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Speaker 1: Joel Anderson is with The Ringer Tailgate podcast and the

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Speaker 1: press Box podcast. He's with us right now college Football Playoff.

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Speaker 1: The first installment was released last night. But I'm more

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Speaker 1: interested in the fact Taylor put down some notes from

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Speaker 1: me here.

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Speaker 2: He was very excited to have you on. Joel. Oh

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Speaker 2: rarely does this.

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Speaker 1: Like prep for an interview, because usually I just bullshit

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Speaker 1: my way.

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Speaker 2: Through these things. Well, I mean, yes, but he.

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Speaker 1: Alerted me to the fact that I don't know how

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Speaker 1: we quantify this, that you were the fastest ten year

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Speaker 1: old in the country.

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Speaker 2: Is that true? No, it was, And the way you

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Speaker 2: quantify it is is that I got a gifts of

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Speaker 2: what a certificate from the it's now it's called the

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Speaker 2: USATF or whatever, the USA Track and Field. It was

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Speaker 2: called the Athletic Congress back in nineteen eighty eight because

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Speaker 2: I didn't go to the Nationals, because I went to

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Speaker 2: another Nationals and raced and the hundred there, and so

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Speaker 2: they just sent me the certificate to say, hey, you

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Speaker 2: ran the fastest hundred time in the country this year.

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Speaker 2: Is a ten year old? It was a thirteen. It

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Speaker 2: was a thirteen three. By the way, it was a

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Speaker 2: pretty good time. So it's not bad.

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Speaker 1: So you have a certificate, right, I have the certificate

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Speaker 1: that makes it valid.

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Speaker 2: I guess right, I mean, I see the thing is stup. Man,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of messed up because my coworkers at BuzzFeed

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Speaker 2: about a decade ago, they didn't believe me, and I

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Speaker 2: had to take it to work and I showed it

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Speaker 2: to them and we posted it up in the office

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Speaker 2: just so they would believe me. And now I can't

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Speaker 2: find it anymore. I was going to ask you to

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Speaker 2: show no so, no so, and so. Now you got

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Speaker 2: to call up Ben Massis, Lily Logan Rhodes, Matthew Kibis.

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Speaker 2: If you are around you guys have to confirm for them,

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Speaker 2: for everybody that I was the fastest ten year old

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Speaker 2: those guys, and now I don't have the evidence anymore.

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Speaker 1: All right, Taylor, get all of them on the show.

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Speaker 1: All right, it seems flimzy.

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Speaker 2: I have to be honest. I'm telling you, man, I

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Speaker 2: was really good. In the next year. I wasn't the

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Speaker 2: fastest ten year old in the country, but we set

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Speaker 2: a national record in the four hundred meter relay. My

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Speaker 2: little team so yeah, you know, I was pretty fast

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Speaker 2: back in the days. To look at you, I was

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Speaker 2: you know, I wasn't a lacrosse demon like you. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But I I got I got

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Speaker 2: it in. I did some stuff, Joel.

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Speaker 3: I walked on to the North Carolina football team. And

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Speaker 3: I understand that you played football yourself at TCU. You

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Speaker 3: were Ladanian Tomlinson's back up in that running back room.

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Speaker 3: How did your football career end at TCU?

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Speaker 2: Do you know this story? Have you heard? Have you

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Speaker 2: heard me talking about it before? All right, so anyway

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Speaker 2: there's a reason he asked it. Man. Yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right. So you know I got recruited under Pat Sullivan. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so Pat Sullivan former husband winner at Auburn, and so

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Speaker 2: when I got there, he went four and seven my

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Speaker 2: red shirt year, and then won and ten my you know,

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Speaker 2: the real freshman year. And so then they brought in

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Speaker 2: Dennis Franchione. So it's Dennis Franchione and Gary Patterson was

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Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator. So I'm going through you know, spring drills.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to figure out, you know, who's really who's not.

