WEBVTT - Evan McMorris-Santoro & Dan Osborn 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.120 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.680 today's best minds, and a CNN poll says a whopping 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:17.880 seventy seven percent of Americans blamed President Trump for increasing 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:21.680 the cost of living in their community. We have such 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.720 a great show for you today. Notices Evan McMorris. Santoro 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:31.840 stops by to talk about the Trump administration considering classifying 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.400 Tucker calls and as a domestic terrorist. Then we'll talk 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:39.760 to Nebraska Senate candidate Dan Osborne about his run as 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:43.240 an independent in the state. But for the News. 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.960 Smiley, we have an Ald timer. President Trump loves to 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.720 say the quiet part out loud. This is saying, uh, 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:54.440 the thing we all know about him, real fucking loud learned. 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.720 Negotiating with the rhymes. The president a. 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.600 Motivating to make it feel not even a little bit. 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.600 The only thing that matters, we're not talking about I run. 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.240 They can't have a duplear weapon. I don't think about 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:12.800 American financial situation. I don't think about anybody. I think 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.280 about what thing we could not let Iran have a 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.280 duclear weapon. That's all heard. 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:19.720 That's the only thing about. 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:24.720 It look, man, again, I think it's going to be 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.560 a hard sell to the American people because your gas 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.880 is a dollar more gallon, and Trump is bad. 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.280 It's way more than a dollar when you go at 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:34.720 most points. 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.520 Yes, okay, but it's it's a lot more a gallon. 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.440 And he's like, but this is all about the Middle East. 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.119 And you know, even when like if you think about 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:48.960 the last Gulf War, uh, it was after nine to eleven, 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.120 so there was at least like we had been hit 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.320 by terrorists, we had been all these people had died. 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.320 It was more than you know, it was quite a 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.880 lot of people. There is a feeling that America was 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:06.960 really under attack, and even then the war was unpopular. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:10.320 Here is a war where Trump barely even made a 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:14.360 case for doing it. It has already made life significantly 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.440 more expensive. And instead of saying something the effect of 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.840 like it's going to be over soon, which has been 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.160 one of the things, or it's already over, which is 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.760 one of his favorite things to say, he's just now 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:29.000 pivoted to like, know it was just which it wasn't, 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:30.880 and it isn't and it's still going on. 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.720 Yeah, just as one of those things that you could 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.799 see this being in ads for the next three years 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.960 because it really really says everything about him. Okay, we 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.120 now have to talk to a person with a nickname 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:43.760 that I think none of us would like to have, 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:45.960 the human printer, Natalie Harp. 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.120 You may remember her from earlier in this season. 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.720 Yeah, yea, I have the thing with her. We hear 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.000 about her so infrequently that I kind of forget her 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:58.120 a lot. But so the point being, after this Trump 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.680 truth tirade the other night, apparently the other aids are 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.880 quite pissed at the way she enables these things. I 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.440 will say I had to google let me she searched 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.760 her to refresh my brain, and she really looks like 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:12.880 a character out of American horror story to me. 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.720 I'm not going to say anything about how anyone looks, 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:19.080 but I will say that she's thirty four years old. 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.960 She basically spends almost all her time with Trump, and 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.680 she prints things out and gives them to him. Now, 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:32.400 this Wall Street Journal reporting says that people in Trump world, 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:36.600 and again like the people in this administration, are feeling 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.640 more and more like they had less and less control 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.600 over Trump. They never had much control. They were picked 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.280 because they didn't have control but now it feels like 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.600 they can't even really sort of can keep him from 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:52.440 acting in a certain kind of crazy. Basically, she has 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:57.760 been working these twilight hour shifts. I don't know. That 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:02.760 seems pretty odd. We tend not to have aids working 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.520 twilight hour shifts, but okay. 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.720 What about an AID who lives at your golf course. 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:12.000 Anyway, she has created the impression that the president never 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:17.600 sleeps and is instead spending his should be bedtime obsessively 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:23.760 retweeting baseless conspiracy theories and about the twenty twenty presidential 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:28.839 election and Fox News headlines about his purported popularity among 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:33.560 the American public. We did see a lot of tweeting, 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.039 like I think it was the night before. There have 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:39.800 been a couple nights where he has been you know, 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:44.640 ten thirty, ten thirty two, ten thirty five, ten thirty seven, 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:50.440 one AM, one forty five. And so there is tension 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:54.680 now between Harp and some of the federal employees affected 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:59.920 by her insandiatory writings. So I guess she is either 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:04.119 writing these tweets or helping him write these tweets, and 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.000 one of them, so they're sort of set. I feel 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.120 like they're setting her up to fall and saying that 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:14.720 she is doing his social media. I have trouble believing this, 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.080 but if the Wall Street Journal is reporting it, they're 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:22.000 pretty legit. Her work, according to whoever is a leaking 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:27.040 to the journal, has included posts that depicted Barack and 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:31.320 Michelle as apes, and an AI generated image of Trump 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:36.120 as Jesus Christ. You will remember the Trump as Jesus 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:40.880 meme was incredibly problematic and pulled it, you know, like 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.680 something like seventy percent of all Catholics were horrified by it, 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.159 and ultimately he did in fact take it down. 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.120 You know, I said, I have a group chat with 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.800 a bunch of social media managers where we discuss how, 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:54.760 you know, how we push these podcasts out. And I said, 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.799 you know, it's very telling that the most powerful social 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:01.920 media manager at America is also the world worst at 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:02.440 their job. 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.719 Yeah, it's funny because it's like all of this is 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:10.080 so siloed, so in some ways Trump is still really 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.640 his own social media manager. And I have just trouble 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.320 believing how much of this I think this is still 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.560 a Trump you know, maybe she gets set up to 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.600 evolve and just have trouble believing this. 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.680 Something I don't have trouble believing is that the White 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:26.040 House would host a massive Christian nationalists festival. 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:29.400 So the White House is planning a nine hour Christian 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:34.480 prayer festival on the National Mall. And this is reporting 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:39.480 from the Washington Post, which is owned by Jeff Bezos, 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:43.280 Jeff Bezos, who has crushed the opinion section of the 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:47.599 Washington Post. The Trump administration is hosting an all day 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.520 prayer festival on the National Mall on Sunday that organizers 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:56.279 will reflect the country's Christian origins and they hope spark 0:06:56.400 --> 0:07:02.279 a moment of renewal in America. This is completely nuts. 