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Speaker 1: What up, y'all?

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Speaker 2: This is your main Maynor Memphis Bleak right here.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and

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Speaker 3: the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over

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Speaker 3: at Drink Champs.

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Speaker 2: Big with the year Memphis. I'm Black Addy, niggas. Notice

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Speaker 2: the difference. Just pro pressy stones.

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Speaker 1: Now. Usually I know Bleak does all the intros, but

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Speaker 1: since he has the king of all intros in the building,

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Speaker 1: we are gonna start this off right. Somebody's pulling me

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Speaker 1: close to the ground. I ain't panicked. I've been in before.

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Speaker 4: I've been rock Solid for thirty years now, rocking with Bleak,

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Speaker 4: Bleaks and entertainer, a rapper, and now he's doing his podcasting.

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Speaker 4: So open up your fucking ears, motherfucker, because he'll come

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Speaker 4: to Pain.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's rock salad. You already know.

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Speaker 3: We back at it with my guy Pain and the

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Speaker 3: motherfucking ass man. What's uping, see you again? Good to

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Speaker 3: see you man, How you bet my jig?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 1: Look Like I like said at the State, it looked

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Speaker 1: like we're doing the weekly nightly news and something right right,

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Speaker 1: like some ghetto.

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Speaker 2: News and ship we set up.

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Speaker 1: That's where we go Marcie projects right where they start

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Speaker 1: off like that.

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Speaker 2: Oh lord, that's so fast.

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Speaker 1: Not so fast, yo, that's what.

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Speaker 3: Just for those who don't know Pain in the ass,

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Speaker 3: legendary voiceover intro, extravagant, funniest man I know, comedian should

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Speaker 3: be next to Kevin Harten every movie.

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Speaker 2: It might be funny.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna start off right off the bat like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna start what's gonna read a movie with Kevin? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna start off just like that. But we're not

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Speaker 3: gonna ask that question to later hold on. But I'm

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Speaker 3: just letting people know how funny my guy is the

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Speaker 3: love I got for Pain.

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Speaker 2: Every time I.

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Speaker 3: Called this guy, he always did, always been a genuine guy.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, this is rock solid.

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Speaker 3: If you on this platform, it means one thing, you

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Speaker 3: solid geve you.

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Speaker 2: My guy, so yo.

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Speaker 3: Just for those who don't know Pain, what made you

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Speaker 3: fall in love with then doing the voiceovers and everything

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Speaker 3: like that, Like.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny how God works.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: God always has a plan for us, of course, and

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Speaker 1: we don't realize it while it's hatching itself. If you will,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, my mother died when

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Speaker 1: I was twelve years old. Yeah, yeah, my moms very

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Speaker 1: very young. She came here from Columbia, South America. I

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Speaker 1: met my dad, an American man, and unfortunately she died

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Speaker 1: when I was twelve, and he already remarried when I

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Speaker 1: was like two, divorce, So there was nobody in the home,

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Speaker 1: you know, So thank god my sister raised me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, sister.

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Speaker 1: Like my mother basically.

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Speaker 3: And one day when I when I see my mother

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Speaker 3: again one day and the promised land, I will grab

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Speaker 3: my sister's hand and I will come up to my

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Speaker 3: mother and say and point to my sister and say,

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Speaker 3: this is my mother.

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Speaker 2: How you know your sister going to be up there too.

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Speaker 2: She might still be here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you know, we're all together, and in

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Speaker 1: those years, it's different. One day it is like a

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Speaker 1: thousand up there, right, Okay. So I mean her raising

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Speaker 1: you was very noble and appreciate that. But the only

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Speaker 1: problem with that is that she has to work, you know,

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Speaker 1: to provide, so there's nobody in the house. Yes, So

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Speaker 1: you know what you do. You start dwelling outside and

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Speaker 1: the people outside become your surrogates, They become your your

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Speaker 1: adopted fans. That's right, and sometimes unfortunately they they're up

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Speaker 1: to some things that are not that great.

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Speaker 2: But they're letting you roll.

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Speaker 1: They' letting you, you know, be part of that. I mean

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Speaker 1: not directly part of that, but they're letting you just

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Speaker 1: on the block. So everybody had like like a job

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Speaker 1: to do, if you will. So my job would be

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Speaker 1: to just like crack jokes all day. And at the

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Speaker 1: same time, I was watching these movies, and these movies

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Speaker 1: were raising me basically because there's nobody in the house.

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Speaker 1: You know, all these movies are very important to me.

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Speaker 1: So I would go back on the block and I would,

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Speaker 1: you know, say, oh yeah, I saw this movie last night,

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Speaker 1: you know, Rocky, and it was so dope. When when

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Speaker 1: when when the trainers talking to it? Get up, your

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Speaker 1: son of a bitch, Mackey up shit, you know, just

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Speaker 1: be up there doing Mickey all night, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. And they would love it.

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Speaker 2: And those movies.

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Speaker 3: Was impacted, those movies some of our lives. I wish

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Speaker 3: these kids could could relive some of the ages.

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Speaker 1: They could go to fucking Netflix see go see the

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Speaker 1: fucking Rocky that changed my life. You know, being out

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Speaker 1: there on a block all night. It would be like Yo,

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Speaker 1: do Rocky do Mickey, you know, and I would do

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Speaker 1: it all night and little did I know that that

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Speaker 1: later on. And that's, like I said, that's how God

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Speaker 1: works exactly in that manner.

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Speaker 3: Like how did you end up with? Because I met

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Speaker 3: you through of course Jay Dang Biggs? How did that

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Speaker 3: relationship brew?

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Speaker 2: Like? How do you and even end up meeting them?

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Speaker 3: Because them niggas cracked more jokes than it and back then, yeah, niggas.

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Speaker 2: Used to go to walk for that. Ess how did

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Speaker 2: y'all meet? Though?

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Speaker 1: That's funny again, how how life works is things are

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Speaker 1: always subconsciously around you know what I mean. It was

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Speaker 1: and that was one of the things the company with

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Speaker 1: movies that were very important to me. So I remember

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Speaker 1: listening to like Can I Get Open? Like back back

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Speaker 1: in the day, Rap Sitting would play videos and I

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Speaker 1: would I would tape them and I would come home

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Speaker 1: and watch them over and over again. But I thought

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Speaker 1: he was so nice. I was like, yeah, who is

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Speaker 1: this guy called? I was like, damn, the way he's

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Speaker 1: rapping and everything with your gun, I'll go a lot

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Speaker 1: with a can. I was like, who the fuck is

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Speaker 1: this guy? What's he talking about? I was like, Yo,

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Speaker 1: he's nice. I remember it said the name on the

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Speaker 1: on the TV. It was a jay Z. I was

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Speaker 1: all right, cool, you know, keep keeping in mind. And

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Speaker 1: then he came out in my lifetime. And then I

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Speaker 1: got into the music business. I was working for Around

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Speaker 1: the Globe, which is like a promotion company, eventually turned

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Speaker 1: to Penalty and eventually signed Noriega and Capone, and I

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Speaker 1: was handing out stickers and flyers and we were working

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Speaker 1: with this guy named Ray.

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Speaker 2: Ray Ray with me man.

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Speaker 1: He looked so Ray Ray, you know. It was the

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Speaker 1: main promotion person at the company there, and they would

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Speaker 1: do promo stuff for every label, and they were doing

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Speaker 1: stuff with Payday. So Dame would come record they shout

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Speaker 1: out to miss the Wall and everybody over up. So

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Speaker 1: they would come to Around the Globe to try to

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Speaker 1: Home was on there? What the other act was shout

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Speaker 1: out group Home Home was no home.

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: They might be one of the groups that had the

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Speaker 3: best beats at Alla's project.

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Speaker 1: That's PA's baby Malotta Nutcracker, and they were so dope.

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Speaker 3: Man, bring back in the days, hey day. I remember

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Speaker 3: the stickers from all life.

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Speaker 1: Well that's saying.

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Speaker 3: Stickers were real important stickers with everything everything, and that's

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Speaker 3: one of the things that you know was important at

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Speaker 3: the very early you know, baby infant stages of Rockefellers.

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Speaker 1: We had had a dope sticker. So we wanted to

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Speaker 1: flood the city and let people know that jay Z

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Speaker 1: is that dude.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people don't probably know that Jan was

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Speaker 3: a little mad at the end of my lifetime.

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Speaker 2: Stickers.

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Speaker 3: Remember they popped crystal, they put the moat bottles on them.

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Speaker 1: They gave him the four point.

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Speaker 2: They don't do that, but you know they sticks. It's crazy, man.

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Speaker 1: But Ray was on there at around the Globe and

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Speaker 1: they would Dane would come and they would like utilize

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Speaker 1: them for whatever they needed. Now, Ray had a roommate

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Speaker 1: that worked at Payday name Garvin. I remember Garvin Garnet.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Garvin worked at Rockefeller Garnet. So Garnet when

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Speaker 1: they decided to open up their own label, was asked

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Speaker 1: to come work at Rockefeller. But he was at pay

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Speaker 1: day and that was like, you know, it was solidified.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't take a chance going to like a ya,

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Speaker 1: no disrespect to.

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Speaker 3: It was a dream bro back then. Exactly, if you

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Speaker 3: got a solidified check, you stick with.

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Speaker 1: The music business. You definitely stayed with that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but he fucked up up he did, but he

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Speaker 2: did what he did.

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Speaker 1: What it was smart was was he's like, I can't

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Speaker 1: work for you, but i'll help you. Why don't you

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Speaker 1: let my roommate Ray Ray work with you. So Ray

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Speaker 1: decided to come over the Rockefeller. He ran the steam,

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Speaker 1: So we were still there, me and terns of my boy.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's the one that introduced me to the

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Speaker 1: to the to the game and everything. So I remember

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Speaker 1: he was telling me, like your called Ray. You know

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Speaker 1: he's a Rockefeller, and the Rockefeller had such a huge

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Speaker 1: buzz at that point. They had a record company and

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Speaker 1: the label was that in Wall Street, and you know,

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Speaker 1: they they were like different, they were doing things.

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Speaker 2: Oh my office was.

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Speaker 3: Bad though it sounded fly, but it was bad. It

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Speaker 3: was It was okay, but only.

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Speaker 2: Colleen all the baby they held the agent. You gotta

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Speaker 2: think about our brand branch.

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Speaker 1: Well not at that point. Our branch wasn't at the

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Speaker 1: very beginning.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, Christy Clifford, Christy shout out, Chrissy still

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Speaker 3: Christy good good.

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Speaker 2: Christy was the was the promoter back this year.

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Speaker 1: She was sho. She used to managed probably still does

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Speaker 1: Kickapri and yat yeah ca and eventually started managing the locks.

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Speaker 2: Yep, she still got her manager had on. Yeah. She

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Speaker 2: shout out, Chrissy, man.

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Speaker 1: Your coll ray and asked if we could go up

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Speaker 1: there and do the street team thing for you know,

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Speaker 1: rocket for us. We get the fuck out of here,

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Speaker 1: because you know, that's like, you know, a regular label.

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Speaker 1: It was corny. So we call up, I call up.

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Speaker 1: He makes me do it. You know, of course you know.

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Speaker 2: He puts it.

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Speaker 1: I was like, you know what to he likes you better,

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Speaker 1: like cool, So I called him, yo, yo, ry man,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Man? Y'all heard you over a rocket

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Speaker 1: from that? Can we come over and do the street team?

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Speaker 1: It's like, nah, dogs, we got professionals for that. I

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Speaker 3: Of course same thing I did. I remember when they

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Speaker 1: And as what what like what the niggas talk about?

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Speaker 3: I don't understand, right, That's why I expressed that feeling

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Speaker 3: You had to steal one of those and somebody didn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I wasn't the next artist as of yet.

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Speaker 2: At that time. Rock was just brewing.

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Speaker 1: It was rough. It was Roughness was there too, and

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Speaker 2: You know, I never met Roughly? Are you serious?

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Speaker 3: I heard about her, that she was the artist that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I met them to my guys, you know

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Speaker 1: Know what it was. Who's roughness? Right? But that was

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Speaker 1: you know what, It meant a lot to me.

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Speaker 2: And I was still trying to get on, get in

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Speaker 1: I was still on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Painting, I remember talking to you about the jacket.

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Speaker 3: You showed me the jack at the Rockefeller Records logo

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Speaker 1: I still have that, and give me a jacket. I

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Speaker 2: Jack as you should. Man.

