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Speaker 3: Both things in the home for things that tell you

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Speaker 1: Ding dong on the bell. But the party is swell.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, we aren't lyricists like our guests.

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Speaker 3: But I I'm always saying these days, take me to

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Speaker 2: And you're always saying that, all wanting to make turn

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Speaker 2: me into got me bad Honey. I want to be summer.

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Speaker 3: It's the summer. I want to be a crane up

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Speaker 2: But this is actually a huge day. You know, our

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Speaker 2: guests will never remember this, but we met a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago at the Elton John after Oscar party

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Speaker 2: taking a while. This is not to shade the event, No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: it's a packed part. It's a good time. This moment

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Speaker 2: it was taking a second, and our guest, as a joke,

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Speaker 1: And she smiled and laughed a star's smile and last

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Speaker 2: And here she is. Have you met our guest?

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Speaker 3: I have not had the pleasure well, and this is

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Speaker 3: very very cool. You figure, well, we'll tell you. We'll

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Speaker 3: she is coming out with a new music thing Goodness.

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Speaker 2: On tour, the Freedom Tour.

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Speaker 3: Freedom Tour period CEO of Kesher Records.

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Speaker 1: There you got.

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Speaker 1: We're so happy she's here. Everyone welcome.

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Speaker 2: We've been waiting for this day.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, same truly, I'm very excited.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of this champagne moment?

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Speaker 4: That sounds right, It sounds about right and back.

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Speaker 2: It was taking long enough where you would have been

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Speaker 4: I mean that sounds my right, that's my right.

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Speaker 3: But like these these bartenders, come on, I love them,

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Speaker 3: the eye contact they are strategically withholding. Of course they

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Speaker 3: you make of us repeating ear lyrics?

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Speaker 1: Becky, are you like?

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Speaker 4: I live for that? Okay, that is why I do this.

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Speaker 4: People quote me to me. Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 3: See, thank God for you, because they're some people out

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Speaker 4: I do pop songs. I was just late a show

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Speaker 4: You know what that does for me? I actually can

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Speaker 3: I just before I before the chance escapes me Like

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Speaker 3: I'm the dance commander. I command you to dance. Is

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Speaker 3: one of the greatest remix albums of all time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you or just remix EPs? What would you call that?

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Speaker 4: I just was a dance commander.

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Speaker 3: Me because fuck him, he's a DJ is a text

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Speaker 4: Honestly, yes, oh my god, making that song with my

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Speaker 4: We love boots and we love boys and fine and.

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Speaker 2: You have a great bee trilogy there with Bloo. So

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Speaker 4: The plosives? Is that a word like when you say

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 6: I know?

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Speaker 2: Screen, Yeah, you are stalking it?

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Speaker 4: Why do you think I love people dressing like me?

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Speaker 4: The bees and the peace.

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Speaker 4: Like not much? Like I still kind of want to

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Speaker 2: Like just be an animal as you as it were.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it was meet each other.

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Speaker 1: We met, so this is what we wanted to tell you?

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Speaker 4: Do you tell me?

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Speaker 2: Yes? You your lore?

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Speaker 3: So Matt and I me in college and then we

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Speaker 1: We were like, who is this?

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Speaker 2: They were sort of like they were like, you're gay,

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Speaker 6: Like I'm still hung o you right, truly, Like, but

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Speaker 6: there was like so much joy in your music and

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Speaker 2: It's like I remember you played Webster Hall, like this

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Speaker 2: then fast forward to all these years later. I just

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Speaker 4: That makes me like almost I'm not gonna cry, but

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Speaker 1: That's worse it does. I mean you basically are a

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Speaker 3: But can I proposed to the missing piece? Yes, I'm

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Speaker 3: like buy the things if you want to sell like artisanal, like.

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Speaker 1: All of oil, all of oil.

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Speaker 3: It sprouts, but Kesha if it's a Kesha's olive oil.

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Speaker 3: If you have one item that's like the smoothie for

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Speaker 1: At the grocery store. People were like, well, I went

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Speaker 4: I actually have been thinking about trying to get Kesha

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Speaker 4: flavored ramen like this. I think about this like seven

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Speaker 4: eleven kesha editions like.

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Speaker 1: Japanese seven eleven, But like, what's the what's the ramen?

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Speaker 4: Tell us, well, what it would taste like, Let's put

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Speaker 4: some like pop rocks in that room. Make it sparkle

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Speaker 4: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's maybe it's I don't know, blue rosy like

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Speaker 4: Like maybe it's blue.

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Speaker 3: it's gonna blue ramen hot ice cream whatever?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Do you know what the

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Speaker 4: I did, Okay, this is what I heard about, but

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Speaker 3: It's to my knowledge, it's like a it's like a

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Speaker 3: chocolate shape or it's like it's like it's like a

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Speaker 2: I'm into it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I just think whatever you make should have okay, not no,

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Speaker 2: They're very This is not these aren't just garments treasures.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how am I supposed to? And now?

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Speaker 8: The ding you up a grocery store.

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Speaker 4: I thought about Robin. We're talking about pop rocks. And

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we just know whatever it is, it's gonna be great.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be great.

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Speaker 2: Well, before we started, I just to like bring back

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Speaker 4: I think I just like, I don't want to go

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Speaker 4: this almost like a nihilism in me because I have

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Speaker 4: Whoa which like depending on what anybody believes, Like, I've

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Speaker 2: No literally, wait, what's your son? So can't so I'm

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Speaker 2: Piscy sun Pisces day, March.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah we're right here.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what are you sign?

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Speaker 4: Spicy? A little sexy?

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Speaker 3: The rest of my chart is kind of all over

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Speaker 2: Sorry to cut you off. You were, you were in

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Speaker 1: Don't remember. But it was great, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Then the people telling you over time that this is

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Speaker 4: Oh but so this whole time, I've been like, I

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Speaker 4: But I also am like, we kind of have to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there, we can't take it too seriously, like

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Speaker 4: Literally, I have the world tattooed on me twice twice

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Speaker 4: where a one here next to the dead fish I

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Speaker 4: And Bob the drag Queen. Everything we had to talk

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Speaker 2: Why did we miss the Kesha?

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Speaker 4: Honestly, it was a major fuck up.

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Speaker 1: Wait where where'd you guys? Pour?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 4: I'm dating the world, dating the whole wide world, and

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so different people like who are these like astrologers, psychics? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: Yes, I have had multiple people on totally separate, not

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Speaker 4: The past lives?

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Speaker 1: Do you know about them?

