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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds, and a CNN poll says a whopping

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Speaker 1: seventy seven percent of Americans blamed President Trump for increasing

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Speaker 1: the cost of living in their community. We have such

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Speaker 1: a great show for you today. Notices Evan McMorris. Santoro

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Speaker 1: stops by to talk about the Trump administration considering classifying

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Speaker 1: Tucker calls and as a domestic terrorist. Then we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to Nebraska Senate candidate Dan Osborne about his run as

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Speaker 1: an independent in the state. But for the News.

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Speaker 2: Smiley, we have an Ald timer. President Trump loves to

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Speaker 2: say the quiet part out loud. This is saying, uh,

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Speaker 2: the thing we all know about him, real fucking loud learned.

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Speaker 1: Negotiating with the rhymes. The president a.

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Speaker 3: Motivating to make it feel not even a little bit.

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Speaker 3: The only thing that matters, we're not talking about I run.

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Speaker 3: They can't have a duplear weapon. I don't think about

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Speaker 3: American financial situation. I don't think about anybody. I think

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Speaker 3: about what thing we could not let Iran have a

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Speaker 3: duclear weapon. That's all heard.

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Speaker 4: That's the only thing about.

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Speaker 1: It look, man, again, I think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a hard sell to the American people because your gas

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Speaker 5: It's way more than a dollar when you go at

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Speaker 5: most points.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, but it's it's a lot more a gallon.

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Speaker 1: And he's like, but this is all about the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: And you know, even when like if you think about

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Speaker 1: the last Gulf War, uh, it was after nine to eleven,

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Speaker 1: by terrorists, we had been all these people had died.

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Speaker 1: It was more than you know, it was quite a

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Speaker 1: lot of people. There is a feeling that America was

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Speaker 1: really under attack, and even then the war was unpopular.

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Speaker 1: Here is a war where Trump barely even made a

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Speaker 1: case for doing it. It has already made life significantly

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Speaker 1: more expensive. And instead of saying something the effect of

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Speaker 1: like it's going to be over soon, which has been

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Speaker 1: one of the things, or it's already over, which is

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Speaker 1: one of his favorite things to say, he's just now

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Speaker 1: pivoted to like, know it was just which it wasn't,

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Speaker 1: and it isn't and it's still going on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just as one of those things that you could

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Speaker 2: see this being in ads for the next three years

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Speaker 2: because it really really says everything about him. Okay, we

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Speaker 2: now have to talk to a person with a nickname

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Speaker 2: that I think none of us would like to have,

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Speaker 2: the human printer, Natalie Harp.

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Speaker 1: You may remember her from earlier in this season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yea, I have the thing with her. We hear

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Speaker 2: about her so infrequently that I kind of forget her

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Speaker 2: a lot. But so the point being, after this Trump

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Speaker 2: truth tirade the other night, apparently the other aids are

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Speaker 2: quite pissed at the way she enables these things. I

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Speaker 2: will say I had to google let me she searched

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Speaker 2: her to refresh my brain, and she really looks like

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Speaker 2: a character out of American horror story to me.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say anything about how anyone looks,

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Speaker 1: but I will say that she's thirty four years old.

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Speaker 1: She basically spends almost all her time with Trump, and

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Speaker 1: she prints things out and gives them to him. Now,

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Speaker 1: this Wall Street Journal reporting says that people in Trump world,

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Speaker 1: and again like the people in this administration, are feeling

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Speaker 1: more and more like they had less and less control

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Speaker 1: over Trump. They never had much control. They were picked

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Speaker 1: because they didn't have control but now it feels like

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Speaker 1: they can't even really sort of can keep him from

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Speaker 1: acting in a certain kind of crazy. Basically, she has

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Speaker 1: seems pretty odd. We tend not to have aids working

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Speaker 5: What about an AID who lives at your golf course.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, she has created the impression that the president never

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Speaker 1: sleeps and is instead spending his should be bedtime obsessively

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Speaker 1: retweeting baseless conspiracy theories and about the twenty twenty presidential

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Speaker 1: election and Fox News headlines about his purported popularity among

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Speaker 1: the American public. We did see a lot of tweeting,

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Speaker 1: now between Harp and some of the federal employees affected

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Speaker 1: by her insandiatory writings. So I guess she is either

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Speaker 1: writing these tweets or helping him write these tweets, and

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Speaker 1: like they're setting her up to fall and saying that

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Speaker 1: she is doing his social media. I have trouble believing this,

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Speaker 1: pretty legit. Her work, according to whoever is a leaking

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Speaker 1: to the journal, has included posts that depicted Barack and

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Speaker 1: Michelle as apes, and an AI generated image of Trump

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Speaker 1: as Jesus Christ. You will remember the Trump as Jesus

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Speaker 1: meme was incredibly problematic and pulled it, you know, like

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Speaker 1: something like seventy percent of all Catholics were horrified by it,

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Speaker 1: and ultimately he did in fact take it down.

