1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: For the first time in nineteen years and just the 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: fourth time since the Moon Landing. The Pittsburgh Steelers are 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: about to have a new head coach. But why did 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin step down now? And what's next for everyone involved? 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: We will tell you everything we know tonight about a 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: momentous day in the steel City. Divisional playoff weekend is 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: just four days away and it all kicks off Saturday 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: afternoon with Josh Allen versus b Nicks. Cameron Wolf is 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: going to be at that game in Denver. The first 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: Camp will be here tonight to help us break down 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: the battle for a spot in the AFC Championship Game. 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: We'll also get a visit from Adam Rank, who, wherever 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: he is, is still flying high off that latest Bears 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: comeback win. Rank has thoughts he always does on a 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: wild week that was, and whether Kayleb Williams can keep 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: it rolling against the Rams. Welcome inside with the Insiders 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: presented by Progressive Insurance alongside Judy Batista and Mike Garafolo, 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: I am Tom Pelicero. We got four divisional playoff games 19 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: coming up on what many believe is the best weekend 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: that you get in pro football. All year wrong will 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: all year long. We will get to all four of 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: those games throughout the course of the next hour, but 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: we start with the last team that was eliminated in 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: the wild card round. Huge news today out of Pittsburgh. 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: It was always a possibility, but that did not make 26 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: it any less shocking. Mike Tomlin informing players in a 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: team meeting this afternoon he has stepped down as head 28 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: coach of the Steelers after nineteen seasons, one hundred ninety 29 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: three wins, zero losing seasons, and one Lombardi Trophy. Art Rooney, 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: the Steelers president, put out a statement saying in part 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: that obviously, I'm extremely grateful to Mike for all the 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: hard work, dedication success we have shared over the last 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: nineteen years. It's hard for me to put into words 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: the level of respect and appreciation I have for coach Tomlin. 35 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: Tomlin also put out a statement, but she did not 36 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: address his immediate future, which sounds like at this point 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: it's at least somewhat undecided, but announcing formally after much 38 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: thought and reflection, I have decided to step down as 39 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Judy, you have covered 40 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: that franchise for a very long time. You know exactly 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: how rare it is for major upheaval at the top. 42 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: Put in perspective for me what a day like this 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: means in the story history of the Pittsburgh Steelers. 44 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: It is a seismic upheaval for the Pittsburgh Steelers, not 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: really just the Steelers, for the entire NFL. I mean, 46 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin was in that job for nineteen seasons and 47 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: never had a losing season. Even art Ernie, in his 48 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: statement today said that is a feat that is unlikely 49 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: to be duplicated. Having said that, it feels like they 50 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: had been stuck in neutral the last few years they went. 51 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: They won the Super Bowl in Tomlin's second season as 52 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: the head coach in Pittsburgh. They went to another super 53 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: Bowl in his fourth season. 54 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: They've been to the playoffs a bunch. 55 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: Of course, he never had a losing season, but they 56 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: haven't been able to get over the hump. They went 57 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: to the playoffs in five of the last six years 58 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: and haven't won a playoff game. A large part of that, 59 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: we can get into it is the quarterback situation. Ever 60 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: since Ben Roethlisberger retires, they have been sort of shifting 61 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: through quarterbacks trying to find the answer. And it feels 62 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: like this, much like the situation in Baltimore, sort of 63 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: reached the natural end of its life cycle, that it 64 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 2: was maybe just time for a change for everybody's sake, 65 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: to sort of shake things up and try something different. This, though, 66 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: is an inflection point for the Steelers. Mike Tomlin was 67 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: Ambassador Dan Ruoney's last hire. He hired Chuck Noll, he 68 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: hired Bill Kawer, he hired Mike Tomlin. So this is 69 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: Art Rooney the second's first time having to hire a 70 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: head coach. He's got enormous shoes to fill. Mike Tomlin 71 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: is woven into the fabric of that franchise and is 72 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: the face of that franchise more than any other current 73 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: coach is in the NFL. With his franchise, he was 74 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: loved by players. Players were very loyal to him. This 75 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: is a covetable job, but a very very difficult guy 76 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: to follow in the job. 77 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 4: We haven't herving Mike Tomlin. There are fifty six minutes 78 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: remaining in the program. 79 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 5: Mike. 80 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 6: If you want to join us, you are more than welcome. 81 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 4: But that is a key part of this because we 82 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: need the clarification on whether he stepped down from his 83 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 4: job with the Steelers because he's out of gas, he 84 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 4: needs a blow, he needs a gap year, he needs to. 85 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 6: Go into broadcasting. Maybe see if he wants to do. 86 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 4: That or if this is in his mind like the 87 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 4: end of the road with the Steelers, like we were 88 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: just stuck in neutral and not going anywhere. And part 89 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 4: of the problem for why they've been stuck in neutral 90 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 4: is that Mike Tomlin's. 91 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 6: Too good of a coach. 92 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: You've got to be really bad at some point to 93 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 4: get a high draft pick, to put yourself in a 94 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 4: position to get a quarterback. The Steelers, meanwhile, have tried 95 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 4: the likes of Aaron Rodgers and Kenny Pickett and Mitchell 96 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: Trubisky and it just hasn't worked out. Now in the 97 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 4: hands of other would have worked out a lot worse, 98 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 4: but Mike Tomlin had them in the playoff mix, if 99 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 4: not in the playoffs, every single year, which makes him 100 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 4: an attractive coach for other teams. If you want him 101 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 4: to be your coach this year or even next year, 102 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 4: and he takes a break a la Sean Payton, you're 103 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: going to have to give these Steelers some draft pick 104 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 4: compensation because he resigned, he was not fired. They still 105 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: hold his rights in this case, So let's see where 106 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 4: this goes in the next couple of years. Tom's right 107 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 4: does sound at least a little bit undecided. Like Mike 108 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 4: Tomlin's gonna take a step back here over the next 109 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 4: couple of days and assess his situation, see where he 110 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: is and whether he wants to continue coaching this year. 111 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 6: He's going to continue coaching in the near future. 