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Speaker 1: Testlam with us. I just have to say, first and foremost,
Speaker 1: it's an honor to have you on our show. Um
Speaker 1: and officially welcome you to the Black Effect networking family.
Speaker 1: But I'm excited. I feel like we gotta Livia Pope
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you first of all for having me.
Speaker 1: It is so good for those who don't know straight
Speaker 1: shot now. Chaser is also a part of the Black
Speaker 1: Effect Podcast Network. And one of the reasons uh and
Speaker 1: I'm sure like you Flame wanted to was so excited
Speaker 1: about the Black Effect Podcast Network was the ability to
Speaker 1: network with other content curators and Uh, it started in
Speaker 1: covid and you're one of the first ones that came
Speaker 1: on with me. And because of COVID, we haven't had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to meet face to face um and really
Speaker 1: just engage. And so it's taken all of this time,
Speaker 1: you know, for us to connect. And I look forward
Speaker 1: to meet you in person. So this is this is great,
Speaker 1: a great thing that Black Effect is doing by bringing
Speaker 1: these uh diverse voices to the table. Yeah. And if
Speaker 1: if anything we need right now more than anything else,
Speaker 1: test it's unity, good God, because we are divided, separated.
Speaker 1: We were just at a political rally last week, a
Speaker 1: week before last and I, well, I am said, this
Speaker 1: is this is one time in history that he knows
Speaker 1: of that we have been This country is more divided
Speaker 1: than ever before. And it was very true. The words
Speaker 1: were so impactful. So let's dive into it. Girl, what
Speaker 1: we gotta do. We got five days away from the
Speaker 1: next election, you know, uh, you know we our brother
Speaker 1: are comment our brother, I shared brother Charlemagne. Uh God,
Speaker 1: we talked about politics daily, you know, so it changes
Speaker 1: on a daily, daily, daily basis. And for many of us,
Speaker 1: just for clarity, I'm an independent. I'm not a Democrat
Speaker 1: or a Republican. UM. I left the Democrat Party in
Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, although I do lean left on
Speaker 1: a lot of my policies, but I also do not
Speaker 1: ignore a lot of the conservative values that I was
Speaker 1: raised upon, you know, with my grandmother and my both
Speaker 1: grandparents on both sides that came through the depression and
Speaker 1: really raised you know, raised me with a lot of
Speaker 1: you know, conservative values where a lot of people, especially
Speaker 1: black voters, do agree with but not necessarily aligned with
Speaker 1: the Republican Party or where conservative ism has become. So
Speaker 1: I try to always keep a very fair and objective
Speaker 1: analysis when I'm talking about the election, and so early on.
Speaker 1: With that said, early on, so there's a couple of
Speaker 1: things that we look at. One with historical data that
Speaker 1: that we have in front of us that we actually
Speaker 1: can look at to be able to tell us what
Speaker 1: we've seen in the past. At the same time, we
Speaker 1: don't always look at what the weather was last year
Speaker 1: on this day to tell me what it's going to be.
Speaker 1: You know that the reality of what the weather is.
Speaker 1: I say that because you always want to know what
Speaker 1: is the current political environment, and so in my training
Speaker 1: is one of the first things that I talked about
Speaker 1: in my pushing line training is knowing the environment that
Speaker 1: you're in. We can even see through climate change. That
Speaker 1: right now in l A, the temperature was very different
Speaker 1: this year than what it was last year. So you
Speaker 1: always take that into account, but you still want to
Speaker 1: look at the posts, at the data that we've had
Speaker 1: throughout the years. And so data tells us that usually
Speaker 1: whoever is in control usually loses in the midterms. Um,
Speaker 1: that's just a fact. They usually lose the House, the House,
Speaker 1: and the Senate because most Americans are in patient. That
Speaker 1: is the American way, and so when things don't happen
Speaker 1: fast enough, people want to switch and they want to
Speaker 1: try something else. Just like in our relationships, we want
Speaker 1: to switch. Let me go see if the grass is
Speaker 1: green on the other side, let me go see what
Speaker 1: she working with. Let me go see what he's working with.
Speaker 1: That's just the n pai mindset of the American So
Speaker 1: with that said, I was expecting to see Democrats lose
Speaker 1: quite a bit um across the country just based on
Speaker 1: data and also based on the ineffectiveness of the Democrat
Speaker 1: Party and not only their messaging but their ability to
Speaker 1: actually push the policy that we need. And I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about just last year and two years ago. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about what we have been fighting at least aggressively
Speaker 1: since two thousand six, particularly in the state of Florida,
Speaker 1: or I did most of my politics. So when all
Speaker 1: of those things are combined and you look at what
Speaker 1: I call voter depression, which is very different than voter suppression.
Speaker 1: When you mix voter depression along with voter suppression, that
Speaker 1: you see and those two things that are combined, in
Speaker 1: addition to the party in control usually losing in midterms,
Speaker 1: I was expecting a doomsday and on next Tuesday, however,
Speaker 1: because of Row versus Wade, because of all of the
Speaker 1: recent things that we have seen outside of just uh,
Speaker 1: the abortion issue, because it's not everybody's issue, by the way,
Speaker 1: but outside of that, what we have seen, not just polls,
Speaker 1: but what we have seen is we have seen double
Speaker 1: the amount of folks coming to the polls in in
Speaker 1: person voting, not just early voting, but in person voting.
Speaker 1: If we use Georgia for an example, and usually flames
Speaker 1: m those early votes usually lean left. So what we're
Speaker 1: seeing now is possibly a motivated and engaged base in Georgia,
Speaker 1: which is the most important state. I know. We like
Speaker 1: talking about states everywhere, but using the control of power,
Speaker 1: it's really gonna come down to Georgia. And so if
Speaker 1: Georgia continues on on what we see as of yesterday,
Speaker 1: then Democrats might have a chance to retain power, very
Speaker 1: slight chance, but the chance to steal there. But what
Speaker 1: I know about Republicans is they show up on election
Speaker 1: day in droves and can easily switch this. Uh, this
Speaker 1: the results. I hear you test and I agree with
Speaker 1: some instance that you have seen it, and especially with
Speaker 1: the voting thing, because I'm not voting my future. The
Speaker 1: future looks too bleak. I need to vote my present.
Speaker 1: I need to just like you said, like as a comedian,
Speaker 1: you have to read the room. I need to see
Speaker 1: what's happening around in my world right now. What's happened
Speaker 1: in my world right now. It scares the hell out
Speaker 1: of me. But I want to ask you a question.
Speaker 1: As an independent, because independence normally don't win, do you
Speaker 1: think that that is splitting the vote? I mean, even though,
Speaker 1: like you said, you left the Democratic Party to become independent.
Speaker 1: I know some great Republicans. I thought Ryan Paul, not
Speaker 1: that son Rand Paul, but I thought Ryan Paul was
Speaker 1: a great Republican when he was running for office back
Speaker 1: in the day. The Dad because he cared about people.
Speaker 1: That is what I want people to do. I need
Speaker 1: to see people who care about American people. I don't
Speaker 1: care your color, size, stature, whatever, but I think that
Speaker 1: people are not. They're looking like we need to vote
Speaker 1: for the future. What's gonna happen in the future. The
Speaker 1: future is very, very scary, but the times that we
Speaker 1: live in is more scary because we see this. We
Speaker 1: can't see the future. So when you see it about
Speaker 1: the analytics from a year ago into what it is now,
Speaker 1: it's scary to me. Because I got teenagers that drives,
Speaker 1: you know, I know, I was so excited about my
Speaker 1: kids get to an age to where they could drive,
Speaker 1: and then on petrofraed that they might be stopped by
Speaker 1: Ira Young, ridiculous over the top angry racist cop and
Speaker 1: just because they're black and they stand up for themselves.
Speaker 1: I trained them to do that that you know, I
Speaker 1: might I might lose my kids. People are not voting
Speaker 1: and coming out and droves to me because I think
Speaker 1: the Independent Party splits the vote. I do. I think
Speaker 1: you guys know you're not gonna win and let me
Speaker 1: just be on. But I understand where you're staying. I
Speaker 1: want to stand with something too. I would love to
Speaker 1: have voted for Bertie Sanders. But if I and I
Speaker 1: thought Bertie Sanders was going to get the nomination, by
Speaker 1: the way, um, but if I don't think we're gonna
Speaker 1: win and we only have two other options, if you
Speaker 1: vote independent and you know that we only have Democrats
Speaker 1: and Republicans, that's in the forefront, don't you think that
Speaker 1: does more harm to the party than good? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: really and and that's a great position that you put
Speaker 1: out there. Me saying that I'm an independent does not
Speaker 1: mean that I am voting. I don't. I don't subscribe
Speaker 1: to voting straight party ticket on anything. Okay, yeah, my
Speaker 1: thing is about it because again I grew up in
Speaker 1: the gang banging era. So if I didn't, I didn't
Speaker 1: have to. I lived in a blood neighborhood. But let
Speaker 1: let me that. You better go ask l A about
Speaker 1: me and crishall mafia whoop. Anyway, the point is, did
Speaker 1: you put that little whoop out there as proof at me?
Speaker 1: But anyway, my point is I lived and I used
Speaker 1: that as a very real example even when I'm talking
Speaker 1: to the homies. I lived in the Paru neighborhood, but
Speaker 1: all my cousins and my boyfriends was scripts. They was
Speaker 1: my best friend at ten years old one, so when
Speaker 1: we talked about age, we're talking about going back thirty years.
Speaker 1: So for me, that reality has always been a real
Speaker 1: thing to me at a fifteen year old Now, I'm
Speaker 1: just as nervous about her driving. I'm I actually more
Speaker 1: concerned about when I was driving and when she was
Speaker 1: driving because I grew up in the height of the
Speaker 1: Game Bang era. So I wasn't just dealing with police
Speaker 1: as an issue. I was dealing with drive bys as
Speaker 1: an issue. I was dealing with inner city violence is issue.
Speaker 1: My neighborhood was the first neighborhood that had a drive
Speaker 1: by in my neighborhood. So a lot of these things
Speaker 1: to me are not new, but social media makes them
Speaker 1: more relevant and makes them more protinent. So with that said,
Speaker 1: connecting to the Gang Bang conversation, to it, I can
Speaker 1: live in a blood neighborhood and still be a cript.
Speaker 1: My best friend and I told this story on the
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. She was a great street crip. Her her
Speaker 1: brother was a rolling sixty. They were the only two
Speaker 1: crips that lived in my neighborhood. We all got along,
Speaker 1: we all had good relationship because when people don't understand
Speaker 1: his bloods and Crips worked together behind the scenes, just
Speaker 1: like Democrats and Republicans red and blue worked behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: So my affiliation or what they call being a sympathizer,
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I'm necessarily always gonna ride with one
Speaker 1: or the other. I've always with campaigns, I've always consulted
Speaker 1: Democrat candidates. I've always voted left because that were those
Speaker 1: were the candidates that were coming to my neighborhood, that
Speaker 1: were coming and and pitching themselves giving me access to them.
Speaker 1: So I voted left. I don't think and what I do,
Speaker 1: particularly what black voters, is we have to look at
Speaker 1: policy because the thing about it is if we're just saying,
Speaker 1: let's do the relate, because I know you do the
Speaker 1: night night late like late relationship talk, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: mix that in there too. If you know that every
Speaker 1: time you're gonna you can come by my house at
Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning and it don't matter. I
Speaker 1: can say all this ship, can I come here? That
Speaker 1: we do? Is it like, let's get into it? So
Speaker 1: this this is how I look at politics. If you
Speaker 1: know that every Friday night you can come by my
Speaker 1: house and get something, leave me in the west spot,
Speaker 1: you know, flam And it don't matter what I say, girl,
Speaker 1: I'm not letting him come by, girl. Please, he already
Speaker 1: know what it is. Heated and this man is only
Speaker 1: gonna look at the action. And if he knows that,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna answer that door and give him something every
Speaker 1: single time and leave me in the wet spot. It
Speaker 1: don't matter who I call after that girl next time,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be this girl. You know I don't
Speaker 1: play that. People respond by action. So the problem I've
Speaker 1: had with the Democrat Party, or at least how we
Speaker 1: look at politics, we have to be able to look
Speaker 1: at it from a lens to say, what have you
Speaker 1: done for me lately? And although I'm still riding with
Speaker 1: you like big Mama, that is still go bail your
Speaker 1: ass out of jail, but you're gonna cust you out
Speaker 1: all the way home. I told you asked what you
Speaker 1: was supposed to do. I'm still gonna ride with you,
Speaker 1: but there are some consequences behind your actions. So what
Speaker 1: I say independent it is really just with the ideology
Speaker 1: of understanding. You just can't count on me to give
Speaker 1: you some. I still rock with you, and I rock
Speaker 1: with black people because black people vote for the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1: But I do not align myself with one party of
Speaker 1: the other because I need you to court me, I
Speaker 1: need you to date me, I need you to engage
Speaker 1: with me. Let me give you real example, the GOP
Speaker 1: UH put over for coast of forty brick and mortar
Speaker 1: UH Diversity centers UH in rural areas and in the
Speaker 1: inner city in Georgia, almost forty brick and mortar over
Speaker 1: twenty of those UH centers. This had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with trying to get people to vote for a particular
Speaker 1: candidate herschel Walker whoever. It was simply just trying to
Speaker 1: explain people conservative values. They were recruiting people to understand
Speaker 1: conservative values. Over twenty of those centers. Centers were dedicated
Speaker 1: specifically to Latinos to reach Latinos. They know that if
Speaker 1: they just because what people don't understand is although Latinos,
Speaker 1: which to me is the most strategic voters of all
Speaker 1: because in California, Latino's vote left, in Florida, Latino's vote right.
