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Okay, I'm Susi Esman. 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: You are Jeff Garland. 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: We are on episode four of season one, the Bracelet. 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: I just want to say something, and I don't know 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 3: how we can work this out, but I know true 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: crime shows are very popular, so I think it'd be 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: really good if we tied in, even though it's fictionalized 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: some episode of murder, some episode of chasing someone, maybe 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: a serial killer, through each episode of our show, because 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: people love that. I know I do. 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Well, you know I like fake crime as opposed to 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: true crime. 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: I like them both. We do watch the same shows 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: on BBC one with that we do. 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: We love our morses and our endeavors. 22 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: And yeah, all right, start out the episode, and Larry 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: is watching. Larry is a long suffering Jets fan, as 24 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: most all Jets fans are, but. 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: As we're back to budget and what have you. Yes, 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: he's watching the Jets in his performance. But on TV, 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 3: I think it's like Vikings Cowboys. 28 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: Is that what it is? I couldn't even. 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: Watches a second time. I'm pretty sure it's Vikings Cowboys. 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: So it's But he says it's the Giants. 31 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 3: No, he doesn't say Giants. I don't think. 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: No, Yes, he does. He's mention because I'm a Giants fan. 33 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: So I noticed it. He mentions, and he's screaming at 34 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: the TV, you know, very very involved in the game. 35 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: And Cheryl comes home with luggage. She's clearly been out 36 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: of town and hasn't seen him for a number of days. 37 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: And what happens, He's not the thing, and she gets 38 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: leaves angry. That's right. 39 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: So I have two thoughts here. Number one, his beard 40 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: is clearly fait and it does look like he's been 41 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: in a chimney. 42 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. He's very disheveled looking. 43 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: He's very disheveled. But also the number of times that 44 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: my wife of your or my girlfriend have come in 45 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: forget football, where it happens, baseball last inning. They also 46 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: come in on it's the last ten minutes of the wire. 47 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: I've had that one happen at the end of the 48 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: Sopranos ship, I had to switch to another. 49 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: So I have timing. You're talking about timing, Yes. 50 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: But I have never walked in on any of the 51 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 3: women in my life and said I wanted to talk 52 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 3: about something and they're at the end of something. I 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: don't know what it is that's sniffed out or has 54 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: how this happens, but it happens. So I loved watching that, 55 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: and I felt for him because there's two minutes left. 56 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: And well, I think my husband's very lucky that I'm 57 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: a big sports fan because I know better. 58 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: Can I just say a blanket statement? 59 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: Your husband's very lucky as am I. 60 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: He's a champ. I did. Yes, I was at your 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 3: wedding for criminal. 62 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: I know so hat that. 63 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 3: Your mother got angry at me for wearing a hat. 64 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: It was a dandy hat. 65 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't even a pi hat pork pi hat. 66 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 2: Why did she get angry at you for the pork 67 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 2: pie hat? 68 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: She felt it was disrespectful at your wedding to wear 69 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: She had so many issues. No, but she really, but 70 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: she yelled at me. 71 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: Did she really? 72 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: Oh? She did? And then we made out. 73 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: Jeff, that's gone too far to me. 74 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: Not make out, but she kissed me gently on the 75 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: forehead and said, I'm so sorry. 76 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: No, I doubt she ever did that. 77 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: She did not do that. 78 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: No, she did not. 79 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: I know my mother no longer with us, So you know, again, 80 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: this is the marriage. 81 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: You know, this is the thing. 82 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: And then she gives him the silent treatment later in 83 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: the bedroom and you know, you just see that he's 84 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: but the beard, by the way, is another example of 85 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: this first season how low budget and slap dash things were. 86 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: Rapdash is the key word there. A lot of it 87 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: was put together with bubblegum and paste. You know, It's 88 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: just we had to do what we had to do. 89 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: And I also, as I mentioned before, wear suits that 90 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: I'm not crazy about. 91 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: But there was something kind of fun. 92 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: It was almost like, you know, I got a barn 93 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: let's put on a show kind of a feeling, you 94 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean. 95 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: Generally, most bands, except for maybe the Beatles and a 96 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: few others, your first album is your best album, and 97 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: then if that's successful, it's a slow degrade downwards because 98 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: you start believing the hype. We worked from in the vacuum. 