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Speaker 5: I'm Bobby Belt from five through the Fan.

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Speaker 3: Tonight, We've got Dallas Cowboys dot COM's Kyle Yeoman's here.

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Speaker 6: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: As always, we have the three time Super Bowl champion,

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Speaker 3: six time Pro bowler, and Nate Newton, Yeah yeah, and

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Speaker 3: our Cowboys alumni this evening is an alum of Sam

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Speaker 3: Houston State and the Pride of Italy, Texas, former Cowboys

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Speaker 3: safety Keith Davis.

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Speaker 5: Keith, thank you for jording us tonight.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate Appy, and I love the fact you got

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Speaker 7: it right.

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Speaker 8: You say we were you practiced.

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Speaker 6: That's a that's a legit thing.

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Speaker 8: Italy.

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Speaker 6: You gotta know.

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Speaker 3: You know little south of Dallas. You gotta know some

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Speaker 3: of you gotta know Italy. You gotta know Lancaster. You

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Speaker 3: cannot say Lancaster. Yeah, they'll run you out of here.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, I always got that right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's there's some up and down there.

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Speaker 10: I grew up in Waco, so like every time I

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Speaker 10: would drive to Dallas, I would stop.

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Speaker 6: But the Italy stop, the rest stop on the side.

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Speaker 6: They got like a taco bell over there to stop

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Speaker 6: every single time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, all right, like that everything we

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Speaker 3: just mentioned there, Former Dallas Cowboys, Sam Houston State, Italy Texas.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about somebody who born and bred Texan through

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Speaker 3: and through. I know you're still here in the Metroplex.

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Speaker 3: You're now you're now coaching high school football.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know, when you look at your trajectory and where

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Speaker 3: you got started. I know when you were in Italy,

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Speaker 3: you were a big time high school football player, but

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Speaker 3: you also contributed on the basketball team. You lettered in baseball.

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Speaker 3: You were a three sport athlete. There's a lot of

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Speaker 3: discussion these days about preparing guys for for the next

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Speaker 3: and different things like that, and there's a discussion of

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Speaker 3: do you have guys in youth sports or high school

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Speaker 3: sports play multiple sports? Do you focus on one? Do

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Speaker 3: you feel like the multiple sports was a benefit for you?

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Speaker 8: Oh, it was definitely a benefit.

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Speaker 7: To let you know, we were the state champions and

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Speaker 7: my senior year at high school and I was the

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Speaker 7: MVP of the state tournament nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 5: And that was basketball.

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Speaker 8: Basketball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, basketball, What position you played?

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Speaker 7: I played two going Nate, that was averaging twenty seventh game.

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Speaker 7: I had Scott play. I had schottarships to play basketball

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Speaker 7: in huh North Texas, Uh Texas State, Southwest Texas, a

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Speaker 7: few other schools then go play basketball.

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Speaker 8: But my heart was.

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Speaker 7: Always on the grid isne So I was like, nah,

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Speaker 7: football was was a physical sport, so I was like,

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Speaker 7: So I figured out I forgured I fell well much

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Speaker 7: better on the on the football field, and it ended

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Speaker 7: up being the right decision at.

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Speaker 8: The end of the day.

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Speaker 7: So baseball position, I played second base, I played catcher,

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Speaker 10: Wow, those are three different, very different scenarios.

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Speaker 6: Baseball din I was probably catcher, I played a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 6: I played a little bit. I was pitcher, first basement okay, okay,

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Speaker 5: I didn't play Nate no, I quit.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, baseball, I was played football, but oh lord jezus,

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Speaker 9: baseball is scary.

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Speaker 8: I was at the Rangers game today.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm all Texas, man, I'm all Dallas. I'm all Texas.

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Speaker 7: Everything about it. I mean, I don't care at the Stars,

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Speaker 7: I don't care. I follow everything Dallas. Everything's Texas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of the things that I was scared

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Speaker 3: about in terms of just you talk about your trajectory

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Speaker 3: have those different offers. So were your offers that you had.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned a bunch of schools there in state of Texas,

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Speaker 3: but were the offers that you had better for basketball?

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Speaker 3: And you just said, Hey, the opportunities may not be

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Speaker 5: What was it? Was it the case of that?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 7: It was crazy how it happened, man, because like, I

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Speaker 7: went to college before me, so I didn't really know what.

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Speaker 8: Came with that. As I was going through my process.

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Speaker 7: By my junior year, I was All State first team,

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Speaker 7: I'll stayed receiver, first team, I'll stay safety. I was

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Speaker 7: I didn't take the test to my senior year when

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Speaker 7: I and that Ohio State flew in to see me.

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Speaker 8: I didn't even make the score the first time.

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Speaker 7: I took it again in February, which I made a

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Speaker 7: you know, I qualified it.

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Speaker 8: At that point, all.

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Speaker 7: Of the schools that I named before you they were like,

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Speaker 7: hey man, we can't wait.

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Speaker 6: They had always passed on wow.

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Speaker 7: And so that's how that's how I ended up in saying,

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Speaker 7: and I'm grateful that I ended up in saying mission statement.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't change my story for nothing.

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Speaker 7: I mean, at the end of the day, I made

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Speaker 7: with today by that happening.

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Speaker 3: Why did you end up You mentioned your first state

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Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball. Why did you end up

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Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball? Why was that

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Speaker 7: It was simple for me. I wanted to hit. I

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Speaker 7: didn't want to get hit. All I wanted to do

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Speaker 7: was do it hitting, And throughout my career, man, that's

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Speaker 7: why most people was like how many intersept there? I

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Speaker 7: don't matter how many people that I knock at.

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Speaker 10: Yes, I mean he was on the offensive side of

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Speaker 10: but it's a little bit different.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but in high school and college I was defensive

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was routing around it too.

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Speaker 7: I believe it hitting bro And you could tell when

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Speaker 7: when Nathan when when they were winning the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 8: I mean I saw all of it. I got it.