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Speaker 4: I definitely have been a man and a woman in

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Speaker 4: Totally. I think it's just being fully sovereign and really

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Speaker 4: Past I don't know, two years. And it took me

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Speaker 4: Totally and exploited. Yeah, and that experience has made me

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Speaker 4: I have so much appreciation and protection for myself. So

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00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 4: but it took a lot of like healing to get

450
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 4: to this point where I'm actually quite grateful to know

451
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 4: how strong I am.

452
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like what is like what does it mean for

453
00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 3: you emotionally? I guess like that you have the rights

454
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 3: to everything, Like, like what does that mean emotionally for

455
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 3: you to look back on like the like the first

456
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 3: few albums, Well it was.

457
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 4: It was such a It's like confusing a little bit

458
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 4: because I didn't have the rights to something that comes

459
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 4: from inside of my body. It's like how we as

460
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 4: humans express ourselves. Very odd and growing up being so spiritual,

461
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 4: it's just always kind of messed with my head, the

462
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 4: spiritual side of it, Like it didn't make sense to

463
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 4: not have the rights to oneself. So I think it's

464
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 4: looking back, I have so much love for my younger self,

465
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 4: Like I see pictures of myself with like, oh my god,

466
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 4: some of these outfit choices, some of the outfit Oh

467
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 4: my god, she was amazed, Like she was so fearless. Yes,

468
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 4: she was so fearless. People tell me stories about the way,

469
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 4: Like my friend Bob Ezrin, who is a producer that

470
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 4: worked on Pink Floyd the Wall Iconic album. He came

471
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 4: to my show a couple nights ago and he's like,

472
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 4: do you remember when he was doing a panel with

473
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 4: Lou Reed I, also icon and somebody heckled him and

474
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 4: apparently I stood up and said get the fuck out

475
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 4: of here. Yes, yes, and I was like damn, And

476
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 4: I was like twenty yeah, it's so Countie.

477
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: But and thirty year old you probably hedges because you know,

478
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 2: like there's an awareness of what might come as a result.

479
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: But we hope to be the person that can just

480
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 2: stand up and speak truth to power. Yes, and you've

481
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: had this insane experience where it's not just you going

482
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 2: through it, but then it becomes like a true movement,

483
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 2: and that is it's really empowering, but it's also I

484
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: would imagine a little bit dysmorphic, because you're like, how

485
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 2: did it become this to begin with? Which makes every

486
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: emotion very confusing.

487
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 4: I think that speaking back to like, we all reflect

488
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 4: each other's experiences, and as an artist and as a woman,

489
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 4: I don't think that I'm alone in what I've experienced,

490
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 4: and I'm sorry that others have experienced the negative things

491
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 4: that I can relate to, Like that doesn't make me

492
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 4: feel good, but we have each other and that's what

493
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,239
Speaker 4: gives us all courage is when people can stand up

494
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 4: and say like, I'm not alone, You're not alone, And

495
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 4: that's what actually produces social change, is enough people getting

496
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: fed up with the way a system is working. So

497
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 4: but I look back at my younger self and I'm like,

498
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 4: what about us? Like I could not listen to the

499
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 4: album Warrior for a long time and are now I'm

500
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 4: like obsessed with me?

501
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: Got oh my god? Where you are?

502
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 4: Bit just like some of those songs like Warrior, I'm

503
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: singing about this same shit I talk about every night

504
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 4: in my show. I'm like, why was I so scared

505
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 4: to listen to this? Girl? Was just like young and

506
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 4: going through shit and being a badass and standing up

507
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 4: for her community. And she's been doing it the whole

508
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 4: damn time. Like, what are you so scared of?

509
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: Is crazy Kids on Warriors?

510
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,479
Speaker 4: I love Crazy Kids that one too. Yeah, I had to,

511
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 4: like I had to do healing work with her, Like

512
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 4: there were emotions that would come up when I would

513
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 4: listen to certain songs, yeah, because of my own personal experience,

514
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,479
Speaker 4: and so then I couldn't really face them publicly because

515
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 4: it felt really weird to like play a song it

516
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 4: just like hurt.

517
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

518
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the way you circumvented and it wasn't even circumventioned.

519
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: I think you were very direct about it in the

520
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 3: way that you could have been. But like with gag Order,

521
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, that's genius. I hope you understand that.

522
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: Like you you were singing about the thing that you

523
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: weren't allowed to sing about, but you made it the

524
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 3: whole whole theme of the album. Like it's like, I

525
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: don't think any artist has really had to like think

526
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: of it though, or has been able to like really

527
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 3: be so declarative I mature about Like I hope you

528
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: love that girl too, Oh my god?

529
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 1: She Yeah, she is amazing, amazing.

530
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that was so like meta and like

531
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 4: quite frankly very it was a weird time making an

532
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 4: album about a thing I couldn't talk about it while

533
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 4: getting ready to go deal with that on a world stage.

534
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 4: Like it was so almost meta, yes, and it felt

535
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 4: so beautiful to have this collaborator, yeah fucking Rick Ruben.

536
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god.

537
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 4: To be like like Jedi, I'm gonna go into this

538
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 4: with you know what a beautiful time. And that performed

539
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 4: so badly. That album performed on the charts so poorly,

540
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 4: huh that it led to my freedom tell me what

541
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 4: that spiritual arc of the story is? Like, well, you

542
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: never know what your failures actually what like the universe

543
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 4: is doing for you. You really don't know what your

544
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 4: story is doing for you. Like at the time, I

545
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 4: was like, that's so interesting. Like every album I'd put

546
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 4: up before that, I'd been like a top ten and

547
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 4: then this came out and I was like, oh damn.

548
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: Like I didn't think everyone liked it as much as TikTok,

549
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 4: but like really big difference. But I always loved the

550
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: album and I loved the process of.

551
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: Making it, which makes it worth it.

552
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 4: Oh, I was like, if people don't get it quite frankly, like.

553
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: It's so good.

554
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's different with like Rainbow though, because that

555
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 3: was also similarly like you were saying about the thing

556
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: that you can sing about, but it was performing well

557
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: and I fucking love that.

558
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 4: I loved that one too. She was just like she

559
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 4: was like a little Rainbow, don't let the bastards get

560
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 4: don't let get you down, just like.

561
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: The Rick Rubin of it all. I feel like a

562
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: lot of artists have talked about finding new parts of

563
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 2: their voice with him, like Adele has talked about like

564
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 2: when she worked with him on thirty Yeah, on twenty

565
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: one even way way like she knows she could hit

566
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: the notes in not so far to the ring, rolling

567
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: in the deep and all of a sudden, like his encouragement,

568
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: just like talking about did he do praying No.

569
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 4: That was Ryan Lewis, Yeah, Ryan Lewis, he wow, he

570
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 4: maybe did go ahead finish your story.