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Speaker 2: You know, I said, I have a group chat with

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Speaker 2: you know, how we push these podcasts out. And I said,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's very telling that the most powerful social

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Speaker 2: media manager at America is also the world worst at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because it's like all of this is

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Speaker 1: his own social media manager. And I have just trouble

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Speaker 1: believing how much of this I think this is still

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Speaker 1: a Trump you know, maybe she gets set up to

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Speaker 2: Something I don't have trouble believing is that the White

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Speaker 2: House would host a massive Christian nationalists festival.

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Speaker 1: So the White House is planning a nine hour Christian

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Speaker 1: prayer festival on the National Mall. And this is reporting

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Speaker 1: from the Washington Post, which is owned by Jeff Bezos,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos, who has crushed the opinion section of the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post. The Trump administration is hosting an all day

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Speaker 1: prayer festival on the National Mall on Sunday that organizers

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Speaker 1: will reflect the country's Christian origins and they hope spark

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Speaker 1: a moment of renewal in America. This is completely nuts.

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Speaker 1: Rededicated two hundred and fifty National Jubilee of Prayer, Praise,

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Speaker 1: and Thanksgiving funded by our fucking federal government, partially funded

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Speaker 1: by millions in public dollars, the nation's two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fiftieth birthday public dollars. That's your tax dollars paying for

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Speaker 1: this crew to prey on the mall. And you know

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Speaker 1: who it's run by. Oh, you are going to love this.

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Speaker 1: Oh I know, yeah, Trump's favorite Reverend Paula White Cane.

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Speaker 1: Pretty problematic. She is a televangelist who is hot. I

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Speaker 1: think that's pretty much it.

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Speaker 2: You can see just but I was waving my arm

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Speaker 2: emphatically because that's what she loves to do.

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Speaker 5: She has the severer arms around.

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Speaker 1: She's a big evangelical. She spoke at his inauguration. She

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Speaker 1: is she was involved in the nomination. She was present

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Speaker 1: Neil gorsicch she has she is a Florida I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you even want to know? I mean, like, it's

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Speaker 1: like Tammy fay Baker Part two.

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Speaker 5: That's a great reading. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So one of the things we've seen is the ballroom

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Speaker 2: just keeps getting more and more expensive.

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Speaker 5: But it's on budget. No, no, no, no, it's under budget.

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Speaker 5: It's under budget.

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Speaker 2: Now we have the Golden Dome, which I'm going to

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Speaker 2: shock you, Molly, it's going off a budget.

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Speaker 1: So first of all, I want to point out the

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Speaker 1: ballroom whatever. We don't even need to talk about the

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Speaker 1: billion dollars that the Republicans are trying to get through

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Speaker 1: in reconciliation to fund Trump's supposed public ballroom that was

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Speaker 1: for by corporations, Trump's Golden Dome missile defense plan. So

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Speaker 1: this is Trump is jealous. Israel has a dome missile defense,

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Speaker 1: so he wants us to have one. Here's the story.

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Speaker 1: We can't have one because we don't need one, because

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Speaker 1: our country is surrounded by water. Israel is right sandwiched

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Speaker 1: stupid idea. But it's also, like so many of Trump's

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Speaker 1: stupid ideas, it is also a very very, very expensive idea.

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Speaker 1: So Trump has come up with something that is both

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Speaker 1: stupid and expensive does seem to be the watchword of

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Speaker 1: this administructure. Hey, it's Molly john Fast here. My memoir

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Speaker 1: How to Lose Your Mother is out now on paperback,

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Speaker 1: arriving the head of Mother's Day. How to Lose Your

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Speaker 4: Welcome, Molly, How are you? Nice to see you?

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Speaker 1: Nice to see you. Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes have

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Speaker 1: been named by a top White House official as potential

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Speaker 1: targets for the Trump administration's counter terrorism strategy. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to read the whole thing to you here. In an

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Speaker 1: interview with Breitbart editor in chief Alex Marlowe, Sebastian Gorka,

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Speaker 1: or as we call him, doctor Sebastian Gorka, Yes, he

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Speaker 1: wants to be the next head of counter terrorism National

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Speaker 1: not sure that Nick, Nick fwent As or Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 4: Okay. This is one of those situations where when you

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Speaker 4: a sort of politically motivated investigations and pressure on the

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Speaker 4: right from Biden administration officials. We're going to go after

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Speaker 4: all of our right wing people, call us terrorists, and

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Speaker 4: you know, free speech and all of that. This is

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Speaker 4: the kind of thing that sounds like what the folks

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Speaker 4: who ran Trump's campaign in twenty twenty four would think

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Speaker 4: that a conversation on like, I don't know, a democratic

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Speaker 4: podcast would sound like. This is interesting because lately Tucker

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Speaker 4: Republicans are still with Trump in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 4: those independence and stuff that sort of like sniffed around

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Speaker 4: campaign messages Thomas Massey does not stand with Trump. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna stand with Trump. That's what I'm doing. This is

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Speaker 4: the kind of thing that, like, you know, it works

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Speaker 4: on those voters we're going to turn out in that primary.

