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Speaker 1: episode description. Okay, I'm Susi Esman.
Speaker 3: You are Jeff Garland.
Speaker 1: We are on episode four of season one, the Bracelet.
Speaker 3: I just want to say something, and I don't know
Speaker 3: how we can work this out, but I know true
Speaker 3: crime shows are very popular, so I think it'd be
Speaker 3: really good if we tied in, even though it's fictionalized
Speaker 3: some episode of murder, some episode of chasing someone, maybe
Speaker 3: a serial killer, through each episode of our show, because
Speaker 3: people love that. I know I do.
Speaker 1: Well, you know I like fake crime as opposed to
Speaker 1: true crime.
Speaker 3: I like them both. We do watch the same shows
Speaker 3: on BBC one with that we do.
Speaker 2: We love our morses and our endeavors.
Speaker 1: And yeah, all right, start out the episode, and Larry
Speaker 1: is watching. Larry is a long suffering Jets fan, as
Speaker 1: most all Jets fans are, but.
Speaker 3: As we're back to budget and what have you. Yes,
Speaker 3: he's watching the Jets in his performance. But on TV,
Speaker 3: I think it's like Vikings Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Is that what it is? I couldn't even.
Speaker 3: Watches a second time. I'm pretty sure it's Vikings Cowboys.
Speaker 2: So it's But he says it's the Giants.
Speaker 3: No, he doesn't say Giants. I don't think.
Speaker 1: No, Yes, he does. He's mention because I'm a Giants fan.
Speaker 1: So I noticed it. He mentions, and he's screaming at
Speaker 1: the TV, you know, very very involved in the game.
Speaker 1: And Cheryl comes home with luggage. She's clearly been out
Speaker 1: of town and hasn't seen him for a number of days.
Speaker 2: And what happens, He's not the thing, and she gets
Speaker 2: leaves angry. That's right.
Speaker 3: So I have two thoughts here. Number one, his beard
Speaker 3: is clearly fait and it does look like he's been
Speaker 3: in a chimney.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. He's very disheveled looking.
Speaker 3: He's very disheveled. But also the number of times that
Speaker 3: my wife of your or my girlfriend have come in
Speaker 3: forget football, where it happens, baseball last inning. They also
Speaker 3: come in on it's the last ten minutes of the wire.
Speaker 3: I've had that one happen at the end of the
Speaker 3: Sopranos ship, I had to switch to another.
Speaker 2: So I have timing. You're talking about timing, Yes.
Speaker 3: But I have never walked in on any of the
Speaker 3: women in my life and said I wanted to talk
Speaker 3: about something and they're at the end of something. I
Speaker 3: don't know what it is that's sniffed out or has
Speaker 3: how this happens, but it happens. So I loved watching that,
Speaker 3: and I felt for him because there's two minutes left.
Speaker 1: And well, I think my husband's very lucky that I'm
Speaker 1: a big sports fan because I know better.
Speaker 3: Can I just say a blanket statement?
Speaker 2: Your husband's very lucky as am I.
Speaker 3: He's a champ. I did. Yes, I was at your
Speaker 3: wedding for criminal.
Speaker 2: I know so hat that.
Speaker 3: Your mother got angry at me for wearing a hat.
Speaker 3: It was a dandy hat.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even a pi hat pork pi hat.
Speaker 2: Why did she get angry at you for the pork
Speaker 2: pie hat?
Speaker 3: She felt it was disrespectful at your wedding to wear
Speaker 3: She had so many issues. No, but she really, but
Speaker 3: she yelled at me.
Speaker 2: Did she really?
Speaker 3: Oh? She did? And then we made out.
Speaker 2: Jeff, that's gone too far to me.
Speaker 3: Not make out, but she kissed me gently on the
Speaker 3: forehead and said, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: No, I doubt she ever did that.
Speaker 3: She did not do that.
Speaker 2: No, she did not.
Speaker 1: I know my mother no longer with us, So you know, again,
Speaker 1: this is the marriage.
Speaker 2: You know, this is the thing.
Speaker 1: And then she gives him the silent treatment later in
Speaker 1: the bedroom and you know, you just see that he's
Speaker 1: but the beard, by the way, is another example of
Speaker 1: this first season how low budget and slap dash things were.
Speaker 3: Rapdash is the key word there. A lot of it
Speaker 3: was put together with bubblegum and paste. You know, It's
Speaker 3: just we had to do what we had to do.
Speaker 3: And I also, as I mentioned before, wear suits that
Speaker 3: I'm not crazy about.