112 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: The good news in him getting hired so young as 113 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 4: a head coach in the first place that he's still 114 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: young and he's still got plenty of coaching ahead of him. 115 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 4: Don't know where or when it'll be, but we know 116 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: it's coming at some point. 117 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: Mike Toman had two years left on his contract, a 118 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: situation where, much like Sean Payton a handful of years ago, 119 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: if Mike Tomlin wanted to go someplace else, they're likely 120 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: would have to be a trade that gets worked out, 121 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 1: draft pick compensation coming to Pittsburgh. And let's also remember 122 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: the Dolphins were at least interested in Sean Payton that 123 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: first year out. There was a lot of different things 124 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: that went on didn't end up happening. They end up 125 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: giving up a first round pick for tampering. In that case, 126 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: it was only after a year, when a new coach 127 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: was in place that Sean Payton ended up being traded 128 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: to the Denver Broncos, where he right now has the 129 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: number one seed and as the Broncos in position to 130 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: make a playoff run. Of course, from Mike Tomlin, one 131 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: of the hallmarks of his tenure was the number of 132 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: non losing seasons nineteen in a row, Tom Landry twenty 133 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: one in a row from nineteen sixty five to nineteen 134 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: eighty five. They'll let the record show Tom Landry started 135 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: at the Dallas Cowboys head coach in nineteen sixty when 136 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: they had five consecutive losing seasons. At the start, Mike 137 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: Tomlin wire to wire all non losing seasons. As we 138 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: bring in r Mark Ross and Brian Baldinger to the conversation, Now, Mark, 139 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: this is a rare occurrence. This is like Haley's comment 140 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: when the Steelers have a head coaching vacancy looking for 141 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: in terms of how they approach the next era of 142 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: Steelers football. 143 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 7: Well, that's really the unique situation is any other team 144 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 7: can say, Okay, well, we're gonna hire a coach who's 145 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 7: been here four years, five years. But the Steelers standard is, oh, 146 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 7: we've just got to hire a person that's going to 147 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 7: be around here for nineteen years. And that's really the impossibility. 148 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 7: And with that, you have the new ownership. Yes it's 149 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 7: the same family, but you have a new owner there. 150 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 7: And how will his style what he's looking for compared 151 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 7: to what happened in the past Baldy. So that's really 152 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 7: the intriguing part is yes, it is the Steelers, but 153 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 7: it is new ownership and a new person in command. 154 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 7: That will they be able to identify those same traits 155 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 7: that were identified in Chuck Nohle, in Cower and in 156 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 7: Mike Tomlin. So that's going to be the really difficult task. 157 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 7: And how many Mike Tomlins are really walking around because 158 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 7: he was the unconventional hire at the time where Rooney 159 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 7: saw something in him generation be able to do the 160 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 7: same thing as the tough task Baldy. 161 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 8: I agree, Mark, and I remember back in two thousand 162 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 8: and seven. 163 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 5: I mean they were ready to hire Russ Grimm. 164 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 8: He was really the leading candidate until Mike Tomlin came 165 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 8: through the door. After a year as a defensive coordinator, 166 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 8: for Brad Childress in Minnesota, and as soon as he 167 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 8: walked through the door and he interviewed, they found their 168 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 8: guy and there was the right guy. 169 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 5: And so not only do they have to be able to. 170 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 8: Find that guy right now, Mark, they they have been 171 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 8: searching for Ben Roethlisberger's replacement really since his decline, which 172 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 8: was a couple of years before he retired. And so 173 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 8: not only do they need to find the coach, they 174 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 8: need to find the quarterback as well. They're in the 175 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 8: division right now that still has Lamar Jackson, that still has, 176 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 8: you know, in Cincinnati, one of the great quarterbacks in 177 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 8: Joe Burrow. So they have got to be able to 178 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 8: identify and find that guy. 179 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 5: And then they also have to be able to find 180 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 5: the quarterback. 181 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 8: I mean, who's brought up that they just haven't draft 182 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 8: did high En up because of the six sexts they 183 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 8: had to pick a high at the top of the draft, 184 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 8: but Lamar Jackson wasn't at the top of the draft. 185 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 8: And so they've got to do their homework on both 186 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 8: fronts right here, because you're like ideally to marry that 187 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 8: new head coach and the quarterback together and broke together 188 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 8: the way Chuck Nole did the way Bill Cower did 189 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 8: and ultimately the way Mike Tomlin did. 190 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin was thirty five years old when he coached 191 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: his first game with the Steelers. Bill Kwer was thirty five, 192 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: Chuck Nole was thirty seven, all defensive backgrounds, all first 193 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: time head coaches. And if you look at the dozens 194 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: of coaches so far in this cycle that if interviewed 195 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: for jobs are gotten interview requests, there's only two who 196 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: fit that profile, Chris Shula, the Rams defensive coordinator, and 197 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: Kelvin Sheppard, the Lions defensive coordinator. 198 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 7: Maybe a time. 199 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: Whereas the Steelers, despite their long consistency out of the 200 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: Ruddy family, they have to branch out a little bit 201 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: at least in terms of exactly what they're looking for 202 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: as a head coach, Mark Boldy stick around. A lot 203 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: more to come from you, guys. We got nine head 204 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: coaching vacancies now across the NFL. The Ravens, who hadn't 205 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: made a change since back in two thousand and eight, 206 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: of course, the Browns, Cardinals, Dolphins, Falcons, Giants, Raiders, and Titans, 207 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: all in the midst of coaching searches as well. 208 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 9: Judy. 209 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: That is over a quarter of the league currently looking 210 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: for a new head coach. You've been ranking those vacancies 211 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: over at NFL dot com. Where's the Steelers opening stack up. 212 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: It's very close to the top. I have the Ravens 213 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: as number one, and that's because of Lamar Jackson, and 214 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: I have the Giants at number two because they have 215 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: Jackson dark. 216 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: I have the. 217 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: Steelers at number three, just barely behind those two teams 218 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 2: simply because they don't have a quarterback, and there are 219 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: some older players on the roster. By Mike count there's 220 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: fifteen players who are in their thirties, and so you 221 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 2: would think there's probably going to be a fairly significant 222 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: roster reset. Now they've got to get the quarterback. But 223 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: the reason it is so high, given those circumstances is 224 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: because of the franchise's history, the stability of ownership, the 225 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: patients of ownership. This is one of the NFL's blue 226 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: blood franchise. It is a very covetable job, but they 227 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: do have some challenges ahead. So I've got it slutted 228 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: right there near at the top. 229 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 6: It's hard to believe. 