Speaker 1: All right, the audible's back on the air. Kimbol Camber,
Speaker 1: John con Jemmy and John. Here we are. It's a
Speaker 1: super Bowl week San Francisco in Kansas City. They both
Speaker 1: got into town on on Sunday evening and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: media day on Monday, and then it's h and as
Speaker 1: to work and then they get to work on the
Speaker 1: on the game. And you know, it's funny these two
Speaker 1: weeks off and and you know, you that there's such
Speaker 1: a void between Championship weekend when you got the two
Speaker 1: great games, right and there were two really really good
Speaker 1: games to watch, and then you got that two weeks
Speaker 1: before the super Bowl starts and that week, that Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl week where where it's just like the there's like
Speaker 1: a void of of information coming out little dribs and
Speaker 1: drabs all of a sudden when they show up that
Speaker 1: when the two teams show up to town, it's a uh,
Speaker 1: it's a flood of information going around. Information, misinformation, rumors, scenarios,
Speaker 1: all kind of anything. You can imagine. It has been
Speaker 1: going on over this past week. You know. Way it's
Speaker 1: so much fun to gear up for Super Bowl after
Speaker 1: a week of kind of like the duldrums you know,
Speaker 1: you go up and you said, you're right. You get
Speaker 1: so excited for those championship games because you know the
Speaker 1: winner is gonna get their chance at the ultimate prize,
Speaker 1: was just being a world champion. And then you kind
Speaker 1: of go through and you fight through that week and
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, it's here and you don't
Speaker 1: want it to end, you know, you, like you said,
Speaker 1: you go through that Monday where all both teams face
Speaker 1: the media and they have a night uh you know
Speaker 1: at Marlin's Park, and then they kind of get through
Speaker 1: their routine, you know, their normal practice routine. They're normal
Speaker 1: meeting routines, and and the coaches kinda put the final
Speaker 1: touches on their game plans, and I'm sure they were
Speaker 1: doing a lot of work during that downtime, you know,
Speaker 1: to finalize and get a game plan where they felt
Speaker 1: like they were gonna, you know, become victorious on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: So it's a long road and it's a long way
Speaker 1: to go, but I bet those guys, you know, times
Speaker 1: flying for those guys, because before you know it, it it
Speaker 1: will be Sunday morning and they'll have the butterflies and
Speaker 1: they're ready to go and and that's probably the hardest
Speaker 1: time waiting and aching up and waiting for that kickoff
Speaker 1: that's gonna be around six thirty on Sunday. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think early in the week. I can remember when when
Speaker 1: you know, I have the opportunity to go twice and
Speaker 1: and and ended up on the wrong end of the
Speaker 1: stick on on that thing. And it's funny because people
Speaker 1: ask you, you you know, they asked been asked this a
Speaker 1: number of times. You know, you you go to a
Speaker 1: super Bowl and you lose, would you rather have not
Speaker 1: gone or or go and lose? And I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would rather not even go. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it's for that one team that loses. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's gut wrenching. It is a
Speaker 1: gut wrenching blow and it's awful. It's it and it
Speaker 1: never leaves you to this day. I walk around the
Speaker 1: two championships that we lost in Canada. It's like, you
Speaker 1: scratch and we could have won both those games, a
Speaker 1: chance to win, and you kind of go through plays
Speaker 1: and you go through, uh, different things that you would
Speaker 1: have done differently or hope that they would have changed
Speaker 1: the outcome of the game. But You're right. It's gut
Speaker 1: wrenching and it stays with you for a long you
Speaker 1: know what I tell you, to this day. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I I played in eight two and eighty four.
Speaker 1: You know that's you know, decades ago. Um, but it's
Speaker 1: still bother me to watch the Super Bowl to this day.
Speaker 1: You know, I watch it. I watch it like everybody else,
Speaker 1: But when I watch it, there's a there's there's a
Speaker 1: hole in me, there's something missing inside of me, because
Speaker 1: you know, having been there, having had the opportunity only
Speaker 1: to to fumble it away twice, uh, and just having
Speaker 1: that memory linger with you. And you know I got
Speaker 1: especially you know, leading up into the super Bowl. You
Speaker 1: know they're playing super Bowl. Here it comes this game.
Speaker 1: Here's this game, here's that game, and you know every
Speaker 1: now and then you walk by your eye. Geez, I
Speaker 1: don't watch what game again, you know, forget it. But
Speaker 1: much less, much less a second game after that, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know, you know how it is. Well, it's
Speaker 1: like when you're watching tape and being a player, you
Speaker 1: know that play is coming, is coming again, and there's
Speaker 1: nothing you can do about it, and you have to
Speaker 1: kind of sit through it. But now we're adults. We
Speaker 1: can walk out of the room exactly. We don't change
Speaker 1: the station. Forget that. I don't go. Yeah, I'll go back,
Speaker 1: and I'll go further than that. You know, I got
Speaker 1: my my mother in law when I was playing, uh,
Speaker 1: taped almost every one of our games, you know, and
Speaker 1: she was up in New Jersey, and so you know,
Speaker 1: she got a lot of the games up there, and
Speaker 1: then she put them on VCR. Right, So I've got
Speaker 1: these VCR tapes and don't you know who, God knows
Speaker 1: who has a VCR recorder now, but you know, he goes,
Speaker 1: we why don't you get them all turned into two
Speaker 1: DVDs and stuff for CD s. I'm sure you can
Speaker 1: get them digitally or whatever. And uh, I go, I
Speaker 1: don't want him. I don't, I can't. I can't. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about I'm talking about like a like a
Speaker 1: third week of the season in the nineteen eighty eighty
Speaker 1: one or something where you played Tampa Bay in some
Speaker 1: you know, random, random, meaningless game and I slide it
Speaker 1: in for a minute, I watched like one series. I
Speaker 1: can't watch this, I know, because I know it's kind
Speaker 1: of I remember I missed the tackle here, and you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm afraid if I watch it all here, the
Speaker 1: echoes of Don Sholey in my ear make that Yeah,
Speaker 1: it never goes lay. Never five years old and it
Speaker 1: still doesn't go away. Still, I remember I could pick
Speaker 1: up any game, put it on and watch it and
Speaker 1: go turn it off because I know I made it.
Speaker 1: I got I know there's I got something coming up.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see. You know what's funny. My
Speaker 1: high school buddies and I we went and played golf
Speaker 1: the other day and we were reliving one of the
Speaker 1: plays from St. Thomas at Minus when we were sixteen
Speaker 1: years old, about George Smith getting choked on the on
Speaker 1: the court on the phones running down the sidelines because
Speaker 1: I changed the player in the huddle. You know, it
Speaker 1: was a time we used to shuttle players in and
Speaker 1: out so that you know, the fullback would come in
Speaker 1: and another fullback would go out, or a wide receiver
Speaker 1: would come in, a wide receiver would go out. Well,
Speaker 1: my best friend comes in at wide receiver and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he wants the old man wants to run thirty one.