Speaker 2: But there was something kind of fun.
Speaker 1: It was almost like, you know, I got a barn
Speaker 1: let's put on a show kind of a feeling, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Generally, most bands, except for maybe the Beatles and a
Speaker 3: few others, your first album is your best album, and
Speaker 3: then if that's successful, it's a slow degrade downwards because
Speaker 3: you start believing the hype. We worked from in the vacuum.
Speaker 3: We had no money, we had no idea how people
Speaker 3: were going to receive this, and so there was an
Speaker 3: energy there and they willing to do stuff I'm talking
Speaker 3: about behind the scenes, you know, put up with stuff.
Speaker 2: And a silliness and a fun It was just a silly.
Speaker 3: Idea where we go more than these ten episodes, not
Speaker 3: a clue. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The other thing that struck me in the he's trying
Speaker 1: to make come with Cheryl. He's talking about soy milk
Speaker 1: and that it's bad for you. And again another theme
Speaker 1: of Larry's is his health paranoia that gets laid out here.
Speaker 1: And you know what has struck me When I'm looking
Speaker 1: like the last episode, I was saying, he wouldn't have
Speaker 1: worn that. You know, he's wearing something he wouldn't have worn.
Speaker 1: In this episode, their comforter seemed so out of character. Okay,
Speaker 1: they had this big floral comforter.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up because I wanted to
Speaker 3: talk about that. I wrote down the note. How ridiculous
Speaker 3: is their bedroom? The bedroom looks like they just got
Speaker 3: out of college and this is their first place together exactly.
Speaker 3: It makes no sense and you have the comfort everything
Speaker 3: about this show aesthetically very confusing.
Speaker 2: Very confusing.
Speaker 1: It changes Yeah, for me, it's so interesting to see,
Speaker 1: you know, how it's changed. And again what we were
Speaker 1: just talking about, the slap dashness of it, everything from
Speaker 1: the set design to the camera worked everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not much time, not much money.
Speaker 1: And he tries to explain to her by saying, this
Speaker 1: is like you watching the Oscars and it's the last
Speaker 1: minute and it's the best actress.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, that's a good analogy too.
Speaker 1: And then Larry goes to his office and gets a
Speaker 1: note that Bill Scheft called once again an old comedy friend.
Speaker 1: My dear friend, Bill Scheft is just thrown The name
Speaker 1: is just thrown in just for delightful.
Speaker 3: This is the second time Bill Chef's called the show. Yeah. OK.
Speaker 1: And Larry is dressed in like ripped, dirty, disgusting sweats
Speaker 1: and he's unshaven and he looks like a homeless guylained
Speaker 1: why he's dressed like that, He just says, I'm going
Speaker 1: to the gym, and his assistance is like this, you
Speaker 1: look disgusting, and he never We don't really know he
Speaker 1: hasn't shaved because Cheryl's been out of town. Why he
Speaker 1: hasn't been shaved by the next day when she's back home.
Speaker 2: I don't know he's never really.
Speaker 3: Dressed like a peg. He's going to the gym.
Speaker 2: Because it serves the story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I hate when the logic goes out the window.
Speaker 3: I wasn't here for a lot of this episode. I'm
Speaker 3: not in it, but I wasn't here as a producer
Speaker 3: because my son, Duke was born during this episode.
Speaker 2: Oh is that true of the day.
Speaker 3: They filmed the fight in front of the jewelry store.
Speaker 3: Duke was born that day.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's my younger son.
Speaker 1: We're happy you weren't there because we're happy Duke was born. Yes,
Speaker 1: delightful young man he is. But I don't think it's
Speaker 1: ever explained beyond that. And his assistant I forgot her name.
Speaker 1: I love her. She's terrific.
Speaker 3: Spoiler and that's spoiler.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's try I might.
Speaker 3: Be mispronouncing it. I'll double check.
Speaker 1: And she tells him he has to get a gift,
Speaker 1: which she does to shower to make up. This is
Speaker 1: nothing like a gift jewelry.
Speaker 3: Yes, that always is a winner.
Speaker 1: I'm always shocked that men don't understand the power of
Speaker 1: the flower.
Speaker 2: It's the simplest thing you know here in New York.
Speaker 1: On every corner there's a Delhi or whatever where you
Speaker 1: could just buy a bunch of flowers, and it means everything,
Speaker 1: and it solves everything, and they're stupid not to take advantage.
