1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,519 Speaker 1: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here with us. Everybody want to get 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: to a lot of your talkbacks and calls later on 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: this hour, so light up those lines as we make 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: our way through the news of the day and also 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: the talkbacks. We love your talkbacks. We hear all of them. 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: We play as many as we can. But go to 8 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck page on the iHeartRadio app, which 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: is also where you can listen to our great podcast network, 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: and you send us basically a voicemail a little microphone. 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: That's something that we've lost as well. The whole world 12 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: has lost it. The coming home from the office or whatever, 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: and having you know, you have seven messages. You know, 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: it's like, so this is a little bit used to 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: be super exciting. You still you didn't know it was blinking. 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: You're like, hey, who was this? And now that never happened. 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: It was invariably like a bill collector or something, and 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: you're like, this is sad. You know. Mail, actual physical 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: mail has just turned into a point of anxiety for me. 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: With the exception of the babies born, we got a 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: lot of gifts from so many people, is very calm. 22 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: We appreciate that. But the mail that goes into your mailbox, 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: it's never good. It's never anything that I want, really, 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: It's always just garbage. You know, it belongs a La Poubelle. 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: So I remember, I'm old enough to remember Buck. I 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: don't know if there was something that would come in 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: the mail that you were super excited to get back 28 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: in the day. For me, Sports Illustrated. I was like, 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: who was going to be on the coach issue? Which issue? Clay? 30 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: The swimsuit issue, of course was a was a was 31 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: a hot point in February that out that got banned 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: at my high school. So did me just a particular 33 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: one not allowed to have that? Of course you could 34 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: have the one with like Barry bonds on the covered 35 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: but right right illustrated yep, the d and they had 36 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: to do a special announcement, no maxim, no stuff, no 37 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated swimsuit, you know. Addition which a little totalitarian, 38 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: I was a little kind of living in North Korea 39 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: for a while there, Clay, except it was j It's 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: instead of the Kim family. I nineteen eighties, early nineteen nineties, 41 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: pre internet, the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue was absolutely iconic. 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: And I know there's a lot of people out there 43 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: listening right now that remember that very well. You'd be 44 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: you were super excited to go down and get it. 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: But every week leave aside the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue. 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: Who was on the cover used to be a monster deal, 47 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: one of your favorite players, one of your favorite teams. 48 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: You couldn't wait to see, who was going to be 49 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: the cover of Sports lit. I don't even know how 50 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: many times they publish Sports Illustrated now, you know, I 51 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: looked into trying to buy it when they we kick 52 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: the tires on that company and what it was going 53 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: to cost. But it's not a very good business right now. 54 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: So back to our talkbacks. Sent us the talkbacks on 55 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: whatever you want today and the best ones are the 56 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: most insightful or funniest. We'll play them for you in 57 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: the back of this hour, back in the next hour. Okay, 58 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: we talked first hour about this. I think this is 59 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: very interesting. First of all, as you know, beginnings of 60 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: a try deal framework with China market rallying hostage return 61 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: from hamas today. A lot of wins, right, a lot 62 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: of wins, but a story that Trump has also put 63 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: into the news cycle. Here has to do with the 64 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: resettling of some refugees from South Africa. Now, the administration 65 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: had spoken about this before Trump signed an EO on this, 66 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: and it's very interesting to see the objections to this. 67 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: I want to spend a little time on this, Clay 68 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: because I think this is a fascinating issue. And let 69 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: me just tell you first off, I think fifty of 70 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: them have been are in the process five zero five zero, okay, 71 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: on in the process of being resettled. I think you know, 72 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: we've seen that guy tied to MS thirteen. He had 73 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: like eight people in the car when the cops pulled 74 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: them aside at Brego Garcia, and they were saying that 75 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: the police said they believed that he was a human trafficker. 76 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: Fifty people is not a lot of people. But the 77 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: media is very very if the on this, very concerned 78 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: about this, A lot of questions all of a sudden, 79 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: after ten plus million people piled into the country, falsely 80 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: claiming by the numbers, go look at the court cases. 