Speaker 1: So they are UH recruited and engaged and courted and
Speaker 1: brought all the gifts and and and and and frank
Speaker 1: insance and all of the jewels and the promises because
Speaker 1: they know they have a possibility of losing that vote.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden himself told our own leaders, Al Sharpton, a CP,
Speaker 1: all of them at the beginning of the year. If
Speaker 1: you go get listen to the lead tapes from the
Speaker 1: meeting with the a CP. He told us, y'all better
Speaker 1: go line up with the Latinos because they are the
Speaker 1: ones that have the power. He said that to us
Speaker 1: after just telling us black people, I owe you. He's
Speaker 1: the only president that said out his mouth black people,
Speaker 1: i owe you. Barack Obama didn't even say that. So
Speaker 1: when somebody is that comfortable, and then they put over
Speaker 1: twenty centers in the Latino community, they know they don't
Speaker 1: have to win all Latinos. They just need one or
Speaker 1: two per cent to flip the whole state. When we
Speaker 1: ask Democrats, why are you not making that same investment
Speaker 1: to have the community centers. Guess what they're doing those centers.
Speaker 1: They're having family night, food night, they're doing citizenship ship training,
Speaker 1: They're doing all the things to galvanize that community. We
Speaker 1: ask Democrats, why didn't you do the same thing where
Speaker 1: we're doing radio and television. That's not enough. Why are
Speaker 1: you not engaging me, taking me out, calling me sometime
Speaker 1: reaching out to It was a guy he said, oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in town. I want to haulier at you.
Speaker 1: I did hear from from three weeks until I got
Speaker 1: in town. When I got in town, he said, oh,
Speaker 1: I thought you said you just gonna. Haven't heard from
Speaker 1: you the last three weeks. You gotta at least pretend
Speaker 1: like you know what I said, check in how you good?
Speaker 1: Everything straight? So what I'm what I'm always trying to
Speaker 1: navocate the Democrat Party to do is to recognize the
Speaker 1: yale we ride with you. Yes, we're gonna come bail
Speaker 1: you out jail, but I need you to put something
Speaker 1: on my books. And the disrespect of that, of not
Speaker 1: even feeling like they have to earn our vote is
Speaker 1: why we have continued to be taking advantage of in
Speaker 1: the party. But it don't mean I don't rock with
Speaker 1: with Democrats, because I do. I've gotten candidates elected. I
Speaker 1: just did a training in Atlanta called Push the Line
Speaker 1: nonpartisan free training. Over three people came from all over
Speaker 1: the country to learn how to be a candidate and
Speaker 1: operative or organizer. So not only do I vote for Democrats,
Speaker 1: I teach people how do go run for office if
Speaker 1: they think that their candidates are unacceptable. So that's a
Speaker 1: fine line between being an independent party. No, it's not
Speaker 1: an independent on the ticket and just this, and I'll
Speaker 1: be quiet when I say this. I work for Bernie
Speaker 1: Sanders and I am the only one that literally had
Speaker 1: a legal lawsuit against the Bernie Sanders Movement for anti
Speaker 1: black racism. So I don't give a damn who you are,
Speaker 1: including if you sign my check. If you are not
Speaker 1: for black people, I call you out. So that go
Speaker 1: for Bernard bi Biden, Obama, Trump, whoever it is. We
Speaker 1: have to have voices that say make sure that you're
Speaker 1: talking about black people and you're making the investment in
Speaker 1: black people that we deserve because you can depend on
Speaker 1: our vote TESTA let me jump in here, then, So
Speaker 1: what is the difference that you see being in the
Speaker 1: Independent Party being that you you know, stepped away from
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party for all the reasons that you just said,
Speaker 1: which are all very valid. But have you seen that
Speaker 1: you've been able to give more momentum to folks being
Speaker 1: that you're independent. It's not a party, and that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If you guys are referring to it as
Speaker 1: an independent party, it's not a party. It's an ideology.
Speaker 1: So I try to tell people there's a difference between
Speaker 1: a party and an ideology. So the perfect example is
Speaker 1: conservative is an ideology. It's how you see life. It's
Speaker 1: the lend you see it through. Your party. Who you
Speaker 1: align with is a republican. Liberal is an ideology. It's
Speaker 1: how you see life. It's the lend you see it through.
Speaker 1: But a party is democrat. There is no independent party.
Speaker 1: There's not structure for independent, there's not a platform for independent.
Speaker 1: But in order to be a democrat, let me just
Speaker 1: do a game banging analogy. In order for me to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a role in sixty, i gotta have
Speaker 1: beef with Hoover. That's a part of the party. That's
Speaker 1: a part of Here are the rules. This is what
Speaker 1: you need to do. If you're gonna be Peru, you
Speaker 1: need to have this. If you're gonna be a crip,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be neighborhood, you need to have this.
Speaker 1: But I can have the ideology, meaning the be a
Speaker 1: what they call a sympathizer or lean the crips. I
Speaker 1: can go to the functions. I can be around, I
Speaker 1: can wear blue, I can lean towards you know, I
Speaker 1: like crips better for this reason. But it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: I aligne with a party. So the biggest thing to
Speaker 1: understand is there is no independent party. People can run
Speaker 1: as an independent, but there's not a party. It is
Speaker 1: a two party system. Like Flame said, one is gonna
Speaker 1: win over the other. Independence vote, they lean one way
Speaker 1: or the other. It's not like you're going in and
Speaker 1: checking for independent. You are picking between a Democratic Republican
Speaker 1: if you're voting in a Democratic Republican primary or general election.
Speaker 1: But there are positions under that which are the most
Speaker 1: important positions like mayor city council um, like judicial branches,
Speaker 1: which is the most critical thing, that have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with partisanship. So we only make it about Democratic Republicans,
Speaker 1: then pretty much what you're saying is telling people to
Speaker 1: only pay attention to governor and and and US Senate
Speaker 1: in US Congress when the real problems that get addressed
Speaker 1: are at the city level. If you look at what
Speaker 1: California is doing. Since that's where you are flamed. When
Speaker 1: you look at the Reparations task Force that's on the
Speaker 1: city level, that has nothing to do with partisanship. That
Speaker 1: HR forty bill for reparations on the federal they haven't
Speaker 1: even put that on the table. It's actually getting done
Speaker 1: in California on the local level. So when you look
Speaker 1: at that, when you remove partisanship and you're looking for,
Speaker 1: like with Flame said, what affects me right now? You
Speaker 1: want to talk about police getting pulled over, that's your
Speaker 1: city council, that's your chief of police. The sheriff is
Speaker 1: elected most cities. Some of them are different. Some run
Speaker 1: on Democratic Republicans, but for the most part a lot
Speaker 1: of places they're not running on partisanship at all. So
Speaker 1: the Independent Converse station really just wants you to ship
Speaker 1: your mind, or at least what I try to do
Speaker 1: to ship your mind on what affects you in front
Speaker 1: of you. Flamee talked about police. That's what's the school
Speaker 1: board that's in front of you. Most school board positions
Speaker 1: don't run on party affiliation. Now you may know what
Speaker 1: that person is, you know because you can look at
Speaker 1: their policies and see who they are. But a lot
Speaker 1: of the school board positions have nothing to do with party.
Speaker 1: So if we're gonna vote on what's most impactful, that
Speaker 1: means it has nothing to do with Democratic Republican, but
Speaker 1: what best serves you in your community. Two things test
Speaker 1: and first of all, in California, we have the greatest
Speaker 1: governor of all the governors of all the Union. We
Speaker 1: have we have our great governor, and we love our governor.
Speaker 1: Here what's his name, Lauren looks Pelosi's nephews, so you
Speaker 1: know there's always you know, more points. Seems to be
Speaker 1: one of the most fair people I've ever experienced. I've
Speaker 1: never met him personally, but what he has done for
Speaker 1: the state of California, I think it's highly commendable. Secondly,
Speaker 1: when you were talking about voting locally, we have a
Speaker 1: like that girl, Alison Lewis who's down in Lakeland, Florida.
Speaker 1: She ran for city council. That's all she ever pushed
Speaker 1: on our platform was start locally. You got to start low,
Speaker 1: to put the people in and see who they are,
Speaker 1: understand them because they're going to grow now. People do
Speaker 1: change throughout time. It's hard for me to believe that
Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas was never the same Clarence Thomas that he
Speaker 1: is now. But um, she always pushes that how important
Speaker 1: it is to start locally, to vote locally, to man,
Speaker 1: have these people step up to the level that you
Speaker 1: want them to be. So I know the importance of that.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure that because you know,
Speaker 1: when you say independent, I always want to do people
Speaker 1: vote independent all the way down the ticket. But then
Speaker 1: you you you made me very well aware of that.
Speaker 1: So thank you for explaining that to me. I want
Speaker 1: to ask you, test and what do you think because
Speaker 1: you remember when we had the election for Biden a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, so many rappers and big names
Speaker 1: came out black folks and said, oh, hold your vote
Speaker 1: until we figure out what the black agenda is. What
Speaker 1: do you think the black agenda is? Before you answer,
Speaker 1: let me tell you what I think the black agenda is.
Speaker 1: I think the black agenda personal it is. What is
Speaker 1: the black agenda? To you? Do you do you want
Speaker 1: your children to be I beliegues kids and get jobs
Speaker 1: and the CEO corporation? Do you want your kids to
Speaker 1: work in a factory or do you want what? What
Speaker 1: do you want? I always have thought that that was personal.
Speaker 1: Why they try to say because I never thought one
Speaker 1: person could speak for an entire community. I could never
Speaker 1: speak for the black community totally. I can never speak
Speaker 1: for the gay community totally. I couldn't speak for all fathers.
Speaker 1: I just voiced my opinion. Sometimes people agree with it,
Speaker 1: sometimes they don't. But what do you think the black
Speaker 1: agenda is, Tess? And I'm dying to hear this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love I love the way you position, and I'll
Speaker 1: use you as an example. And you do a very
Speaker 1: good job of bringing balance to conversations. So, although you
Speaker 1: do not speak for the entire LGBT community, you have
Speaker 1: been very clear that there are people like you that
Speaker 1: do exist within that community, which means you have the
Speaker 1: ability to also critique and love and also challenge. And
Speaker 1: so when you're seeing people who are saying you, you've
Speaker 1: been very vocal about how you feel that a lot
Speaker 1: of the l GBT policies have been forced on folks. So,
Speaker 1: and people get mad at you. I follow your work,
Speaker 1: so I'm very familiar with you. You can Yeah, when
Speaker 1: people get mad at you and say, well, you can't
Speaker 1: speak for us, and you don't this and that You've
Speaker 1: always been very clear to say, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: speak for you. I'm showing you another opinion, another view.
Speaker 1: Another lens through your glass is literally a lens. And
Speaker 1: what I love about because I go, I come into
Speaker 1: your I g at night and you and just giving
Speaker 1: our love. Analogies, So when you want people to when
Speaker 1: you want, when people want to get their attention, what
Speaker 1: do they do? They type in caps? You tell people
Speaker 1: I need you to type in caps so I can
Speaker 1: see you. It's not that other people are not typing away,
Speaker 1: because I've been in there typing my ass off, not
Speaker 1: knowing that I needed to type in caps. Somebody to
Speaker 1: tell me you need to type in caps if you
Speaker 1: wanted to see you. Why am I saying that? Analogy?
Speaker 1: When you're hearing people say this is the black agenda,
Speaker 1: it's not that they're not recognizing that there are other
Speaker 1: people in the comments making decisions. They're just saying, I'm
Speaker 1: typing in caps so that you can see their reparations
Speaker 1: are important to black people. I'm typing in caps so
Speaker 1: that you can see. Maybe health reform is important to people.
Speaker 1: I'm typing in caps so you can know that all
Speaker 1: people who are part of the LGBT community are not
Speaker 1: all the same, so it's not one person speaking for another.
Speaker 1: It is just us understanding and having a maturity understand
Speaker 1: that yes, we are diverse, and they're way more voices
Speaker 1: on the other side. Like when you made the comment
Speaker 1: about you know, rappers saying we got an agenda, there
Speaker 1: were way more rappers and entertainers that we're all pushing
Speaker 1: for the Democrat Party than they were ice cubes. It's
Speaker 1: just the fact. So I tell people all the time
Speaker 1: there is no balance in the challenge and the critique.