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Speaker 7: I was in high school, I was senior, my fresh

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Speaker 7: I mean freshman sophomore, junior, senior year.

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Speaker 8: We were winning.

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Speaker 7: I mean to the Bowl, y'all, I'm talking about it.

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Speaker 7: I can remember being on top of the hood when

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Speaker 7: we went. I'm talking about watching him, and that's people

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Speaker 7: don't understand. We were so dominant offensive line and defensive line,

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Speaker 7: mean from twing A to Stepanowski. I'm talking about Eric Williams.

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Speaker 7: I'm talking about from all those guys. Man, they dominated

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Speaker 7: And so that's the same recipe to be successful today.

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Speaker 3: When you mentioned growing up a big Cowboys fan and

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Speaker 3: seeing you know, those Super Bowl runs and different.

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Speaker 5: Things like that.

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Speaker 3: When you were watching those teams and then you played

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Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball, played safety, was it

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Speaker 3: just a natural Darren Woodson draw for you watching them

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Speaker 3: that's the guy that that I want to play like him.

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Speaker 7: That was my favorite player. That was my favorite player.

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Speaker 7: I mean, without a doubt, I think Darren Woodson. It's

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Speaker 7: a travesty that is not in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 7: I'm so sick. I mean just I text him every year,

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Speaker 7: right when they getting ready to go through, and we

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Speaker 7: always talk, because we still talk today. Ai Cam, I

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Speaker 7: call him camp Ali Cam. Just the year. They gotta

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Speaker 7: get it right. They gotta get it right, and sure enough,

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Speaker 7: when it comes back wrong, I text it back. I said, oh,

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Speaker 7: they're so full of yeah yeah, So I'll keep it

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Speaker 7: a PG. But I'm just telling you, man, like, it's

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Speaker 7: so disappointingt to not see him in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 7: I feel like he's a guy who really changed the game.

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Speaker 7: He plays special teams. He started He's one of the

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Speaker 7: first safeties to start covering wide receivers in the slot. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 7: I'm talking about I'm watching him cover Jared Rice do

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Speaker 7: his best, and he did, and he did some very

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Speaker 7: good stuff right against that he played safety. I mean,

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Speaker 7: he did it all. And he's awesome leading tackling for

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys. I mean, for what four or five probos,

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Speaker 7: I think three Super Bowls. I mean, I mean his

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Speaker 7: resume speaks for himself. So he's always been my favorite player.

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Speaker 7: I love the way he played the game.

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Speaker 10: I love the way you outlined it there too, because

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Speaker 10: the biggest argument for Darren to get into the Hall

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Speaker 10: of Fame is the Hall of Fame's whole mantra is,

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Speaker 10: if you can't tell the story of football without this player.

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Speaker 6: They should be in camp.

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Speaker 10: You can't tell the story of how the modern day

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Speaker 6: You talk about the resume, you add that in there.

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Speaker 10: You add the ability to change the game from a

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Speaker 6: And I know I'm speaking to the.

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Speaker 6: Hall of Fame. But it is it's a travesty that

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Speaker 4: So far.

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Speaker 3: There's a Nate had a great description of Darren Woodson

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Speaker 8: I was.

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Speaker 3: I was telling Sharen Williams about it, the long time

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Speaker 3: next year when we're in there presenting Darren, She's like,

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Speaker 3: just like gosh, don't let history forget him. Don't get

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Speaker 9: You know, we was with the Hall of Fame Charles

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Speaker 9: Hady does his thing to tackle tackle tomorrow. I think

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Speaker 9: I'm saying that right, And Darren Woodson walk up in

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Speaker 2: They play the game, big dent coming around that end.

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Speaker 9: Man just setting records for the bass as the sack leader.

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Speaker 9: And here we got Darren Woodson. Man change the game.

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Speaker 9: He says, two ways you can get in the Hall

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Speaker 9: like Gale Sales was school didn't play long all. You

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Speaker 9: left his print on the game. He played slot. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 10: Well, and I think the way you put it there

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Speaker 10: You could argue both of those were considered with Thearon.

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Speaker 10: I said, you guys are hitting the nail on the head.

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Speaker 6: This is it's a travesty. He's not there.

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Speaker 7: I pray they get it right, man, I mean, I

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Speaker 5: Even a I should tell you that what he deserves.

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Speaker 3: We've got Keith Davis, former Cowboys safety with us on

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Speaker 3: And then we've got, as we've mentioned, the Pride of Italy.

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Speaker 3: we're talking about this a little bit. We're teasing ahead

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Speaker 3: So that was the Dave Campos last year here. Then

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Speaker 7: Man, it's funny, you know you bring it up like

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Speaker 7: right back where I started, and I finished the season,

437
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Speaker 7: I come back and play. So I ended up playing

438
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Speaker 7: like thirty something games that year and one year.

439
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Speaker 2: I mean you thought.

440
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Speaker 8: At all.

441
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Speaker 2: Wow.

442
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Speaker 8: And and when I come back to Bill, he say, Son,

443
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Speaker 8: he said you can play? He say, I was had.

444
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Speaker 7: I have reservations about you, you say, but watching what

445
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Speaker 7: you've did over in Europe, and to see you come

446
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Speaker 7: back and play here, he say, Son, I see right now,

447
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Speaker 7: you can play this game.

448
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Speaker 3: Do you think it was all that was? It was

449
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Speaker 3: the NFL Europe the part of it? Or do you

450
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Speaker 3: think all that conditioning test and all those markers he

451
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Speaker 3: had you hit and then he still cut you. Do

452
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Speaker 3: you think that was still like if you would not

453
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Speaker 3: have done the condition right, do you think he would

454
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Speaker 3: have even given you that NFL Europe shot.

455
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Speaker 8: I don't think so.