Speaker 3: By the way, I've done the flower thing many times,
Speaker 3: but I'm horrible at buying Marla, my wife of your
Speaker 3: either for Christmas, Hanuka, whatever, or her birthday. I know
Speaker 3: that I gave her these two gifts, which she wanted,
Speaker 3: but I gave her a drill. Now he's like, what
Speaker 3: the fuck a drill?
Speaker 2: Drill is a great thing to have, but not as
Speaker 2: a man gift.
Speaker 3: And then the other time a barbecue. But by the way, well,
Speaker 3: and I totally screwed up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, barbecue is a wonderful thing to have.
Speaker 3: No, I know my heart was in the right place,
Speaker 3: but I admit to being an idiot.
Speaker 1: So there's a bracelet Cheryl loves in this jewelry store.
Speaker 1: He goes to this jewelry store and he looks like
Speaker 1: a homeless guy and he gets into an argument with
Speaker 1: a real homeless guy looking similar to him in front,
Speaker 1: and they don't let him in, so he needs to
Speaker 1: call a friend to go into the store to buy
Speaker 1: the bracelet for him, and he calls his very very
Speaker 1: dear friend, Richard Lewis. Yes, who shows up in a
Speaker 1: Jimmy Hendrix tie.
Speaker 3: By the way, I noticed that too at a hipster
Speaker 3: No I know, but I saw it, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: what kind of goofy ties man? And I look closer,
Speaker 3: it's a Jimmy Hendrix.
Speaker 2: That's Jimmy Hendricks.
Speaker 3: I remember we go on on tour and he always
Speaker 3: had to go last, which you and I were fine with,
Speaker 3: and he came on always to purple head Hendricks Yeah,
Speaker 3: purple heads.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have to understand that rich is a throwback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, a lot of his jokes that even tells
Speaker 3: on the show our throwback. For example, he looked at
Speaker 3: Larry and said, which is midnight Cowboy reference? But you know,
Speaker 3: I loved it. But only people are midnight Cowboy fans
Speaker 3: would understand that. And I don't know how many there are,
Speaker 3: but I would guess per TV show, we have the
Speaker 3: highest percentage of midnight cowboy fans of any comedy.
Speaker 1: Be right back, stay tuned, and we're back just for
Speaker 1: a little aside here, and we'll have Richard on more
Speaker 1: than once. At some point and he could tell the
Speaker 1: story as well, but just to give the audience some background.
Speaker 1: Richard and Larry they were born in the same hospital,
Speaker 1: like a few weeks apart. They're born the same year.
Speaker 1: They didn't know each other then, and they went to
Speaker 1: the same camp, the same sleep boy camp, and they
Speaker 1: hated one another the Sleepwoy camp where they were twelve
Speaker 1: thirteen something like that. Cut to years later, they're both
Speaker 1: at the Improv on West forty fourth Street, right around
Speaker 1: the corner where I am right now, and they look
Speaker 1: at each other.
Speaker 2: They're like, cool, you look familiar. I don't know who you.
Speaker 1: They're both doing stand up and they realized that they
Speaker 1: were the same guys that they hated each other years
Speaker 1: ago in sleep boy camp, and then they became fast
Speaker 1: friends for the rest of their lives and they are
Speaker 1: very very close friends and have been for many, many years.
Speaker 1: So that's the background on them, yes, But so Lewis
Speaker 1: shows up wearing his Hendrix tie and he's standing in
Speaker 1: front of the store to show him, but the store
Speaker 1: closes for lunch and Lewis wants to walk to lunch
Speaker 1: and Larry doesn't want to. Nobody walks in la Lewis
Speaker 1: wants to walk. I felt like that was like, you know, who.
Speaker 3: Wanted to go was quite the distance?
Speaker 1: Quite the distance? Yeah, I walk in LA, but that's
Speaker 1: because I'm a New Yorker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's certain neighborhoods where everybody walks. But you
Speaker 3: got to be in that neighborhood because everybody will drive
Speaker 3: to that neighborhood. You know, I remember walking from Soho
Speaker 3: to the Upper West Side talking about it.
Speaker 2: I've done that many times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm just saying that's normal. If you tell
Speaker 3: the New Yorker you did that, they go, oh, look
Speaker 3: at you. Nothing more than that. If you expect them
Speaker 3: to go, you did that doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but in LA it's it's odd.
Speaker 3: By the way in LA people walk when they go
Speaker 3: on hikes, and I find that very unappealing. I liked
Speaker 3: knowing in New York that I'm walking.
Speaker 2: Is exactly there's a destination.