Speaker 1: That's trap. But I'm I'm gonna be open on the corner.
Speaker 1: I said, let's run the corner. So we call the play.
Speaker 1: We changed the play, and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 1: see George running down the sideline and instead of the
Speaker 1: chords falling off of his head, they felt on his
Speaker 1: Adam's apple and he almost went right. Yeah, he almost
Speaker 1: went down, and he we no one wanted to go
Speaker 1: to the sidelines after that. It's it's funny, you know,
Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned that because I was I was
Speaker 1: at a deal. I did a deal a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago with the like a reunion of my senior
Speaker 1: my high school football team of my senior year, and
Speaker 1: they had like twenty five guys there, which was awesome,
Speaker 1: and guys I hadn't seen. She's some of those guys
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen since since the day I left to
Speaker 1: go to college, you know, and and so to come back.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because the conversations were and I don't
Speaker 1: know where all got off on this tangent, but anyway,
Speaker 1: the conversations were, you know, they go, guys, hey, Kim,
Speaker 1: you remember that, remember we were playing uh, you know
Speaker 1: Mount Pleasant High School, you know, in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: and I'm going brod A lot of games under the
Speaker 1: h but but but but for them, you know, for
Speaker 1: guys that that's visit where their their last game, their
Speaker 1: senior year, that was it. That's where there, that's where
Speaker 1: their football life ended for the rest of their life.
Speaker 1: So those memories of those games that they played in
Speaker 1: year or are crystal clear to the crystal clear to me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I remember when that school was,
Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, we won that game, did yeah? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you remember it was thirty four to seventeen. You know,
Speaker 1: we came here. You know, well, I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I guarantee the guys playing on Sunday for the World
Speaker 1: Championship will remember the good plays, he'll remember the bad plays,
Speaker 1: the remember the ones in between for the rest of
Speaker 1: their lives. And it's one of those things where, man,
Speaker 1: if you're playing in that game, how badly you want
Speaker 1: to win that game? You know what? And to you look,
Speaker 1: you know you we we could sit down and we'll
Speaker 1: talk about the games. We'll talk about the forty Niners
Speaker 1: and you know, can the forty Niners run the football
Speaker 1: like they've done and be effective against you know, against
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Got Chris Jones coming back for them, and
Speaker 1: he played last We're the last game and he got
Speaker 1: out healthy, so they got one of the big run
Speaker 1: stoppers back. You know, can can Pat Mahomes, you know,
Speaker 1: do the things that he done, He's done against that
Speaker 1: San Francisco defense, especially with that front four that they've got.
Speaker 1: You know, well, we'll talk about all that stuff as
Speaker 1: we go on. But but you know it's funny, you
Speaker 1: can you can break these and look, you watch NFL Network,
Speaker 1: you watch ESPN, you watch any of these shows, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be it is gonna be broken down to
Speaker 1: the most minute thing you can think of. And if
Speaker 1: I was to put an umbrella over the game and
Speaker 1: say this is what's gonna decide the game, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be the team that takes the game more seriously then
Speaker 1: the ancillary stuff that's going on around you with the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and it's easy to say that, hey, when
Speaker 1: I get there, no, no, we're gonna be focused. But
Speaker 1: when you know, when you when you remember playing in
Speaker 1: the first Super Bowl, played and we went to the
Speaker 1: hotel and you know, checked in, got our keys, got
Speaker 1: everything you have to go in. Like if you're a
Speaker 1: Nike guy, you went into the Nike you know, and
Speaker 1: you got your goodie bag, and then all the T
Speaker 1: shirts and stuff they're getting in and then you go
Speaker 1: up the room, and then and then you come down
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the elevators open up, and
Speaker 1: the lobby is packed with people. It's family, it's friends,
Speaker 1: it's people looking to scalp tickets, it's it's agents, it's
Speaker 1: the people you tell me you yeah, and so I mean, so,
Speaker 1: so you've got all this going on, and it's to me,
Speaker 1: it's the team that can filter that out, the team
Speaker 1: that can push that aside and not get caught up
Speaker 1: in it to the point where you get into a game.
Speaker 1: It's a second quarter, but man, we're in the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get you know something, you know, So so
Speaker 1: that that that to me. I think these games, you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, on an umbrella, looking at it overall
Speaker 1: or or one or lost by the team that can
Speaker 1: focus the best this week. They both focused last week
Speaker 1: when they're on the on their home, in their home facilities,
Speaker 1: they put in their game plans. They talked about what
Speaker 1: they're gonna expect for the week of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Don't get into this, don't do this, don't do that.
Speaker 1: All that, but then when you you yeah, yeah, yeah, yea,
Speaker 1: I got it, I got it, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you get here and and and you know,
Speaker 1: in Pandora's box opens up, Well, you're right. And you
Speaker 1: have two different styles of coaching too. You have a
Speaker 1: young coach that's in his very first Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: you know he's he's has the confidence of being able
Speaker 1: to capture a world championship because he feels like he
Speaker 1: has the best team. And then you've got a veteran
Speaker 1: coach that's trying to put a stamp on his legacy
Speaker 1: and Andy Reid, uh, you know, compared to Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 1: So there's there's two different spectrums on maybe how they
Speaker 1: approached that week off in terms of, hey do this,
Speaker 1: don't do this. This is how I want you to go.
Speaker 1: I want you to not not to change a thing
Speaker 1: from the way you've approached every game, you know, go
Speaker 1: leading up to us getting a chance to win a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And then you may have Andy Reid's wisdom
Speaker 1: and knowledge of, hey, I want you to do this
Speaker 1: because we found out this was best. You know, this
Speaker 1: is the way we approached We we went one route.
Speaker 1: It didn't really work out for us. So you have
Speaker 1: that to consider, you know, how how the mentality of
Speaker 1: these teams are are coming into Super Bowl week with
Speaker 1: a young coach that you know, is his first time
Speaker 1: against the veteran coach. That boy, if he wins a
Speaker 1: super Bowl, you can see him, you know, maybe one
Speaker 1: day being a Hall of Famer. Yeah. Yeah, speaking of
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and we're gonna get a chance here
Speaker 1: a little bit later on the program, UH to to
Speaker 1: talk to who we we hope is gonna be a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Uh Saturday, the day before the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl begins, Zach Thomas. You know, Zach up for the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. He's down to the final fifteen five
Speaker 1: five guys go in and when you look at the
Speaker 1: landscape there, you feel pretty good about Zack's opportunity. So
Speaker 1: we'll get a chance to talk to Zak and and
Speaker 1: about what that may mean to may mean to him,
Speaker 1: and hopefully will mean to him. Is that happens, and
Speaker 1: so just another thing that goes on during the course
Speaker 1: of this week. And you can forget about a lot
Speaker 1: of the stuff, you know, if you're an NFL nerd,
Speaker 1: if you're a guy that just just just guy or
Speaker 1: girl or what are that that just lives and breathe it. Um.