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Speaker 4: But everybody will tell you who was involved in the

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Speaker 4: long term planning of this that like it is a

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Speaker 4: huge challenge for the mid term general election voter. I

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Speaker 4: had one Republican strategy just talking the other day about

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Speaker 4: how their plan is to go and find the low

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Speaker 4: propensity voters and we're talking about the ones who may

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Speaker 4: not even know, oh, there's a mid term going on.

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Speaker 4: This is a very very low information behind This is

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Speaker 4: like one of the hardest kind of voters to find

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Speaker 4: and pull out. And the fact that that is part

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Speaker 4: of their victory strategy just shows that they know they're

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Speaker 4: in a tough spot, you know, and Trump is not

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Speaker 4: helping them anymore. Trump is not guiding them in a

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Speaker 4: direction that that that helps them. This is this is

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Speaker 4: this is a guy who's now saying to them, no,

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Speaker 4: we don't care about americans financial situation. Iran is more important. Also,

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Speaker 4: this ballroom must be built, and maybe I need some

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Speaker 4: taxpayer money for it after all, and everyone needs to

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Speaker 4: say that that's what we need to do and we

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Speaker 4: need to fight for that. This is just the kind

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Speaker 4: of stuff that like, yes, this is Trump, It's it's

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Speaker 4: Trump's show, and everybody else is just sort of living

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Speaker 4: in it. The problem is the show is not that popular.

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Speaker 1: Right now, right if you're a Republican candidate, you must

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Speaker 1: hit your wagon to Trump in order to win MAGA.

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Speaker 1: But you will then lose normal voters, including as according

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Speaker 1: to this falling including Republican leaning indeed, and that you

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Speaker 1: can't win. There is no math where you can win.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's why you can win in these primaries

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Speaker 1: if you go full MAGA. But there's no math unless

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Speaker 1: you're in a in like a Mississippi, where you can

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Speaker 1: win as a MAGA but without Republican independent voters.

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Speaker 4: And I'll tell you those places are getting harder too.

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Speaker 4: I mean a place everybody should look at this week

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Speaker 4: is Texas thirty five. Okay, this this is a congressional

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Speaker 4: district that was redrawn by the Republicans, specifically as part

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Speaker 4: of their jerrymander. Okay, we're gonna do this thing. It's

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Speaker 4: gonna be really really hard for Democrats to win it.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna win this. We don't need to bother this anymore.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna draw out opposition. This is a place that

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Speaker 4: on paper is a Trump plus twelve district. And there's

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Speaker 4: reporting this morning that Republican money operations are having to

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Speaker 4: dump funds into the Democratic primary in that race where

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Speaker 4: there's kind of a candidate that Democrats think is sort

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Speaker 4: of a kook and has no chance of winning, and

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Speaker 4: there's another candidate who they think could maybe win, and

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Speaker 4: the Republicans are coming in and trying to sort of

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Speaker 4: bolster the cook you know, as sometimes happens. But the

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Speaker 4: fact that they are spending money in Texas thirty five

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Speaker 4: there's suppostable to to be handoff. It's Trump plus twelve,

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Speaker 4: so it should not matter at all, right, like we

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Speaker 4: can just walk away from this. But they're spending real money,

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Speaker 4: hundreds of thousands of dollars more on trying to get

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Speaker 4: the candidate that they think they can actually beat, because

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Speaker 4: which signals an idea that actually even that level of

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Speaker 4: district in Texas could be competitive. That's how unpopular Trump

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Speaker 4: is with those indies that you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Is that a Latino district, Yes, it's real grand Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one that has picked up some of those

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Speaker 4: voters that they're relying on that they were twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: They might not now, but it just speaks to the

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Speaker 4: fact that, like the entire plan here was that Trump

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Speaker 4: would be popular among his base among you know a

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Speaker 4: lot of people the Democrats would be very unpopular, which

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Speaker 4: of course they are.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And then also we were going to draw these lines

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Speaker 4: to make it so like we can emphasize the Trump

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Speaker 4: popularity stuff and really make it impopuble for Democrats about

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Speaker 4: how unpopular they are. And that conversation is sort of

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Speaker 4: like flipped in away that Democrats are still very unpopular,

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Speaker 4: people don't like them. But in Texas thirty five, rebel

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Speaker 4: Remarlicans think that Trump isn't popular enough to drag them

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Speaker 4: over the line and let them putting some sort of

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Speaker 4: thumb on the scale. That is a big deal. If

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Speaker 4: it plays out in other red places across the country

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Speaker 4: like that, it just speaks to how much trouble Trump

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Speaker 4: has put them in.