99 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 3: We had no money, we had no idea how people 100 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: were going to receive this, and so there was an 101 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: energy there and they willing to do stuff I'm talking 102 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: about behind the scenes, you know, put up with stuff. 103 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: And a silliness and a fun It was just a silly. 104 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: Idea where we go more than these ten episodes, not 105 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: a clue. Yeah. 106 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 107 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: The other thing that struck me in the he's trying 108 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: to make come with Cheryl. He's talking about soy milk 109 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: and that it's bad for you. And again another theme 110 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: of Larry's is his health paranoia that gets laid out here. 111 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: And you know what has struck me When I'm looking 112 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: like the last episode, I was saying, he wouldn't have 113 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: worn that. You know, he's wearing something he wouldn't have worn. 114 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: In this episode, their comforter seemed so out of character. Okay, 115 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: they had this big floral comforter. 116 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up because I wanted to 117 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 3: talk about that. I wrote down the note. How ridiculous 118 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 3: is their bedroom? The bedroom looks like they just got 119 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: out of college and this is their first place together exactly. 120 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: It makes no sense and you have the comfort everything 121 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: about this show aesthetically very confusing. 122 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: Very confusing. 123 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: It changes Yeah, for me, it's so interesting to see, 124 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, how it's changed. And again what we were 125 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: just talking about, the slap dashness of it, everything from 126 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: the set design to the camera worked everything. 127 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, not much time, not much money. 128 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: And he tries to explain to her by saying, this 129 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: is like you watching the Oscars and it's the last 130 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: minute and it's the best actress. 131 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, that's a good analogy too. 132 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: And then Larry goes to his office and gets a 133 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: note that Bill Scheft called once again an old comedy friend. 134 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: My dear friend, Bill Scheft is just thrown The name 135 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: is just thrown in just for delightful. 136 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: This is the second time Bill Chef's called the show. Yeah. OK. 137 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: And Larry is dressed in like ripped, dirty, disgusting sweats 138 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: and he's unshaven and he looks like a homeless guylained 139 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: why he's dressed like that, He just says, I'm going 140 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: to the gym, and his assistance is like this, you 141 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: look disgusting, and he never We don't really know he 142 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: hasn't shaved because Cheryl's been out of town. Why he 143 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,119 Speaker 1: hasn't been shaved by the next day when she's back home. 144 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: I don't know he's never really. 145 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 3: Dressed like a peg. He's going to the gym. 146 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 2: Because it serves the story. 147 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I hate when the logic goes out the window. 148 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: I wasn't here for a lot of this episode. I'm 149 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 3: not in it, but I wasn't here as a producer 150 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: because my son, Duke was born during this episode. 151 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 2: Oh is that true of the day. 152 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: They filmed the fight in front of the jewelry store. 153 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: Duke was born that day. 154 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 155 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: Yes, it's my younger son. 156 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: We're happy you weren't there because we're happy Duke was born. Yes, 157 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: delightful young man he is. But I don't think it's 158 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: ever explained beyond that. And his assistant I forgot her name. 159 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: I love her. She's terrific. 160 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: Spoiler and that's spoiler. 161 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's try I might. 162 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: Be mispronouncing it. I'll double check. 163 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: And she tells him he has to get a gift, 164 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: which she does to shower to make up. This is 165 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: nothing like a gift jewelry. 166 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: Yes, that always is a winner. 167 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm always shocked that men don't understand the power of 168 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: the flower. 169 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: It's the simplest thing you know here in New York. 170 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: On every corner there's a Delhi or whatever where you 171 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: could just buy a bunch of flowers, and it means everything, 172 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: and it solves everything, and they're stupid not to take advantage. 173 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: By the way, I've done the flower thing many times, 174 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: but I'm horrible at buying Marla, my wife of your 175 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: either for Christmas, Hanuka, whatever, or her birthday. I know 176 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: that I gave her these two gifts, which she wanted, 177 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: but I gave her a drill. Now he's like, what 178 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: the fuck a drill? 179 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: Drill is a great thing to have, but not as 180 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: a man gift. 181 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: And then the other time a barbecue. But by the way, well, 182 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: and I totally screwed up. 183 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's bad. 184 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, barbecue is a wonderful thing to have. 185 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: No, I know my heart was in the right place, 186 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: but I admit to being an idiot. 