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:08.080 Rededicated two hundred and fifty National Jubilee of Prayer, Praise, 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:13.880 and Thanksgiving funded by our fucking federal government, partially funded 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:17.280 by millions in public dollars, the nation's two hundred and 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:21.600 fiftieth birthday public dollars. That's your tax dollars paying for 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:25.800 this crew to prey on the mall. And you know 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:29.080 who it's run by. Oh, you are going to love this. 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:34.760 Oh I know, yeah, Trump's favorite Reverend Paula White Cane. 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:43.320 Pretty problematic. She is a televangelist who is hot. I 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:44.560 think that's pretty much it. 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.560 You can see just but I was waving my arm 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.200 emphatically because that's what she loves to do. 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:51.840 She has the severer arms around. 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:59.880 She's a big evangelical. She spoke at his inauguration. She 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:04.400 is she was involved in the nomination. She was present 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.080 when Trump met with advisors to discuss the nomination of 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:13.400 Neil gorsicch she has she is a Florida I mean, 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:15.840 do you even want to know? I mean, like, it's 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.040 like Tammy fay Baker Part two. 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:20.320 That's a great reading. Okay. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.920 So one of the things we've seen is the ballroom 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.040 just keeps getting more and more expensive. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.280 But it's on budget. No, no, no, no, it's under budget. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:28.040 It's under budget. 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.560 Now we have the Golden Dome, which I'm going to 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.920 shock you, Molly, it's going off a budget. 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:36.120 So first of all, I want to point out the 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:39.600 ballroom whatever. We don't even need to talk about the 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:43.600 billion dollars that the Republicans are trying to get through 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:49.160 in reconciliation to fund Trump's supposed public ballroom that was 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.120 supposed to be free, that was supposed to be paid 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:55.719 for by corporations, Trump's Golden Dome missile defense plan. So 0:08:55.800 --> 0:09:01.160 this is Trump is jealous. Israel has a dome missile defense, 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:05.880 so he wants us to have one. Here's the story. 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.640 We can't have one because we don't need one, because 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:15.000 our country is surrounded by water. Israel is right sandwiched 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.680 in the middle of the Middle East, and as enemies 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:22.520 very nearby, we do not. And so it is a 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:26.000 stupid idea. But it's also, like so many of Trump's 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:31.600 stupid ideas, it is also a very very, very expensive idea. 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:36.280 So Trump has come up with something that is both 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:44.040 stupid and expensive. And I am just so unsurprised because 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:48.360 stupid and expensive does seem to be the watchword of 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:55.760 this administructure. Hey, it's Molly john Fast here. My memoir 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.040 How to Lose Your Mother is out now on paperback, 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.120 arriving the head of Mother's Day. How to Lose Your 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.800 Mother has garnered a lot of praise from Good Morning America, 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:10.000 then Your Time, Book Review, Vogue, Vanity Fair, and a 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:14.479 lot of other outlets Washington Post. The book is about 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.679 what it's like to be part of the Sandwich generation, 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.960 to take care of your mother and your children. And 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.760 I talk about being a mother and a daughter and 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.600 the relationship I have with my mother and all of 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:33.760 its complexities. It's funny and it's fraught, and it's sad, 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:38.640 and it's about life. My story, This story, the Story 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.000 of How to Lose Your Mother, follows a year in 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.440 which my mother, Erica Johng, is diagnosed with dementia, my 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:49.120 husband faces out life threatening illness, and what unfolds is 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:53.680 a really honest story about what happens when the shit 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.840 hits the fan and everything goes wrong. As The Washington 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.720 Post said, the book is filled with lines so good 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.400 you won't just want to underline them. It's a memoir 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:08.800 that continues to resonate, so please pick it up. Morris 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:12.240 Santuro is a reporter for Notice Evan. 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.240 Welcome, Molly, How are you? Nice to see you? 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:20.040 Nice to see you. Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes have 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.640 been named by a top White House official as potential 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:32.320 targets for the Trump administration's counter terrorism strategy. I'm going 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.679 to read the whole thing to you here. In an 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:40.719 interview with Breitbart editor in chief Alex Marlowe, Sebastian Gorka, 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:45.120 or as we call him, doctor Sebastian Gorka, Yes, he 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.040 wants to be the next head of counter terrorism National 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.080 counter Terrorism Center. I guess they fired that guy was 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:55.439 like twenty two in an intern and he has decided 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.840 that we have to have an effective, accurate snapshot on 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.800 everyone who are on everyone who are part of the 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.800 conservative movement today, because I would say to you, I'm 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.480 not sure that Nick, Nick fwent As or Tucker Carlson 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.000 are conservatives. 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.400 Okay. This is one of those situations where when you 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:19.719 think back to the past year and the past one 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.760 of the main things that got Trump into power, or 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.960 at least animated him among the base, was this idea, 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:32.600 a sort of politically motivated investigations and pressure on the 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:36.840 right from Biden administration officials. We're going to go after 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.080 all of our right wing people, call us terrorists, and 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.120 you know, free speech and all of that. This is 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:45.280 the kind of thing that sounds like what the folks 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.400 who ran Trump's campaign in twenty twenty four would think 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:53.120 that a conversation on like, I don't know, a democratic 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:57.720 podcast would sound like. This is interesting because lately Tucker 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:01.960 Carlson has become an extremely vocal thorn in the side 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.640 of trump Ism, but in a way that describes I 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.800 think what polling shows is pretty true that, like, while 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:10.760 Republicans are still with Trump in a lot of ways, 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.440 those independence and stuff that sort of like sniffed around 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.600 MAGA and sort of got on board in twenty twenty four, 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.839 they're really upset about the war in Iran, which has 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:23.360 been sort of her Carlton's biggest problem. And then the 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.800 other side of it is, you know, the Nick flente side. 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.120 This guy has been bad. People have been really mad 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.000 at him on the right wing for a long time, 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.440 but people have watched how his numbers have grown and 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.200 grown and grown. This is a guy they've tried to 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:40.240 distance themselves from a number of times, and it just 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.520 sort of doesn't seem to really happen. So I think 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.199 they're kind of two separate conversations. That the Tucker thing 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.240 is sort of more of where MAGA sees itself now, 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.840 which is that Trump is demanding loyalty even as he 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.520 drags the movement into places that it does not want 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.959 to go, like Iran, and Nick Flentays is like, all right, 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.280 you cut Nick Flindays off, are you gonna lose? Who's 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.600 all of these angry dudes that were such an important 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.800 part of your you know, your shock Truth for twenty 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.119 twenty four. They don't really know the answer to that yet. 