Speaker 3: By the way. My wife of your and I can't
Speaker 3: think of something better than ex wife. I'm trying because
Speaker 3: I hate ex wife, and I will change it as
Speaker 3: the podcast goes.
Speaker 2: You can't say my old wife, but what she used
Speaker 2: to do, she used.
Speaker 3: To want to go for a walk. In the middle
Speaker 3: of the walk, she would get to something where she
Speaker 3: was upset about and something I couldn't function with. I'm stuck.
Speaker 2: You're stuck. You're trapped. There's no uber. Yeah, you're trapped.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you have to wait like the uber. You
Speaker 3: have to wait for the uber. So you're stuck. And
Speaker 3: then taxi cabs don't run up and down suburban la or.
Speaker 2: La, which is you can't hail a cab.
Speaker 3: You cannot hail a cab.
Speaker 2: No, it's not New York.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: So I was asked this question by Becca I believe,
Speaker 1: our supervising producer, who said, is that really the relationship
Speaker 1: between Louis and Larry, this contention and this fighting, because
Speaker 1: if always fighting, is that real?
Speaker 3: And I would say the first scene that you see
Speaker 3: in episode one of them arguing in the office one
Speaker 3: hundred percent real. Them wrestling in front of.
Speaker 2: A place, well that no, that's extreme.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, but I'm saying yes, they they do yell
Speaker 3: at each other and it's funny. And what's great about
Speaker 3: it too, is there's no hurt feelings when they do this.
Speaker 1: So they go to lunch and Larry goes off on
Speaker 1: this whole riff about how women are so offended by
Speaker 1: men's genitalia that they have to be in love with
Speaker 1: them to sleep with them and to have sex with them.
Speaker 2: They have to really love the man to get involved
Speaker 2: with that grotesque phoenix. I totally disagree with that.
Speaker 3: I totally agree, well, I dine. I used to agree
Speaker 3: because I always thought that they were doing us a
Speaker 3: favor by going down and blowing us. And I don't
Speaker 3: like going down blowing, Okay, So I always thought that
Speaker 3: they were doing it to be kind or they were
Speaker 3: really in love with someone, just like he says. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I over the years, many women I know they
Speaker 3: told me how much they loved doing it.
Speaker 1: To me, that is a completely adolescent sense of women's sexuality.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're talking about men, Yes, exactly like lessons.
Speaker 3: I mean, come on.
Speaker 1: And then there's the whole run about the captain's tip,
Speaker 1: which also Anna and Becka didn't even know what that was.
Speaker 1: That's a very old fashioned thing because most restaurants don't
Speaker 1: do that anymore, but it used to be de Ragora.
Speaker 2: I think, were you tip the matre?
Speaker 3: D you tip the captain at fine like steakhouses, like
Speaker 3: fine restaurants. By the way, that's the thing from maybe
Speaker 3: the latest they did that on a regular basis was
Speaker 3: the sixties, you know, for a nicer restaurant.
Speaker 1: But it's like if you went to El Morocco or
Speaker 1: twenty one, those great place.
Speaker 3: It's old and historic. And yeah, by the way, I've
Speaker 3: had a few dinners with a captain and I was
Speaker 3: completely confused. What do you tip the captain?
Speaker 2: And who is the captain?
Speaker 3: The actor?
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, who the captain? You know, it's
Speaker 2: like me weird. It's not like it's not a ship.
Speaker 3: It's not the captain like waiter self explanatory.
Speaker 2: But the captain d D is understanding.
Speaker 3: That episode, I don't know what a captain is to me.
Speaker 2: That was a very old person reference.
Speaker 3: No, I thought it was great because he showed that
Speaker 3: it wasn't an old person reference even though it's an
Speaker 3: old reference. By being confused.
Speaker 1: By it, I'm not criticizing the reference. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that it was a lot of people don't even know
Speaker 1: that that exists anymore, and it did.
Speaker 2: It was a thing.
Speaker 3: And by the way, I guarantee there are a few
Speaker 3: places still that have a captain.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I think actually the Carlisle does.
Speaker 3: By the way, you'd expect the captain there. Yeah, they're
Speaker 3: not going to go captain list.
Speaker 1: So after they finish all that, and they go back
Speaker 1: to the jewelry store and there is Michael the Blind Guy.
Speaker 1: I forgot that Michael the Blind Guy was in this
Speaker 1: episode called the Blind Guy becomes a major character in
Speaker 1: the ben still a season what was that, season three
Speaker 1: or four, I don't remember, but he becomes a major
Speaker 1: character and a major.
Speaker 2: Storyline of the season. In a later season yep.
