WEBVTT - Harry Houdini: A Ghost Story

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<v Speaker 1>Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>story about a ghost, a ghost story, a ghost who

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<v Speaker 1>was full of shit, a ghost, too many say represented

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest illusionist of all time, escape artist Harry Houdini.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also a story about the occult, about magic,

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<v Speaker 1>about fame and grief, and about a mansion where great

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<v Speaker 1>music was made. Unlike that music I played for you

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of the show. That wasn't great music.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a preset loop for my melotron called Laurels

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<v Speaker 1>Blues MK. Two. I played you that loop because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't afford the rights to I Adore Mia Moore by

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<v Speaker 1>Color Me Bad? And why would I play you that

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<v Speaker 1>specific slice of heart shaped creola cheese? Could I afford it?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that was the number one song in America. On

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<v Speaker 1>September twenty fourth, nineteen ninety one, and that was the

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<v Speaker 1>day of the Red Hot Chili Peppers released the album Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magic,

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<v Speaker 1>further stoking the myth of Harry Hoddin's ghost. On this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>the Occult, Fame, Grief, the Chili Peppers, and the Ghost

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<v Speaker 1>of Harry Houdini. I'm Jake Brennan. In this his disgraceland.

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<v Speaker 1>John Fruchante, guitarist for the Red Hot Chili Peppers, felt

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<v Speaker 1>the hairs on the back of his neck stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>He was staring at a missing panel on the ceiling,

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<v Speaker 1>watching the darkness inside stare back at him. He heard

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<v Speaker 1>the sounds again, strange noises, voices, and then a disembodied

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<v Speaker 1>scream somewhere between pleasure and pain. John thought about what

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<v Speaker 1>his friend and bandmate, Chili Peppers bass player Flee had

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<v Speaker 1>told him the other day. That he saw a lady

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<v Speaker 1>dressed in black walking around this place, but not just

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<v Speaker 1>any lady. She was there, and also she wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>She was translucent, a ghost. John Fruchante wasn't sure what

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<v Speaker 1>he expected from this rehab mansion in the Laurel Canyon

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood of Los Angeles, but it wasn't this. For decades,

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<v Speaker 1>Laurel Canyon, nestled up in the hills between Hollywood and

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<v Speaker 1>the San Fernando Valley, have been a creative sanctuary for

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<v Speaker 1>artists and musicians. In the nineteen sixties, it was ground

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<v Speaker 1>zero for the counterculture movement. Home to Mama Cass, Frank Zappa,

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<v Speaker 1>the Birds in Buffalo, Springfield It's where Graham Nash and

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<v Speaker 1>Joni Mitchell fell in love and then dropped out of love.

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<v Speaker 1>It's where John Lennon dropped acid for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>while the actor Peter Fonda told him what it was

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<v Speaker 1>like to be dead. Okay, that last one technically happened

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<v Speaker 1>in Bennett at Canyon, I think, but it's like right

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<v Speaker 1>next door, so you know, close enough. And now, in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety one, roughly a quarter century after the Summer

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<v Speaker 1>of Love, John Fruchianta and the Red Hot Chili Peppers

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<v Speaker 1>found themselves carrying on that rich tradition, living in a

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<v Speaker 1>four bedroom house and Laurel Canyon, specifically on Laurel Canyon Boulevard,

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<v Speaker 1>which was referred to aptly and quite simply as the Mansion.

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<v Speaker 1>Along with their producer Rick Rubin an engineer Brendan O'Brien,

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<v Speaker 1>the band had installed a makeshift studio inside the mansion

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<v Speaker 1>so that they could record their fifth studio album there.

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<v Speaker 1>That album, Blood Sugar Sex Magic, would transform the group

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<v Speaker 1>from freaky stylely La Seinsters into one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>rock bands on the planet. But more on that in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. The idea was that the Chili Peppers would

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<v Speaker 1>live and work in the same space for the duration

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<v Speaker 1>of the album's recording, thus isolating themselves from the influence

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<v Speaker 1>of the outside world while also tapping into their deep

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<v Speaker 1>musical brotherhood. Or, as the band's lead singer Anthony Keita

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<v Speaker 1>so poetically put it, by not recording in a traditional studio,

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<v Speaker 1>they avoided the quote anal retentive vibrations of the sterilicity