Speaker 1: It's a great place to be around the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: especially it's on our own backyard, and you know it's
Speaker 1: gonna be traffic and there'sna be a lot of people.
Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily want to get involved in in
Speaker 1: the traffic and in too much to that stuff. But well,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're a fan that hasn't been around it, um,
Speaker 1: I would I would implore you to go down and
Speaker 1: just even if you don't have tickets for and just
Speaker 1: go down to be around it, be around for the attack.
Speaker 1: Some patients, yeah, back, some patients head down the convention center.
Speaker 1: They got the you know, the the NFL experience going
Speaker 1: on and just about everywhere you go, and you got
Speaker 1: radio exactly just where you're gonna run into players and
Speaker 1: and and and celebrities and and and every It's become
Speaker 1: such a you know, it's amazing when when and I
Speaker 1: keep going back to when my experience, because that's what
Speaker 1: I don't like got is you know when when when
Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to play, I thought it was
Speaker 1: I thought it was amazing how big it was, how
Speaker 1: big the super Bowl was it looks that looks like
Speaker 1: that looks like an NFL pre squad inter squad scrimmage
Speaker 1: compared to what the Super Bowl is now and the
Speaker 1: size and the scope and the hype and the and
Speaker 1: the events and the way the NFL has taken this
Speaker 1: thing and really turned it into you know, you can
Speaker 1: talk about World Cups, and you can talk about Olympic Games,
Speaker 1: and and they the NFL has put this game in
Speaker 1: the you know, in the stratus of of of all
Speaker 1: of those games, is the biggest sporting events in the world.
Speaker 1: You can't talk about it without throwing the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: right right there around the top of it. Well, it's
Speaker 1: it's a destination, you know. They they've made it a
Speaker 1: destination for football fans from all over the world. Really,
Speaker 1: you know now that there's games in Mexico, and there's
Speaker 1: been games in London, and there's been games you know,
Speaker 1: all over the world in terms of trying to garner
Speaker 1: that fan awareness and and that passion for the sport
Speaker 1: of of American football. And like you said, from from
Speaker 1: the eighties to the nineties to the early two thousands,
Speaker 1: we've seen this game kind of morph into not one week,
Speaker 1: not two weeks, but the entire season, you know, because
Speaker 1: as soon as it ends, they're talking about the you know,
Speaker 1: the next destination and where you're gonna go and how
Speaker 1: much fun it's gonna be, you know, in Tampa, in
Speaker 1: l a Or in Atlanta, wherever, you know, wherever it's
Speaker 1: gonna be held in the next couple of years. And Minneapolis, Minneapolis, Detroit, No,
Speaker 1: you can keep going. But I mean it's unbelievable the
Speaker 1: fan base, and they're already thinking about the next one.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna get taken. I'm gonna go here,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna go We're gonna spend the whole week.
Speaker 1: You know, there's only a week between that game and
Speaker 1: and the super Bowl. You know, the championships that year,
Speaker 1: so they're already plotting out where they want to go.
Speaker 1: I think they're I think there are Wednesday super Bowls,
Speaker 1: and there were Monday super Bowls. The Wednesday super Bowls
Speaker 1: are Minneapolis or you know, cold Weather play. Where are
Speaker 1: you going they put a super Bowl here? I'll wait
Speaker 1: until Wednesday. Go Miami in San Diego, you know, the
Speaker 1: Bay Area. Hey, let's go out there Monday. Then we
Speaker 1: can do a lot of stuff. Well, especially if you're
Speaker 1: living in Chicago, you're living in the the East, in Boston,
Speaker 1: you want to get out of the cold. If you're
Speaker 1: thinking about let me, if you're if you're if you're
Speaker 1: in um you're in North Dakota, if you're in New York,
Speaker 1: if you're anywhere on the Eastern Seaboard, if you're in
Speaker 1: the you know, in Colorado or whatever, and you're sitting
Speaker 1: there and it's it's snowing or it's freezing, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, on you know, you're you're you're playing,
Speaker 1: You're gonna go to the super Bowl. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go Thursday. And all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you flip it on and you look at like absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 1: They got the beast, the palm trees. Hey, can we
Speaker 1: you guys want to go tomorrow? The hell out of
Speaker 1: here and go tomorrow. You don't have to check the
Speaker 1: weather channel, that's for sure. So speaking of that, you
Speaker 1: know all the side. And again, Miami to me, why
Speaker 1: in Miami is not on a regular rotation for this
Speaker 1: game is to me? To me, the best to me,
Speaker 1: if I was to pick, would be it would be Miami.
Speaker 1: It would be New Orleans, it would be San Diego
Speaker 1: and probably now with the with the uh forty Niners
Speaker 1: and you stand probably the Bay Area up there, probably
Speaker 1: the Vegas. I can't I can't imagine that that might
Speaker 1: be a two week but but anyway, but so this
Speaker 1: is this is one of places. So nowhere is no
Speaker 1: what it's gonna be. Now, the question is, John, when
Speaker 1: you look at this football team used for this football game,
Speaker 1: whether to you can make a easy to make a
Speaker 1: We could sit here and go for ten minutes and
Speaker 1: you take Kansas City and I'm gonna take Fancisco, and
Speaker 1: we'll tell each other why that that team is gonna win,
Speaker 1: and then we can flip it over and I can
Speaker 1: tell you the same I can tell you why the
Speaker 1: other guy is gonna win. You know. So it's one
Speaker 1: of those games which I think, to me, I think
Speaker 1: this is uh, I thought, I thought. I heard yesterday
Speaker 1: that this game one point spread is the lowest lowest
Speaker 1: point spread total of any of any Super Bowl. Is
Speaker 1: that close? That's amazing? And when we really do, when
Speaker 1: you dive in and you look at the teams, the names,
Speaker 1: you know, the quarterbacks, everybody knows, you know, the defensive
Speaker 1: ends for for each team, or are key defensive players
Speaker 1: everybody knows, but it's the running backs. Go Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy was all right with Miami and Damian Williams,
Speaker 1: or this guy was you know, this guy was on
Speaker 1: five teams just a couple of years ago for San Francisco.
Speaker 1: So so you you don't really have familiarity, but you
Speaker 1: do in terms of the way they play. And if
Speaker 1: you follow the those two teams throughout the regular season,
Speaker 1: you know that they have fought adversity. You know, they're
Speaker 1: not coming in with you know, just one loss or
Speaker 1: or two losses on the season. They've been able to,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of get back after they've stumbled and
Speaker 1: get back into their winning ways and get on a
Speaker 1: role a little bit. And especially when the playoffs started,
Speaker 1: you know, with the Dolphins beating New England and having
Speaker 1: Kansas City be able to stay at home, you know
Speaker 1: throughout the playoffs really helped them because in their two
Speaker 1: games they fell behind and they kind of needed that
Speaker 1: home field advantage to get that crowd going and get
Speaker 1: themselves back into the football game. And for San fram
Speaker 1: the same way, only their wins have been more dominant.