230 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: Twenty four hours ago, Mike Tomlin is doing his usual 231 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: pregame routine, walking around slapping hands with players. Now we 232 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: stand here, the Steelers looking for a new head coach 233 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: and Mike Tomlin facing new horizons, whatever he chooses to do. 234 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: After nineteen years in Pittsburgh. It was the Texans who 235 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: knocked these Steelers out of the playoffs on Monday Night 236 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: in a dominant defensive performance. Can the Texans do it 237 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: again against the Patriots on Sunday? That is just part 238 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: of the four games coming up on divisional playoff weekend. 239 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: We got the Bills and Broncos on CBS and Paramount 240 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: plus forty nine Ers at Seahawks primetime on Saturday on Fox. 241 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: That's the Texans and Patriots on ESPN and ABC. Rams 242 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: and Bears wrap it up six thirty pm Eastern Time 243 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: on Sunday on NBC and Peacock. 244 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 4: In case you are just joining us and paid attention 245 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: to no electronics today, good for you, It's good for 246 00:11:59,520 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 4: your brain. 247 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin though, yeah, how about this one? 248 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 4: Stepping down after nineteen seasons as the Steelers head coach 249 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 4: resigning his position? The future TBD, we will let you know, 250 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 4: we will track that. I don't know if Mike Tomlin 251 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 4: fully knows at this point, but we shall see what 252 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 4: happens in the coming days. Speaking of the coming days, 253 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 4: how about this game on Sunday. You like defense, you 254 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 4: like discipline, play, this is the game for you right there. 255 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: CJ. 256 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 4: Stroud up there needs a little bit more discipline. It 257 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: comes to the quarterback play. We're going to talk about 258 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 4: that right now. As we're bringing Mark Ross and Baldy Mark, 259 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 4: I'm going to start with CJ. 260 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 6: Stroud. 261 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 4: It's been kind of sort of like an up and 262 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 4: down year for him, and if they're going to continue 263 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 4: to advance here in the postseason, they got to get 264 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: some better ball from him. 265 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 7: Right well, better ball, but really all he has to 266 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 7: do is just don't turn the ball over, because he 267 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 7: saw last night what he did where he had the 268 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 7: five fumbles and the turnovers and they still absolutely dominated. 269 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 7: That was because the defense not only shut the Steelers down, 270 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 7: but then they went and scored fourteen points on their own. 271 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 7: So moving forward, sees Stroud, that was the first game 272 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 7: that the quarterback had that many fumbles since Eli Manning 273 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 7: in two thousand and seven against the Buffalo Bills up there, 274 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 7: when we clinch a playoff spot up in Buffalo, and 275 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 7: then our defense got on a tear going through the 276 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 7: playoffs and Eli stopped turning the ball over and made 277 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 7: huge plays. That's really the standard for ces Stroud I 278 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 7: joked about. You know, the team just gets needs to 279 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 7: get to seventeen and then against the Steelers get the fourteen. 280 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 10: Well, the defense does that are on our. 281 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 7: Own now, Baldy so sees Stroud, don't turn it over, 282 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 7: make a couple of key plays, and the defense will 283 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 7: take you home. 284 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 8: You know, Mark, it's cliche, but you know defense travels well. 285 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 8: The Texans they've won nine year row, but they won 286 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 8: seven in a row now on the road, and so 287 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 8: they're taking that road show there that we all watched 288 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 8: last night, which in every single category they just slammed 289 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 8: the Steelers. Now it sets up the Patriots are the 290 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 8: number two scoring offensive football. They put up in a 291 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 8: good number the other night, and then the Texans have 292 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 8: been the number two scoring defense. And so does defense 293 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 8: continue to win these big games in these championships. The 294 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 8: one thing I love, Mark, honestly as an analyst is 295 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 8: when you break down the Texans defense, there isn't one 296 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 8: single thing where they try to disguise anything. 297 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 5: They just line up. So we talked about it last night. 298 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 5: They just line up and play. 299 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 8: They let Deneil Hunter and Will Anderson and Sheldon Rankins 300 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 8: just go hunt along with Deniko Auntrey. They hit everybody tackles, 301 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 8: whether it's lasted or right here, coming up and making 302 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 8: this player out there on this game, well they tackle, 303 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 8: they cover. All four players in the secondary have at 304 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 8: least four interceptions. Bullet now with five after last night. 305 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 8: This is the ultimate test of ken defense. Continue to 306 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 8: travel well and win these and really play a huge 307 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 8: part in winning these big games. 308 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 4: Can't wait to see Drake May going up against this secondary. 309 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 4: Can he get the protection to keep those defensive linemen 310 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: I mean and Bali It's not just like they're hitting 311 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: you from the edges. 312 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 6: They can rush you up the middle as well. 313 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 4: That Texans defense really gets aftery, So looking forward to 314 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 4: seeing that one this weekend. 315 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: Judy, All right, here is our AFC playoff bracket. Of 316 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: course we finally get to see the Denver Broncos. They 317 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: are the one seed. They had the weekend off last week, 318 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: so we will see them against the Bills. And you 319 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: were just discussing Texans versus Patriots and on the NFC side. 320 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: Of course, the Seattle Seahawks join the show as well. 321 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: Let's bring in our Jeffrey Chidia. His first read column 322 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: this week was about lingering questions for the remaining playoff teams. 