187 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: So there's a bracelet Cheryl loves in this jewelry store. 188 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: He goes to this jewelry store and he looks like 189 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: a homeless guy and he gets into an argument with 190 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: a real homeless guy looking similar to him in front, 191 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: and they don't let him in, so he needs to 192 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: call a friend to go into the store to buy 193 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: the bracelet for him, and he calls his very very 194 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: dear friend, Richard Lewis. Yes, who shows up in a 195 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Hendrix tie. 196 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: By the way, I noticed that too at a hipster 197 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: No I know, but I saw it, and I'm like, 198 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 3: what kind of goofy ties man? And I look closer, 199 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 3: it's a Jimmy Hendrix. 200 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 2: That's Jimmy Hendricks. 201 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: I remember we go on on tour and he always 202 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: had to go last, which you and I were fine with, 203 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 3: and he came on always to purple head Hendricks Yeah, 204 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: purple heads. 205 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have to understand that rich is a throwback. 206 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, a lot of his jokes that even tells 207 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: on the show our throwback. For example, he looked at 208 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: Larry and said, which is midnight Cowboy reference? But you know, 209 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 3: I loved it. But only people are midnight Cowboy fans 210 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: would understand that. And I don't know how many there are, 211 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 3: but I would guess per TV show, we have the 212 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: highest percentage of midnight cowboy fans of any comedy. 213 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: Be right back, stay tuned, and we're back just for 214 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: a little aside here, and we'll have Richard on more 215 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: than once. At some point and he could tell the 216 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: story as well, but just to give the audience some background. 217 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: Richard and Larry they were born in the same hospital, 218 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: like a few weeks apart. They're born the same year. 219 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: They didn't know each other then, and they went to 220 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: the same camp, the same sleep boy camp, and they 221 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: hated one another the Sleepwoy camp where they were twelve 222 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: thirteen something like that. Cut to years later, they're both 223 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: at the Improv on West forty fourth Street, right around 224 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: the corner where I am right now, and they look 225 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: at each other. 226 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 2: They're like, cool, you look familiar. I don't know who you. 227 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: They're both doing stand up and they realized that they 228 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: were the same guys that they hated each other years 229 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: ago in sleep boy camp, and then they became fast 230 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: friends for the rest of their lives and they are 231 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,359 Speaker 1: very very close friends and have been for many, many years. 232 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: So that's the background on them, yes, But so Lewis 233 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: shows up wearing his Hendrix tie and he's standing in 234 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: front of the store to show him, but the store 235 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: closes for lunch and Lewis wants to walk to lunch 236 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: and Larry doesn't want to. Nobody walks in la Lewis 237 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: wants to walk. I felt like that was like, you know, who. 238 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: Wanted to go was quite the distance? 239 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: Quite the distance? Yeah, I walk in LA, but that's 240 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: because I'm a New Yorker. 241 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's certain neighborhoods where everybody walks. But you 242 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: got to be in that neighborhood because everybody will drive 243 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: to that neighborhood. You know, I remember walking from Soho 244 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: to the Upper West Side talking about it. 245 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: I've done that many times. 246 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm just saying that's normal. If you tell 247 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: the New Yorker you did that, they go, oh, look 248 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 3: at you. Nothing more than that. If you expect them 249 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: to go, you did that doesn't exist. 250 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but in LA it's it's odd. 251 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: By the way in LA people walk when they go 252 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: on hikes, and I find that very unappealing. I liked 253 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: knowing in New York that I'm walking. 254 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: Is exactly there's a destination. 255 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: By the way. My wife of your and I can't 256 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: think of something better than ex wife. I'm trying because 257 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: I hate ex wife, and I will change it as 258 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: the podcast goes. 259 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: You can't say my old wife, but what she used 260 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: to do, she used. 261 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: To want to go for a walk. In the middle 262 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: of the walk, she would get to something where she 263 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 3: was upset about and something I couldn't function with. I'm stuck. 264 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: You're stuck. You're trapped. There's no uber. Yeah, you're trapped. 