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Speaker 2: And Gary Patterson looks over to me, just struggling through

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Speaker 2: some deals and he's like, Anderson, you've got feet like

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Speaker 2: I was, man, that's not good for a running back,

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Speaker 2: you know. And so and then they wanted to move

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Speaker 2: me to safety and I was like, no way, I'm

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Speaker 2: not doing that. That's not that's not that's not my call.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't want to tackle people like that. I've seen.

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Speaker 2: I'd seen the year before our safeties have to tackle

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Speaker 2: Chris Watu my falla. He was a two hundred and

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Speaker 2: like that did not look that did not look like

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Speaker 2: I'd rather get hit. I'd rather not have to hit anybody.

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Speaker 2: And so I was like, no, I'm not doing this anymore.

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Speaker 2: And so, yeah, so I went proing something other than sports.

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Speaker 2: You have told him, Hey, I was the fastest ten

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Speaker 2: year old in the fucking country. I mean, what are

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Speaker 2: not to brag on my speed, but I just go

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Speaker 2: ahead and bring it up. Since you brought it up there.

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Speaker 2: I did run a four point four to nine at

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Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety five Nike Combound at the University of Houston.

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Speaker 2: Me and Dante Hall we both ran four four nine. Wow,

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Speaker 2: I love speople. Find the d lineman who did that? Huh?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, look, man, they told me to

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Speaker 2: pick up some weight. I was came in at one

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Speaker 1: So yeah, what were your takeaways? I had an interesting

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Speaker 1: conversation right before you came on. Where Israel Goody Eirez,

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Speaker 1: who does the show with us on a daily basis.

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Speaker 1: He was saying, rather than have the weekly reveals, we

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Speaker 1: all understand why they do it. It's made for TV,

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Speaker 1: and so we can talk about it every single week.

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Speaker 1: He was like, one big reveal at the end of

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Speaker 1: the year, which I happen to think is a better

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Speaker 1: idea than the way we're doing it.

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Speaker 2: Now. What do you think? Oh man? But man, the

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Speaker 2: thing is, what else will we argue about? We need

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Speaker 2: the I mean, we need this to argue every week

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Speaker 2: because it's just I remember and every I'm sure people

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Speaker 2: bring this up all the time. The very first set

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Speaker 2: the top of them, right, and people were like, oh,

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Speaker 2: the other one, but it was just like, what's like

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Speaker 2: people were so you know, apoplectic and they were so

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Speaker 2: that's the kind of sit you knew how to do.

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Speaker 2: I think would fit this stuff. And that's why I

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Speaker 2: think college that's why I think college football does this

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Speaker 2: because like, okay, just something for everybody to get mad about.

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Speaker 2: Because like Miami, for instance, like they can be very

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Speaker 2: mad today. Right like if we wait till the end

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Speaker 2: of the year and things play out, maybe they win

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't want the end of the season revealed.

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Speaker 2: I want to have something to fight about every week.

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Speaker 1: You said the knes fans could be mad today, should

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Speaker 2: I mean, so I think they have to decide. I mean,

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Speaker 2: but I mean, are you gonna be mad at Crystal Ball?

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna be mad like this? Right? You know?

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Speaker 1: Cause I mean, look, you direct your anger in the

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. Yeah. The thing is, although SMU made

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Speaker 2: losing it, losing it SMU, if you're Miami is a

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Speaker 2: looking at that, like I thought y'all said that you

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Speaker 2: embarrassing to people. And the thing that and the reason

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Speaker 2: did something wrong, right, He's like, yeah, he's having to

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Speaker 2: answer all these questions. Whereas, on the other hand, after

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Speaker 2: the Georgia Florida game, and Kirby Smart has been fighting

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Speaker 2: its head coach. That is not a very good team, right.

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Speaker 2: But you know, Kirby Smart comes to the mic after

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Speaker 2: out here today, guys. You know this is every week

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Speaker 2: in the SEC. This is what you deal with, right,

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Speaker 2: Like Christal Ball didn't think to do that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: He didn't do the reputation management. He could have been like,

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Speaker 2: you know, GUYSU was in the playoffs last year. This

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Speaker 2: you come out of here with a win. They don't

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Speaker 2: do any of that stuff, yes, and so like I

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Speaker 2: say that was a tough game. We lost it, but

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Speaker 2: we're still a good team, right.