456
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Speaker 7: What I I think I honestly thought they were gonna

457
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Speaker 7: use the fact that, oh, well he got shot, he's

458
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Speaker 7: not ready to play. And I was determined to prove

459
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Speaker 7: them that I was ready to play, regardless of what

460
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Speaker 7: had happened. Now, because if you had cut me already,

461
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Speaker 7: you should have cut me, because you're gonna give me

462
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Speaker 7: a chance to show up. I'm gonna show up and

463
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna be ready, and that's what happened. And then

464
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Speaker 7: he cut me after it.

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Speaker 10: Anyway, Wow, but like what he said, he said, you're

466
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Speaker 10: a football player, and that was what your whole mindset was,

467
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Speaker 10: even after having that adversity and having the injuries.

468
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Speaker 6: That you had to come back from.

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Speaker 10: I mean, the fact that you got back to it

470
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Speaker 10: was really that that showed him that you were indeed

471
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Speaker 10: of football players. Not only that you could play, but

472
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Speaker 10: you were built like it upstairs too. You have the

473
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Speaker 10: right mindset.

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Speaker 8: I agree. I agree one hundred percent, man, and I'm

475
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Speaker 8: grateful for it.

476
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Speaker 2: Man.

477
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Speaker 7: Like at the end of the day, Bill had already

478
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Speaker 7: told us, don't be here, don't do this, don't be that.

479
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Speaker 7: I was picking up a friend something altercation broke out,

480
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Speaker 7: wrong place, wrong time, and it happened, and I'm like, well,

481
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Speaker 7: you you were somewhere where he told you you weren't

482
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Speaker 7: supposed to be.

483
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Speaker 2: And so I can't tell you him in times that

484
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Speaker 2: happened to me, I was just driving.

485
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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 3: This is actually I'm curious for you guys on this.

487
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Speaker 3: You know, Nate, you spent time in USFL, you did

488
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Speaker 3: NFL Europe, the Cowboys the last few years have had

489
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Speaker 3: a lot of success getting people from USFL, XFL whatever

490
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Speaker 3: different term.

491
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Speaker 6: It has been called the Summer League.

492
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cavante Turpin and and you've got Brandon Aubrey and

493
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Speaker 3: some of these examples that they've gotten. Giving y'all's experience

494
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Speaker 3: in both leagues, do you think that, because it's been

495
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Speaker 3: kind of a slow embrace, that's starting to get there,

496
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Speaker 3: But do you think that the NFL needs to embrace

497
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Speaker 3: more of that? Hey, let's get some of these developmental

498
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Speaker 3: leagues together, because just come of some of the practice

499
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Speaker 3: restrictions that exist with the CBA.

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Speaker 5: And things like that. Guys need time to develop and

501
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Speaker 5: become the players that they're going to be.

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Speaker 9: The problem is not the skill position players, even the

503
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Speaker 9: Kidner's opponents. The problem is you can't find enough quality

504
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 9: offensive defensive lineman, so that tears the game down. I mean,

505
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Speaker 9: you either got to open this thing like when I

506
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 9: played the USFL and make it all about the offense,

507
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Speaker 9: you know, a uh, And that's the only way it's

508
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Speaker 9: going to succeed unless you just start taking guys out

509
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Speaker 9: of college and developing them. I'm talking about offensive defense line.

510
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 9: That's where the league is feeling at offensive defense line.

511
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Speaker 9: That's how you win on every level.

512
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Speaker 2: Even pop warning.

513
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Speaker 9: If you can get a good defense and they get

514
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Speaker 9: from Disci one, they can beat up that little running quarterback.

515
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Speaker 6: And there's a shortage. Yes, those positions.

516
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Speaker 10: Yea coach at Bishop Done High School, I'm sure you

517
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Speaker 10: guys see the same thing, even trickle down to the high.

518
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Speaker 8: School with a disadvantage in right now, that's okay, we

519
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Speaker 8: got work.

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Speaker 2: We got work. Yeah, work, You're going to send them

521
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Speaker 2: an NFL You're.

522
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Speaker 4: I'm glad that the Bishop Done thinking. I'm curious for you.

523
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Speaker 3: You know, you were you were obviously very talented, being

524
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Speaker 3: first state on both sides of the ball in high school,

525
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Speaker 3: the career that you had, and and and you were

526
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Speaker 3: also thought of it. I think it's kind of like

527
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: blue collar, hard nos tough, gritty football player. So when

528
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Speaker 3: was it in the point of your career or even

529
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Speaker 3: after your career? He said, you know what, like, I

530
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Speaker 3: want to get into the teaching side of the game, though,

531
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Speaker 3: Like I want to tell these guys about the game

532
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Speaker 3: and then start bringing up some of the high school

533
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Speaker 3: plays because we see so many of these former players

534
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Speaker 3: who come and sit down with us that we find

535
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: out that's their big passion project. And I was like, hey,

536
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Speaker 3: I'm in the high school football and I absolutely love coaching.

537
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Speaker 8: The biggest thing.

538
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Speaker 7: I feel like I have a wealth of knowledge to

539
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Speaker 7: pass on, to pay to play it, pass it forward

540
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Speaker 7: from the standpoint that I love this game and this

541
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Speaker 7: game is given me everything that I have in my life.

542
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Speaker 7: But I gave this game everything that I had, so

543
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Speaker 7: and in return, I feel like I owe it to

544
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Speaker 7: these kids to give them the knowledge that was given

545
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Speaker 7: to me that I was blessed. Because everybody's not going

546
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 7: to make it. I understand that, but I'm not just

547
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Speaker 7: teaching football and I'm teaching life. So you know, for

548
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Speaker 7: me my son, I have my youngest he's a freshman,

549
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Speaker 7: so he's playing for Bishop Done and so I made

550
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Speaker 7: a promise to myself. I say, I'm gonna be there.