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<v Speaker 1>involved with that sort of courting environment unquote. But drummer

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<v Speaker 1>Chad Smith, the odd man out in the Chili Peppers

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<v Speaker 1>in more ways than one, didn't want to spend every

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<v Speaker 1>night in the mansion with the other guys. He just

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<v Speaker 1>met the girl that he was pretty sure he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to marry one day at after hours hanging with

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<v Speaker 1>these dudes. The last thing he wanted to do was

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with them some more, go put socks on

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<v Speaker 1>their dicks or whatever it was they were doing, and

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<v Speaker 1>not when he had a lady waiting for him back home. Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>the mansion was creepy as fuck. Weird shit happened there

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. But this being the Red Hot Chili Peppers,

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<v Speaker 1>the same band that was currently laying down new tunes

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<v Speaker 1>with titles like Suck My Kiss, and Sir Psycho sexy.

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<v Speaker 1>The supernatural vibe of the place quickly took a turn

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<v Speaker 1>from creepy to horny. John was the first one to

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<v Speaker 1>hear it, the sounds of a woman getting laid in

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<v Speaker 1>one of the other rooms. It sounded so real, but

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<v Speaker 1>just like the trapdoor in the ceiling, John couldn't see anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't matter. The moaning, the panting, the shrieking climaxes,

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't be ignored. Up to that point, John had

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<v Speaker 1>focused solely on the music he was making with the band,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had a tight deadline, a deadline that Warner

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<v Speaker 1>Brothers Records was holding firm. But he just couldn't hold

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<v Speaker 1>out any longer. He spent the next night in that room,

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<v Speaker 1>turned on by all that weird ghost sex, a room

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<v Speaker 1>in which, as he later told Interview Magazine, he furiously masturbated. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>John and the others were curious as to who or

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<v Speaker 1>what these spirits were, so they called in a team

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<v Speaker 1>of paranormal experts to investigate, or should I say so

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<v Speaker 1>called paranormal experts, Because after a few visits in which

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<v Speaker 1>the investigators seemed to become possessed by whatever was in

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<v Speaker 1>the house, it became apparent that they were simply trying

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<v Speaker 1>to scare the band in order to make a quick buck.

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<v Speaker 1>Cut to a few months later, and the Red Hot

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<v Speaker 1>Chili Peppers were the ones making the Bucks. Big Bucks,

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<v Speaker 1>released in September of nineteen ninety one, and led by

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<v Speaker 1>the tremendous success of the ballad Under the Bridge, Blood Sugar,

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<v Speaker 1>Sex Magic made the band megastars. And while that album

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<v Speaker 1>was making its way up the charts, and John, Anthony, Flee,

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<v Speaker 1>and Chad all returned to their respective homes in the

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<v Speaker 1>Greater Los Angeles area. Back on Laurel Canyon Boulevard, ghosts

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<v Speaker 1>continued to haunt the living, and just because a team

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<v Speaker 1>paranormal investigators tried to take the Chili Peppers for a ride,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't mean that the spirits inside the place weren't real.

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<v Speaker 1>Years later, after Rick Rubin purchased the mansion at two

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<v Speaker 1>four five one Laurel Cannon Boulevard and continued to use

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<v Speaker 1>it as an unorthodox studio, the band Slip Knot had

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<v Speaker 1>their own creepy encounter with an apparition while recording there,

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<v Speaker 1>this time the ghost of a Man in the tuxedo.

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<v Speaker 1>The legend of Rick Rubin's Haunted Mansion grew partly because

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<v Speaker 1>it was commonly being referred to as the Houdini Mansion,

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<v Speaker 1>named for the iconic illusionist and escape artist Harry Houdini,

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<v Speaker 1>who died back in nineteen twenty six. While calling Rick's

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<v Speaker 1>Place the Houdini Mansion is something of a misnomer because

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<v Speaker 1>there is no evidence that Houdini ever lived at two

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<v Speaker 1>four five one Laurel Canyon Boulevard. Now just down the

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<v Speaker 1>road Apiece, there's another mansion, this one at two four

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<v Speaker 1>zero zero Laurel Canyon Boulevard, as well as its smaller

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<v Speaker 1>guesthouse across the street, number two four three five, and

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<v Speaker 1>there is some evidence that Harry Houdini and his wife

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<v Speaker 1>Bess may in fact have resided at one or both

