WEBVTT - Listener Mail: Vegetable in Sheep's Clothing 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.360 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, production of My 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:10.840 Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.360 Listener mail. This is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick, 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:16.159 and it's Monday, the day of the week that we 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:18.319 read back some of the messages you've sent into the 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:22.400 show recently. Uh, let's see, Rob, if you have no objection, 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:24.560 I think I'm going to jump right in with some 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.520 responses to our Beast War and Apron episodes. These were 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.200 about non human animals doing various things that you might 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:38.480 call cooking. Let's do it, okay, So we've we've gotten 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:42.920 so many responses to those studies about apes and apes 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.519 eating raw potatoes and uh and then people writing in 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:48.680 to say, sometimes I eat raw potatoes, or one time 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:50.360 when I was a kid at church that made me 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:54.040 the whole raw potato or something. Uh So, so Chad 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:58.520 continues the tradition. Chad says, about twenty years ago, I 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.080 worked in h I worked in food service and took 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:04.399 a serve safe class. I still remember the horror stories 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.759 of what can happen if cooked potatoes are not cooled properly, 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:11.240 which can lead to botuli is um. I was unfamiliar 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.920 with the effects of raw potatoes, but a Google search 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.640 indicates they can cause gastro intestinal issues. I'd say, cook 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:21.160 your potatoes and promptly cool any you won't eat right away. 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:23.640 And on this part of the message, I wanted to 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.240 respond by saying, yeah, chat, I was looking into this, 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.360 and what I was reading about the danger of baked 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:33.040 potatoes that haven't been cooled properly was specifically with reference 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:37.360 to those that had been wrapped tightly in aluminum foil, 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:42.800 potentially creating an anaerobic environment that is favorable to bauchuli 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:46.200 is um. So, for example, I found a study in 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.440 the Journal of Infectious Diseases. This was or I guess 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.480 this was a case report called a large outbreak of 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:57.240 bacul is um the hazardous baked potato by Angulo at All. 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.000 So this is tracing an outbreak of baculi is um 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:04.360 happened in April nineteen in El Paso, Texas that was 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:08.399 traced back to a restaurant, and specifically the people who 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:12.160 were affected primarily were those who ate a potato based 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.400 dip or an eggplant based dip. I guess they'd be 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:19.760 baba ganochol probably and the author's right quote. Botulism toxin 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.560 type A was detected from patients, and in both dips, 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:29.399 toxin formation resulted from holding aluminum foil wrapped baked potatoes 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:33.720 at room temperature, apparently for several days before they were 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.680 used in the dips. Consumers should be informed of the 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:40.799 potential hazards caused by holding foil wrapped potatoes at ambient 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:44.600 temperatures after cooking. Uh so, yeah, so I guess they 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.920 baked the potato, but it was tightly wrapped in foil, 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.760 and then they just left it out and uh, didn't 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.960 didn't cool it, and and somehow that created an anaerobic 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.560 environment where the baculinum could thrive or the spores, I guess. 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.240 And uh and yeah, that that's no good. So you 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:03.000 don't want to do that. Now. I was talking about 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:07.239 this with with my mother. Uh And as it turns out, 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.720 I didn't remember this or I'd never noticed this, but 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:16.200 her whole life, whilst preparing to potatoes, she always eats 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:20.360 the ends of the potato raw when slicing up the potatoes. Huh. Yeah, 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:22.640 she just says that that's what I do like to 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.480 do it, just likes them. Okay, Yeah, cool. But then 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.240 one last note, Rob, you you mentioned in a previous 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.480 episode that you were terrified by your your mandolin or 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:34.839 I don't know about terrified. Maybe I'm misrepresenting, but you 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:38.800 you express concerns about the slicing off of your fingertips, 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.880 and Chad comes with a recommendation. He says, as for 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.880 the mandolin, I recommend cut resistant gloves, so they make 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:46.720 it kind of I don't know if it's a chain 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:48.800 male sort of thing for your hand, but you can 