Speaker 3: And by the way, the most wonderful guy. And he's
Speaker 3: so and if I remember correctly, he wasn't blind.
Speaker 2: No, he's not blind.
Speaker 3: But by the way, I have no problem with that. Nowadays,
Speaker 3: you would either cast a blind person or give a
Speaker 3: blind person every opportunity to get the role. And you
Speaker 3: know a lot of times you want to do that,
Speaker 3: and they're not the best person. That being said, and
Speaker 3: this is my big belief that you don't automatically cast
Speaker 3: somebody because of something like that. But they should damn
Speaker 3: well get all the opportunities they can. You make the
Speaker 3: effort more than an effort. It's like a must to
Speaker 3: be inclusive. But I am not of the one where
Speaker 3: you have to hire the blind person. There you go,
Speaker 3: because actors can play lots of things. And by the way,
Speaker 3: I threw that out there because I know that half
Speaker 3: of you are going to agree and half of you
Speaker 3: are going to think I'm a moron. Well you're both right.
Speaker 3: Those of you who agree with me great, and those
Speaker 3: of you who think I'm a moron, I am a moron.
Speaker 3: So both sides win. When it comes to me saying something, I.
Speaker 1: Could attest to that, yes, And I love how Lewis says,
Speaker 1: how could.
Speaker 2: You say blind man in front of a blind man?
Speaker 3: By the way, in my opinion, that's the funniest moment
Speaker 3: of the show. It's Larius. He says blind man in
Speaker 3: front of a blind man? And then what does Richard say?
Speaker 3: What's the term? He says? Later someone who can't see?
Speaker 3: He says something in Larry's which is the essentially of
Speaker 3: saying blind man.
Speaker 1: It was almost but I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: And then Richard brings up a whole thing about recovering alcoholic.
Speaker 1: I think Lewis's recovering alcoholic line should be a drinking game,
Speaker 1: because in every episode practically he slips in that recovery.
Speaker 3: I thought I would be a drinking game. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: love that. My relations although I don't know I met
Speaker 3: him in stand up. I don't know what his story
Speaker 3: was then. But on curb the fact that I pretty
Speaker 3: much only worked with the sober Richard Lewis and we
Speaker 3: even go to.
Speaker 1: Aam Me too, I did not really. I mean I
Speaker 1: knew him a little bit. You know, he's legendary, he's
Speaker 1: older than us, and he was already so you know,
Speaker 1: he was amazing when we came up as congra.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you the date, nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've only known him well sober as well.
Speaker 1: I didn't know him in his crazy days.
Speaker 3: I did, but were friends. I know, we weren't friends.
Speaker 3: Then we become close friends since the show.
Speaker 1: Then Michael the blind guy gilts them into going to
Speaker 1: his apartment to move his furniture, which I think that
Speaker 1: premise is hilarious.
Speaker 3: Right, and by the way, that scene is hilarious, hilarious
Speaker 3: and again like the scene in the last episode of
Speaker 3: getting Directions with that Lady, difficult scene. It's very difficult
Speaker 3: to pull off these guys moving and moving and moving
Speaker 3: his furniture until they can escape. It feels real. I'll
Speaker 3: tell you what didn't feel real is Richard's hair when
Speaker 3: he was done.
Speaker 2: Because he was so sweaty and exhausted.
Speaker 3: And you could have pulled that off with him being sweaty,
Speaker 3: but he had the sweat of somebody who just it
Speaker 3: just was too extreme. I don't know if he's ever
Speaker 3: been sweaty like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that whole scene I think is so funny. And
Speaker 1: Larry referring to as a deceptive blind man.
Speaker 2: Didn't mislead us, He didn't tell us the truth about
Speaker 2: what we had to move.
Speaker 3: He was a deceptive blind man, which he was.
Speaker 2: He was very deceptive and very manipulative.
Speaker 3: And that's also one of those scenes where you actually
Speaker 3: feel bad for Richard and Larry. They don't come up
Speaker 3: very often, don't come feel so bad. That was. But
Speaker 3: I have to say, Larry did not know that he
Speaker 3: was going to bring back the blind Man. You know
Speaker 3: he does that, He doesn't right now.
Speaker 2: He didn't know at that time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, but you know, those things kind of
Speaker 1: trigger him. I mean, it's the things that inspire him
Speaker 1: that he'll be writing the next season and then he'll
Speaker 1: remember Michael the blind Man from season one or whatever,
Speaker 1: and he's like, he reuses it, and you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of characters and a lot of
Speaker 1: actors inspire him. We have a scene like that this
Speaker 1: season that I'm not going to mention what it is
Speaker 1: of somebody from a previous season who inspired him to
Speaker 1: come back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty brilliant. Actually, yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: And then Richard says to him, is it true or
Speaker 2: not that I have more? I don't know.