323 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: We're going to do the AFC this go around. We'll 324 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: get to the NFC in a few minutes. Let's start 325 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: with the New England Patriots. Jeffrey Well, Drake May. 326 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 9: You know it, should they be worried about how he 327 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 9: performed in his first playoff game because that first half 328 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 9: was shaky Judy, he was six for fifteen through way 329 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 9: interception that came off with deflection. He got together in 330 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 9: the second half, but again, you don't want to see 331 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 9: your star quarterback, your MVP candidate having these kind of struggles. Now, 332 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 9: the Chargers had their own issues and that helped Drake out. 333 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 9: But I have to imagine when you start seeing the 334 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 9: Houston Texans come in the way they can rush the passer, 335 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 9: it's gonna be a much difficult and much harder challenge 336 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 9: for Drake May and that contest, all. 337 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: Right, Next up is the Patriots opponent on Sunday afternoon. 338 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: There's no questions about the Houston Texans defense, so what 339 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: lingering question is there? 340 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 9: Well, how much offense do they really need? Because you 341 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 9: watched that game against Pittsburgh. They didn't need a whole 342 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 9: lot of offense to win that game. They got two depitts 343 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 9: of touchdowns from their own team. But CD Stroud was 344 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 9: really struggling in his own right for some reason. He 345 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 9: couldn't handle the football, had five fumbles and lost to 346 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 9: and had through an interception. They got some big plays 347 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 9: from Woody Kirk and from Chris from Christian Kirk and 348 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 9: Woody Marks, but again, I don't know if you can 349 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 9: keep playing this kind of defense and not get a 350 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 9: little bit more for your offense. In these games coming 351 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 9: up here, they have to get more from CJ's drouting 352 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 9: that offense. 353 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: All right, The Buffalo Bill's had a huge win last weekend. 354 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: What is the question that remains for them? 355 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 9: Well, I'm wondering how far they can go without getting 356 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 9: more out of James Cook. And I realized that Jacksonville 357 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 9: had a great run defense and really bottled him up 358 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 9: in that game. He only had forty six yards on 359 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 9: fifteen carries. But he's just been such a big part 360 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 9: of this offense and Josh Allen's success over the last 361 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 9: two or three years. He's the league's leading rusher. And 362 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 9: they lost Ray Davis in this game. Judy Todd Johnson 363 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 9: didn't play because he had an injury. And so you're 364 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 9: talking about going in to Denver and playing a really 365 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 9: good defense. But Josh Allen happened to be Superman again. 366 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 9: I don't like those odds. So I really think James 367 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 9: could coming in life. I think he will come back 368 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 9: to life. It's a big factor for the Bills. 369 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: I like the odds of Josh Allen being Superman again. 370 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: All right, but their opponent is that Denver Broncos. This 371 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: game is on Saturday. What is the question for the 372 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: Denver Broncos. 373 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 9: Well, again, their defense is great, but I'm wondering is 374 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 9: their offense going to show up and do its part 375 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 9: because we know it's been up and down. We know 376 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 9: bo Nicks has been inconsistent. He had the twenty sixth 377 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 9: best passer ray in this season. He threw a lot 378 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 9: of passes. He led the league in pass attempts. But 379 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 9: he needs to be in He needs to be consistent 380 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 9: in this game. He has to make plays throughout the game, 381 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 9: not just in the fourth quarter. Their run game hasn't 382 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 9: been the same without JK. Dobbins, So they have to 383 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 9: get that going. This defense can play, they're gonna do 384 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 9: big things. But that Jacksonville game showed there are vulnerable 385 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 9: at home, and so he's got to get it done well. 386 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 9: Nicks and his offense has got to get it done. 387 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: Jeffrey, thank you very much. You're going to be back 388 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 2: in a little bit. We'll talk about the NFC questions. 389 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: In the meantime, everybody go read NFL dot com slash 390 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 2: first Read, and when we return on the Insiders, of course, 391 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 2: we are going to continue to talk about Mike Tomlin 392 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: stepping away from the Pittsburgh Steelers. We're going to hear 393 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: reaction from Steelers fans, some of whom probably have wanted 394 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: this result. That's all coming up next on The Insiders. 395 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: Our top story tonight, Mike Tomlin has stepped down as 396 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 1: head coach of the Steelers after nineteen seasons on one 397 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: hundred ninety three games, one of Lombardi Trophy Nationally, few 398 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: coaches commanded more respect than Tomlin, who has never had 399 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: a losing season in Pittsburgh. 400 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 3: A little different story. 401 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 11: I can't believe it. Wow wow, Wow, is all I 402 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 11: have to say, this is huge. Is it a happy 403 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 11: day or what I jumped up and done. I think 404 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 11: I might have pulled a hammy. I'm so happy. 405 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 12: I was making gravy and it was boiling, and I'm 406 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 12: yelling at my husband, come. 407 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: In here, come in. 408 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 11: This was the time, to be honest. I feel for him. 409 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 11: I'm actually happy for him because the bag is that 410 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 11: he was calling this, all the criticism, all that was 411 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 11: bag that he had to carry for so many years. 412 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 11: Oh hh, I avoid. This was like the best birthday 413 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 11: present I could ever get. 414 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 13: Unless you enjoy, you know, going nine to eight, ten 415 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 13: and seven, eight and eight and one, whatever. 416 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 11: This is the biggest victory in ten years. 417 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: Man, be careful what you wish for, folks. 418 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: In the meantime, John Harbaugh continues to talk to teams 419 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: with job openings in preparation for doing some more formal 420 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 2: interviews later this week. Basically every team that has an 421 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: opening wants to talk to Harbaugh, and for the first 422 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: time since he fired in last week, Ravens owner Steve 423 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: Bashatti spoke publicly about Harbaugh. 424 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 14: We led the leg in giving up big leads in 425 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 14: the fourth quarter. It's not something that when organizations. Do 426 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 14: we have underperformed based on our seeding in the playoffs. 427 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 14: Very disappointing. A lot of players involved, a lot of 428 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 14: our great players involved making mistakes that they don't make 429 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 14: during the regular season very often. But I just thought 430 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 14: it was something that in the last ten years we've 431 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 14: won the third most games in the NFL, and yet 432 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 14: people were saying we were underachievers. 433 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 4: Tough businessman Kevin Batulo learned that I'm going to take 434 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 4: a red pen to that lower third there, which is 435 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 4: what we call the bottomless git. Eagles did not fire 436 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 4: Kevin Batulo. Eagles informed Kevin Patulo that they are making 437 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 4: a change at offensive coordinator. 