265 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you have to wait like the uber. You 266 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: have to wait for the uber. So you're stuck. And 267 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 3: then taxi cabs don't run up and down suburban la or. 268 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: La, which is you can't hail a cab. 269 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: You cannot hail a cab. 270 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: No, it's not New York. 271 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: No. 272 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: So I was asked this question by Becca I believe, 273 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: our supervising producer, who said, is that really the relationship 274 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: between Louis and Larry, this contention and this fighting, because 275 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: if always fighting, is that real? 276 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: And I would say the first scene that you see 277 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: in episode one of them arguing in the office one 278 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 3: hundred percent real. Them wrestling in front of. 279 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: A place, well that no, that's extreme. 280 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: Yeah no, but I'm saying yes, they they do yell 281 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: at each other and it's funny. And what's great about 282 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: it too, is there's no hurt feelings when they do this. 283 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: So they go to lunch and Larry goes off on 284 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: this whole riff about how women are so offended by 285 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: men's genitalia that they have to be in love with 286 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: them to sleep with them and to have sex with them. 287 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: They have to really love the man to get involved 288 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 2: with that grotesque phoenix. I totally disagree with that. 289 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: I totally agree, well, I dine. I used to agree 290 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: because I always thought that they were doing us a 291 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: favor by going down and blowing us. And I don't 292 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 3: like going down blowing, Okay, So I always thought that 293 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: they were doing it to be kind or they were 294 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: really in love with someone, just like he says. Yeah, 295 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 3: but I over the years, many women I know they 296 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: told me how much they loved doing it. 297 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: To me, that is a completely adolescent sense of women's sexuality. 298 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're talking about men, Yes, exactly like lessons. 299 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: I mean, come on. 300 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: And then there's the whole run about the captain's tip, 301 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: which also Anna and Becka didn't even know what that was. 302 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: That's a very old fashioned thing because most restaurants don't 303 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: do that anymore, but it used to be de Ragora. 304 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: I think, were you tip the matre? 305 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: D you tip the captain at fine like steakhouses, like 306 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: fine restaurants. By the way, that's the thing from maybe 307 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: the latest they did that on a regular basis was 308 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: the sixties, you know, for a nicer restaurant. 309 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: But it's like if you went to El Morocco or 310 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: twenty one, those great place. 311 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: It's old and historic. And yeah, by the way, I've 312 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: had a few dinners with a captain and I was 313 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: completely confused. What do you tip the captain? 314 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: And who is the captain? 315 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: The actor? 316 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, who the captain? You know, it's 317 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: like me weird. It's not like it's not a ship. 318 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: It's not the captain like waiter self explanatory. 319 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: But the captain d D is understanding. 320 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: That episode, I don't know what a captain is to me. 321 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: That was a very old person reference. 322 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: No, I thought it was great because he showed that 323 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: it wasn't an old person reference even though it's an 324 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 3: old reference. By being confused. 325 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: By it, I'm not criticizing the reference. I'm just saying 326 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: that it was a lot of people don't even know 327 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: that that exists anymore, and it did. 328 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: It was a thing. 329 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: And by the way, I guarantee there are a few 330 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: places still that have a captain. 331 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I think actually the Carlisle does. 332 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: By the way, you'd expect the captain there. Yeah, they're 333 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: not going to go captain list. 334 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: So after they finish all that, and they go back 335 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: to the jewelry store and there is Michael the Blind Guy. 336 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: I forgot that Michael the Blind Guy was in this 337 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: episode called the Blind Guy becomes a major character in 338 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: the ben still a season what was that, season three 339 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: or four, I don't remember, but he becomes a major 340 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: character and a major. 341 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: Storyline of the season. In a later season yep. 342 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: And by the way, the most wonderful guy. And he's 343 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: so and if I remember correctly, he wasn't blind. 344 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: No, he's not blind. 345 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: But by the way, I have no problem with that. Nowadays, 346 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: you would either cast a blind person or give a 347 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: blind person every opportunity to get the role. And you 348 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: know a lot of times you want to do that, 349 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: and they're not the best person. That being said, and 350 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 3: this is my big belief that you don't automatically cast 351 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: somebody because of something like that. But they should damn 352 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: well get all the opportunities they can. You make the 353 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: effort more than an effort. It's like a must to 354 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 3: be inclusive. But I am not of the one where 355 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: you have to hire the blind person. There you go, 356 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: because actors can play lots of things. And by the way, 357 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: I threw that out there because I know that half 358 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 3: of you are going to agree and half of you 359 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: are going to think I'm a moron. Well you're both right. 