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:12.920 But naming them as potential domestic terrorists, which is what 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:17.640 doctor Sebastian Gorka has done here, is interesting to me 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:23.600 because they are both people who Trump really has benefited 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:29.120 from his association with. So Tucker was a big Trump 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:33.680 booster over the last decade and Nick Funds went to 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:37.120 the went to mar A Lago and had dinner with 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.680 him and created quite a stir. And they're both people 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.680 who have like turned on him right now, but who 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:48.600 are as much responsible for this moment in history as anyone. 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:53.080 So I just wonder at what point? And again I 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:57.240 think Gorka is doing this because he knows that Trump 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.120 he can win favor with Trump, doing this right, targeting 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.560 Trump's now enemies, And these are the people who are 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:08.600 going to splinter maga, right. Both Tucker and Nick Fuentes 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.760 are looking at what post Trump maga looks like and 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.560 trying to find their spot in it. And they're doing 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:19.360 it by running against a wildly unpopular incumbent. Maybe they're 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.080 not running for president, but they are pushing against They 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.880 see the polls just like everyone else. They get the 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.120 you know, the emails and the viewer comments, So clearly 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:33.880 this is something that is sort of somewhat thought out. 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.720 So I do wonder if Gorka is doing this to 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.520 try to please the audience of one that is Trump. 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:42.800 Oh, I think that's definitely true. I mean, we've seen 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:46.920 the president now really going after these people, you know, 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.720 naming Tucker, naming like Hannis Owens, naming some of the 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:52.600 people that he used to like and used to like 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.000 him as sort of enemies of the state. At this point, 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.400 we also have seeing him sort of amp this up. 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:01.360 He's going after Republican staffers he wants fired. Now. He's 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:06.160 really in his kind of paranoia about his own sort 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.720 of allies, you know, stabbing him in the back era 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.280 right now. But there is this interesting thing that is 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.440 a somewhat different combination. If you talk to Republicans, some 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:18.120 of them will say, okay things about Tucker Carlson. He's 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.360 obviously been around for a long time, he has some credibility, 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.680 and Trump was happy to associate him, right right. Trump 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:28.280 talked to Tucker Carlson a lot on the phone. In person. 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.880 Trump would talk about it, Tucker would talk about it. 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.200 They were sort of an era of us or like, oh, well, 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.480 Tucker's saying what he wants to say and Trump saying 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.280 what he's gonna say, but we're still kind of getting along. 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:39.360 The Nick Fetes think is a little bit different in 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.880 the sense that like every Republican you ever talked to 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:43.520 was like, we really wish this guy was not as 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:45.640 powerful as he is, Which is not to say that 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.280 they're doing that much to really prevent it or that 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.640 they've done that much. Right, We've seen so much reporting 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:54.120 about what goes on in these young Republican group chats 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.760 that are very Nick Fuente's coded, really, but like this 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.800 stuff is sort of like it's not the person that 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.120 they It's possible that could unite around the idea of 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.960 hating Nick flent das it's less likely I think with 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:10.840 Tucker Carlson, and Tucker has kind of shaken a lot 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.040 of this stuff off. It's interesting to see what happens 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.080 to him and what happens to his sort of branch 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.040 of Pturchism as it goes down the road. But he 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.479 is now kind of carrying forward this idea that Trump 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:25.440 was either a liar or has been manipulated on Iran, 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.199 and that idea has a lot of purchase in the 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.920 electorate right now. And that's why when you see I 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:33.760 think what Gorkay is doing here is he's trying to 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.879 kind of put back together what has been fractured. And 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.480 the fracture is not really coming from Tucker. It's really 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.400 coming from what Trump has done. And that's what makes 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:43.879 this moment in politics so weird, right, is that the 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:48.800 Republicans are running for office on now higher gas prices 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.960 and a war, which was not their expectation at all. 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.280 And now you have some people in the sort of 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.880 movement saying, well, if only Tucker wasn't giving us all 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.760 these problems, things would be so much easier. But the 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.600 problems really aren't coming from Tucker, They're really coming from Trump. 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:07.720 Right. But I also think like Trump knows that his 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:12.560 his majority in MAGA, or his that group, his MAGA, 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.560 his diehards who he has to have. You know, if 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:20.080 he loses them, he's cooked that those that crew is 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:24.760 it can be splintered the most effectively by Tucker Cross 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:29.400 and Nick Flentes, because Nick Fuentes says the white supremacist 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.760 stuff out loud, like he's like a full on buy in, 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.639 like none of the pretend, none of the good people 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:39.640 on both sides, just the we like Nazis. And then 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:44.040 Tucker is that sort of you know, he's anti war, 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.160 but he's also anti war because he's anti submittic, right, 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.000 I mean those two Well, he had to like. 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.760 He had what is on his show, which was a 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:55.119 big moment of fracturing among people who supported Tucker Carlton. 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.440 That's when you saw folks like Ted Cruz and stuff 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:00.280 who have you know, had tough moments with tough or 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.000 since Trump got re elected. But that's when you really 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:05.840 saw them turn on him, right, they saw him as 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.600 an enabler of Nick flint Ays and all the other stuff. 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.280 But there is an interesting thing here, which is this 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:14.879 acknowledgment that this stuff that in twenty twenty four was 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.320 like hey, so what like free speech man and people 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:19.439 can say whatever they want, this can actually become a 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.800 liability for them. And what has created it and becoming 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:24.760 a conversation about it being a liability is that they 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:28.960 are taking on Trump. Before they were saying that Trump's 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.600 war was bad, before they were saying the other things 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.520 that they were saying. Now there was some idea that like, hey, 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.040 you know you're being kind of a scold, or you're 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:40.439 being like, you have no sense of humor if you 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:42.760 were saying that these guys were dangerous or that they're 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.560 what they're talking about is dangerous. Now the idea is 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.560 that they are dangerous, but that danger is because this 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:52.920 movement is in a very very fragile place, and where 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.320 a guy like Gorka, who I think you're probably right, 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.720 is like looking to get some Trump credibility, is sort 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.200 of like sounding like a truth social post that, which 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.400 is what Gorka is doing. I think that the main 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:08.119 challenge is that the movement is fracturing because Trump has 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:11.679 taken it in directions that a lot of people simply 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.359 did not want to go in, which is essentially or 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.320 mentally this war in Iran. 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.320 One of the things you hear all the time when 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:22.480 you talk to people who are like and I'm sure 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:25.199 you can attest to this, who are very sourced in 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:27.720 the Trump White House. I'm not. I know it'll be 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:30.040 shocked to hear that. But none of them talk, none 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:32.200 of them leak to me even a little. 