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Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, when they had the museum

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, he goes, can you do it

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, brought them the jacket to rock Nation and they

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Speaker 1: I got, I got, Yeah, I got both. Now I

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Speaker 2: So, was that the was that the old logo of

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Speaker 3: The one with the with the bottle, which should have been,

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Speaker 2: Yours.

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Speaker 1: We're we're drinking champagne in the club and now you

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Speaker 3: That doing this big like dude saying you know your baby,

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Speaker 3: that's right, we do what we say. But if so,

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Speaker 3: we're back in the days we used to drink champagne

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Speaker 3: and clubs.

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Speaker 1: Like nobody drinks champagne.

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Speaker 2: And clubs, No they do, they do that.

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Speaker 1: Don't popping champagne anymore?

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Speaker 3: Like the New York vibe and the clubs is like

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Speaker 3: a man, I'm trying to restore the feeling in New

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Speaker 3: York with that. But you go to Vegas, go to Miami,

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Speaker 3: let them soccer players pull up in the club. You'll

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Speaker 3: see so many bottles of champagne. You think they bought

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Speaker 3: it in theyself. That's crazy, Like it's insane, gess, you

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Speaker 3: know what I.

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Speaker 1: Always wanted to do, like someone popped the bottles, you

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Speaker 1: know how I'll pole used to like smash the cake

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Speaker 1: bucket and like dump it on someone like it says

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Speaker 1: like he actually he's cool with it, like like deep

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Speaker 1: the dudes like back in the days, they usually have

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Speaker 2: Yo.

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Speaker 3: Remember that weird about getting jumped into a crew.

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Speaker 1: It's like, don't lie, you know, deep down the side,

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Speaker 1: you still feel animosity for those mothers. Jump for that

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Speaker 1: one kick. Focus on you, motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: Really, that's how you got.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be the first one to get flipped on.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna set you the fuck up something, which is

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Speaker 1: weird because jumping someone to get into something is crazy,

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Speaker 3: And then you know it's crazy. They jump you to

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Speaker 3: get in and then y'all have a fight and they

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Speaker 2: It's crazy about that. You know.

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Speaker 1: I got jumped into the internal Rockefeller.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah right, jump me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, he jump me? Man, I see the campagine,

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Speaker 1: But that would be.

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Speaker 3: Crazy, look to be like jumped in and made it

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Speaker 3: like that. But you gotta get to beat the ship

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Speaker 3: out of him to get in there, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. Different back there, it wasn't that serious, but

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Speaker 2: That changed and change change? Because I remember Jay.

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Speaker 3: You know, Jay used to come around play the songs,

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Speaker 3: you know, cashme and thoughts different songs. Jay violated too,

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Speaker 3: because I remember he pulled up to the projects. I'm outside.

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Speaker 3: When he played Ain't No Nigga, they had Foxy on it.

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Speaker 3: So he played the record and he's like, yo, what

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Speaker 3: you think. I'm like, that should crack right there, I

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Speaker 3: should fire. And he looked at me and said, how

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Speaker 2: You should feel.

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Speaker 3: Embarrassed that a girl is nicer than you. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: all right now I'm in the crib dissing Foxy. Oh

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Speaker 3: you nah man.

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Speaker 2: But back then, you know, I used to just write

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Speaker 2: rhymes listening like how it were? How is she better

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Speaker 3: But Jay used to do things to inspire you, absolutely

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Speaker 3: help you get better. So I always wondered, how did

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Speaker 1: Well, like I said, due to the fact that my

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Speaker 1: when I would go to my friend's house and watch

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Speaker 1: That's like a very hurtful feeling. Now I am going

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Speaker 1: to bring everything together. I know you ask your question

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Speaker 1: and like, what the fuck is you talking about his

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Speaker 1: and you have a certain expectation. Yes, all these girls,

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Speaker 2: It's that and it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's not. They actually wanted me to work. They actually

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, right, things.

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Speaker 1: Down, there's no girls at all. So due to the

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Speaker 1: kind of like getting not brainwashed, but these movies were

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Speaker 1: and I try to you know, kick game. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: I ignored me and went straight to like the main

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Speaker 1: Jay Damon Bigg's office. Oh wow, I just got ignored.

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Speaker 1: I was like, damn. And now somebody's like, yo, go

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Speaker 1: get me some coffee. I'm like, what the fuck? Is

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Speaker 1: this the same the music business that I want to

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Speaker 1: be in. So I'm like, yo, I'm out.

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Speaker 2: I'm out of here.

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Speaker 1: So if I was going to leave though, I wanted

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Speaker 1: chill right, And it was like a silence.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah. There's a lot of girls working in the

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Speaker 1: So I was like, oh shit, they're about to throw

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Speaker 1: for the internship and I hear all of a sudden, I.

442
00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,240
Speaker 3: Think it's got them straps. Yeah, it was strapped, shorty,

443
00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:39,200
Speaker 3: not that strap were laughing, yeah, oh shit, okay.

444
00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,400
Speaker 1: So there was somebody else in the office I didn't

445
00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,640
Speaker 1: really like, so I cursed them out right there too,

446
00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,240
Speaker 1: so fuck you too, What the fuck are you looking at?

447
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:48,320
Speaker 1: Another laugh?

448
00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,280
Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, okay.

449
00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,480
Speaker 1: I went home that night and I cursed out somebody

450
00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,120
Speaker 1: in my neighborhood. Nothing happened. I said, all right, maybe

451
00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,760
Speaker 1: I'm onto something. So I decided to go back. But

452
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,800
Speaker 1: now I was a little bit more overt more. I'm

453
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,440
Speaker 1: looking back now, aggressive is a good word, but looking

454
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,440
Speaker 1: back now, I was channeling my anger not in such

455
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,639
Speaker 1: a positive way because I'm cursing people out, which is

456
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,359
Speaker 1: not good. I don't advise you do that. But for

457
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,760
Speaker 1: the first time, I felt heard, even though I was

458
00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,040
Speaker 1: saying something very negatigative, and looking back, I apologize it

459
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,840
Speaker 1: was wrong, because you know, it's a forty something you're

460
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 1: all mad at eighteen when the world is coming down

461
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 1: at you. I liked it. I like that feeling. So

462
00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,919
Speaker 1: I began going back and going back and just you know,

463
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,639
Speaker 1: acting out the movies. And I noticed that Jay was

464
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 1: a big fan of the movies that I like. So

465
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 1: when I'm in there talking like that, all the time,

466
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,399
Speaker 1: it's like, fuck that shit, do you want something to

467
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 1: call me? Okay, So all of a sudden, they loving it.

468
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 1: They're loving it, and I got to give a big

469
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 1: shout out to this person because this was my main champion,

470
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,639
Speaker 1: the main person that was really just rooting for me

471
00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:59,119
Speaker 1: the most is.

472
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 2: Bigs bigs Man. Shout out the O G.

473
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,399
Speaker 1: Biggs would have me come into his office, Yo do

474
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 1: the movies, saying like you know, it was just do

475
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 1: Colito's way or do something like that. And then they

476
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 1: started become a little bit of a ground swell, like

477
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 1: people like, yo, you gotta put him on an album.

478
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 1: I remember the first person that said that was Big

479
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,719
Speaker 1: or you gotta put him on the album. Then all

480
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden, other people came like you know, because

481
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 1: there was two factions. It was Harlem and then there

482
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 1: was Brooklyn. So you know, it was like everybody came

483
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 1: to there, like you got to put him on album,

484
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 1: you gottaut him. I'm doing the crazy shit that he's

485
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 1: doing here in the office now. I thought at the time,

486
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,439
Speaker 1: and that's whatever if it does happen, like you know,

487
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 1: how much do you really remember a skit.

488
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 2: Or no you remember?

489
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 1: I never thought like that. So I remember one day,

490
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,239
Speaker 1: after a long time of everybody like you gotta put

491
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 1: him on the album, you gotta put the album, Jay

492
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 1: called me into his office, sat me down and goes

493
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,359
Speaker 1: to me, Yeah, how you feel you're going to be

494
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 1: on a classic album? I was like, sounds fun for me, man,

495
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, but it's so funny that he knew already,

496
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 1: he knew the joint was going to be classic. And

497
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 1: you being next to him, being in the same neighborhood,

498
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 1: being in the same building, on the same.

499
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 2: Floor, No, no, no, he lived on the fifth you

500
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 2: on you.

501
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 1: Two floors away. Yes, you know how important that album

502
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: is to him?

503
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, that was baby.

504
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: What it took to make that album, what it took

505
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: to get to a point where even to have an album.

506
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 3: Rest in peace, clock camp Man big shout out the

507
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 3: clock can.

508
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: He played a major, major, major role.

509
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 1: And reasonable and he played a major ski like you know,

510
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 1: like those was the guys. So it always is mind

511
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 1: boggling to me. And and you, like I said, from

512
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: being so close, is that after all that work, after

513
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: everything that happened, after everything that transpired, that album is

514
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 1: so classic. And the first thing you hear when you

515
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 1: press play. It's you, that's right, And like I said,

516
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: it can only be God. I know, you know, people

517
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: gonna misconstrue this with the cursing and fuck you this

518
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: and that. But I'm really a believer in God, and

519
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: so I can't believe that he did that for me

520
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 1: that I can't believe that he, after my mother died,

521
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 1: took me to the block where I would watch these

522
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: movies do it for these people. That would just kind

523
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: of like practice for me to get to this point,

524
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 1: to be there and then to find my way somehow

525
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 1: onto one of the greatest pieces of work that the

526
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: genre has to offer.

527
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 2: That's right.

528
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 1: And we're Hall of famers now right in the Rock

529
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame.

530
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 2: Same for Shell my brother, congratulate.

531
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 1: Your voice is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

532
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 3: And that was my purpose of wanting you on this

533
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 3: platform because a lot of people don't They might not

534
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 3: know the face, the person, you know, the man behind

535
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 3: the voice, behind the skin. You know, people don't know

536
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 3: how talented everybody is. They don't get to see area.

537
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 3: And you're not a very visual guy like you ain't

538
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 3: out there making skits like on YouTube and Instagram, like

539
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 3: the rest of these, you know, social media comedians like

540
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 3: I don't really see you chasing that like that.

541
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: Like them come from a different era, you know what

542
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And we ran from the to me to me,

543
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,959
Speaker 1: to me that being on that block doing that was

544
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: my social media platform.

545
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 3: And it's hard to get I don't go live and

546
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 3: do the things that the young guys do that I'm

547
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 3: supposed to do, you know what I'm saying.

548
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: So you need to of course, you get live, get lived, Joe.

549
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: This safe for that. We ain't doing this. Listen no

550
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: place in Joe.

551
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 3: So after what I was just saying about how you

552
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: even met because I met you after Yes, that's when

553
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 3: I came in and we're.

554
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: The same age, so we kind of came up together,

555
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: if you will.

556
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 3: After the album was released, let me let the people

557
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 3: know the wars you and Dame had bro Oh my jesus.

558
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 3: You know Dame Dash is a snapper and then with

559
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 3: this guy with the jokes, they used to go at it.

560
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: But you know, I got nothing but respect for I'll

561
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: tell you why. I'll tell you why. There's a difference

562
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: between I remember I was watching a documentary about Biggie

563
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: and they were talking about there was a writer, a

564
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: dream Hampton. I know you, okay, yes, of course. She

565
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: was talking about the relationship between Big and Pac when

566
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: Big first started out. She said that, and it always

567
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: stuck with me because it made so much sense. He

568
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: said that Big knew that Pac was real, but more importantly,

569
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 1: Big knew that Pac was being real with him. So

570
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: now you hear that word floating around a lot. Oh,

571
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: he's real, this person's real. I knew Damon was being

572
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: real with me, and he used to punch me in

573
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: my arm all the time when I would act out,

574
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: like with the laughing at the cursing of the girl.

575
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: They laughed. But then after that he grabbed me in

576
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 1: the room, so I punched him, but like a big

577
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: brother almost, you know what I mean. He was always

578
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: also a very big proponent of trying to get me

579
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: into like, you know, rooms and stuff like that that

580
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: I didn't really belong in, you know what I mean.

581
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm an intern and he I am arguing with him

582
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: about the album in his office. I don't see that

583
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: happen in any other label. You're not going into le

584
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: Or Cohen's office as an internate with me. You know,

585
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: we should do the ask me a thought as a signal,

586
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: like we would argue that, yes, he wouldn't kick me out,

587
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: he wouldn't listening and converse with me.

588
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: That's right, he was being real with me. Dane was

589
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: definitely good for that.

