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Speaker 1: I am all in. Let's you.

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Speaker 2: I Am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 3: Hey guys, an extra special pop culture minisode for you. Today,

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Speaker 3: we've got Teddy Mellencamp, daughter of John Mellencamp. We heard

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Speaker 3: her dad's reference a few weeks ago in season six,

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Speaker 3: episode thirteen Friday Nights all Right for Fighting, when Luke

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Speaker 3: and Laurel I awkwardly bump into each.

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Speaker 4: Other in the morning.

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Speaker 3: So we have to talk to her about it. See

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Speaker 3: if she knows of this mention about her dad. Let's

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Speaker 3: get her on.

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Speaker 4: Hi guys, Hey Teddy, how you doing?

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Speaker 1: Welcome?

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Speaker 5: Hi Teddy, Hi, so good to see everybody.

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Speaker 6: Welcome to our mandness. Oh look how professional?

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Speaker 1: Yo?

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Speaker 6: Get that?

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Speaker 4: I have one of those and it's too bright. I

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Speaker 4: can't have it in my office. I got to figure

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Speaker 4: out a way to use mine.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's the chaos this morning with four kids

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Speaker 2: needing to be out the door at nine ten. But

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Speaker 2: I was like, I love Gilmore Girls so much.

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Speaker 5: I have a couple of minutes to zip in.

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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you so much, thank you. When did you

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Speaker 4: first discover Gilmore Girls?

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Speaker 2: I discovered Gilmore Girls during the pandemic. My daughter had actually,

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Speaker 2: right before the pandemic, she had amputated the tip of

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Speaker 2: her finger, which sounds like a very like traumatic story.

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Speaker 2: But there was very few shows that we could watch

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Speaker 2: together and really, you know, like all it didn't seem

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Speaker 2: too mature for her, but it also was mature enough

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Speaker 2: that it opened up so many good conversations for us,

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Speaker 2: and so like, I'm not kidding, we I mean, we

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Speaker 2: couldn't have watched more episodes are healing?

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Speaker 4: How old was she at the time?

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Speaker 5: She was ten?

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, yeah, did.

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Speaker 6: You get to the episode where your dad is mentioned?

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Speaker 2: I did, But now once you guys texted me, I

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Speaker 2: was like, I remember being excited when I heard it,

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Speaker 2: but now you guys have to refresh my memory.

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Speaker 7: We will, but I just think that would be so

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Speaker 7: so when they mentioned, you know, Mark Ballast from Dancing

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Speaker 7: with the Stars. Yes, so there's a moment where his

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Speaker 7: parents are mentioned, same exact thing, and we like kind

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Speaker 7: of lost our minds and immediately called him and got

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Speaker 7: him on, Like, I wonder what would be more weird

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Speaker 7: of you being mentioned in pop culture or your parents,

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Speaker 7: because that's.

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Speaker 6: Sort of more iconic. You're like, my dad just got

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Speaker 6: a shout out.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty sure I'll never get a shout

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Speaker 2: out on a show like Gilmour Girls, so they'll be

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Speaker 2: like and then that really crazy housewife that.

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Speaker 5: Caused a lot of problems. But no, it's really cool.

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Speaker 2: And it's also like, you know, I think that's a

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Speaker 2: beautiful thing about music, as it will bring you back

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Speaker 2: to a memory no matter where you are in your life.

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Speaker 2: Like I can barely remember anything I learned in school,

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Speaker 2: high school, you know, throughout my life. So it's like

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Speaker 2: you just retain those that information in those.

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Speaker 1: Liar, you sure do?

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Speaker 8: You sure do.

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Speaker 4: The other day, I was watching Caream reunion videos Eric

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Speaker 4: Clapton and Ginger Baker in two thousand and five they

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Speaker 4: and I was just like flooded with memoris. It was

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Speaker 4: just bizarre. It's all of this old waves of emotion

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Speaker 4: coming just from that music. It's amazing how it triggers it,

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Speaker 4: isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you can you find that emotion immediately,

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Speaker 2: how you felt in that moment when you first heard it,

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Speaker 2: or like that relationship you were in during it, or

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Speaker 2: I mean, like every time I even hear like Casey

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Speaker 5: Meant or said, it's so inappropriate.

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Speaker 7: It's so funny you say that because we'll read you

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Speaker 7: the line about your dad, but it refers to hurt

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Speaker 7: so good. But when we immediately, when we're talking about it,

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Speaker 7: you literally all you have to say is little ditty,

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Speaker 7: Like Scott was immediately laughing, and we're all like, oh

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Speaker 7: my god, like two words from your dad's song, and

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Speaker 5: And it's pretty cool. There's a couple of those like

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, the most Banana's part is that

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Speaker 2: after you hear something like little Ditty or any of that,

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Speaker 2: and I watch sit with my kids because at this

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Speaker 9: Jack and Diane so crazy?

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Speaker 4: I want to depart too much from what we're doing here.

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Speaker 4: Did you go on tour with him back in the day.

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Speaker 2: I did, but I was so young that, like I bear,

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Speaker 5: And also I didn't grow up in La.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't an La kid, so it wasn't like there

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Speaker 2: was like this element of fame and paparazzi's chasing you down.

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Speaker 2: Like I just thought, like the same way that like

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Speaker 5: I mean.

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Speaker 2: The only time where it really like hit me in

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Speaker 2: this day, when I saw Mommy kissing Santa Claus comes

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Speaker 2: like trying to shake the tambourine in the video, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, how do I I can remember all the

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Speaker 5: I thought that was just our life.