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:34.520 That's a stupid on their part. You'd be a great 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:36.680 person to talk to, you know, everybody they should totally. 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:40.800 Yeah, well you can tell them, but that crew. What 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:44.360 everybody says is that it is an audience of one 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:47.840 and that there was actually that this was the James 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:52.200 o'keeith thing. James o'keith, this crazy guy who is always 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:57.040 recording people. Had a staffer say something similar, which is 0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:02.360 basically that the whole house is just like Stafford's trying 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:05.480 to figure out what Trump wants or doing, or trying 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:08.800 to interpret what Trump wants without going back to him 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.520 or trying to you know, just like that there's not 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.199 any kind of cost benefit analysis anymore, that there's not 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:18.920 any sort of no bid contracts, you know that it's 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:22.800 just like a sort of what will the King want 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:27.639 kind of world in the admin? Is this true? Do 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:30.280 you think from what you understand, well, it's. 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.920 One hundred percent true. I mean my colleague Jasmine Wright, 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:35.080 who I do the Notice newsletter with every morning, you know, 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.280 she is a way of supporter. She's very well throsed 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:38.600 up on those people. She talks to them all the 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:41.840 time and routinely will be saying, you know, we'll have 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:43.840 a conversation, hey do you see this? What's going on 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.239 with this? And she will fire off, y'all, she'ld call 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:47.680 her people and they will say, well, we're just seeing 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:49.160 what Trump wants to do about it. We'll just see 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.000 what let's see what happens. I mean, this ballroom issue 0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:55.600 is exactly the perfect example of this, which is that 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:59.600 if you talk to any Republican strategists senior all the 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:01.119 way down to the ground that I talked to a 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:03.440 lot of them, you know, they will tell you that 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:07.320 if the conversation is about a ballroom, that of course 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:09.479 ninety nine point nine nimes that of Americans will never 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.600 set foot in, right. That's like a huge part of 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:14.760 the conversation. And also, you know, these gas prices are 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:17.639 higher all summer. But this is exactly a bad idea 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.200 for them. This is this is exactly what they don't want. 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:23.480 It's exactly bad in every way. They're not running around 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:25.359 being like, man, we love this, we really want to 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:28.000 talk about this ballroom. But because Trump wants to talk 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:29.639 about it, that's what people are going to talk about. 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:32.439 And that's why you saw, for example, you know, after 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:37.960 the you know, attempted shooting at the White House Correspondence Center, 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:39.879 everybody lined up and said, okay, this is actually a 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:43.040 ballary conversation now even though it really isn't a ballroom conversation, 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:45.560 and it took away from a moment that was you 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:50.080 know about many many many different things, you know, security 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:53.240 around the president, the safety of these events, you know, 0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:56.520 just sort of genuinely like the feeling that people can't 0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.680 gather anymore and what that means for politics, and it'd 0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:02.520 become discommination. But no, no, it's Trump's pet project that 0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:04.760 comes directly from the president. Like I mean, if you 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.359 talk to people who around him, they sort of like this, 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:10.120 this is what they have to do now. And this 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.560 is the problem that is getting into is that that 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:16.679 was all really really funny games when this president was 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:20.600 the guy driving this party into popular directions, right, I 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:22.840 don't forget it actually was doing. There was a time 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:26.359 when establishment Republicans were like, this guy is so dumb, 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.800 we can't go anywhere near this stuff. And as soon 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.280 as he would take him there, they would win and 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:34.800 it was very exciting and very thrilling. But now the 0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:38.040 places that he is taking them are not helpful for 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:40.399 them in the midterms, and so they are looking at 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:43.680 this and they're kind of shrugging. He has such command 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:48.360 over a large part of the electorate, particularly those older voters, and. 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:52.119 We saw this in Indiana. We saw this in Indiana 0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:56.600 two weeks ago where the incumbents who support who didn't 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.359 support redistricting, almost all of them lost. 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.560 You absolutely thought, like we had great reporting of notice 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.920 about this, who absolutely thought that was not gonna happen. 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:06.720 This was not a thing where they thought, oh, we're 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:08.679 all gonna lose. They thought, Okay, a couple of us 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:10.840 are going to lose, but we're going to hold furniar, 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:14.080 We're gonna we're gonna win. And they didn't at all. 0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:17.320 We're now reporting on how the Thomas Massey race that 0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:19.920 primary in Kentucky. Of course, you know Massey, the guy 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:23.200 who helped get the fteam files out, that is looking 0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:25.840 like he's going to lose that U primary to his 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:30.440 mega sort of funded candidate, whose entire opponent, whose entire 0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:33.640 campaign messages Thomas Massey does not stand with Trump. I'm 0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:35.879 gonna stand with Trump. That's what I'm doing. This is 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:36.960 the kind of thing that, like, you know, it works 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:38.960 on those voters we're going to turn out in that primary. 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.199 But everybody will tell you who was involved in the 0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:44.720 long term planning of this that like it is a 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:49.439 huge challenge for the mid term general election voter. I 0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:52.280 had one Republican strategy just talking the other day about 0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:55.720 how their plan is to go and find the low 0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:59.120 propensity voters and we're talking about the ones who may 0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.120 not even know, oh, there's a mid term going on. 0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:06.159 This is a very very low information behind This is 0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.320 like one of the hardest kind of voters to find 0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:10.760 and pull out. And the fact that that is part 0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:13.680 of their victory strategy just shows that they know they're 0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:15.919 in a tough spot, you know, and Trump is not 0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:17.919 helping them anymore. Trump is not guiding them in a 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:21.560 direction that that that helps them. This is this is 0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:23.480 this is a guy who's now saying to them, no, 0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:29.520 we don't care about americans financial situation. Iran is more important. Also, 0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:33.240 this ballroom must be built, and maybe I need some 0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:36.159 taxpayer money for it after all, and everyone needs to 0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:37.639 say that that's what we need to do and we 0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:39.720 need to fight for that. This is just the kind 0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:41.760 of stuff that like, yes, this is Trump, It's it's 0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:44.280 Trump's show, and everybody else is just sort of living 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:47.040 in it. The problem is the show is not that popular. 0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:51.000 Right now, right if you're a Republican candidate, you must 0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.560 hit your wagon to Trump in order to win MAGA. 0:25:54.640 --> 0:26:00.400 But you will then lose normal voters, including as according 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:06.760 to this falling including Republican leaning indeed, and that you 0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:10.800 can't win. There is no math where you can win. 0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.720 I mean, that's why you can win in these primaries 0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:17.360 if you go full MAGA. But there's no math unless 0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.760 you're in a in like a Mississippi, where you can 0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:27.000 win as a MAGA but without Republican independent voters. 