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Speaker 1: And lay Book had this insane story this morning where

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Speaker 1: they had James Blair talking about how he's very optimistic

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Speaker 1: for the midterms, which he will be the only person

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Speaker 1: ever to be optimistic of the Republican side. But perhaps

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Speaker 1: there's a smidget of smidget of spin in that, but

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Speaker 1: he he says that like the redistricting is going to

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Speaker 1: just they're just going to win on the redistricting. But

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Speaker 1: this what your point with Texas thirty five which I

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Speaker 1: think is relevant, is like, if you are redistricting with

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four numbers that have Trump way up with

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Speaker 1: voting groups that we now see he's just completely underwater

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Speaker 1: with now like Latino voters, like young voters, if you're

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Speaker 1: using those numbers, like it's anybody's guess what this map

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Speaker 1: is going to look like?

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Speaker 4: I known't. James Blair is a perfect person to talk

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Speaker 4: about this because he is like really smart and actually

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Speaker 4: very much knows what he's doing. And he's a guy

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Speaker 4: that after the twenty twenty five elections in Virginia and

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Speaker 4: New Jersey where the Democrats vastly overperformed their polling and

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Speaker 4: did really really well just to lacked the Republicans up

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Speaker 4: and down the line, he said, look, we're going to

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Speaker 4: pivot to affordability. Now, We're going to focus like this

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Speaker 4: is this was an affordability election. We're going to pivot

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Speaker 4: to that. We're going to do that.

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Speaker 1: When does that happen?

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Speaker 4: Well, this is the thing is that, like this goes

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Speaker 4: back to what you're talking about with Trump, is that

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Speaker 4: like this is what a very smart and intelligence strategist

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Speaker 4: said out loud in an interview about what they're gonna

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Speaker 4: do and you even see it. You've seen some stuff lately,

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Speaker 4: right Trump is talking about, oh, let's suspend the national

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Speaker 4: gas text. He's pushing this housing bill. This is stuff

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Speaker 4: that like, again, if it was the only thing that

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Speaker 4: they were talking about, this is what a guy like

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Speaker 4: James Blair would be wanting the president to do. Like

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Speaker 4: we're going to talk about making stuff cheaper. We're going

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Speaker 4: to talk about, you know, making building houses all that

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Speaker 4: kind of stuff. But the problem has been that Trump

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Speaker 4: is on his own sort of flights of fancy with

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Speaker 4: there's other stuff the ballroom and it's ex amazing cost

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Speaker 4: and a really gaudy type of thing. That's a huge

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Speaker 4: part of the conversation that Trump keeps talking about the

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Speaker 4: war in Iran. You know that they got into the

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Speaker 4: kind of can't get out of back ends up being

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Speaker 4: a huge part of the conversation, and it does require

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Speaker 4: now a change in tone on gas price is now

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Speaker 4: it's like good that they're going up because it means

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Speaker 4: that we're spreading freedom or something like that, which voters

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Speaker 4: are not buying. But Blair's a perfect example of this

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Speaker 4: because they had a whole map here that was kind

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Speaker 4: of interesting map but it does. It speaks to where

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Speaker 4: they thought their heads were at. Like I talked to

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Speaker 4: I did just from reporting earlier this week talking to

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Speaker 4: Republican strategist who told me this idea that they had

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Speaker 4: America two fifty, this big two and fifty anniversary of

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Speaker 4: America in July fourth, would be a great opportunity for

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Speaker 4: the Republicans because, of course they would predict that the

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Speaker 4: Democrats and sort of like fracture over patriotism. As you expect,

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Speaker 4: they would along the traditional lines and Republicans mean while

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Speaker 4: going to stand there and say, hey, we love America

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Speaker 4: just like you. We love the flag right a great time.

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Speaker 4: This is the thing that like last year, had they

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Speaker 4: said it last year, you'd be like, yeah, that actually

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Speaker 4: makes sense. Actually, I think that might actually really work.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Democrats are really bad, but now it

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Speaker 4: looks like maybe, I guess. But aren't you also going

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Speaker 4: to have to talk about the fact that it costs

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Speaker 4: more to drive around either to a protest of a

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Speaker 4: two and or fifteth animated reverse event or to a

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Speaker 4: celebration of it than it did last year? Are you

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Speaker 4: going to have to talk about how groceries are still

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Speaker 4: up and you can't afford things, and your healthcare costs

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Speaker 4: have gone up, and maybe you've had to quit your

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Speaker 4: coverage that you had through Obamacare because those premiums went up.

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Speaker 4: Those things still exist, and so you see a guy

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Speaker 4: like Blair who had a plan and has continued to

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Speaker 4: talk about the plan, just how that plan has been

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Speaker 4: completely overturned by a person by Trump basically, and what

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Speaker 4: Trump is actually doing and they're having to sort of

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Speaker 4: scramble to fix that. And then maybe you have this

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Speaker 4: covers now on the other side of it. Actually it's

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Speaker 4: these far right wingers that we liked before, maybe they're

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Speaker 4: actually doing this to us. And really it's all kind

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Speaker 4: of like everyone's looking around for who did this, when

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Speaker 4: like it's Trump who did it, And like that makes

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Speaker 4: things really hard because he's a guy who does not

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Speaker 4: allow you to run against him.

