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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Coast to Coast AM. Hello there, Connie

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Speaker 2: Willis in for Ian Punnett tonight. Hope you are doing well.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're staying warm. I know it's snowing where

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Speaker 2: I am. It's white. It is totally white. I love it.

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Speaker 2: And if you just look at the sky too, it's

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Speaker 2: like this little white out. Absolutely adore snow. If it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be cold, it might as well snow. That's just

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Speaker 2: my little slogan. I know a lot of you have

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Speaker 2: to drive in it. That's not fun. I'm sorry about that,

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Speaker 2: but maybe set up the situation where you don't, and

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Speaker 2: you know it's kind of nice. You'll enjoy it. Enjoy

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Speaker 2: it well, you can don't hate snow. It's good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. Tonight should be a really

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Speaker 2: good evening. We've got open lines coming up later again.

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Speaker 2: I'm Connie Willis and my show's Blue Rock Talk and

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Speaker 2: Connie after Dark and Connie Willis the podcast. You can

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Speaker 2: find all that information at Connie Willis dot com. One

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Speaker 2: of my shows, it's Blue Rock Talk. It takes you

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Speaker 2: out on creepy hotspots and we have live investigations of

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Speaker 2: strange lights, hauntings and also a bigfoot. Now, it just

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Speaker 2: so happened that we just had one last week and

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Speaker 2: it was at the Bradshaw Ranch. And because of that,

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Forceman who was with us, Just Horseman who was

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Speaker 2: with us on coast not long ago, and Alexandra also

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Speaker 2: Tom Dongo who was on coast with us not long ago,

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Speaker 2: and Ben Lone Tree and Ze all basically took care

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Speaker 2: of me, telling me everything about the Branchaw Ranch, taking

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Speaker 2: me there and having experiences there at the Bradshaw Ranch.

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Speaker 2: It was absolutely amazing and yes things happened, they did it.

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Speaker 2: It was amazing. But you can find that on Blue

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Speaker 2: Rock Talk with my Creepy Hotspots Now. The reason I

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Speaker 2: told you not just to join me, absolutely of course,

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Speaker 2: but because while I was out there, I also met

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Speaker 2: up with Melinda Leslie, who our guest is tonight. And

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Speaker 2: this is Sedona. This is already a magical, mystical spiritual

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Speaker 2: area right the vortexas the strange lights, all of that happening, healings, spas, resorts,

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Speaker 2: a place to get away from it all. Well, I

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Speaker 2: ended up getting to meet Melinda at in Jerome, which

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Speaker 2: is like this haunted town, right, just very well known

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Speaker 2: for that interesting place. There's a whole show on that

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Speaker 2: itself that we've got to do at one point.

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Speaker 1: But.

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Speaker 2: That's where I met her. We were all chatting away,

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Speaker 2: and then we barely got to an area that she

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Speaker 2: wanted to take us to where she does these sky

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Speaker 2: tours and she looks up at the sky with military

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Speaker 2: grade night vision goggles. So we got to do it

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Speaker 2: for about fifteen minutes. That was really about it, and

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Speaker 2: in that time we saw activity. It wasn't as much

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Speaker 2: activity as she was seeing because we got out there later,

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Speaker 2: but we got to see him. And that third generation

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Speaker 2: is the strongest so far that I've been able to

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Speaker 2: look through with goggles. So I'm hoping at one point

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Speaker 2: I get the fourth and the fifth. I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: I think that's as far as it goes as of

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Speaker 2: right now. One of my Blue Rockers, Chris Nygard is

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Speaker 2: really he's an expert with that in the military, and

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Speaker 2: it's so fun to hear about all that stuff. I

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Speaker 2: got to connect them at one point, but it was

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun that little short time, and then

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Speaker 2: tonight it was an opportunity to bring Linda in or

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Speaker 2: she was really excited and very enthusiastic of what's been

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Speaker 2: going on recently in the skies over Sedona. So Melinda,

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Speaker 2: she's been on coasts many times. You've heard her before.

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Speaker 2: She's a professional psyche medium, teacher of psychic development and

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Speaker 2: paranormal abilities for about let's take a guess at forty

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Speaker 2: assists her reading clients and transforming their lives with evidence.

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Speaker 2: We're talking help and information from their spirit guides and

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Speaker 2: loved ones who have cross over. Also been an investigator

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Speaker 2: of paranormal phenomena for over like forty five years as

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Speaker 2: of the UFOs thirty five years experience. Thirteen years. She's

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Speaker 2: tours in Sedona where those great tours should be, right.

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Speaker 2: She's conducted a thousand it's one thousand, seven hundred and

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Speaker 2: Now I'm reading this. She's the only siding tour with

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Speaker 2: a money back guarantee. Now I know. Oh, I just

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Speaker 2: I'll just say this to her. I'll just say this

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Speaker 2: back once again, Melinda Leslie.

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Speaker 3: How are you great, Connie, thank you, thank you for

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Speaker 3: having me on. I really appreciate it. Hopefully you can

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Speaker 2: Hear you, well, but I got to change something here.

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Speaker 2: So okay. In the bio it says you've conducted seventeen

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty tours. But I thought because of me

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Speaker 2: the other night, it was seventeen hundred and sixty one.

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Speaker 3: Yes it was. So now I'm up to well, I'm

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Speaker 3: actually up to one thousand, seven hundred and sixty four.

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Speaker 2: Now, oh okay, wow, you work fast. That's amazing.

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Speaker 3: It's seven hundred and sixty four.

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Speaker 2: And you only counted. If you see something and you're

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah exactly. I well, yeah, we luckily we always

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Speaker 3: have signs. As you read, I have a money back

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Speaker 3: guarantee that I guarantee signs your money back. And thank

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Speaker 3: god we see them all the time, or I'd go

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Yeah, that's brave. You got courage. That's

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Speaker 2: what that takes to say that. But the Sodonas guys,

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Speaker 3: Well, like we always see stuff anyway, So you know, normally,

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Speaker 3: And then we see formations. We see things zigzag, we

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Speaker 1: But all of a sudden.

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Speaker 3: Seventy I think it's seventy six. I just right before

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Speaker 3: she said, Melinda, in all the years I've been coming

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Speaker 3: And I can talk more about why we're seeing it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I want to know. What do you

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Speaker 3: the history of Bradshaw Ranch and the history they're being

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Speaker 3: get much more into that. But where we're seeing this

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Speaker 3: Whether there's someone who's you know, who works with satellites

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I've learned. I am thirteen years later in

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