0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:29.000 And I'll tell you those places are getting harder too. 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.920 I mean a place everybody should look at this week 0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:35.119 is Texas thirty five. Okay, this this is a congressional 0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:39.160 district that was redrawn by the Republicans, specifically as part 0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:41.320 of their jerrymander. Okay, we're gonna do this thing. It's 0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:43.119 gonna be really really hard for Democrats to win it. 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:44.760 We're gonna win this. We don't need to bother this anymore. 0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:48.040 We're gonna draw out opposition. This is a place that 0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:52.240 on paper is a Trump plus twelve district. And there's 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:56.520 reporting this morning that Republican money operations are having to 0:26:56.720 --> 0:27:00.240 dump funds into the Democratic primary in that race where 0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:02.920 there's kind of a candidate that Democrats think is sort 0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:05.520 of a kook and has no chance of winning, and 0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.359 there's another candidate who they think could maybe win, and 0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:10.000 the Republicans are coming in and trying to sort of 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:13.040 bolster the cook you know, as sometimes happens. But the 0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:15.720 fact that they are spending money in Texas thirty five 0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:18.840 there's suppostable to to be handoff. It's Trump plus twelve, 0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:21.280 so it should not matter at all, right, like we 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.200 can just walk away from this. But they're spending real money, 0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.840 hundreds of thousands of dollars more on trying to get 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.240 the candidate that they think they can actually beat, because 0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:33.960 which signals an idea that actually even that level of 0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:39.040 district in Texas could be competitive. That's how unpopular Trump 0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:40.639 is with those indies that you're talking about. 0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:46.640 Is that a Latino district, Yes, it's real grand Yeah. 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.760 Yeah, it's one that has picked up some of those 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.360 voters that they're relying on that they were twenty twenty four. 0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.720 They might not now, but it just speaks to the 0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.320 fact that, like the entire plan here was that Trump 0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:59.840 would be popular among his base among you know a 0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.480 lot of people the Democrats would be very unpopular, which 0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:03.480 of course they are. 0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:04.239 Uh. 0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:06.680 And then also we were going to draw these lines 0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:09.919 to make it so like we can emphasize the Trump 0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:14.600 popularity stuff and really make it impopuble for Democrats about 0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.960 how unpopular they are. And that conversation is sort of 0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:20.440 like flipped in away that Democrats are still very unpopular, 0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:23.439 people don't like them. But in Texas thirty five, rebel 0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.879 Remarlicans think that Trump isn't popular enough to drag them 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:28.439 over the line and let them putting some sort of 0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.920 thumb on the scale. That is a big deal. If 0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.840 it plays out in other red places across the country 0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:38.520 like that, it just speaks to how much trouble Trump 0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:39.040 has put them in. 0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:44.400 And lay Book had this insane story this morning where 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.640 they had James Blair talking about how he's very optimistic 0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.680 for the midterms, which he will be the only person 0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:54.280 ever to be optimistic of the Republican side. But perhaps 0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:59.160 there's a smidget of smidget of spin in that, but 0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:03.280 he he says that like the redistricting is going to 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.200 just they're just going to win on the redistricting. But 0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:09.440 this what your point with Texas thirty five which I 0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:13.720 think is relevant, is like, if you are redistricting with 0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:18.200 twenty twenty four numbers that have Trump way up with 0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:22.400 voting groups that we now see he's just completely underwater 0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:28.320 with now like Latino voters, like young voters, if you're 0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:32.520 using those numbers, like it's anybody's guess what this map 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:33.320 is going to look like? 0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.040 I known't. James Blair is a perfect person to talk 0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.840 about this because he is like really smart and actually 0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.640 very much knows what he's doing. And he's a guy 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:45.760 that after the twenty twenty five elections in Virginia and 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:51.640 New Jersey where the Democrats vastly overperformed their polling and 0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:54.160 did really really well just to lacked the Republicans up 0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.200 and down the line, he said, look, we're going to 0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:00.400 pivot to affordability. Now, We're going to focus like this 0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.360 is this was an affordability election. We're going to pivot 0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:03.400 to that. We're going to do that. 0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:04.800 When does that happen? 0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.040 Well, this is the thing is that, like this goes 0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:08.600 back to what you're talking about with Trump, is that 0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:12.040 like this is what a very smart and intelligence strategist 0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:15.200 said out loud in an interview about what they're gonna 0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.920 do and you even see it. You've seen some stuff lately, 0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:21.440 right Trump is talking about, oh, let's suspend the national 0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:24.920 gas text. He's pushing this housing bill. This is stuff 0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.720 that like, again, if it was the only thing that 0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:29.360 they were talking about, this is what a guy like 0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:31.520 James Blair would be wanting the president to do. Like 0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:34.480 we're going to talk about making stuff cheaper. We're going 0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.280 to talk about, you know, making building houses all that 0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:39.200 kind of stuff. But the problem has been that Trump 0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.280 is on his own sort of flights of fancy with 0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:45.320 there's other stuff the ballroom and it's ex amazing cost 0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.880 and a really gaudy type of thing. That's a huge 0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:50.920 part of the conversation that Trump keeps talking about the 0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.400 war in Iran. You know that they got into the 0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.560 kind of can't get out of back ends up being 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.680 a huge part of the conversation, and it does require 0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.280 now a change in tone on gas price is now 0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.200 it's like good that they're going up because it means 0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.000 that we're spreading freedom or something like that, which voters 0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.160 are not buying. But Blair's a perfect example of this 0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:09.719 because they had a whole map here that was kind 0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:11.480 of interesting map but it does. It speaks to where 0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.240 they thought their heads were at. Like I talked to 0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.760 I did just from reporting earlier this week talking to 0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.360 Republican strategist who told me this idea that they had 0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.200 America two fifty, this big two and fifty anniversary of 0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:24.160 America in July fourth, would be a great opportunity for 0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.760 the Republicans because, of course they would predict that the 0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:30.720 Democrats and sort of like fracture over patriotism. As you expect, 0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:33.320 they would along the traditional lines and Republicans mean while 0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:34.959 going to stand there and say, hey, we love America 0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.040 just like you. We love the flag right a great time. 0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:39.959 This is the thing that like last year, had they 0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:41.720 said it last year, you'd be like, yeah, that actually 0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:43.640 makes sense. Actually, I think that might actually really work. 0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.160 I mean, the Democrats are really bad, but now it 0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:48.960 