Speaker 1: It's just not. At the Revolts summit, um, I got
Speaker 1: into a big it went viral because one of the
Speaker 1: entertainers got up and said, it seems like you're mad
Speaker 1: at entertainers because I was talking about how we need
Speaker 1: balance with entertainers, meaning entertainers need to sit down with
Speaker 1: people like me and let's get to understand. I can
Speaker 1: sing and rap, so I've entertained, I've had CDs out,
Speaker 1: I've done that too, but we have to have a
Speaker 1: conversation so that we can understand each other. Because the
Speaker 1: entertainers are very valuable with the having big um platforms
Speaker 1: to say hey, y'all come look at this. They're like
Speaker 1: to me, the people in the caps, But then as
Speaker 1: people in the comments were flame and saying, hey, let
Speaker 1: me open to my platform with you so we can
Speaker 1: have a conversation, so we can get a little bit
Speaker 1: of understanding. And if we remove ego and understanding, we
Speaker 1: both bring value to the table entertainment as well as politics.
Speaker 1: And how do we have this conversation to see that
Speaker 1: there's different opinions. We move forward now to ask your
Speaker 1: question on black agenda. I do agree politics is personal.
Speaker 1: I said this just on my podcast yesterday because I
Speaker 1: work a lot with people that push reparations. A lot
Speaker 1: of the folks in the reparations move and are very
Speaker 1: single issue voters. And that's okay, some people are very
Speaker 1: single issue voters. But I also advocate all the time
Speaker 1: that first of all, your involvement in politics should be
Speaker 1: what's personal to you, because that's what's gonna keep you
Speaker 1: up at night, that's what's gonna keep you motivated. This
Speaker 1: is the hardest calling that I've ever had. It is
Speaker 1: not a career, It is a calling, and the only
Speaker 1: thing is gonna keep you battling the principalities that you
Speaker 1: have to fight is your motivation. So it has to
Speaker 1: be something personal. And I tell my reparation as friends
Speaker 1: who get mad, Oh it's all about reparation. No, it
Speaker 1: has to be. It's enough of us, enough problems in
Speaker 1: the black community for us all to get our hands
Speaker 1: dirty and in something that's number one. We don't have
Speaker 1: to get everybody talking about the same thing. However, was
Speaker 1: personal to me. Mass incarceration. That's too personal to me
Speaker 1: because I watched an entire generation. A lot of my
Speaker 1: friends were about five teen years older than me, but
Speaker 1: I watched them get locked up behind the ninety four
Speaker 1: crime bill, all my homies that came from l A
Speaker 1: and lived in Oklahoma City. I watched first time non
Speaker 1: viting offenders, the same guys that saved my life in
Speaker 1: particularly one. I'll tell the story all the time that
Speaker 1: say my life when a dice game went bad. That's
Speaker 1: why I thought it was so ironic on what happened
Speaker 1: this week, because it made me reflect on how it
Speaker 1: was supposed to be me flame. I was supposed to
Speaker 1: be identified that same night. So I can't forget about
Speaker 1: the people that rock with me and the issues that
Speaker 1: are affected them. I've never been arrested. I've never been
Speaker 1: a prison, but I'm motivated by my friends and mass incarceration.
Speaker 1: I'm motivated by healthcare because both of my parents had
Speaker 1: inadequate health care and died as a result. But reparations
Speaker 1: are still important. So I think people need to understand
Speaker 1: that two things can be done at the same time.
Speaker 1: The black agenda is what's personal to you, But we
Speaker 1: cannot ignore the people in the cats because really what
Speaker 1: they're saying is these issues are not talked about it
Speaker 1: at all broadly, and they're conflated, and so they're just
Speaker 1: trying to bring attendance to it. I got a question, Teslin,
Speaker 1: what do you think why do you think us as
Speaker 1: black people, and that's with the gay, straight or just
Speaker 1: with differences where we see things different, ain't gonnah to
Speaker 1: do with just sexuality. Why do you think we are
Speaker 1: so afraid to come to a table, sit down like adults,
Speaker 1: and have real, open, honest conversation to fix the problems
Speaker 1: more so than just keep adding more cold to the burner.
Speaker 1: Why are we are so afraid of that? What? What?
Speaker 1: What is the fear? And I'm asking a very serious
Speaker 1: question why we can't just sit down at the roundtable,
Speaker 1: all different types from the black community, and hear each
Speaker 1: other and hear each other. Yeah, I think we do.
Speaker 1: We're doing that. Now. We have to be very careful
Speaker 1: and and you know, and I tell people this, and
Speaker 1: I give the again analogies. I love analogies and metaphors.
Speaker 1: You know, my sisters Semika and my son, they talk
Speaker 1: about accomplices. You know, we need accomplices in the game killing.
Speaker 1: Mike talks about allies. I'm a military veteran. I was
Speaker 1: an M sixty gunners, So I talk about soldiers because
Speaker 1: soldiers are very different. And I give the analogy on
Speaker 1: boys in the hood. Everybody have seen boys in the hood,
Speaker 1: and you you had when it was time for trade
Speaker 1: to get in the car and really put in work.
Speaker 1: He did all that screaming and all that holler, and
Speaker 1: he got some ass off of it. Cried, did all
Speaker 1: of that on knee long. But when it was time
Speaker 1: to put in work, when it was time to ask
Speaker 1: you to work, he said, let me out the car.
Speaker 1: His role was to go to more house and become
Speaker 1: a scholar. Excuse rolling that movie. Dough Boy was to
Speaker 1: put in work. And as a result of that lifestyle,
Speaker 1: he eventually died. I believe that people have different roles,
Speaker 1: and I don't think that we're not coming to the
Speaker 1: table and have conversations. Where I think the problem is
Speaker 1: is people are sitting around thinking that everybody needs to
Speaker 1: be at the table. I'm okay with everybody not being
Speaker 1: at the table. I tell people all the time, I'm
Speaker 1: not Harriet Tubman. I'm not coming back to get your ass.
Speaker 1: I'm a hunkle one time, and I'm gonna leave. All
Speaker 1: this is trying to save everybody and try to get
Speaker 1: everybody on board. It's a waste of time. It's a
Speaker 1: waste of time. It's been proven biblically, whether people are
Speaker 1: religion or not. Moses did not go to the Promised
Speaker 1: Land because he talked to slaves who were already free.
Speaker 1: So you're either gonna be about the going over to
Speaker 1: the land of milk and honey, like Joshua, what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I don't need us all. I just need about ten
Speaker 1: or fifteen people. I just need Gideon's army. Just give
Speaker 1: me three hundred, three hundred. That's what I was talking
Speaker 1: to my son about before this show. I said, give
Speaker 1: me a tangible number on what you think can shift
Speaker 1: the culture in hip hop. Don't say we we we
Speaker 1: we Tell me a number. If it was a hundred
Speaker 1: artists that said I want to be able to say
Speaker 1: whatever I want to say in hip hop, find me
Speaker 1: a hundred that say, no, we're gonna shift the culture,
Speaker 1: and that that one hundred can make a difference. Gideon's
Speaker 1: Army started with ten thousand, but it was three hundred
Speaker 1: that made a difference. So I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: we're afraid to do it. We're doing it now. We
Speaker 1: just have to stop thinking everybody got to be at
Speaker 1: the table. Let's just have enough dedicated to you, because
Speaker 1: that's really what it comes down. So it's only gonna
Speaker 1: be just a few that really does the work. And
Speaker 1: I agree and disagree with you, and I agree that
Speaker 1: we don't need everybody to tell But I disagree with
Speaker 1: you when you say you're not Harriet Tebman because you're
Speaker 1: in politics. You have no other choice but to save us.
Speaker 1: That's why that's true. But I'm not here, no, But
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who I am. I'm I'm Deborah from
Speaker 1: the Book of Judges where she said General Barrock that
Speaker 1: was his actual name. She said General Barrock. You're either
Speaker 1: gonna free my people or he's gonna deliver through the
Speaker 1: hands of a woman. I am. I come from the
Speaker 1: Book of Judges, a warrior, and an old testament. I
Speaker 1: use Harriet Tubman as an example because my grandmother was
Speaker 1: a bus driver, and even when she drove the bus,
Speaker 1: she told me, if your ass ain't on this bus,
Speaker 1: stop on time, you're gonna get left. And so I
Speaker 1: think it's important that people move with urgency, not always.
Speaker 1: You know, people love the favorite quote they love sharing
Speaker 1: about Harriet Tubman is you know I could have saved
Speaker 1: the thout. You know, I only say the thousand's whatever.
Speaker 1: What is it that more people knew the pe right?
Speaker 1: And so I try to push flame the mentality that
Speaker 1: you need to understand that everybody ain't gonna wait on you.
Speaker 1: You need to move with it. If I say I'm
Speaker 1: coming to the we're going to the club at seven o'clock,
Speaker 1: you're as better be ready at seven o'clock. We moved
Speaker 1: differently when we understand that ain't nobody coming back. When
Speaker 1: we understand we ain't on colored people time, you don't
Speaker 1: get an extra fifteen minutes. Perfectly. I went to to
Speaker 1: see Joda see um uh, the New Addition Tour and
Speaker 1: the New Addition Tour that just that just finished. They
Speaker 1: started on time. That was the first time I've ever
Speaker 1: been to a black concert. I'm out of getting my
Speaker 1: drink thinking I got an extra fifteen twenty minutes and
Speaker 1: I'm listening to Jodac Oh yeah, in the back. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what do they do? They started on time, So the
Speaker 1: word got around to people that were going to the
Speaker 1: concert and say, y'all better be on time because you're
Speaker 1: gonna miss Jelas, You're gonna miss Casey and Jeans, which
Speaker 1: is really who I came to see. When we understand
Speaker 1: that it's gonna start on time, we moved differently. My
Speaker 1: training that I did in Atlanta started at seven a m.
Speaker 1: And I told people, I'm not Harriet Tubman, bring your
Speaker 1: ass here in late. If you want to, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get locked out. See, they're not used to political trainers
Speaker 1: speaking of it in that way. They used to saying, Oh, everybody,
Speaker 1: come on there and come on here and get a plate,
Speaker 1: come on in. I said, no, no, no, if you're
Speaker 1: not there on time, because you this is bootcap for real.
Speaker 1: The military. The military strategic mindset is to send people away.
Speaker 1: When we do basic training, we don't try to keep people.
Speaker 1: We try to send you away because we only want
Speaker 1: the front line soldiers. So my mindset is not about
Speaker 1: getting people that don't know they're free, because if you
Speaker 1: don't know, you don't want to be free. In tooth
Speaker 1: out twenty two, you're not for me, deflame. Do you
Speaker 1: know all three people that came from all over the
Speaker 1: country beat us to the door. They were there at
Speaker 1: six fifteen in the morning because the expectation was there.
Speaker 1: That ain't nobody waiting on you. So I do think
Speaker 1: it's important that somebody go back and get slaves and
Speaker 1: talk to him and big. That's not my role. My
Speaker 1: role is to tell you when I hunked this damn horn.
Speaker 1: I'm like the rapture. One time, I'm blowing the trumpet.
Speaker 1: One time you are the coming, are you not? And
Speaker 1: I have seen that work in the way I organize.
Speaker 1: COVID made black people be on time because you know,
Speaker 1: we have broke doing COVID, Like you know, we show
Speaker 1: up late for everything, myself included. But COVID said the
Speaker 1: money tight, you better be there on time. COVID made
Speaker 1: black folk show up on time. You really look like
Speaker 1: you're about to say something. What you're about to say, Lauren,
Speaker 1: I was because we kind of talked about it. I
Speaker 1: wanted to shift a little because I'm curious to hear
Speaker 1: your views. Teslin. Um. You know, this week we lost
Speaker 1: another beloved rapper in the community take Off was shot
Speaker 1: unfortunately and was killed. Um. I think he makes number
Speaker 1: twenty two within this year. So I just wanted to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on what do you think in terms
Speaker 1: of the climate that we're living in where it just
Speaker 1: seems like violence is constantly at the forefront and ultimately,
Speaker 1: you know, we're just losing too many people at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. Yeah, you know, again, going act
Speaker 1: to my analogy, my first funeral I went to was
Speaker 1: a twelve years old. It's always been a part of
Speaker 1: my lifestyle. I think social media and it amplifies things.