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.360 just slice away on the mandolin. It's not going through 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.960 those gloves. You know. I just purchased a pair of 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:57.040 these for my mother, but I didn't even think about 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:58.400 the fact that I could get a pair of these 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:03.920 for myself and have some stress free mandolin usage. Because yeah, 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.200 I still haven't bothered to replace the mandolin with the 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:10.240 safer mandolin. And I'm still just like shredding half a 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.400 carrot and then asking, Hey, who wants to eat this? Uh, 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.200 which often works if if my son is around. Chaz 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.480 is one last thing, which is you might think using 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.919 a glove while using a mandolin as a hassle, but 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.440 I encourage you to take a stab at it. Uh. 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.000 There will be a number of dad jokes in this episode. Actually, 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.440 oh yeah, we did recently rerun that episode. That would 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:37.960 be why Okay, alright, This next one comes to us 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.680 from Amanda. Amanda writes and and says, Hi, Robert and Joe, 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.440 longtime listener here. Stuff About Your Mind was the very 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.239 first podcast I subscribe to, way back in two thousand 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.760 and twelve. Recently, I've been listening during my commute to 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:54.599 and from the International Primate Protection League sanctuary, where I 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:58.520 work as a caregiver for thirty white handed gibbons. I 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.359 was pleased to hear gibbons come up in the episode 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:04.599 The Beast Warren Apron. I've never observed the water cupping 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.919 behavior you mentioned, but they sometimes dip the backs of 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.240 their hands in water and then suck it from their fur. 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.360 I have read that wild gibbons rarely descend to the 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:16.880 ground and instead drink the water that collects in their 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:21.200 hairs as they swing through the dewey forest. Gross. No, 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:24.240 I don't know if it sounds kind of I mean, 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:27.480 the the the dewey, it's you know, it's it's it's 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:31.240 it's fine, It's fine. Okay, next time you're thirsty, just 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.679 wait till you know you get out of the shower 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:37.280 and then wring your hair out into your mouth. Delicious 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:42.320 all right? Anyway, they continue on the cooked versus raw question. 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.960 Our Gibbons love cooked sweet potato. They are offered it 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.039 as part of their breakfast each morning, and it is 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.200 usually the first item they pluck from their bucket of 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:55.680 mostly raw veggies and brows. Uh. They also prefer their 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.840 beats cooked, and some are willing to try healthy muffins, quiche's, 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.880 and other baked goods. If you do decide to do 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.560 an episode on frozen foods, I can also confirm that 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:10.719 Gibbons eat banana popsicles. One unpopular prepared food item among 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:14.120 Gibbons is jello. Many fail to recognize it as food. 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:18.080 Some are even afraid of its jiggling novelty MAUI are 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:21.720 greediest Gibbon who has earned the nickname the cookie Monster. 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.880 Fled to a high platform the first time I placed 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:30.040 a cube beside his lunch bucket. I love this. I've 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:33.120 attached the video of Nicholas with his morning sweet potato. 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.400 Like us, Gibbons think that it's rude to video others 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.839 while they're eating. You can see more videos of Gibbons 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:42.680 eating things um on the I p p L Instagram 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:46.359 and that is I p p L Underscore Summerville. So 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.400 I checked out this video and uh, Nicholas the given 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:52.520 here he's eating a cooked sweet potato and he's peeling 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.960 the skin back. It looks like like he's eating the 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:58.599 orange flesh and then the the skin is hanging around 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.240 the outside like a candy bar rapper peeled back. So 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.320 I wonder do they eventually eat the scan or do 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.720 they throw it away? Interesting? Well, thanks for writing in. 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:08.760 That was all that was. That was That was wonderful. 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.720 I know so much more about gibbons now. Yeah, great email, 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:18.960 Thank you, Amanda. All right, should we move on to 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.360 some responses to the vegetable lamb of Tartari. Let's do 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.520 it all right, Let's see here. This one was from 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:29.000 This is from James. James says, Hi, guys, love the podcast. 