Speaker 3: By the way, that's straight out of real life.
Speaker 2: Totally.
Speaker 3: That is so straight out of real life that he
Speaker 3: would say that to Larry. And what would Larry's reaction be?
Speaker 3: He'd burst out laughing.
Speaker 1: First of yeah, I know, we'll be right back, stay tuned, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're back. Who's real and who's not? Richard Lewis is
Speaker 1: Richard Lewis, I'm Sussie.
Speaker 3: This is a horrible thing to say. The only one of.
Speaker 2: Us who's I know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 3: But people don't understand Richard Lewis is more Richard Lewis
Speaker 3: off camera. Like on camera he's a little pulled back,
Speaker 3: but off camera he's I'll say ten times what he
Speaker 3: is on the show.
Speaker 1: But like episode two, it was Ted and Mary it
Speaker 1: was Ted Dance. So and Cheryl's name is Cheryl, but
Speaker 1: she's Cheryl Hines, not Cheryl David, and so there is
Speaker 1: a confusion. I would just want people to understand that,
Speaker 1: really we're all characters, even if Ted Danson is playing
Speaker 1: Ted Danson and you know whoever, Larry David is playing
Speaker 1: Larry David.
Speaker 3: And by the way, I think it's quite the challenge
Speaker 3: to play yourself, it really is that.
Speaker 1: But I don't think any of them are playing themselves.
Speaker 1: They're all playing a Carora Well version.
Speaker 3: Of themselves that Larry creates. And we have more stories
Speaker 3: about Ted Danson in that arena, if you will.
Speaker 2: A lot coming up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, so none of us are who we We're all acting.
Speaker 3: You especially are so far from that characters. The thing
Speaker 3: that's sim between you and the SUSI and thing. You
Speaker 3: won't do any silly stuff that I asked for.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't suffer fools gladly, as you know.
Speaker 3: But you really Larry plays along with me. Cheryl's my
Speaker 3: number one play alonger, which people don't know, and you
Speaker 3: will not do any like I've had Larry go up
Speaker 3: to extras and explain to all of them. How he
Speaker 3: collects lotions from around the world, which I found hilarious.
Speaker 3: You would never do that, you know that, Cheryl. We
Speaker 3: were filming in a hospital and there was a lot
Speaker 3: of doctor cock on fire. Yes, all right, well, but
Speaker 3: it is true. So that's you're completely not that And
Speaker 3: I am so not like the character at.
Speaker 2: All, And neither is Larry in so many ways.
Speaker 3: By the way, no, no, forget so many ways. He's
Speaker 3: not like his character at all. But hold on, JB.
Speaker 3: Nothing like nothing like Leon. You know what he'd love though.
Speaker 3: He loves staying in character. After they yell cut and
Speaker 3: I walk up to him and go, am I dealing
Speaker 3: with JB? Or am I dealing with Leon right now?
Speaker 3: And he keeps going and then he bursts out laughing
Speaker 3: because he loves to continue it for whatever.
Speaker 1: But the confusion I think is less for us because
Speaker 1: you're playing Jeff Green and now plays his Green. Then
Speaker 1: for the people Ted Danson, Richard Lewis, a million others
Speaker 1: that John Ham, whoever it is that are have their
Speaker 1: real name and their real profession, let's say, but they're
Speaker 1: still acting.
Speaker 2: It's still not their character.
Speaker 3: Shure Lewis is even acting, but like I said, he's
Speaker 3: the only one that is.
Speaker 1: His character similar to his character, very similar, right, But
Speaker 1: even so it's not him.
Speaker 3: No, No, he's acting, you know, right. He buys into
Speaker 3: whatever story Larry right, right, And I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: And I wanted a Claire for that because people that
Speaker 1: we're working with here ask that question they were confused.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't confuse us because we're in it, we know,
Speaker 1: but it's nice to get another perspective, all right.
Speaker 2: So Lewis has more serenity than Larry.
Speaker 1: And then Larry's again watching the football game and again
Speaker 1: screaming and yelling at the TV, which I'm sure he
Speaker 1: really does, and he figures out that he lost his
Speaker 1: credit card and he's got to go back to the
Speaker 1: restaurant to get it. But in the interim he got
Speaker 1: Cheryl Roses and they're all made up and that worked,
Speaker 1: so he doesn't feel as though he needs to get
Speaker 1: the bracelet any longer.