Speaker 1: For example, when Rodney King, you know, got beat up
Speaker 1: people was selling We've been saying in l A, this
Speaker 1: is what happens in l A. But it took the camera,
Speaker 1: you know, to be able to show people, hey, this
Speaker 1: is the reality. When I watched the movie, when they
Speaker 1: see us and so many people were just devastated to
Speaker 1: see what happens in solitary confinement. I got so pissed
Speaker 1: because I said that, tell me, you ain't never went
Speaker 1: to go see nobody in jail, You ain't never putting
Speaker 1: no money on nobody's books. You are completely clueless on
Speaker 1: what brothers go through with solitary confinement. So, um, when
Speaker 1: things are hiden in that way, we've lost way more
Speaker 1: than twenty two black people this year, but those are
Speaker 1: the ones that were highlighted. So when things are highlighted
Speaker 1: and in social media over the top and it's back
Speaker 1: to back to back to back to back to back,
Speaker 1: it makes it seem um as if it's something new
Speaker 1: and it's not. And also where we have to be
Speaker 1: careful with, like I said a little while ago about
Speaker 1: we are coming to the table to talk. It's also
Speaker 1: important that there are plenty of non violent intervention communities
Speaker 1: all over the country that never get any light shined
Speaker 1: on them, never talked about, don't have the resources, don't
Speaker 1: have the things that they need to get to go
Speaker 1: into the community. Always talk about Sylvia. None in l
Speaker 1: A that has that's out there doing really trying to
Speaker 1: correct some of even the lifestyle she was a part
Speaker 1: of by being a Paru blood and she's over there
Speaker 1: doing it on on pennies. So nobody talks about that
Speaker 1: in the lives that she has been able to save
Speaker 1: and touch a lot of O G s that really
Speaker 1: have come back and be like, hey, I want to
Speaker 1: be a part of correcting what it is that I started.
Speaker 1: I've been talking to d O C all this week
Speaker 1: Rapper Icon DLC is like, let's put let's let's do something.
Speaker 1: I want to change the culture that I was once
Speaker 1: a part of. Talking to um last week, uh C
Speaker 1: Mac c J Mac and what he's trying to do.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of Willie D. Scar Face. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of people that's trying to do They ran
Speaker 1: for office with it D and Scarface ran for office.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of people that are trying to
Speaker 1: go on the opposite, but they don't get the attention
Speaker 1: that it comes, and so we have to be very
Speaker 1: careful of that. Black culture is number one, not talked
Speaker 1: about as if this is the only part of our culture,
Speaker 1: because it's not. There's black excellence in our culture as well.
Speaker 1: There's black academics in our culture as well. There's black
Speaker 1: talent in our culture as well. There are community activists
Speaker 1: in our culture as well. We cannot allow white supremacist
Speaker 1: talking points that sometimes even we pick up in our
Speaker 1: desire to want to change our community, and we subconsciously,
Speaker 1: unconsciously pick up those talking points to say, oh man,
Speaker 1: we just killed everybody, We just dined it. But there's
Speaker 1: crime in every community, white on white crime, Asian on
Speaker 1: Asian crime, Hispanic on Hispanic crime, and that particular loss
Speaker 1: would take off rest in peace had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with wrap. It was a dice game gone bad. And
Speaker 1: I know plenty of people that got killed at night. Again,
Speaker 1: my own personal story being at the wrong place, wrong time,
Speaker 1: was a result of a dice game. So we just
Speaker 1: I'm just very careful and trying to conflate that issue.
Speaker 1: But I do recognize and realize that that music has
Speaker 1: a lot of influence, it's on our culture. But I
Speaker 1: also realized flame, I got a fifteen year old little girl.
Speaker 1: She's going to a K pop commercial concert today. She
Speaker 1: loves K pop. Now me, I listen to ratchet music
Speaker 1: all day long. That's just not what my baby is into,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it comes down to
Speaker 1: how do you raise your children? Flame? You talk about
Speaker 1: it all the time, regardless of people have issue to
Speaker 1: take issue with you and how you present to the world.
Speaker 1: You always remind people, but what about my three babies?
Speaker 1: What about my baby is going to college? What about
Speaker 1: the positive things that they're doing. At the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you cannot dispute the receipts, And when it
Speaker 1: comes down to how we're raising our children, that is
Speaker 1: a family conversation. And I don't hold music as responsible
Speaker 1: as raising my baby girl. That really comes down to
Speaker 1: me and the example that I said and the expectations
Speaker 1: that I said. But yes, music does play influence into that.
Speaker 1: So I do I want to do a follow up
Speaker 1: to that. Then, I'm curious to get your thoughts on
Speaker 1: the fact that certain prosecutors are using rappers lyrics actually
Speaker 1: to basically prosecute these cases. Um Young Tug and Gonna
Speaker 1: as an example of that. I know recently, you know
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom, mark beloved governor. You know that's basically passed
Speaker 1: the law of saying that that was not allowed in
Speaker 1: this state. But it seems like more and more this
Speaker 1: is becoming a practice. So how do you think, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm curious to hit your thoughts on what you think
Speaker 1: about music actually being used against you know, rappers in
Speaker 1: the culture that you know in their lived experiences. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just did a segment on that and revoke news.
Speaker 1: And I believe in the First Amendment right, particularly when
Speaker 1: it comes to black people, especially when it comes to
Speaker 1: black men, because then it would be a slippery slope
Speaker 1: and it could easily go to Hey, Flame was doing
Speaker 1: a comedy set about killing somebody and how she want
Speaker 1: to kill somebody. Oh, girl, I could just if I
Speaker 1: if it was me, but I just kill knock him
Speaker 1: in the head, and then something happens and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now you were suspecting crime that you
Speaker 1: never committed. So, because this system is not set up
Speaker 1: to give us fair justice based on what we know,
Speaker 1: it is important to make sure that evidence always prevails
Speaker 1: based on somebody's you know, what they may have said
Speaker 1: in art. However, at the same time, I come from
Speaker 1: the generation where people didn't talk on phones about their
Speaker 1: dirty work. They didn't sitting right now that this social
Speaker 1: media era with these gang bangers online and YouTube and
Speaker 1: telling on themselves. Basically, if you tell her on yourself
Speaker 1: and you are putting out literally you know, I killed Jojo,
Speaker 1: and Jojo come up dead and they saw that your
Speaker 1: asked was that Joe Joe's house? On your cell phone
Speaker 1: and on the camera. Because you can track everywhere that
Speaker 1: you are and that is able, you don't have to
Speaker 1: use the rap lyric for evidence. You can use a
Speaker 1: simple fact that you was at Joe Joe's house and
Speaker 1: we see you was on the phone and we so
Speaker 1: to me, it's the evidence over anything else. But the
Speaker 1: the people are conflating the conversation between how should we
Speaker 1: change our music versus what actually works in court. So
Speaker 1: I had attorney um A Marisa y'alla, who's running for
Speaker 1: state attorney in Florida, speak on this and she was
Speaker 1: very clear about we cannot let those things conflate and
Speaker 1: all merge in the one because there's different, you know,
Speaker 1: different conversations the court of law. It should be innocent
Speaker 1: until proven guilty. This justice system has always for black
Speaker 1: people and particularly black men, has always been guilty until
Speaker 1: proven innocent. So we have to be very careful. Now
Speaker 1: we want to have the culture conversation on should we
Speaker 1: produce better music? Should we do that? Out of that
Speaker 1: that's a different conversation, and they don't believe they belong together. Tesla.
Speaker 1: And for the record, if I'm accused of busting somebody
Speaker 1: to the head, I probably did it. But but I
Speaker 1: see and I talked about this on Love Lounge, and
Speaker 1: I talked about this, and when I'm in my stand up,
Speaker 1: I do think that the music set some mood in
Speaker 1: the younger generation on a different, different demographic from my era.
Speaker 1: And let me say that, so I don't offend nobody,
Speaker 1: because well, I really don't give a fuck. Uh. I
Speaker 1: think the music says the mood Ousley Brothers, Frankie Beverly
Speaker 1: and Maze reata Franklin Glady's night. Those put you in
Speaker 1: a mood to where you wanted the whole hands, feel
Speaker 1: good about yourself, make love, make babies, what have you?
Speaker 1: Some of these new music and these kids be whatever
Speaker 1: they drugs they're using now, Uh, this trap music, it's
Speaker 1: it's the same, like it's the same. See, this is
Speaker 1: what I try to say. So so my generation of
Speaker 1: thirty five to the forty five, this ain't this is
Speaker 1: the same music. When when people saying, who are these kids,
Speaker 1: I'd say, we're ain't parents that we brought in gangst
Speaker 1: the rap, So this ain't new music to me. I
Speaker 1: am a alumni of Little Kim. I come from the
Speaker 1: lineage of Little Kim. I am a descendant of n
Speaker 1: w A, so this ain't new music to me. These
Speaker 1: are the parents that had children the average uh in
Speaker 1: the early nineties. Remember when Thanks for My Child came out,
Speaker 1: and you know they put uh Karen was a Karen
Speaker 1: White when she put that song out. There was a
Speaker 1: height and teenage pregnancy in that era. When I was
Speaker 1: sixteen in high school, both of my best friends had
Speaker 1: babies at sixteen, at sixteen, so their children now are
Speaker 1: in their late twenties. That era of the gang banging
Speaker 1: and the rap and all of that, and what I
Speaker 1: came upon. These are the children of the mothers and
Speaker 1: the parents that had them at sixteen and seventeen years old.
Speaker 1: Now does age make a difference, No, because my grandmother.
Speaker 1: If we go back and look at my grandmother, when
Speaker 1: did they start having babies eighteen nineteen twenty some even
Speaker 1: younger than that. My family in Louisiana, because they started
Speaker 1: very early and had ten twenty kids. You know, by
Speaker 1: the time there was twenty five, big, big families, So
Speaker 1: it's not always an age thing. And yes, culture does
Speaker 1: make a difference when I want to get buck with somebody, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put any forty, I'm gonna put in some
Speaker 1: gangster rap. I'm gonna putting a little kim. That was
Speaker 1: the zone that I was on. But that, to me
Speaker 1: is not a new thing. That has always been a
Speaker 1: part of our community. But again, at the same time,
Speaker 1: it really comes down to the individual kid and what
Speaker 1: they're into. My baby is a K Pop BT s.
Speaker 1: She go to every BT and we fly all over
Speaker 1: the country to go to these things. I love it.
Speaker 1: She don't listen to me the stallion I do her
Speaker 1: Mamma do. She don't listen to any of that. So
Speaker 1: she she gravitates to what she likes. And so there
Speaker 1: is still some individualism. You know that we that we
Speaker 1: must take accountability for in our in our house. There
Speaker 1: are certain things that I know you would not tolerate
Speaker 1: from your son. How do I know that because I
Speaker 1: would know that he would have never got that scholarship
Speaker 1: if you tolerated everything that he wanted to bring to you.
Speaker 1: Whether you live in l A or not, what everybody
Speaker 1: else doing in l A wasn't what your child was
Speaker 1: doing because the results show so I do think that
Speaker 1: it's a parent thing more so than and my daughter.
Speaker 1: Thank you God, because then help us walk over me.
Speaker 1: I am tougher than I am, the toughest piece of
Speaker 1: lunafoor you ever seen. Until it comes to my daughters.
Speaker 1: I don't know why they just and they take advantage
Speaker 1: of it. That is the Yeah, that's how it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be. So I would ask you, you raising a
Speaker 1: child in this error? How did he get the scholarship?
Speaker 1: You in l A. It's gang banging everywhere? How how
Speaker 1: did that have? Wasn't the music what I mean? How
Speaker 1: did that? That's a that's a good question for you.
Speaker 1: How were you able to keep him from escaping making
Speaker 1: those types of decisions? It wasn't that what he wasn't
Speaker 1: confronted with him. He grew up in the house with
Speaker 1: me and and and let me be very transparent that
Speaker 1: I have always lived in a zip code that was
Speaker 1: above my means. And when I say that, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that like I felt like I was better than
Speaker 1: anyone else. But I learned once I had children, Because
Speaker 1: before I had children, it didn't matter to me. But
Speaker 1: once I had children, I learned that the better the
Speaker 1: zip code, the better the p t A. The better
Speaker 1: the p t A, the better the school system. See,
Speaker 1: they always want to say as the teachers, p t
Speaker 1: as direct and drive the school system. So when I
Speaker 1: learned that we lived in a better zip code, because
Speaker 1: I didn't have any money, I wanted to work in
Speaker 1: the community that didn't understand me while being a part
Speaker 1: of a community that could not stand me. So I
Speaker 1: could not work, not because I wasn't talented, but the
Speaker 1: gays didn't like that I didn't dance to the beat,
Speaker 1: and the straight people didn't understand me, even though I
Speaker 1: kept showing up and showing up. So that was a
Speaker 1: real hard where is for me? Meanwhile, trying to maintain
Speaker 1: raising three kids, I'm black listening in the game community.
Speaker 1: I couldn't work in the straight community because if a
Speaker 1: male comedian would book me on the show or something,
Speaker 1: he would get ragged on and they would say, oh,
Speaker 1: you attracted to that, why you got flame on the show,
Speaker 1: You must want to sleep with flame. It was never
Speaker 1: any of that but my son to me, which is
Speaker 1: why I never did a reality show. Tesla. I've been
Speaker 1: offered three times the reality show Big Money. Even before
Speaker 1: I got with Lauren as my manager, I didn't want
Speaker 1: to sell my son out. My son and you see me,
Speaker 1: you need you know my presentation, y'all see my dress
Speaker 1: when I'm on Instagram and Facebook, how I showed to
Speaker 1: award shows or what have you. My son still respects
Speaker 1: me as his father. That was something I will not
Speaker 1: relinquish for all the money on this planet. I just
Speaker 1: won't give that up. My daughters go girls, wish you washing? Anyway.