Speaker 1: It seems like you know, they they felt like they
Speaker 1: handled their business a little bit more clean. I guess
Speaker 1: cleaner in Kansas City did. But I just think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those games where the quarterbacks are
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot to say, but the defenses are
Speaker 1: gonna have equally enough to say on the on the
Speaker 1: winner and the outcome of this game. The thing, you know,
Speaker 1: the thing I look at it is in those games.
Speaker 1: I mean you look at San Francisco, uh against Green Bay,
Speaker 1: and and you know who knew rahe most most was
Speaker 1: gonna come out in two some yards four touchdowns in
Speaker 1: the game and become that guy. Now, my guess is
Speaker 1: that he's an afterthought come Monday after Super Bowl. I
Speaker 1: I just can't see. You know, look, everyone knows his
Speaker 1: story now. He's on five, six, sevent team, many teams
Speaker 1: he's he's been on and kind of bounced around. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins had him for a little bit and in this
Speaker 1: and that. But to expect that he's going to do
Speaker 1: it again is a little bit far fest to me.
Speaker 1: But having said that, you know, the other thing I
Speaker 1: look at about that game, uh, the championship game on
Speaker 1: the NFC side is well, I think I thought just
Speaker 1: San Francisco just mauled Green Bay off from the offensive line.
Speaker 1: Think the offensive line just man handled the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage and the defensive line man handle the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: And to me, that was the biggest difference in that
Speaker 1: in that football game. Never allowed you know, and never
Speaker 1: allowed um Aaron Rodgers to really get going, never let
Speaker 1: them get their running game going. And defensively they had
Speaker 1: they had an answer to everything that the Green Bay
Speaker 1: was showing them. Did you think to watching that game?
Speaker 1: I think San Francisco because they're so athletic on the
Speaker 1: offensive line and and Kittle is such a good blocker
Speaker 1: at tight end. The way they scheme their runs are
Speaker 1: a lot different than a lot of teams in the NFL.
Speaker 1: You know, pulling a tackle and landing your tight end
Speaker 1: seal and that let that tackle get to the second
Speaker 1: level when you're running a counter that takes a long time.
Speaker 1: But yet they were still able to be able to
Speaker 1: get the angles on those blocks because they're so strong
Speaker 1: and athletic to get there. I just think that brings
Speaker 1: a whole new dynamic and to me, Kittle. Kittle is
Speaker 1: really one of the keys dun look at and look,
Speaker 1: you can talk about him catching the full tight ends
Speaker 1: exactly runs after catch, you know, you can talk about that,
Speaker 1: but but I think you're right. The thing to me
Speaker 1: that makes him such a perfect fit for the forty
Speaker 1: niners is his ability to block. You come in a
Speaker 1: wham block and take somebody out. They're not they're not
Speaker 1: afraid to set him over defensive enage and try to
Speaker 1: get him in a position. And you know, normally you watch,
Speaker 1: you know, you see a lot of time match. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they put a you know, they put a linebacker over
Speaker 1: a tight end or a defensive end over and the
Speaker 1: guy gets run over. Well, Kittle matches up and blocks
Speaker 1: as well as just about any with them, and it
Speaker 1: gives them a lot of a lot of freedom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And to me, it's almost this game maybe about perimeter football.
Speaker 1: Which team is going to be able to get their
Speaker 1: running game out to the perimeters. You know, just think back,
Speaker 1: think back to the game Kansas City's game against Tennessee.
Speaker 1: That that one play where where Mahomes gets out almost
Speaker 1: barely gets around the corner and then you've got people
Speaker 1: got any out runs down the side. One of the
Speaker 1: great runs that we've seen in you know, in playoff football,
Speaker 1: and you know there it is that perimeter game. If
Speaker 1: you got to you know, cant keep him off the
Speaker 1: perimeter and keep him from turning that corner. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be one of the big issues for them. But you
Speaker 1: can say in France, have some balance because I don't
Speaker 1: think in a Super Bowl. I mean they did it
Speaker 1: in an an NFC championship game. They didn't throw pass
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. I mean, can you continue to
Speaker 1: to live like that and and be able to work
Speaker 1: off of play action now, because you know Kansas City
Speaker 1: is gonna have an answer at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna it's not going to be as
Speaker 1: easy as it was. I don't think in the championship game.
Speaker 1: Now it might be. Look, I think what things Kansas
Speaker 1: City may have going for them from that standpoint is,
Speaker 1: you know Tennessee tried to remember Tennessee came out in
Speaker 1: the championship, they went three tights. You know, they're trying
Speaker 1: to do all that stuff, trying to get the corners
Speaker 1: and listen that so so Kansas City had a chance,
Speaker 1: had a had a game a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 1: defending I think they're gonna see out of the forty
Speaker 1: niners in a different fashion, but still that work in
Speaker 1: the corners and trying to you know, trying to break
Speaker 1: down that uh, trying to you know, break down the
Speaker 1: contain the perimeter and find and find a soft corner on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll be it'll be interesting how how the defensive schemes
Speaker 1: and what they try their answers are gonna be to
Speaker 1: the multiple sets of San Francisco and Kansas City can
Speaker 1: give you. I think Kansas City is a little bit
Speaker 1: more free wheeling with a let's just go one back
Speaker 1: and let's let's spread everybody out and let Patrick decide
Speaker 1: where he wants to go with the football. And I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a key for him to be
Speaker 1: patient because San Franz gonna sit back in zone. They
Speaker 1: can put pressure with just four, you know, so they're
Speaker 1: gonna sit back in those zone coverages, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to be take what's there in the passing game
Speaker 1: and not really forced the issue down the field, because
Speaker 1: that's how opposing teams put the ball at risk, you know,
Speaker 1: for the corners, and and Sherman coming up with a
Speaker 1: couple of picks in the in the postseason and being
Speaker 1: able to get greedy, you know when when you don't
Speaker 1: need to, when you just need to kind of let
Speaker 1: it come to you as a quarterback. And that'll be
Speaker 1: something to watch. The other thing, too, is watching Kansas
Speaker 1: City their offense. You know, they just you know, Andy
Speaker 1: Reid's gonna come up with some different wrinkles. He's gonna
Speaker 1: show you different things. And I can recall going when
Speaker 1: we were when the Dolphins played Kansas City a few
Speaker 1: years ago, going out there when Albert Wilson was still
Speaker 1: on the Chiefs and much like they used Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1: Now you know they were using Albert on those jeff
Speaker 1: Man fake Jeff you know, just motion give in motion
Speaker 1: and now everyone and then you come the other way.