571
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying, like, just you because you were

572
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: sort of synonymous with a very pop sound and like

573
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: the sing talking that you were doing, but then to

574
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: hear you really sing and use your voice, I was

575
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: just wondering because you always were, but then suddenly there

576
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: was that moment in praying where there's that cathartic scream,

577
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: like that primal note that you were doing, which I

578
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: think got you that Grammy nomination, which had to feel

579
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: good to finally get like that from them totally, but

580
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,719
Speaker 2: just discovering and like traversing everything you had to go

581
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: through and finding you like so much more in your

582
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: vocal I wonder about that process.

583
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: Well that was and I do think everything is like

584
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 4: not to sound too much like a hippie, but everything

585
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 4: is energy and when you have I'll speak for myself.

586
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 4: When I was coming from a place that was not

587
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 4: really encouraging me to be in my power and to

588
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 4: take credit for my wins, and then to be in

589
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 4: a room with Ryan Lewis who was like, you're amazing,

590
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 4: you can hit the out, you can do it. What

591
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: that did for my vocal range, I think it jumped

592
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 4: like too octaves with just what being around the right

593
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 4: kind of person did for me. And I've taken that

594
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 4: on with the rest of my life since that moment.

595
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: That changed my life because very li I will not

596
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 4: be around people that try to bring me down, that

597
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 4: try to feed negativity like I have to be around

598
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 4: people that want to like love and support each other

599
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: and see each other win. I think who we surround

600
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 4: ourselves with is really important everything and should like be

601
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 4: giving you love and like really wanting to see you win.

602
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 4: It's really important and I learned that from that session.

603
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: Wow, it felt like everyone who loves you and following you,

604
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: we all had an experience when you released that. Me

605
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: too did feel very spiritual.

606
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 4: It felt it was so smuch and the.

607
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: Song being called praying, like I'm sure that was an

608
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: intentional thing. It was like, we're going to release it

609
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: in this moment, and the best to seeing when when

610
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: we see you live, like people doing their version of it.

611
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you should see the videos on my

612
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 4: story right now. Last night they were so loud, like

613
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 4: you can't even hear me singing. I think it's very

614
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 4: cathartic for a lot of people that come to my show,

615
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: which like it's such an intense moment. Yeah, it's really fun.

616
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: Well, everyone is speaking to the person that that that

617
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: felt like the weight in their life, Like everyone is

618
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: speaking to that person, whether it's like an x or

619
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: or an ex boss or like a current situation like

620
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: I feel like that song does get permission. I would

621
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: say that's like a top three cast a song for me.

622
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: Really yeah, absolutely, like it's just just because of and

623
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: now even more so now that you say that.

624
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 4: It was a really special time because I remember always

625
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 4: thinking I can't do much, but I can sing. And

626
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: then after my first album came out and I like

627
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 4: people were just saying I couldn't actually sing, and I

628
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 4: was like wait, wait, wait, I was just using, we're

629
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 4: just having fun, you can actually sing, yeah, And then

630
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 4: Praying was I feel like the first time that people

631
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: were like, oh damn, yeah, she can sing a little bit.

632
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: Yes, well, and the singing thing.

633
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: Is like, as someone who can't really sing that well,

634
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: don't do that, and like I think it's overrated. No,

635
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 3: but I think with you, I think with you, like

636
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: so we so man. I used to be in this

637
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: musical sketch group, which is yes, exactly perfect timing comes, yes,

638
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: I mean you could hear that drop and smaller.

639
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: But I believe.

640
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: But like so it's all these comedy songs whatever, like

641
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: we're you know, doing it. And then you know, we

642
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: had this concert at Union Hall, this like wonderful small

643
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: venue in Park Slope, but like we were like, let's

644
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: just sing like one song for real, and like let's

645
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: just sing the ship out of it.

646
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there was nine of us, just a big group,

647
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: and we all were.

648
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 3: Like, you know what, like, you know what is a

649
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: great song that like maps lyrically onto this thing that

650
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 3: is basically built like a sketch. Is Your Love Is

651
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: My Drug?

652
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: Just every just lyrically every line, every line is genius.

653
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: I used to teach. I used to teach musical comedy writing,

654
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: sketch comedy writing, and because actually sketch comedy and pop

655
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: music really walk hand in hand. And in order to

656
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: show like a perfect pop song, I would show, we

657
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: would listen to Your Love as My Drug and we

658
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: would talk about how it how it maps and just

659
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: like you know, the first verse you're introducing and exploring

660
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: an idea, and the chorus will land the game, and

661
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: then the second verse like like explores that idea further,

662
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: you land the game harder, and it's just like it

663
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: was like again, formative, and we had so much fun

664
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: singing at nine people breaking up different parts of the song.

665
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, is there a video of this?

666
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: I love not sharing.

667
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Speaker 2: I never said that. I just said it was good. Well,

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Speaker 2: speaking of this is me, let's hear this is you.

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Speaker 2: We have to ask you the question, Kesha, the central

709
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: question of our podcast, which is what was the culture

710
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: that made you say? Culture is for me? This is

711
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: formative pop culture. Sure in any dimension that you can

712
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: think of that you think looking back, that's when Kasha

713
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: became Kasha.

714
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 4: Okay, it's a couple of things that all right, that's okay.

715
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 4: So getting ready for school, I remember seeing the video

716
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 4: for drop It like It's hot and hearing that sound,

717
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: and I was like, you can just that could be

718
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: my job making noises with my mouth that were like

719
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 4: the sillier the better. Yeah, And then like joy Ride,

720
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, like I literally took this to

721
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: heart where I'm like, I can just make silly sound yeah,

722
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 4: and it can be iconic and I live my best life.

723
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: And then I also remember the first time I heard

724
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 4: will Smith where I was like, I'm I thought, well,

725
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: I thought I was gay, and then I was like,

726
00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 4: wait a minute, jiggy with it was and welcome to Miami, Miami.

727
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: He really didn't.

728
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 4: It was really good.

729
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: Never forget just the two of us.

730
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, you can like take an

731
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: old song and make it your I was like, yeah,

732
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: I didn't say bad words.

733
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but did that matter though? When you were a kid,

734
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: who's you know, you know, I guess not sheltered, but

735
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: you had a religious Oh well I was.

736
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 4: I was like I was, she was trying it all.

737
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 4: It's my last life. Just think about that, like blast

738
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 4: off in all directions. Yeah, I don't know he was

739
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 4: like part of my awakening.

740
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: Yes. Sexually, yeah, he was hot, wild wild West. I

741
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: feel like I did stop the tape.

742
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I need to circle back to This.

743
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: Is back in the day when anytime a man was

744
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: in a movie, like I remember Rosie O'Donnell would ask

745
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 2: the question. She would have men on her show and

746
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: it's just so funny now. But Mark Wahlberg came in

747
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: and they did an interview, and I'll never forget the

748
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: last question she asked before they went to break was

749
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: she goes, is there any honey shot?