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<v Speaker 1>of these addresses when Houdini was in town to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of movies near the end of the silent

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<v Speaker 1>film era, and it was in this exact area, the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hundred block of Laurel Canyon, that a small

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<v Speaker 1>but devoted group of people gathered every year On Halloween night,

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<v Speaker 1>October thirty first, the anniversary of Harry Houdini's death, They

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<v Speaker 1>gathered to perform an annual ritual, and they performed this

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<v Speaker 1>ritual in nineteen thirty six and nineteen fifty six, even

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<v Speaker 1>as late as nineteen ninety one, at the moment that blood, sugar,

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<v Speaker 1>sex magic was being blasted from car windows cruising down

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<v Speaker 1>nearby Hollywood Boulevard. This ritual was conducted under the belief

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<v Speaker 1>that Harry Houdini, the greatest escape artist of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>had saved his best trick for last, that he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to find a way to escape from the great beyond,

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<v Speaker 1>to tear the fabric between this world and the next,

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<v Speaker 1>and furthermore, that this group of true believers would be

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<v Speaker 1>his guide as he made his unprecedented exit from the

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<v Speaker 1>suite hereafter carrying out the ritual, did so hidden amongst

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<v Speaker 1>laurel canyons, flora and fauna, lit only by candlelight, emboldened

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<v Speaker 1>not by blood or sugar or sex, but by magic,

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<v Speaker 1>black magic, reaching into the dust of the past, peering

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<v Speaker 1>through the veils of time, reality, and reason to do

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<v Speaker 1>the impossible, to wake up a dead man and bring.

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<v Speaker 2>Him back to life.

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<v Speaker 1>What is magic? The Mirriam Webster Dictionary describes it as

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<v Speaker 1>quote the use of means such as charms or spells

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<v Speaker 1>believed to have supernatural power over natural forces. That's the quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Page and David Bowie's favorite occultist, Alistair Crowley, define

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<v Speaker 1>magic as the science and art of causing change to

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<v Speaker 1>occur in conformity with will. While the yacht rock band

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<v Speaker 1>America once insisted in the top ten single that you

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<v Speaker 1>can do magic, many of you out there probably think

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<v Speaker 1>that in reality, magic is a bunch of bullshit, And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, you're not wrong. Stage magic, magic for entertainment,

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<v Speaker 1>all that pick a card, any card, rabit out of

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<v Speaker 1>a hat. Stuff. Yeah, that's total bullshit, bullshit by design.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not magic. I'm putting air quotes around that word,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, so much as it is sleight of hand,

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<v Speaker 1>smoke and mirrors, misdirection. You know this though, but seeing

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<v Speaker 1>as you also know, is believing and getting you to

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<v Speaker 1>believe in something um believable is the whole game when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to being a magician. Harry Houdini, for one,

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<v Speaker 1>understood this better than most. This is why he took

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<v Speaker 1>the breaking out of handcuffs. Not only was his mouth

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<v Speaker 1>tape shut, but completely naked, so that he theoretically had

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere to hide a key, and if you were alive

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<v Speaker 1>way back at the turn of the twentieth century and

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<v Speaker 1>saw Houdini do the impossible and only his birthday suit.

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<v Speaker 1>He did so knowing the old story about how when

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<v Speaker 1>he was barely old enough to walk, he was already

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<v Speaker 1>picking the locks of his mother's treat box where she

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<v Speaker 1>kept her homemade apple cake. My point, you went into

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<v Speaker 1>the experience already believing that there was something special about

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<v Speaker 1>the guy, the Harry Houdini we all think of now

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four, the illusionists who slipped out of

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<v Speaker 1>straight jackets, who cheated death while submerged upside down in

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<v Speaker 1>what he called the water torture chamber. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>persona created in a large part by Houdini's very real limitations.