438 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 6: He has not been fired. 439 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 4: Sources tell me and Ian Rappaport that he could be 440 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 4: back on staph. 441 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 6: Ken Batulo took a lot of heat for this year. 442 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 4: On offense and the play calls, but he has been 443 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: an integral part of the success under Nick Sirian. 444 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 6: He was assistant head coach last. 445 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 4: Year, part of the offensive process as part of the 446 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 4: head coaching process, so the Eagles would like him to return, 447 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 4: but Patullo and his family been through a lot this year. 448 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 4: We talked about everything that happened at their house and 449 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 4: all that stuff. So I Petula's gonna have to make 450 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 4: a decision as well. More conversations that need to be had. 451 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 4: But the Eagles are looking for a new offensive coordinator. 452 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 4: Jalen Hurt's going to get another one again, Tom. 453 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: The Chargers did fire their offensive coordinator Greg Roman as 454 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: well as their offensive line coach Mike Devlin, following a 455 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: touchdown list performance in LA's wild card playoff loss. Roman 456 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: Courus goes back. He was Jim Harbaugh's offensive coordinator during 457 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: great days with the forty nine Ers. He was Lamar 458 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: Jackson's offensive coordinator for a time in Baltimore, but LA 459 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: needed to shake things up. They used thirty something different 460 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: offensive line combinations this season, injuries all over the place. 461 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: None of that mattered in the end, Jim Harbaugh making 462 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: a major change. 463 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: Judy. 464 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 2: This got lost in this crazy day. But Matt Ryan 465 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: was introduced as the president of football for the Atlanta Falcons, which, 466 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 2: by the way, is an awesome title. 467 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: President of football. Ryan's already been part of it. 468 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: In views with head coaching candidates, Ryan said, there is 469 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: a sense of unfinished business. They're the new coach and 470 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: the general manager will report to him, and team owner 471 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: Arthur Blank said today Ryan is in charge of and 472 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: this is how we put it everything between football and grass, 473 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: so that covers a whole lot of territory for Matt 474 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 2: Ryan Hill see if he can deliver a Super Bowl. Finally, 475 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 2: to the Falcons, here is our divisional round schedule. You 476 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 2: are going to want to make all your plans this 477 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: weekend around the schedule. It will kick off with the 478 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: Bills at the Broncos on Saturday afternoon, and then we 479 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: get Niners Seattle, and then you see the Sunday slate 480 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: Texans Patriots, and then Rams Bears to close it out. 481 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 2: This might be the best weekend of football all year, 482 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 2: one of the best, and now it is time for 483 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 2: good coverage presented by Progressive Insurance. The Patriots sect Justin 484 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: Herbert six times, tied for the second most sex in 485 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: a playoff game in New England history, and they held 486 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: Chargers to just two hundred and seven total yards. That's 487 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: the second fewest total yards in a playoff game in 488 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: franchise history. 489 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: Mike, don't disrespect that New England second theary you'll pay 490 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 4: for it. Don't disrespect the Denver Broncos as well. The 491 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 4: number one seed, not considered the favorite in this game, 492 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 4: and some of their guys were surprised to hear that. 493 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 9: Today. 494 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 6: I saw one till on Oah Hall fun Go, It's. 495 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 10: Like, where are the underdog? 496 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're the undog. 497 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know he's never an underdog, Campbell if he's 498 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 4: always our favorite to come in here on the show, 499 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 4: going to be covering this game. Let's talk about Josh Allen, 500 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 4: who you just saw on that poster there. 501 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 6: He's a little sore. 502 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 4: He's got like four injuries actually they listed three finger, 503 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 4: foot and yes n from the other day. Josh Allen 504 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 4: against this Broncos defense. 505 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 5: What a matchup? 506 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 10: Wow, I can't wait. 507 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 5: I'll be there this Saturday. 508 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 15: And the Bill's story is battered Bruce beaten, but we 509 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 15: have Josh Allen and that seems to be the card 510 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 15: they can always play. They played it against the Jags 511 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 15: where the Jags arguably out played them for most of 512 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 15: the game until it came laid in the fourth quarter. 513 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 15: And I'll tell you this, the toughness word from Josh 514 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 15: Allen is everything that people were talking about. I was 515 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 15: in the locker room after the game talking to Dion Dawkins, 516 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 15: and he said Josh Allen will never let you know 517 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 15: what he's going through. And today he gets in the 518 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 15: podium and says, I feel pretty good. I actually feel 519 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 15: the best I felt in a few weeks. 520 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 10: I don't know whether I believe that, but it doesn't really. 521 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 15: Matter because they need Josh Allen to be every bit 522 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 15: of the version he's been so far. Connor McGovern, one 523 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 15: of their offensive linemens, said you'll have to kill him 524 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 15: to get him out of the game. I'm not sure 525 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 15: if he was joking or not, but he did not smile, 526 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 15: and it would. 527 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 10: Not surprise me. 528 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 15: Look, this Bills team has dealt with injuries after injuries. 529 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 15: Today Tyrrell Shavers they announced towards ACL. He played most 530 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 15: of the second half on that torn ACL gave Davis 531 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 15: also towards ACL. So they're banged up with wide receivers, 532 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 15: but they're playing a really, really good Broncos team led 533 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 15: the NFL in sacks with sixty eight. That matchup is 534 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 15: gonna be key. Astin told me today the one thing 535 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 15: they want to focus on outside of Josh Allen stopping 536 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 15: James Cook in the run game. He said last year, 537 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 15: in the playoff game, they went off on us. We 538 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 15: think we want to make Josh Allen one dimensional and 539 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 15: we don't think that he himself can beat us as 540 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 15: a group. 541 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 5: So we're going to wait to see what happens there. 542 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 4: Well, Josh Allen be ready for his close up, just 543 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 4: like Cam's picture right over his right shoulder, or will 544 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 4: it be Bo Nicks? 