81 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: Over ninety percent of them not actually worth or you know, 82 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: should not get asylum, not actually people deserving of asylum. 83 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: Fifty South Africans show up and there's a problem with 84 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: this because they're white, and you say, you sit here, 85 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: you go hold on it. So is our policy that 86 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: you can't be a white refugee. That certainly would have 87 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: been news to a lot of Ashkenazi Jews during the 88 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: Second World War, like you can't be a white refugee. 89 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: This is Trump speaking about this play twenty five. 90 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: Now. 91 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 3: South Africa leadership is coming to see me, I understand 92 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: sometime next week. And you know, we're supposed to have 93 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: a guess at G twenty meeting there or something. But 94 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 3: we're having a G twenty meeting. I don't know how 95 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 3: we can go unless that situations taken care of. But 96 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 3: it's a genocide that's taking place that you people don't 97 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: want to write about. But it's a terrible thing that's 98 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: taking place. And farmers are being killed. They happen to 99 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 3: be white. But whether they're white or black makes no 100 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 3: difference to me. But white farmers are being brutally killed 101 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 3: and their land is being confiscated in South Africa, and 102 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: the newspapers and the media, television media doesn't even. 103 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: Talk about it. 104 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: If it were the other way around, they talk about it, 105 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: that would be the only story they talk about I 106 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: don't care who they are. I don't care about their race, 107 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: their color, I don't care about their height, their weight, 108 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: I don't care about anything. I just know that what's 109 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: happening is terrible to have people that live in South 110 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: Africa they say it's a terrible situation taking place. So 111 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: we've essentially extended citizenship to those people. 112 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: Play The media has generally written more skeptical and even 113 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: critical coverage of fifty white South five zero white South 114 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: Africans being resettled in this country under under refugee status. 115 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: Then they for four years of Biden with ten plus 116 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: million illegals being cartel human trafficked across the border. What 117 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: is going on? I think, I mean, I think we 118 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: know what's going on totally. And look this goes into 119 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: we talked about what an incredible weekend Trump had in 120 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: so many different positive results, and we should mention basically, 121 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: the stock market is now back at the price that 122 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: it was in January. Stock price is surging today, and 123 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: I hope that a lot of you did not buy 124 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: into that fear that they tried to drive Oh the 125 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: stock market's going to collapse. The government. You know that 126 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: our economy is going to collapse all that stuff. We 127 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: told you to stay calm, either buy more if you 128 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: had the ability to do it, or at least hold 129 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: on to your stocks. I hope you guys did. I 130 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: hope you didn't let the panic get to you. But 131 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: the thing that they're not talking about at all, to 132 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: your point, Buck, the southern border is one of the 133 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: biggest successes that I can remember any president ever saying 134 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: I will fix it. We are a lot from politicians 135 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: who basically make a living saying I will fix it, 136 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: and then they get into office and nothing really changes. 137 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: Can you remember in one hundred days? And it even 138 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: took less than one hundred days, It only took thirty. 139 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: Can you remember anything that a president has ever fixed 140 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: faster than what Trump did at the border? Such that 141 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: nobody even talks about it now, it's just now. It 142 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: was a huge story. It was a huge concern of 143 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: the American people going into this last election, as we know, 144 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: right alongside the economy, it was really one and two 145 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: economy one border two, and some polls border could even 146 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: outstrip the economy. Depends because the border of the economy 147 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: are tied together too. There's a lot of these things 148 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: are seen side by side. But remember, it's not just 149 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: Clay that he fixed it so quickly. It's that he 150 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: came in and fixed it so quickly. And the previous 151 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: occupant of the Oval Office had spent four years, through 152 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: his surrogates and through the media telling us it's so hard, 153 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: it's so complicated, we can't do anything to fix this, 154 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: which was always a lie, because of course they could. 