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<v Speaker 1>Ask any magician then and now, and they'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Houdini was a shitty magic man. What he was

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<v Speaker 1>good at was escaping from situations that John Q. Public

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<v Speaker 1>could never manage to escape from. That's how Houdini's legend

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<v Speaker 1>was made. He was the world's first escape artist. And

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<v Speaker 1>not only was he the first, more importantly, he was

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<v Speaker 1>the best. At least that's how he promoted himself Houdini

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<v Speaker 1>was aggressive when it came to self promotion, and he

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<v Speaker 1>took no prisoners. You get in his way, you steal

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<v Speaker 1>his thunder, you attempt to rewrite his story, you should

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<v Speaker 1>prepare to be destroyed. Even the great magician from whom

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<v Speaker 1>Houdini took a stage name, Jean Eugene Robert Houdin, eventually

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<v Speaker 1>found himself and his disciples crosshairs at five five and

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<v Speaker 1>all muscle. The man formerly known as Eric Weiss, a

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<v Speaker 1>native of Budapest, even though he'd have you believe he

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<v Speaker 1>was born in Appleton, Wisconsin. Harry Houdini like the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>of showmen and the toughest of bullies. Anyone who listened

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<v Speaker 1>to prove him wrong. Bring him us at a cuffs

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<v Speaker 1>and he'd break free. Lock him in a prison cell

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<v Speaker 1>and he'd bust out. But Houdini was no superman. He

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't an alien from another planet. He was only human.

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<v Speaker 1>The means and methods of his particular brand of illusion

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<v Speaker 1>were real, and thus the one thing that really got

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<v Speaker 1>Houdini's goat was when someone tried to undermine all his

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<v Speaker 1>hard work, his real work, by giving credit to magic.

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<v Speaker 1>Spiritualists were having their moment at this time in history,

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<v Speaker 1>the early nineteen hundreds. Now, I'll think of a spiritualist

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<v Speaker 1>like a medium, someone who claims they can communicate with

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<v Speaker 1>the dead. In Houdini's eyes, spiritualists were like those guys

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<v Speaker 1>hired to investigate the ghosts who convinced John Fruchiante to

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<v Speaker 1>rub one out in a haunted mansion, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>a cheap parlor trick, a hoax. Houdini had more respect

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<v Speaker 1>for the common criminal, the person who was openly cheating you.

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<v Speaker 1>We know because he wrote and published a book called

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<v Speaker 1>The Right Way to Do Wrong, which, besides being a

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<v Speaker 1>great title, was all about how to commit crimes and

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<v Speaker 1>actually get away with them. But again, Harry Houdini was

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<v Speaker 1>only human, and even he could be convinced to give

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<v Speaker 1>the whole spiritualism thing a try, especially when his beloved mother,

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<v Speaker 1>Cecilia died of a stroke in nineteen thirteen at the

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<v Speaker 1>age of seventy two. Cecilia was Houdini's rock. Some even

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<v Speaker 1>said she was the motivation behind his career, that the

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<v Speaker 1>reason he worked as hard as he did was because

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<v Speaker 1>he once promised his father that he Houdini would take

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<v Speaker 1>care of his mother till her dying day, and now

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<v Speaker 1>that day had arrived, and Houdini, pained and grieving, would

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<v Speaker 1>do anything to speak with her again. So years later,

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<v Speaker 1>when his good friend, the writer Sir Arthur Conan Doyle,

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<v Speaker 1>creator of Sherlock Holmes, along with Doyle's wife Lady, invited

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<v Speaker 1>Houdini and his wife Bess to a seance. Houdini took

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<v Speaker 1>the bait the Doyles, like many at the time bodily

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<v Speaker 1>stock and spiritualism. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle hoped that by

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<v Speaker 1>performing the seance, by contacting Houdini's dead mother, he could

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<v Speaker 1>bring some solace to his friend in the time of

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<v Speaker 1>great need. Let's set the scene. The room is dark,

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<v Speaker 1>the blinds are drawn. The faint sound of ocean waves

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<v Speaker 1>gently lapping a nearby beach here carried on the wind

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<v Speaker 1>through an open window. Candle flames flicker on a table

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<v Speaker 1>in the center of the room, and they toss shadows

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<v Speaker 1>on the wall at one end of the table, the

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<v Speaker 1>Houdinis at the other end, The Doyles. Sir Arthur Conan

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<v Speaker 1>Doyle hung his head and Harry Houdini followed his friend's

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<v Speaker 1>lead and did the same. The Lady Doyle began to speak, Cecilia,

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<v Speaker 1>Cecilia Weiss, are you here? This was the same question

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<v Speaker 1>Houdini himself had been asking for years now, Mama, Mama,

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<v Speaker 1>are you here? He sought out his dead mother in dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>He often startled awake in a cold sweat, reaching out

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<v Speaker 1>for her, but she was never there when he called.

