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Speaker 1: Jerry, good morning. How are you, John R. J. I'm

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Speaker 1: so how much better of a mood are you in

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Speaker 1: I've had some Sunday Sunday night. And I'm proud for

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Speaker 1: These players. They're starting to feed off of each other.

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Speaker 1: That's what the team thing is about. And I think

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Speaker 1: the good news is that we've left ourselves some time

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Speaker 1: Jerry the Great gil Brand I remember his Ring of

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Speaker 1: Honor press conference. He started making Almari Cooper predictions and

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Speaker 1: you said, okay, Gil, that's enough. We're okay. We don't

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Speaker 1: want to hype it up too much. He came out

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Speaker 1: after the game and said, I thought that my Tony

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Speaker 1: Dorset trade was one of the greatest in NFL history,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to be guilty of Oprah over hyping.

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Speaker 1: This is Gil. He said, I think the Almari Cooper

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Speaker 1: had to say? Well, I know that Gil knows football

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Speaker 1: players without a doubt as well as anybody living, and

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Speaker 1: he knows how to assess their relative value as to

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Speaker 1: a team. And I know that he was very positive

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Speaker 1: the thing about Amari is that he's just going to

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Speaker 1: continue to look for ways to get better. And when

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Speaker 1: you couple that with the fact that his quarterback has

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Speaker 1: think all of these things are going to maybe give

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Speaker 1: Do you feel vindicated with the Amari trip Basically every

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Speaker 1: play he makes. There were some naysayers out there that

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Speaker 1: vindicated that you're quieting the critics, Well, I think that

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Speaker 1: he's worth the number one. I wouldn't have made the trade,

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Speaker 1: But you know this a team game, and you know

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Speaker 1: it takes almost forty up players to play the game.

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Speaker 1: So when you see a player come out and make

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Speaker 1: know that we were looking for a receiver if on

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Speaker 1: draft day in this coming spring, and there wasn't going

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Speaker 1: skill level, and frankly had had the benefit of two

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Speaker 1: in college. And when he came out in college, he

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter overtime, seventeen to twenty three, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: no interceptions. The clutch factors there would you put him

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Speaker 1: in terms of just the clutch Gene. Well, he the

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Speaker 1: thing you got to remember about Dak. He's so well prepared.

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Speaker 1: And I've said this, I don't know we've had a

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Speaker 1: takes it to the game, and so you know that

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Speaker 1: his preparations going to kick in at some particular point. Now,

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Speaker 1: I can't emphasize enough the need to take each play

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Speaker 1: You know, the object of the game, of course, is

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Speaker 1: emphasize enough that you hang around, and you hang through

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Speaker 1: about Dak. He's going to have something good to happen.

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Speaker 1: He's got the confidence of the team, he's got confidence

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Speaker 1: a character make up for our game football? Jerry, What

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Speaker 1: is more concerning to you if either Dak's fumbles he

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Speaker 1: penalizing ourselves. We're getting prestap penalties, we're getting key holding penalties,

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Speaker 1: But it's those things that are keeping us out of

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Speaker 1: got to do a better job of getting touchdowns. That's

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Speaker 1: try almost to say that, but it's the reason we're

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Speaker 1: zone with our personnel. Jerry, how do you get dacked though?

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Speaker 1: To protect the ball a little bit more in the pocket,

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Speaker 1: not necessarily from interceptions, but he's fumbling quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: it comes to turnovers. He thinks, he thinks turnover. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's very aware that turnovers what they do to the game.

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Speaker 1: How do you guys not lose the edge that you've

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Speaker 1: two weeks off can help it. On the other hand,

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Speaker 1: just have to see how he's doing at the end

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Speaker 1: But I would certainly think how those three we could

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Speaker 1: the defending champs, they're in the division. Was this win

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Speaker 1: bit sweeter because it came against Philly. Well, yes, they're

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Speaker 1: they're obviously a big rival of ours. They were proud

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Speaker 1: some degree playing us at home. And let's just face

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but walk out across there

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Speaker 1: Michael Irvin would not be happy about this because he

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Speaker 1: doesn't believe in defense wins championships. Michael says, you got

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Speaker 1: to points, points wins championships. You guys shut down the Saints.

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Speaker 1: that old saying of defense wins championships in an offensive

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Speaker 1: Last week you offered us the helicopter. I don't know

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Speaker 1: But this time we're open to whatever, as long as

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Speaker 1: you guys go and beat the colts. Well, listen, how

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Speaker 1: did I miss that? I thought that was you getting

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Speaker 1: on that helicopter yesterday, buzzing round. That's a buzz, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: that was a buzz. Incorrect buzz. I'm gonna put one

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Speaker 1: Actually I would do that. You do it. I would

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Speaker 1: definitely do not doing that though, Jerry, thanks for the time,

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Speaker 1: has always keeping rolling against Indy. We hope let's talk

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Speaker 1: to a playoff bound Jerry Jones next week. Alright, gain

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Speaker 1: alright Jerry Jones. Brought to you by Ford