155 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: One of the biggest changes isn't just the enforcement mechanisms 156 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: at the border. It is that what if we say 157 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: a million times to your Clay, we talked about the border, 158 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: It's about the incentives. If you think you can get 159 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: in and stay, a lot of people will come. People 160 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: now think, hold on a second, do I want to 161 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: pay a coyote five, ten, fifteen grand? Do I want 162 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: to deal with the cartels and show up in Mexico 163 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: and spend time in an immigration facility in America and 164 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: all this stuff? If I don't think I'm gonna get 165 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: to stay them, I get sent home. Completely changes the calculation. 166 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: But I did want to bring this back Clay to 167 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: why is there such I mean, here's the Associated Press 168 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: seen a reporting on this. Episcopal Church says it will 169 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: not help resettle white South Africans granted refugee status in 170 00:08:55,480 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: the US. Fiscal Church's migration service is refusing a direct 171 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: from the federal government to help resettle white South African's 172 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: granted refugee status, citing the church's long standing commitment to 173 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: racial justice and reconciliation. Presiding Bishop Rowe announced that after 174 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: forty nine South Africans departed their homeland bound for new 175 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: homes in the US, Episcopal migration ministries will halt its 176 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: decades long partnership with the government. But the Episcopal Church 177 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: is refusing to help with after forty years of oh yeah, 178 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: give it. You know, anybody will help anybody come into 179 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: this place and resettle them, they won't help these South 180 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: Africans be resettled. They are subject to state sponsored Now 181 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: they see this is why this is so hold on 182 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: what's going on in South Africa. You start to look 183 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: at this, what's happening in South Africa, Clay South Africa 184 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: is actually it has become a sort of final stage, 185 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, affirmative action state, if you will, where they 186 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: have of actual hard quotas so that you know, companies 187 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: like the board of a company has to be eighty 188 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: five percent black, and you know the employees of a 189 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: company have to be eighty five whatever I'm making up 190 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: the numbers, it's something like that. And the government also 191 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: is constantly flirting with more ways to take land from 192 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: white farmers in that country, and this has caused a 193 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of dysfunction. The government is insanely corrupt by 194 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: the way. It has economically been reduced to a horrible 195 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: rate of growth, and there's a lot of poverty and 196 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: crime and all these things. But there is open racial 197 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: discrimination by the state. That's what it is. Own. Our 198 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: own Supreme Court said you actually can't do this in 199 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: Harvard admissions. Well, you also shouldn't be able to do 200 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: this anywhere else. You shouldn't be able to discriminate on 201 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: the basis of race. And that's why there's such an 202 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: outrage here to bringing fifty five zero white South Africans 203 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: into this country under refugee status because they are being 204 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: discriminated against. This country is so unsafe that they don't 205 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: make women stop at red lights after dark in many 206 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: parts of the country. I mean, think about how unfortunate 207 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: that is. Any country where you just say and everybody 208 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: just kind of accepts it. Hey, if you're driving at 209 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: night and you're a woman, you don't have to stop 210 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: at a red light. Is a country that has been 211 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: completely taken over by criminal elements, and it's unfortunate that 212 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: that has occurred. And you know, I know when they 213 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: had the World Cup, the amount of security that was 214 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: required for the teams was off the charts. They basically 215 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: put all of the different teams at the World Cup 216 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: that South Africa hosted behind prison, you know, walls almost 217 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: in many ways to keep them from being able to 218 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: even go out in many parts of the country because 219 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: they were so concerned about the safety of the player 220 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: from all the different countries. That's a sign obviously that 221 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: things have fallen apart. And I think it's gotten worse 222 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: there in terms of safety for all people since and 223 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: it is unfortunate and the fact that you would make 224 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: that the uh the focal point. Again, the point is 225 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: none of the successes get talked about, and anything that 226 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: they can put in a negative light becomes a huge 227 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: part of the focus. Here here's how this this issue 228 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: is covered. For example, the New York Times, I want you, 229 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read this so you know exactly and this 230 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: was let me see, yeah, this is about a year 231 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: or two ago. New York Times. Kill the Boar Bore 232 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: is a reference to white South Africans. Kill the Boar 233 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: song fuels backlash in South Africa and US right when 234 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: commenters claim that an all apartheid chant is a call 235 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: to anti white