750
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: Hey shot?

751
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 2: And then he goes little honey shot. She goes, there

752
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: you go, there's a heiney shot, and it was just

753
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: like like hey shot.

754
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: She was balancing the scales like back then. It was

755
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: like she did it well. The women were asked about

756
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 3: their tits and the men were should have been.

757
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: Out, so she was like, you know, we're gonna ask

758
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: about the men's butts.

759
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 4: Marky Mark Wait, was he the one with the dick

760
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 4: in Boogie Knights?

761
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: Yes, prosthetic dick was it? Yeah?

762
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: Famous?

763
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: It was huge.

764
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 4: It was amazing.

765
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: If it was that big, we would have known from

766
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: them from the Calvin what we would have known if

767
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: he had anakon de do in the Calvin Kleine that

768
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: were famous and then Boogie Knights, that thing unfertile.

769
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: It was formative pop culture moment.

770
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 3: You're asking, well, oh yeah, clearly, wait, but I love that,

771
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: d I love that. The takeaway from drop It Like

772
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 3: It's Hot is it can be silly.

773
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 4: I actually think go with me here, yes, but vibrating

774
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 4: at silly Goose level is like takes feeling very safe,

775
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 4: and to feel feel very safe as a woman or

776
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 4: a queer person in this world, like you really have

777
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 4: to cultivate a community and a safe like container.

778
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: A cruise if you will.

779
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 4: Yes, a cruise, a songwriting room.

780
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 2: It takes a cruise.

781
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 4: It takes a cruise, ikesh, a cruse. We're gonna have

782
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: to bring it back after this, I want to go.

783
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: It is going to be high.

784
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 1: You're making for a found points.

785
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 4: No, But basically, to really get into your like silly

786
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 4: Goose bullshit, you have to feel safe and comfy and

787
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 4: like it can't like you can't be really scared and stressed.

788
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 4: So when I get the sillier, I get that means

789
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 4: the safer I feel. And I have noticed Historically that's

790
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 4: the energy that my fans react to the most. So

791
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 4: the sillier I'm feeling, it's like the happier my fans are,

792
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 4: but also the happier and safer I am. There's something

793
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: magical and in this. Yeah, so I try to notice

794
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 4: who I feel silly around.

795
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: Silly goose very important.

796
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 3: A contagion is a catagion, is safe, gender is intelligent?

797
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: Is smart gander?

798
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: Yes?

799
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

800
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: I call it the Gospel of the Goose.

801
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: The Gospel of is the title of this episode of episode.

802
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 2: I live for that, the Gospel of the Goose, and

803
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: that now we have a supermarket, we have a cruise

804
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: part two, and we have an animated show.

805
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: Are we in business together? Not kidding? Let's take it

806
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: the funk out.

807
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: It's a great time for the business. Everyone's it's going

808
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: to be an easy cell. Maybe it would it might

809
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: be who wouldn't buy it?

810
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 4: I don't know.

811
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: We also heard, we also heard before you came in

812
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: that you're a Beastie Boys fan.

813
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 4: So like that was another pop culture moment for me. Yes,

814
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 4: I was like I know, because I was like I

815
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: could be a silly fucking goose. Yes, And I'm yeah,

816
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 4: I'm going to do that.

817
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: I feel like your DNA is fight for your right.

818
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 4: Honestly, you're one hundred percent right, yes, And the fact

819
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 4: that I got to work with Rick Rubin, I was like,

820
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 4: just last lifetime goals, what.

821
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 2: Were his Like? Where were there?

822
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 3: You said he was like Jedi master, Like like what

823
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: was he impartying like this?

824
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 4: I think it was to make great art. I feel

825
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 4: like you have to be honest. And I was going

826
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 4: through what I was going through at the time, which

827
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 4: was a litigation, which was not fun, and I really

828
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 4: wanted because my favorite thing in the world is to

829
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 4: make people happy. Literally, It's like like I want to

830
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 4: vibrate at my highest level because I know it makes

831
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 4: my fans happy, like it's beautiful relationship where literally they're

832
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 4: the love of my life. I just like everything for them.

833
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: So I really I really wanted to just be like

834
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 4: so happy and like pretend like I was feeling wonderful

835
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 4: and everything was great during a very long, almost decade

836
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 4: long litigation. And I remember I made Praying and Rainbow

837
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 4: and it took like one Twitter comment it was like

838
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 4: I want, we want fun, we want fun Girl back,

839
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 4: And I was like, trust me, so do I, Like

840
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 4: I really do, and so I really tried to like

841
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 4: be that, but like it wasn't maybe my most authentic

842
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 4: vibration in that time, even though I wanted it to be,

843
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 4: just like, it wasn't really available. And he entered the

844
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 4: chat in a way that was like it's all right,

845
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 4: Like you don't have to perform, Like you don't have

846
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 4: to try to sing, you can just sing, Like you

847
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 4: don't have to try to be fun, you can just

848
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 4: be honest. And it felt very much like having somebody

849
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: like walk into the dark corners of your mind with

850
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 4: you so you don't have to go by yourself. And

851
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 4: it felt really beautiful to look at things that were

852
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 4: really hard, like some of those lyrics are gnarly on

853
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 4: gag Order. By the way, I changed the title of

854
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 4: that album to eat Acid.

855
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, that's right.

856
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 4: Which I changed the title because in a lot of

857
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 4: my healing work, I've realized that only now looking back

858
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 4: did I realize that that album, in that time, it

859
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 4: was such an alchemizing moment in my life for my spirituality,

860
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 4: for the direction of where my life was going to go,

861
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 4: and for the person I was going to become, and

862
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 4: so from this like very very difficult time, it actually

863
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 4: was like God's greatest psychedelic And I have so much

864
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 4: gratitude and appreciation for this difficult thing because I lived

865
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 4: through it and now I can hopefully help other people

866
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 4: and my shows or I teach songwriting to veterans and kids.

867
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's amazing.

868
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I really think that having somebody to hold

869
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: hands with and look at the dark corners of your mind,

870
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 4: like that's what I want to do with the rest

871
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 4: of my life.

872
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: That's really beautiful. To know so many elements of your purpose,

873
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: you know, like to know that I'm a joy bringer

874
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: and to know that I want to help people bring

875
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: out the things that they are not facing.

876
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 6: Well.