551
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna walk him through this thing. I want to

552
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Speaker 7: sit there. I want to give him everything that I

553
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Speaker 7: have because at the end of the day, once this

554
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Speaker 7: is done, I don't want him to look back and

555
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Speaker 7: have any excuses to say, hey man, well dad, you

556
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 7: didn't do this and this. Now I'm gonna do everything

557
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Speaker 7: I can possible to put you in a position to

558
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Speaker 7: be successful in life. It's not just football, basketball, or

559
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Speaker 7: whatever it is you're doing. I just understand just knowing

560
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 7: that football teaches you so much about life. Like Naked

561
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 7: attested this, he knows man responsibility and accountability, how to

562
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Speaker 7: work with people that you really don't like or get

563
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 7: along with. But we all working towards one come and go,

564
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Speaker 7: you know at the end of the day. So for me,

565
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Speaker 7: I just giving back to the game. That's always been

566
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Speaker 7: a passion of mind. And I enjoy doing what I do.

567
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Speaker 7: And the crazy thing, I'm the middle school head coach.

568
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Speaker 7: I'm secondary and wide receiver for the high school. I

569
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Speaker 7: enjoy the middle school process more than anything. Ain't because

570
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Speaker 7: those kids right there in middle school, sixth, seventh, and

571
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Speaker 7: eighth grade, they'll run through the wild for me.

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Speaker 8: They run through the wild for me. That's the foundation

573
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Speaker 8: of it.

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Speaker 7: You get those guys in high school, you know, you

575
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 7: have so many people in the ear where you should

576
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 7: be starting now, you should be there so that you know,

577
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 7: and so you try to tell them something, they feel

578
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 7: like they already knew it. So it's kind of a

579
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 7: little more difficult to get to those kids which I

580
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 7: enjoy the process of that also. But for me, man,

581
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Speaker 7: the foundation is right there, sixth, seventh, and eighth grade,

582
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Speaker 7: and I enjoy that process of getting those guys.

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Speaker 9: Because the phone dominates. Yes, ye, something about ninth grade. Yes,

584
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Speaker 9: in the phone switches a little girl and little girls.

585
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Speaker 9: That girl who you I don't like her all of

586
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Speaker 9: a sudden, Wow, she's pretty. Now I'm just starting running back.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's take our second break here on the

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Speaker 3: SLBBC Cowboys Crosstalk. We're joining tonight by former Cowboys safety

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Speaker 3: Keith Davis. When we come back, we got to talk

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Speaker 3: to not only former Cowboys safe to Keith Davis, but

591
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Speaker 3: Cowboys super fan Keith Davis about what we saw in

592
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Speaker 3: Philadelphia last Thursday. How competitive that game was. If you

593
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Speaker 3: can take moral victories out of lost.

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Speaker 2: I knew you're.

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Speaker 3: here on the SLBC Cowboys Cross.

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Speaker 3: safety Keith Davis with us now. Uh and we're here

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Speaker 3: on one O five three the fan in Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 3: dot Com. All right, we had the the opening game

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Speaker 3: in Week one against Philadelphia, a game that there were.

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Speaker 4: Some positives you could take out of it, but but

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Speaker 4: you guys just.

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Speaker 5: Said it going to break.

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Speaker 4: There's no such thing as as moral victories.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: As as somebody told me one time. I was asking

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Speaker 3: somebody with the team a couple years back. I was like,

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Speaker 3: is this a moral victory? And they were like, you

621
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Speaker 3: know what's a moral victory?

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Speaker 2: UH?

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Speaker 3: Victories when we win that that helps our morale too.

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Speaker 3: We don't need the loss to have the moral victory.

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Speaker 3: But when you look at that game and Keith, I

626
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Speaker 3: know you're you're your Cowboys super Fader. I want to

627
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Speaker 3: just kind of go down line Keith Nate and then Kyle,

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Speaker 3: your thoughts just in general on the game and some

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Speaker 3: of maybe the positive things you think they can build

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Speaker 3: on in some of the areas of concern.

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Speaker 7: When I watched that game, we had every opportunity to

632
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Speaker 7: win that game. I think about the fumble that was major.

633
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Speaker 7: I'm talking about major. The drafts by CD, that was major.

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Speaker 7: I mean, n CD would be the first one to say,

635
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Speaker 7: you gotta make those plays. One thing that I do

636
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Speaker 7: like the defensive line. The defense we were able to

637
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Speaker 7: hold Saque like sixty yards rushing. That's major. You can

638
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 7: you can build on that. I thought the offensive line

639
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 7: played well. I thought we got some movement. I think

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Speaker 7: at the end of the day, we're we're headed in

641
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 7: the right direction. I like where we're going. But at

642
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 7: the end of the day, there's still no more victories.

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Speaker 7: You gotta win and you're gonna be judged by wins

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00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 7: and losses, and that's that's definitely areas we can improve on.

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Speaker 7: We can get more pressure. We need to get more pressure.

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Speaker 7: Keep contained. I mean the biggest thing we lost contained

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Speaker 7: on Jalen. I mean, there were a couple of times

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Speaker 7: that that fouler in forty one at the end, they

649
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 7: just crashed inside, and I'm like, why you cannot do that?

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Speaker 7: I mean, at least just keeping bottled up, you know,

651
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Speaker 7: and we'll have a chance to make the place. But overall, man,

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Speaker 7: I like what I saw for the most part, but

653
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Speaker 7: there's still a lot of room for prove.

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Speaker 8: Me And my biggest thing also, one big, one other thing.

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Speaker 7: C D killed number eight, the guy in the first

656
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Speaker 7: So when when they moved him to Pickens, why didn't

657
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Speaker 7: we go to George and George.

658
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Speaker 9: Like, George answer that question, man, But hey, they'll get

659
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 9: to him when they do this, this office is gonna

660
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 9: gonna flourish, you know what. That played the hell of

661
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 9: the game he did to me, he did and it's

662
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 9: not talked about enough, you know, because I watched offense

663
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Speaker 9: Ryan play.

664
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Speaker 2: Our offensive line was just good. It was just good,

665
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Speaker 2: you know.