Speaker 3: What was the scene where Larry answers the phone and
Speaker 3: he hands it to the guy in the street and says,
Speaker 3: if it's a man, give me the phone. If it's
Speaker 3: a woman, he's calling, He's I know he's calling Richard Lewis.
Speaker 1: Initially, but yeah, that was much earlier. And Bob Whitey,
Speaker 1: who directed the episode, is playing the man.
Speaker 3: Even though I made fun of him all the time
Speaker 3: for that performance, he was really good.
Speaker 2: He was very good.
Speaker 3: Confusion, I thought he was great.
Speaker 2: So there he was very good.
Speaker 3: Let's go back in the future.
Speaker 1: So he's got Cheryl the roses, he doesn't need to
Speaker 1: go spend money on a bracelet.
Speaker 2: She accepted the roses. They were all made up.
Speaker 1: Lewis then says, can I buy that bracelet for my girlfriend?
Speaker 1: And Larry's like sure. But of course right after that,
Speaker 1: Cheryl comes in and says.
Speaker 2: I think I really do want that bracelet.
Speaker 1: And he says, but we already made up. So I
Speaker 1: told Louis that his girlfriend could have the bracelet, and
Speaker 1: of course Cheryl's not happy about that at all. So
Speaker 1: Larry cleans himself up. He's in a tie in a
Speaker 1: button down shirt, he shaves, and he goes to the
Speaker 1: restaurant to pick up the credit card. And who's playing
Speaker 1: the hostess but Laura fair Child at the time. Now Striker,
Speaker 1: who was then Larry's assistant is now one of our
Speaker 1: executive producers and is a great producer and writer.
Speaker 2: And she looks absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 3: She still looks bad, she still looks so beautiful.
Speaker 2: She's a beautiful person inside and out.
Speaker 3: She really is though.
Speaker 2: And also her acting was terrific.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she did great. By the way to the show
Speaker 3: is just be a person. Don't put a spin on it.
Speaker 3: Be a person. You know.
Speaker 1: I've never been in the casting process with you guys,
Speaker 1: but I would imagine you must see people come in
Speaker 1: who put on such a show.
Speaker 3: Okay, so there's two things. Now, we do it everybody
Speaker 3: home tapes.
Speaker 2: We don't do it pandemic.
Speaker 3: Yes, they just give their real you know. Most of
Speaker 3: the time. The weird, weird, weird thing about the audition
Speaker 3: process is people come into audition, but they're acting with
Speaker 3: the people they'd be doing it Larry, myself, Cheryl, Larry
Speaker 3: and I Cheryl and Larry, you know, and so it
Speaker 3: throws them. I go out and prepare them for that.
Speaker 3: I introduce myself. This is why I love doing it
Speaker 3: in person. So that being said, if you come in
Speaker 3: and put a spin on anything, try and make it funny,
Speaker 3: you're not going to be hired. Bill.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: Let me also say about that, for many many seasons,
Speaker 1: Larry would never allow the guest stars to see the outlines.
Speaker 3: Because he means, no, I don't pay attention.
Speaker 1: Yes he does now. But starting last season I think
Speaker 1: was the first season he ever.
Speaker 3: When you think about it was a season twelve or
Speaker 3: what was it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, season thirty, the season eleven, I think, And the
Speaker 1: reason for that.
Speaker 3: Years people were just coming in cold.
Speaker 1: Right, And the reason for that was he didn't want
Speaker 1: them preparing lines and stuff ahead of time.
Speaker 3: See, I think if you give people the sides and
Speaker 3: they know the show's improvise, they will come up with jokes,
Speaker 3: whereas if they're standing there and they know nothing except
Speaker 3: what Jeff Shaefer explains is going to happen. Which, by
Speaker 3: the way, I don't read the outlines. I read the
Speaker 3: outlines when they're first written. So before we start the season,
Speaker 3: I've read every episode and then I basically blank out.
Speaker 3: And when I get to set, I say to Jeff Schaeffer,
Speaker 3: all right, what happens in this scene? Because I know
Speaker 3: I'm not preparing anything.
Speaker 1: But but you know what, Jeff, I like to know
Speaker 1: because I like to gauge my performance. If somebody's yelling
Speaker 1: and screaming at him, in the scene before. I like
Speaker 1: to know what that.
Speaker 3: You never got the sides before?