looks like maybe, I guess. But aren't you also going 0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:50.840 to have to talk about the fact that it costs 0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.680 more to drive around either to a protest of a 0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.080 two and or fifteth animated reverse event or to a 0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.800 celebration of it than it did last year? Are you 0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.440 going to have to talk about how groceries are still 0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.720 up and you can't afford things, and your healthcare costs 0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.160 have gone up, and maybe you've had to quit your 0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:10.040 coverage that you had through Obamacare because those premiums went up. 0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.640 Those things still exist, and so you see a guy 0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:16.200 like Blair who had a plan and has continued to 0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:19.239 talk about the plan, just how that plan has been 0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:25.480 completely overturned by a person by Trump basically, and what 0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:28.200 Trump is actually doing and they're having to sort of 0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:30.400 scramble to fix that. And then maybe you have this 0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.120 covers now on the other side of it. Actually it's 0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:37.880 these far right wingers that we liked before, maybe they're 0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.760 actually doing this to us. And really it's all kind 0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.680 of like everyone's looking around for who did this, when 0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:45.560 like it's Trump who did it, And like that makes 0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.000 things really hard because he's a guy who does not 0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:50.440 allow you to run against him. 0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:54.000 Evan will come back, of course, at any time. You know. 0:32:56.280 --> 0:33:03.040 Dan Osborne is an independent candidate in the Nebraska Senate pace. Welcome, Welcome, Dan, 0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:08.080 Thank you. So you are running for Senate in Nebraska 0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:12.800 and the primary contest is over. I want you to 0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:17.760 talk about what Nebraska looks like right now. It is 0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:22.360 a historically very complicated state, but we are in a 0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.520 very historically complicated moment. 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:27.520 Yeah, no, we absolutely are. 0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:32.840 And so you know, in twenty twenty four, I ran 0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:38.080 unopposed to deb Fisher. You know, I'm still pretty proud 0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:40.560 of what we did. We were just able to take 0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:43.600 the message that working class people deserve a seat of 0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:45.800 the table at the United States Senate. We took that 0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.600 all around Nebraska and we ended up getting forty seven 0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:54.200 percent of the vote. So this time my opponent now 0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:57.560 is Pete Ricketts, and so it's noteworthy to know who 0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.320 he is before we begin this story because he's the 0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.640 son of billionaire Joe Ricketts. The family has a net 0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:06.800 worth of eight point five billion dollars. So these are 0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:08.680 the type of people that feel like they have no 0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:12.160 accountability in their life and they can do anything they want. So, 0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.560 you know, he has made a living in Nebraska over 0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:20.640 the last twenty years trying to ruin people's lives and 0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:27.320 taking power using his money and bringing other people down. 0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.480 So what he did is he put in this guy, 0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:35.920 William Forbes into the Nebraska Democratic primary. This guy, he's 0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.680 this pro life preacher out in Scott's Bluff that's in 0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:44.719 western Nebraska who preaches hate. He puts his sermons online 0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.800 and we have a lot of them, so he preaches 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:51.879 a lot of hate and discrimination. He's a three time 0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:56.080 Trump voter. And he also just as early as January 0:34:56.280 --> 0:35:00.880 attended a Nebraska GOP training session for candidates. Pretty obvious 0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:03.080 who he was and what Ricketts is trying to do, 0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:07.160 because he knows. Ricketts knows if we get this down 0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:10.960 to a one on one, he is in significant trouble. 0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:11.800 He's underwater. 0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:18.920 And so incomes the other Democrat in the race, Cindy Burbank. 0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:26.440 And Cindy's a free spirit biker lady who chose to 0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:30.800 run to basically keep Forbes off the ballot. 0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.560 So talk us through what happened. 0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:44.640 Well, the Nebraska state Democrats supported Cindy, and Cindy moved 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:45.640 through the primary. 0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.120 And I mean it's really as simple as that. 0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:53.200 When I interviewed you two years ago, the idea that 0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:57.520 you could be a candidate that was I almost feel 0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:03.080 like you ran on your work as working as a 0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:08.160 working person more than you ran on your partisan affiliation. 0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:12.200 And I think that that has been now we're seeing 0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:16.200 a lot of people do that. I've interviewed, I've interviewed 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:20.120 Senate candidates from other sort of more purplish states who 0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:22.160 are doing that. It feels like you were sort of 0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:26.359 the first of that trend now and we're seeing it 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:28.759 in all different places, and we're even seeing you have 0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.239 on the ground experience in your state in a way 0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:35.040 that journalists don't. So I'm curious what input and your 0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:36.600 experiences with the people you. 0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:37.400 Talk to on the ground. 0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:41.000 Yeah, I talked to two thousands. I try to talk 0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.720 to as many as possible. We did over two hundred 0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:48.160 public publicly advertised events in twenty four We've done probably 0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:51.640 close to seventy this time. Will probably shoot for way 0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:55.279 over that two hundred mark, because that's what's important to me, right, 0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.200 getting out and talking to the people every day that 0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:01.640 make it happen, that run their small towns, that run 0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:08.320 their large cities, and just really try to understand their life. 0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:13.399 Because I'm a first and foremost, I'm a pipefitter, right, 0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:16.280 I'm not a Democrat, I'm not a Republican. I'm a pipefitter. 0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:20.359 That's who I am. It's who I've always been. And 0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:24.839 son going out and learning people people's industries like in 0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:29.840 agriculture or education or nursing, healthcare, administrators. 0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:30.719 I mean, you name it. 0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.680 I've talked to them and try to learn from them. 0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:39.080 And you know, to answer your original question is why 0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:44.680 it seems obvious to me, right, and what we did 0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:50.600 in twenty twenty four, it seems very obvious because you know, 0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:54.040 I look at Washington, DC. I see a country club, right, 0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.960 I see a country club of millionaires that work for billionaires. 0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:00.160 And I'm like, well, these people don't get me why. 0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:04.319 You know, I'm just looking for for decent representation in 0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.000 my own government, like most of us are. 0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:09.000 So my campaign really is for the. 0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:12.840 You know, the nurses, the teachers, the carpenters, the plumbers, 0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:16.400 bus drivers, and lunch ladies. And that's who I talk to. 0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:19.960 If you're a billionaire, I don't got time for you. You know, 0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:22.279 this is and I'm sick and tired of this pay 0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:25.799 to play world. Everything is pay to play, and so 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:29.839 I'm not interested in those the people that are, you know, 0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:32.799 carving up the United States like they're on a little 0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:34.480 monopoly board that they have ricked. 0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:39.400 So the sentiment with people I'm. 0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:42.200 Finding is very similar to mine, and I'm able to 0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:45.920 connect with those people. I call it paycheck populism, right, 0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.880 I've always gotten a paycheck every week. I know how 0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:50.880 much comes in, I know how much goes out, and 0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.160 I know if I don't, if I miss work, I 0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:53.840 fall behind. 