666
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Speaker 9: And and and getting to that fourth quarter, his pocket

667
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,959
Speaker 9: presence was was nice because it wasn't always nice up front,

668
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 9: and he made some things happen.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm the.

670
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Speaker 9: CD drops, okay, but that fumble, yeah, right before the half. Uh,

671
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Speaker 9: Like I said, a lot of people can cry out

672
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 9: a lot of things. You know, we all got our

673
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 9: podcast making. You know, we gotta gotta feel content.

674
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: That's crucial.

675
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Speaker 7: Bro.

676
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Speaker 9: If that had been Bill and Jimmy, I told him,

677
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Speaker 9: I said, I asked Date his Miles still here?

678
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: Oh?

679
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 8: Man?

680
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

681
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 8: With Bill?

682
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bro, I watched You're a veteran. Yeah, Jimmy would

683
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: have been like he called him, you call him who

684
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: you call Bruce the Turk. We called him the crib keeper,

685
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: called the crib the crib tap on the shoulder. Yeah,

686
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: man in the world like that. But anyway, go ahead,

687
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

688
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think you guys hit on a lot of

689
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 10: the great points. Leaving points off the board there in

690
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 10: the red zone was big. And to talk about, I

691
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 10: mean the last coaching staff Mike McCarthy went Hunter Lipkey

692
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 10: fumble that the goal line against Miami. Yeah, a couple

693
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 10: of years back, he didn't have another snap the rest

694
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Speaker 10: of the year, another carry.

695
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 6: He had some snaps that didn't have another carry the

696
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 6: rest of the year.

697
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Speaker 10: So it's still a modern day thought process, but it's

698
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 10: a little more relaxed in certain situations. With Miles Sanders,

699
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 10: I was a big proponent of keeping him on the roster,

700
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,959
Speaker 10: so breaks free for forty nine yards on that drive.

701
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 8: Looked good the whole tubesman, and then he gets.

702
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 10: Caught from behind by a linebacker and Zach Bond that

703
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 10: was the first thing, is like, oh, man, maybe he

704
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 10: just doesn't have that next level, that next gear. And

705
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 10: then to have the fumble. It was kind of a

706
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 10: double whammy there at the back end of it. It's

707
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 10: still forty nine yard game. I liked what we saw,

708
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 10: and then of course it falls to the ground.

709
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 6: But you talked about Dak looking great.

710
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 10: I thought his play was phenomenal, and then I know, Nate,

711
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 10: you go back and watch the film pretty quickly afterwards.

712
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 10: I usually try and do it the morning after. I

713
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 10: try and spend watching the game back on all twenty two.

714
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 10: I've never been so refreshed watching the interior defensive line

715
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 10: play that we saw on Sunday, maybe my entire time

716
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 10: covering the team going back to twenty nineteen. I mean,

717
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 10: it's been rough in the middle all the way through

718
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 10: these years, whether it's guys like Mazi or Don Terry

719
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 10: Poe or struggling in the middle that on names outside

720
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Speaker 10: of that, because it's not just those two guys who

721
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 10: have had struggles in the run defense and on the interior.

722
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 6: But Kenny Clark, my goodness, I mean, there are a

723
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 6: couple snaps.

724
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Speaker 10: He has, absolutely and it's something that and we said

725
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Speaker 10: it when he got traded in the Mica trade. He

726
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 10: gets off the plane is your best defensive tackle. He

727
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 10: gets off the plane as your best nose tackle in

728
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 10: a one technique, and he's got some versatility on the

729
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 10: line too. Think we saw a sliver of why he

730
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Speaker 10: could make a really big impact here in Dallas.

731
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Speaker 6: And it's just week one.

732
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Speaker 10: And even though it is just week one, and went

733
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Speaker 10: up against the team that led the NFL in rushing

734
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Speaker 10: last year and arguably has the best offensive line in

735
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Speaker 10: the NFL. So benchmark wise, you've already seen the best.

736
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,959
Speaker 10: He should only continue to get better in his second, third, fourth, fifth,

737
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 10: and so on week as a part of this organization.

738
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 10: So it was a good start for me in the

739
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,959
Speaker 10: run defense. And that was a big positive to build

740
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Speaker 10: off of.

741
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Speaker 9: This is you have enough new guys, veterans and young guys.

742
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 9: When and I'm going back to Jim and Parcels, when

743
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 9: we played a team that we felt that was physically better,

744
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 9: we found out what that true tempo is. I'm hoping

745
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 9: that our boys can feel that temple and start dishing

746
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 9: that temple, living up to that temple. The problem with

747
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 9: practices is Jimmy Parcels. Parcels was his mentor. Jimmy used

748
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 9: to tell us I don't need for the game to start,

749
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 9: and you right here. I need for the game to

750
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 9: start and you right here. That means all we gotta

751
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 9: do is take two steps and we closing the door. Yea,

752
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 9: that that is what we missed.

753
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 10: You felt like you had to take multiple steps to

754
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 10: get there, to get there, and they got close, but

755
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 10: just not enough.

756
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Speaker 2: And that's where it from. That's fair.

757
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's what it because we you know, even though

758
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 9: Emmett told it in the one hand, the same hands,

759
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 9: and you know, you know him will we don't need,

760
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 9: we don't need a fumble. Yeah, that's the last thing

761
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 9: he will hear, you know. And then I jump off side.

762
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Speaker 6: Start sixty one offense. Yeah, five yard penalty.

763
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Speaker 3: That's a that's a I really want to zero in

764
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Speaker 3: on that discussion you're having there about like the gap

765
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Speaker 3: on game day. Yeah, and then practically and because both

766
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Speaker 3: of you, I'm curious what this means you you might

767
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 3: be able to interpret this. There's a lot of discussions

768
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Speaker 3: were talking about the Miles Sanders thing. There's a lot

769
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Speaker 3: of discussion about why is Jayden Blue not out there

770
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Speaker 3: a fifth round pick, a guy that you wanted to

771
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Speaker 3: be involved these sort of things, and people talking about

772
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Speaker 3: man's he's got the speed he's breaking away. To be fair,

773
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Speaker 3: I will give Miles Sanders' credit, I don't know what

774
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Speaker 3: the Jayden Blues running with the same patience to even

775
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Speaker 3: get down because.