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<v Speaker 1>She was always just out of reach. Tonight, however, when

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<v Speaker 1>Lady Doyle asked that question, Cecilia, are you here tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>The question was answered by three loud knocks on the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Every muscle in Houdini's body tensed up, his throat clenched,

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<v Speaker 1>The flames of the candles on the table flapped wildly,

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<v Speaker 1>as if something had just passed through them. Was his

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<v Speaker 1>mother really here in this room with him? Right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Houdini, the world's greatest skeptic, could feel the impossible happening.

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<v Speaker 1>He was starting to believe. Suddenly, Lady Doyle picked up

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<v Speaker 1>a pen from the table in front of her and

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<v Speaker 1>began writing on sheets of paper. She wrote fast, and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that she wasn't even looking at what she was writing,

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<v Speaker 1>auto writing they called it psychography, allowing a spirit to

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<v Speaker 1>miss manipulate your hand and write for you. Houdini knew

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<v Speaker 1>this to be one of the buzzwords around spiritualism, and

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<v Speaker 1>now he was watching it happen in the flesh. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the time Lady Doyle had finished, she had written

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<v Speaker 1>on fifteen pieces of paper, all of it a long,

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<v Speaker 1>loving message to Houdini from his deceased mother, or so

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<v Speaker 1>the Doyle said. The papers were handed over to Houdini

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<v Speaker 1>and he began to read, but not before he noticed

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<v Speaker 1>what Lady Doyle had drawn at the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>first page across odd, he thought, seeing as his family

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<v Speaker 1>was not Christian but Jewish. And then as he began

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<v Speaker 1>to read in earnest he was struck by how the

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<v Speaker 1>words were written in English, not in German, which was

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<v Speaker 1>the only language his mother spoke. That was all the

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<v Speaker 1>proof he needed. He didn't even need to know that

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<v Speaker 1>the three knocks on the table at the start of

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<v Speaker 1>the seance had actually been made by Lady Doyle herself,

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<v Speaker 1>not by a spirit. Harry Houdini had been hoodwinked by

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<v Speaker 1>a friend. No less, he'd been made to look like

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<v Speaker 1>a do and Houdini would not be made to look

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<v Speaker 1>like a doe. The seance ruined Houdini and Doyle's friendship forever.

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<v Speaker 1>It also sent Houdini on a crusade against spiritualism. He

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<v Speaker 1>publicly took on bogus mediums who were conning people out

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<v Speaker 1>of their money. He testified before Congress and hopes that

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<v Speaker 1>he could single handedly outlaw seances altogether. They were bad

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<v Speaker 1>for Houdini's image. They were bad for business, and around

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<v Speaker 1>this time, the nineteen tents the nineteen twenties, business was

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<v Speaker 1>very good for the world's pre eminent escape artist. Harry

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<v Speaker 1>Houdini was one of the most famous people on the planet,

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<v Speaker 1>as big as Babe Ruth or Charlie Chaplin. Chaplin was

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<v Speaker 1>a master of the moving picture. Movies dazzled American audiences,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were their own kind of magic. For Harry Houdini.

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<v Speaker 1>Cinema was another illusion, another conduit from which to saturate

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<v Speaker 1>the market with his brand, which is why in nineteen nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Houdini and his wife Bess pulled up stakes from

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<v Speaker 1>their home in New York City and went out west

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<v Speaker 1>to Los Angeles, so that the world's greatest escape artists

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<v Speaker 1>could become a big movie star. Instead, he became something else, immortal.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back after this We're, We're, We're. Contrary

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<v Speaker 1>to popular belief, Harry and Bess Houdini never owned the

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<v Speaker 1>mansion at twenty four hundred Laurel Canyon Boulevard, the one

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<v Speaker 1>just down the road from Rick Rubin's mansion, nor did

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<v Speaker 1>they own the guest house across the street. Those were

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<v Speaker 1>the property of Ralph M. Walker, a department store executive

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<v Speaker 1>who happened to be friends with the couple. Hard evidence

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<v Speaker 1>is scarce, but let's just say it is very likely

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<v Speaker 1>that Ralph Walker let the Houdinis crash in his guesthouse

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<v Speaker 1>while they were in town for Harry to shoot two movies,

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<v Speaker 1>The Grim Game and Terror Island. Rumor had it that

