1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Media. What up, y'all, Let me tap in with you 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: right quick. This week's going to be a little meta, 3 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: a little personal, because in a lot of ways, I 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: take this personal. Last week a lieutenant governor, for which 5 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: maybe two of y'all care about, but it's important for 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: meta purposes. Micah Beckwick leaned up against his little desk 7 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: and is strangely fitting Khakis to give a little debriefing 8 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: following what had to have been quite the ownage by 9 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: the Democratic senators in their state debate around Senate Bill 10 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: two eighty nine, which is called the Unlawful Discrimination Bill 11 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: for the State of Indiana. Apparently, somebody in that discussion 12 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: that was clearly televised, somebody brought up the three fifths compromise, 13 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: to which this man actually fixed his tiny little lips 14 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: to make an argument that the three fits compromise was 15 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: not about slavery. Oh, Dilbert looking ass already know this 16 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: man's tender profile picture as him holding a fish within 17 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: reflective sunglasses. I already know this man daughter cuss at 18 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: him with her whole chest. Anyway, three fits compromise was 19 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: not about slavery. Apparently, Now that's quite a take, a 20 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: take for which no one at the time would have 21 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: accepted as to be true, but nonetheless is being borrowed 22 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: to try to defend this centin bill that is just 23 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: so important to him. Now, obviously, anti discrimination can invoke 24 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: a certain assumption about what it's about. But if you 25 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: have been living in this country during this timeline, you 26 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: would understand that a lot of these things that present 27 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: themselves of anti discrimination are quite discriminatory. This one is 28 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: a continuation of rolling back any sort of diversity or 29 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: inclusion or consideration of differences when onboarding to a particular institution, 30 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: whatever that institution may be. But that's not the point 31 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: of this tap in. Now. If you want to go 32 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: back to the Lost Cause series, or even me talking 33 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: about the Electoral College and the Three Phish Compromise and 34 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: what that had to do with voting rights, and still 35 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: the idea that like African Americans who are enslaved are 36 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: three fits humans because baked into the very concept of 37 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: the Three Phish compromise myth that somehow Africans are subhuman. 38 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: But let's set that aside for a second. Let me 39 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: talk to you about this. If you've lived long enough, 40 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: if it has not happened already, it's going to happen 41 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: to you very soon. You're going to be faced with 42 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: a moment where your lived experience with a person, or 43 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: a community of people, or a part on the planet 44 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: somehow or another, your lived experience which you are curly 45 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: witnessing and experiencing, will come in stark contrast to the 46 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: worldview for which you were taught, the way for which 47 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: you understood physics work. When you're experiencing something or someone that, 48 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: metaphorically speaking, according to the laws of physics that you 49 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: were given or made to believe that governs the universe, 50 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: this person, this experience should not exist. What do I 51 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: mean by that? Like, maybe you were taught something about 52 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: black people or the Latino community, or queer people or 53 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: people other religions. You were taught that these people were 54 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: the untouchables, or there was something particularly wrong with you, 55 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: something particularly different from them, something for which that you 56 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: needed to stay away from because it's going to pervert 57 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: the perfection of the world you're trying to exist in. 58 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: And then you meet one and they break all the rules, 59 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: you realize, oh, yeah, they're regular people, just like just 60 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: like you are. Or there's another situation where you may 61 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: have been taught that I don't know, people are just 62 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: generally good and things just work out, and you know, 63 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: if you work hard. The meritocracy myth. You work hard, 64 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: you do your best, you keep your nose clean, and 65 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: everything works out. And then you grow up and you realize, oh, no, 66 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: life is not fair at all. People hustle other people. 67 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: Your face with a moment that I talked about in 68 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: terror form in my poetry book Building a Liverabo World, 69 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: where we talked about like the possibilities of reality is 70 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: far crazier than you can imagine. There's a procrypal story 71 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: about I don't know, some astrophysicist von Kleigan whatever, like's 72 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: not his name's not the point He asked him about 73 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: why Copernicus was so epic and life changing to everyone. 74 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: Copernicus the guy who said that the Earth revolves around 75 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: the sun. He asked one of his students, like, why 76 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: was that so crazy? Because it's like, well, because it 77 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: don't look like it when you look in the sky 78 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: it looked like the sun is moving. Because that's crazy. Well, 79 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: what would it look like if it looked like the 80 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: Earth was revolving around the sun. An answer is this, 81 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: it would look the way it does look. It's just 82 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: you're faced with a dilemma. You either change. You either 83 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: accept the reality of what you're looking at because it's 84 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: what you're looking at, or you deny what you're looking 85 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: at and you hold on to the way for which 86 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: you thought about. The world works a lot of you, 87 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: especially because I meet you out and about, whether it's 88 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: through my music, my poetry, my books, or the podcast. 