violence, but historians and the left wing 236 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: politicians who embrace it say, don't take it literally. They 237 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: have songs in stadiums about killing the white people in 238 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: their country and they're allowed to chant and sing this, 239 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: And The New York Times is like, hold on, everybody, 240 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: maybe we just shouldn't take it literally. And given what's 241 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: going on in the country, it's not like everyone's getting 242 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: along great and the country's functioning really well, and yet 243 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: they will take that position on this. I just think 244 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: what you see here is that we have the left 245 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: in this country has decided that our immigration policy is 246 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: first and foremost about taking people from the impoverished third 247 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: world nations that are non white, and that that is 248 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: actually the focus of our immigration because otherwise, why fifty 249 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: migrants fifty migrants? Is I saw three hundred migrants coming 250 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: into the US at one time across the border. Fifty migrants. 251 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: We took ten million illegals in four years. So yeah, 252 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of amazing what the focal point is. And 253 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: that's now been stopped, and so this becomes a story. 254 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls, by the way, and 255 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: we'll also play some of your talkbacks coming forward. Eight 256 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: hundred and two two two eight A two. I want 257 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: to tell you though, mother's strongest instincts protect her young. 258 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: So by the time the term mama bear no joke. 259 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: Over the weekend, my wife, Laura, you know what she 260 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: wanted to do. She wanted to fire guns that she 261 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: has bought, and she wanted our boys to be instructed 262 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: and trained in how to handle firearms as well. That's 263 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: legitimately what we did yesterday. 264 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 4: Uh. 265 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: And Saber is the number one pepper spray brand trusted 266 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: by law enforcement. You know what, I'm gonna put my 267 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: fourteen year old on blast. 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Buck Let's 297 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: have some fun here. I don't know if you've heard 298 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: Trump earlier. You mentioned the semi glue tides? 299 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 4: Have you? 300 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: Did you hear Trump talking before he hopped on the 301 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: plane to head to the Middle East. We should mention 302 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: our buddy Sean Hannity, who's going to be on after us. 303 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be on today because 304 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: I saw him just post a video saying he's traveling 305 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: with Trump to the Middle East. So he just posted 306 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: a video that is up from Fox News shared it, 307 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: so I had not heard. But I'm I'm I don't 308 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: Maybe he can Maybe he can do that. Sean can 309 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: do a lot of things. Maybe he's gonna do the 310 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: show live from Air Force one as he flies to 311 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: the Middle East. But I imagine he's gonna have some 312 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: pretty cool stories and interviews coming. But that's where he 313 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: is right now. But Trump told a story talking about 314 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: the new drug plan that he has put in place 315 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: about one of his friends who is overweight, who is 316 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: upset about how much the fat shot drug cost. Listen 317 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: to cut twenty seven buck. I'm told this is fantastic. 318 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: I'll tell you a story. 319 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 3: Friend of mine who's a business man, very very very 320 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: top guy. Most of you would have heard of him, 321 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 3: a highly neurotic, brilliant businessman, seriously overweight, and he takes 322 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: the fat the fat shot drug. 323 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: And he called me up and he said President. He 324 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: used to call me Donald. 325 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: Now he calls me President, So that's nice respect. But 326 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 3: it's a rough guy, smart guy, very successful, very rich. 327 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 3: I wouldn't even know how we would know this, but 328 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: because he's got comments President, could I ask you a question. 329 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 3: What I'm in London and I just paid for this 330 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 3: damn fat drug I take. I said, it's not working, 331 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: he said, he said, I just paid eighty eight dollars 332 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 3: and in New York I paid thirteen hundred dollars. 333 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: What the hell is going on? I think that's indicative 334 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: of kind of the upset nature of so many people 335 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: out there. 