545 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 6: Say, Hey, Cam Wolf, where's my picture? Let's take this 546 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 6: one right now? 547 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 3: There it is. 548 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's your guy, Josh Allen. We'll see who the 549 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 4: winning quarterback is. Whoever it is is definitely gonna wint. 550 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 4: An interview with Cam Wolf. 551 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Paal Our top story today, Mike Tomlin steps 552 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 2: down as the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers after 553 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: nineteen seasons. He never had a losing season, he won 554 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl for the Steelers, and joining us now 555 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: one of his former players, former Steelers quarterback Charlie Batch, 556 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: is joining me Judy Batista here on the Insiders, and 557 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 2: Charlie is also a member of the team's broadcast team. 558 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 3: So Charlie, you're around the team. You live in the area. 559 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 2: Still, when you thought about this today, was it time 560 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: for a change for the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Tomlin. 561 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 13: I didn't necessarily think it was time for a change, 562 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 13: And really, when I heard the news, I was shocked. 563 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 13: I was like, Wow, didn't expect that. Obviously, this soon 564 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 13: after the game, but the way that the media around 565 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 13: here and just the chatter that was going on, there 566 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 13: were a lot of people who were looking forward to this, 567 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 13: but I didn't necessarily think it was going to happen. 568 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: It's obviously incredibly rare to have a coach in any 569 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 2: job for nineteen seasons and then to never have a 570 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: losing season on top of it. What do you think 571 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 2: Mike did that made him so effective as a head 572 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 2: coach there? 573 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 13: Well, for me, it always starts with this communication and 574 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 13: the moment he walked into a room, he was able 575 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 13: to deliver his message clear and concise, and the players 576 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 13: continue to buy in because he understands how to build 577 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 13: relationships and it didn't matter whether you're a rookie or 578 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 13: a player who were all fifteen plus. Your guy, and 579 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 13: he knew how to kind of communicate with you, press 580 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 13: the envelope, but also knows what motivates you. And that 581 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 13: was something that players always are appreciated because he was 582 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 13: able to connect with the players, and you see a 583 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 13: lot of players that are upset about this, but again, 584 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 13: the players who have cross path with him, you know, 585 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 13: they truly appreciate the relationship because he's a really good 586 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 13: he's a great person. 587 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: They obviously have an extraordinary lineage of coaches there. You 588 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl with Bill Kawer, then you played 589 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: for Mike Tomlin. They have had a type there in 590 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: the last three head coaches. Young from the defensive side 591 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: of the ball and a real leader of men type. 592 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 3: You're around the team all the time. 593 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: You know the roster makeup, right now, what do you 594 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 2: think this team needs? As Art Runey the second and 595 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: the rest of the Steelers' bress embark on the search 596 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: for the next head coach. 597 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 13: Well, I think if you just followed a pattern, this 598 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 13: is something that they're going to look for. A young, 599 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 13: energetic guy. And both Bill Kauer and Mike Tolland was 600 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 13: hired in their thirties. So maybe that's the formula that 601 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 13: they continue to use because obviously the stability that they 602 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 13: have and the organization loves to grow with their coaches, 603 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 13: and that's why you saw Bill Kauer fifteen years Mike 604 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 13: Tomlin nineteen years because they see the growth and development 605 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 13: that way. So this is probably going to be a 606 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 13: lengthy process. They're not going to speed to rush to 607 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 13: make a decision with this process because they're going to 608 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 13: evaluate all everyone and take their time with this process. 609 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 13: Very similar to what they did to Mike Tomlin in 610 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 13: two thousand and seven, So I expect that same formula 611 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 13: to happen. 612 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: All right. Last one, Obviously, whoever gets this job has 613 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: gigantic shoes to fill, not just Tomlin's but Cowers, Chuck Knowles. 614 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: They are an awful lot of expectations attached to this job. 615 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: What do you think the number one challenge that the 616 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: next head coach of the Steelers is going to face this. 617 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 13: Well, I think the number one challenge is going to 618 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 13: be who your quarterback is going to be. Mike Tomlin 619 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 13: when he took this job, he was inherited Ben Roethlisberger 620 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 13: going into three year three, So this is going to 621 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 13: be something that ultimately, whoever is hired, do they feel 622 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 13: like they have the quarterback on the roster, whether that's 623 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 13: Mason Rudolph will Howard who had drafted in the sixth 624 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 13: round last year. So that is going to be a 625 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 13: question number one on anybody who comes within this organization. 626 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 13: But again, you hope that Omar Kahn, Art Rooney, these 627 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 13: guys are going to continue to have that conversation with whoever. 628 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 10: That coach is. 629 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 13: But obviously they have to find out who their quarterback 630 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 13: is going to be, not just for next year, but 631 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 13: hopefully for the next decade. 632 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: Charlie, again, thank you so much for joining us. Thanks 633 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: for making the time on such short notice. We really 634 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: appreciate it. And to see all of the good work 635 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: that Charlie does in the community, go to Batchfoundation dot org. 636 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 10: Charlie, thanks again, I appreciate it, Thanks for having me. 637 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: Don't think that'll be the last time we're talking about 638 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: Mike Tumlin. But first we're going to get the divisional weekend. 639 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: Here is the NFC schedule. You got forty nine ers 640 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: Seahawks want a blockbuster That is Saturday night on Foughts 641 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: and on Sunday evening six thirty Eastern on NBC Rams 642 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: at Bears. Let's bring back our Jeffrey Chedia to talk 643 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: more about immediate questions that are facing out the NFC team. 644 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: So let's start with the Rams. What's the question, Jeffrey. 