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Speaker 1: Evan will come back, of course, at any time. You know.

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Speaker 1: Dan Osborne is an independent candidate in the Nebraska Senate pace. Welcome, Welcome, Dan,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. So you are running for Senate in Nebraska

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Speaker 1: and the primary contest is over. I want you to

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Speaker 1: talk about what Nebraska looks like right now. It is

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Speaker 1: a historically very complicated state, but we are in a

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Speaker 1: very historically complicated moment.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, we absolutely are.

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Speaker 7: And so you know, in twenty twenty four, I ran

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Speaker 7: unopposed to deb Fisher. You know, I'm still pretty proud

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Speaker 7: of what we did. We were just able to take

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Speaker 7: the message that working class people deserve a seat of

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Speaker 7: the table at the United States Senate. We took that

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Speaker 7: all around Nebraska and we ended up getting forty seven

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Speaker 7: percent of the vote. So this time my opponent now

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Speaker 7: is Pete Ricketts, and so it's noteworthy to know who

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Speaker 7: he is before we begin this story because he's the

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Speaker 7: son of billionaire Joe Ricketts. The family has a net

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Speaker 7: worth of eight point five billion dollars. So these are

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Speaker 7: the type of people that feel like they have no

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Speaker 7: accountability in their life and they can do anything they want. So,

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Speaker 7: you know, he has made a living in Nebraska over

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Speaker 7: the last twenty years trying to ruin people's lives and

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Speaker 7: taking power using his money and bringing other people down.

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Speaker 7: So what he did is he put in this guy,

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Speaker 7: William Forbes into the Nebraska Democratic primary. This guy, he's

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Speaker 7: this pro life preacher out in Scott's Bluff that's in

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Speaker 7: western Nebraska who preaches hate. He puts his sermons online

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Speaker 7: and we have a lot of them, so he preaches

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Speaker 7: a lot of hate and discrimination. He's a three time

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Speaker 7: Trump voter. And he also just as early as January

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Speaker 7: attended a Nebraska GOP training session for candidates. Pretty obvious

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Speaker 7: who he was and what Ricketts is trying to do,

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Speaker 7: because he knows. Ricketts knows if we get this down

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Speaker 7: to a one on one, he is in significant trouble.

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Speaker 6: He's underwater.

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Speaker 7: And so incomes the other Democrat in the race, Cindy Burbank.

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Speaker 7: And Cindy's a free spirit biker lady who chose to

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Speaker 7: run to basically keep Forbes off the ballot.

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Speaker 1: So talk us through what happened.

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Speaker 8: Well, the Nebraska state Democrats supported Cindy, and Cindy moved

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Speaker 8: through the primary.

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Speaker 6: And I mean it's really as simple as that.

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Speaker 1: When I interviewed you two years ago, the idea that

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Speaker 1: you could be a candidate that was I almost feel

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Speaker 1: like you ran on your work as working as a

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Speaker 1: working person more than you ran on your partisan affiliation.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that has been now we're seeing

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Speaker 1: a lot of people do that. I've interviewed, I've interviewed

650
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Speaker 1: Senate candidates from other sort of more purplish states who

651
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Speaker 1: are doing that. It feels like you were sort of

652
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Speaker 1: the first of that trend now and we're seeing it

653
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Speaker 1: in all different places, and we're even seeing you have

654
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Speaker 1: on the ground experience in your state in a way

655
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Speaker 1: that journalists don't. So I'm curious what input and your

656
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Speaker 1: experiences with the people you.

657
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Speaker 4: Talk to on the ground.

658
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I talked to two thousands. I try to talk

659
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Speaker 7: to as many as possible. We did over two hundred

660
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 7: public publicly advertised events in twenty four We've done probably

661
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 7: close to seventy this time. Will probably shoot for way

662
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 7: over that two hundred mark, because that's what's important to me, right,

663
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 7: getting out and talking to the people every day that

664
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Speaker 7: make it happen, that run their small towns, that run

665
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 7: their large cities, and just really try to understand their life.

666
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Speaker 7: Because I'm a first and foremost, I'm a pipefitter, right,

667
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 7: I'm not a Democrat, I'm not a Republican. I'm a pipefitter.

668
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 7: That's who I am. It's who I've always been. And

669
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 7: son going out and learning people people's industries like in

670
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 7: agriculture or education or nursing, healthcare, administrators.

671
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 6: I mean, you name it.

672
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 7: I've talked to them and try to learn from them.

673
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Speaker 7: And you know, to answer your original question is why

674
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 7: it seems obvious to me, right, and what we did

675
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty four, it seems very obvious because you know,

676
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 7: I look at Washington, DC. I see a country club, right,

677
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 7: I see a country club of millionaires that work for billionaires.