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That'll bring you a website 344 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: where you can download the cfo's guide to AI and 345 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: machine learning. It's fast, it's easy, it's what's next. Get 346 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: hooked up at NetSuite dot com slash clay that's in 347 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: E T S U E suite like in a hotel room. 348 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: Dot com slash clay. All right, welcome back into Clay 349 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 1: and Buck. We're talking to immigration issues today alongside all 350 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: the big moves on national security and the economy and 351 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: drug prices and so much from just the last forty 352 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: eight hours has come down in this administration. That is newsworthy, important, 353 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: big moves being made, lots of progress happening, but all 354 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: on this issue. Again, as you can tell, I find 355 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: it very interesting as somebody who's followed the immigration issue 356 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: as one of the I think most important issues for 357 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: the country and something that I am most fascinated by 358 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: for the last decade or so. I mean, I've really 359 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: thought this was something that was critical to have a 360 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: real understanding of. Clay Stephen Miller makes the case here 361 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: for why taking some refugees from South Africa actually fits 362 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: the definition of what a refugee is, Unlike what's been 363 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: going on a southern border Play thirteen, what's. 364 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 6: Happening in South Africa fits the textbook definition of what 365 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 6: refugee program was created. This is persecution based on a 366 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 6: protected characteristic, in this case race. This is race based persecution. 367 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 6: Refugee program is not intended as a solution for global poverty, 368 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 6: and historically it has been used that way. Wherever there's 369 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 6: global poverty or wherever there's dysfunctional governments, then the US 370 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 6: refugee program in comes in. It swoops people up will 371 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 6: they relocates them to America. And you have multi generational 372 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 6: problems that the given into the second and third generation. 373 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 6: You have endemic poverty, you have prime issues, you have 374 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 6: integration issues. The US refugee program in America has been 375 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 6: a catastrophic failure. I mean, if you look, for example, 376 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 6: at the Twin Cities area. I mean just in terms 377 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 6: of the markers of educational outcomes, in terms of public safety, 378 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 6: in terms of welfare use. 379 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 4: And it's been a. 380 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 6: Complete public policy failure. And so this is an example 381 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 6: of the President. We're turning the refugee program to what 382 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 6: it was intended to be used. 383 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: As a refugee program that takes in refugees, as in 384 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: people who need refuge in your country because they are 385 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: under threat because of who they are. They can't change. 386 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: There's nothing they can do. It's either their skin color, 387 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: or their religion or their political party. This is what 388 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: a refugee program actually is. Claim. And you know we 389 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: have Mark in Charleston, South Carolina, is a former South 390 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: African and an immigrant to this country who wants to 391 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: weigh in. Mark, thanks for calling in. 392 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you, thank you for taking the call and 393 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 4: highlighting this very important issue. I'm regarding these guys who 394 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 4: are from South Africa. 395 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: What is the situation like? Tell us what you have 396 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: experienced and what littlemen know to be true. 397 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 4: I am I am. My dad was an American and 398 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 4: my mom is South African. So I grew up there. 399 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 4: Military there, you know, there we do two years conscription 400 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 4: and then you know, I served the situation in South Africa. 401 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 4: I mean it's a systematic elimination of white people from 402 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 4: a business front and from a crime front. For instance. 403 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 4: I'll give you a couple of examples. I was in 404 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: business there and they instituted a policy called Black Economic Empowerment. 405 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 4: So that meant, if I want to start a business, 406 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 4: I've got a million bucks to put into a business, 407 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 4: I have to take a black partner to access the 408 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 4: equivalent of the US SBA loan application system. So they 409 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 4: force you to, you know, partner with black people in 410 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 4: that case, and you will only whether that person has 411 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 4: the expertise or not, that doesn't matter. Going further than that, 412 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 4: the farmers had been systematically killed and attacked on their 413 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 4: farms for the last fifteen to twenty years. I think 414 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 4: the count is over fifty thousand already over the last 415 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 4: twenty years, and the government has done nothing to. 416 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: What can you just give people the background because you know, 417 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: we don't, we don't. It's not we don't hear a 418 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: lot about South Africa these days in our own media. 