Speaker 1: And so you know he he's Andy Reid knows this
Speaker 1: offense and put this offense together so much that misdirection
Speaker 1: wide misdirection is gonna be a big part of this game.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is I think when you look
Speaker 1: at Kansas City's offense and you got a a very
Speaker 1: you know, speed kills on their offense and they're a fast.
Speaker 1: Fact you can't lose leverage the San Francisco and and
Speaker 1: being disciplined with your leverage, and you got you got
Speaker 1: that front. You know. One of the things I've always
Speaker 1: you know, much like much like when when when Um
Speaker 1: the Giants beat New England, when when they played him
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, when New England was undefeated, their
Speaker 1: ability to just rush four guys up front create pressure.
Speaker 1: And look, they had Eli Manning back, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean not ely Man. They had Um who was h Brady.
Speaker 1: Brady wasn't going in, you know, so so it wasn't
Speaker 1: the same. It wasn't the same as having Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: I think San Francisco can do that with their front four.
Speaker 1: But they're gonna have to be Cognis in the passing lanes.
Speaker 1: They're going to be Congress and the quarterback front side
Speaker 1: and backside. Because one thing, you know, you know, especially
Speaker 1: like you know, Nick Boles and Nick nick Nicks played great.
Speaker 1: You know, Um all year long. He's been dominant. If
Speaker 1: I see one flawing Nick, it's he wants to make
Speaker 1: every play. So they run that little sweep to the
Speaker 1: other side he's collapsed down, You do that little fake toss,
Speaker 1: run the naked boot coming back. And especially you got
Speaker 1: Mahomes who can you got now you got him run
Speaker 1: past and he's out there and he opened, and he's
Speaker 1: got leverage, he's wide open, got a tight end. You
Speaker 1: got Kelsey coming across the field, you got the high low,
Speaker 1: or I can run and and and attack the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Well, that that, to me is going to
Speaker 1: be one of the issues that I think that that
Speaker 1: that and I've watched I watched the forty nights enough
Speaker 1: to wear. You can see where they've they've kind of
Speaker 1: school bows on that. But he's just he's got that
Speaker 1: mentality wanted to make every play, and sometimes he bites
Speaker 1: in that cheese and and so so there's a lot
Speaker 1: of different opportunity. There was speed and athleticism on offense
Speaker 1: for Kansas City versus speed and athleticism on the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the fort with San Francisco. That that is
Speaker 1: gonna be those two two those that matchup Kansas City's
Speaker 1: offense against San Francisco's defense. To me is it's that's
Speaker 1: the that's the cotton candy. That's the one you want
Speaker 1: to bite up and watch it. Whereas when you look
Speaker 1: at the others offense against the other one, you you
Speaker 1: kind of feel like it's gonna be more of a
Speaker 1: more of that three three yards in a cloud of dust,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be more of of three and out
Speaker 1: and in the field position, you know, and in finding
Speaker 1: a way to limit the explosive place for Kansas City.
Speaker 1: And on the other side for San Francisco, they want
Speaker 1: to possess the football, keep Patrick Mahomes on the sideline,
Speaker 1: so they're gonna try to grind it out. Play action.
Speaker 1: Get Jimmy on that little play action where he has
Speaker 1: the tight end really quick in the flat, get the football,
Speaker 1: They move the chains, and they do it again, and
Speaker 1: they start on that clock. Because the less opportunities and
Speaker 1: possessions you can give Kansas City in this game, I
Speaker 1: think that's one of those keys for San Francisco that
Speaker 1: they're gonna try to, you know, create ball possession and
Speaker 1: create time of possession and create field position wins to
Speaker 1: make them go eight and ninety. Let me ask you this, John, Uh,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo biggest game he's ever played in his life.
Speaker 1: Last week was the biggest game. Two weeks ago was
Speaker 1: the biggest game he played in his life. Uh. They
Speaker 1: you know, he have to throw the ball a lot
Speaker 1: way you throw eight times, the don't have to throw
Speaker 1: the whole ball a whole bunch. They were able to
Speaker 1: run the football. Um, I've got to think that Kansas
Speaker 1: City going in this game says, Hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: if someone's gonna beat us, it's gonna be Jimmy Garrold.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna come after you got well you
Speaker 1: they got to stop the run and force him to
Speaker 1: If they gotta make him be the focus of that offense,
Speaker 1: you gotta win or lout. You're gonna You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to win or lose with Jimmy garl want to the Titans.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that everybody has a Derrick Henry in
Speaker 1: the backfield, because they don't. But that's the formula. You
Speaker 1: have to win on first and second down. If you
Speaker 1: get the third night, make the quarterback win against man
Speaker 1: coverage and make him do it with the least amount
Speaker 1: of time in the pocket. And I think that's where
Speaker 1: Kansas City wants it to be. If they can stop
Speaker 1: or slow down the run and then send that extra
Speaker 1: guy that makes Garoppolo maybe want to throw it account early,
Speaker 1: that's that's their advantage. That's where they want the game
Speaker 1: to be played. It's funny because if you look at
Speaker 1: the teams and they're very different, but they're very sim
Speaker 1: her tight end dominant. Right, both teams are tied and dominant.
Speaker 1: Both teams have pretty good offensive lines. Yeah, it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's yeah. It's gonna be a nice little match up here.
Speaker 1: And very fortunate now to be joined by uh by
Speaker 1: Uh Well, first of all, one of my favorite players
Speaker 1: ever for the for the Miami Dolphins and one of
Speaker 1: the classiest guys they've ever played for the Dolphins. And
Speaker 1: hopefully we see him here UH on Saturday morning. I
Speaker 1: guess at sometimes I don't know if it's morning or
Speaker 1: mid afternoon. When he has little knock on the door
Speaker 1: and in the in the world, I think we'll all celebrate,
Speaker 1: Uh celebrate that. Zach Thomas and uh join us right now. Zach, Hey,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us in uh, John Kenjimmy Kimbo camper
Speaker 1: with you. Appreciate you taking some time out for us.
Speaker 1: I know it's a busy week and an exciting week
Speaker 1: for you, so we really appreciate your time. Thanks Zach.
Speaker 1: So so, Zach tell me here here we are early week,
Speaker 1: Super Bowl week, UM Hall of Fame coming up, you're
Speaker 1: one of the finalists. Uh, five guys being picked. What's
Speaker 1: in your gut right now? Man? It's uh, you know what,
Speaker 1: I already feel like I won. Man, even if I
Speaker 1: get the phone call. I mean, just to be in
Speaker 1: the conversation to me is humbling because you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's an individual award with but it's a team game
Speaker 1: and so and you both know of all the great
Speaker 1: talent we had around me and jt Um during those
Speaker 1: times with Jimmy Johnson, you know, days and and that
Speaker 1: was fun. So for me to get all the credit
Speaker 1: is kind of like, uh, you know, but you know
Speaker 1: I'll take it. You know, how do you how do
Speaker 1: you have you? If you if you if you got
Speaker 1: got a swath of a cloth out to see what
Speaker 1: you look like in in mustard yellow? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I never I never, yeah, I ever do that. And
Speaker 1: that's not me. And that's not really me to be
Speaker 1: out you know me, I get you, I get you
Speaker 1: pain or anything like that. Never, that's not me because
Speaker 1: I feel like, uh, man, the game has been so
Speaker 1: good to me for me to expect anything that it
Speaker 1: owes me something. Man. No, Man, it doesn't know mean nothing.