0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:56.920 You know, just the other day, I had to stop 0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:57.720 the pump short. 0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.560 I haven't had to do that long time because my 0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:04.120 mortgage is coming out. So you know, these are the 0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:07.279 decisions that people are being forced to make because of 0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.040 just I mean, I don't know if I can cuss 0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:10.960 on this podcast. 0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:11.879 I feel like, but just. 0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:18.960 I mean, just a shitty policy, right, it is. 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:22.120 It is shitty policy. It's it's killing our ag sector. 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:26.080 It's it's hurting consumers left and right. And and you 0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:29.960 got I always ask myself who's winning, who's winning? And 0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:34.280 all this and certainly the military, the military industrial complex 0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:35.680 is always. 0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:35.839 Going to win. 0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:41.440 Uh, they're winning, you know, the Ricketts family, the people 0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:44.040 who are getting a lie and share the tax cuts 0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:45.520 with this big beautiful bill. 0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:46.000 They're winning. 0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:48.480 And I don't know if they think the rest of 0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:51.680 us are just stupid, but we're not. 0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:53.520 We're on to the scheme. 0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:57.800 And I think it takes it takes working people coming together. 0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:00.919 That's why they're freaking out, Pete rick It's spent three 0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:04.839 million in the state so far since May. Nobody's ever 0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:07.920 spent that money in Nebraska that early because they know 0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:12.960 we're getting organized and we're organizing everybody. And I don't 0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.320 care what letter you have next to your name, it 0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:17.640 didn't matter to me. We've all been sold to bill 0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.400 of goods by both the parties throughout the years, starting 0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:27.040 with Clinton and NAFTA, hurting our industries. So you know, 0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.279 just no matter where the pendulum swings, it feels like 0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:30.759 where can. 0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:31.840 People get left behind? 0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.560 And you know, that's a lot of what we talk 0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:36.880 about in my town halls. 0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:41.719 Let's talk about this sort of indictment of neoliberalism, which 0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:46.520 farm mers are really getting screwed right now. And I'd 0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:49.920 love you you're in Nebraska, I'd love you to talk 0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:52.520 about what that looks like on the ground and what 0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:53.200 you're seeing. 0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:57.640 Yeah, well, I'd be remiss to not say that Nebraska 0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:03.640 is first in the country in beef. We're second, I 0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:07.880 believe in corn production and more fifth than soy bean production. 0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:14.839 And tariff policy, bad tariff sweeping terra policy ISFiC, specifically 0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:19.200 with China in the ag sector, has cut off fifty 0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:23.560 two percent of our exports and you know, so now 0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.600 what we have is we have farmers with bins full 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:30.120 of rotting, sooey beans. And I was talking to a 0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.719 roe crop farmer the other day and I asked him, 0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:37.760 I said, Hey, is this belout actually gonna bail you out? 0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:40.440 And he said, well, a little bit, right, I mean 0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:43.520 every bit, a little bit helps, But at the end 0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.920 of the day, it does nothing for me. In twenty 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:50.040 twenty five, I'm just out. And so they didn't they 0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:54.000 didn't make it. Well, they're losing money in twenty twenty five, 0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:57.879 and then for twenty twenty six, it's supposed to help 0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:00.680 me with my inputs. Well, now the war in Iran 0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:03.319 have jacked up the cost of their inputs, which is, 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:09.680 you know, seed and diesel fuel for their tractors and 0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:14.000 then fertilizer. The guy I was talking to, he farms 0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.560 nineteen hundred acres, so he's a small farmer, family farmer. 0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:22.400 His fertilizer cost is up fifty thousand dollars then it 0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:28.040 would have been pre war. So this is really digging 0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:32.239 into our ag sector. And we're in the midst of 0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:36.440 a farm crisis right Our lands are dry. We've had 0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:40.799 the seventh largest the nation's largest fire in Nebraska that 0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:45.600 just recently got put out. It destroyed pasture, it destroyed crops, 0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:50.200 it destroyed fences. And you know, we have an aging 0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:55.880 farmer population. In about thirteen fourteen years, the majority of 0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:57.919 them are going to be aged out and the young 0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:00.680 people aren't staying on the farm. So why would you 0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:04.280 you know, with issues like right to repair that takes 0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:07.680 their profits and now bad policy and now bad foreign 0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:10.040 policy cutting into their profits. 0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:13.200 Two percent of the population feed the rest of us. 0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:15.760 And oh, I got to backtrack a little bit with cutting, 0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:19.799 you know, taking a chainsaw to USAID. And you know, 0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:23.799 this is the first time in this country that we 0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:27.960 import more of our food than we export, and that's 0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:31.160 a direct result of cutting USAID. You know, we've we've 0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:34.240 always taken pride in feeding the hungary around the world, 0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:36.960 and now all of a sudden, you know, this America 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:41.719 First agenda, which is turning out to be America only agenda, 0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:47.040 is hurting people. It's definitely hurting my family directly, you know, 0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:50.239 talking about tariff policy, not just in agriculture, but in 0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:55.520 my industry. A domestic water heater has gone up six 0:43:55.600 --> 0:44:01.040 hundred dollars since Trump's tariffs. So what does that mean? 0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:01.600 Right? 0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:05.759 The company that I work for, Grundwald Mechanical, they're not 0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:08.040 going to eat that six hundred dollars because if they do, 0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:09.239 they go out of business. 0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:12.160 So it gets passed on to us the consumer who asked, 0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:14.120 who has a need for that? 0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:17.160 Or if you're building a home, that's why parents of 0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:20.840 home homes are skyrocketing because of building materials, because of 0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:24.440 tariffs with Mexico and Canada. Like this just doesn't make 0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:30.200 any economic sense, but people are definitely seeing it, and 0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:34.360 they're definitely Pete Ricketts, my opponent, is he's complacent and 0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:37.680 all this. He just rubber stamps this stuff because he's 0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:41.000 the one when I ask who's winning, he's winning. 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.160 Yeah, And I think that's a really good and important message. 0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:48.959 I'm wondering if you could talk about the Medicaid. There's 0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:52.640 Medicaid cuts that are going to happen after the midterms. 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:56.239 You're in a rural state, so you must see some 0:44:56.520 --> 0:45:00.400 rural hospital closure, right or talk to me about the 0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:01.719 downstream of effects of that. 0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:06.759 So there's been two that I can point to. One 0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:08.040 in Curtis, Nebraska. 0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:15.920 Uh, that's out by McCook and that's southwest Nebraska. 0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:17.959 They shut down there. 0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:22.400 They announced they're shutting down a satellite hospital and in 0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:25.200 its place, not like directly in its place, but in 0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:29.480 the same town, they've opened up what's called what they 0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:33.880 dubbed Cornhusker Clink, which is a migrant detention center. So 0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:39.040 we're shutting down hospitals and we're opening up privatized detention 0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:45.600 centers where people are profiting off of, you know, arresting migrants. 