590
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: He listened to everybody from the interns to the workers,

591
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 3: to the artists to the producers. He definitely listened man

592
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 3: like he did got it. I always respect him. I

593
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 3: would never, never, never talk bad about Dang. You know,

594
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: shout out Dang.

595
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 1: Shout out to everything that he's doing. And it's so

596
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: great that everyone's doing other things.

597
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring you back to a memory though that

598
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 3: you probably don't remember.

599
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 2: Listen. So it was a release party for a reasonable doubt, right, Okay,

600
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: this is the job. Yep.

601
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: This is the first time I seen get in trouble

602
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: with Dave Jay Biggs where everybody was bad. We had

603
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 3: an ill party in there, chilling wilin celebrating the album release.

604
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 3: We get out outside getting the limo and you standing

605
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 3: through the subroof for the limo.

606
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: Piss it out the.

607
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: Sun swimming money ain't the thing, right, they said, say

608
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: you got you out the sun room. I'm pissing out

609
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: the s room, money.

610
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: Anything, peeling off the lip bow shade, David nigga be like, yo,

611
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 3: get this nigg off the car somebody, yo.

612
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: I remember they was mad at you. They made you

613
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: do push it yeah.

614
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then David just touched me in my arm

615
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: like real, I think I got like bruises still from

616
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: that ship. I rememberbout thirty years ago.

617
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: I remember I had to go to the bathroom, like,

618
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: who the hell is this guy right here?

619
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: Man, I'll never forget. Dame got pissed at me one time.

620
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: I mean literally, right, I mean pissed me right. I

621
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: was we were in the studio. We were in one

622
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: of these studios and this is later on though. You know,

623
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: I had to go to the bathroom. But I was

624
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,719
Speaker 1: in the booth and you know what it's like when

625
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: you're in the pool.

626
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 2: I'm in the zone.

627
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, yo, on the fucking zone. I'm drinking

628
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: back then with drink, having rain pee in the booth.

629
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 2: Yo.

630
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: I had to go yo, I had bin blink. I

631
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: saw it was a dog walking around the studio. So

632
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: the owner owned the dog. It was like a dog

633
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: walking around the dog Yeah yet right my dogs. I

634
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: was like so they called the label. They called the

635
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: label afterwards, what the fuck? And the dame calls me

636
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: into the Are you crazy? I said, you dam it

637
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: wasn't me, It was the dog. He goes, motherfucker. The

638
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: owner said that he smelled it was human. Pissed, I said,

639
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: how the fuck do you know the difference between dog

640
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: urine and human? Hearing Probation office, you can tell the

641
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: difference between dog urine and human urine.

642
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: That's different. He knew, he knew the deal, but you peed.

643
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: In thega that was solitary confinement and he died the booth.

644
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: But I didn't piss like directly. I pissed in a

645
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: cup and I don't know for some reason, I just

646
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: like like threw it up like like like New Year's

647
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: Eve or something like that, and it flashed. It wasn't

648
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: like it wasn't like a Bart Simpson urination, Like you're

649
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: not thinking the Simpson Like this was like like some

650
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: splash like you know what it looked like. You ever

651
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: been a Great Adventure or like.

652
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: One of those like theme parks where they had like

653
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: that wooden like coach that goes down the water, but

654
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 3: then there's people like standing on the bridge, you know

655
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: what I mean, and they get splashed out of nowhere

656
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 3: like that's like that's the effect that it kind of

657
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 3: had like that, like like like going down the pipeline

658
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 3: and it's like that.

659
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: I think it made the effect too. But you know what,

660
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: as crazy as that all is, I can't believe that

661
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: they accepted me back every time that every turn.

662
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: No matter what you did, no matter how much they

663
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 3: was mad the night before the next day paying in

664
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 3: the office, but what thing they was, I still got

665
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: scornny on all.

666
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: The trouble I did. You would think I looked like

667
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: pop By the sailor man, motherfucker, look like I'm doing

668
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: no But you don't understand what that means to somebody

669
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: when they lost their mother and they have nothing and

670
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: you could do no wrong. And I mean even though

671
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: yes I get in trouble, but it was an acceptance

672
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: that I just.

673
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: It was I needed that we was a brotherhood. If

674
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: we was in college fraternit, yes we are. I ain't

675
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: gonna say we'd have been a gang because.

676
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: It was in a gang business already to be on

677
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: some shoot him up, bang bang, But we definitely if

678
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: we were school kids with little bit of frat. Now

679
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: we were a frat. We were a frat.

680
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: It was family like everybody that worked their care for

681
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 3: each other. Everybody took their job serious and every single

682
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: person in Rockefeller wanted.

683
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: To see jay Z win.

684
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

685
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: That was that was the number one agenda on everybody mind.

686
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: That's the one thing I respect.

687
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: And you know what I think was the most important

688
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: thing of all. And I don't want to turn this

689
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: into like you know how people talk. I read the

690
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: fucking comments, asshole. You talk about jay Z on the.

691
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: Time, we got stories.

692
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: We know him, we know him, and he grew up

693
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: with him.

694
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: Talking about a lot of this stuff without mentioning are

695
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: you talking from politics? And you from the beginning, like

696
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: I tell people, I'm from when the rock was a pebble,

697
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: you met roughness, roughness, You was down before me. Then

698
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: you even got a jacket, so you was there when

699
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: the rock was a thought.

700
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: It's funny you said that that everybody around wanted Jaya win. Yes,

701
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: but the most important thing was that Jay wanted to win.

702
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing. Like we were talking

703
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: before we started recording, how you know, trying to give

704
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: a message or advice to younger generational or anyone, not

705
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: even younger, anyone just trying to be inspired. At first.

706
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: You got to believe in yourself.

707
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: That's a fact. And no one could tell Jay he

708
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: wasn't that.

709
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: No he knew, he knew, no one he even even

710
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: a comment like that. How you feel he's gonna be

711
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: on the classic album? That wasn't at that point something

712
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: that people were really, you know, looking forward to at

713
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: that point. You know what I mean?

714
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: Fact, you wre two classics, two classics though, Man, you're

715
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: my joint, my first.

716
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: Forget that.

717
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 3: Man, I remember when I called paying like yo, I

718
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: need that that that flavor you gave hope, you gave

719
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 3: me two skits on my first.

720
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: We tell you something about you, and I'm glad we're

721
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: having these conversations.

722
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: We could talk real, we could talk, and that's what

723
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: we're here for.

724
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: Man, the the slight on you always is. Oh J

725
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: wrote your ship Age of Coming to Age.

726
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: He wrote that, give that, he wrote two feet too, Yeah,

727
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: I give that to him.

728
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: Let me explain to you how great God is and

729
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: how to ghost always watching? What is God rest his soul?

730
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: Clark can't what he means to.

731
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: All of us, That's right, that was big bro. I

732
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: know the.

733
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: Story of how you got to be to that point

734
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: to even be the person rapping on coming to vasion

735
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: that was originally written for sh right, yes, and Shahim

736
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: was with Wu Tang.

737
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: And they I guess somehow he ain't have the time

738
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: to do it. And then when I've seen them in

739
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: the projects, I'm telling hour rhyme, I'm like, yo, he

740
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: told me, I spit, I spit. Clark like yo, I

741
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: think he might be good for that joint.

742
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: But wait in Sion history, because Clark made you rhyme

743
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: for him. Yes, your rhymes, yes, so you auditioned to

744
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: be that.

745
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: Of course your rhymes hundred your actual rhymes.

746
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: This wasn't jay Z's rhymes. This was you rapping to

747
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: Clark needed, and Clark needed to verify like yo.

748
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: Okay, he's nice good enough to even do that. That's right, right,

749
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand percent.

750
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: And you owned it because I mean, you know, obviously

751
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: this isn't the same genre. But you know, these great artists.

752
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: Celeine Dion didn't write you know my Heart Will Go Out,

753
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: Tony Blaxon didn't write that, but they owned the song.

754
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: It's their Yes, they embodied it.

755
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: It's my words, it's you doing that person.

756
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 1: Emphasis, that's emphasis. You emphasize every word. The same thing

757
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: with me. I mean, look those skits on those albums

758
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: and movies, those a scene trade, they're not my I

759
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: didn't write those words, but I own them, that's right.

760
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: I I took it. I always see myself like a producer.

761
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: Would you know, like how we would sample, like you know,

762
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: Kanye with sample uh falling, but he puts the drums

763
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: to it. He puts the you know, but it's still

764
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: a sample.

765
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: But it's his beat, that's right.

766
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: So these scenes, these monologues, they meant something to me,

767
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: so I wanted to take them, and I wanted to

768
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: try to convert them, to make them mindel or to

769
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: pertain them to you, pertain them to Jay, because I

770
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: see everything like a movie. I see things in movies

771
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: I don't I don't read books. I don't like to

772
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: read because I don't grasp the material I said that I've.

773
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 3: Seen, and they took it the wrong way. So don't

774
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: say you don't like I don't like that.

775
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: I don't like to read.

776
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: You can't read.

777
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't like to read because I don't grasp the material.

778
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: It ain't captivating.

779
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: I need to visualize.

780
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm a visual I'm a visualizer.

781
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: I just was watching The Joy Luck Club the other

782
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: but I read books. Don't get a twister, no, no, no, yeah,

783
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: you know we got library we got library cards in

784
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: gotta get that. I probably got a tab on my

785
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: library card. I oh, like I need a jay z

786
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: Verse just to pay my library tab. Like I think

787
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: I told them like from a movie that I read it.

788
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: They used to rent movies. But I'm better visually. Yes,

789
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: So like the other day, I'm watching The Joy Luck Club.

790
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: Movie touched me like I was like wow, like this

791
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: is like so good. And then I wanted to go

792
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: back and read the book because I've seen the visual

793
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: of read. Yeah exactly, I see that it's in I

794
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: because when you read, you're kind of seeing the thing

795
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: play out in your head. Anyway, when they already have

796
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: that for you, then now you can go back and

797
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: kind of it's like okay, oh yeah, yeah, they did

798
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: a good job here, you know what I mean. Oh

799
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: I didn't see it that way now reading it, you

800
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's more visual. It's it's

801
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: always been visual to me, so like with those movies.

802
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to pertain them to the artist

803
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: that I was working with because I see things in movies,

804
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: so like you you with Jay, I always seen YouTube

805
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: your relationship as far as I was concerned from watching it.

806
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: From my vantage point, you run reminded me a lot

807
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: of like the Christopher Montasanti Tony Soprano kind of like

808
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: relationship where Tone is Christopher's uncle, but he's not really

809
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: his uncle, Like it's weird, you know, connected somehow and

810
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: not blood, but he loves them. He's like my nephew.

811
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: You know, my nephews is just gonna be the nextra charge,

812
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, like so, but you had that because Christopher

813
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: Christopher is very like all Tony don't always talking about

814
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean that. That's why I loved

815
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: Coming of Age two. Coming of Age two is better

816
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: to me than Coming to age one because it's so realistic.

817
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'll ride with you for free the

818
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: first time and I was like, yeah up, what up?

819
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: I need to see that bread. They're still in my

820
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: sad fact.

821
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: How you doing? Good to see you. But there's an underlining.

822
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: See this is how ill Jay mine is with even

823
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: writing that song because I remember rhyming the song.

824
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: I remember Jay made me stay in the booth.

825
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: I literally was in the booth for about an hour

826
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 3: saying that in the stance like, and what one leg

827
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: of my paying something in the stance like and what

828
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 3: I know the fact I know the dude just feeding

829
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: me cancer. But at time to answer whatever I say

830
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: back that I'll remember the line. But I remember he

831
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: made me keep saying that line over and over and

832
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 3: over and over and over and over until I got

833
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: it perfect. But when the song came out, I didn't

834
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 3: really understand it. And then when I got older and

835
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: I listened to it, and it's probably gonna blow people's

836
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: mind if you really listen to the record. We don't

837
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 3: even say nothing to each other. It's just so Yes,

838
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: it's also conscience. It's all what we're thinking. Sometimes all

839
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 3: I say is what up?

840
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: And you say what up? Believe that's it?

841
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: Incredible? Is that because it encapsulates like we talked to

842
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: each going on that's life.

843
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: And people think, like when you listen to the record,

844
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: they think we have in a conversation, But it's just

845
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: what we each thinking about. The other person is thinking

846
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: that moment and when I really caught down like Jay

847
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: is didn't. That's what makes him the genius he is.

848
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: When you're telling me that story about how you made

849
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: you say that over over again, reminds me almost like

850
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: a good director. We do like an actor, like you know,

851
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: I want you to do it this way, precise and

852
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: lists to be precise.