776
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Speaker 4: Thats a lot of coggestion and he he bought.

777
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Speaker 3: So so but when you look at that, Brian Schottenheimer

778
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Speaker 3: got asked why was he inactive and and he made

779
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Speaker 3: a state and he said, look, he said, we we

780
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Speaker 3: need guys. He said, Tyler Booker is a good example

781
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: of a rookie who he's not been perfect, but he's

782
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Speaker 3: been consistent.

783
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Speaker 5: We know what to expect from him. This is what

784
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Speaker 5: he did.

785
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Speaker 3: He said, there's some guys they're doing what they need

786
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: to do on Wednesday, and then Thursday they're not, and

787
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 3: then Friday they're they're they're doing what they need to do.

788
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 3: But oh, this isn't great. He's like, I just need

789
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: to know the same guy every day. So when Brian

790
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 3: Schawtinheimer said something like that, cut through and he's not

791
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 3: generally coach speak guy, but cut through maybe some of

792
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: the coach speaking just say what what does that mean?

793
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: In practical terms? What is somebody like a Jaydon Blue

794
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: doing on a Thursday? That would be something that a

795
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 3: coach would say, you're not ready to step out there

796
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Speaker 3: on game day.

797
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Speaker 2: You may miss a blitz that's Dak on his back.

798
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Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, and see yeah, I don't care if you're

799
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 9: running right home, but I need from in that corner, uh,

800
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 9: that late safety blitz come off that end. I do

801
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 9: not need you looking over to your left because that's

802
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 9: Dak that that right there was scared of running back

803
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 9: and a head coach to death like where was she

804
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 9: supposed to be? And see you don't get a second

805
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 9: chance from your quarterback and splatter. Yeah, I mean, mistakes happen,

806
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 9: but you don't want them mistakes. Now, that's why Sanders

807
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 9: is a little bit different. Ye, I mean I cracked

808
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 9: the joke about but that's where he would see that he.

809
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 8: Picked up.

810
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 7: And picking up those I mean that is you have

811
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 7: so much investing in that you can't afford for dak

812
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 7: to be on his back because a running back went

813
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 7: the wrong way on the Blitz pick up man and

814
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 7: he's like, oh my bad, No, it's.

815
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Speaker 2: Not so bad.

816
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 3: Does that mean something to guys you think when they

817
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 3: see here's a guy Jing Blu who's expected, like people

818
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 3: talking about him being the starting running back potentially when

819
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 3: they hit camp, but he's not just being handed something

820
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: like does that does that mean something of the guys

821
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 3: who are fighting for active spots on game?

822
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 5: Any things like that?

823
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 3: Like, Okay, if I put in the work I'm seeing

824
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 3: as long as we're doing with Shotty says to do,

825
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,959
Speaker 3: we will be given the opportunities and there's not gonna

826
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: be anything just politically given to anything.

827
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 9: It's two or three times I can straight out tell

828
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 9: you when it's been open competition and it's showing up parcels.

829
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: First got here, yep, he told everybody. I don't know

830
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: none of y'all. Oh you are to Jersey numbers.

831
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 9: When Jimmy got here, and I'm thinking, now, it's the

832
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 9: first time in a long time. You know, you got

833
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 9: the core players, the four or five players that are

834
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 9: slided in, but everybody else got to pick up the game.

835
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Speaker 7: I mean everybody else. I mean being ahead wooding them

836
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 7: with their name on the front of that.

837
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 8: I'm looking. I'm thinking, it's not just rookies, this is everybody. Look.

838
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 7: So he's and he always would say, he says, it's

839
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 7: going to come a time you're gonna have to show me. Yes, right,

840
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 7: he said, I don't care you. You guys have been here,

841
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 7: you veterans, Whatson, You're gonna have to show me. You're

842
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 7: gonna have to show me. And you not, did you

843
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 7: not by going on to the NFL you were coming?

844
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 7: Did you not have to sho show them.

845
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 10: I've got a story that kind of plays along with that,

846
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 10: and it's with Coach Schottenheimer, one of the individuals within

847
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 10: the building that's a.

848
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 6: Part of practices, and we were just having a.

849
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 10: Conversation about the culture and about the energy and all

850
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 10: the terms that now Cowboys fans are probably tired of

851
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 10: hearing of the there's a standard in practice where if

852
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 10: you make a mistake, you have a false start, you

853
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 10: have an off side, you miss an assignment, you're out

854
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 10: for the next rep. Right well, during the previous coaching staff,

855
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 10: and this is not a knock on Mike McCarthy, but

856
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 10: they invest their times in their starters, and so if

857
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 10: you're CD Micah, whatever the big name starter was during

858
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 10: the Mike McCarthy era, if you messed up or you

859
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 10: missed a rep, not.

860
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 6: Traditionally, not every time, they would leave.

861
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 10: During the first camp practice that there was a rep

862
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 10: where Dak had a miss cue, he missed time, the snap,

863
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 10: he missed time, the snap count.

864
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 6: It popped up.

865
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 10: Brian Schottenheimer was right behind him and said get out

866
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 10: of here, for you're out of here, and in comes

867
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 10: Joe Milton, and Joe Milton filled in for that rep,

868
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 10: and Dak looked like surprised for a moment that there

869
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 10: was that conversation. So I think there's a level of

870
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 10: accountability there. But it's still week one. There's a long

871
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 10: way to go in the season, and it's gonna take

872
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 10: time for that accountability to show up on a on

873
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 10: a field and show up in a in a bigger sense.

874
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Speaker 6: But at least it's heading in the right direction.

875
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 8: No, I get that, man.