Speaker 1: Let me just say, women, I wish you washing. They
Speaker 1: started as girls, but boys. You know, it was important
Speaker 1: for me, as a black person and in this country,
Speaker 1: for my black son to respect his black father. That
Speaker 1: was he to show him love and understanding and patience.
Speaker 1: And I always provide even when we didn't have money,
Speaker 1: even when I was blacklisted, I knew how to hustle. Oh,
Speaker 1: and there's a hustler in me, that girl in me
Speaker 1: gonna get it and then and me gonna stand for it.
Speaker 1: So you are perfect. So I and this is why,
Speaker 1: because you probably you know, I knew all your story.
Speaker 1: This is why your story is so important. As you're
Speaker 1: having these conversations, you can use because when people relate
Speaker 1: to on politics is real people's story, even the candidate.
Speaker 1: When we teach candidates how to do speeches, it's me, you, us.
Speaker 1: If you actually listen to a candidate speech, they'll start
Speaker 1: at saying, hey, I'm telling figure, Oh, I'm from here,
Speaker 1: I'm this is this. Then they'll say you, you know
Speaker 1: flame you and I relate because we both have teenage
Speaker 1: kids with and then they go to the US, MEU, US, US,
Speaker 1: you and I together we can make a difference. Pimps
Speaker 1: and pastors got the same format. By the way, would
Speaker 1: you like to hear it? I've seen it. I watched it,
Speaker 1: and show you when the pastor got robbed and then
Speaker 1: show this closet with all the Ostrich is right, But
Speaker 1: I'm talking about literally the speech for man. I talked
Speaker 1: about this on Ghetto Boys, Me, you, US, pastor me
Speaker 1: the Lord, send me the Lord. You know I'm I'm
Speaker 1: the I'm the the chosen one. You know, God ordained me.
Speaker 1: Then you you know when you in church and he say,
Speaker 1: I know I'm talking to somebody in here, I know
Speaker 1: I'm touching on somebody here, and you'll be saying there
Speaker 1: and it seems like you're talking to me. That's the
Speaker 1: you part, and then the US. All I need is
Speaker 1: two of us to touch and agree, and let's get
Speaker 1: this building fund and let's get this house. Me you US.
Speaker 1: I'm giving you the literally the speech formath that they use.
Speaker 1: Pimps do the same thing. Me. I'm a pimp. Look
Speaker 1: at me. Look at my clothes. I'm looking good. Don't
Speaker 1: you want to be with somebody like me? Do you
Speaker 1: go to the to the prostitute. You're not doing as
Speaker 1: well as you could be. If you was with me,
Speaker 1: we'd beat out of out the US. ME and you together,
Speaker 1: we can take over the world. The me you US
Speaker 1: speech format works with engagement, and it works the same
Speaker 1: way in politics. So what I like about your story
Speaker 1: is not so much of as of saying what tells
Speaker 1: on the music sound good? I like your story of
Speaker 1: the MEU US Tell me about you? How were you
Speaker 1: able to do it? Because when you tell your story
Speaker 1: that no, I was able to deal with all these
Speaker 1: different levels of obstacles. I made the personal choice and
Speaker 1: the personal decision to live above my means in the
Speaker 1: right neighborhood for the right reasons, to raise my child,
Speaker 1: and I refused to sell my soul. I got that
Speaker 1: same story. We don't have to be of the same gender,
Speaker 1: we don't have to have the same lifestyle. But I
Speaker 1: got the same story. I was divorced. I have my
Speaker 1: child and wedlock. We got divorced, and I made the
Speaker 1: decision to not shake my ass or sell my ass
Speaker 1: or sell my soul, to be able to take care
Speaker 1: of my child, to make the decisions so she can
Speaker 1: be the example that I want her to be, like
Speaker 1: my mama was and my mama mama was. So when
Speaker 1: it comes down to and we really want to talk
Speaker 1: about how to move the needle in politics, it comes
Speaker 1: down to sharing our personal stories because can nobody challenge
Speaker 1: you on that story. People can challenge you on your
Speaker 1: position on Nancy or the governor, or this and this
Speaker 1: and that, but people can't challenge you on how were
Speaker 1: you able to do it? How did you go above
Speaker 1: and beyond? What decisions did you make. I've been on
Speaker 1: Fox News on and off for six years. They've offered
Speaker 1: me to bag multiple times. Before Candice Owns was Candice Owns.
Speaker 1: They offered me the bag. I've never got a dime
Speaker 1: from Fox News. I refused to sell my soul even
Speaker 1: when I needed the money, Nobody put me in the game. Now,
Speaker 1: my mama, my daddy, they're both from the ground. Nobody
Speaker 1: was in politics, nobody's in law, nobody in my family.
Speaker 1: I got this ship out the hustle and the muscle.
Speaker 1: So when I give that story to people, you can't
Speaker 1: challenge it. And that's how we make the change within
Speaker 1: our community. That's how I know your whole story. I
Speaker 1: know your story because I am intrigued by your story
Speaker 1: and people are moved by your story. Maybe you should
Speaker 1: run for office. I'm sending you a girl. I could
Speaker 1: be there and look at I say that. I say,
Speaker 1: whatever state it is money, because that could be the
Speaker 1: I could be the winner and the first lady at
Speaker 1: the same time. I could be I'm gonna do all
Speaker 1: this hechy week. And Lauren always caused me an anomaly
Speaker 1: because Lauren knows the backlash because Long is my manager.
Speaker 1: She knows the cancelations that I get because I speak
Speaker 1: how I feel, and I always say speaking for numb
Speaker 1: one community. I love Dr Marke Luther King and what
Speaker 1: he was as a freedom fighters civil rights leader, but
Speaker 1: I was never with his tactics because if you put
Speaker 1: your hands on me. My natural reaction is to do
Speaker 1: whatever I need to do to get you up oft
Speaker 1: from me, and the damn shall ain't walking away. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's why I hate when the community boxes me up.
Speaker 1: But thank you tesling for that, because I'm not speaking
Speaker 1: to try to ruffle feathers or I'm not speaking to
Speaker 1: try to get likes or dislikes. This is who I am,
Speaker 1: this is how I feel, and I don't change me.
Speaker 1: I want, I don't change me. This is it. But
Speaker 1: you know, and although you don't speak for one community,
Speaker 1: and I know you have to say that all the
Speaker 1: time because I have to say it too, so I
Speaker 1: understand why you're saying it. At the same time, they
Speaker 1: can't take away with community. You're a part of you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So yeah, no, you ain't speaking
Speaker 1: more community, but you ain't gonna like, you can't erase
Speaker 1: who I am and how I present. So while when
Speaker 1: somebody said, well, you don't speak for the black community, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't speak for the black community, but god damn it,
Speaker 1: I'm black. Though you ain't gonna make me question like
Speaker 1: who I am. I'm just one part of it. And
Speaker 1: so the story it is unique, and that's why people
Speaker 1: gravitate to you. I didn't have to do research on you.
Speaker 1: I've seen every show that you've done. I've been over
Speaker 1: your lunch and you checked me one time I came
Speaker 1: your Loveland. I'm like, oh, let me shut up in
Speaker 1: flame check my ass. But because I said, you wanna
Speaker 1: know why you checked, I said one day, I said,
Speaker 1: you were talking about Corey hawk them and I said
Speaker 1: he was a mainstream and he was like, he is mainstream.
Speaker 1: I don't care what you say. And I think you
Speaker 1: thought I was saying. I wasn't saying that he wasn't
Speaker 1: um accepted by the mainstream. I was saying that the
Speaker 1: positions he takes are so I'm standing on this regardless
Speaker 1: of what everybody else is saying that that mainstream quote
Speaker 1: unquote you know what they consider mainstream may not accept
Speaker 1: his words. And that following week I was gonna hit
Speaker 1: you up in the inbox, but I let it alone.
Speaker 1: But that following week was when Corey checked um earthquake
Speaker 1: and then he did, yeah did you see it? And
Speaker 1: he and Corey and Corey himself said I ain't like
Speaker 1: the rest of them. I'm not like mainstream. I don't
Speaker 1: do what they do. And that's what I meant, you know,
Speaker 1: when I was saying that the lovely you know, when
Speaker 1: I'm on a lovely okay, but I said, yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 1: But what I say, I respect it though I respect
Speaker 1: people that it's about consistency. With me. We don't all
Speaker 1: have to move the same way, but be consistent. And
Speaker 1: one thing for sure you've been is consistent. And if
Speaker 1: that means, hey, I'm gonna check tessla, hey check you,
Speaker 1: you ain't discriminating the same way. Man, I'm straight shot, no, Chase,
Speaker 1: I don't discriminate on nothing. It is. And you know
Speaker 1: what I admire the most about strong women, especially strong
Speaker 1: Black women or strong African American women, is that I
Speaker 1: see it. You know, I am and I say this
Speaker 1: all the time. I want I emulate black women. I
Speaker 1: emulate a strong black woman when I'm playing my brow
Speaker 1: when I'm on I feel like the most powerful trans
Speaker 1: woman king it ever is because I feel strong and
Speaker 1: I feel encouraged and powerful because look at the examples,
Speaker 1: you know, and I say this, and I've said this before.
Speaker 1: Two things happened or two years ago to say, different people,
Speaker 1: both black people Abraham's longs to Georgia. They cheated her
Speaker 1: and Gilliam lost in Florida. They key to him. The
Speaker 1: difference was the strong black woman went to the battlefield,
Speaker 1: she went right to work, went right toward as a
Speaker 1: general and flip Georgia blue. The other guy went to
Speaker 1: the hotel room and got caught with his pants down. Literally.
Speaker 1: That don't change Andrew Gilliam's politics. I still like his politics.
Speaker 1: I just hate that where he went in his mind emotionally,
Speaker 1: because they love to say women ain't strong. Save Stacy
Speaker 1: Avon showed us a tank and and Gilliam showed us
Speaker 1: a weekly and can I give you some breaking news
Speaker 1: and down This is a shameless plug. I got a
Speaker 1: fiction book online called Katy's Letter on Amazon. I've been
Speaker 1: writing about these politicians. They've been putting their pants down.
Speaker 1: He got caught up. Now, that might be what he'd
Speaker 1: like to say. But in two thousand, Florida's my stomping ground.
Speaker 1: In my book Katy's Litter, it talks about mental illness.
Speaker 1: It's it's a call girl's service where she lobbying. Actually
Speaker 1: a person that was the governor also was having sex
Speaker 1: and buying dope. And all of that. That is a
Speaker 1: very normal thing in politics. And again that Andrew could
Speaker 1: have been experien is when he was experiencing. But I
Speaker 1: just want to put on the record. I put two
Speaker 1: books out about that in two thousand and four. Teams
Speaker 1: before all this happened, they've been doing this ship in
Speaker 1: the in the hotel room. This was just a matter
Speaker 1: of getting caught. And it always, like I said, it
Speaker 1: comes down to people that you know that really just
Speaker 1: do the work. I want to say this, and I
Speaker 1: know I'm sure y'all run out of time. I want
Speaker 1: to piggyback on when you said, you know, sitting at
Speaker 1: the table and having these conversations, and why this conversation
Speaker 1: was so important to me. I don't want to say
Speaker 1: the person's name, but there was somebody that wanted me
Speaker 1: to do an event with with someone from the trans community,
Speaker 1: and but it was a comedy, it was in a
Speaker 1: fun environment, and my schedule wouldn't allow allowed for it.
Speaker 1: And I believed it worked out that way for a
Speaker 1: reason because I want When I got the invite to
Speaker 1: come here, I was like, oh man, this is perfect.
Speaker 1: Because it wasn't that I didn't want to sit down
Speaker 1: with somebody from a different community. I just felt it
Speaker 1: was critically important to sit down and have a conversation
Speaker 1: so people can see how we engage. There's time that
Speaker 1: me and you we do something down the road that's
Speaker 1: funny and ha ha and ki ki. That's fine, but
Speaker 1: I thought it was important that that one it's not
Speaker 1: in a in an environment where it's just all about
Speaker 1: a joke, that it's in an environment that you can
Speaker 1: sit down with somebody from the trans community, LGBT community,
Speaker 1: or somebody like me and actually have a conversation as
Speaker 1: real people. Because one of the things you always say
Speaker 1: that I appreciate what you say when you talk about advertisment,
Speaker 1: like I brushed my teeth, I used to paste, I
Speaker 1: use the oldorant like everybody else. So although those conversations
Speaker 1: are important to be at the table, it is important
Speaker 1: how we engage, and we need more conversations like this.