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Speaker 4: And did your dad have a recording studio on the property?

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Speaker 4: Is that where they recorded the songs, so they go

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Speaker 4: to LA or New York and record.

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Speaker 2: No, he never went to LA in New York. No,

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Speaker 2: I mean he was born in a small town.

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Speaker 5: He still lives in that same small town, no he.

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Speaker 6: I mean you have to also.

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Speaker 2: Remember when I was born, was before his birth, Like

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Speaker 2: The differences and where you know, we lived, what like

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Speaker 2: which is also his office, which is it's called like

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Speaker 2: a Belmont, which is in like this near Seymour, Indiana.

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Speaker 9: I mean, tell me once, like that you were when

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Speaker 6: Lived in the biggest house in town.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like it was all my pictures from you know,

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Speaker 5: It like a baby.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we I still drive by this house to

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Speaker 5: Even can see it. It's off in the corner, like

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Speaker 2: Like I all I really remember about that house is

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Speaker 2: like just it. That's really my only memory and then

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Speaker 5: We live in a house that like will never be

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Speaker 2: In Bloomington, Indiana because a is going to buy it.

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Speaker 2: Were their little pink houses, but we painted the pink

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Speaker 5: We went and painted the pink houses. But that's Seymour

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Speaker 5: where my dad grew up, which is you know Seymour

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Speaker 5: as of ours. That so Bloomington is like where IU is.

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Speaker 2: So people kind of know Bloomington now because that that

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Speaker 5: Actually, one of my producers on Two Teas.

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Speaker 2: And Indiana and so and we all know that, but

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Speaker 2: Seymour is about forty five minutes outside of Bloomington, And

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Speaker 2: I mean that is the epitio. Like the biggest shopping

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Speaker 2: center is like a J. C. Penney and like it

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 7: I was just about to say, you think like it's

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Speaker 7: random that you're from Indiana, But in our small group

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Speaker 7: of people that all work together, you're from Indiana. Our

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Speaker 7: producer Kendall and Ben Higgins from the Bachelor.

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Speaker 6: Is also from Indiana. So Indiana represents.

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Speaker 8: Indiana represents Wait will you read to the line, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: read the line it's so Laura I says it hurts

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Speaker 8: so good as mister Mellencamp said, is it bleeding?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, what happened right before? Somebody?

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Speaker 10: Right before they Luke and Laurel I just bump into.

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Speaker 1: Each other's right acting from Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean because that line, taking out of context, souths.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like it's not really family friendly.

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Speaker 5: But I I'll just talk about that being a family

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Speaker 10: Wait, Teddy, I have a question though. So we were

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Speaker 10: watching this episode the scene that Rory says that her

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Speaker 10: dad is hot, like, soay was like, oh, I have

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Speaker 10: a hot Yeah. If someone says to you like, oh

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Speaker 10: my god, like your dad's so hot, or I have

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Speaker 10: a crush on your dad. Does it make you cringe?

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Speaker 6: Or are you like, oh do it all the time?

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Speaker 6: To Teddy, she doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Well, you have to also remember my dad's dated a

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Speaker 2: have gotten pretty calloused when it comes to that.

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Speaker 5: But I think, I mean, I don't know, Like just.

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Speaker 2: You have to understand my dad is the kind of

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Speaker 2: guy that it's like he's always like, you know, you

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Speaker 2: kind of think of him and he's like reserved, pulled

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Speaker 2: back and you know, like mister cool guy. But like

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Speaker 2: when the grandkids are there for the holidays, like he's

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Speaker 2: the one that's like gonna come in his like dorky

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Speaker 2: socks on, and like he's just always as much as

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Speaker 2: he is reserved in an introvert, he's always an entertainer,

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Speaker 2: whether it's your family or whatever. Like he knows how

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Speaker 2: to bring the excitement and make you feel special, whether

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Speaker 2: it's his music or his paintings, or his relationship with

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Speaker 2: his grandkids or texting me all in caps when I

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Speaker 2: tell him that's yelling and it hurts.

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Speaker 7: I told I love when I text Teddy pe Pauw's

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Speaker 7: looking good and she just sends the barf emojis. Like

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Speaker 7: I told the story how people like on a breakfast

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Speaker 2: Well, Gilmore Girls has changed so many lives for so

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Speaker 5: Of put it apart. And we always want to lie

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Speaker 7: It's the thing about the show that it just has

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Speaker 6: It's just so amazing you're discovering it. Yeah, just same

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they meet me and there's this their six year

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Speaker 2: I mean we had opera versions of it, like we

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Speaker 5: So we are so grateful to you, and we love

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Speaker 4: We love thank you so much. And I loved meeting

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Speaker 6: Merry Christmas, Happy New Year. We love you.

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Speaker 4: Bie guys, best of your father.

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Speaker 7: I almost think it's cooler to have a relative being

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Speaker 6: So cool that was, She's brilliant, she's awesome. She's awesome.

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Speaker 4: Wow man oh man, oh man.

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Speaker 4: God him getting all emotional.

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Speaker 6: Oh that's so sweet. I know, isn't.

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Speaker 4: She's so nice, she's so yeah, she just hit me

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Speaker 6: Oh so sweet.

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Speaker 4: Wow, everybody, and don't forget Follow us on Instagram at

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Speaker 4: I Am All In podcast and email us at Gilmore

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