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<v Speaker 1>the guesthouse had an elevator that dropped you underground, where

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<v Speaker 1>you could make your way through a dark tunnel passing

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<v Speaker 1>beneath Laurel Canyon Boulevard and find yourself surfacing over at

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<v Speaker 1>the Big House, a three story, eleven bedroom, nine bathroom

0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Mediterranean style villa with a ballet room and a big

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<v Speaker 1>stage for musicians. The whole underground tunnel business fits perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>with Houdini's image a master escape artist who could secretly

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<v Speaker 1>escape from his own home and you never saw exactly

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<v Speaker 1>how he did it, how he got out of a

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<v Speaker 1>coffin six feet underground, or how he pulled off the

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<v Speaker 1>metamorphosis act, the one where he was bound with rope

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<v Speaker 1>and locked inside a trunk, only for the trunk to

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<v Speaker 1>be opened and revealed that he was no longer there

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<v Speaker 1>and instead his wife Bess was in his place, bound

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<v Speaker 1>in the very same way. Maybe fake rivets, fake screws,

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<v Speaker 1>or fake welds, and the construction of the apparatusus. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>real handcuffs were swapped of for trick handcuffs. He kept

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<v Speaker 1>audiences guessing, is the point, and he also made sure

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<v Speaker 1>they had some skin in the game by welling their challenges.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no problem he couldn't solve, and no outside

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<v Speaker 1>force he couldn't beat. You could even punch him in

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<v Speaker 1>the stomach if you wanted. He would easily absorb the

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<v Speaker 1>blow with what appeared to be prodigious strengths. Houdini couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>remember if he had actually issued that last challenge publicly

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<v Speaker 1>to be punched in the stomach, but in nineteen twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>a student at McGill University in Montreal was telling him that, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>indeed he had and Furthermore, the student wanted HOODII to

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<v Speaker 1>prove it now. Hoodini was tired. His career as a

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<v Speaker 1>movie star never took off like he expected it would,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the two movies he made, The Grim Game,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even get released. He was fifty two years old

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<v Speaker 1>and these days increasingly worn out by the physical demands

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<v Speaker 1>that his job as an illusionist required. His fight against

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<v Speaker 1>the spiritualist movement was a losing battle, not as great

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<v Speaker 1>of a loss as that of his mother, whose death

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen years earlier still weighed heavily on his mind. This

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<v Speaker 1>is all to say he wasn't operating at one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>And I haven't even mentioned the incredible pain happening in

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<v Speaker 1>his stomach, pain that he'd been experiencing for weeks but

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<v Speaker 1>had not told anyone about, not even best. But here

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<v Speaker 1>in Montreal at McGill, he was still a god, still

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<v Speaker 1>revered by an adoring public that was humbled to have

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<v Speaker 1>the world's greatest escape artist in their presence, or so

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<v Speaker 1>thought the two students currently interviewing Houdini for the school paper.

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<v Speaker 1>That interview was on hold for a moment, however, as

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<v Speaker 1>a third student entered the room and brazenly asked if

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<v Speaker 1>he could test one of Houdini's standing challenges. He wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to punch Houdini as hard as he could. Pudini paused

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<v Speaker 1>for a moment. Again, he couldn't remember actually making that

0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:51.359
<v Speaker 1>challenge to the public, but it didn't matter. He was

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<v Speaker 1>motivated not only by a promise he once made to

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<v Speaker 1>his father, but by his own iconic status, by his

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<v Speaker 1>dominance as the most incredible entertainer of the day. He

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<v Speaker 1>would defend that status and that dominance by any means necessary,

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<v Speaker 1>even if the crowd was small, like it was today.