Speaker 1: I appreciate Charlotte Magine bringing you on, Otherwise I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have never known about you. I love my boss. I
Speaker 1: love you. Yeah, you can be funny and people still
Speaker 1: respect what you bring to the table. I look at
Speaker 1: the comments you get overwhelming response, even from people who
Speaker 1: may not even align with LGBT, they say, but I
Speaker 1: respect you know how you put it down, and so
Speaker 1: that matters too. You can be funny and also be
Speaker 1: taking serious at the same time. Should I think I'm funny,
Speaker 1: but people still take me serious. So I'm glad we
Speaker 1: had this conversation because I didn't want to um. I
Speaker 1: didn't think me doing an event with somebody else, and
Speaker 1: the schedule just didn't allow it. But I didn't think
Speaker 1: that was the best way to show me engaging with
Speaker 1: somebody at that particular time, because it could either dumb
Speaker 1: down what I'm trying to do or make it seem
Speaker 1: like we're making a mockery out of something, rather than
Speaker 1: having this conversation. And I always say that test and
Speaker 1: when they when they want to send one of the
Speaker 1: trans girls to come to the Forefront to speak, they
Speaker 1: always found the angriest, most disgrunted one. But it's never
Speaker 1: me because I don't want. I choose not to be
Speaker 1: the spokes first. I've never signed that for that. I'm
Speaker 1: an entertainer. I want to make people laugh and feel good,
Speaker 1: even though I want to push my politics. And what
Speaker 1: you said is very true. I always think that people
Speaker 1: hear you clear and better if you shove it to
Speaker 1: him and then you close it with a funny because
Speaker 1: it makes the impact not so hard, but you still
Speaker 1: hear the message. And sometimes my impact they just I
Speaker 1: think they just don't like it coming from me. Is
Speaker 1: that what it is? It's interesting that's because I think
Speaker 1: that that's a good point to and I and like
Speaker 1: Flames that I've always called her an anomaly for this
Speaker 1: reason is that when we have conversations and if I
Speaker 1: don't understand something, it's educational, it's not confrontational, it's not hostile.
Speaker 1: And you know, with my other job that I do,
Speaker 1: I do work with the trans community a lot, but
Speaker 1: I often find it that it's almost like they forget
Speaker 1: that they're black first, and they forget that we actually
Speaker 1: have this shared experience. It automatically goes to, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: the victim of you're oppressing me. So I think that's
Speaker 1: caused a lot of issues of where it's like I
Speaker 1: can't have this conversation with you because it's already starting
Speaker 1: off in the negative space. We have to come to
Speaker 1: the table in a capacity where we're actually trying to
Speaker 1: learn one another. And that's also to why I say,
Speaker 1: I think it's really messed up because a lot of
Speaker 1: flames transistors. It's almost like they're negating her experience. You know,
Speaker 1: her vernacular, her ideology, what they talked about when she
Speaker 1: was coming up is very different from now with certain
Speaker 1: words that are being used within this within the space
Speaker 1: and this community. But she's being ridiculed for that, and
Speaker 1: it's not okay because that was her lived experience. Don't
Speaker 1: deny what she lived through to validate what's happening now,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's all of that coming together. So
Speaker 1: that's why I appreciate the space that you know, we
Speaker 1: share with me in Flame because it's always a space
Speaker 1: of learning and camaraderie. It's never a space of oh
Speaker 1: I'm the victim or I feel like you're persecuting. That's
Speaker 1: not what this is. And let me speak line and
Speaker 1: to you. You need to allow that to be enough.
Speaker 1: Like when you say we need to come together, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say again one of the first trainers that I
Speaker 1: do where I say it's all about we, but it
Speaker 1: falls on me if they don't never come to the table,
Speaker 1: if they don't never get it. Moses had a one
Speaker 1: person to communicator Moses said, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 1: You've been the chosen one to go. It don't matter.
Speaker 1: Flame but said the all day and talk about I
Speaker 1: don't want to speak to nobody. Don't want to speak nobody.
Speaker 1: God has called you to speak, So get over that.
Speaker 1: All this time at what you don't want to do,
Speaker 1: don't have nothing to do with it. You've been in
Speaker 1: position and place for a reason to say what you're saying,
Speaker 1: and you can deny and you can talk around it,
Speaker 1: and you can say whatever. When you've been called to
Speaker 1: speak on certain issues, you've just been called. Period. And
Speaker 1: so when Moses was called the free the slaves and
Speaker 1: he said, I don't know what to say, I'm not
Speaker 1: equipped to say, God said, don't worry about I'm gonna
Speaker 1: seing you a are and I'm gonna seeing you a communicator.
Speaker 1: So Lauren, you are the communicator. That's it would only
Speaker 1: take two. It did nobody go back and say, well,
Speaker 1: what about if we get all them at the table?
Speaker 1: What about? No, all it took was two. I don't
Speaker 1: even have that. I don't have an agent, a booker,
Speaker 1: a manager, of publicist, nothing, So really, all it take
Speaker 1: is one. When something that's been putting you to speak,
Speaker 1: is to speak truth to power. And you can look
Speaker 1: at what people what how they respond to your message.
Speaker 1: If God called me to speak, you better send a
Speaker 1: check over here more than you have. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you know, I just experience having this converse stations with
Speaker 1: you and just hearing you out and listen to your
Speaker 1: passion about it. And if more of us would get
Speaker 1: these younger, the younger demographic involved in politics, young before
Speaker 1: they get the limitshes on their record, before they get
Speaker 1: the hiccups, because we can't have hiccups and getting they
Speaker 1: can have all the hiccups in the world. We can.
Speaker 1: I can. I tell you that. I guess somebody elected
Speaker 1: that was arrested twenty one times. I got a cocaine
Speaker 1: fell and elected that was arrested twenty one times in Orlando, Florida.
Speaker 1: She ran there, Florida, So we're in Florida. Ain't surprised, baby.
Speaker 1: I say that because I don't want to interrupt you,
Speaker 1: but I say that because the ones who've been through it,
Speaker 1: the ones who have been through the fire, they are
Speaker 1: the ones that bring for a peer gold. We can
Speaker 1: when you look at the compton who the mayor of Compton.
Speaker 1: We're only talking about five people to the polls when
Speaker 1: we talk about lower these lower level positions that are
Speaker 1: the most impactful. I say that because I need the
Speaker 1: homies to wake up. Because guess what if the homies
Speaker 1: wake up, the former gangsters that they wake up and
Speaker 1: they want to do an insurrection on the capitol. They
Speaker 1: ain't hiding, no, no, no, damn uh tables. They're getting witted.
Speaker 1: Those are our soldiers. That is our civil war army,
Speaker 1: that is our lazardus. No, we need to hiccups. Bring me,
Speaker 1: bring me the ones with the heads. I was saying
Speaker 1: that they keep us out if we got the hecups.
Speaker 1: But those are the ones I trust. I've said this publicly.
Speaker 1: I don't trust. They don't keep us houses. That's why
Speaker 1: we need you a part of it. So you just
Speaker 1: told the story how they tried to keep Can I
Speaker 1: can I bless you for a moment. You just told
Speaker 1: the story how they tried to keep how they tried
Speaker 1: to keep you out of it. They couldn't keep you
Speaker 1: out of it. They couldn't stop what was in you.
Speaker 1: So we have to just get the people that's willing
Speaker 1: to believe what's in you out hear what you're saying.
Speaker 1: And I'm not discounting, you know, getting them when they're
Speaker 1: young and all, because it's much better to get somebody
Speaker 1: before they're young, before they're broken. But I'm speaking on
Speaker 1: what God has called in my life. I go, I
Speaker 1: go teach in the prison, I go the It's about
Speaker 1: the least of these for me. I want to get
Speaker 1: the ones where they say you ain't you ain't no good,
Speaker 1: don't nobody won't you like you said, the straight community, don't,
Speaker 1: the gay community, don't this. And I want the ones
Speaker 1: that's willing to crawl, that's willing to get on glass.
Speaker 1: Those are the ones that's going to survive. Those are
Speaker 1: the warriors that we need now. I need the ones
Speaker 1: with the hiccups and we can get them elected. It's
Speaker 1: just simply just not true. Those just don't organize that way.
Speaker 1: Those are the ones that I trust the most. Has
Speaker 1: I said that I want to preach. I don't want
Speaker 1: to preach it that has lived his whole life. Holy
Speaker 1: I want somebody because he been in the world or
Speaker 1: she been in the world. You know, they experienced every
Speaker 1: So when you when I'm telling you my story, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you might live the experience. If you have something
Speaker 1: similar and you went through it, you'll understand exactly why
Speaker 1: I'm at at that moment. So yeah, I get you
Speaker 1: with that. It's just that because we're black and we
Speaker 1: get a blemish, they seem to be able to get
Speaker 1: away with it. And so I'm glad that you expressed
Speaker 1: that that somebody was arrested cocaine and you were okay
Speaker 1: felling one. And not only that she read see this
Speaker 1: they because again, remember I'm talking about local politics. That's
Speaker 1: the most powerful thing. That's where you get I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about where on Congress and Senate, you know, where
Speaker 1: they're running ads and all that type stuff. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about on the local level where it's literally just your
Speaker 1: high school, your church, and a couple of the folks
Speaker 1: that's going to the polls. When she ran, she ran
Speaker 1: against seven people, one of them was former Miss America.
Speaker 1: She got called even online Facebook, drinking, all types of
Speaker 1: ship you name it. But what they could not take
Speaker 1: from Regina Hill go look her up was the work.
Speaker 1: The woman come after trenches. They cannot outwork her, They
Speaker 1: just cannot out hustle her. So again I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about Congress I'm not talking about Senate. I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about those positions. I'm talking about city council, city council,
Speaker 1: in your precinct, in your area, in the community where
Speaker 1: people are. You're talking about literally three or four precincts
Speaker 1: that make a decision. If you just get four or
Speaker 1: five hundred early absentee voting, you can win. Those are
Speaker 1: the ones that decide who gets the grant, what after
Speaker 1: food programs get the money, Where do we how do
Speaker 1: we take care of this redistrict, and how do we
Speaker 1: That's where the power is there. So if we are
Speaker 1: looking at local we can get former convicted folks and
Speaker 1: all kind of blemishes elected because we make the choice.
Speaker 1: Nobody's coming in and spending two million dollars on advertisement
Speaker 1: and all that time. I know what you're saying, like
Speaker 1: if you're trying to you know the war knots and
Speaker 1: the hert and you know the Senate, But that ain't
Speaker 1: where our power is. No damn way. All they're doing
Speaker 1: is going up there will argue with with two some
Speaker 1: people some people. They're not gonna get ship done. Where
Speaker 1: we get something done is on the city council level,
Speaker 1: on the mayor level, on the I tell people you
Speaker 1: go outside, you can get involved in anything you want.
Speaker 1: There's a commissioner for water and salt in Florida. There's
Speaker 1: somebody that's literally over the ship and the water. So
Speaker 1: if you don't like something in your community, I don't
Speaker 1: like the way to stop size is okay cool. I
Speaker 1: don't like the mets sit on the metro plan board.
Speaker 1: If you don't like the way your school these are
Speaker 1: These are positions that we actually control. It is no day,
Speaker 1: it's us. We can get these people done. I'll be
Speaker 1: glad when we can talk about this offline and anytime.
Speaker 1: You don't mind me doing a shameless plug text push
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Speaker 1: do free trainings on this. I show you the numbers.
Speaker 1: I show you how four thousand people, two thousand people
Speaker 1: out of a district of two hundred something thousand people,
Speaker 1: only four thousand made the decision. That's not a lot
Speaker 1: of numbers when we look at internal, So we have
Speaker 1: to start looking that way. We need them people. We
Speaker 1: need the people with the blemishes because they know the story.
Speaker 1: We need you. You can only advocate for what you've
Speaker 1: been through and that's why we need people like you.
Speaker 1: And if you believe that they people you will be
Speaker 1: here today. I'm gonna need you to go ahead and
Speaker 1: be my campaign manager day because I think too testms.
Speaker 1: But to your point to everything that you're saying, I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna require a bit of reprogramming because everybody
Speaker 1: doesn't have the ideology nor understand that that their vote
Speaker 1: really matters, you know, especially in today's climate, there's so
Speaker 1: much you know, back in stuff, half nont know how
Speaker 1: you can really suppress your vote, especially among us when
Speaker 1: our vote really really matters. So it's gonna take some
Speaker 1: reprogramming for people to actually understand the impact that they
Speaker 1: can potentially have. And it doesn't matter about the blemishes
Speaker 1: or what you've got in your past. It matters about
Speaker 1: the work that you're willing to do and will continue
Speaker 1: to do. So I think it's gonna take some re programming. Well,
Speaker 1: you said it at the beginning of the show. Well
Speaker 1: when Flame said, I look at what's in front of
Speaker 1: me right now. The police. The police is a city official,
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with Warnock or herschel Walker are.
Speaker 1: So if we if I were to just go on
Speaker 1: the conversation with most people get on conference that they
Speaker 1: want to talk to me about federal politics. I'm always
Speaker 1: redirecting it back to local because that's my job on
Speaker 1: what I do, not not just because you wanta talk
Speaker 1: about I'm gonna directed back and and show you how
Speaker 1: you the next candidate damn one like that's important to
Speaker 1: send its important. Yeah, got got to, got to, got it.