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.600 I've been listening since the early days. Regarding cobwebs, they 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.640 really do work. This was an aside in the episode 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:39.480 about the traditional remedy of people trying to staunch bleeding 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:43.120 from wounds by cramming it with cobwebs. James says, my 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.880 grandfather grew up in the slums of Glasgow in the 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.239 thirties and forties and that was all they used on cuts. 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.520 He taught me how to use that and plantain the 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.520 lawn weed, not the banana to stop bleeding when I 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.680 was young. You put a bit on a cut and 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.800 it coagulates and or a minute. Having taken a bit 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.880 of organic chemistry, my guess is it bonds to the 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:09.200 protein fibroles that form in clotting blood and ties them 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:12.640 together into a solid mass much more quickly. Not sure 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.120 if any study has been done, but studies have been 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.600 done on using plantain to clot blood. It contains an 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:22.440 enzyme that accelerates plotting, and I can personally say cobwebs 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.840 are faster. Not a good sample size, but it's very noticeable. 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:30.400 A great input, James, Thank you. James also says on 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.200 the topic of lab grown meat, a friend of mine 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.600 mentioned and aspect of it that you didn't touch on. 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.040 If you can grow lion meat, you can grow human meat. 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.680 Hear me out. I have no desire to be a cannibal, 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:43.680 but how long do you think it would be before 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:48.080 some Hollywood star decided to culture a tissue sample and 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:52.560 sell steaks seems far fetched, but Nicholas Cage would totally 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:56.240 do it. Oh yeah, come on a Cage steak. Yeah. Anyway, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.520 keep it up, love the show and really love weird 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:02.160 how Cinema cheers James. Well, yeah, that's that's a lot 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.440 to think about what happens when we get into the 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:10.960 realm of of of cultured human meat and then celebrity 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.679 human meat that has been cultured. Um. Yeah, I mean 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.760 this guy's the limit, right, Who's the most delicious celebrity 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.120 human I mean maybe it's Nicolas Cage. I don't know. 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.400 I guess you would. I don't know. I guess you 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:26.480 want I'm trying to think about some the logic of 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.480 of of meat. I guess you want good marbling. You know, 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.400 want good marbling. I guess you don't want an actor 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.480 who's giving a lot of really energetic performances like Cage though, 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:39.120 because he's going to be stringy. Right, Yeah that could 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.600 be ye, it could be a like you don't want 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:45.440 a high stress level uh actor, you want somebody who's good, 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.440 low energy performer. Rob and I have just been several 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.880 minutes trying to look up character actors. Who's whose body's 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.080 cultures of whose bodies we would apparently, But then, like 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.560 everybody we look up, we find out tragically died and 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.160 we didn't realize it or died, you know, of of 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:05.280 old age. These guys were cold up in years, so 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:14.680 anyway that it remains an open discussion, all right. Here's 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.000 another one that comes to us from Albert, Hi, Robert, 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.000 and Joe. Once you started describing the Lamb of Tartary, 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:24.120 my D and D mind immediately remembered wolf in sheep's clothing, 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:28.079 a carnivorous plant monster that lures its victims to it 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.720 by presenting a part of itself that resembles a bunny rabbit. 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.640 You can search for images of it, but here is 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.600 a link to the lore No mention of whether Guy 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:42.080 GaX Gary guy GaX was inspired by the Lamb of Tartary. 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.040 Thanks and keep up the good work, Albert Well. I 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.559 dug up some illustrations for you to look at here. Rob. 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:51.120 They generally involved like a stump that has a big 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.679 toothy mouth hidden in it, and then a bunny or 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:58.240 a squirrel on top, maybe some kind of root like tentacles. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.360 it looks pretty cool, I have to say, I'm a 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.200 little disappointed I haven't seen this before. Um, I wasn't 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.640 familiar with this monster, and looking into it a little 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:08.800 bit more, it seems this could be because it was 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.880 apparently introduced in the nine eight Adventure Expedition to the 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.679 Barrier Peaks, which I don't know at all, and that 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.920 it was reprinted in Three's Monster Manual two, which I 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.280 also didn't have any exposure too. And if I'm reading 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:25.439 everything correctly, I do not think this monster has been 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:28.520 published in an official D n D product since then, 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.480 So that's probably why I've never seen it though. Um 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.200 though even if it had come out, and there are 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:37.719 some additions like basically I I played a D and 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:42.040 D second edition, I guess, and then I played fifth edition, 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.599 so uh, there's there's plenty of room for it to 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.400 have appeared and just to be completely off of my 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.439 D n D radar. But it's a cool creature and 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.760 I would I would love to encounter it. The second 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.680 image that you included, and this one looks more recent 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.800 and maybe this is something tied to a homebrew sort 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.120 of thing, but in this one it is a squirrel 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:06.839 atop the deadly threatening mod stump. So what's the The 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.840 idea is that your heroes would be like, look a squirrel, 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.360 let's approach it with our guard down. I guess. So 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.520 maybe that's why it hasn't popped up as much, because 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.600 it reminds one of the mimic, which is a great 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.160 d n D monster, and you know, has expanded beyond 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.360 d n D, which is of course this thing that 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.880 looks like a treasure chest and then when you get 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.679 close to it or you open it, uh, it's filled 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.080 with teeth because it's a monster that wants to trick 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:30.959 you into getting close enough to the treasure chests that 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.400 it eats you. And you know that's very it's poetic 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.400 because it's like, oh, your your greed brings you in 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.280 close to the monster's mall. And it's a fun looking 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:42.000 monster as well. Uh, simple design, every everything works with it, 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.959 but with this, Yeah, like, what's what's the deal? I 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.240 guess If your characters are hungry enough to want to 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.720 eat that squirrel or that rabbit, then it than it works. 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.680 But otherwise, yeah, you just like we could pass these 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:56.760 by all the day, all the time in the real world, 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.640 and we're just not interested in catching bunny rabbit a 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:09.520 at squirrel. Okay, now the next message, I gotta warn 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.160 you we got some dad jokes ahead. But this is uh, 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.280 this is from Mark, and Mark says, Dear Joe, Robert 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.880 and Seth. He begins with some nice comments about the podcast, 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.120 but says, you know, I can't believe you would say 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.240 something so ignorant as what you said in the Vegetable 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.079 Lamb of Tartarie episode, which is that you know there 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.680 are no plants that grow animals out of them. There's 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.880 no such thing as a plant animal combination. And he 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.480 goes on to say, I submit the following list a 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:39.240 partial list. I assure you have actual organisms offering literal 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.920 proof that plants and animals have indeed combined. Have you 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:47.240 considered the gooseberry, the fruit bat, the eggplant, the cabbage worm, 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:51.160 the pig nut, the wood tick, the cow pea, the 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:55.440 dog would, the cat mint, the chickweed, the shad bush, 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:59.160 the buckwheat, the bird lime, the fruit fly, and the 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.520 crab grass us. Mark, I admit it. I was wrong. 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.520 I stayed corrected. Mark. Mark really had me here with 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:08.560 this this email because it was it was a real 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.120 roller coaster because I started reading it and I answered 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:12.600 it was like, Oh my goodness, what would we get wrong? 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.360 We messed something up. Now we got to correct it. 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.199 And and then I quick then I realized, oh, it 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.520 is a joke. It is a joke. He got me. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:22.760 me too. I read the beginning and I was like, oh, 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:26.440 do we screw something up? Okay, well, thank you Mark. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.520 Oh and maybe while we around the subject of dad jokes, 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.200 I'll move on to this next email. We got a 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:42.640 response from our listener Anna on the dad Joke episode. 