876
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 7: You always want to hold every every player accountable for

877
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 7: their own actions. I mean, and when you see something

878
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 7: like that happens, then he lets those other guys know

879
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 7: that we're fighting for ROSSI spies night.

880
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 8: Yes he's not Okay, he's not getting I got a chance.

881
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: I got a chance.

882
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 7: And as far as and go back to the Philly game,

883
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 7: Joe Milton would have been playing anyway if I was that.

884
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what that is?

885
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 3: That is a That is a great little look at

886
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: Keith Davis could be a professional broadcaster too, because that

887
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: that is a great tease. When we come back, We're

888
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: gonna take a look at the New York Giants. But

889
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 3: I'm also gonna ask you, guys, have you ever been

890
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: so mad you could spit? We're talking about that with

891
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Speaker 3: Keith Davis, Nate Newton, Kylie Owens, I'm Bobby Belts. We'll

892
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 3: be back here on the sl BBC Cowboys Cross Talk.

893
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Speaker 11: Cowboys, No Cowballs, don't cowboys.

894
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Speaker 2: Talk?

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Speaker 1: Back back to SWBC Mortgages Dallas. Cowboys Crosstalk.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Club at the Star in Frisco for the SWBC Cowboys crosstalk.

904
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Speaker 3: I'm Bobby Belt from one O five through the fan

905
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 3: got Kylie Owens fro Dallas was dot com with me.

906
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: Six time Pro bowler, three time Super Bowl champion, Nate

907
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 3: Newton is here, and our special guest this evening is

908
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: former Cowboys safety Keith Davis. So we we teased it

909
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 3: a little bit, going to break and and Nate had

910
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 3: just wide eyes and and and looked like he had

911
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Speaker 3: a lot that he wanted to get off of his chest.

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Speaker 3: So Dan, I'm gonna start with you, uh, the the

913
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Speaker 3: Jalen Carter spitting incident, your your just general thoughts on

914
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 3: how all that happened? And have you ever seen a

915
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Speaker 3: player get ejected before the first snap?

916
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Speaker 11: No?

917
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean did anybody get ejected in

918
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Speaker 3: the ninety three tunnel the NFC Championship game?

919
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Speaker 7: No?

920
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: But but but I'm with I'm with Keith Man. It

921
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: should have been two dudes ejected at least three, maybe

922
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Speaker 2: three or four, because brother, I'm looking brother.

923
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Speaker 9: Brother, it's two Thames.

924
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Speaker 2: You're not gonna do to me?

925
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Speaker 7: Man?

926
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Speaker 9: Now, you making do one on? When I got my

927
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Speaker 9: heim on, you making snap me with my heilmet on

928
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Speaker 9: and I won't be as irate, you know, but my

929
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Speaker 9: helmet off and you slap me.

930
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Speaker 2: We're gonna take that.

931
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Speaker 9: We're gonna walk it off the field, you know, you

932
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Speaker 9: know they can baby to do for Philadelpha his security.

933
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna bust him.

934
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Speaker 9: Up to We're gonna walk this off the field, big dog.

935
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Speaker 9: I'm gonna follow him right onto the bus till I

936
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Speaker 9: get my hands on it. So so spitting man, I'm

937
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Speaker 9: past keep it ain't happening. I'm getting fine.

938
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Speaker 2: Whatever. The little two thousand just paying me for month

939
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Speaker 2: a week. I'm losing it. You can tell me.

940
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Speaker 3: Is there any chance you guys would know you you

941
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Speaker 3: know how loud it is on the field and everything

942
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Speaker 3: that is there any chance they wouldn't have seen Jalen

943
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Speaker 3: Carter do that?

944
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 5: Like they didn't see it happen. They just knew something

945
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Speaker 5: had occurred.

946
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Speaker 8: Not in today's game. I mean, it's too many.

947
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Speaker 3: The guy's in the huddle actively in that moment. Is

948
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Speaker 3: it possible they didn't see it?

949
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Speaker 7: It's crazy because when I look back, when I saw

950
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 7: it on the line of wind, the hood of getting ready,

951
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 7: they were getting ready to do that and him would

952
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 7: had on whatever the what happened, whatever they had going on.

953
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Speaker 7: And then you can see that he walked through that's

954
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Speaker 7: been at the ground, but he when he walked through

955
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 7: the linean and you can see all the linemen had

956
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 7: their backsterms just like this the whole time. So it

957
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 7: was one of those things where it was like that

958
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 7: was just him and it seemed like it was something

959
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 7: deeper than me.

960
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna tell you something. See this is believe

961
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Speaker 2: it or not.

962
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 9: I don't know if it's a bad thing, but how

963
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 9: do you follow at number ten? But that's one of

964
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 9: these he failed to tell spot in the Eagles guy question. Yeah,

965
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 9: that's what.

966
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: This dude is. Man, He's a switch.

967
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

968
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 9: I mean one minute he rides Mitchell rolling it. Next minute, man,

969
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 9: he's trying to take you ride.

970
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 5: Well, and the story we got postgame.

971
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 3: The story we got postgame was the whole reason for

972
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: the initial Dak and Jalen Carter interaction was when they

973
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: walked on the field, Jalen Carter was instantly trying to

974
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 3: get in Tyler Booker's head, okay, and it was chirping

975
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 3: at Tyler Booker and Dak basically stepped in it was

976
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 3: like a deal with me and like started dealing so

977
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 3: on that kind of a front. Is that is that

978
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 3: similarly like a hey, I got a captain, I got

979
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 3: a quarterback who's gonna ride a different guy like Tyler

980
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 3: book or other guys on the offensive line when it's like, man,

981
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: this rookie's walking out here of the field, he's getting

982
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: trash talk by a super Bowl hero Jayalen Carter, and

983
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 3: it's your quarterback step and I'm going you can you

984
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 3: can lead this.

985
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 5: You can talk to me if you need to talk

986
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 5: to somebody.