678
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 7: And I'm like, well, these people don't get me why.

679
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 7: You know, I'm just looking for for decent representation in

680
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 7: my own government, like most of us are.

681
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 6: So my campaign really is for the.

682
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Speaker 7: You know, the nurses, the teachers, the carpenters, the plumbers,

683
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 7: bus drivers, and lunch ladies. And that's who I talk to.

684
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 7: If you're a billionaire, I don't got time for you. You know,

685
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 7: this is and I'm sick and tired of this pay

686
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 7: to play world. Everything is pay to play, and so

687
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 7: I'm not interested in those the people that are, you know,

688
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 7: carving up the United States like they're on a little

689
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 7: monopoly board that they have ricked.

690
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Speaker 6: So the sentiment with people I'm.

691
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 7: Finding is very similar to mine, and I'm able to

692
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 7: connect with those people. I call it paycheck populism, right,

693
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 7: I've always gotten a paycheck every week. I know how

694
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 7: much comes in, I know how much goes out, and

695
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 7: I know if I don't, if I miss work, I

696
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 7: fall behind.

697
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 6: You know, just the other day, I had to stop

698
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 6: the pump short.

699
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Speaker 7: I haven't had to do that long time because my

700
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 7: mortgage is coming out. So you know, these are the

701
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 7: decisions that people are being forced to make because of

702
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 7: just I mean, I don't know if I can cuss

703
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 7: on this podcast.

704
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 4: I feel like, but just.

705
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Speaker 6: I mean, just a shitty policy, right, it is.

706
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Speaker 7: It is shitty policy. It's it's killing our ag sector.

707
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 7: It's it's hurting consumers left and right. And and you

708
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 7: got I always ask myself who's winning, who's winning? And

709
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 7: all this and certainly the military, the military industrial complex

710
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 7: is always.

711
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 6: Going to win.

712
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 7: Uh, they're winning, you know, the Ricketts family, the people

713
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 7: who are getting a lie and share the tax cuts

714
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 7: with this big beautiful bill.

715
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Speaker 6: They're winning.

716
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Speaker 7: And I don't know if they think the rest of

717
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 7: us are just stupid, but we're not.

718
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Speaker 6: We're on to the scheme.

719
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Speaker 7: And I think it takes it takes working people coming together.

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Speaker 7: That's why they're freaking out, Pete rick It's spent three

721
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 7: million in the state so far since May. Nobody's ever

722
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 7: spent that money in Nebraska that early because they know

723
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 7: we're getting organized and we're organizing everybody. And I don't

724
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Speaker 7: care what letter you have next to your name, it

725
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 7: didn't matter to me. We've all been sold to bill

726
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 7: of goods by both the parties throughout the years, starting

727
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 7: with Clinton and NAFTA, hurting our industries. So you know,

728
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Speaker 7: just no matter where the pendulum swings, it feels like

729
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 7: where can.

730
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Speaker 6: People get left behind?

731
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Speaker 7: And you know, that's a lot of what we talk

732
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Speaker 7: about in my town halls.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this sort of indictment of neoliberalism, which

734
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Speaker 1: farm mers are really getting screwed right now. And I'd

735
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Speaker 1: love you you're in Nebraska, I'd love you to talk

736
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Speaker 1: about what that looks like on the ground and what

737
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Speaker 1: you're seeing.

738
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I'd be remiss to not say that Nebraska

739
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 7: is first in the country in beef. We're second, I

740
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 7: believe in corn production and more fifth than soy bean production.

741
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 7: And tariff policy, bad tariff sweeping terra policy ISFiC, specifically

742
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 7: with China in the ag sector, has cut off fifty

743
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 7: two percent of our exports and you know, so now

744
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Speaker 7: what we have is we have farmers with bins full

745
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 7: of rotting, sooey beans. And I was talking to a

746
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 7: roe crop farmer the other day and I asked him,

747
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 7: I said, Hey, is this belout actually gonna bail you out?

748
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Speaker 7: And he said, well, a little bit, right, I mean

749
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 7: every bit, a little bit helps, But at the end

750
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Speaker 7: of the day, it does nothing for me. In twenty

751
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 7: twenty five, I'm just out. And so they didn't they

752
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 7: didn't make it. Well, they're losing money in twenty twenty five,

753
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Speaker 7: and then for twenty twenty six, it's supposed to help

754
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 7: me with my inputs. Well, now the war in Iran

755
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 7: have jacked up the cost of their inputs, which is,

756
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 7: you know, seed and diesel fuel for their tractors and

757
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 7: then fertilizer. The guy I was talking to, he farms

758
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 7: nineteen hundred acres, so he's a small farmer, family farmer.