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Speaker 1: Play the political game, is what you're saying, essentially, right,

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Speaker 1: You got to play the.

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Speaker 2: Political game, man. Look the SEC, man the one thing

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Speaker 2: that they've got over everybody is that everybody believes the hype.

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Speaker 2: Everybody believes in the mythology of the SEC. So if

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Speaker 2: the ACC, if Georgia Tech loses to NC State, everybody's like, well,

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Speaker 2: that's just NC State, man. Nobody they're not good, but

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Speaker 2: it could just be Hey, man, NC State's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: It's tough to win at n C State. Also, they

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Speaker 2: beat Virginia earlier in the year. You know. Nobody says

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Speaker 2: Mario Cristobal, all you guys, maybe you should talk your

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Speaker 2: you a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Joe, it feels like there's two teams that get mocked

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Speaker 3: for the is back Moniker Miami obviously, yeah, and then

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Speaker 2: Is Texas kind of back man. Look, you know, So

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Speaker 2: it's funny to me because I actually think Texas is good. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: And and it's not just that. I mean they've been

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Speaker 2: in the semi Simmis the last two years. Like there

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Speaker 2: them eight of the last twelve years in the in

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Speaker 2: the Big twelve. Texas is not supposed to lose the

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Speaker 2: TCU eight of twelve years. But man, they're really good.

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Speaker 2: And you know, like I mean the one game that

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Speaker 2: they lost earlier in the year, they lost at the

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Speaker 2: number one ranked team by a score, right, Like that's

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Speaker 2: if Ohio and there's still number one rank by the way, yes,

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Speaker 2: and still number one rank. And everybody thinks that there's

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Speaker 2: been a real separation this year, right like Ohio State

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Speaker 2: resume and everything, they look like to be the best.

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Speaker 2: And so Texas lost that game by a point, and

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Speaker 1: And you know that committee wants the Mannings in the

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's why sark the rumor to want out of

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Speaker 2: Correct that is? Does does that look like a fun job.

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Speaker 2: So it must be your fault. Uh tell her, did

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: So I think if you lose to Billy Napier, you

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Speaker 2: What well, see, I don't know, see Kirby Smart would

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Speaker 2: I mean everything with Florida's theoretical that's supposed to be good.

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Speaker 1: You know, ye, who's the one team in the playoff

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not entirely sure Oregon is that good wow,

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Speaker 2: That's how IOWA was a football program. They just make

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Speaker 2: They're just done. Yeah, they're not going to make the

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Speaker 1: Do you like the expanded playoffs from the standpoint of it,

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Speaker 2: All these schools have shots now where they used to not,

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Speaker 1: Now you have thirty fan bases who are still engaged,

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Speaker 2: They're all miserable. They're all miserable, but you know still yeah,

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Speaker 2: well listen you uh, I have a second coach for you.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think anyone's having more fun in all

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you right now, Okay, Lane kiffit. He's

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Speaker 2: you know, Layla's back on his side. But also he

429
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,760
Speaker 2: gets to go to the yoga studios. He gets to

430
00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,560
Speaker 2: play around like he's just like he's like, what if

431
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,320
Speaker 2: Steve Spurrier was really free, you know, like what if

432
00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,880
Speaker 2: he just didn't care about like reputation management at all.

433
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,480
Speaker 2: Like he he gets to talk shit about coaches, He

434
00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,880
Speaker 2: gets to troll them. He's going to make so much money.

435
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,920
Speaker 2: It's just yeah, like, nobody like he's having the best

436
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 2: year of his life by far. I mean, by far,

437
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,080
Speaker 2: he's having a blast. Taylor makes a good point.

438
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,240
Speaker 1: If Duke makes it to the college football Playoff with

439
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 1: Manny Diaz as their coach, and like that is hell.

440
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,200
Speaker 2: For Miami Hurricane fans. Oh my god, that can't happen.