360 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: Those of you who agree with me great, and those 361 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: of you who think I'm a moron, I am a moron. 362 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: So both sides win. When it comes to me saying something, I. 363 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: Could attest to that, yes, And I love how Lewis says, 364 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: how could. 365 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: You say blind man in front of a blind man? 366 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 3: By the way, in my opinion, that's the funniest moment 367 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: of the show. It's Larius. He says blind man in 368 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 3: front of a blind man? And then what does Richard say? 369 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 3: What's the term? He says? Later someone who can't see? 370 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: He says something in Larry's which is the essentially of 371 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: saying blind man. 372 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: It was almost but I know what you're talking about. 373 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: And then Richard brings up a whole thing about recovering alcoholic. 374 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: I think Lewis's recovering alcoholic line should be a drinking game, 375 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: because in every episode practically he slips in that recovery. 376 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 3: I thought I would be a drinking game. Yeah, I 377 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: love that. My relations although I don't know I met 378 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 3: him in stand up. I don't know what his story 379 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 3: was then. But on curb the fact that I pretty 380 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: much only worked with the sober Richard Lewis and we 381 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 3: even go to. 382 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: Aam Me too, I did not really. I mean I 383 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: knew him a little bit. You know, he's legendary, he's 384 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: older than us, and he was already so you know, 385 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: he was amazing when we came up as congra. 386 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you the date, nineteen eighty nine. 387 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've only known him well sober as well. 388 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know him in his crazy days. 389 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 3: I did, but were friends. I know, we weren't friends. 390 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: Then we become close friends since the show. 391 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: Then Michael the blind guy gilts them into going to 392 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: his apartment to move his furniture, which I think that 393 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: premise is hilarious. 394 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 3: Right, and by the way, that scene is hilarious, hilarious 395 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: and again like the scene in the last episode of 396 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: getting Directions with that Lady, difficult scene. It's very difficult 397 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 3: to pull off these guys moving and moving and moving 398 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: his furniture until they can escape. It feels real. I'll 399 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 3: tell you what didn't feel real is Richard's hair when 400 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: he was done. 401 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: Because he was so sweaty and exhausted. 402 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 3: And you could have pulled that off with him being sweaty, 403 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: but he had the sweat of somebody who just it 404 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 3: just was too extreme. I don't know if he's ever 405 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 3: been sweaty like that. 406 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that whole scene I think is so funny. And 407 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: Larry referring to as a deceptive blind man. 408 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: Didn't mislead us, He didn't tell us the truth about 409 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: what we had to move. 410 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: He was a deceptive blind man, which he was. 411 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: He was very deceptive and very manipulative. 412 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 3: And that's also one of those scenes where you actually 413 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 3: feel bad for Richard and Larry. They don't come up 414 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 3: very often, don't come feel so bad. That was. But 415 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 3: I have to say, Larry did not know that he 416 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: was going to bring back the blind Man. You know 417 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 3: he does that, He doesn't right now. 418 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 2: He didn't know at that time. 419 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, but you know, those things kind of 420 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: trigger him. I mean, it's the things that inspire him 421 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: that he'll be writing the next season and then he'll 422 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: remember Michael the blind Man from season one or whatever, 423 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 1: and he's like, he reuses it, and you know, I mean, 424 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: I think a lot of characters and a lot of 425 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 1: actors inspire him. We have a scene like that this 426 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: season that I'm not going to mention what it is 427 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: of somebody from a previous season who inspired him to 428 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: come back. 429 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty brilliant. Actually, yeah, I think. 430 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: And then Richard says to him, is it true or 431 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 2: not that I have more? I don't know. 432 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: By the way, that's straight out of real life. 433 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: Totally. 434 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: That is so straight out of real life that he 435 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 3: would say that to Larry. And what would Larry's reaction be? 436 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 3: He'd burst out laughing. 437 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: First of yeah, I know, we'll be right back, stay tuned, Okay, 438 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: we're back. Who's real and who's not? Richard Lewis is 439 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: Richard Lewis, I'm Sussie. 