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<v Speaker 1>So Houdini accepted the student's challenge. He began to stand

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<v Speaker 1>from where he was seated, but before he could straighten

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<v Speaker 1>his back, tense up the right muscles, and get his

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<v Speaker 1>athletic body in the proper stance for such an attack,

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<v Speaker 1>the kid came in hot with a clenched fist. Three

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<v Speaker 1>punches in quick succession to Houdini's ribs and stomach. Houdini

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<v Speaker 1>doubled over Jesus Christ. That hurt, and he could hardly

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<v Speaker 1>get his bearings before the kid swung again. He landed

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<v Speaker 1>another punch as Houdini was going down, and another, and

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<v Speaker 1>another about seven in total. Houdini's insides were in turmoil.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought his stomach hurt before, but now it was

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<v Speaker 1>on fire. Still, he couldn't actually show that he was

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<v Speaker 1>in pain, so he simply offered a tense smile to

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<v Speaker 1>the three kids in the room and politely said that'll do.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to put the whole ord ill behind him,

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<v Speaker 1>the pain, the humiliation. But later that night, while performing

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<v Speaker 1>on stage in Montreal, Houdini began to sweat. His heart

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>was pounding in his ears, and the pain in his

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<v Speaker 1>stomach was getting unbearable. After the show, he collapsed. He

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<v Speaker 1>was hot and then cold. His temperature spiked to one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and two. He took a train to Detroit for

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<v Speaker 1>his next show, and there a doctor made the diagnosis

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:29.439
<v Speaker 1>the Houdini was suffering from appendicitis. He was instructed to

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<v Speaker 1>go to a hospital for immediate surgery. Houdini declined treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>The show must go on and all that. So he

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<v Speaker 1>took the stage in Detroit without one hundred and four

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<v Speaker 1>degree fever. He collapsed twice. His eyes burned, his lips quivered.

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<v Speaker 1>He slipped in and out of consciousness. His dreams began

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<v Speaker 1>to mix with reality. He saw faces, not only the

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<v Speaker 1>faces of those standing by his bed like best, but

0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>faces from his past traveling medicine shows. Sideshow freaks, a

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese acrobat who once taught him how to swallow a

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<v Speaker 1>ball and cough it back up, the barker who gave

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<v Speaker 1>him a crash course and how to slip free from ropes.

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<v Speaker 1>The ghosts of his own mind haunting him or welcoming him.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't quite sure. He just wanted it all to stop,

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<v Speaker 1>so he finally relented and agreed to allow the doctors

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<v Speaker 1>in Detroit to remove his appendix. In the end, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't matter, the damage was already done, whether the punch

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>from that McGill student caused the appendicitis, had just made

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<v Speaker 1>it worse, or whether it even had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the appendicitis at all. Six days after that punch

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<v Speaker 1>and five days after surgery, Harry Houdini died on Halloween,

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<v Speaker 1>October thirty first, nineteen twenty six, but not before he'd

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<v Speaker 1>spoken to the attending surgeon from his hospital bed. The surgeon,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Charles Kennedy, was glad that Houdini was recovering. Hodini's

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<v Speaker 1>fever had gone down, and he was once again thinking clearly,

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:06.679
<v Speaker 1>and that clarity led to some reflection. He told the

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.479
<v Speaker 1>surgeon that he'd always wanted to be a doctor and

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:12.679
<v Speaker 1>that he regretted not doing so, and the surgeon couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe what he was hearing. Houdini was the greatest illusionist

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 1>on the planet. He was rich, he was famous, and

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 1>he brought people great joy. Wudini responded, not like he

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>was speaking to a surgeon, but like he was speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to a priest. The difference between you and me, Hudini said,

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<v Speaker 1>is that you actually do things for people. I, in

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<v Speaker 1>almost every respect, am a fake.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh thou disembodied spirits. Those of you that have grown

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 3>old in the mysterious laws of spirit Land, we greek dee.

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<v Speaker 3>We have gathered here at the appointed time. We have

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<v Speaker 3>complied with all the requirements to enable all of you

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<v Speaker 3>to make your presence known. All is in readiness. It

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<v Speaker 3>is the spirit of Houdini. We wish to contact Houdini.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you here? Are you here, Houdini, Harry, We are

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<v Speaker 3>all seekers after truth. Please manifest yourself in any way

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<v Speaker 3>possible to LEVI. Take the table, move it, lift the table,

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<v Speaker 3>move it, wrap on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Spell out a.

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<v Speaker 3>Cold Henry please please, Bugini, we are awaiting speak Heady.