441
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I mean, I like, I mean, the thing.

442
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,320
Speaker 1: Now, listen, I badly want it to happen because Mike

443
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,440
Speaker 1: Bryan's head will explode.

444
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 2: So I think it needs to happen. I think it

445
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 2: needs to happen. I mean, the thing is, man, It's like, look,

446
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,359
Speaker 2: I mean they did many kind of wrong, right. I mean,

447
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,480
Speaker 2: I get like, this is college football. You want to upgrade,

448
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,119
Speaker 2: you think you can do better. Mario Christaball obviously has

449
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 2: got the program at a level that have people thinking

450
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 2: about the idea that you might be back. So it

451
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 2: has worked out. But yeah, man, like, if if Duke

452
00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 2: were to go to the playoffs before Miami, I mean,

453
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 2: Miami hasn't even made it. They've even won an a

454
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,360
Speaker 2: SEC championship. If you had told me this twenty five

455
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 2: years ago. Yes, that Miami still his a SEC championship.

456
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 2: There's no way I would have believed you. I'd been like,

457
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,919
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be that's no way. But like, and this

458
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,439
Speaker 2: was twenty five years. They've been back, like half of them.

459
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,640
Speaker 2: I they they've been back. Yeah, you was back there

460
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 2: doing it. But it's like, yo, but I mean this

461
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 2: was the year man, Like you didn't even like there's

462
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 2: nobody in your way, Like there's like Florida State's not good,

463
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,640
Speaker 2: there's always so many crystal balls way himself. This is wait.

464
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying, like, man, I knew that they

465
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 2: I knew that they were in for a long year

466
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 2: when they played against Notre Dame and he settled for

467
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 2: a field goal with the true freshman kicker at the

468
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 2: end of the game, and I was like, what do

469
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,679
Speaker 2: you do? Why would you put this game on a

470
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 2: freshman kicker? Yeah, and just that. Ever since then, I've

471
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 2: been waiting for it to fall apart, and here we are,

472
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 2: there's November. It always does.

473
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Speaker 3: How confused would you be in two thousand and four

474
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 3: if I told you Duke would have the same amount

475
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 3: of a SEC title game appearances as Miami.

476
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Speaker 2: I mean, dude, I mean, man, look, I mean I

477
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 2: you know, especially two thousand and four, because what that's

478
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 2: that's coming. So that's right, that's the Coker. That's the

479
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 2: last year Coker, right, and it's just like oh yeah,

480
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 2: they're going to get him out of there. They're going

481
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 2: to get somebody serious and they're going to just get

482
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 2: right back on top. Right. So yeah, no, I would

483
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 2: I would have first of all me at that time,

484
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: do kind of track around at stadium? They did? Yeah,

485
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 2: I used to make fun of it all the time.

486
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, right, you guys talking they had a track

487
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 2: around the stadium. I mean they were not that. That

488
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 2: is not a football program, right, Like that's a high

489
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 2: school football program. It's a high school. It's a high

490
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,479
Speaker 2: school football program. But look at their go look at

491
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 2: their recruiting classes and who the who they're competing against

492
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: for talent. This should it is it is. It's not

493
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 2: just Crystal Ball who's failed over these years. But this

494
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 2: should not happen Miami. I know, you know, it may

495
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,959
Speaker 2: not be you know, Alabama, it may not be Georgia,

496
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 2: but this should not be happening like this is this

497
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 2: is totally improbable, and so somebody is going to get

498
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 2: it right someday. I'm sure they are, but like this

499
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 2: is this should not be happening, and Knees fans have

500
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 2: every right to be pissed because it's absurd. Who does

501
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 2: LSU get? Man? What a question? You know? Man that

502
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 2: you know? I damn it, man. So there's a part

503
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 2: of you. I don't know which jobs are good anymore.

504
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: That's the problem I have, that idea if Old Miss

505
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 1: is a better job than Lsu anymore.

506
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: So they're definitely not getting Lane Kiffin. I think Lane

507
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: Kiffin is either going to stay at Old Miss or

508
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: go to Florida because he seems like a Florida guy. Man.