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.640 I'll just read a couple of the jokes she includes 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.000 in this message. The first one she says, I have 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.760 to set up by saying, I enjoy your passing mentions 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:55.560 of the book Jane Eyre in the movie Wuthering Heights. Question, 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.040 what do you call a dinosaur that gets lost on 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.880 the Yorkshire Moors? Don't know? What do you call a 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.600 dinosaur that gets lost in the Orcshire Moors? It's a 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:08.240 bronte saurus. And the second one is why are mountains 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:14.520 funny because their hill areas? Oh? That one hurt, that one, 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:25.880 that one cut deep. Thank you Anna. Okay. This next 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.800 message we're gonna look at was in response to older 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.000 episodes we did on the Arc of the Covenant. That 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.040 was a bit of background to explain this message. In 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.480 those episodes, we talked about stories of the arc in 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.400 the Hebrew Bible and elsewhere, and at some point we 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:44.080 discussed this bizarre idea that some professor published in a 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:47.640 newspaper in the nineteen thirties that the Arc of the 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:52.960 Covenant did exist but was actually an electrical condenser, and 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:57.360 that Moses was a was a skilled electrician. Suffice to say, 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.560 there is there is no real evidence that this is 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.600 actually at the Ark of the Covenant story is about. 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:05.040 I would say this explanation is just operating on the 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.560 ancient aliens principle. You know. It's what if when a 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.440 story describes some magical event from the ancient world, it 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.560 did actually happen, but it was caused by aliens or 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:18.720 by anachronistic future technology. So in this case, it would 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.160 be when the arc, you know, strikes someone dead for 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.800 touching it, or or kills them with a tongue of 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.680 flame for approaching in the wrong way, it must have 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:29.920 actually been because this was an electrical condenser and they 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.640 got ten thousand volts of static electricity and so forth, 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.320 which is certainly a fun game to play, not a 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.160 very good way to get an accurate understanding of ancient literature. 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:42.360 But Lex gets in touch about these episodes. Starts off 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.160 by saying some nice things about the show and then 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.360 goes on with the message Rob, Rob, do you want 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.920 to read this one? Sure? Lex writes, I recently listened 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.120 to some old episodes and love your discussion of the 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.800 arc of the Covenant in your episode from However, I 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:58.800 did not want to write in about an episode that 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:02.040 was recorded over three years ago and last aired in 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.679 twenty nine. However, you mentioned Raiders of the Lost arc 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.600 in your recent Weird House episode on the Devil Rides Out, 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:12.440 so that felt like that was my chance. I especially 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.960 loved part two of the episode, focused on the Electric arc. 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.520 It instantly reminded me of one of my favorite songs 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.440 of late It's called Mercy Seat by Nick Cave and 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.760 the Bad Seeds. But you only should listen to the 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.760 live version that I have linked below, because the studio 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.000 version is inferior. I was not familiar with this song. 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.560 Were you were you? Joe? Oh? Yeah? Uh? And I 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:35.720 looked up this live version. This is this is a 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:39.000 great song. Uh. And I've never noticed the connection that 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:42.040 you're about to make here, Lex, But this is wonderful, Rob. 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.080 You should click on the link and and listen to 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.840 it when you get a chance. Alex continues. The song 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.920 is called Mercy Seat in reference to the Arc, but 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.000 it's primarily about an inmate waiting to be executed in 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.640 an electric chair. I thought that this was fantastic given 0:17:56.680 --> 0:18:00.399 the sometimes electric origin of the alien fire coming from 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.440 the Ark of the Covenant. But I can't help but 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.600 wonder if Nick Cave was exposed to and contemplated this 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:09.720 mythology when writing the song. It certainly incorporates some other 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.399 religious themes. Either way, I find the song to be 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.200 chilling and emotional and everyone should give it a listen. 