419 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: Why why is the land the farmer issue? You know, 420 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: why are they being targeted? What sort of the backstory 421 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: to that. 422 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 4: Okay, So so black people in South Africa value land 423 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 4: probably and cows probably above all else. And bearing in 424 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 4: mind the white population some of it is now down 425 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 4: to about four percent out of sixty six million only, 426 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: but the land issue has become a status symbol and 427 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 4: the getting rid of that. You've heard the story you 428 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 4: were alluding to early killed, the farmer killed the boy 429 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 4: that was those were those were literally chanted, as you said, 430 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 4: at public engagement places, football stadiums. One of this one 431 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 4: of the right, very extreme left wing guys with rather 432 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 4: than with Julius Malemmum, you advocated for killing white You 433 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 4: said it was fun. I mean we we all decided 434 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 4: to end up partheid, to end it and give everybody 435 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 4: a fair chance, and they systematic turned the whole system 436 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 4: against us. From the business point of view and from 437 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: a crime point of view, the fact that you mentioned 438 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 4: people women are not having to stop at traffic lights 439 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 4: at night, that is factual. In fact, we lived like 440 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 4: in a jail. I mean, you have many layers of security. 441 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 4: Are burglar bars in the windows, armed response to your house? 442 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 4: You kept guns in multiple positions in our I myself 443 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 4: kept guns all over the place, because you never know 444 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 4: when you're going to get a home invasion. It became untenable. 445 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 4: And even after in the military, serving all the time 446 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 4: I did in the military, right back to the time 447 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 4: when Castro sent twenty thousand troops in Tangola, when we 448 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 4: engaged in Earth, I just couldn't take take it anymore. 449 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 4: It just became the PTSD was just setting in on 450 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: the Thomer civilian front, never mind a military front. So 451 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 4: I'm very happy that President Trump allowed these guys to 452 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: come in. I wish you allow all the farmers to 453 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 4: come here, because South Africans of great farmers and they 454 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 4: could do a lot for this country. 455 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: How sorry I was just how difficult was it for 456 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: you to come to the United States? What was the 457 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: process like? 458 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 4: WHI very easy? You know, for me, it was very easy. 459 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 4: I was blessed that my dad was was from Texas. 460 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 4: He was a pastor and sent over there to start churches, 461 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 4: et cetera. And you know, I've always had a US citizenship, 462 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 4: so I came over the very often. 463 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: You said your mom was South African and you were 464 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 1: raised there, That's right, So you had American citizenship, so 465 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: you were able to come here easily. 466 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 4: I was very blessed to have that. 467 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: And do you think a lot more do you think 468 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: a lot more white South Africans will come and want 469 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: to come if the door is kept open in this 470 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: way for the refugee program by Trump. 471 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and and South Africans have a very good work ethic. 472 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 4: You can find that out in any country that we settled. 473 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 4: We don't do crime. We work, and we worked properly, 474 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 4: and we adhere to the laws of the country. I'm 475 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 4: like these millions of they balking at these millions of people, well, 476 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 4: absolutely slaunting all you laws and the constitution. 477 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the people coming across our border in 478 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 1: so many cases are not only thank you so by 479 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: the way, great perspective. Thank you so much for calling in. 480 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: Mark appreciates you. But yeah, people show I mean, Clay 481 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: I saw this. They show up at the border. They 482 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: have these wristbands on. You can see piles and piles, 483 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: and border patrol has all this, you know, photos and 484 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: footage of this of the wristbands to show, Oh, I've 485 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: paid off the cartel. Don't worry. The cartel's already got 486 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: their human trafficking money from me. Tom Holman talks about 487 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: the horrible stuff that goes on at our southern border 488 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: too because of the cartels and with like young girls 489 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: and women. It's it's it's absolutely horrific and it's systematic, 490 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: and that's been you know, the the sex crimes and 491 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: against very young girls. The cartels do this and and 492 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: there's no you know, no accountability on that side of 493 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: the border, and they're not going to get caught. All 494 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: this horrible stuff that's going on, and Biden doesn't do 495 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: it's not even didn't left the finger to stop it. 496 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: That was the decision they made. That was the price 497 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: of doing business for the Biden border policy was all 498 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: the horrible stuff and the murderers who came in this 499 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: country and all this, but fifty white South Africans who 500 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: are like, you know, my country doesn't really want me 501 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: anymore and treats me terribly because of I can't do 502 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: anything about it. It's because I am white. I was 503 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 1: born this way. And the media clearly has a problem 504 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: with it, and people at the Episcopal Church is a 505 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: problem with it. I mean that that was a real, real, 506 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: you know shock, And I would just say this though 507 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: as a South Florida guy. Now, people who have people 508 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: who have been welcomed lawfully into America by the American community, 509 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: who have fled tyranny. In the case South Florida, it's 510 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: fled Castro's communism. And you know, people who fled the 511 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: Khmer Rouge and Paul Pott and Cambodia, people who I 512 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: believe now are going to be fleeing the race based 513 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: targeting that goes on in South Africa. They make great 514 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: Americans because they really true of a lot of people 515 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: in the former Soviet Union too. They see what can 516 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,479 Speaker 1: go wrong in a country that does not have freedom, 517 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: that does not treat people equally based on, you know, 518 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: the same, irrespective of skin color, irrespective of religion. They 519 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 1: really appreciate this place, and that's what we want from 520 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: a refugee program. We don't want people who are like 521 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: I can make more money here and send remittance is 522 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: back home and I'm not going to learn the language. 523 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: And America owes this to me because this is what 524 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: people tell me at the border. That's what we don't want. 525 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: By the way, Greg and South Dakota says a lot 526 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: of the people farming around him are South African too. 527 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: I think he wants to weigh in and tell us 528 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: about his story as well. Greg, what have you got 529 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: for us? What is your experience. 530 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: With a farm in South Dakota And we hire a 531 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: custom harvester out of Minnesota and he brings in every 532 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: year eighty to one hundred South Africans on that I 533 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: don't is it HG one. 534 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: Whatever that or to HB one whatever the yeah? 535 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, anyway, visiting with those guys back in twenty sixteen, 536 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: they were they were such pro Trump people when he 537 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: got elected, and they told the horror stories about it. 538 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 2: That one guy has had a friend who they went 539 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: out to his friend's farm, they took him and his 540 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: wife and his two daughters captive. They they cut both 541 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: arms and both legs off of him and what made 542 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: him watch him die while they raped his wife and 543 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: his daughters. And they talked about these things going on, 544 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: horrendous things that you just can't comprehend being here where 545 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: we're at. And yet these people I have never come 546 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: across people who are so appreciative of what you do 547 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: for them. They're such Christian young men. They can make 548 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: more in the United States working here in one month 549 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: than they can a full year back in South Africa. 550 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: And they send their money back. That's that's what they're 551 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: here for. And this morning when I heard President Trump 552 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 2: on the TV at the White House talking about it, 553 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: I called two or three of them this morning again 554 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: and visited with them. And they're here right now. And 555 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: one guy left his wife and two daughters. This is 556 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: the fifth year he's been here. And my son said 557 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: to him. Last year, the crew and we always meet 558 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: every morning. And when the day was, when the harvest 559 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: was over, we said to the one guy that said, 560 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: you just you just don't know how much we appreciate 561 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: you young men. And they said, I said, to come 562 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: halfway around the world. You don't know what you're coming to. 563 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: And the young guy said to us, he goes, sir, 564 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: we have to come halfway around the world to be appreciated. 565 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: I did not know how to respond to that. I 566 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: just yeah, wow, yeah, but it. 567 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: Was great as well. You know, for those of you 568 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: who are are are curious. Uh, there's a there's a documentary. 569 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: Now this is about Zimbabwe, not South Africa, but there 570 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: was there has been a similar redistribution program of the 571 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: land in effect there uh and and a lot of 572 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: pressures on it. And it's called Mugabe and the white 573 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: African It's a documentary, you know, PBS has it. It 574 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: was Clay, it was have you ever seen this. It 575 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: was filmed filmed clandestinely, so it's all it's real footage. 