Speaker 2: No, I always got them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what are you talking.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I like to know what's the through
Speaker 1: line of the episode, so that I could know. Okay,
Speaker 1: somebody screaming and yelling at him the scene before, then
Speaker 1: maybe I'm.
Speaker 2: Going to be a little lower, Okay, but you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 3: The people aren't getting the full outline. They're just getting
Speaker 3: their scene outline. If I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2: They don't even get that.
Speaker 1: Usually now they do, but in the past they would
Speaker 1: just show up on set and they would be told
Speaker 1: what the scene is about. They did not see anything
Speaker 1: written for years.
Speaker 3: By the way, but in my eyes, an improvised show
Speaker 3: or an improvise movie, you don't let anybody read the outline.
Speaker 3: You tell them on the need to know basis. But
Speaker 3: now they're so dense the outlines that I think people
Speaker 3: have complicated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for many, many seasons, the only people that the
Speaker 1: outlines were you and me and Larry. Obviously, Cheryl was
Speaker 1: allowed to read the outlines, but she didn't want to,
Speaker 1: and Richard for a long time was dying to read
Speaker 1: the outlines and Larry wouldn't let them.
Speaker 3: Because even without the outlines, he were on a million jokes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's his thing. So then Larry goes to buy Cheryl.
Speaker 3: For those of you here water in the background, they
Speaker 3: should know we're not being we're pouring ourselves.
Speaker 2: Water, not being.
Speaker 1: Larry dresses up like a mench and he goes and
Speaker 1: he's going to get there really really early to get
Speaker 1: the bracelet a shark because he's got to beat Lewis.
Speaker 1: There's many many things throughout the seasons where he's beating
Speaker 1: Lewis at something, you know, getting to a restaurant early, whatever.
Speaker 1: But first he has to stop at the restaurant where
Speaker 1: he did not tip the captain in order to get
Speaker 1: his credit card that he left there. And of course
Speaker 1: the captain is there and Laura is playing.
Speaker 3: The mat the captain parked about.
Speaker 1: To say that, okay, yeah, the captain blocks Larry's car,
Speaker 1: parks and in front of him and blocks Larry's car in,
Speaker 1: and the captain then refuses to move his car because
Speaker 1: Larry didn't tip him. It's the most petty, mean gesture
Speaker 1: I think of the captain.
Speaker 3: Oh can I tell you something you don't want to
Speaker 3: fuck with a captain.
Speaker 1: Just don't who knew the power of the captain, They
Speaker 1: don't have senses of him. And Larry then has to
Speaker 1: literally run to the jewelry shore, which of course makes
Speaker 1: no sense in la because they wouldn't be even near
Speaker 1: each other, but whatever, and Lewis is going to the
Speaker 1: jewelry shore to get the bracelet, and the two of
Speaker 1: them end up having a knockdown fight in the vestibule.
Speaker 3: That they do, which is hilarious.
Speaker 2: Which is hilarious, And that's the end of the episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that feels good. That felt good. Did you
Speaker 3: enjoy yourself?
Speaker 2: Yes, I did, and very very much so.
Speaker 1: Well, that's and I feel like this was an episode
Speaker 1: that established the which is a theme for twelve seasons
Speaker 1: as well, the Larry Lewis dynamic. I mean, last the
Speaker 1: be there at sundown, you know in episodis one had
Speaker 1: that thing, but this you get the more sense of
Speaker 1: their friendship in this one, and they go on to
Speaker 1: lunch and you know all of that.
Speaker 3: And that is the complexity of a friendship when it's
Speaker 3: real is that there's so many ups and downs, so
Speaker 3: many arguments. I say that because right now, an old
Speaker 3: friend of mine and we're not doing too well, and
Speaker 3: you think we should make up. I know I will.
Speaker 3: I've already forgiven.
Speaker 2: Now I'm just gonna is this who I think it is?
Speaker 3: Well? Who else is there? I don't know.
Speaker 2: You've told me about two or three.
Speaker 3: I told you one that's not a friend, okay, but
Speaker 3: you know who it is. I want our listeners to guess.
Speaker 3: Please write us.
Speaker 2: I don't know do they get a prize?
Speaker 3: Too much information? But listen. Thank you so very much
Speaker 3: for listening to us. It is an honor that you're
Speaker 3: taking time out of your day to listen. I know
Speaker 3: a lot of you are listening in the car and
Speaker 3: it makes your journey better. There you go. How exciting
Speaker 3: is that for us?
Speaker 2: And don't forget to tip your captain?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you ever come in contact with the captain?
Speaker 2: Did the right thing because they have power? Baby?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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