509
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 2: You know, I think that they're probably going to have

510
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 2: to end up with like a Glenn Schuman type of person,

511
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,719
Speaker 2: like the defensive coordinator at Georgia or something like that,

512
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 2: or you know, there was a point it was John

513
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: Sumrawl at Tulane looked like somebody that maybe you know,

514
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 2: but then he lost to Utsa and people are kind

515
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: of frustrated with him. So but I think it's gonna

516
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,719
Speaker 2: have to be like along the lines of a Glenn Shuman,

517
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 2: like the defense cordiaor Georgia, because you know, like, like,

518
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: first of all, you can look at that situation at LSU,

519
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 2: and although they do have a school president now and

520
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: they do have a full time AD, you can look

521
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: at the institutional like unsteadiness there and be like, why

522
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 2: would I if you're link Kiffin, why would I leave

523
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 2: old miss? Everything's in alignment here, I've got everything I need.

524
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: Most of the other coaches have already signed. The big

525
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: name coaches have signed extensions, and so the thing is

526
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: LSU fans have to prepare themselves for You're not going

527
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: to get a big name I'm sorry, Like that probably

528
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: is just not going to happen. You're just gonna have

529
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: to end up with a solid G five coach or

530
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 2: a good assistant. But that may be for the best,

531
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 2: Like that's how you can win. Like I mean, when

532
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 2: Nick Saban came down to LSU in nineteen ninety nine,

533
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: he was not Nick Saban right, Like, he was not

534
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 2: the same dude. Sometimes those can be Mike Elko over

535
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: at A and m A and m wanted Mark Stuukes dude,

536
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 2: like they were so you know what I'm saying, they

537
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 2: were going to hire Mark Stukes. So sometimes the guy

538
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: you end up with as opposed to the guy that

539
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: you target can be a win. Like, nobody knows who

540
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: these guys are going to be when they get there,

541
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: and so LSU may be doing yourself a favor by

542
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 2: not being able to have access to the big names

543
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 2: right now, Joe.

544
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 3: I feel like one of the most popular names for

545
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: these SEC jobs is Kenny Dillingham. And I know a

546
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 3: few Arizona State people and they're like, he's an alum,

547
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: he loves it here. They don't really realize the bags

548
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: that might get dropped on Kenny.

549
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to. I mean that's the thing.

550
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you love your school enough to

551
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: turn down, you know, five million extra dollars a year. Nope, Yeah,

552
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying.

553
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can visit Tempey in the off season,

554
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

555
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: And is Kenny ma is Kenny? Is Kenny Dillingham married?

556
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: He needs to be married if he's at Arizona State,

557
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 2: But if not, if not, there's no what are you alleging?

558
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 2: If he is married? He is married? He's married? Yeah,

559
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 2: all right, not long? I mean, well, if he's married,

560
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 2: his wife is not going to allow him to turn

561
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 2: down five million extra dollars a year. Good, right, you

562
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But think about Kennedy Dillingham and

563
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: do you guys remember Herman? Yeah? I get a strong

564
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: with for Tom Herman. Off of him, it was like

565
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: Tom Herman, everybody was excited about him. He did really,

566
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: really well, and then all of a sudden it was

567
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: just kind of like, you know, oh, yeah that he

568
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: had one really great year and but another pretty good

569
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: year at Houston, but nothing outstanding. And I'm just kind

570
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: of wondering I would just kind of like to see

571
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: a little bit more of Kenney Dillingham, like another couple

572
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 2: of years before we like anoint him as the next guy,

573
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 2: because I just I just don't know yet. And he's

574
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: doing at Arizona State, which you should be doing at

575
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: Arizona State. Arizona State is underperformed pretty much my entire life,

576
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 2: with the exception of a few years, and so he's

577
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: doing what he should be doing, which is credit to him.