877
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, because when you have somebody to look at it

878
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 4: with you, you kind of realize like, oh wait, I'm

879
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 4: safe now, and I can make a piece of art

880
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 4: out of that, like think about praying. Yeah, it is

881
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 4: the craziest If chill see about last night, I'm dressed

882
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: up in a full gold warrior outfit that is designed

883
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: to like it's inspired by the interior of Saint Peter's

884
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 4: Basilica and the Vatican Michaelangelo, right, and I come out

885
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 4: on stage with this like backpack strapped to my head

886
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 4: and these very cunty glasses. I look so cool and

887
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 4: everyone is screaming praying ten thousand people if not more more,

888
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 4: And like that all came from one day I walked

889
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 4: in and I was like, I'm going through a really

890
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 4: hard thing and I don't know how to deal with it.

891
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 4: And my friend Ryan Luis is like, you can sing

892
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 4: that high note and we're gonna play around for a

893
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 4: couple hours, And like, love you believe in you so

894
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 4: so much can come from just having some to be

895
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 4: kind to you and like be like I'm gonna look

896
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 4: at I'm gonna look at some stuff with you that

897
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 4: might be really hard for you, but I'm gonna do

898
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 4: it with you. Like that's so powerful and it can

899
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 4: turn into God only knows what that can turn into. Yeah,

900
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: but for me it turned into I could process with

901
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 4: my community what I was dealing with that I otherwise

902
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 4: I don't know what I would have done if I

903
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 4: couldn't make art out of what I was going through.

904
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 4: That was a really hard time.

905
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's brutal, especially when it feels like there's also

906
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 2: that part of you.

907
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: I would imagine that's.

908
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: Like not wanting to necessarily have more and more success.

909
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: But it's like, once you know what you're capable of

910
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: and how many people you can reach to have that

911
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: limited must be I mean frustrating probably isn't even the word.

912
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, you have a communal relationship here

913
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: and to be cut off from that must feel it's again,

914
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 2: it's just like a broad block to your mission.

915
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I just want to I just like kind

916
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 4: of feel like I'm meant to be of like fucking

917
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 4: silly goose service. Yea, that's what pop Curious what you're like?

918
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 4: You love pop? We love you love. What's your favorite

919
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 4: pop song of all time?

920
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: All time?

921
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

922
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so hard.

923
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, up, there doesn't time, just like

924
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to say Dancing on my Own by Robin

925
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: is a generational moment. I would say Bad Romance is

926
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: a generational moment. I say, for me, it was just

927
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: like I just loved these big, cathartic choruses. You like

928
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: to scream, I love to scream and ESTI in my

929
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five jeep grand Cherochy Laredo when I was

930
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: in high school, like letting it rip because there was

931
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: something so cathartic about pop. What about for You?

932
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: All for You by Daniel Jackson, Uh soda pop?

933
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: Whoa?

934
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 3: So like my thing is like effervescent wow, yeah you

935
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 3: know what I mean, like carbonate like literally it's all

936
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 3: for you is so like it's just it's light and light.

937
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I like to so see you more clearly

938
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 4: now that I know that's your song.

939
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I see you too well.

940
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: You know, I think we kind of present differently than

941
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: what's our favorite.

942
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: And he and he is he is very much deeper

943
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: than people.

944
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: I'm secretly released. I just love to sit in the

945
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: room and go to the dark world. My friends make

946
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: fun of me. They're like, oh, Matt's gonna listen to

947
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: ballads now. It's just like I will bring the room

948
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: down like when I met when I met Karaoke. I'll

949
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 2: do foolish Games by Jewel. Oh wow that's who I am.

950
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 4: Oh you have that yeah moody.

951
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 2: So I just like I like it. I like big emotion,

952
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: and I love like sad pop, sad big pop, sad

953
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: big pop. Yeah yeah yeah yeah.

954
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: Find Chandelier love. Yeah, that's like one of my favorites.

955
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: And I think my favorite of is a live bike

956
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: see you I'm alone. That one. I was like, that

957
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: song was so and then she goes, I'm a it's

958
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: like crazy, I love someone just pushing.

959
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 4: It, screaming, screaming.

960
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: So you're asking us if we pop people, because.

961
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 4: It's like I wanted to see how you sparkle?

962
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 2: What are yours? You sparkle.

963
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 8: Here?

964
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 4: Like you I tell the whole wide world, But the

965
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 4: inside of me sounds like, yeah, you're right.

966
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: I will say the first time I heard TikTok I

967
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: was the first time I heard it, I was like, Wow,

968
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: that's like that's like a very different I was like

969
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 2: a little confused. Second time I heard it, I was like, oh,

970
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 2: that's forever. I was like the first time I heard it,

971
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: I was like I have to wrap my head around

972
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: that one. And then suddenly I was just like, this

973
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 2: is a movement, not a moment. Can they ask?

974
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 3: But like, is I've always linked to you in Peaches

975
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: together Peaches.

976
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 4: I love Peaches, Like.

977
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: I feel like Peaches and bac Boys makes total.

978
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 4: Sense to me for you, totally, you know, totally.

979
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 3: Just like it's I'm not going to give a because

980
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 3: both you and Peaches can fucking sing. Peach just doesn't

981
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 3: really sing as much as we would like her to.

982
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: Peaching the way we were on this podcast.

983
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, go ahead, y literally saying the way we

984
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: were stopped.

985
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: So we went out to Berlin to do a show

986
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: in Berlin and Peaches was our guest and we were like,

987
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: shepsuck yeah, and we're just talking about like, you know,

988
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: vocals we don't usually hear from her, and she fully

989
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: started singing the way we Barbara Barbara, and.

990
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: We were like, do this. It was really great.

991
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

992
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 4: I used to go out to so like before TikTok Yes,

993
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 4: I used to go out to Pappy and Harriet's with

994
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: like the homies and do you know in a Joshua Tree?

995
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 4: Do you know this dive bar? Okay, this is where

996
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 4: I did my first photo shoot for the cover of

997
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 4: Animal was at this dive bar in the middle of

998
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 4: the desert and Joshua Tree. It's like a biker bar,

999
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 4: and it's like where I first ate mushrooms. I saw spaceships,

1000
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 4: Like a lot has happened at this place. It's amazing.

1001
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 4: There's a picture of me like on a motorcycle with

1002
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 4: the glitter on the face.

1003
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 2: Yes.

1004
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 4: Like the first photo should I ever did for the

1005
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 4: cover was like, there, what's the point of the story?

1006
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: Peaches or Peaches?

1007
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, And there's like this whole crew of like

1008
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 4: very cool, very punk rock people that would always go

1009
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 4: out and like there's a lot of there were mushrooms happening,

1010
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 4: you know.

1011
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: It was in the desert.

1012
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 4: It was in the desert. It was like a little trashy,

1013
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 4: it was a little dangerous. It was kind of crazy.

