even personal

884
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,479
Speaker 2: purchase as an officer, because you make an extra little

885
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: bit more as an officer than your men do, because

886
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 2: you're at this management level, because you went through college

887
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 2: and to get this education so that you can bring

888
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: a subject matter expert into the situation. So now you

889
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 2: have to spend an extra thousand dollars on your combat

890
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 2: gear because yeah, because that's that's not leading by example,

891
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: because now you're showing that you guys have to go

892
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: buy their combat gear. I know. I know your guys

893
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 2: come to me and they're like, hey, rad, I need

894
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 2: all the stuff that my guy has, but for less.

895
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 2: And I'm like, deal, let's go. Yeah, that's right.

896
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we have a lot of issues, we

897
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 3: have a lot of issues we need to take on,

898
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: but it's a noble cost that we're undertaking. And I

899
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: feel I feel like we're going to make some headway

900
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: with this. I feel like there's a lot of energy

901
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 3: behind it. I feel like everyone I talked to say, yes,

902
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: we need that. So we're bullied by that and we

903
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: want to we want to expand and make a difference.

904
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find the general's name so I can

905
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: shout him out. Who was in charge of the VA.

906
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: I had him on the show, and I'm just kind

907
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: of going through those real quick. But when I find

908
00:46:58,600 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 2: it out, I'll be sure to put it in there.

909
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: He was just making good sense, he said, rad we

910
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: look at each other. Okay, So Douglas lut Okay, General Lout.

911
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: He transitioned from George Bush to Obama in the administration,

912
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 2: and he said, we got together because we said US Army,

913
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: US Marines, US Coast Guard, and US Navy in front

914
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: of us. You know, the politicalness was set aside, you know,

915
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: because yeah, he came from a Republican president to a

916
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: Democratic president, but he came prepared with sir, these are

917
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: like the twenty five things that you need to recognize

918
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: in the world today, and these are ready for you

919
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: when you take office. And so he transitioned like that.

920
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 2: He understood his transition of he can vote for whoever

921
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 2: he wants. See, my dad told me one thing, he said,

922
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: I said, Dad, who did you vote for in this election?

923
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: This is when it was like du Caucus and Reagan

924
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: and whatnot. Yeah, He's like, he's like, Aaron, I don't

925
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: have to tell you that. And I was like, what,

926
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 2: You're not going to tell me that. I go to

927
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: the office with you, I hang out with you, You're

928
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 2: not going to tell me. He's like, that's my right.

929
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: I don't have to tell you who I vote for.

930
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: As an American. I have that right and you have

931
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: that right. And all the way up through taking them

932
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 2: to the polling stations in his wheelchair when he wanted

933
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: to vote before his passed away and tell you, I

934
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: was like, what did you vote for? He's like, that

935
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: is for me to know. And I was just like,

936
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: you know, and I've always held on to that. And

937
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 2: I'm saying, why people think I'm one way or another way?

938
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: And they're always like calling me out or which way

939
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: do you go? And I'm like, well, you'll just never know.

940
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 3: Right, and you know, And that's that's why I think

941
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: it's important for MRC to be a political on any

942
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: given given day, on any given subject. Some people are

943
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 3: going to think it's left or right, and we're so

944
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: politicized now we understand that, but it's not going to

945
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: hinder us from taking on these problems. I mean, food

946
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 3: insecurity is not a Democrat or a Republican issue, It's

947
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: an issue.

948
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 2: It'sanitarian right.

949
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: Twenty two plus veterans suicide today is not a Democrat

950
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 3: problem or a Republican problem. It's a national problem. Yes,

951
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: And that's the way we didn't need to go after it.

952
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: And the great thing about Entrance is we love a challenge, right.

953
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 3: We love two things. We love a hell top to take.

954
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: We're different and we need we want to try to

955
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: do it together and that's what we hope MRC will provide.

956
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: I love that a Mission Roll Call is a very awesome,

957
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 2: beautiful organization that you are working with and helping to help.

958
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: And I know you're going into DC and I know

959
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: you're trying to make a change, and I'm really proud

960
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: of you, and I just want you to know that

961
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: it's an honor to have you on the show to

962
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: bring awareness to Mission roll Call. I have a lot

963
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 2: of folks trying to hit me up all the time,

964
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 2: say hey, can I bring my show up. Yeah, let's

965
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: hear what you have to say. And I hear what

966
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: they have to say, but I just want you to

967
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 2: know you're really moving the needle in my heart. Okay,

968
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: I just want you to know that.

969
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 3: Thank you, Ed, And hopefully we'll do this on a

970
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 3: frequent basis so I can report out to you on

971
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 3: how we're doing.

972
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: And I would be willing to give you a place

973
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: on our website to have Mission roll call post up,

974
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: like a weekly stats you can like, you know, it

975
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: comes from you. You can have it on soft rep yep,

976
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: and it would you be there, and so anybody that would, yeah,

977
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 2: they can just click on the link. You could write

978
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: like a five hundred word little something that's going on

979
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: for that week for Mission roll Call. And I'm just

980
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: saying that would be a total pleasure. And I can

981
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: I can introduce you to Guy, our editor, who would

982
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 2: love to talk to you about that.

983
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 3: Oh that's cool, Thanks so much.

984
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, it's been wonderful. And I know I've had

985
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 2: you for about an hour and it just goes by

986
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 2: so quickly, and I don't want to I don't want

987
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: to lose the friendship or the conversation. But I'm very

988
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: proud of you, and I think that your daughters and

989
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: your wife and everybody are badass. And I just want

990
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: to put that out there in the world. Uh, and

991
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: thank you for they are badass. You know. First of all,

992
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: she's west Point. Okay, that alone, that's my favorite football team, right.

993
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: I live here in Utah and it was all you

994
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: of View Utah or b Yu and I'm like, West Point.

995
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 3: Have you ever gone through a game there?

996
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: No, No, I have not. It would get you there,

997
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, all right, well let's do it.

998
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: I'll give you a little space on the website. I'll

999
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 2: come to West Point and cheer on the army Bill Army. Yeah,

1000
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: I love that. Okay, Well, listen on behalf of Jim Wayley, myself,

1001
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1003
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1004
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: Happy holidays to you, and you know, check on your

1005
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: buddies next door and just make sure everybody's doing okay.

1006
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: Make a post on your Facebook, buddy check who replies?

1007
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Speaker 2: Maybe some when you haven't talked to you in a while,

1008
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