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<v Speaker 1>What you've just heard is recording of a seance that

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<v Speaker 1>was conducted on the roof of the Knickerbocker Hotel in

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood almost ninety years ago on Halloween night, October thirty first,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty six. The goal of the seance was to

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<v Speaker 1>make contact with Harry Houdini on the tenth anniversary of

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>his death. It was the brainchild of Houdini's widow, Bess,

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<v Speaker 1>and a man named Edward Saint, the guy you just

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<v Speaker 1>heard in that recording. Edward Saint was a former Carnival

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<v Speaker 1>barker who became professionally and romantically involved with Bess a

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<v Speaker 1>few years after Houdini died, when she was depressed, drinking

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<v Speaker 1>and smoking way too much and throwing parties in seances

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<v Speaker 1>back at what came to be known as the Houdini Mansion.

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<v Speaker 1>Not Rick Rubin's mansion on Laurel Canyon Boulevard, but Ralph

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<v Speaker 1>Walker's three story Mediterranean style villa just down the road,

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<v Speaker 1>the one with the guest house connected by an underground tunnel.

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<v Speaker 1>Like those parties, best, Houdini's rooftop seance was strictly invitation only.

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<v Speaker 1>Three hundred people total, the CNB scene of Hollywood, captains

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<v Speaker 1>of industry, the true heads of spiritualism, all of them

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<v Speaker 1>craning their necks to get a glimpse of the dimly

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<v Speaker 1>lit table where Bess and Edward Saint went through the motions.

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<v Speaker 1>Bess claimed that she and her late husband had made

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<v Speaker 1>a pact that the first one to die would attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to contact the other from the afterlife. She further claimed

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<v Speaker 1>that they had developed an intricate code, a string of

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<v Speaker 1>words that her dead husband would communicate to her in

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<v Speaker 1>order to prove that it was really him. And in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to the code, Harry Houdini's ghosts would then unlocked

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<v Speaker 1>the pair of handcuffs resting on a table. In so

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<v Speaker 1>many words, Bess Houdini claimed that she was attempting the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest magic trick ever, bringing back the dead. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>it was total bullshit, as much bullshit as a card trick.

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<v Speaker 1>Her dead husband could have told you that it was

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<v Speaker 1>nothing more than spiritualist hoke entertainment. You could even call

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<v Speaker 1>it insurance to make sure that Harry Houdini's name and

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<v Speaker 1>legend stayed relevant in the annals of time, even as

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<v Speaker 1>time marched on. It was also the last time Best

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<v Speaker 1>led a public seance, but it wasn't the last time

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<v Speaker 1>the living tried to make contact with the ghost of

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Houdini. A few miles northwest of the Knickerbocker on

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<v Speaker 1>Laurel Canyon Boulevard, among the willow trees, sycamore, and cottonwood.

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<v Speaker 1>Year after year, on Halloween night, they gathered those who

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<v Speaker 1>believed in those who wanted to believe. They gathered when

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<v Speaker 1>Ralph Walker's mansion and guesthouse were still standing, and they

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<v Speaker 1>gathered when both properties burned to the ground in the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Fire of nineteen fifty nine. They gathered as ivy

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<v Speaker 1>began to consume the ruins, and they drew pentagrams on

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<v Speaker 1>crumbling pillars and burned candles on the remains of staircases.

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<v Speaker 1>They planted a wooden cross in the yard and draped

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<v Speaker 1>it with ceremonial beads. They sang out archaic incantations, hymns

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<v Speaker 1>to the underworld, designed to summon forth the greatest escape

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<v Speaker 1>artists who ever lived. And then there in the moonlight,

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<v Speaker 1>someone saw it. A figure, a man. He was walking

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<v Speaker 1>the grounds, dressed in a suit and a bow tie.

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<v Speaker 1>He was there and he wasn't as translucent as a

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<v Speaker 1>sliver of thinly sliced garlic. They followed closely behind, and

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<v Speaker 1>the man made no sound. It was like he was

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<v Speaker 1>walking on air. Seconds later, he disappeared into the mist.

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<v Speaker 1>He reappeared months later in Chicago, walking right into someone's bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>Then in Long Beach, took possession of a medium and

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<v Speaker 1>spoke through her mouth. Soon after that, he was seen

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<v Speaker 1>in Kansas City, in Detroit, in Montreal, and the people

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<v Speaker 1>who saw Houdini's ghost all over the country swore that

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<v Speaker 1>what they saw was real, that he really had come

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<v Speaker 1>back from the dead. But how was his sleight of

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<v Speaker 1>hand misdirection? Old fashioned bullshit? As they say, a magician

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<v Speaker 1>never reveals his tricks. To do that will be a disgrace.

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