440 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: This is a horrible thing to say. The only one of. 441 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: Us who's I know what you're gonna say. 442 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 3: But people don't understand Richard Lewis is more Richard Lewis 443 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 3: off camera. Like on camera he's a little pulled back, 444 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 3: but off camera he's I'll say ten times what he 445 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: is on the show. 446 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: But like episode two, it was Ted and Mary it 447 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: was Ted Dance. So and Cheryl's name is Cheryl, but 448 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: she's Cheryl Hines, not Cheryl David, and so there is 449 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: a confusion. I would just want people to understand that, 450 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: really we're all characters, even if Ted Danson is playing 451 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: Ted Danson and you know whoever, Larry David is playing 452 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: Larry David. 453 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: And by the way, I think it's quite the challenge 454 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: to play yourself, it really is that. 455 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: But I don't think any of them are playing themselves. 456 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: They're all playing a Carora Well version. 457 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 3: Of themselves that Larry creates. And we have more stories 458 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: about Ted Danson in that arena, if you will. 459 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: A lot coming up. 460 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 461 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 2: So, so none of us are who we We're all acting. 462 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: You especially are so far from that characters. The thing 463 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 3: that's sim between you and the SUSI and thing. You 464 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 3: won't do any silly stuff that I asked for. 465 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: Well, I don't suffer fools gladly, as you know. 466 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 3: But you really Larry plays along with me. Cheryl's my 467 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 3: number one play alonger, which people don't know, and you 468 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,239 Speaker 3: will not do any like I've had Larry go up 469 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: to extras and explain to all of them. How he 470 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: collects lotions from around the world, which I found hilarious. 471 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 3: You would never do that, you know that, Cheryl. We 472 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 3: were filming in a hospital and there was a lot 473 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 3: of doctor cock on fire. Yes, all right, well, but 474 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 3: it is true. So that's you're completely not that And 475 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 3: I am so not like the character at. 476 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: All, And neither is Larry in so many ways. 477 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 3: By the way, no, no, forget so many ways. He's 478 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: not like his character at all. But hold on, JB. 479 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: Nothing like nothing like Leon. You know what he'd love though. 480 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 3: He loves staying in character. After they yell cut and 481 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: I walk up to him and go, am I dealing 482 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 3: with JB? Or am I dealing with Leon right now? 483 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 3: And he keeps going and then he bursts out laughing 484 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 3: because he loves to continue it for whatever. 485 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: But the confusion I think is less for us because 486 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: you're playing Jeff Green and now plays his Green. Then 487 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 1: for the people Ted Danson, Richard Lewis, a million others 488 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: that John Ham, whoever it is that are have their 489 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: real name and their real profession, let's say, but they're 490 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: still acting. 491 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 2: It's still not their character. 492 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: Shure Lewis is even acting, but like I said, he's 493 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 3: the only one that is. 494 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: His character similar to his character, very similar, right, But 495 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: even so it's not him. 496 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: No, No, he's acting, you know, right. He buys into 497 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: whatever story Larry right, right, And I appreciate that. 498 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: And I wanted a Claire for that because people that 499 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: we're working with here ask that question they were confused. 500 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: So it doesn't confuse us because we're in it, we know, 501 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: but it's nice to get another perspective, all right. 502 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 2: So Lewis has more serenity than Larry. 503 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: And then Larry's again watching the football game and again 504 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: screaming and yelling at the TV, which I'm sure he 505 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: really does, and he figures out that he lost his 506 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: credit card and he's got to go back to the 507 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: restaurant to get it. But in the interim he got 508 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: Cheryl Roses and they're all made up and that worked, 509 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: so he doesn't feel as though he needs to get 510 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: the bracelet any longer. 511 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 3: What was the scene where Larry answers the phone and 512 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 3: he hands it to the guy in the street and says, 513 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 3: if it's a man, give me the phone. If it's 514 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 3: a woman, he's calling, He's I know he's calling Richard Lewis. 515 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: Initially, but yeah, that was much earlier. And Bob Whitey, 516 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: who directed the episode, is playing the man. 517 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 3: Even though I made fun of him all the time 518 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 3: for that performance, he was really good. 519 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 2: He was very good. 520 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 3: Confusion, I thought he was great. 521 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: So there he was very good. 522 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 3: Let's go back in the future. 523 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: So he's got Cheryl the roses, he doesn't need to 524 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: go spend money on a bracelet. 525 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: She accepted the roses. They were all made up. 526 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: Lewis then says, can I buy that bracelet for my girlfriend? 527 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: And Larry's like sure. But of course right after that, 528 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: Cheryl comes in and says. 529 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: I think I really do want that bracelet. 