853
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: Jay is so perfectionist.

854
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 3: I remember when I did, like that shout out DJ

855
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: Enough in Swiss because they was in the studio when

856
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 3: I got to like that rectord meet DJ Enough Swiss

857
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: and Guru and you know the part where I say,

858
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: h Swiss slowed down to be shortly slowed down to be?

859
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: How does she say? You know?

860
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: And I don't like that? And I remember I said

861
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: it in the first version I played it for him.

862
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: He was like, Yo, you know what, you should say

863
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 3: that in every verse. I'm like you think so? He like, yeah,

864
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 3: just go back and rewrite them. Put that line right there,

865
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: put it in every verse.

866
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: And I did it. Now that's like the highlight of

867
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 2: the record.

868
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: Like he always been like the constructor, Like I don't

869
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: get where that people like, yo, he wrote your rhyms.

870
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: Then I don't know why the askap checks come to me.

871
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: But I mean as far as like I said to

872
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: me as an observer, like I said, when I heard

873
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: that story that you had to kind of like audition

874
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, that means that your joint. God,

875
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: it wasn't at of necessity. It wasn't like, oh shit,

876
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: we need somebody right now. This is so great about

877
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: like both of our stories. I didn't audition to be

878
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: on the album, you know what I mean. I wasn't

879
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: part of the plans. I was never part of the

880
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: plan exactly. But I was part of God's plan. That's right,

881
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: you know, And.

882
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: That's exactly what happened. Like I wasn't part of the

883
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 2: plan either.

884
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 3: God made me stop them that day exactly, and it

885
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: changed the court of life.

886
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: What did you feel like when they were walking up, Like,

887
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: did you know that there was a joint that didn't No?

888
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: I just knew Jay was that guy, Like you know

889
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 3: you got Lexus coops that ain't out. You know, you

890
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: got the baddest chick in the hood. It's like this

891
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 3: guy go to his crib, you got waterbags, floor model

892
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: TVs AC. It was like I gotta get with him,

893
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: like because we spraying the water bottle on the fan

894
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: in my crib is as it's hot as ass down there.

895
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: So and that's what I just knew. Man.

896
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 3: I needed to get with him, man like if anything

897
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 3: was gonna change, I was going to figure out how

898
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: to get money and learn how to get money with

899
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: a person who's getting money.

900
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: Can't get money with a broke person.

901
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: Y'all both broke with a blessing that it's that person.

902
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: It's crazy. I always knew of all.

903
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: People you could have came up to, like Joe Johnson,

904
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: like you you know, in prison for twenty years. But

905
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: if all people, it was this person.

906
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 2: I knew.

907
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna just say I knew with Jay.

908
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 3: I also believe jazz O too. I remember seeing jazz

909
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 3: O and Jay in the elevator, like taking an elevator

910
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 3: ride with them from the first floor upstairs, and I

911
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: remember asking them, Yo, how you write a chorus? I

912
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: could write a verse, but I can't write a chorus.

913
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: And Jazz said to me, Yo, keep rapping. All you

914
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: gotta do is keep writing. It's gonna come. And I

915
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: remember saying to myself, if I told you I got

916
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: the verses, how the hell is the hook gonna come?

917
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: I'm telling you I can't write a hook. I don't

918
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: know how to think of a hook. And his advice

919
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 3: was keep writing, And he was right though. Kept writing

920
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 3: now and I learned how to make choruses. They I

921
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 3: would take choruses out the verse. But every day I

922
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 3: used to see them and pick their brain, try to

923
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 3: get in the car with them. Man, get out of here.

924
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: You can't come with us today. Get out of here,

925
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: not today, not today. So when I used to get

926
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: that call and be like, bleak, we need you in

927
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: the studio, bro, it just felt like life Like I knew.

928
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 3: I knew life was gonna change.

929
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: So at that moment you did, Yeah, it was I knew.

930
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: Man.

931
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: I used to get in trouble for hanging with them, bro. Member,

932
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 3: there was the big you.

933
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: Know you got jazz.

934
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, they was getting that money man, and moms be like,

935
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: what the hell you doing around there?

936
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 2: You're too young. You ain't supposed to be with them,

937
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 2: Get your ass and outs.

938
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: It was weird because that probably never happened in today's world.

939
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: You know, an older had little like that.

940
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: It look weird. You know, people think everything is weird.

941
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: Today, but it's weird because not it. But like you

942
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: know that's the time we grew up in hanging on

943
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: that block. Those were old member elder statements.

944
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 3: You know, it was like twenty thirty year olds and

945
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: I'm one thing I can tell team, but it was

946
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: an honor just to be chilling with them. A fourteen

947
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: year old city kid is the same mentality and mental

948
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: state of a twenty five year old suburban man.

949
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: And that's the truth.

950
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 3: Like a fourteen year old city kid has the same

951
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: responsibilities as a twenty five year old man who.

952
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: Grew up in the suburbs. It's no different. He probably

953
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: might have it harder, more responsible.

954
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: We aging dog years.

955
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: Basically, No, it is because you think in the city

956
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 3: is is you got it rough?

957
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: Bro? Like you said your sister had to raise you.

958
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

959
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: Your sister how old she She probably was eight years old,

960
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: exactly twenty, you know what I'm saying. So thinks she

961
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 3: had to be thirty. She had to be a mother.

962
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 3: So think about that. That's what I'm saying. Like you

963
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: could take a kid from the suburbs and bring him

964
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: to a kid in the city, and the kid in

965
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 3: the city is way more advanced, like because they life

966
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 3: is faster in the city and that's just what happened.

967
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: You age quicker, you do back and that's just what

968
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: it is.

969
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 3: But back to the Rockefeller days, My god Pain, I

970
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: never forget Pain. My album release party, yo, one of

971
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: the greatest nights in my history of ever performing.

972
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 2: I got a chance to get called to the tunnel tunnel.

973
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: Shout out funk Master Flex, Big Cap, Miss the ce

974
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: Rest of Peace, Big Cap, and mister C. They call

975
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: me the Dude Risk the Piece DMX because DMX was

976
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: even at the album release party, the first album in

977
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 3: the tunnel. I remember, my god Pain like you're bleak,

978
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 3: Let's do the intro before you come out, and I'm

979
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: like you think so he like trusts me and you

980
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: went out there and the roof came in. We didn't

981
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 3: even have to play a record. That's how famous he was.

982
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: It was weird because it's weird to see that once

983
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: you started that.

984
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay.

985
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: So now the guy to work for jay Z problems.

986
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: He can trouble running a song, he can called jay Z,

987
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: But now the guy's got Jaj's money a week no

988
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: matter what antelling records, fuck you pay me? Oh you

989
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: want him in your video, Fuck you pay me now

990
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: when you coming here shows up, fuck you pay me.

991
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: But then I had because I learned this from you,

992
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: I had a lot of money on me. I don't

993
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: know who gave it to me, You or somebody gave

994
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: it to me. When I did the fuck you pay Me,

995
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: I threw it into the crowd and I remember just

996
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: the ship looked like the scene and paying for with

997
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: the money.

998
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: Coming down in slow motion, you know what I mean.

999
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 3: I got a story about the jay throwing money, but

1000
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: got I'll let you finish.

1001
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: So.

1002
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: You know, the tunnel was incredible. So when that's happened,

1003
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: everyone's flying all over the place. I just remember getting

1004
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: off the stage. You got on there and they just

1005
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: went fucking bananas. You know. When you started into into

1006
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: the man, I got done done. The beat comes on

1007
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: and just like you could feel the bill thing shaken seriously.

1008
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: And so I got an earthquake.

1009
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 3: I got a story about myth bleakers because I didn't

1010
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 3: even want that record to be we didn't even have

1011
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: the record.

1012
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: I remember being in the studio with you and Lenny.

1013
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Lenny was working as a project was his first project.

1014
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 3: Me and Lenny almost died to make myth bleakis. Like literally,

1015
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: we was on a Hard Knock Life tour. We were

1016
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 3: supposed to shoot what you Think of That, featureing Jay

1017
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: as the first single to come in age. Right, they didn't.

1018
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, Jay wasn't even on what you Think

1019
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 3: of That? But that was supposed to be the first single.

1020
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: They wouldn't clear the sample. So then Jay went to

1021
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 3: Swiss like, Yo, my little bro need to be so Swiss, like, Yo,

1022
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be in New York this day when we off,

1023
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: so Jay like I am a book y'all flight to

1024
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: go home.

1025
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 2: Me and Lenny. We flew from Buffalo on a propeller plane.

1026
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: Man, that's in Hard Knocked Life.

1027
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: Yo, bro.

1028
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: That plane was shaking. So I was on there praying

1029
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 3: like yo, please please Lenny too he laughing. I say,

1030
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: you see what you got to go through to make

1031
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, and we layd we get there.

1032
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 2: We make the record Swiss like your bleak. I got

1033
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 2: it for you.

1034
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: He got he had to hook on their myn bleaker

1035
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: is and I'm like, alright, cool, I did it.

1036
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't think this the record. I

1037
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: don't think people gonna want to say my name like

1038
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: and Jay like, man, you.

1039
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: Bugging shut up. The record is dope. People don't like

1040
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: they know your name, chill out.

1041
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: So then when we put the record out and the

1042
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 3: response we got, and that response at the tunnel was like, hold.

1043
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: On, I'm they like me. That's for me, Like that's

1044
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 2: how I felt.

1045
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: And you're the first artist other than d m X

1046
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: to get a Swizz beat, right, No, Jay just coming

1047
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: to H two, coming to sorry but of people, because

1048
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: he did also.

1049
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: And jig jig my mother, but money.

1050
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: I always equivocate swizz with X and then X being

1051
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: on money cash holds like all right, he did that

1052
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: for them, man, Obviously he did another joint on the value.

1053
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: But you're the first artists other than those two colossals.

1054
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: Nail's you that gets a Swiss beat.

1055
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 3: Of I believe similar to like from mouth to switch

1056
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: to Swiss fingertips.

1057
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: Right right, but like Norri Norri with with the Neptunes, Yeah, no,

1058
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: one have that people. Then who's that next one from

1059
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: the dozen Neptunes?

1060
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: One?

1061
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a good question, you know.

1062
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: No, No, I gotta get for here for real, pull up,

1063
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: pull up?

1064
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: Man, who's the second beat? So that's piece up. That's

1065
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: big as itself.

1066
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: Look at that x J.

1067
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: You and he knew that was going to be a hit.

1068
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: The only thing I ain't sell those records it was X.

1069
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: But you went gold on no, no, no, no, no, you

1070
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: did it. I went go, I went underestimate.

1071
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: Every album went gold. But we talked about X went

1072
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: four five million. Every album X dropped two albums in

1073
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: one years. For the five million. That's it's never been

1074
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 3: done before. It would never be done again.

1075
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: No, no, absolutely ever, Like I don't know, I don't

1076
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: think people buy that many records at this point. People

1077
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: don't understand the importance of selling that many progs.

1078
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: That you had to go to the store.

1079
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: Like now it's a little cheat code because think imagine

1080
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: we got the count for every time you played that CD.

1081
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: Now today when a person download the album, every time

1082
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: it played, they count, they get something, and they're giving

1083
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: us fractions of the count. So it's really don't count

1084
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: for the artists. It just counts for the you know,

1085
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: the streaming providers.

1086
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 1: It's weird, how you know the music business breaks down,

1087
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, like the terrible of it.

1088
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: It's terrible.

1089
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 3: You have to I feel like music now you have

1090
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: to use it as a platform to promote your other platform,

1091
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean, it's almost like a commercial,

1092
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 3: but yeah, it is.

1093
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: It is. It's a platform to let you know, like,

1094
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: look what I'm capable of doing exactly, and that's what

1095
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: that's really what he did. I mean as far as

1096
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: business and what you did too. Look what you're doing

1097
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: with this. Look at all the things that you brought

1098
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: to the frame. You've done a lot of things.

1099
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: Were outside working. Not only don't really.

1100
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: Appreciate and they don't recognize that you learned.

1101
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: I learned from the best man. You know, we got

1102
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 3: the weed out there my right exiety. We got the

1103
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: say about came about from my wife actually because I

1104
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 3: was hold.