759
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 7: His fertilizer cost is up fifty thousand dollars then it

760
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 7: would have been pre war. So this is really digging

761
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 7: into our ag sector. And we're in the midst of

762
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 7: a farm crisis right Our lands are dry. We've had

763
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Speaker 7: the seventh largest the nation's largest fire in Nebraska that

764
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 7: just recently got put out. It destroyed pasture, it destroyed crops,

765
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Speaker 7: it destroyed fences. And you know, we have an aging

766
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Speaker 7: farmer population. In about thirteen fourteen years, the majority of

767
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 7: them are going to be aged out and the young

768
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 7: people aren't staying on the farm. So why would you

769
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 7: you know, with issues like right to repair that takes

770
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 7: their profits and now bad policy and now bad foreign

771
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 7: policy cutting into their profits.

772
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Speaker 6: Two percent of the population feed the rest of us.

773
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Speaker 7: And oh, I got to backtrack a little bit with cutting,

774
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 7: you know, taking a chainsaw to USAID. And you know,

775
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 7: this is the first time in this country that we

776
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 7: import more of our food than we export, and that's

777
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 7: a direct result of cutting USAID. You know, we've we've

778
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 7: always taken pride in feeding the hungary around the world,

779
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 7: and now all of a sudden, you know, this America

780
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 7: First agenda, which is turning out to be America only agenda,

781
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 7: is hurting people. It's definitely hurting my family directly, you know,

782
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 7: talking about tariff policy, not just in agriculture, but in

783
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 7: my industry. A domestic water heater has gone up six

784
00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 7: hundred dollars since Trump's tariffs. So what does that mean?

785
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Speaker 6: Right?

786
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Speaker 7: The company that I work for, Grundwald Mechanical, they're not

787
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 7: going to eat that six hundred dollars because if they do,

788
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 7: they go out of business.

789
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Speaker 6: So it gets passed on to us the consumer who asked,

790
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 6: who has a need for that?

791
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 7: Or if you're building a home, that's why parents of

792
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 7: home homes are skyrocketing because of building materials, because of

793
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 7: tariffs with Mexico and Canada. Like this just doesn't make

794
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 7: any economic sense, but people are definitely seeing it, and

795
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 7: they're definitely Pete Ricketts, my opponent, is he's complacent and

796
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 7: all this. He just rubber stamps this stuff because he's

797
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 7: the one when I ask who's winning, he's winning.

798
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's a really good and important message.

799
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if you could talk about the Medicaid. There's

800
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Speaker 1: Medicaid cuts that are going to happen after the midterms.

801
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Speaker 1: You're in a rural state, so you must see some

802
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: rural hospital closure, right or talk to me about the

803
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: downstream of effects of that.

804
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 6: So there's been two that I can point to. One

805
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 6: in Curtis, Nebraska.

806
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 7: Uh, that's out by McCook and that's southwest Nebraska.

807
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:17,959
Speaker 6: They shut down there.

808
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 7: They announced they're shutting down a satellite hospital and in

809
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 7: its place, not like directly in its place, but in

810
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 7: the same town, they've opened up what's called what they

811
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 7: dubbed Cornhusker Clink, which is a migrant detention center. So

812
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 7: we're shutting down hospitals and we're opening up privatized detention

813
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 7: centers where people are profiting off of, you know, arresting migrants.

814
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Speaker 6: And you know, this is uh.

815
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Speaker 7: This, this is this is backwards, right, And so we're

816
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 7: cutting three hundred billion dollars from Medicaid and but it's

817
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 7: okay because we're at I.

818
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Speaker 6: Mean, fifty billion for rural hospitals.

819
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Speaker 7: I'm not a mathematician, but I know that number that

820
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 7: doesn't add up. That's bad math. And there was another

821
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 7: article that just came out. It was about a guy

822
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Speaker 7: on dialysis. I forget the location, we can double check,

823
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 7: I suppose for the sake of the podcast. But he

824
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 7: now has to drive ninety miles for dialysis every other

825
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 7: day versus the ten miles he was driving because his

826
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 7: clinic closed. And this story is going to be put

827
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Speaker 7: on repeat. And what that means, it means people are

828
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 7: going to die, right, it means people are going to die,

829
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Speaker 7: and so they basically stripped Medicaid to give themselves at

830
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 7: tax cuts and by themselves. I'm talking about the billionaire class,

831
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 7: the Pete Ricketts family of the world, who sees the

832
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 7: lion's share of this man, I don't know how if

833
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 7: you're that guy, I don't know how you sleep at night. Yeah,

834
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 7: well he probably sleeps in a ten thousand dollars I

835
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 7: get to Cotten sheets, I guess, but I don't know.

836
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Speaker 1: But I think that's a really good point. And I

837
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Speaker 1: think that I think that's a really good point. And

838
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Speaker 1: I also think that it it's really it's really important,

839
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 1: important to the part of this. It's not just populistic, right,

840
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: it's helping people who government who have not been rich enough.

841
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean, like this government has been so paid for

842
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: play after the fall of citizens United that working people

843
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: have gotten screwed. And that is what this is about, right,

844
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: It's about about it.