0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:50.280 And you know, this is uh. 0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:53.279 This, this is this is backwards, right, And so we're 0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:58.879 cutting three hundred billion dollars from Medicaid and but it's 0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:00.160 okay because we're at I. 0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:02.360 Mean, fifty billion for rural hospitals. 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:07.239 I'm not a mathematician, but I know that number that 0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:10.920 doesn't add up. That's bad math. And there was another 0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:13.120 article that just came out. It was about a guy 0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:18.560 on dialysis. I forget the location, we can double check, 0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:24.640 I suppose for the sake of the podcast. But he 0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:29.480 now has to drive ninety miles for dialysis every other 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.520 day versus the ten miles he was driving because his 0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:36.640 clinic closed. And this story is going to be put 0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:39.880 on repeat. And what that means, it means people are 0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:42.839 going to die, right, it means people are going to die, 0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:49.120 and so they basically stripped Medicaid to give themselves at 0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:54.160 tax cuts and by themselves. I'm talking about the billionaire class, 0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:57.600 the Pete Ricketts family of the world, who sees the 0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:02.480 lion's share of this man, I don't know how if 0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:05.680 you're that guy, I don't know how you sleep at night. Yeah, 0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:09.160 well he probably sleeps in a ten thousand dollars I 0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:12.719 get to Cotten sheets, I guess, but I don't know. 0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.000 But I think that's a really good point. And I 0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:18.680 think that I think that's a really good point. And 0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:25.480 I also think that it it's really it's really important, 0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:30.919 important to the part of this. It's not just populistic, right, 0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:36.800 it's helping people who government who have not been rich enough. 0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:41.520 I mean, like this government has been so paid for 0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:47.000 play after the fall of citizens United that working people 0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:50.799 have gotten screwed. And that is what this is about, right, 0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:52.800 It's about about it. 0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:55.560 So talk us through that, Yeah, you know, I mean, 0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:59.720 it's it's about you know the history of the United 0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:06.120 States and us being capitalists and free market and enterprise 0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:09.400 and building amazing things. 0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:12.879 Which we have done. But you know, we have. 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:16.880 Gotten to this point where you know, we're right deb 0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:20.440 smack in the middle of a gilded age again. But 0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:24.719 instead of the Vanderbilts and the Carnegie and the JP Morgan's, 0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:28.319 you can just replace it with Musk, Zuckerberg and Bezos. 0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:31.360 You might as well include Rickets and that as. 0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:38.160 Well, where you know, point half of point one percent 0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:41.719 control more than ninety percent of the wealth in this country. 0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:44.680 And you know, everybody's like, oh, why do you hate 0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:46.759 rich people? Blah blah blah blah blah. I don't. I 0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:49.800 want everybody to be millionaires. But here's a difference. 0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:53.280 There's a there's a big difference between a millionaire and 0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:56.680 somebody who has twenty billion dollars, right, That is a 0:48:56.920 --> 0:49:01.040 that is a vast, vast difference. And I want to 0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:04.120 arguably one of the most, if not the most abundant 0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:08.520 country on the planet. There is enough here for all 0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:12.080 of us to live extremely well. And the fact that 0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:16.319 people are hoarding it is certainly a question of morality. 0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:23.359 And you know it's how they accumulate their well too. 0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:24.840 They do it off of our backs. 0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:26.920 I know, because I'm the one punching a clock and 0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:31.239 wrenching my employer, and as long as I'm getting a 0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:34.120 decent wage and decent benefits, I don't care. Right, that's 0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:36.120 my choice to go to work and punch a clock. 0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:40.000 I like working with my hands. But the problem is 0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:42.440 is they still want to continue to break the unions, 0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:44.400 and they want to pay people less and less and 0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:46.839 less so they can keep getting richer and richer and richer, 0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:50.359 which I don't really understand that. That's not what being 0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:53.600 Americans about. I think forming a union is just as 0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:58.759 American as apple, buie and baseball. But they've spent billions 0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:03.040 of dollars and anti union rhetoric at you know these 0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:04.960 companies like Amazon. 0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:09.080 So you will now be there. It will be you 0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:15.319 versus Rickets. Cindy Burbank gets dropping out. What when you 0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:18.520 when voters come to you, it must be such a 0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.000 stark contrast between you and records. 0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:23.400 It is. 0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:28.440 Yeah, you know, I always tell people Robin Williams, I 0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:31.080 love that guy, the late comedian. He said it best 0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:36.720 when he said our politicians should be wearing patches, Nascar 0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:39.479 style jackets with patches of their sponsors so. 0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:40.600 We know how they're going to vote. 0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:43.400 And that's the difference. I don't take corporate money. That 0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:46.279 is my dig on citizens. You know, my little dig 0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:49.880 I'm playing my little part in fighting Citizens United is. 0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:51.520 I don't take their money because I'm not going to 0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:54.600 do their bidding. I want to do this the. 0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:58.200 Way two hundred and fifty years ago the Founders intended 0:50:58.239 --> 0:50:58.600 it to be. 0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:00.480 And that's a government buying for people. 0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:04.920 And right now it's pretty obvious it's a government for 0:51:05.040 --> 0:51:09.560 the corporations and the one percent. So that that is 0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:12.000 the fundamental difference between me and my opponent. 0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:17.000 Thank you Dan for joining us. Really appreciate you. 0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:20.480 Oh, thank you too. I appreciate you being honest. Good 0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:21.880 to talk to you again. 0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:29.400 Yeah, I'm I am so. I hope you win no 0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:35.080 more perfectly, Jesse Cannon. 0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:39.120 So, Mollie, what's been going on in Tennessee is just despicable. 0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:42.439 The state House is run worse than any state house 0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:46.000 I can think of, whenever there's any any contention in it. 0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:48.880 When you watch the video footage, it is unbelievable the 0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:51.000 way they talk to one another. And now we have 0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:54.520 even more evidence of this as the Democrats have been 0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:56.120 stripped of their committee assignments. 0:51:56.520 --> 0:52:01.000 Yeah, I mean so, this is just a completely fucked 0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:07.280 thing where he removed every Democrat from committees. All members 0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:09.800 of the Democratic Caucus have been removed from their committees 0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:16.799 and subcommittees, according to a letter. And this is he's 0:52:16.960 --> 0:52:22.520 mad because they during a special session over redistricting across Tennessee. 0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:27.040 He felt that they were disrupting the democratic and legislative 0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:30.279 process and creating disorder on the House floor. He went 0:52:30.360 --> 0:52:34.640 on to cite specific examples as Democrats interlocking arms and 0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:39.120 blocking aisles on the House floor. Again, this is like Republicans. 0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:45.120 You know, Democrats do something and Republicans do something that's 0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:49.080 like ten times more insane and anti democratic. 0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:52.040 I think the phrase you used to like to bring 0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:53.680 was the teddy bear to the gun. 0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:56.839 Train, right exactly, Teddy bear into a knife fight. And 0:52:57.120 --> 0:53:01.839 so here we are. That's it for this episode of 0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:08.680 Fast Politics. 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