1105
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: Sorry to interrupt, you just played me a joint on

1106
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: your new album that that's like you know you're talking

1107
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: about her, and I appreciate that. It was incredible. You

1108
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: know why it's incredible because watching you recite the rhymes,

1109
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: you can see how heartfelt. It is no word to

1110
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 1: see you happy that you deserve to be. And there's

1111
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 1: nothing in life better. When a man has a strong woman,

1112
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: that's that's that's behind him. I believe that's everything. That's

1113
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: the navigator. Great, give you a beautiful daughter. Yeah, I'm

1114
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: so happy to see you. Appreciate seeing and happy because

1115
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: being happy is being successful to totally different and.

1116
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: And that is success to me.

1117
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 3: Happiness, exact family, exact money ain't success to me.

1118
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 2: Like money is something to be made, spending made again.

1119
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: So money something brings even worse than you.

1120
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: Know, Bring bring Bring the drama more brings the greed

1121
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 2: to more.

1122
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1123
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: That's right, but we on you.

1124
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm like, praising somebody else is pain.

1125
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that.

1126
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 3: I always felt too man And this is for the

1127
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 3: people to know, Like why you never got into like

1128
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 3: doing the voiceovers for cartoons or have you tried?

1129
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 2: I don't don't what to say. Why you never got

1130
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: into it?

1131
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 3: You probably tried, it just didn't manifest or like even

1132
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: acting like I felt like you could have played a

1133
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 3: role in state property. They killed me, you gotta I

1134
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 3: could have killed you.

1135
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: Well, all right, so a lot of things happened along

1136
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: the way. So I always tell the story, and I

1137
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 1: also get negative feedback to what the you talked about.

1138
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 1: You weren't in it. So after being on the album

1139
00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: bring More, doubt. Uh. Back then, Abdul shout out Malik,

1140
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: I but would film all the videos he did, so

1141
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: he did, you know, Ain't No he did, Presidence he

1142
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: did in my lifetime. And this is on their own dime,

1143
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: that's right. So due to the success of reasonab moved out.

1144
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: Jay's next single after Ain't No is gonna be the

1145
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: marry joint Can Knock the Hustle?

1146
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wait, we ain't even get in the streets

1147
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: is watch it right right? And we're getting to that.

1148
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: We'll get you said a minute. But so they decide

1149
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: Hype Williams is like the biggest director in the game.

1150
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: Let's let hype director. Well, you know, we're gonna pay

1151
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: him money, you know, pay him a lot of money

1152
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: to do this. He just finished doing Tupac's California Love video,

1153
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: which is basically a mini movie the mad Max shit

1154
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: going on. It was incredible. So here's this guy gonna

1155
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: direct Jay's next joint. So he comes up to the

1156
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: to the label, comes up to Rockfi. I introduced, you know,

1157
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: meet him at the door and bring him and I

1158
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you're gonna put me in a video?

1159
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 2: Right?

1160
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: You know how these artistic people I was like, this

1161
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: guy's a fucking dick. Heare you know what I mean? Like,

1162
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: so here again with the anger.

1163
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: I start snapping on it.

1164
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: I started snapping on look at your chirt yp blah

1165
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: blah blah, whatever, things like he's gonna direct the video

1166
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So we get to the set and

1167
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you're gonna get me in the video

1168
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: right straight ignores me again. I was like, this guy's

1169
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: the fuck is wronging I I'm out of here. I'm leaving.

1170
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: But again, like the time with the girl, I'm gonna

1171
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: get people peace of my mind. So they were smoking

1172
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: cigars him, Jay and Dame. This is in South Street,

1173
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: Seaport downtown, and I'm like, look at this fucking guy

1174
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: smoking a fucking dig whatever. I'm making fun of him whatever.

1175
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: Everybody starts laughing and I'm like, yo, I'm leaving, I said,

1176
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 1: So I walk away. And there was a woman named Fran.

1177
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: Back then, she was the video promotion person. Her name

1178
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: was Fran. She was the main video person.

1179
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

1180
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: So, as I'm walking away, she runs she goes, hey,

1181
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: may I ain't come back here, come back and back here.

1182
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, ship dam it's gonna like punch me

1183
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: in my arm or something like that, because you got.

1184
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: Mad that I it was this a night.

1185
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 1: She's said, no, no, no, Hype wants you in the video.

1186
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: M She goes, go get you go put on a suit.

1187
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: Yea.

1188
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: So it wasn't in the Dead Price, No, no, this

1189
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: is the knock the hustle.

1190
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: Can't not the hustle.

1191
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I put on a suit and I go

1192
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: up this elevator and I go into this restaurant that's

1193
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: right by the highway by the seaport, and there's an

1194
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: elevator's door open. Hype goes here, comes painting the ass

1195
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: and everybody starts clapping. So I was like, oh ship,

1196
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: So like, yo, go ahead, you want to be such

1197
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: a big mouth guy, got do something crazy. So I

1198
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: ended up jumping on the table and I'm dancing on

1199
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: the table and you see it in the video. You

1200
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: know whatever in posts you could put that up there,

1201
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: dancing in the video and whatever. So the video is

1202
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: over and he's like, yo, I see Hype again out side,

1203
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: and he's like, we said, you want to make fun

1204
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: of me all the time this night. He goes, uh,

1205
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: let me get your your your beeper number. This is

1206
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: some beepers. So I get my number whatever. Six months later,

1207
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 1: I get a page from a two one two number.

1208
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: Now young generation don't understand. When you get a two

1209
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: one two page.

1210
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 3: You knew you were in business. You was in business.

1211
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 3: That's seven one day, you like, I want this chick

1212
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 3: on what this dude.

1213
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: Looking for me for the cops? Two was strong.

1214
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: That meant money, big.

1215
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: Time, big time. So I call up and said, what's up?

1216
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: Somebody paid me. I was like, it's Big Dog Films.

1217
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: Who are you looking for? I was like, big Dog Films?

1218
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: What is that?

1219
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: It was this hype William's company. I said, well, somebody

1220
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: page me paying that. So she puts me in hold.

1221
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he gets on. Hees pain, You're

1222
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: gonna be the next Robert de Niro. I wrote apart

1223
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: for you in my movie. He goes, meet me right

1224
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: now downtown. No, No, I'm sorry, meet me right now

1225
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: in Jamaica. So I meet him by the colisseum. He

1226
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: gives me the script for belly Wow. He wrote this

1227
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: major part for me. What for doing now? So at

1228
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: the time, I'm an intern. Still, even though I'm on

1229
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: the album, I'm still intern. I'm not anything other than

1230
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: all right, cool, that's a cool story. You got on

1231
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: the album and you happen to be here. So they

1232
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: got word of it. They got wind of it Jay

1233
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: and Damon and they're like, all right, cool, we manage

1234
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: you now. So I became the first. I became the

1235
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: first like nonp.

1236
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you get that's right. You know what that's called. Yeah,

1237
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 3: put that speed stick on.

1238
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 1: I mean but you know what they they they deserve

1239
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: it because I wouldn't be anywhere it was it. So

1240
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: he wrote this major part. I remember we went to

1241
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: a reading and beh.

1242
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: Was with me to I was also managed the profession

1243
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: to put the speed real quick back to stupid real.

1244
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: I said, get over here.

1245
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: I remember we went to a reading and Nas was there.

1246
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: Scarface the rapper was there.

1247
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: Only one. We're not going to scar face.

1248
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: That scar face. Why are you here?

1249
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: Man?

1250
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: Supposed to be an interm? What then you're doing rapping?

1251
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: No?

1252
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: But uh, Terrell Cks was there from Okay from the

1253
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: Bronx Tail and I used to love that movie. Tyron

1254
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 1: Turner from Uh from Minister Society is there. He's sitting

1255
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: right next to me. He's the one that ends up

1256
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: playing in the movie because I don't like that ship.

1257
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: I don't like that ship one bit.

1258
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna drive it down right exactly.

1259
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: So we're all sitting at the table like this, you know,

1260
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: we're all together. Nas is there and everything, so I'm

1261
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: reading my.

1262
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 2: Parts, you know.

1263
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: It was like yeah, blah blah blah. And it was

1264
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: like clapping and laughing and everything. And then during the

1265
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: break I remember Nas was smoking with scarface and I've

1266
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: seen him like, you know, I'm walking away because we're

1267
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: saying you have an actor before. I was like, nah,

1268
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: you got it. So I was like, oh, ship, I

1269
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: end up here, you know what I mean, Like, wait,

1270
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: I end up from from from that, from that to that. So,

1271
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: because you know I used to love Nas going.

1272
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: Up, Nas was like he was come on, man.

1273
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: So after we came back from the break, Pipe was like, yo,

1274
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: I just spoke to the producers. We're gonna change painting

1275
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: the ass his name from Coomington. It was to painting

1276
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: to ask and I was like, oh. They started clapping

1277
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: and this and that, and I was so exciting. You know,

1278
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: It's one of the highlights of my career so far.

1279
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 3: Why you ain't exactly exactly here it comes so all

1280
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 3: of a sudden, I don't know what the fuck happened,

1281
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 3: contacting back and forth, this and that, and you know.

1282
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: Get ready unto wardrobe. You know we're gonna film this movie,

1283
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: this and that, blah blah blah. Then all of a sudden,

1284
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: it just went blank.

1285
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: You think, Jay and Dame asks me too much money?

1286
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: No, no, it wasn't that.

1287
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: What they wanted. The Denzel fief.

1288
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 1: You imagine that right now for pay I thifty thousand hour, right,

1289
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 1: fifty thousand hour would be nice. What happened, I think

1290
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: was that he needed to cut characters because of budget issues.

1291
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: And even now, like you know, years later, like he's

1292
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: very angry the way it came out because he didn't

1293
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: get to do what he intentionally wanted. Like how I

1294
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: remember reading the script that was it was totally different

1295
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: from what I saw on the screen. But I was

1296
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: really honored that he asked me to be part of

1297
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: that because it did change everything because I didn't get

1298
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: in belly. And I remember, as a matter of fact,

1299
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: the day of the reading. We were supposed to have

1300
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 1: a reading on a certain day, and my sister paged

1301
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: me and I called back, say what's going on. She's like, oh,

1302
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: you know they called from this company. You know there's

1303
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: something about that they're not going to do reading today

1304
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: because of other issues. You know that you'll do it

1305
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: another time. So I'm like, all right, all right, cool,

1306
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: So what's up? Nothing? I know, you get mad, you

1307
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: know when I don't tell you things. I was kind

1308
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: of set up, is it? What are you talking about?

1309
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: So my sister raised me, but our grandmother was very

1310
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: much part of our child.

1311
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, the backbone of the family.

1312
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know my my mother's side of the family

1313
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: there in Columbia, so I just knew my grandmother. So

1314
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's going on? What the fuck? What's up?

1315
00:56:55,360 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: Grandma died? Yeah, it's like, you know, my heart just

1316
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: it was the first panic attack I've ever had. In

1317
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: some of the panic attacks, yeah, it's like, you know,

1318
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: just shaking, a lot.

1319
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 2: Of people suffer from them and don't even know least

1320
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 2: you recognize.

1321
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: Right, It's just like I couldn't believe it, and eventually

1322
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: I didn't get in the movie, so like there was

1323
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: like a dark cloud around all that. Again more anger,

1324
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: but how God works. Jay drops Volume one and he

1325
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: says to me, You're gonna do it again, right, like

1326
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: do what again? You do your day again? You know?

1327
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: So it's in the studio. We did it again. And

1328
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: it was a great album, great album, but it wasn't

1329
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: received as well as it should.

1330
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 3: Have been because what I believe was it was a

1331
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 3: lot of competition.

1332
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: At that at that time, and Jay was talking about

1333
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: things that wasn't keep it going over people's eyes.

1334
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 3: Yes, because Jay was talking about the lifestyle we live

1335
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 3: today then, right, remember Rose.

1336
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 2: Royce's big leads. People are just now getting these and.

1337
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: Maybe the singles weren't the best. Like how you said

1338
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: that you didn't like the men fleak is, Like, maybe

1339
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: they weren't the best selections of the album because the

1340
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: album is strong. Yes, so as smart as they are,

1341
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: Dame and decided let's film a movie of the strong.

1342
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 3: Records to every song. Now it's basically that damn near

1343
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 3: every song.

1344
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: Right. So we're in Marcie.

1345
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: I'm mad they ain't called me for the Source Money

1346
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 2: video though.

1347
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,439
Speaker 1: Oh that was fun. Yeah, that looked like a good time.

1348
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: I was mad that was in Atlanta.

1349
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: I wasn't married then, Yes, young guy, that.

1350
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: Would have been a different song of that they.

1351
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 3: Got me pulling out guns on You must love me, sure, people,

1352
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 3: but don't invite me to the strip club.