Speaker 1: But that's not the change that impacts you. It's just not.
Speaker 1: And so these are This is where these conversations, you know,
Speaker 1: really matter. And if Flame really believed that they have
Speaker 1: that much power, then Flame wouldn't be standing here today
Speaker 1: because they try to put you out the game too.
Speaker 1: We just need people to know how to move past
Speaker 1: the days and believe in what they've been called and
Speaker 1: don't stop. Can't stop. That's what we need on the
Speaker 1: local list, they can kiss. I tell people all time,
Speaker 1: you go to hell. That's why I don't run a nonprofit.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't run for office. That's why I
Speaker 1: don't take donations. I tell people because I always want
Speaker 1: to be in the position to tell you to go
Speaker 1: to hell. I don't want you thinking you own me
Speaker 1: at any time so I can't actually speak truth to power.
Speaker 1: And and if I can continue to do this and
Speaker 1: give people like you to say ship, you know what,
Speaker 1: tells them might have something here. Maybe I need to
Speaker 1: run the city council. Or if you don't do that,
Speaker 1: work on somebody's campaign. Everybody is not a candidate, work
Speaker 1: on the campaign. If you don't like the way Democrats
Speaker 1: are advertising towards us. I don't like no fucking no vote.
Speaker 1: That was trash. Guess who runs those campaigns, white folks.
Speaker 1: It's not that we can't use entertainment. The director communication
Speaker 1: is on the win. We all vote the white folks
Speaker 1: that got on the LinkedIn profile. I know how to
Speaker 1: reach out to diverse communities who know how to reach
Speaker 1: out better than me, so they get the jobs. So
Speaker 1: we gotta get the jobs. In politics, the operatives we
Speaker 1: need to be, the organizers and the candidates. We really
Speaker 1: have to do this at a local level and stop
Speaker 1: being so centered on federal That's not what affects your
Speaker 1: day to day life. It makes a difference, but it's
Speaker 1: not what's gonna be the quickest impact that's most relative
Speaker 1: to yous. I just felt the tour with you and
Speaker 1: Lauren we're gonna call it three and a half women.
Speaker 1: You know you playing, So you're playing. But can I
Speaker 1: tell you what God really working on? Somebody in Atlanta
Speaker 1: just reached out to me and said they wanted me
Speaker 1: to do a one night at a comedy I think
Speaker 1: it was what's in Atlanta? What's the blackest called comedy?
Speaker 1: The comedy? Uh, comedy act theater? If something else, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what it is. One comedy acted. It was
Speaker 1: some comedy spot black owned. Oh yeah, it's called the
Speaker 1: h Oh Shoots. I can't think of it. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I gotta look it up. But he had just said
Speaker 1: he said why don't you come? Because he came to
Speaker 1: my training and he said why don't you come? And
Speaker 1: I'm saying this to put this on the record because
Speaker 1: I would love do something with you. He said, I
Speaker 1: talked to the comedy owner and you should come. Do
Speaker 1: you know a night there? And I said that upwn, yes, uptown.
Speaker 1: That's exactly he said. I talked to him about you,
Speaker 1: and I think you should do And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that'd be interesting. I said that would be cool, like
Speaker 1: a town hall with a twist. You know. In conversation
Speaker 1: we have some spoken words, some drinks, some music and
Speaker 1: really just you know, have a conversation, um and moving
Speaker 1: this forward. So I'm down, says I just want to
Speaker 1: put on the record so you manager you hear it too.
Speaker 1: That's how I meant the testing. I didn't mean that
Speaker 1: we would go there and just do jokes. I mean
Speaker 1: that people really do receive it easier when it's familiar
Speaker 1: to them. So we're sitting around like Auntie Knee's uncle
Speaker 1: cousin and letting him be a part of the conversation.
Speaker 1: It makes them understand us more because even on the road,
Speaker 1: I do this thing called if you ain't scared to
Speaker 1: ask it, I ain't s get the answer it where
Speaker 1: I give you apple opportunity to ask me anything about myself.
Speaker 1: It makes people feel like they're part of this show.
Speaker 1: It also makes them feel important enough to hear exactly
Speaker 1: what you're saying because you're having the conversation publicly with
Speaker 1: them about it. So you, Tamika, Mallory, Lauren and me,
Speaker 1: we could call that three and a half women. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be the host. And how do you you ain't
Speaker 1: heard my straight shot? No chase, after dog Talk, after
Speaker 1: Dark Talk, talk about anything. I don't want to be dispectful,
Speaker 1: but both P words and the politics, I'll mix it
Speaker 1: up like ain't nobody being I'll talk about size and
Speaker 1: all kind of you want to talk about. Somebody that
Speaker 1: can put this politics thing together, baby, I'll break it out.
Speaker 1: I put all the metaphors from the sex, to the relationship,
Speaker 1: to the men, the women, the whole nine to get
Speaker 1: people to really because politics is a relationship. And if
Speaker 1: if you look at how you manage your raggedy ass
Speaker 1: relationship and what you're tolerating your relationship, it makes sense
Speaker 1: in your politics. It really do. And if you start
Speaker 1: having some boundaries in your relationship, you're gonna see boundaries
Speaker 1: in your business, you're gonna see boundaries in your politics.
Speaker 1: You're gonna move through the world differently. So I have
Speaker 1: very candid conversations my little I g live so no
Speaker 1: I would love to do something. It's time and that's
Speaker 1: really how you make the change, one on one interaction.
Speaker 1: And we can't just keep saying what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: They gonna know we gotta do I said with my training,
Speaker 1: because I trained year round, I run a business. But
Speaker 1: I said, this year I was so frustrated because the
Speaker 1: Democrat Party ain't building a bench, and I got tired
Speaker 1: of saying, when you're gonna build a bench, build a bench.
Speaker 1: So I said, you know what, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn, don't nobody to show up.
Speaker 1: I'm have no money. I'm gonna do it online. It
Speaker 1: don't take number forty dollars for me to do a zoom.
Speaker 1: I had two hundred some people show up in July.
Speaker 1: I had a hundred and some show up in uh
Speaker 1: touring to something in June, a hundred and something in July,
Speaker 1: and I was in tears when I saw three hundred
Speaker 1: people come from all over the country shout out to
Speaker 1: our Black Party and puff for helping me on the
Speaker 1: financing to make that free. Three hundred people came all
Speaker 1: over the country to the cops in a beautiful center
Speaker 1: to train people. I said, the devil is a lot
Speaker 1: people really do want to learn how to do this.
Speaker 1: They set there for twelve hours straight on a Saturday
Speaker 1: in the rain to get this understanding in a real
Speaker 1: training on how do we move forward? And then I
Speaker 1: just did another one on October twenty two. People online,
Speaker 1: I'm doing another one in December. I gotta get a
Speaker 1: free spot. I can only hold thirty people at a time.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be there all day to do thirty
Speaker 1: at a time to get sixty people. Because I said
Speaker 1: flame about two thousand twenty four. I am going to
Speaker 1: train two thousand twenty four people my damn self, not
Speaker 1: the Democrat Party, not the Republican Party. Ain't no more
Speaker 1: waiting and talking on them. Damn that what am I
Speaker 1: going to do? And I'm gonna say this and then
Speaker 1: our clothes at the end of the day. And I
Speaker 1: tell people, you don't have to be a religious person.
Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. We ain't got nothing
Speaker 1: where about it. If I just disappear into existence, then
Speaker 1: it is what it is. But what if I'm right.
Speaker 1: All the time we hear people say the goat, the goat,
Speaker 1: the goat, the greatest, all time, to go. We're always
Speaker 1: calling people to go. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: when it is all said and done, some people say
Speaker 1: it's gonna divide the from the tear. The New International
Speaker 1: Version talks about the goat and the sheep. There will
Speaker 1: become a time where the goat will be divided from
Speaker 1: the sheep, and the question will be who has been
Speaker 1: about the shepherd's business. The shepherd's business are those for
Speaker 1: the least of these. The shepherd's business are those that
Speaker 1: went to see them in prison, those that were hungry,
Speaker 1: those who had the scuffs, those that had the blemishes,
Speaker 1: those who were told they were no longer good enough.
Speaker 1: Only the shepherd's business. Only those who have been about
Speaker 1: the shepherd's business. Not those that just go along to
Speaker 1: get along like sheep, but those who are the shepherd's business.
Speaker 1: That's why I always redirect that question and say, yell,
Speaker 1: people do need to talk to the people without the blemishes,
Speaker 1: but I want the ones with the blemishes, because when
Speaker 1: it's all said and done, that's the shepherd's business. And
Speaker 1: that is who will be That is who will be exalted,
Speaker 1: that is who will be recognized, those that are about
Speaker 1: the shepherd's business. And it's up to us. And I
Speaker 1: can't say, well, you know, the Democrat partner did nothing.
Speaker 1: You know, I sent an inbox the flames, she never
Speaker 1: followed up. I'm doing it regardless. You do what you're doing,
Speaker 1: you don't, you don't because I have to be accountable
Speaker 1: for what I've been called for, and I'm telling you
Speaker 1: now speaking into your spirit and your soul for everybody
Speaker 1: to hear. You two are accountable for what's been put
Speaker 1: in you. That's how I know your whole background. I
Speaker 1: don't have to look it up research doing it that
Speaker 1: you've touched me, you've touched many other people, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna continue to spread that message whether you like it
Speaker 1: or not. So keep going around the burning bus. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be the spot. It ain't about what
Speaker 1: you don't want to be. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: it either, but it is what it is. This is
Speaker 1: what we've been called to do. So buckle up, dig in,
Speaker 1: get comfortable, ma'am, because it's time. And look. I was
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. I did all I could to avoid the
Speaker 1: burning Bush this past weekend. Sometime too, they drive you
Speaker 1: to a honey, get the burning bus to drink. That's
Speaker 1: what you know. Moses was an alcoholic, so I do
Speaker 1: my pastor, but honey, I'm also honey. I drink it up.
Speaker 1: I do they drive you to drink in this business.
Speaker 1: So I'm nowhere near perfect. I showed my cleavancee I'll
Speaker 1: do all that, but at the same time I over
Speaker 1: that I've been called. They said, maryly Magdalen was a whole.
Speaker 1: But guess what you know who you know who that
Speaker 1: rider was. When all the disciples went to sleep, guess
Speaker 1: who was by the tumb. It was Mary Magdalen. Baby.
Speaker 1: She said, if he can change me, the one with
Speaker 1: the blemishes, the one with discuffs, when it, when it
Speaker 1: got time, when it when ship got heavy, the disciples
Speaker 1: went on home and went to sleep. Mary Magdalen said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay by the tune, even if they killed me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay by the tune. She that was the one.
Speaker 1: They said, Oh you know, she was just a whole
Speaker 1: or whatever she was. She'd been through enough to know
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and stay by the tune. Because
Speaker 1: if he can do it for me, he showed enough
Speaker 1: can do it for himself. And has she not has
Speaker 1: she not been always? And has she not been by
Speaker 1: the tumb? Nobody wouldn't have witnessed him rising when he
Speaker 1: rode She went and woke them niggers up. These were
Speaker 1: the same ones that saw all of the miracles. It
Speaker 1: was married and said, get up, because he is now rose.
Speaker 1: So I loved. The images to me are always the
Speaker 1: ones that are called to do a different type of
Speaker 1: work and orchestrate a different type of people. And I
Speaker 1: love the I trained with Jack and Jill students. They're
Speaker 1: they're the elite, and I do Jack and Jill students.
Speaker 1: They love me. I trained with them like two or
Speaker 1: three d them a month, So I deal with those
Speaker 1: types of populations. But I know I've been specifically called
Speaker 1: for those that's been through something because I've been through something,
Speaker 1: and that's how we get this conversation going. And we
Speaker 1: need people that aren't afraid to lose something. I need
Speaker 1: you to lose something before I need you to know
Speaker 1: what I mean not to have nothing. I wasn't nervous
Speaker 1: and COVID because I've been broken. I know what I
Speaker 1: mean to not have six eight months. But y'all needs
Speaker 1: run around and nervous. There was Oh my god, you
Speaker 1: just hit me in my head. Girl, if you don't
Speaker 1: knock it out and get out my head. I was
Speaker 1: just talking to somebody yesterday about the interview I did
Speaker 1: with horrible decisions, and I had something to say, gonna
Speaker 1: come out after you. I say, I know how to
Speaker 1: do broke. That's the difference. I've been broken I never broke.
Speaker 1: I'm a hustler. I will never be broken. I have
Speaker 1: been broken, but I've never been broken. Yeah, baby, that
Speaker 1: don't shake me. I ruined number four for being in flame.
Speaker 1: Mat A n s ain't never scared because I ain't
Speaker 1: never scared. In fact, COVID made me because I started
Speaker 1: losing weight, because I gained like forty pounds over five
Speaker 1: or six years, and COVID, where everybody was gaining weight,
Speaker 1: I was losing because it showed me that I had
Speaker 1: been living. What was scaring everybody else was my normal
Speaker 1: and I it made me say, well, damn, have I
Speaker 1: what's wrong with me? Because I know what it means.