645 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 9: Well, a special team is going to keep being a 646 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 9: problem for this team because you saw again on this 647 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 9: playoff game isasms comes in and blocks this point and fourth 648 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 9: quarter and gives the Carolina Panthers a chance to win 649 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 9: this game. And you go back to the Seattle game 650 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 9: a few weeks ago when big punt return for a 651 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 9: touchdown by Rashica. He go back to week two when 652 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 9: I had a block field goal against the Eagles that 653 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 9: led to them losing that game. They fire Chase Blackburn 654 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 9: in a special teams coach. But they keep having these 655 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 9: problems and it's going to catch up to them. If 656 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 9: they can't get it fixed, you dye. 657 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: The Chicago Bears had one of the most thrilling playoff 658 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: games you will ever see. What is the question facing them? 659 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 10: Can they keep winning games like this? 660 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 9: Because it's always about the late games, the theatrics, the heroics, 661 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 9: Caleb Williams making something magical happen. But they now have 662 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 9: seven wins when they've been trailing in the last two 663 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 9: minutes of regulation. It's just hard to believe they can 664 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 9: keep sustaining that. They keep finding ways, but again, you're 665 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 9: going against teams that are better that are not going 666 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 9: to be giving the ball away. That defense is opportunistic. 667 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 9: I have to imagine as much as Ben Jonson Left 668 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 9: takes taking his shirt off, he'd rather see his team win. 669 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 5: These games and not get behind. 670 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 9: Against teams as good as the Rams. 671 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: All right, Next up the San Francisco forty nine ers. 672 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 9: Questions for them, well, how many people can they lose 673 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 9: before it eventually hurts them? And I'm tired of picking 674 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 9: against them because they keep proving me wrong because all 675 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 9: their stars are on the sidelines and they keep finding 676 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 9: more guys than make plays, which is a credit to 677 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 9: what Kla Shanahan has done to me. He's the coach 678 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 9: of the year. But going to Philadelphia winning that game 679 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 9: when George Kittle goes down, you have already lost. Nick 680 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 9: Bosa and Fred Warner and Ricky pearsall didn't play in 681 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 9: that game. They are doing an amazing job with their 682 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 9: depth and leaning on Brock Perdy and Christian McCaffrey. But again, 683 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 9: it's just going back to Seattle and playing with so 684 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 9: many stars out, It's just gonna be really tough for 685 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 9: them to win that contest. 686 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: Judy Keel, like, we've been asking that question of the 687 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: Niners all season, Finally you mentioned them, the Seattle Seahawks. 688 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 3: What's the question for them? 689 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 9: Well, Sam Donald going to slay one last demon this season. 690 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 9: That's going back to he's playing Minnesota. He lost the 691 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 9: last game of the season with the division title on 692 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 9: the line, and then lost his first playoffs start to 693 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 9: the Rams. He's already got that division title, the top 694 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 9: seed this year. Now he's got to go back out 695 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 9: beat the Seahawks and move forward. And I imagine he's 696 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 9: ready to do that because you saw a huge transition 697 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 9: in his game over the course of the year. Earlier 698 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 9: he was an aggressive, you know, throwing the butt on 699 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 9: the field quarterback. Second half, he was a game manager. 700 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 9: If he's a game manager, they should be good. 701 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 2: Jeffrey, thank you, everybody. Go to NFL dot com slash 702 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 2: First Read for more of Jeffrey's weekly column. 703 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 4: Mike, sorry, Judiams, this reading NFL dot com First Read. 704 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 4: I was listening to you, all right. I'll finish the 705 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 4: show forty nine Ers Seahawks rematch. Juwan Jennings told me 706 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 4: the other night on the field in link of financial field, 707 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 4: I said, who do you play? 708 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 6: Said the Seahawks. I said, it's the Seahawks. He goes, dude, 709 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 6: that's who we wanted. 710 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 5: Well you got it. 711 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 6: Juwan and the Niners. 712 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 4: We're saying after the game Mark Ross and Brian Baldinger 713 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 4: that we could play a lot better than we did 714 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 4: in Week eight. Team I agree, and I think that 715 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 4: they will. Mark how he assessed this rematch. 716 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 7: We're going to have to play a lot better, right 717 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 7: because they really ran into a buzz sol then and 718 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 7: you know everything indicses might be a mismatch here in 719 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 7: Baldy with the Seahawks coming off to buy forty nine 720 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 7: Ers having a tough game traveling, but all your long Seattle, 721 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 7: the forty nine ers have just been resilient and just 722 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 7: proving at every step that they can answer, oh somebody 723 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 7: goes now, well someone steps up, another guy gets injured, 724 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 7: somebody else steps up. So could this just be the 725 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 7: magical run the forty nine Ers that we see often 726 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 7: in the playoffs that no matter what goes their way, 727 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 7: what goes wrong, who gets hurt, Baldy, that they just 728 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 7: find a way to get it done. 729 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 8: They have gotten done there, Mark and the two guys 730 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 8: that have just been resilient throughout has been brock Perdy 731 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 8: played an awesome game in Philadelphia and Christian McCaffrey. I mean, 732 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 8: those two guys are indispensable. The offense still runs through McCaffrey. 733 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 8: When they lost to Seattle week eighteen, he had fourteen 734 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 8: touches for fifty seven yards. They could not run the ball. 735 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 8: They've got to run the ball better. Maybe it's different type. 736 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 8: Maybe you can't run right into the belly of the 737 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 8: beast of Seattle with Letter Williams and John Reed and 738 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 8: Byron Murphy. 739 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 5: There's different types of runs that they can use. But 740 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 5: they need to get him going. 741 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 8: If they get him going defensively, I mean, you saw 742 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 8: what Garrett Wallow and Eric Kendricks did in their first 743 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 8: start for the forty nine ers, they racked up twenty 744 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 8: one tackles. 745 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 5: I mean, it's the next guy up mentality. 746 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 8: But I think Rock Perdy, who was only hit one 747 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 8: time in thirty two dropbacks in Philadelphia, They've got to 748 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 8: protect him like that, and they need to really concentrate 749 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 8: on getting McCaffrey his touches and getting him, you know, 750 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 8: good yards, good rushing yards in the run game. 751 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 5: They can do that. They can hang in there with 752 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 5: Seattle this game. 753 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 4: I can't wait to see this one, and I can't 754 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 4: wait to see if this Niners team can travel across 755 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 4: the country in a game that they didn't have to 756 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 4: play if they had just beaten the Seahawks, then come 757 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 4: back to the West Coast. Got to gear up again, 758 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 4: like how many times can you go back to that 759 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 4: emotional well, especially when you're banged out. The forty nine 760 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 4: ers have done a great job of it looking forward 761 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 4: to that one. 762 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 6: Thank you Mark Ross and Brian Bouldinger. 763 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: In time now to take a look at the week 764 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: that was with our friend Adam Rank a title that 765 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: made me go, wait, what day is Tuesday? 