1353
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: And that was that was a nice little see.

1354
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: That's two strikes. I didn't get a jack, no jacket

1355
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 2: and no strip cover.

1356
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: That basically, you robbed me in my youth.

1357
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, fifteen years old. You

1358
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 2: don't do that to a fifteen.

1359
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: Year old boy. You know what I mean. Let him

1360
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: jack and let him go to the strip club thing

1361
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: so he can please.

1362
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be talking about to this day.

1363
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: I would have. So I'm in Marcie and We're in

1364
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: the trailer, you know, and I just started wilding out

1365
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: or something, and you know, he's like, as I'm tired,

1366
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: so I do the scene from you know, my man, Colio,

1367
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: what did you like me? You ain't like me, motherfucker.

1368
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: I've been with made people connect the people who you've

1369
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: been with. You snatching job ass motherfuckers. Won't you go

1370
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: get last get out of here, go get a freestyle

1371
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: of something. He said, Yo, go do that, do that

1372
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: right now, yo, dude, let him do it right now,

1373
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: And it ended up starting out. The street is watching.

1374
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 3: That's right, that's all belly would have been great for

1375
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 3: me to do, yes, but I don't think it would

1376
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 3: have done for me.

1377
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: Which street is watching it for me because it's the

1378
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: first time that people put together the face with the

1379
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: voice from the homes. It was the first time that

1380
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: I had that stage.

1381
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 3: Yes, where people recognize and as that.

1382
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: You and you was ltty right pain.

1383
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: It was just like an artist or rocket which am

1384
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: which is crazy to drop the album. I should have

1385
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: dropped something, you know, yo set a year and everybody pause.

1386
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: I don't play pause. You even did a Jerky Boys

1387
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: out that would have been crazy.

1388
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 3: Remember they had a comedy album. I remember they was

1389
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 3: lit at one time, the Jerky deal.

1390
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Pain and Assay ass thing or something like that.

1391
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna get you lit. Don't worry. Somebody gonna contact

1392
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: I'm the manager and they see that.

1393
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: See that now you're putting it. Now you're doing a

1394
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: deodorant thing, like, yeah, that's what we do around here,

1395
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: right speed stick. We got your back and your armpit.

1396
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,479
Speaker 1: But it really changed my life because, like you said,

1397
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: for the first time, people just recognized me like, oh ship,

1398
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: you the guy from the album, and and that led

1399
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: to your album and that led to eventually working with

1400
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: you and being We did shows together, We traveled again,

1401
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: we did to it again. We had a fun time.

1402
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 3: Same age to remember Jeta proof that everybody crazy ass has.

1403
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: When we was to wa.

1404
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: Fighting, that's not that was our that was our logo.

1405
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: We was the fighter fucking or maybe sometimes.

1406
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, even when I remember when Freeway Beans and

1407
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 3: all them got signed, they got you doing skits and

1408
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 3: all that, Freeways still bring you out at the show man,

1409
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 3: I like that definitely.

1410
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: One of the coolest people. But now that been through

1411
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: so much as well, you know what I mean, Like

1412
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: I see that in him, like.

1413
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 3: I look it free as one of the strongest people

1414
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: I know that still to be through what he'd been

1415
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 3: through and still could get in front of that camera

1416
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 3: and smile.

1417
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: Fact like everything is okay. I commend them for you.

1418
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: Know, it's weird. It always happens, you know when you

1419
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: expect them.

1420
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: I don't. But you can never plan for de cease

1421
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 2: or or things to go wrong. Man.

1422
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 3: You can just pray they don't, but you can't plan

1423
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 3: for something to go You can have an if something

1424
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 3: go wrong, stash you what you're gonna have an if.

1425
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 2: If something go wrong.

1426
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 3: Hort can't be like, yeah, my feelings if somen go wrong,

1427
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 3: put these feelings over here to son go wrong. So

1428
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 3: when it happens, it's just a natural human feeling, bro Like.

1429
01:01:55,200 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 3: But to be able to get up and still push forward,

1430
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 3: that's strength, bro, that's that's that's stronger than the body building.

1431
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 2: It is.

1432
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 3: It is, you know what I mean, yes, man, Because

1433
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 3: certain people, certain things happen in their life. I've seen

1434
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 3: things break a person. I've seen the relationship some of

1435
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 3: these dudes lose a girl, jump off a bridge. Insane,

1436
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like it's insane.

1437
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: Seeing a lot of a lot of escapism I've seen,

1438
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: like when pain comes, people like escape to certain things.

1439
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: That's why you know you offered me a drink and

1440
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: I love you. I haven't your staff drinking in twenty years.

1441
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: God bless man, that's dope.

1442
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: I always you know, I wanted to be in control.

1443
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: You know, I would see myself.

1444
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 3: He was like the pisson and all that I've seen

1445
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 3: the video of me pulling chill Await you did push

1446
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 3: ups in the office naked naked? Yeah, like chill, we

1447
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 3: come into office, this nigga doing push ups.

1448
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: But as it was.

1449
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: It was I was talking to one of the chick

1450
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: in the office and she was saying something like, you know,

1451
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: you want to, you want to you want to do

1452
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: something like you know, let's lets let's have relations and

1453
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: put it in a nice way. Let's have relationship. Like no,

1454
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: like Ay was like, give him out the office.

1455
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: He can't up to the office no more. And I remember, like, Yo,

1456
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: what what happened?

1457
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: What you do?

1458
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 2: Do a push ups? That get greaz crazy? Nah? And

1459
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: that's the least of it.

1460
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: I remember I performed naked one time, dead ass literally

1461
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: not dead ass, but like naked ass, naked ass. I

1462
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: before I don't know wat you know why? Because me,

1463
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: me and my we were talking like you're scared. You're scared, man,

1464
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: what you mean you're scared? He's telling me, you know,

1465
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: helping me up, Like you can't even go up on

1466
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: the stage. You're afraid, like you you're like you got

1467
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: stage fright some time? I got stage right?

1468
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 2: Are you crazy?

1469
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: I go up there naked?

1470
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: The fuck?

1471
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: You never do that? And watch me and I don't

1472
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: know what.

1473
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 3: I'm telling you. We getting you a voice over. Somebody

1474
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 3: need to break something. We're gonna do some cartoon something

1475
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 3: we give. By God, we got you doing all these impersonations.

1476
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: It's a million guys out here that do impersonations that

1477
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 3: don't sound like people.

1478
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I got to give a big shout

1479
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: out to Jay Farrell, Jay Farrow. I have an impersonation

1480
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: that I did with him, and he does Jay and

1481
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: I did something I did the skits this. Now it's

1482
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: kind of funny. But he's talent. He's talent man.

1483
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: He got it a couple people.

1484
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 3: But then it's a couple of people who really don't say, like, yo,

1485
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 3: you made it theirs and now you.

1486
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 2: Ain't no talent fan Like I know, a lot of

1487
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 2: people use talented.

1488
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: You know, I see impersonations, Like you know, I always

1489
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: equivocated myself or try to like embody. Like the graffiti artists.

1490
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: I love graffiti. I love the fact that a graffiti

1491
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: artist what he'll do or she'll do, or they'll do.

1492
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: They'll they'll do that piece like they get their ups

1493
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: within and then they'll put a character to it. They'll

1494
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: have like Homer Simpson like a B boy pose, or

1495
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: they have like Speedy Gonzales holding up the piece. So

1496
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: they're adding character to the But that's really what I

1497
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: saw myself doing when I was doing these skits. It's

1498
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: like I'm doing the character, putting, getting my ups to

1499
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and pertaining it to the

1500
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: person that I'm doing it.

1501
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 2: And it's a lot of you here.

1502
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: And nothing goes down on listening Blackjacks, Dope deals on nothing.

1503
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: Something goes down to Marcy Bleak once in out there,

1504
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: but we all stopped King of New York Baby's turn

1505
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: and it always has been.

1506
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 2: That's right, my brother.

1507
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 3: But like I was gonna say, it's a lot of

1508
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 3: platforms like I remember, like I know, Sight for Sounds,

1509
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 3: got a comedy showing going on.

1510
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 2: You know, we got a link.

1511
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 3: I told you, yeah, do that worry, No, I don't

1512
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 3: want no percentage is just for you.

1513
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: Just man, Hey, let me tell you something. I learned

1514
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: a lot of things doing business. Take everybody who does

1515
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: something for me.

1516
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 2: You get to worry.

1517
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: We got you listen because that that sometimes you're misconscrewed,

1518
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: like as respect.

1519
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 2: Let's shout out the fan, you know, even you know

1520
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 2: his son Spanky.

1521
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you have the dead ass.

1522
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of dead ass this show.

1523
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: He does it with my man Malsie Jones.

1524
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, man actually has to be called me.

1525
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: To do like an intro for the show. They do

1526
01:05:58,760 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: it an s O big shot.

1527
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 2: You ain't get involved, you know what it is like

1528
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 2: the belly thing.

1529
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: There's been so many like close calls that never happened.

1530
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 2: No, you got to make them happen.

1531
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: You do got to make happen.

1532
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 3: Some things getting is out of your control, but certain

1533
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 3: things you very much control.

1534
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 2: Bro. So OB's is right there.

1535
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: It's right there.

1536
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: He performed at us over a million times.

1537
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 3: We could go open sobs right there the show. Yeah, like,

1538
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 3: come on, let's do something pain. I would more acting.

1539
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: I want to get involved in the acting, you know

1540
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: what I mean.

1541
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 3: Yes, but it's starts, so you got to start somewhere. Yeah, yeah,

1542
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1543
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's another thing. As far as close closes,

1544
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: I remember Jay and Damon.

1545
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 2: And talking about the supposed to being someone tell me about.

1546
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: They wanted me to be me to be a comedian. No.

1547
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: So at the time, you know, I'm eighteen years old

1548
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: and that anger is there and I like making people laugh.

1549
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: It's cool, But I don't do stand up. Yes, I'm

1550
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: a gangster. I do sit down, Okay, you know what

1551
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: I mean. So I don't want that. I want to

1552
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: I want to play the Tony Montana role this and that.

1553
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 2: So little for that, too little for that.

1554
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: I gotta do that. I gotta I gotta play a

1555
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: little like, you know.

1556
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 3: The little Tony they come out with the little like

1557
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 3: with that guy from.

1558
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: Game the Thrones was his name, the short the is

1559
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: wrong with you?

1560
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 2: You know, like they come up with little sopranos.

1561
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: Little sopranos would be right, little Tony? What the what?

1562
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: What do you want from me?

1563
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: Tom?

1564
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: What do you watch? I'm trying what if I could

1565
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: short Tony? But eventually after doing uh No, after doing

1566
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: Streets is Watching, then they started Rockefeller Films, and then

1567
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: we're doing all these films. But do you have your

1568
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: supposed to be in Paper Soldiers with Kevin Hart.

1569
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 3: They put me in Paper So you ran from dang

1570
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 3: for that, right, I did too. I was why you

1571
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 3: should have wanted to be.

1572
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 2: I didn't like the character.

1573
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: I didn't like the character they had me playing his

1574
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: you see in the movie, like the dude that's rolling

1575
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: win him. I like and want to do that.

1576
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 3: I was just saying, no, I was it's almost like

1577
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 3: they tell me when I tell people.

1578
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 2: Yoke wasn't Kevin Hart, but he became. He got so

1579
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 2: plain from that.

1580
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 1: But the thing was, at that point, because of the

1581
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: belly thing that I got respected enough to be asked

1582
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: to be in something like that. You doing this, now,

1583
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: why don't you do something for him? Or let me

1584
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 1: get something. Let me be the Kevin Hart character in that,

1585
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: let him be my man, you know what I mean?

1586
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 1: That's at that point, at that point right now, No,

1587
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: not right now, I'm at that point.

1588
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 2: He ain't even a sidekick to the rock they fighting

1589
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 2: for who.

1590
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. That's what I'm trying

1591
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: to say. Back then, he wasn't the Kevin Hart should

1592
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: have been my platform, is what I'm trying to say,

1593
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: is what I felt now looking back, You could.

1594
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 2: Be a plastic cutboy.

1595
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: I could definitely do that.

1596
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: You just you got water in your cut?

1597
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: You see that? Or you're in assumption, YO spelled it

1598
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: up like that. So I mean a lot of things

1599
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: I turned down and I could have done that really

1600
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: could have taken me to another plateau. But I'm very

1601
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: happy where I'm at right.