578
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 2: But I kind of if I was an LSU fan,

579
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: I want to see it for another year or two

580
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: some for more proof of concept. Where does James Franklin

581
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: lose three to four games a year? Man, Well, you know,

582
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: I saw it was kind of funny because he was

583
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: it seemed like he was headed towards Virginia Tech. Like

584
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: that's what all the talk was, you know in the

585
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 2: industry right now, is that he was headed to Virginia Tech.

586
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: But I kind of feel like he wants that Auburn job, right, yeah, yeah,

587
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 2: And it's just like all right, if that, if you

588
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: want to be at Auburn, bro, good luck to you, brother.

589
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: That is not that auburns there, yes.

590
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and that does not seem like a fact.

591
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 2: You are the number two job in Alabama, Okay, And

592
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 2: like the only times that Auburn has won is like

593
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: there's been some sort of great crime, like they get

594
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 2: you know, like somebody got paid. Yes, yes, you know

595
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like Auburn is only good when they

596
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: were they were able to when cheating was a thing,

597
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: but everybody can cheat now. I just I just don't

598
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a great job. But it seems

599
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: like that's when he's sort of like lining up for.

600
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 2: But if if not that, it'll probably be Virginia Tech

601
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: and you lose three or four games a year there,

602
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: they'll be happy with that they would be You're right, yeah,

603
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: they'll be happy.

604
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: It's like, come on, cool with that low expectations, right,

605
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: the Ringer Tailgate podcast and the The press Box podcast

606
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: as well. What is going on with YouTube and ESPN? Man,

607
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: this should drive me fucking crazy.

608
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 2: Dog, This is so stupid. I thought this was going

609
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: to be settled by Monday, so you know what I

610
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 2: had to do on Saturday. I had to I got

611
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: this five day free trial with direct TV up tomorrow, okay,

612
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: and with the theory that they won't let this go

613
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: past Monday night football, right, you know? And then and

614
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: then they did so I man, I don't want to

615
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: keep direct TV no offense the direct TV I don't

616
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: know if they sponsored somebody here or whatever. Now, I

617
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: don't want that. I want my YouTube, I want my

618
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: multiview box. Yes, you know, yeah, yeah, they need to

619
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: figure this out. Man, I'm trying. Are they Are they

620
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 2: going to figure it out? Or what I mean?

621
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: I had to go to the ESPN app. I had

622
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: to use Weddingham's username and password. It's crazy.

623
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. I love that sounds

624
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: like my mom. So I mean, I thought if they

625
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: couldn't figure it out, about Monday. I have to assume

626
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 2: that this is going to be going on for a while, yes, right,

627
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: but I mean it's only making everybody mad. I mean

628
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: I was like, ESPN's not winning more fans with this,

629
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: and neither's YouTube TV because I realized, oh, I don't

630
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: watch YouTube TV if I don't have sports on. Right.

631
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: It's two billion dollar entities and they're getting in the

632
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: way of guys working nine to five, five days a week,

633
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: six days a week. They just want to sit down

634
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: to watch a fucking football and ever be easy.

635
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: I mean, the world is so like the world is

636
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: a mess right now. All we have this is football season? Right?

637
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: Why are you ruining football season? But this is what

638
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: we see. God, we need this right now. Why are

639
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: they trying to tear America apart? Okay, like, get your

640
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: ship together, figure this out, because I need I do

641
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: not want to have to go through another Saturday where

642
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: I have to watch one game at a time. That

643
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: is that is not that is un American. He's gonna

644
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: get that free trial from flu Blue TV. Oh yeah, whatever,

645
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: They've already done it. Yeah, okay, yeah, please or whatever.

646
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: I mean, there are some other there's some there's some

647
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: other websites too, right, which we could make this happen.

648
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, so we'll keep me in the loops. So

649
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: I need to do that, Stu.

650
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: I went to cancel my YouTube TV. I was like,

651
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to show them, and they're like, if you

652
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: cancel this, you cancel your Sunday ticket for the NFL.

653
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: And I was like, yep shit, they got me. Yeah

654
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: they do. They got your motherfucking balls and they know it.