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:18.600 Johnny Cash also covered the song on his album American 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.640 Three Solitary Man, which I think you have talked about 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:26.320 on the show. Thanks for always giving me such great content, Lex, Well, 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.440 I definitely, yeah, I've definitely listened to that album. So 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.280 I have heard a cover of this song before. I 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:33.959 just have I'm blanking on it. Oh yeah, okay, well, 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.600 it's it's an excellent song. So Mercy Seed, of course, 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.480 is the the traditional name for the top of the 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.040 Ark of the Covenant the Lid, where it is described 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.399 as the the angels with their wings outstretched towards the 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.119 center of the the arc lid, but also as a 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:53.120 euphemism for the electric chair. And uh, I never would 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.000 have noticed this connection that like these weird bronze punk 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.560 theories of the electric arc being the the uniting theme. 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.960 So excellent catch, Lex And I have to say, I don't. 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:06.160 I don't think three years is too old of an episode. 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.720 Now right in about whatever you want. If it's really 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.040 old and we're going to feature it, we we might 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.159 do like a refresher at the top of your message. 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:21.719 It's no big deal, alright. This next message was about 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.000 our episodes on the three pupil die. Uh. And this 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.280 is from Josh warning this email describes an eye injury. 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.879 But it uh, it's it does actually connect to a 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:34.160 condition that we talked about in the episode of polychoria 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.760 or pseudo polychoria, where it appears that a person has 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:41.520 more than one pupil in their iris or in the 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.560 same iris. And so Josh says, Hi, all when I 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:48.760 was in middle and high school, air soft was very popular. 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.200 If you aren't familiar, there are low power guns that 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.360 shoot plastic bbs about the size of a pencil eraser. 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:58.600 A particularly popular activity was having air soft wars, which 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.200 were similar to paintball, but with less of a mess. 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:05.119 Of course, an essential piece of equipment was safety glasses. 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.240 On one occasion, a member of my church congregation was 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:12.560 engaging in such an air software without safety glasses. There 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:14.800 was a Murphy's Law moment when he was hit in 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.520 the eye. I wasn't there, so I don't know the 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:19.800 full story, but after a couple of months with an 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.639 eye patch, he revealed that a small portion of his 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:26.840 iris had detached, leaving him with a second pupil. I 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.320 think he said it did blur his vision a bit 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:31.840 in that eye. That goes to show how fragile the 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.199 eyes can be in comparison to pretty much every other 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:36.920 part of the body. On a less gross note, the 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:39.320 last time I wrote in you read my message on 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:42.440 the podcast. Shortly after it dropped, I got a text 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.240 from my mom asking if I had written in. I 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:48.080 had no idea she listened. This was the second podcast 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.600 that something similar to this happened. Keep up the great work, Josh. 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:56.960 What was the other podcast? I mean, I I just 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.760 love that Josh's mom is keeping such good tabs on. 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:03.560 You know, I don't remember what this message was, Josh, 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:05.240 So so I don't know what you're talking about, but 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.159 I guess your mom knows you well. Yeah, yeah, and 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:11.200 it's speaking of which you know. It goes without saying 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.479 I would hope, but I'll go and say it. If 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:15.399 if there's something you want to write in to us 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:17.560 about and there's something you don't want, if you don't 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.159 want it Red on the air, just say it. Just 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:22.960 just let us know. Or if there's a portion of 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.320 it you don't on Red on the Air, Uh, just 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:27.159 let us know and we can we can do that 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.320 so in the future, Josh, we can keep your mom 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:34.520 out of this entirely. Also shout out to Josh's mom. Yeah, 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:42.959 all right, here's another one. This one comes to us. 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:47.239 This is a from a Vault episode on carnivorous plants, Uh, 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:50.399 which is timely. We're just doing some some a lot 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.680 of plant content recently. Jeremy writes in and says hello, 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:56.560 Joe and Robert. Jeremy begins by saying he's been listening 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.040 to some older episodes, including the Carnivorous Plant. It's the 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:05.040 episode that aired in and reran Um, which that's interesting. 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.200 We usually don't that's that correct, We usually don't do 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:12.200 reruns like that, but I trust him. Anyway, it was 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:15.840