Speaker 1: It gave me everything. It's from purpose to family to
Speaker 1: just a great life down here, and so I'm very grateful.
Speaker 1: Well it was, Zach. I think much like much like
Speaker 1: your your career with the Miami Dolphins, this this event
Speaker 1: coming up, this super Bowl, or this Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: moment for you, um is much like the way you played.
Speaker 1: You didn't need to talk about it. You just went
Speaker 1: out in the field. You did your job, and you
Speaker 1: did your job as well or better than anybody else.
Speaker 1: You prepared better than than anybody I've ever seen. And
Speaker 1: and so yeah, you you allowed your your game to talk,
Speaker 1: and your game is still talking. I think that's why
Speaker 1: you're on the cusp of the Hall of Fame right now,
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. Well appreciate it because I mean,
Speaker 1: if I deserve to make it, I'll make you play
Speaker 1: simple because the rest is all ego. You know, it's
Speaker 1: it's uh so, And if I don't, I don't, you know,
Speaker 1: But it doesn't take away because you remember Kim when
Speaker 1: I came in as a rookie and ninety six, it's
Speaker 1: just a big meat head. Me and Larry is though,
Speaker 1: it's just like ready to go, you know, we're just
Speaker 1: trying to make the team. I want to make special teams.
Speaker 1: And then, you know, looking back at it, when I
Speaker 1: was eight years old, coming from a small town of Texas, man,
Speaker 1: I never imagined this. You just keep pushing the bar
Speaker 1: higher and higher and higher for me to be in
Speaker 1: the conversation. Man, come on, man, Well you know what, Zach,
Speaker 1: I think it's number one. Remarkable because of the career
Speaker 1: that you had in the type of man and the
Speaker 1: type of person that you are. And everybody knows that,
Speaker 1: uh in South Florida and back in Texas, just by
Speaker 1: the way you handle yourself. But I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you what motivated you the most. I know that there
Speaker 1: were things that you know, in my personal life that
Speaker 1: you had a draw on that you had to continually
Speaker 1: kind of read or look at and and say, that's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. I'm gonna be determined to do it
Speaker 1: this way and this is how, this is what's gonna
Speaker 1: lead me to help my team win. What was the
Speaker 1: most thing that you kind of relied on or or
Speaker 1: tried to maybe recite or think about that motivated you
Speaker 1: to be the best player you could be that would
Speaker 1: ultimately help your team win. Well, because I didn't fit
Speaker 1: the part John Um, I didn't look the park Um.
Speaker 1: That motivated my whole career because even out of high school,
Speaker 1: I was like two time on State and I still
Speaker 1: didn't get but two offers. And then in college two
Speaker 1: time on American went to the Buckets Awards with Kevin
Speaker 1: Hardy ray Lewis and I still go a hundred fifty
Speaker 1: four pick. So for me, I always found it in
Speaker 1: that like I had that chip on my shoulder because
Speaker 1: I knew every one of those seventeen guys that were
Speaker 1: drafted out ahead of me. Of linebackers, I mean, I
Speaker 1: I pretty much. I don't want to sit here and
Speaker 1: name them all, but Kevin Hardy, ray Lewis, Donnie Edwards,
Speaker 1: Steve Conley, Reggie Brown, Teddy Bruski is a good linebacker,
Speaker 1: the Curtis Jones who was before me, Um, say, Reggie Brown,
Speaker 1: personal gas. I knew every one of those guys John
Speaker 1: earlier in my career because I reminded myself man, because
Speaker 1: hey man, I just wanted the opportunity and I got it,
Speaker 1: and I got so lucky to land with Jimmy Johnson too,
Speaker 1: to be able to be in the right system that's
Speaker 1: luck man to be because I could have went to
Speaker 1: any of these three four systems that you know they're
Speaker 1: plugger guys, I would it wouldn't have worked there, um.
Speaker 1: And to be trusted as a rookie to start from
Speaker 1: the get go, come on, man, I was blessed in that.
Speaker 1: So that's a little lucky. You gotta have a little
Speaker 1: luck along the way. But I'm asked for the motivational
Speaker 1: part of it. Man, I was the most motivated guy.
Speaker 1: Motivated guy because I always look for it. Because when
Speaker 1: I played, and I was playing, when I was playing good,
Speaker 1: I'd always pull out clips from what I cut out
Speaker 1: for anybody knocking my game or whatever, just to keep
Speaker 1: me never too coaked. It was always to keep my
Speaker 1: mind set because the game I humble you man, you
Speaker 1: start playing really good, you start your your your prep
Speaker 1: gets lazy, and you yourself. Oh and I never wanted
Speaker 1: to be comfortable. So if I had, you know, kim
Speaker 1: back in the day when I had those busters on
Speaker 1: my mouth, I was playing pretty good at the time
Speaker 1: because I was stressed out. And that's what I love
Speaker 1: because I made stress my friend. You know, hey, Zach,
Speaker 1: you know I Jimmy Johnson. You talked about Jimmy he
Speaker 1: went in uh last week, and I'm sure you saw
Speaker 1: what it was, just an emotional, emotional thing. And I
Speaker 1: know how much Jimmy meant to you, not only because
Speaker 1: he drafted you, um, but talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: Jimmy beyond the getting drafted and beyond you know, you know,
Speaker 1: putting you in there as the start of the first
Speaker 1: week and putting Jack del Rio into coaching business a
Speaker 1: little earlier than he wanted to be in in the
Speaker 1: coaching business. But what was it about playing for Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson that because Jimmy kindie, Jimmy was kind of on
Speaker 1: that customer of the old school new school kind of
Speaker 1: guys where he was still tough. You guys did inside
Speaker 1: drill every day, you did live tackling, You did all
Speaker 1: this too. What was it about Jimmy and his way
Speaker 1: of coaching his team and motivating his players brought the
Speaker 1: best out of you? Well, I owe everything Jimmy, just
Speaker 1: like I said earlier about for the opportunity and even
Speaker 1: drafted me, but just for having all the talent around me.
Speaker 1: But the thing that they always talked about, how he's
Speaker 1: a great talent evaluator. But he was great at motivating too.