1014
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 4: But I grew up like in the same circles as Peaches,

1015
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 4: and I just always totally look up looked up to

1016
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 4: her because she's so cool. And I actually, I don't

1017
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 4: know if you all know this, but I was like

1018
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 4: a real life punk rocker. Oh, like like I've suck

1019
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 4: it tattooed in my lips.

1020
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 3: Stop, it's still there. Wow, that is clear as day.

1021
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: I haven't looked in a hot minute. Okay, it's still there.

1022
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: Well, love that.

1023
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: But like, so the video for TikTok was filmed at

1024
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 4: this house. It was like right down the street from

1025
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 4: my house. My friend Jules was like, I'll walk you

1026
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 4: home with my knife out to make sure you get

1027
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 4: home safe.

1028
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 2: So sweet.

1029
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 4: The TikTok video was shot actually at his house called

1030
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 4: the Drunk Tank, and that's where like in the bridge

1031
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 4: of the TikTok video. If you watch and I'm like

1032
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 4: in this shirt and I'm like singing and you know

1033
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 4: you bailed me up, you break me down, and there's

1034
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 4: like glitter being thrown. That was the drunk Tank. And

1035
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 4: so this whole scene was like also very Peaches scene adjacent. Yes, yes,

1036
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 4: punk it was like true, like truly ye, Like you

1037
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 4: would sleep in a sleeping bag and find like dead

1038
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 4: animals at the bottom of the next like it was

1039
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 4: gross Jesus, Like it was disgusting. It was very real.

1040
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 8: What kind of animal, well, a dirty tampon, but that

1041
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 8: they him alive, like.

1042
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 4: It was a wild time anyways.

1043
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 3: That the animal came because they smelled the tampon. You did, though,

1044
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: I'm trying to put it all together. I to take

1045
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 3: these mushrooms too.

1046
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: Have you ever realized your car just doesn't fit your

1047
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: life anymore? Like maybe you've got a new job, or

1048
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: you've moved, or your family's grown, or maybe you're just

1049
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: ready for something different.

1050
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that new chapter feeling is exciting, and sometimes it

1051
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: comes with a new car. When it's time to shop,

1052
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 3: it can feel overwhelming, though totally.

1053
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: There are so many options, so many places to look.

1054
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 2: You could spend weeks bouncing between websites and dealerships trying

1055
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: to figure out what actually works. That's why I always

1056
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 2: start with cars dot com.

1057
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: Cars dot com brings together over two million new and

1058
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: used cars nationwide, all in one place, so whether you

1059
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: know exactly what you want or you're just exploring, you've

1060
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: got real choices, everything from compact cars for your commute,

1061
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: to SUVs for family trips or trucks for hauling gear.

1062
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: And it's not just a list. Cars dot com has

1063
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 2: tools and expert advice to help you figure out what

1064
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: car really fits your life. Their advanced search filters lets

1065
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 2: you narrow things down by price, mileage, and features. Leather seats,

1066
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: third row hybrid, whatever matters most of you, they got it.

1067
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 3: Plus, the site has real reviews from people about dealerships

1068
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Speaker 3: and transparent deal ratings, so you can see whether the

1069
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: price you're looking at is fair compared to other cars

1070
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 3: in your area. Mixed shopping smarter and simpler.

1071
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 2: That combination of clarity and choice really takes the stress

1072
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: out of car shopping. It lets you focus on what matters,

1073
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Speaker 2: finding the car that works for your life, your plans,

1074
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 2: and your next chapter.

1075
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: So don't take any chances. Do car shopping the easy way.

1076
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Speaker 1: Start your search with cars dot Com.

1077
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 4: We're too next anyway.

1078
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you done acid a bunch?

1079
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 4: No, I've never done as never Never.

1080
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 3: You gotta eat the acid, I actually don't.

1081
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 4: You've been through it, true, Like I feel like I'm

1082
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 4: on acid all the time shifted for you already. The

1083
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 4: whole point of that album is my mom said don't

1084
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 4: eat acid, and I said, okay, God gave me.

1085
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: Literally don't eat it. Don't eat it.

1086
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 4: I feel like I am a walking psychedelic trip as is.

1087
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 3: This is actually perfect because we have friends who have

1088
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 3: have like been the chaperone during our trips, and they're

1089
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 3: like on our wavelength already because they're like, right, She's like,

1090
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 3: I'm tripping the entire time.

1091
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: Our friend mo, I'm.

1092
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: Going to tell the story.

1093
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: Yes, So we we went upstate to.

1094
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 2: Take acid for the first time. We rented a house.

1095
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: It was like where was it? It was like sort of

1096
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 2: outside the hunted valleys, hunted value, And so we go

1097
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 2: there and it's like me bo, two of our friends

1098
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: and that we're gonna take it. And then one who

1099
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: is just gonna watch our friend Moe, and we take

1100
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 2: the acid. I have my breakthrough about half an hour in.

1101
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe this just runs through my body.

1102
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: We're all drawing crazy ass pictures. I draw a fish

1103
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: woman and I turned her around and I said, she's

1104
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: a work in progress like me. And then we I guess,

1105
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: we went out to the tree. Do you remember this.

1106
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: We were sitting under this tree. We're all sitting there.

1107
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 2: We're all connecting like we had just had a crying

1108
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: breakthrough with each other early. So we're sitting there and

1109
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,479
Speaker 2: then Mo goes, Okay, everyone, I just want to point

1110
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: something out, and we're not going to panic.

1111
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 5: There is a brown recluse. There's a brown recluse right there,

1112
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 5: next to right there. And what we're gonna do is

1113
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 5: it's and she goes, I don't want anyone to panic.

1114
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 5: But it is the most poisonous spider in North America. Okay,

1115
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 5: And so what we're gonna do is we're going to

1116
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 5: thank the spider. Oh and we're so dropped in that.

1117
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: We like sober as sober as a bell.

1118
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 2: And we're sitting there We're like, Okay, we're not going

1119
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: to panic.

1120
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 4: We're not.

1121
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: And so we sit down and we thank the spider.

1122
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: We're like, thank you so much for sparing us and

1123
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: for everything you're doing for the ecosystem and for being here.

1124
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: You are a gorgeous being. Walk up, go over. I

1125
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 2: think we like fought with big sticks. Hours later, the

1126
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: trip ends, someone pulls out their phone finally googles it

1127
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 2: the area not it was our friend, but it was

1128
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: just so funny because the person that wasn't on it.

1129
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: It was like having the most like profound mind splitting happening.

1130
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 3: You don't and so you're you're not even curious as

1131
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: to like what you would be like acid?

1132
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1133
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: What do you think you would discover?

1134
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 4: I think I already know.

1135
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know. I think I already know.

1136
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: I get it.