845
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 7: So talk us through that, Yeah, you know, I mean,

846
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 7: it's it's about you know the history of the United

847
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 7: States and us being capitalists and free market and enterprise

848
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 7: and building amazing things.

849
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 6: Which we have done. But you know, we have.

850
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 7: Gotten to this point where you know, we're right deb

851
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 7: smack in the middle of a gilded age again. But

852
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 7: instead of the Vanderbilts and the Carnegie and the JP Morgan's,

853
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 7: you can just replace it with Musk, Zuckerberg and Bezos.

854
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 6: You might as well include Rickets and that as.

855
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 7: Well, where you know, point half of point one percent

856
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 7: control more than ninety percent of the wealth in this country.

857
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 6: And you know, everybody's like, oh, why do you hate

858
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 6: rich people? Blah blah blah blah blah. I don't. I

859
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 6: want everybody to be millionaires. But here's a difference.

860
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 7: There's a there's a big difference between a millionaire and

861
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 7: somebody who has twenty billion dollars, right, That is a

862
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 7: that is a vast, vast difference. And I want to

863
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Speaker 7: arguably one of the most, if not the most abundant

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Speaker 7: country on the planet. There is enough here for all

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Speaker 7: people are hoarding it is certainly a question of morality.

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Speaker 7: And you know it's how they accumulate their well too.

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Speaker 6: They do it off of our backs.

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Speaker 7: I know, because I'm the one punching a clock and

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Speaker 7: wrenching my employer, and as long as I'm getting a

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Speaker 7: decent wage and decent benefits, I don't care. Right, that's

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Speaker 7: my choice to go to work and punch a clock.

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Speaker 7: I like working with my hands. But the problem is

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Speaker 7: is they still want to continue to break the unions,

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Speaker 7: and they want to pay people less and less and

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Speaker 7: less so they can keep getting richer and richer and richer,

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Speaker 7: which I don't really understand that. That's not what being

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Speaker 7: Americans about. I think forming a union is just as

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Speaker 7: American as apple, buie and baseball. But they've spent billions

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Speaker 7: of dollars and anti union rhetoric at you know these

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Speaker 7: companies like Amazon.

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Speaker 1: So you will now be there. It will be you

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Speaker 1: versus Rickets. Cindy Burbank gets dropping out. What when you

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Speaker 1: when voters come to you, it must be such a

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Speaker 1: stark contrast between you and records.

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Speaker 6: It is.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I always tell people Robin Williams, I

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Speaker 7: love that guy, the late comedian. He said it best

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Speaker 7: when he said our politicians should be wearing patches, Nascar

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Speaker 7: style jackets with patches of their sponsors so.

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Speaker 6: We know how they're going to vote.

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Speaker 7: And that's the difference. I don't take corporate money. That

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Speaker 7: is my dig on citizens. You know, my little dig

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Speaker 7: I'm playing my little part in fighting Citizens United is.

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Speaker 6: I don't take their money because I'm not going to

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Speaker 6: do their bidding. I want to do this the.

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Speaker 7: Way two hundred and fifty years ago the Founders intended

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Speaker 7: it to be.

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Speaker 6: And that's a government buying for people.

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Speaker 7: And right now it's pretty obvious it's a government for

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Speaker 7: the corporations and the one percent. So that that is

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Speaker 7: the fundamental difference between me and my opponent.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Dan for joining us. Really appreciate you.

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Speaker 6: Oh, thank you too. I appreciate you being honest. Good

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Speaker 6: to talk to you again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I am so. I hope you win no

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Speaker 1: more perfectly, Jesse Cannon.

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Speaker 2: So, Mollie, what's been going on in Tennessee is just despicable.

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Speaker 2: The state House is run worse than any state house

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Speaker 2: I can think of, whenever there's any any contention in it.

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Speaker 2: When you watch the video footage, it is unbelievable the

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Speaker 2: way they talk to one another. And now we have

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Speaker 2: even more evidence of this as the Democrats have been

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Speaker 2: stripped of their committee assignments.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so, this is just a completely fucked

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Speaker 1: thing where he removed every Democrat from committees. All members

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Speaker 1: of the Democratic Caucus have been removed from their committees

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Speaker 1: and subcommittees, according to a letter. And this is he's

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Speaker 1: mad because they during a special session over redistricting across Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: He felt that they were disrupting the democratic and legislative

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Speaker 1: process and creating disorder on the House floor. He went

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Speaker 1: on to cite specific examples as Democrats interlocking arms and

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Speaker 1: blocking aisles on the House floor. Again, this is like Republicans.

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Speaker 1: You know, Democrats do something and Republicans do something that's

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Speaker 1: like ten times more insane and anti democratic.

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Speaker 2: I think the phrase you used to like to bring

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Speaker 2: was the teddy bear to the gun.

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Speaker 1: Train, right exactly, Teddy bear into a knife fight. And

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Speaker 1: so here we are. That's it for this episode of

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