Speaker 1: I mean he had what a psychology degree or or
Speaker 1: something in that way, and he would come with all
Speaker 1: these speeches that were very motivating. But Jimmy was a
Speaker 1: guy that when he came in the room, because he
Speaker 1: had that intimidating presence. There's few guys that I've been around,
Speaker 1: like they had pat Riley come into our room to
Speaker 1: talk to us one time, and he has that presence.
Speaker 1: Not too many guys have that presence were you know,
Speaker 1: there's other coaches that everybody was just horsing around when
Speaker 1: they come to the room. When Jimmy came in the room,
Speaker 1: everybody got quiet, and everybody was there in the meeting room.
Speaker 1: It didn't matter if we have a nine o'clock meeting.
Speaker 1: Guys were there at fifty because they knew if everybody
Speaker 1: was there and there was one guy missing, it was
Speaker 1: he was late. Didn't matter if nine o'clock meeting. That
Speaker 1: was Jimmy. Jimmy could look at me and and if
Speaker 1: I wasn't playing so good, he just give me that
Speaker 1: look and he already got the message across those that
Speaker 1: right there. Just special how he can motivate guys he
Speaker 1: knew who the guys to push, who to be harder on.
Speaker 1: But yes, those days of practicing then, Man, I remember
Speaker 1: going live in the middle of the season because we
Speaker 1: weren't practicing hard and tackling to the ground, and I
Speaker 1: think Kareem Adul Jabar got hurt um and I felt
Speaker 1: bad for that because I was on a blitz and
Speaker 1: I hit him. But he didn't even play that week
Speaker 1: because we're going live in practice, you know, so, But yeah,
Speaker 1: Jimmy was the best man. Yeah, Zack, I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you a little bit about the mental side of it.
Speaker 1: Everybody could see the physical traits that you possessed in
Speaker 1: the passion that you played with, but I was hoping
Speaker 1: that you could remember maybe a story or two that
Speaker 1: you're playing in a game and you're calling out a
Speaker 1: play in terms of being able to know exactly where
Speaker 1: that offense is going with the run, with the play action,
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, and that quarterback kind of looks
Speaker 1: at you, like like Jimmy Johnson looked at you when
Speaker 1: he wanted you to turn it up a little bit,
Speaker 1: going that SLB knows exactly where we're going. Well, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. When we I mean, it used to
Speaker 1: be a chess match when we play like a Peyton
Speaker 1: Man or Tom Brady, because those guys always had a
Speaker 1: lot of time when they were in the snap count,
Speaker 1: you know, usually around eighteen seconds through over there seeing
Speaker 1: what we have there and we're disguising and doing all that,
Speaker 1: but then they make a call and how you do adjust?
Speaker 1: How do you adjust, and so that part of it,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm missed all the priest. Snap was my
Speaker 1: favorite part of the game. That's why walk through it
Speaker 1: was more important to me than practice because I'm wasting
Speaker 1: my time if I don't get my alignment right and
Speaker 1: I'm talking about alignment could be one inch, one direction
Speaker 1: or the other my depth, because it was the most
Speaker 1: important for me. It was my alignment and assignment. And
Speaker 1: that's when you win anyways, right Kim, because it usually
Speaker 1: on Monday morning is the coach is telling you what
Speaker 1: you did wrong when you get beat because you beat
Speaker 1: yourself way board and the other team beat you. So
Speaker 1: for me, walk through was my most important thing because
Speaker 1: it was overlooked or what a lot of guys they
Speaker 1: always like horsing around, But that was when I was
Speaker 1: most focused because I felt like I always had a
Speaker 1: live relied on the angles. Never get an offensive alignment,
Speaker 1: a clean angle at me versus different formations, because you know,
Speaker 1: I want the biggest guy, so I always angles was
Speaker 1: important to me. And when they tried to go wide
Speaker 1: to get to me for the perimeter, a lot of
Speaker 1: times they run into Timbo. You don't know why Timbo,
Speaker 1: so they couldn't even get to me. So and then
Speaker 1: when they're trying to get to that angle, they're not
Speaker 1: square on you. You could take them wherever you want. Now,
Speaker 1: if I was to take on the guard and try
Speaker 1: to go man up like even John Offlow used to do,
Speaker 1: I can't do that. That's not me. It's not me.
Speaker 1: I can't do that because I would get mauled. And
Speaker 1: so that was so important to me. Um, I got
Speaker 1: off rambling on your your your question there, John, Sorry,
Speaker 1: But with the whole mindset part of it, like if
Speaker 1: I was to catch a player two during the game,
Speaker 1: it would tell me that I'm in their playbook when
Speaker 1: I really wasn't. And you got to react as a linebacker.
Speaker 1: But before game, before going in the game, and you
Speaker 1: prepped really good. You've got a lot of confidence, man,
Speaker 1: because you know I didn't have all the tangibles with
Speaker 1: the speed or or the size, but I was probably
Speaker 1: the most confident player on the field because of all
Speaker 1: that prep and it was a skill I trained man
Speaker 1: over the years, and that helped me with the anticipation
Speaker 1: and UH and reading the play you touched on, you
Speaker 1: touched on on Tim Bowen's. I had Darryl Gardner, Trace Armstrong,
Speaker 1: Jason Taylor, um Channing, Crowder, Patrick, Sam um Rock Marion.
Speaker 1: I don't know who who are the other safety coming
Speaker 1: in and out was, but you guys, You guys the
Speaker 1: one thing I always enjoyed watching. I enjoyed watching the
Speaker 1: way you guys played, but I also enjoyed watching you
Speaker 1: guys played because I know how close you guys were,
Speaker 1: you know, and had the opportunity play on some on
Speaker 1: some teams where we were just so close that you
Speaker 1: could have nonverbal communication. Guys knew what you're doing. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't even have to say anything. You can look
Speaker 1: in the eye and they knew what you're thinking. And
Speaker 1: I just both on and off the field, I just
Speaker 1: felt like you guys were such a close unit that
Speaker 1: um did it did it made you a really really
Speaker 1: good defense although you had really good individuals. You you
Speaker 1: were better as a unit than you were the individuals
Speaker 1: of that unit. And it was fun. I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: trade that defense for anyone. I mean, you know, it
Speaker 1: was kind of hard at times because you gotta take
Speaker 1: care of yourselves first on defense. Don't worry about what
Speaker 1: the offense is doing, because a lot of times they
Speaker 1: were lied on the defense because at the time it
Speaker 1: was okay to punt. It's never okay to punt, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But for us sometimes we go
Speaker 1: to the sidelines and by the time to get you water,
Speaker 1: they're already calling punt team. And so for guys, because
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If you sit there and go what
Speaker 1: punting already, negativity is already sitting in, You're not You're
Speaker 1: getting out of your mindset, your zone. And you gotta
Speaker 1: take care of yourselves to give yourself the best chance
Speaker 1: to win in that game. And so that's why we
Speaker 1: all had to stay together. And and that's what's good.