655
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: They don't care. This is stupid, man. I just I

656
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: just want regular cable back, Like I really, I didn't

657
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: want any of this shit in the first place, like

658
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: they made me do this. I want cable. I don't

659
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: want to have to deal with any of I want

660
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: to figure this out. So please figure this shit out. Please.

661
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: You just want like comcasts back. I just want comcasts

662
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: or whatever. When I first had direct TV the first time,

663
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: it seemed like an amazing thing. And now that I've

664
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: been exposed to YouTube TV or I've got everything is

665
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: fractured in this way, then they're fine. But yeah, no,

666
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: I want it all back. Let's just go back and

667
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: have a bundle and I'll pay my one hundred and

668
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: ten dollars a month or whatever, how's d boy Billy

669
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: Gill doing?

670
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: For those of U for those of you in the

671
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: audience who don't know Billy is producing your podcast, how

672
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: was Billy doing?

673
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: Man? Billy is great. Man. We gotta get Billy on.

674
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: We gotta gig Billy on the mic. Man, He's like, Oh,

675
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: I don't know why he's acting afraid to come on

676
00:29:59,520 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: in there?

677
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: Is he allowed to? Because I would love to have

678
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: him on every day if I could listen.

679
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to get.

680
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: In the way of him doing the job for you,

681
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: because he's working for you, guys, and he's great. You

682
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: guys got a good boot. He's, in fact, I will

683
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: tell you this, not a good one. You guys got

684
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: the best one in Billy Gill. You really did. He's

685
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: fantastic and he's a better person than he is a producer.

686
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: But he's quirky and he's crazy, and he's terrified of

687
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: his own shadows.

688
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: So can you help me?

689
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: He won't respond to any of my texts, and I'm wondering, Joe,

690
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: can you help me get him on his own show?

691
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: Oh look, I'm a text him, man, I'm a text Billy,

692
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna make I'm going to make this happen

693
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: for you too, I promise, like I'm going to get him.

694
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to get him back up, man, because yeah,

695
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, he's trying to be like a professor,

696
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like he his first week

697
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: was we all met out in l A and the

698
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: Ringer we had like our week of meetings or whatever.

699
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: So I think he's just trying to pretend like he's

700
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: a professional and like a manager or something. We can

701
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: we can, we can get past that facade pretty quickly.

702
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: So I'm going to text him and tell him to

703
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: respond to your text to kill me.

704
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 3: So I was listening to the The ring Or Tailgate

705
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: podcast and one of Billy's ideas made the show because

706
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: people were complaining about the kicking competitions with McAfee. They

707
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: need to have some stakes to them because it's like

708
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: this kid either wins five hundred thousand dollars or nothing,

709
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: nothing happens to him. Billy proposed, if he misses the kick,

710
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: see a kid, you're out of school.

711
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: Oh, real stakes, because the five hundred grand date enough.

712
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: That's Billy right now. Oh man, that's that's some good shit. Yeah,

713
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: I mean, look, man, I mean, that's the kind of

714
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: genius that we're trying to get back onto. Mic. That's

715
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: actually and that's actually a great idea because we all

716
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: know that the value of a college education is decreased,

717
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: Like you know, you know, there's plenty of other schools

718
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: you could go to too, if you if you if

719
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: you miss right, you know, so, yeah, that's not a

720
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: bad idea. Billyeah right, you have to transfer right transfer

721
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: McAfee's choice. Yeah, man, oh man, nobody. I mean how

722
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: good of a school is West Virginia? I mean really,

723
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: I mean everyone who misses goes to West Virginia. Oh man, Yeah, Man,

724
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: like dog, I mean the pac Man pac Man Jones.

725
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: You Man, I was like you, only you only end

726
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: up in West Virginia if you did something wrong, you

727
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

728
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Wait, so John, I just want to be

729
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: clear now, perhaps we need to clear this with Bill.

730
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Okay, but you're saying that you're

731
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: okay with Billy Gill coming on the show here once

732
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: in a while, right.

733
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: Oh of course, Man, of course, Look I had to

734
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: you know, I don't we theoretically have to get permission

735
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: to go on the other shows, and it's kind of

736
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: I have so I told him I was, I'm gonna

737
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: be coming on there. It's like, oh yeah, great, do

738
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: it great? Whatever?