766 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 3: Tuesday is the day. 767 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: We still have more week to go, But for Rake, 768 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: it's already felt like it's been a whole year of 769 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: Bears goodness, Ray, your favorite team. 770 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 10: Moving on your thoughts, sir, can. 771 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 16: You imagine a world where the Bears would win on 772 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 16: a walk off touchdown in overtime against the Packers and 773 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 16: that wouldn't even be the greatest win of the season. 774 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 10: Against the Packers. 775 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 16: Times are changing in Chicago, and I'm not just talking 776 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 16: about the Bears consistently beating the Packers, which they've done 777 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 16: three out of the last four times. 778 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 10: They've played should have been four. 779 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 16: But I'm talking about this because here was Ben Johnson 780 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 16: after the big win. Oh, the profanity once forbidden in 781 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 16: hallis hall, as I myself was once scolded for saying 782 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 16: the word stinker. 783 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 10: Isn't the biggest shocker here. 784 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 16: No, the biggest shocker is the pearl clutching from the 785 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 16: Packers fans, who for years enjoyed Aaron Rodgers saying things 786 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 16: like I own you to nice elderly grandmothers. Sitting there 787 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 16: it Soldier Field or Clay Matthews yelling. 788 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 10: The Bears still suck during the. 789 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 16: Opening of the twenty twenty four NFL Draft in Green Bay, 790 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 16: the biggest event that town has ever seen. But listen, now, 791 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 16: the Packer fans want to cry for decorum. Why because 792 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 16: the bully doesn't like being punched. It's like when Ralphie 793 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 16: rose up and swung on Scott Farkas in a Christmas story. 794 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 16: And by the way, Ralphie's dad could, of course string 795 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 16: together profanity with the best of them. 796 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 10: But listen, it's a new world and the Bears. 797 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 16: Beating the Packers is something they're going to have to 798 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 16: deal with, and I love it. 799 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: Packers go home, Wild Card weekend. So do the Eagles 800 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: rank whose fans just what less than a year ago 801 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: or celebrating a blowout Super Bowl victory. 802 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 3: Dynasty in the making. 803 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: Now they're going through a little bit. 804 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 16: They are having the troubles. And it's not just the 805 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 16: it's the youth. You're losing the kids. We saw this 806 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 16: young man after the Eagles were eliminated to the playoffs 807 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 16: from the forty nine ers. 808 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 10: Give his assessment. 809 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 12: Right here, I'm feeling two of two things. A. I 810 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 12: want aj Brown packing his bags, and I want him 811 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 12: somewhere else that is not here. I love you, Aj, 812 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 12: but like you can't make those jobs in that game. 813 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 12: And I also want Kevin Patula flipping burgers at like 814 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,439 Speaker 12: the local McDonald's or something. 815 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 3: I don't care. 816 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 12: Whenever he's an offensive coordinator, it's like he's flipping burgers. 817 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 12: One side he's cooking. One half he's cooking, and the 818 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 12: other half is completely raw and does absolutely nothing. 819 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 6: So, yeah, is this a huge letdown? 820 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 3: So they were winning, Yes, this was a huge letdown. 821 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 12: So my Christmas present and I got lost. 822 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 16: Speaking of cooking, that young man was serving up some 823 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 16: heavy analysis right there. 824 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 10: He spoke with poise. He was funny. He made a 825 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 10: great annalogy. Wait is he coming after my gig? What 826 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 10: are you doing? Kid? 827 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 16: You should be out there doing six seven means instead 828 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 16: you're going out there and you're making a great point. 829 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 16: Nick Sirianni needs to be the play caller for the 830 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 16: Philadelphia Eagles. 831 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 10: There tom coming after my gig. 832 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: You appear to be doing an impression of me, dressed 833 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: like me, sitting on a set like me. We'll address 834 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: that momentarily. Where's Aaron Rodgers going to be after Mike 835 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 1: Tomlin took himself out of Pittsburgh earlier today? 836 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 16: Well, you know what, here's the thing, tom I'm not 837 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 16: sitting here with aquafted hair, so I'm not completely leaning 838 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 16: into the bed. But here's the thing. Mike Tomlin is 839 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 16: a good coach. The Steelers needed to move on. It's 840 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 16: like when you have a driver and you like it. 841 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 16: You're getting two to fifteen down the fairway, but at 842 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 16: some point you want to take a swing for two fifty. 843 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 10: Nothing wrong with that. 844 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 16: And similarly, they got to go out there and find 845 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 16: the head coach who calls his own play so you 846 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 16: don't have to deal with a change in offensive coordinator. 847 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 16: And you also need a new quarterback Aaron Rodgers. That 848 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 16: can't be as final. You would have to be a 849 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 16: terrible player, a terrible person. Excuse me to watch what 850 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 16: Aaron Rodgers was going through last night with that horrific 851 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 16: pick six, this horrible effort trying to tackle him. 852 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 10: You would have to be a horrible person to enjoy that. 853 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 16: Well, the good news is I'm a horrible person because 854 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 16: I love it and in the words of my coach 855 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 16: Ben Johnson, I hate that team and. 856 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 10: Their former quarterback Tom Back. 857 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: To you, Rank, breaking down a week that was while 858 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: also doing a tribute to a show that was fairly 859 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: outdating graphics of the background their NFL Now which was 860 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,959 Speaker 1: replaced by some other show I don't even remember. 861 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 3: Rank, Thank you very much for being here. 862 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: You go over to edvil dot com slash rookies right 863 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: now voting to the Pepsi zero Sugar Rookie of the Week. 864 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: One last chance cast votes now more insiders after this 865 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: huge news today out of Pittsburgh where Mike Tomlin has 866 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: stepped down as the Steelers head coach after nineteen seasons. 867 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: Tomlin was one of the longest tenured coaches in the NFL, 868 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: a mark that belongs to Andy Reid. Number two on 869 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 1: that list, with no Tomlin, no John Harbaugh, a three 870 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: way tie between Sean McDermot, Kyle Shanahan, and Sean McVay. 871 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: That's right, Sean McVay, who is still not forty years old, 872 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 1: tied for the second longest standard head. 873 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 10: Coach in the NFL. 874 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 3: It's been a weird year. 875 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 7: See you 876 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 8: H