Speaker 1: Everybody gave everybody credit. Man look at jat Man first
Speaker 1: ballot deserving and he gave the whole team on especially
Speaker 1: the defense, credit for his induction. And we all feel
Speaker 1: part of that because I was so happy for him,
Speaker 1: because I mean, for one of us to go in,
Speaker 1: it's amazing because it's the best of the best, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: no doubt, he zach. Uh, we appreciate you spending some time.
Speaker 1: We can sit here and talk to you uh forever,
Speaker 1: but UH, I just want to again thank you for
Speaker 1: your time and and and thank you for your career
Speaker 1: and uh you know, lifelong Miami Dolphin and uh you
Speaker 1: know we're we're proud of you and we look forward
Speaker 1: to uh to the good news coming to you this
Speaker 1: week on on Saturday, and can't wait to see you
Speaker 1: uh in the Hall of Fame will be I may
Speaker 1: I may have to you know, I put a uh,
Speaker 1: I put a I said I would never go into
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame until he put Bob Kuchenberg's bust
Speaker 1: in there. I might have to sneak in if they
Speaker 1: put you in there, I may have to go incognito.
Speaker 1: You're not reaching and caged, you know, but I may
Speaker 1: have to go in undercover to see your bust in there.
Speaker 1: But hopefully at one point I can go in and
Speaker 1: see both of you guys in there. But I know,
Speaker 1: I know this is a big week for you, and
Speaker 1: again appreciate your time. And uh, I wish you hey,
Speaker 1: thanks guys. And you know Bob deserves to going the
Speaker 1: rescue peace man. And and you know, for me, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be in Canton this year anyway, win or lose, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: so I'm going out there, so I uh, we gotta
Speaker 1: get you out there, kim So it'd be nice, you know,
Speaker 1: to be added there. Well, i'd be I'd be happy
Speaker 1: to see I have to be happy to see you
Speaker 1: guys go in there because the only way I'm going
Speaker 1: in is with the tickets. So thank you so much, man,
Speaker 1: thank you. Alright, alright, awesome, awesome Jack. You know he's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you talk about a guy, he's certainly deserving
Speaker 1: of Hall of Fame. Um, but just you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you just look at guys and you look
Speaker 1: at the way they carry themselves and look at the
Speaker 1: class and and and that's the one. You know, when
Speaker 1: he came in and I remember when he came in
Speaker 1: with with Larry Iso and they were too you know,
Speaker 1: to just balls of balls of the wall. Guys on
Speaker 1: and off the field, had a good time, played hard,
Speaker 1: played well, did everything well and then to watch him
Speaker 1: continue to grow during both of their careers. But most
Speaker 1: of these accents, Zach stayed here and watched the way
Speaker 1: he handled himself. And you know, one thing I always
Speaker 1: remember about Zach, he he took He he took losses
Speaker 1: as hard as anybody anybody I've I've ever I've ever met.
Speaker 1: And yet you know, I was still doing the still
Speaker 1: going to the locker room getting sound and stuff after
Speaker 1: after games and everything. And no matter how bad the
Speaker 1: loss was, he always stood up. He was there to
Speaker 1: talk and he wasn't shutting anybody down. And no matter
Speaker 1: what question was asked, he answered it, and he answered
Speaker 1: it then, you know, truthfully in the way he felt
Speaker 1: and uh and I think that certainly endeared him to
Speaker 1: a lot of people. And uh and just the way
Speaker 1: he carried himself. You know what he'd be. He's an
Speaker 1: awesome I'd get in the Hall of Fame and he'd
Speaker 1: be another guy who would, uh would represent the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins with a lot of class. He's all about class.
Speaker 1: He's first class. And I just I just wish him
Speaker 1: nothing but the best because the way he played the game,
Speaker 1: with the passion, the intensity and the way guys played
Speaker 1: around him. You know, we talked about Ryan Fitzpatrick this
Speaker 1: year for the Dolphins, and you said, well, what made
Speaker 1: him so good? And I would say, look at the
Speaker 1: way they played around him. Look at the way the
Speaker 1: guys raised their level of of of play on a
Speaker 1: weekly basis just by having him at quarterback. I think
Speaker 1: that's what Zach Thomas meant to that defense. You looked
Speaker 1: and you you watched the level that he played at
Speaker 1: consistently as a member of the Miami Dolphins for all
Speaker 1: those years, and you look around and everybody else was
Speaker 1: at that same level. But I think he was the catalyst.
Speaker 1: He was the guy with the energy. He was the
Speaker 1: guy that we're making all the plays at the biggest
Speaker 1: times of the football game. And there were many of
Speaker 1: those guys on defense. I did that, but I wouldn't say, uh,
Speaker 1: there were that many better than than Zach Thomas. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's funny, we have to We're gonna
Speaker 1: wrap it up here in a second. But uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we had Trace Armstrong last week and and talked to
Speaker 1: Trace about his thoughts on Zach and and and I
Speaker 1: thought he really you know, the one thing he said
Speaker 1: that really resonated with me and always and stayed with
Speaker 1: me was the fact that Zach made the biggest plays
Speaker 1: and the biggest moments of the game, and that, to
Speaker 1: me is one of the things that divides Zack defines Zach. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: All Right, that's gonna do it. We're gonna wrap it up,
Speaker 1: and uh, I got a big super Bowl coming up.
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week. We'll talk about the winner
Speaker 1: of that game. John, real quickly before we go. I'm
Speaker 1: not a big I'm not a big predicting guy, but what,
Speaker 1: how do you see this game? How this game playing out? Boy,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a close one. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be one of those where I think Patrick Mahomes is
Speaker 1: gonna have the football last and I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: find a way to win the game somewhere in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Yeah, you know what I'm I grew up
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area. I was a forty Niner fan
Speaker 1: with the John Brody and you know, Leo Nomlini and
Speaker 1: all Jimmy Johnson and going back to all those guys
Speaker 1: forever and ever and ever. Um So I've got a
Speaker 1: little soft spot in my heart for the forty Niners.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I think i'd like to see
Speaker 1: Andy Reid walk away with a with the Lombardi Trophy
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. So um, I like both teams. I've
Speaker 1: liked both franchises. Uh, it's a star studded super Bowl,
Speaker 1: there's all. You know, there's different styles, there's different guys.
Speaker 1: It really is gonna be. You know, you couldn't ask
Speaker 1: for a better matchup. I was I was dreading. I
Speaker 1: was dreading Tennessee Green Bay. You know, Tennessee Green rolling
Speaker 1: into Miami this week. But but we got the got
Speaker 1: two teams with two teams rest in Red coming in.
Speaker 1: We'll see who comes away. We'll be with the trophy. Yet.
Speaker 1: That's gonna for the audible this week. We'll catch you
Speaker 1: next week. We'll talk about the game afterwards for John
Speaker 1: kN Jammy, I'm kim Bo Camper. Stay safe. We'll see
Speaker 1: you then