1137
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 4: I got it like dead ass. Yeah, like I want

1138
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 4: to have I want to just relax, you know, like

1139
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 4: I want the massages. Someone take me to the Amman.

1140
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: I'll take you. Let's I told the story yesterday. I

1141
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: tripped at the Aman. Stop up which amon? I'm on yara?

1142
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 4: Which one? That one?

1143
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: Shut? The They do mean to hang out?

1144
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: You guys, babysit you baby, I tripped on acid on

1145
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 3: the beach.

1146
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: I kept ordering full sized pizzas.

1147
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 2: I hate them. Dah, therefore there's pizza.

1148
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck me, it was heaven.

1149
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 4: This sounds honestly, this sounds like the life.

1150
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: It was the life. So anyway or no, have the cruise.

1151
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 4: Go there to them.

1152
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: We're taking a cruise to.

1153
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: The tickets are a little price. But you know you.

1154
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 2: Walked on the boat.

1155
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 4: There was someone dressed as a narwhal ending out condoms

1156
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 4: with my face on a Honestly, you think I need acid?

1157
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's my real life?

1158
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: Is your favorite animal?

1159
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 4: I love them? I didn't see you.

1160
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: Oh wow, really good? What about them? Their majesty?

1161
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 4: Do you know that's a tooth coming out of their face?

1162
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: Yes? I didn't know that.

1163
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 4: And do you know that I collect teeth?

1164
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: You do teeth?

1165
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: I do send them over.

1166
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 2: Now you're getting letters.

1167
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: What's what's the teeth about?

1168
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 4: Well, the teeth started when I became obsessed with my fans,

1169
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 4: and then someone was like, my child lost their teeth,

1170
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 4: and I was like, can I have them? Because I

1171
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 4: want to make jewelry out of it? And so then

1172
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 4: I made a necklace and an earring, and then a belt,

1173
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 4: and then a crown.

1174
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, a crown.

1175
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 4: Oh, the crown's wild. And then I just started collecting

1176
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 4: them because it kind of freaks out straight man.

1177
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah the door.

1178
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 4: I collect human teeth. But so yeah, and I just

1179
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 4: started putting it in my like yeah, all over my home.

1180
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, just in little yeah. Yeah, because it's crazy because

1181
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: they are bone.

1182
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 4: And where are they? You flush them down the toilet,

1183
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 4: like where are they going.

1184
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: To have a question about that?

1185
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: Where do parents put the teeth?

1186
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 4: Give them to me, anyone here, give them to me?

1187
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: She keeps them, okay, so do me. The whole room

1188
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: everybody is like, I know exactly where your teeth.

1189
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,959
Speaker 4: Please, can I actually have them? It's not a droll

1190
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 4: and it's not a joke.

1191
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: If brings teeth, she's a pop star and she needs

1192
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: your teeth.

1193
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: That's a real culture. Number eight.

1194
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: She's a pop star and she needs your teeth.

1195
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: If y'all want to bring in your teeth, we can

1196
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 2: put them in an envelope or something and send them off.

1197
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: Y'all bring your own stamps, because I ain't going to

1198
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: get stamps.

1199
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 4: No, they might be heavy, they might be heavy.

1200
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 2: Okay, I think we have to do I don't think

1201
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: so have It's time transition into our classic iconic segment

1202
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: where we take a minute to sort of go off

1203
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: on something that's bugging us, and we're gonna go first.

1204
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll go.

1205
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: First, and then you'll go I have something. So we're

1206
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 2: recording this the day after the two days after we

1207
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 2: were at the Tony Awards, and I have a realization

1208
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: about someone who was there but not featured prominently enough.

1209
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, oh, this will be exciting. This is Matt Rodgers.

1210
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: I don't think so many times sort's now.

1211
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. No, Rosie O'Donnell coming out

1212
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 2: after Tony's y. I feel like Rosie O'Donnell was at

1213
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 2: the Tony's. It wouldn't it have been an amazing moment.

1214
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 2: She now lives in Scotland, she doesn't come to America,

1215
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 2: Ireland get Ireland, same reference. But you got to put

1216
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 2: Rosie O'Donnell on stage when you can, because she was

1217
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: right about everything from the beginning. And we've done Rosie

1218
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 2: so dirty, just a countless story of the way we

1219
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: treat women. But Rosy O'Donnell was a legend and an

1220
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: icon always, and I feel like we were robbed of

1221
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 2: a moment where she comes out. Obviously, whoever presented Best

1222
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 2: Musical great, But Rosie o'dnnald was the theater queen. She

1223
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 2: did so much for Broadway theater. When she had a show,

1224
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: she even had like off off Broadway shows, come and

1225
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 2: perform on The ros o donald Show. And I just

1226
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 2: feel like she was in the building and it was

1227
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 2: either that she wasn't asked to present, or maybe she

1228
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 2: didn't want to. I would say if she wasn't asked, shame,

1229
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: and if she didn't want to, Rosie, I just would

1230
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: have loved to have seen it. But I want you

1231
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: to make your own decisions. And my decision here today

1232
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: is say, I don't think so, honey, there was not

1233
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 2: enough Rosi o' donald at the Tony Awards, and she

1234
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: was in the building.

1235
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 3: And that's women I think she would have done it

1236
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: because she was doing the carpet.

1237
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, why wasn't Rosie on stage? That

1238
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: is so you're so right?

1239
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 2: And I was a Rosi o' donald.

1240
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 4: Kid, I mean love, but but I was on I

1241
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 4: was playing a show that night, so I missed the drama.

1242
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: There's a drama, a drama.

1243
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 2: It was just that she was fully there and I

1244
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 2: was like, oh, she must be presenting and that'll be

1245
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 2: so amazing.

1246
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1247
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 4: See, like give her her moment, give her her mom

1248
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, like she.

1249
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 2: People forget she was in Greece on Broadway. She was

1250
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 2: Marty in Greece. Okay, she was rapping.

1251
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: To commercials for Kmart. What this woman is?

1252
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 3: She was rapping Big K like she was was She

1253
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 3: was just doing like that's all I remember. This is

1254
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 3: before big K was key for a Big K was

1255
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 3: Kennedy still exists?

1256
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 4: No, No, I don't think that would be a good

1257
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 4: grocery store to hostile takeover Kmart.

1258
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 6: Oh my.

1259
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: Blue Ramen poppy.

1260
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 4: I'm trying.

1261
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm so happy about Gospel of the Goose. I'm going

1262
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: to use it any time.

1263
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: It's huge. You're rubining us. I love that.

1264
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: Are you part of the cult? We were part of

1265
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 2: the co part are the crazy one?

1266
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 5: Thing?

1267
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: That's actually that it has.

1268
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 1: Been bothering me.