89 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: A lot of y'all come from faith based backgrounds, and 90 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: you have made it clear to me how thankful you 91 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: are to my music or my work because maybe my albums, 92 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 1: maybe a line in a poem or interview was the first, 93 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: like scratching the black paint that let light in that 94 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: you really understood that, like maybe the world is far 95 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: bigger than the cup for which you were given to contain. 96 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: That world started you on this path of inclusion, you know, 97 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: to think of the world differently, to experience the world 98 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: that you're actually experiencing. I've had those moments myself health 99 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: growing up in a church, going Bible, believe in black home, 100 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: and then you sit across the table, you go to 101 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: dinner with a Muslim family, or you make some queer 102 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: friends and you're like, well, I'll be damn, I thought 103 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: about this all wrong. A lot of us respond different 104 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: ways to that realization, to that moment in our lives. 105 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people that listen to 106 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: this show in the Bastard Show or expangelical or deconstructed, etc. 107 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: And You're like, what do I do with this frustration, 108 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: with this misinformation? I was given rage, get angry. Yeah, 109 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: I understand about I understand that I've done the same. 110 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: I try to think about the intentions of those people 111 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: who taught me these things. Some of them honestly didn't 112 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: know better. Some of them thought they were doing the 113 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: best they could. They're speaking out of their own brokenness. 114 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: But sometimes, oh they knew they was wrong. They knew 115 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: what they was trying to do. This governor knows what 116 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: the fuck he's doing. I don't believe this is your 117 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,559 Speaker 1: third grade teacher teaching you about column I been selling 118 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: The Ocean Blue in fourteen ninety two. I don't think 119 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: this is your summer camp who try to reenact the 120 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: first Thanksgiving. These are hundreds and hundreds of years later. Now, 121 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: while these people are not exonerated, i e. They are 122 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: perpetuating a institutional racism that is easily with the slightest 123 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: of google could be fixed. They continue to perpetuate it. However, 124 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: I still think it's different than what this governor is. 125 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: But the people that invented those stories, they knew what 126 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: the fuck they was doing. My brain goes to the 127 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: fact that I hate that people have to unlearn anything. 128 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: Why couldn't we have just been given the truth wards 129 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: and all maybe learn from our own mistakes. So me, 130 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: I feel like part of my life's work, my calling, 131 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: if you will, is I want to make sure, to 132 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: the best of my ability that I limit the amount 133 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: of unlearning the next gen has to do. And sometimes 134 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: that's me doing my due diligence, and other times that's 135 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: me meeting these fools in the streets calling bullshit cap ass, 136 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: bullshit cap when it's time to mocking and roasting with 137 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: all the ability that the ancestors has passed down to 138 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: me as a black man, I'm gonna roast the hell 139 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: out of this government because sometimes I feel like, if 140 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: you're don roast the hell out of these cornballs, if 141 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: you don't meet them immediately, would let me stop you 142 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: right there, playboy? And maybe I'm not gonna convince everybody, 143 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: but you gonna get this work then something like the 144 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: three fisths compromise, which we all know clearly and there's 145 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: time to fix this. That what he is saying is 146 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: absolute bullshit. For the record, his argument was that it 147 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: was not discriminatory. It was an attempt to compromise between 148 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: the colonies to make sure that everybody had a fair 149 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: shake in the powers, in the legislative powers as they 150 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: casted their vote, so that the North wouldn't always win 151 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: because although the South had more people, the South didn't 152 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: allow those people to vote. Those people, according to the Constitution, 153 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: were three fifths. So just like how the Confederacy was 154 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: about stage rights, the three fish Compromise is about fairness. 155 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: But his argument is that it's woke DEI that has 156 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: taught you that the three fifths compromise is about racist 157 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: slavery practices. Now, how wild as that sounds, right now, 158 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: give it fifty years, give it one hundred years, Just 159 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: like how wild the idea that Columbus in fourteen ninety 160 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: two was the first European to get here. I don't 161 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: understand how you could be the first person at a 162 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: place that people already live at, and not only that 163 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: it's already white people here then too, man, what the 164 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: hell is you talking about? It seems silly now, don't it. 165 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: But also, like we said in the Lost Cause episodes, 166 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: history is about the past, but memories about the future. 167 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: We remember things wrong all the time. But when things 168 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: are communicated to you so that you'll remember them wrongly, 169 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself who gains from this re 170 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: who loses from this reshaping? Because if you are trying 171 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: to reshape and re remember the past in a way 172 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: for which erases the warts, oh, then we're talking about 173 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: a zero sum situation. My encouragement to you all on 174 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: this tap in is when these people are playing in 175 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: your face, when they are trying to tell you that 176 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: up is down and the sky is purple, roast the 177 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: hell out of these people. Tap in, y'all,