1602
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying yes, why because you so talented

1603
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 3: to me like one of the funniest person people that

1604
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 3: I have imaged you and Kevin Hart that I know

1605
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:21,879
Speaker 3: personally that I sat and seen do work perform on camera.

1606
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 3: And when you stop back to the regular cool guys

1607
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 3: like that, I can't do that. That's why when they

1608
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 3: wanted me to do drum line, It's like, I can't act.

1609
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:31,839
Speaker 2: I'm not a drum.

1610
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: Uh.

1611
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 3: I think Singleton Singletary, that was John Singletary rest in peace. Yeah,

1612
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 3: he contact John Singleton, Yes, he.

1613
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: Knowing what he did for Park did you want to make.

1614
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 3: He wanted to pay for acting class for me and

1615
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 3: all that because I told him I could not act.

1616
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 3: But the real thing, I was scared so Jay Jay

1617
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 3: cursed me out about that. He paid for acting classes

1618
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 3: for me and I still never act. So but that's

1619
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 3: neither hit her. I never wanted to be an actor me.

1620
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 3: I thought rat was gonna be right. Plateau, how can

1621
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 3: you come back?

1622
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 2: I'm a drummer, but I'm over here telling niggas I'm

1623
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 2: a gangster. How can't on? It don't work?

1624
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: You didn't know how to decipher the character from what

1625
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: they would view you as because and That's the way I.

1626
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 2: Felt with that certain role.

1627
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 3: Take is your life like rkle will never not be

1628
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 3: like I don't care what he do.

1629
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 1: He can't escape that, you know.

1630
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, He's always going to be that.

1631
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: It's like the girl in the neighborhood as a whole too,

1632
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: Like when she gets older, she changes her life, like

1633
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 1: she's always gonna be the whole, right, Like, is that weird?

1634
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: You always labeled as that she's married and everything. His words,

1635
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 1: not not mine. These are not my words. I've been

1636
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: possessed by the movie Scarf. No, but it's it's weird

1637
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: because even in growing up in the hood, you labeled

1638
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: a certain thing.

1639
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you snitch, you're always gonna be the snitch.

1640
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: Yes, you ever seen like I seen driving over here

1641
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: the the unions, Yeah, when they blow up the rat,

1642
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: Yeah they have a little rat like that the site

1643
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 1: is being held by non union workers. I think, wouldn't

1644
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: it be dope if they had that same rat in

1645
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: the hood, Like if you like to snitch on someone,

1646
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: like in front of your crib like that, Because I

1647
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: just want to know that right here in five three

1648
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: seven is a snitch living here. You sir, wouldn't that

1649
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 1: be dope because now the whole neighborhood knows that they rated.

1650
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 3: The game has changed. People accepting rats now, are they? Yeah, Man,

1651
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 3: look at Instagram, bro, look at social media. These got

1652
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 3: the game has changed. It's not the more rules and

1653
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 3: the codes we grew up. Those don't exist.

1654
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 1: I would never rat. That's why I would never commit

1655
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: a crime, because you would. Because I would never rat.

1656
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 1: I would.

1657
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 3: I would never rat. So I would never commit a crime.

1658
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,560
Speaker 3: That sound like if I commit a crime telling.

1659
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: No, no, no. I would never do that because I

1660
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: would never put myself in a position where I had

1661
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 1: to rat somebody or like, you know what I mean.

1662
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 2: That's why they say do your crime by your own

1663
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 2: exactly what I mean.

1664
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: Or not even do crime at all, you know what

1665
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 1: I mean. There's other ways, there's other avenues.

1666
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 3: There's a lot of ways to get money out here

1667
01:11:58,479 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 3: without having to exactly.

1668
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 1: Especially our days, you know, you could sell anything nowadays.

1669
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 3: Definitely, Man, And I see I wanted to shout out

1670
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 3: the homie chic, the chic man I see you got

1671
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:08,759
Speaker 3: on his sweat soup plug.

1672
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 2: You know, that's Marsie out in the building getting to.

1673
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: It, you know, I mean actually got a lot of

1674
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: things going on to a lot of artists out there

1675
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: that you know, contact with. They shout out to Breezy Lynn,

1676
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of artists and Marcia Benny,

1677
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: Benny my man out there, Like there's a lot of

1678
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,440
Speaker 1: artists that are like making noise from that same neighborhood

1679
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: that you're from. Well, how do you feel about that?

1680
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,719
Speaker 1: Like being there that you grew up in that environment

1681
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: and to see an artist kind of like develop from it.

1682
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 3: Like let's say, like I tried with you with Yeah,

1683
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 3: I tried to I tried to reach back to a

1684
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 3: lot of these kids. But today music business is different.

1685
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 3: I respect every single artist coming out the hood. I

1686
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 3: love what they're doing, from all of them, to the

1687
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 3: young guys, to the girls, to everybody what they're doing.

1688
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 2: But today the game.

1689
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 3: Is so accessible with YouTube, you can just put your

1690
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 3: stuff out. You got all these United Masters, you got

1691
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 3: rock Nation distribution, you got all these E one and

1692
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 3: all these Yeah, you could just put your music out

1693
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 3: yourself to where a lot of these artists think they

1694
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 3: know more than their executives today.

1695
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that it's.

1696
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 3: Like I don't have time to beef with an artist,

1697
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 3: and it's like I've been there. I've been to the

1698
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 3: top of the mountain. So I'm never gonna let a

1699
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 3: person who never sing the top of the mountain tell

1700
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 3: me how to get to the tape athlete and tell

1701
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 3: me I don't know when I've been up.

1702
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 2: There a few times.

1703
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 3: It's like, fans, I done left the flag up there

1704
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 3: four times? You feel me you trying to get there.

1705
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 3: But and that's what it is like. I respect them,

1706
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 3: and and I think the game has become where a

1707
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 3: lot of these artists now before they even make a record,

1708
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,839
Speaker 3: they automatically think, and I want to own my masters.

1709
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 3: It's like who you're gonna sell them to? Who you're

1710
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,759
Speaker 3: gonna do business with? All right, you own your masters?

1711
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 3: What movie are you putting them in? What who were

1712
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 3: you like for your caniar? Where you licensed in this music?

1713
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 3: You don't even know how to get a license to

1714
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 3: drive a car, but you're gonna license your music.

1715
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see it happened.

1716
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:01,440
Speaker 3: So it's a lot of want to be big business

1717
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 3: artists and small business.

1718
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: I think I think it's because of the discus, the

1719
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: influence of Yes, the artists, what they talk about and

1720
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: what you know.

1721
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 3: You hear these guys telling you on records. Yeah, I

1722
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:14,440
Speaker 3: went triple plating.

1723
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: Them and I own my masters.

1724
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: Impossible. It's just like you know what I'm saying.

1725
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 3: But they you know, people believe what they hear and

1726
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 3: sometimes don't even believe what they see.

1727
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: So now I wanted to discuss this with you.

1728
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: What's up?

1729
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: You got a question for me? Discussion? I want to

1730
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: have this debate with you.

1731
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 2: Debate.

1732
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: Let's be ye debate with you because step let's all

1733
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 1: these skits that I did, These were my ideas. These

1734
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 1: are my that's right, things that I came to him,

1735
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, this is what we're going

1736
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: to do. He gave me that right after the first one.

1737
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 2: I never had that, but go ahead.

1738
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:53,560
Speaker 1: So, like I said, I always seen him like Corlito.

1739
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: That's why I'm value on it. Somebody's pulling me close.

1740
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: That's the opening of.

1741
01:14:58,400 --> 01:14:59,879
Speaker 2: You gave me King of New York.

1742
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: But I gave you something bigger than that. And you,

1743
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: I heard recently and i've seen in interviews don't agree

1744
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: with it, and I don't understand why in a respectful way.

1745
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: So valume one is the opening of Callidos Way.

1746
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 2: Yes.

1747
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: Volume two is the ending of Calling Those Way. Sorry boys, Oh,

1748
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: I know you're going with it. You can't take me back.

1749
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 1: Now made down, I'm going to stretch my mic out.

1750
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good rapper, new and brooming. Prove

1751
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: jay Z who told you say that? That's my idea?

1752
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,560
Speaker 2: Oh that was no?

1753
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 1: No, No, Jay approved it obviously has so No, it's not.

1754
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: It's not. It's not. And I'll tell you why. I'll

1755
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: tell you why. I'll tell you why. You got to

1756
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 1: put it in context and where we and I know

1757
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 1: people are gonna disagree whatever they say. Jay came out

1758
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 1: Reasonable Doubt came out with value one. Those two albums

1759
01:15:56,040 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: to me the greatest of all time. They weren't really

1760
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: received the way they should. Yes, and he was gonna

1761
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: quit at the end of Reasonable that Doubt.

1762
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 2: Yea. He wasn't supposed to even make enough.

1763
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 1: But he got through the grace of God. We got

1764
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: the deaf Jam situation, and now he was going to

1765
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: come out with one more and that's it. But he

1766
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: was split it up into two parts. I wanted Volume Too,

1767
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 1: So what I said at the beginning of Volume Too,

1768
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: there was no valume too yet he didn't even get

1769
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 1: to that plateau yet. There was no hard knock life,

1770
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: There was no can I get it well, none of that. No,

1771
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: that has happened yet, and he's retiring. So you are

1772
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 1: that next person in line. Yeah, I mean you are

1773
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 1: the next one. Jay Z has not become the jay

1774
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 1: Z that we've come to know and love.

1775
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 2: Yes, when he said that he was not the jay

1776
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 2: Z of today, you.

1777
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: Said before that that put a lot of pressure on you,

1778
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 1: But at that point there was no pressure because, like

1779
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: I said, to me, here he wasn't, but he wasn't.

1780
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: What now in retrospect we look back, but James the

1781
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 1: biggest artist of all time.

1782
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 3: But remember to the fans he wasn't, but always to us,

1783
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 3: Jay always been who he is today. Yes, so you

1784
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 3: can't say he wasn't who he was. He wasn't who

1785
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 3: he was to the world yet. But we all know

1786
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 3: under that Rockefeller umbrella, that man is one of the greatest.

1787
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, That's.

1788
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 3: Why everybody believed and pulled on one accord to see

1789
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 3: him win and see this Rockefeller.

1790
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:22,719
Speaker 1: Thing absolutely flourish.

1791
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 2: He was who he was for he got here bro.

1792
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 1: So okay, So secondary. You agree with that, you, in

1793
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 1: my eyes, have had an incredible career.

1794
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 2: Of course, yes, you may have not lived up to

1795
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 2: that height.

1796
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,520
Speaker 1: What it was because because.

1797
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 2: He continued, as you can, should have quit, right, not he.

1798
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: Should have quit, but I mean at that moment, let

1799
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: me drop three albums at that moment, At that moment,

1800
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: That's what it was. Though at that moment he was

1801
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: stop and then not quit. He was going to do

1802
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: the business side like he's doing that.

1803
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 3: He could have invented the word cat back then. I

1804
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 3: could have whipped in. The student told jay Yo, why

1805
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 3: are you capping?

1806
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: He said, you said why a you Yankee captain?

1807
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yo, why are you capping? Was gonna retire and

1808
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 2: let me be the guy.

1809
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: But to me, you are that guy. Look what you've

1810
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: done for this game. No, I, how does that the

1811
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: greatest hip hop beef of all time? How did that stop? Sorry?

1812
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 2: Oh?

1813
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 3: It started by this kid named Jaba from Marcie by

1814
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 3: telling me, Yo.

1815
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna let nas dish you like that?

1816
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: Son?

1817
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 3: And I said, what play the joint? And I said, yo,

1818
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 3: goop put the beat on? And then Twins actually gave

1819
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 3: me mine right beat and who me?

1820
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,799
Speaker 1: All right? You brought this to the table.

1821
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I didn't. I didn't bring this

1822
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 2: to the table. No. It was an idea that Jay had, okay.

1823
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 3: And when I spoke to him, he was like, I'm like, yo, bro,

1824
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 3: the raps ain't clicking, shows, ain't booking. I need some

1825
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 3: real money that you know, I can really do this

1826
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 3: business shit. And he like, yo, I got something I'm

1827
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 3: thinking about getting involved with new liquor and showed me

1828
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 3: the bottle and I said, let me get my hands

1829
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 3: on that. I'm gonna put this in every hood across America.

1830
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 3: You did, And of course the.

1831
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 1: First real record that up Northeast had of like down

1832
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: South artists.

1833
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 2: Yes, who was that? Me? Round here? Baby?

1834
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 3: You know that round here Trick Daddy t I. Yo,

1835
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 3: that's the reason why I could live in Florida comfortably.