Speaker 1: I've lost over twenty plus family members. Every single I've
Speaker 1: lost at least one or two family members since the
Speaker 1: year two thousand until COVID two thousand twenty. There's times
Speaker 1: where I don't have a check for six, eight, nine months.
Speaker 1: But see, I'm a hustler, baby, I'll uber. I went.
Speaker 1: I had a six figure business a month, three hundred
Speaker 1: employees in Orlando. I lost it all. I had to
Speaker 1: go back and being sub to teacher and fifty dollars
Speaker 1: a day. I'll sell shoes at dealers for twelve lot.
Speaker 1: I'm a hustler for show for show, So when COVID
Speaker 1: had I don't understand what everybody was tripping on because
Speaker 1: this was my normal. You know, it's my normal thing
Speaker 1: to expect to be, to not have for eight, nine,
Speaker 1: ten months, to not have a mom or our daddy
Speaker 1: or somebody you can call and say, hey, can I
Speaker 1: borrow money I've been at I left the house at
Speaker 1: eighteen with the shirt on my back. So COVID to
Speaker 1: me wasn't what everybody else. I've always experienced death. I've
Speaker 1: always had sudden death in my life. In fact, if
Speaker 1: three months happened and something ain't going down, I'm wondering
Speaker 1: what what's going on? Cause I'm used to a cycle
Speaker 1: of three to four months or something tragically happening. So
Speaker 1: those are the ones that that know how to survive.
Speaker 1: I didn't have to get on pills and anxiety and
Speaker 1: then no disrespected people that needed therapy and anxiety and depression.
Speaker 1: But baby, this been This was my normal to me,
Speaker 1: and it made me say, damn, testing, if that's your normal,
Speaker 1: you probably need to change because why is everybody panicing?
Speaker 1: And that's when I started taking better control of my health.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, love it. Testing. You
Speaker 1: were such a great guest and so informed with you
Speaker 1: if I appreciate it, and you know all about me, girl,
Speaker 1: you do better in some of these Hollywood producers. That's true. Well,
Speaker 1: I gravitate to your message. So you you you don't
Speaker 1: ever know who's watching you from afar, and you don't
Speaker 1: know you know who you're impacting and and sometimes we
Speaker 1: get caught up, you know, I'll tell people just everybody
Speaker 1: don't have to click like on on everything for you
Speaker 1: to know they're not liking you and digging. You don't
Speaker 1: get caught up on the likes and the responses and
Speaker 1: the comments and all that. You are impacting people in
Speaker 1: ways that are far beyond you know, social media engagement.
Speaker 1: And so that's powerful to me, and it resonates with me,
Speaker 1: and it resonates with other people, and I hope to
Speaker 1: see you continue. Well, let me tell some we're gonna
Speaker 1: be following you to miss testing figure Roller, because girl,
Speaker 1: I'll tell your passion yo. That aggressiveness, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: And I hate when people affiliate black strong women, especially
Speaker 1: with being the angry black woman, because they they are informed.
Speaker 1: They are tired the bs. They are ready to make
Speaker 1: some changes to Whereas if you ain't ready to get
Speaker 1: on board with these strong black women, you better get
Speaker 1: the hell out of the way because they will steam
Speaker 1: roll you over. The black women will steap row you.
Speaker 1: Overrated women period. Women are truly to break out, including
Speaker 1: the women over and I ran these young girls that
Speaker 1: standing up for themselves. Everybody is taking heed to the
Speaker 1: power of the woman and the ones that are not
Speaker 1: gonna be lost by the way, said why the hell
Speaker 1: you think I want to be a strong black woman? Girl?
Speaker 1: We love too like people get it twisted like I'm
Speaker 1: sweet as candy, but don't cross me though I also
Speaker 1: was an m C S gun in the military, twenty
Speaker 1: three pound weapons. Don't get that's the thug above your head.
Speaker 1: She looked all nice. Absolutely so we bring balance, but
Speaker 1: that's just the black experience period. We have to bring balance.
Speaker 1: We we can't just be one way all the time.
Speaker 1: Some people call it cold switch, and I'm not switching.
Speaker 1: This is who I am. I just have balance, you
Speaker 1: know that that's it. And I and I'm passionate about
Speaker 1: what I believe in. And if you do call me angry,
Speaker 1: I can give you all the reasons I'm angry, and
Speaker 1: I want to know why you ain't angry about some
Speaker 1: of the things that that I'm bothered about. But I
Speaker 1: don't see it as angry. To see this being like
Speaker 1: somebody Grandma Auntie, that give a damn about what's happening
Speaker 1: to my community. That's it. You're You're a change agent,
Speaker 1: that's what that's what you are, and I really have
Speaker 1: to appreciate. I have to say thank you for doing
Speaker 1: what you're doing. You're creating your own lanes, your own
Speaker 1: avenues for people to follow you. Everybody can't do that,
Speaker 1: Everybody's not built to do that. So you are truly
Speaker 1: a change agent. So I'm so grateful that we had
Speaker 1: this conversation today because everybody needs different perspectives. That's the
Speaker 1: whole purpose of lack and learning is that, you know,
Speaker 1: we laugh about things, but ultimately we're learning. So you
Speaker 1: brought different perspectives for our listeners today, and I know
Speaker 1: that they're going to take so much away from this episode,
Speaker 1: So so thank you for all that you do. Thank you,
Speaker 1: and that's where we can follow you. Uh Tesla and
Speaker 1: Farrell spell t e z l y N f I
Speaker 1: G a R always the same way, same name, everywhere.
Speaker 1: I don't change, I will be the same. I always
Speaker 1: say at the end of my show, use it, lose it,
Speaker 1: can't make you choose it. I mean that I'm like
Speaker 1: the FedEx driver and it ain't really me creating no lane.
Speaker 1: I'm just driving in my own space. I'm gonna drop
Speaker 1: this package off. You either pick it up. You pick
Speaker 1: it up, you don't. You don't if you don't like
Speaker 1: it your neighborhood. I'm not gonna beg you to pick
Speaker 1: it up. I'm not gonna ask you to sign for it.
Speaker 1: I gave you this gift. You like it, you like it,
Speaker 1: you don't, you don't. We cannot be distracted behind trying
Speaker 1: to get people to get something that they don't want
Speaker 1: to get. We are in destiney moving time. Who's with
Speaker 1: us is with us, and Wayne's ain't. It's time to
Speaker 1: draw the land of the line in the sand dopeness.
Speaker 1: And you can follow Lauren Hogan at Lauren our Money
Speaker 1: Bagram and Lauren Hogan on Facebook and on YouTube, and
Speaker 1: don't follow me nowhere because let me tell you what
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going to know where about Lauren like
Speaker 1: a Monroe, Flame on Instagram, Marcus flaymar Parker on Facebook,
Speaker 1: Flame Memer on YouTube, and don't follow Flames Twitter because
Speaker 1: it's full of points. Well, I love pawn on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what can we stay there before we get out of here.
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Speaker 1: these artists been dropping. I've been keeping them in in
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Speaker 1: don't need to show that to nobody, not even a
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Speaker 1: can talk about that. Ye Williams coming out, gonna take
Speaker 1: me out to the ball game. He really wasn't all that.
Speaker 1: He wasn't better than Big Sean. Ass and just Williams
Speaker 1: place and take me out to the ball game and
Speaker 1: he brought his own back. Okay, okay, you have been
Speaker 1: such a remarkable guests. Thank you for coming on to
Speaker 1: laugh and learn with us. We owe your business and
Speaker 1: we owe this to you and Tamika and Lord, y'all
Speaker 1: need to put this together because I'm the type of
Speaker 1: artists I don't do anything behind the scenes. People terrible
Speaker 1: at least you know, at least you know. At least
Speaker 1: you know, and I appreciate you ship, but showing up
Speaker 1: and being lovely and giving it to y'all. But all
Speaker 1: the technical girl don't ask me to do. I don't
Speaker 1: even know how to push their own switch nothing, you know,
Speaker 1: I look forward to it. I think they'd be great,
Speaker 1: and I it's necessary, seriously, like real talk, even if
Speaker 1: we do it once or you know, two thousand twenty
Speaker 1: three is it. You cannot go into two thousand twenty
Speaker 1: four and sit up and talk about we're gonna look
Speaker 1: at what they're doing because the slaughter is coming, so
Speaker 1: either we're gonna be a part of it or not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with that whole heartedly. And oh
Speaker 1: I hate that people don't see that. We are so
Speaker 1: doomed either way. If they lose the Senate and the House,
Speaker 1: they're going to war. If they win, they're going to
Speaker 1: be more embolded and brash than they've ever been, and
Speaker 1: they already out of control. So yeah, we still got
Speaker 1: to show up and clown at these poles. Early voting
Speaker 1: is we're pushing that. We've been pushing that on laugh
Speaker 1: and learned it's melody and if you you know, I
Speaker 1: know they're doing voted intimidation in certain places and a
Speaker 1: lot of people want to show because a lot of
Speaker 1: people want to get into this altercation. I don't want
Speaker 1: the altercation because I don't know that we're as a
Speaker 1: black people. I don't even know if we're prepared. These
Speaker 1: people have, They've been collected forty years. You got two
Speaker 1: three guns and were banned labels and not ammo. And
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say that, baby yo, Gucci and your
Speaker 1: rear bottom is gonna be shot up. No, you're right
Speaker 1: about that. I believe in the two way. And again
Speaker 1: why I want a lot of the brothers from the
Speaker 1: hood to get in the movement because they are the
Speaker 1: ones that's gonna come like we we can get them
Speaker 1: to put their guns, then stop turning it at each
Speaker 1: other and come help. Let's find some of this white
Speaker 1: supremacy were getting somewhere because these others they're just not
Speaker 1: gonna do it. That's why we need different people in
Speaker 1: the movie. And I and and I appreciate people that
Speaker 1: are pushing voting me. I know that I'm speaking to
Speaker 1: a demographic that's not gonna vote at all. So I
Speaker 1: try to challenge him to say, if you're not voting
Speaker 1: in and who running in next year, who's running two
Speaker 1: thousand twenty four, because you have to do one or
Speaker 1: the other. You're either not gonna vote because you don't
Speaker 1: like the candidates, you say they trash, okay, cool, then
Speaker 1: we're gonna run if nothing else for precic precinct chair
Speaker 1: dog catches something. Let's get some of this power and
Speaker 1: start taking control. Oh my god, thank you a girl.
Speaker 1: This episode should be called we are They? Because you said,
Speaker 1: who is that? We are there? We are ye? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it my thing. I always say it's all about weed,
Speaker 1: but it starts with me. I trained that in my
Speaker 1: training flame. Because people think it's gonna be this big,
Speaker 1: you know, when you run for office. They think it's
Speaker 1: gonna because they train and all the trainers they tell, oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a treasure a campaign manager of this
Speaker 1: and this and that, and that's not the reality. It's
Speaker 1: really just gonna be you. You if you lucky, if
Speaker 1: you got one person, but really you're gonna be the
Speaker 1: one doing it all and and and when they get
Speaker 1: in it and they see that it's just them, they think, well,
Speaker 1: maybe nobody likes my message, and they get discouraged and
Speaker 1: they stopped. So that's the first session that I do
Speaker 1: to teach people. You're going to be by yourself. You
Speaker 1: need to be comfortable standing by yourself. And that's a
Speaker 1: very hard conversation, you know, for people to have. You
Speaker 1: must understand that. And they say, well I don't want that, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: You have to understand that, so that that is the
Speaker 1: the ending message. You're absolutely right, we are that you
Speaker 1: are a fantastic lady. And I'm telling you, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: listen to you because I'm gonna get when I need
Speaker 1: to get charged up. Inspite I'm coming listen you, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna run and just punch somebody brobably one of my kids.
Speaker 1: Fire and Flame and road literally your name is Flame.
Speaker 1: And then I'm doing my job because that's what I
Speaker 1: try to do. I try to just because I'm preaching
Speaker 1: to myself too. I ain't just talking to you. I
Speaker 1: got to motivate my damnself every day because it ain't
Speaker 1: the day to go by. I said, man, fun this ship,
Speaker 1: I don't know why we we're hard to do. We
Speaker 1: don't We're Swales. So I'm ministering to myself, so thank
Speaker 1: you for allowing me the opportunity. Fantastic, Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Tiffany Has. We had a great time. This
Speaker 1: was a great conversation and so much needed. And I'm
Speaker 1: telling you you already where you where you located? What state?
Speaker 1: I go between l A and Okay, let's let's get
Speaker 1: this town hall together. To Mika, Malli is soldier, a
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Speaker 1: there is damn damn show general because she put all
Speaker 1: the paperwork together and you know, I'm I'm the trans woman.
Speaker 1: King ain't gonna get past me. I mean, I'm zogie No,
Speaker 1: that'd be great. I hope we really follow up. Thank
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