1269
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: All right, this is your moment for it. This is

1270
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

1271
01:03:58,680 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey.

1272
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 3: Everyone, all of a sudden calling out quote unquote vocal fry.

1273
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no.

1274
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 3: Someone on TikTok probably like taught someone like people this recently,

1275
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 3: and now everyone's like on any queer person or woman speaking, they're.

1276
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: Like timid vocal fry. It's fine.

1277
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 3: Actually, when a guy does it, it's like a it's authoritative,

1278
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 3: and then when anyone else does it, it feels like

1279
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 3: it's fucking like it's it's just another weird, femphobic thing

1280
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 3: I think I feel, and like, I don't know, it's

1281
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 3: just a tambour. You're you're not You're not mad about

1282
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 3: vocal fry. You're just mad that Like there's this way,

1283
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 3: there's a way of speaking that's been popularized by like people.

1284
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,439
Speaker 1: Who aren't God, you know what I mean.

1285
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 3: Like everyone sounds crazy if you think about it. There's

1286
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 3: no such thing as a normal voice. We all have

1287
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 3: crazy voices. Mine's a little nasally. Sure, there's a vocal

1288
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 3: fry in there somewhere, but ultimately I kind of speak

1289
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 3: normal sauce. I feel like I speak normal sauce. Sure

1290
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 3: there's a facts in every now and then, but for

1291
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 3: the most part, I'm talking normal And that's one minute.

1292
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 3: I'm just noticing. Just just clock it next time you

1293
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 3: like are doing something like public facing.

1294
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 2: And we know this all too well with the word like.

1295
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 2: People who are like you say like too much. It's

1296
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: the most boring thing to say at this point. It's

1297
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 2: and and it does feel like there's a coded.

1298
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 3: It's coded and there's literally every other language in the

1299
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 3: modern world.

1300
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: There are.

1301
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I missed the drama with the vocal fry,

1302
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 4: me too. Actually, I think they hated it, since I

1303
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 4: mean the dawn of my time in the world of public.

1304
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 3: Right, But I think there's been a resurgence in vocal fry,

1305
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: sort of like hire where I'm like, why are we

1306
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 3: caring about this all of a sudden? Also, it's not

1307
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 3: a big deal.

1308
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 4: Is it a real thing? Do we care?

1309
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 3: I don't think we care. I remember my choir teacher

1310
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 3: in high school being like, don't talk in voke frid.

1311
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, but why, it's fun.

1312
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: I'm choosing to.

1313
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 4: I feel like I kind of made a career out

1314
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 4: of talking in vocal fright, honest and so many things. Honestly,

1315
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 4: I can.

1316
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: All right, it's time.

1317
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 4: Okay, I've never done this before.

1318
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 2: This is Kesha's I don't think so, honey. Her time

1319
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Speaker 2: starts now, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Think so, honey. I don't really try to get mad

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01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 4: about that much stuff, but I'm going to be really

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01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 4: mad about this. I think that women should be able

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01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 4: to be angry because if you don't like women being angry,

1324
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 4: then you don't like women being horny. Because I think

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01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 4: anger and horniness are literally like two sides of the

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01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 4: same energetic coin. So if you have that issue, then

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01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 4: like thirty seconds, you're also quite scared of our power.

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01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 4: And that's a bummer for you. That emasculates you. Wow.

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01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 4: And I do think that like also, being jealous also

1330
01:06:55,680 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 4: means I'm horny. It means I care so like a

1331
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 4: little jealousy never like you should be. You should be

1332
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 4: so lucky if I feel jealous five seconds. Honestly, you're welcome. Yes,

1333
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 4: the fucking.

1334
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: Jealousy tells you something about yourself.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you're saying if you're jealous of someone, that means

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01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 3: you're horny for them.

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01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 4: For me, no, if I'm jealous of the person that

1338
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 4: I'm hooking up with, if they're like flirting with somebody else,

1339
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 4: it's a good thing.

1340
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you like them.

1341
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 4: It means I care.

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01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 3: Yeah enough, exactly jealous and yeah, guys who are afraid

1343
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 3: of women being angry, it's like, well, like you're not

1344
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 3: going to see them spurt.

1345
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 4: No, my god, where do you think the squirting comes from?

1346
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, damn the floor of doom. Come see me,

1347
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 2: I'll show you what's up.

1348
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 5: Wow?

1349
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: You ate that?

1350
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 4: Did I?

1351
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? I just went on like a I don't know

1352
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: what and what did I even do you?

1353
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 2: I agree with myself a minute ago.

1354
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 4: I didn't know she rapped for game Art. That is

1355
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 4: very she did.

1356
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 3: All that she did, all she wrapped for Camar and

1357
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 3: all I could The only bar I could come up

1358
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 3: with was big Kay. Well, this has been an incredible conversation.

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01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 2: I am so happy too, Like we have been such

1360
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 2: huge fans of yours when we knew this was happening.

1361
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 2: It just it's just one of those moments where again

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01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: like super formative for us and like a frink, so

1363
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 2: many people like that have gotten to know your music

1364
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 2: over the years. You hold such a special place. So

1365
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 2: we can't wait to see the Freedom tour. And I

1366
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: believe I missed it at Jones Beats like that would

1367
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 2: have been so fun. My hometown venue.

1368
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it was like a wall of humans.

1369
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 2: It was crazy, so great.

1370
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 4: It's like crazy, you guys have to come through.

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01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.

1372
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for the Casha Cruise, perhaps the kmart Ca

1373
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: Casha flavored ramen.

1374
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, wait there's pop rocks. Oh my god.

1375
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait, how did you do this?

1376
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 4: Oh my wait, let's shoot him?

1377
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god? All right, because you were over there

1378
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 2: waving them to me. I thought you were waving the phone.

1379
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, you know, you can get a picture.

1380
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, fucking relax. I was like, we are the

1381
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 2: crazy people. Wait do wait?

1382
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: Wait?

1383
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 4: How do we do? We like raise too? Celsius like

1384
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 4: what are we doing?

1385
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 2: All right?

1386
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 1: Are we crazy?

1387
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 2: Are we going to the face.

1388
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 4: To the face to the face the race?

1389
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 2: My friend, look, we got Epper with a phone.

1390
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 7: We are Yeah, you know.

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01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry to all the Mischifonio girls are out there.

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01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,799
Speaker 2: Deal with that. Bye bye.

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Speaker 3: Last Culture Racist is the production by Will Ferrell's Big

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01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 3: Money Players in the Heart radio.

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01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 2: Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang,

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01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,480
Speaker 2: Executive produced by Anna hasby A, and produced by Becca Ramos.

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01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 2: Edited by hot Dog Sandwich and our music is by

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01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 2: Henry Bersky.