1836
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 3: I'm like honorary Florida. Y they love me just because

1837
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 3: I fucked with Trick.

1838
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 1: You got a string of hits. Of course, whether they

1839
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: like it or not, that's yours.

1840
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 2: That's right now. I never I never said my career wasn't.

1841
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: I wasn't happy with me.

1842
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 3: The only reason I said what I said, I said

1843
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 3: that what I said was I felt like the bar

1844
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,759
Speaker 3: was raised too high for me because at that time,

1845
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 3: I wasn't who I am today, you know, mentally, like

1846
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 3: I was a kid. I was fifteen, sixteen years old.

1847
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 3: Remember I was sixteen years old when coming to age drop.

1848
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 3: I was nineteen years old when my album comes. So

1849
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 3: I wasn't who I am today. And what I'm saying

1850
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 3: is it put the pressure on me, which was at

1851
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 3: that time good because it.

1852
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 2: Made me better.

1853
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 3: It's like, if I'm the new improved jay Z, that

1854
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 3: mean I gotta be better than what he's doing. But

1855
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 3: at that time of me improving enrhymeen, he just was

1856
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 3: fucking improving too. It's like, my nigga, you ain't gonna

1857
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:23,719
Speaker 3: stop when it is the ceiling.

1858
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: It's almost like you like racing ya, just getting fast.

1859
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what happened.

1860
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 3: Like I know the reason why I didn't become the

1861
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 3: new improved J because J became the new improofd J.

1862
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 2: He went from jay Z to Hovah.

1863
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: If you can go back and talk to yourself right

1864
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: now from that time, like you said, if you're not

1865
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: the person you are, then what would you say? What

1866
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 1: advice would you give to you?

1867
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 3: What I would give advice to myself is don't don't

1868
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 3: listen to the to the you know, the people in

1869
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 3: the crowd. Man, don't listen to the crowd noise. Stay

1870
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 3: focused on the game. And that's what it is. I

1871
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 3: got too hype by the sideline noise and God sidetracked.

1872
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: Almost like a shooting a free throw.

1873
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm looking at the people with the clap,

1874
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 3: focusing on them.

1875
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 1: Yes, if I could go back and talk to myself,

1876
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: I now, like you said, the person of the thing

1877
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 1: that you know now realizing that's stupid, is I would

1878
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 1: have appreciated the moment more. I feel like I didn't

1879
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 1: appreciate it while it was happening in a real time,

1880
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I appreciated the fact that

1881
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 1: I was part of something, yes, brotherhood or sisterhood, you know.

1882
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: I felt like, you know, everybody in there was like family.

1883
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: But I didn't appreciate the moment. I appreciate the importance

1884
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: now when you don't have a mother and your father

1885
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 1: is out and moving around and you just not even

1886
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 1: promises you're gonna see you on the weekend and never

1887
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: shows up. There's a void there. Yes, that I've been

1888
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: chasing my whole life.

1889
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 2: Do you have kids?

1890
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 1: No, I mean, unfortunately I could have a few times

1891
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: and it just didn't happen. Well, bad decision making.

1892
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 3: Because I grew up without a father. I never never

1893
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 3: ever said the word dad a day.

1894
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 2: In my life.

1895
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 3: So when I had my son, of course, So that's

1896
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 3: what I'm telling you. The void you're talking about been there.

1897
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 3: When I have my son, it felt weird. Even when

1898
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 3: he used to call me that. I used to tell

1899
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 3: my son, don't call me that because I never said

1900
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 3: that word a day in my life. I just tell

1901
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 3: my son called me bleak. So that's why my son,

1902
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 3: when he found out my name was Malik, used to be.

1903
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 2: Like your Alik.

1904
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 3: Your name is bleak, but my name Alik, you bleak,

1905
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 3: I'm Alik. So then you know, as he got older

1906
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 3: and I knew the responsibilities of a dad and things,

1907
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 3: it made me. Actually having a kid made me hate

1908
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 3: my father more just knowing.

1909
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 2: Where he left. Absolutely, because I would never turn my mind.

1910
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 3: So that's why I asked you because it feel yes,

1911
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 3: but my brother was in and out of jail, it

1912
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 3: felt the void.

1913
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 2: But it never is nothing.

1914
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: Going to change it, bro.

1915
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 3: But but the kid definitely makes you makes it easier.

1916
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 1: I don't have a kid, but I will say one thing,

1917
01:22:54,960 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 1: So chasing after that void, that emptiness, Really you want

1918
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 1: to be loved. I saw you rapping right now before

1919
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: we started filming this podcast about your women, and like

1920
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: I said, what I saw is you were happy, of course,

1921
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: and I love that feeling. As time has gone on

1922
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 1: and evolved and the generation is turned the page. I

1923
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: walked the streets now and people come up to me

1924
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: and they're like, yo, I grew up on your voice.

1925
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 1: Just a little slipper of that void because it's love.

1926
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: These people are showing me love and they're telling me

1927
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 1: that they hear my voice.

1928
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 3: And you help them through a dark time or your

1929
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 3: words did this? Like you hear all that stuff? A

1930
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 3: pivotal We played a pivotal role in music at a

1931
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 3: time when you know, New York hip hop was all

1932
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 3: over the place. I remember we had underground. We have

1933
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 3: people putting buggets on the camera lenses. You know what

1934
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Biggie and Jay really came and made people

1935
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 3: clean up, get that jury that money talk. So like you,

1936
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 3: you play a major role in people lives and when

1937
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 3: nobody will ever forget this, even when I called Nori

1938
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 3: and I'm like yo. He like, yo, what's your next

1939
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 3: shoot for the part? And I'm like, yo, I got

1940
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 3: pain in the ass coming. He even was like, oh nobody,

1941
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 3: no pain story. I'm like, yeah, man, like you know

1942
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 3: his voice, you know what the talent is, but they

1943
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 3: don't know the story. And that's why I wanted to

1944
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 3: give you your flowers on here and let people know

1945
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 3: you more than.

1946
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 2: Just a void.

1947
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: Give me some flower. The rest of that we could

1948
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Speaker 1: take care of that with just the flower. For got flowers.

1949
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Speaker 2: The people behind the scenes.

1950
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just need some flower bag, so that'll be

1951
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: all right.

1952
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 2: That's right, yo, chill yo.

1953
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 3: But anything you got new, anything you got coming up,

1954
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 3: anything you're working on, anything we should be expecting. Where

1955
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 3: can people find you at the follow you reach out

1956
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 3: to you if they can't reach your manager.

1957
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 1: Each reached the bleak manage.

1958
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Speaker 2: You know.

1959
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: I don't like to be followed. Following is like you know,

1960
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: I still live like in the same place, you know.

1961
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 1: Now whatever comes my way, I'm walking God's path, you

1962
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm a little different than I

1963
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: was when I was young, you know, So wherever God

1964
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 1: leads me, ever, God puts me, that's where I need

1965
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Speaker 1: to be. So that's what I'm working on now, that's

1966
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 1: wherever he puts me. I want to be in the

1967
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: best frame of mind. I want to be ready. You know,

1968
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: that's an important thing in this business. Always be ready

1969
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 1: because a lot of times I was called last minute

1970
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: and I had to be there. I had to show up,

1971
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: and I had to be the best, you know what

1972
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: I mean. So always be prepared. Always be prepared.

1973
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 2: As long as you prepare, you never have to get prepared.

1974
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 1: Exactly. Look at Bleak Bleak, the moment you came up

1975
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 1: to them, like you didn't realize that was going to

1976
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: change your life because you were prepared at that moment ago.

1977
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 2: But I wasn't.

1978
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,799
Speaker 3: But I wasn't prepared for the for the a Latin

1979
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 3: carpet ride we took. I didn't know that was going

1980
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 3: to happen. I'd have saved a lot more money. Back then,

1981
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 3: I was doing stupid.

1982
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 1: Were doing a lot of you were doing a lot

1983
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 1: of shows.

1984
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,480
Speaker 2: I was finally putting TVs in my car, watching.

1985
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 1: Jerry Spring Spring the while you're driving?

1986
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 2: Was I driving?

1987
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 1: Miss Daisy was driving?

1988
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 2: Remember it wasn't nothing on TV back then.

1989
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 3: Jenny Jones. Like used to watch Jenny Jones in front

1990
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 3: of the high school.

1991
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 1: And it was crazy read about all those shows that

1992
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 1: they're like catered toys, like like for females.

1993
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 2: To the Ricky Lake Show.

1994
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, you're watching a Ricky Lake show? Are

1995
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 1: they talking about that? Would that would resonate with me?

1996
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 3: Now you know the the Ricky Lake I used to

1997
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 3: look at it and be like, who's the secret crush?

1998
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1999
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: They bring him out? Yeah, my god, and I'm about

2000
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: to do you remember the Richard Bay Show?

2001
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 2: No, Richard was Richard Bay?

2002
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: Was Jerry Springer before Jerry Springer.

2003
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:45,480
Speaker 2: There is no Jerry Springer. Put us on the heatonism.

2004
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy.

2005
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 3: There is the only person you could call it Jerry

2006
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 3: Springer before you is Benny Hill.

2007
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:54,480
Speaker 1: Benny Hill, remember that.

2008
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 2: That's Jerry Springer before Jerry.

2009
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 1: When they chase him out of the town, out of there?

2010
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 1: What was there with the big mouth? What's his name?

2011
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: Morton Downey Jr. Remember him?

2012
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? But yo, if they can let Carrot Top get famous,

2013
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 2: come on, yeah, that's crazy.

2014
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 1: Come on, what do you get famous for? Carrots? I

2015
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:12,600
Speaker 1: just haven't read.

2016
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, like my pain, come on, pain.

2017
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: And he like he like started working out too crazy.

2018
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 1: It looked like pop up and he looked like like

2019
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: a third basement from the nineteen ninety eight Yankees or

2020
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: something right like you look like you're about to get

2021
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 1: a home run into the upper deck of.

2022
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 2: The But they still get booked.

2023
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 3: The Vegas Carrot Tops still got Billboard's evages.

2024
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 2: I don't know one.

2025
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 3: Character top joke movie nothing, So I'm saying pain. Listen

2026
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 3: see that. I let the man.

2027
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: Them and hammer baby by minute.

2028
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 3: You know what this is, man, This has been rock solid,

2029
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 3: and I appreciate you for this.

2030
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 2: Ain't gonna be the last time we need you back

2031
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:51,719
Speaker 2: on the show.

2032
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 1: Definitely.

2033
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 3: We're gonna have some comedians come up eventually, and I'm

2034
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 3: gonna let them know you're gonna burn them.

2035
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 2: You have comedian battles.

2036
01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: So wait, tell me real quick before we go, no

2037
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: time versus. Tell me about the concept of this of

2038
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 1: this show.

2039
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 2: Though.

2040
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 3: The concept of this show is just what you are solid.

2041
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 3: You know, we rock and we solid. The concept of

2042
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 3: the show is I want to highlight my people what

2043
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 3: you're into.

2044
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 2: Your talent.

2045
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 3: People could know how I become managers and put the

2046
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 3: speed stick on these guys. You know what I'm saying.

2047
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 3: And if y'all want to book you just this is

2048
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 3: what the platform is, man. It's just giving people story,

2049
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 3: letting people know the dedication, the hard work.

2050
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 2: You might inspire somebody somewhere.

2051
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 3: You never know, you know what I mean, somebody probably

2052
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 3: watching Family Guy right now and out there talking.

2053
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: Like Stewie right right, see that.

2054
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

2055
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: You never know, bro, No, you never do.

2056
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 2: Know.

2057
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: Anything is possible, anything is capable of happening.

2058
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 2: Believe God first, all the time.

2059
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 1: Man, Believe and believe in yourself. Believe in God, and

2060
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 1: just know that you know He's going to put you.

2061
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 2: Like belong when you belong. Remember to write people too,

2062
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 2: and what's for you will come to you.

2063
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely you don't won't. That's right, So don't don't ever

2064
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: nah some some dot just to come that wasn't for us.

2065
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 1: When they came, they really did come.

2066
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 3: Right, Jill, We out here man, Rock Solid, Baby Douce,

2067
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 3: Save My Fear of Mind, Right Exotics.

2068
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 2: Chick of the Pain.

2069
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 3: For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit iHeartRadio, app, Apple Podcasts,

2070
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 3: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at and

2071
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 3: you can follow me on any social media platform under

2072
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 3: the name Memphis Bleach. You see anybody fraud and flag

2073
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:36,679
Speaker 3: them