739
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, hell man, I'm wait, So Billy is the

740
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: person you asked permission for it?

741
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: Like you asked Billy. Now, he ain't my boss like that,

742
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: he's just the producer. But you you tell everybody, it's like, hey,

743
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: am I allowed to do this? We have a group

744
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: chat and they're like, oh yeah, absolutely, go do it.

745
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So of course we're gonna Bill.

746
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: I'm surprised Bill is being this way. Man, what's going

747
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: on down there? Man? No, listen, it's it's a new job.

748
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: He's excited about it, and he wants to be professional.

749
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: That's it. And he is professional like he is. Give

750
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: him a year and you'll see just how one profession

751
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: he could be.

752
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: But he's professional. He's not a professional. He's just fucking brilliant.

753
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: He's funny, he's quirky, and I think, for my money,

754
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: he's the best producer I've ever had.

755
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: Wow, it was a close second. Yes, okay, all right, man,

756
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: look man, the other day and I didn't even tell

757
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: Billy this. He came up with a couple of ideas

758
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: because nobody, you know, they start up a new show

759
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: at a at a podcast company and nobody cares about you. Man,

760
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: you don't have any you know what I mean, Like

761
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: this is brand new, you don't have an audience yet

762
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: you have to start a whole new feed, so you

763
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: kind of you working by yourselves to get to shit together.

764
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: And so Billy is like our first dedicated guy, and

765
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: he had all these great ideas. And I told Tate

766
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: and Van offline. I was like, man, it was pretty

767
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: fucking good. Man, we're gonna have We're gonna we're gonna

768
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: have somebody. Now. We got somebody on our corner. I

769
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: didn't even tell Billy that. So yeah, So Billy, if

770
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: you're listening to this, and you should, why wouldn't you

771
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: be listening to this? You know, we really we think

772
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: the world of you, bro.

773
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell him to turn on his microphone and talk. Okay, okay,

774
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: oh yeah, be afraid at the beginning.

775
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: We've been trying. I mean again, I tried to bring

776
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: him in when Miami lost last week and he didn't

777
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: want to come on. I was like, swat you, bro, going, well,

778
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: this is just a live stream. You know, there's only

779
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: like a few hundred people in here.

780
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 3: Come on, if you give him a dedicated segment to

781
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: talk FIU, that might be the window.

782
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: Who's the coach at FIU right now? No, that's a

783
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 2: great question.

784
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: Listen with Billy. You just got to wait. It might

785
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: take him eleven minutes to get to his point. But man,

786
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: can that guy land a fucking plane?

787
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: Okay? He gets like no one else in the history

788
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: of more business. I mean, it just.

789
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: Takes them eleven minutes to get there, like a five

790
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: minute It should be a five minute flight.

791
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: This is a fifteen minute flight. But he lands the plane. Man,

792
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 2: he really does. We'll see. We's see. I don't know.

793
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: We got three people talking, you know what I mean.

794
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, man, you're gonna have to keep it

795
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: a little cool because we all need our shot, you know,

796
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: so you have to tighten it up.

797
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: I enjoyed this very much, sir, the Ringertailgate podcast and

798
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: the press Box podcast.

799
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: This whill help Joel Anderson. I'd like to have you

800
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 2: around more often.

801
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: He's also the fastest ten year old in the history

802
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: of ten year olds.

803
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: That's right.

804
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: I would like to have you around here. More often

805
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: if possible, sir, please have me on. And by the way,

806
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: Willie Simmons is the head coach FIU. I forgot there

807
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: you go, so just to just declare I know who

808
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: it was. Just people people think I forget names and

809
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: ship like that.

810
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: It is Willy Simmons. But yes, anytime, dude, anytime, Taylor,

811
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: please have me back. All right, appreciate it, man, thank you,

812
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: all right. Unnecessary to give us the f i U

813
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: head coach, but no one. Yeah, well, I mean just

814
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: I want people to know that I know