987
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 8: You know.

988
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 9: The thing about it, man, they do it how they

989
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 9: do it because we had no use talking stoop. But

990
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 9: nine times out of ten, regardless of who he is,

991
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 9: as much respect as I have with Jerome Brown, you

992
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 9: weren't just gonna, you know, you one would talk to

993
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 9: me any kind of way. And I'm gonna give you

994
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 9: my best that I can.

995
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 8: Yeah.

996
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 12: Well, and wasn't it wasn't there a stat out there

997
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 12: too where the only sacks that Tyler Booker allowed was

998
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 12: to him in college was only to Jayalen Carter at Georgia.

999
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 6: That was the only time only guy that had any

1000
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 6: level of success. So Dak probably whether he do that

1001
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 6: or not, he's gonna step up for his guy.

1002
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 2: He always has me and he always will.

1003
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 6: But to I think there was that the fact that

1004
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 6: the cameras you talked about having too many cameras, the

1005
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 6: cameras picked it up.

1006
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 10: Dak was spitting in the general direction, and then he

1007
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 10: notices that conversation and decides to continue stepping in the

1008
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 10: middle of it, and then it ends up escalating.

1009
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:08,959
Speaker 6: It's just a while.

1010
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: I saw the switch. Yeah, when they showed him. I

1011
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 2: don't know if it's a good thing.

1012
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 9: I say, ten is a great place in the NFL

1013
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 9: to be chosen tent flair pig, but he failed.

1014
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: He's a great place the top two pick yah.

1015
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 3: The top two talent for sure. That guy was supposed

1016
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: to wreck sh up. Now when we just said, Nate said,

1017
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 3: we had guys that we're talking to us and and

1018
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 3: Keith Davis is our guest here tonight. Keep you put

1019
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: your hand up.

1020
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 5: So that was so.

1021
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 3: Can you remember a time of just a guy that

1022
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 3: I know you said, pop Kevin Smith used to pull

1023
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 3: on Jerry Rice's towel and get him on. Can you

1024
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 3: remember one player in particular that used to just like

1025
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 3: get under their skin and and get them out of

1026
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 3: the game.

1027
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 7: Oh we got I remember we were playing Carolina and

1028
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 7: the Panthers and we got Steve Smith kicked out.

1029
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 8: And that's a last night. Yeah, we got Steve Spick

1030
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 8: kicked out of the game.

1031
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: We played.

1032
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 7: Uh we we go up to Carolina and uh we

1033
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 7: doubled him the whole game. Like I was over the

1034
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 7: top the whole game. And whether it was Newman or

1035
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 7: Anthony Henry, whoever was the corner was I mean, he

1036
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 7: was so frustrated the whole game. And I think Newman

1037
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 7: that hit him out of bounds and and he was

1038
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 7: he was talking smack and I started talking smack back

1039
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 7: to him, and he I think he either bumped into

1040
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 7: the referee or he did something. And the next thing

1041
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 7: you know, they're like eighty nine's out of there. And

1042
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 7: that was the best thing that could have happened for us.

1043
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 7: I'm like, so, Steve Smith, I remember that we was

1044
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 7: up in Carolina. He only had like two catches at

1045
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 7: the time when it had happened. Man, man, I mean

1046
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 7: Steve Smith the utmost respect for that guy. I'm talking about.

1047
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 7: He's a great, great competitor. He'll let you know about

1048
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 7: it anytime he's doing anything, and we would go back

1049
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 7: and forth. Man, So I love competing against him. Man,

1050
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 7: great player, But we got him out all right here.

1051
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 3: Just about the last minute that we got really quickly.

1052
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 3: Giants coming up this weekend Russell Wilson. Brian Dable confirmed

1053
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson will be back out there starting. A guy

1054
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 3: that you know, Shot, he's very familiar with. He let

1055
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 3: him cook in Seattle and he's talked to Joke before

1056
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 3: that that might have gotten about in Seattle really quickly. Keith, Nate,

1057
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 3: just your quick keys to the game.

1058
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 7: What you want to see this week, man, I want

1059
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 7: to see is, first of all, continue to run the ball.

1060
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 8: Williams. Man. I thought he was.

1061
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 7: He was working, working really well for us, and I

1062
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 7: didn't understand why he wasn't in the game when it happened.

1063
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 7: But I understand. You got to give guys break. Continue

1064
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 7: to let Dak do what he's doing. Jeans, spread the

1065
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 7: bottle around in defensive wise we get a little more pressure.

1066
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 8: I think we can get a little more pressure. I

1067
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 8: love the way we stopped to run.

1068
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 7: I love the way we competed, competed as a whole

1069
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 7: and so if we can continue to do that, man,

1070
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 7: it's something to build on.

1071
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 9: Don't think you gonna show up on the Giants. They

1072
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 9: got a defense man that's waiting to crush folks. To

1073
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 9: be competitive, no mistakes offensive lyne play your best.

1074
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: Sexy deck is not joking.

1075
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, win the turnover battle.

1076
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 10: No team in the NFL has had a worse turnover

1077
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 10: to touchdown ratio in the NFL since it started twenty

1078
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 10: twenty three. Giants are twenty seven touchdowns, twenty seven interceptions.

1079
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 6: Interceptions. That's not even counting fusboards.

1080
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 10: Keep that in mind going into this week, because if

1081
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 10: you can turn them over a couple of times, then

1082
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 10: all of a sudden, you're gonna win that football game.

1083
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 3: That is kyleie Owmens from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We've had,

1084
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 3: of course Nate Newton with us all and thank you

1085
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 3: to our special guests this evening for the Cowboys safety Davis,

1086
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 3: it was great having you all. The best have Bishop Dune,

1087
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Speaker 3: and we appreciate.

1088
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Speaker 8: You joining us. Appreciation many.

1089
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Speaker 3: We will be back again next week for the SLBBC

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Speaker 3: Cowboys Cross Talks.

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