576 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: And it's a white farmer in Zimbabwe next door under 577 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: Mugabe dealing with the land redistribution program, which the world says, oh, 578 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: but that's only fair because there's so many more black 579 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 1: people than white people in Zimbabwe, and so yeah, what 580 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: it means is that government thugs show up and like 581 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: threaten to kill you and rape your wife unless you 582 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: hand over your land. That's actually what it means, and 583 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: that's state policy, and that was next Door. It hasn't 584 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: gotten you know, it hasn't gotten the attention that you 585 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: would think it would. And I think it's because so 586 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: many in this country have adopted this narrative that racism 587 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: can't be against white people, and that's really what this 588 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: all comes down to, and of course it can. Racism 589 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: can be against any person based on their race. And 590 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: by the way, I do know the economic result of 591 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: that in Zimbabwe was the entire economy in the country 592 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: collapsed because some of the most productive parts of Zimbabwe 593 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: were agricultural and it probably won't surprise you that when 594 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: the government got involved and took over the land, the 595 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: actual success of the farming industry collapsed. So it wasn't 596 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: just you were taking the land, it was you were 597 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: destroying the jobs created by the land that was helping 598 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: to feed the people of Zimbabwe. And what and what 599 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: you by the way, Zimbabwe, I mean, Mugabe and the 600 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: and the White African is a fantastic documentary and it 601 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: did not get as much attention in this country as 602 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: it should. By the way, anyone who watches it, it 603 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: is very powerful, and it's very well done, and it 604 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: is haunting. Uh and you know, I think in the 605 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: end he testifies at the Hague. Anyway, I don't I 606 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: don't know to give away stuff, but you should watch 607 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: it if you want to know kind of what happens 608 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: in some of these places where they don't adhere to 609 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: the principle that all men are created equal. You can 610 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: see exactly what goes on. It is really really good documentary. 611 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: So I would just I would recommend that to you. 612 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: But Clay, to your point, Zimbabwe was wassid of the 613 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: bread basket of Africa and then it turned into a 614 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: place with hyperinflation and can't feed itself. And something else 615 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: you see in the documentary that you will not hear 616 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: talk about in the Western media is the these white 617 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: farmers in Zimbabwe, this family that's been there for like 618 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: six generations. Okay, it's not like they're you know, they 619 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: just showed up yesterday. This this family of farmers, they 620 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: have like one hundred black people who live with them, 621 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: work with them, they're close with on the successful farm, 622 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: who rely on the farm for their families. They're getting 623 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: paid and they're a part of this and it goes well. 624 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: And then I guess what happens when the land redistribution happens. 625 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: Government thugs show up, they say this is our land. 626 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: Now they sell off all the farm equipment, they sell 627 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: off everything, They burn the house down, and now no 628 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 1: one has a job and no one has food. And 629 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: that is what happened in that country on scale, or 630 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: rather in scale en masse. And it's worth it's worth 631 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: noting for those of you who want to see this. 632 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm telling it's a really good documentary. All right. 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Two guys walk up to 658 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: a mic. 659 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 7: Anything goes Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on 660 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 7: the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 661 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 662 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the 663 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: Monday edition of the program. Tons of big news. I 664 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: will mention stock market absolutely on fire today. Biggest news 665 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: the tariffs back down and an expectation of a more 666 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: detailed explanation of exactly what the future will look like. 667 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: Thirty percent tariffs is now going to be the case 668 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: for the next ninety days. Stock market, the Dow up 669 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: over one thousand points, and the S and P five hundred, 670 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: which is the index of the five hundred artist companies 671 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: in the United States, also surging very close to Buck 672 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: being up for the year now, which is a oh wow, 673 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: they told you, hey, things are gonna fall apart of 674 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: three percent alone today if you happen to buy near 675 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 1: the bottom you have made twenty percent in about a month. 676 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: Stock market averaged around the nine percent eight percent return 677 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: SMP five hundred historically, so you have more than doubled 678 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: what the stock market would usually do in a year 679 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: if you were buying on the dip. Pretty good time. 680 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: Did I not say the name of the documentary on air, 681 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,439 Speaker 1: because some people are asking me again? You said several times, Yeah, 682 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: Magab and the White African. Yeah, go check it out, everybody. 683 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it. It sounds super fascinating. Satin, it's really good. 684 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: Large would like it too, I mean it's haunting. Yeah, 685 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: I need to check it out for sure. When we 686 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: come back, Nicole Safire will join us. We'll talk to 687 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 1: her about the president's move on drugs, what she thinks 688 00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: about that, and more.