530 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: And he says, but we already made up. So I 531 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: told Louis that his girlfriend could have the bracelet, and 532 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: of course Cheryl's not happy about that at all. So 533 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: Larry cleans himself up. He's in a tie in a 534 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: button down shirt, he shaves, and he goes to the 535 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: restaurant to pick up the credit card. And who's playing 536 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: the hostess but Laura fair Child at the time. Now Striker, 537 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 1: who was then Larry's assistant is now one of our 538 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: executive producers and is a great producer and writer. 539 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: And she looks absolutely gorgeous. 540 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 3: She still looks bad, she still looks so beautiful. 541 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: She's a beautiful person inside and out. 542 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: She really is though. 543 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: And also her acting was terrific. 544 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, she did great. By the way to the show 545 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: is just be a person. Don't put a spin on it. 546 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 3: Be a person. You know. 547 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: I've never been in the casting process with you guys, 548 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: but I would imagine you must see people come in 549 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: who put on such a show. 550 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 3: Okay, so there's two things. Now, we do it everybody 551 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: home tapes. 552 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: We don't do it pandemic. 553 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 3: Yes, they just give their real you know. Most of 554 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 3: the time. The weird, weird, weird thing about the audition 555 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: process is people come into audition, but they're acting with 556 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 3: the people they'd be doing it Larry, myself, Cheryl, Larry 557 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 3: and I Cheryl and Larry, you know, and so it 558 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 3: throws them. I go out and prepare them for that. 559 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 3: I introduce myself. This is why I love doing it 560 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 3: in person. So that being said, if you come in 561 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 3: and put a spin on anything, try and make it funny, 562 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 3: you're not going to be hired. Bill. 563 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 2: It's true. 564 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: Let me also say about that, for many many seasons, 565 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: Larry would never allow the guest stars to see the outlines. 566 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: Because he means, no, I don't pay attention. 567 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: Yes he does now. But starting last season I think 568 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: was the first season he ever. 569 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: When you think about it was a season twelve or 570 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 3: what was it. 571 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, season thirty, the season eleven, I think, And the 572 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: reason for that. 573 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 3: Years people were just coming in cold. 574 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: Right, And the reason for that was he didn't want 575 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: them preparing lines and stuff ahead of time. 576 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 3: See, I think if you give people the sides and 577 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 3: they know the show's improvise, they will come up with jokes, 578 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 3: whereas if they're standing there and they know nothing except 579 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 3: what Jeff Shaefer explains is going to happen. Which, by 580 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: the way, I don't read the outlines. I read the 581 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: outlines when they're first written. So before we start the season, 582 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 3: I've read every episode and then I basically blank out. 583 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 3: And when I get to set, I say to Jeff Schaeffer, 584 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 3: all right, what happens in this scene? Because I know 585 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 3: I'm not preparing anything. 586 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: But but you know what, Jeff, I like to know 587 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: because I like to gauge my performance. If somebody's yelling 588 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: and screaming at him, in the scene before. I like 589 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: to know what that. 590 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 3: You never got the sides before? 591 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 2: No, I always got them. 592 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what are you talking. 593 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I like to know what's the through 594 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: line of the episode, so that I could know. Okay, 595 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: somebody screaming and yelling at him the scene before, then 596 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: maybe I'm. 597 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: Going to be a little lower, Okay, but you know 598 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: what I mean. 599 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 3: The people aren't getting the full outline. They're just getting 600 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 3: their scene outline. If I'm not mistaken. 601 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 2: They don't even get that. 602 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: Usually now they do, but in the past they would 603 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: just show up on set and they would be told 604 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: what the scene is about. They did not see anything 605 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: written for years. 606 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: By the way, but in my eyes, an improvised show 607 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: or an improvise movie, you don't let anybody read the outline. 608 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 3: You tell them on the need to know basis. But 609 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 3: now they're so dense the outlines that I think people 610 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 3: have complicated. 611 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, for many, many seasons, the only people that the 612 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 1: outlines were you and me and Larry. Obviously, Cheryl was 613 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: allowed to read the outlines, but she didn't want to, 614 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: and Richard for a long time was dying to read 615 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: the outlines and Larry wouldn't let them. 616 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: Because even without the outlines, he were on a million jokes. 617 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's his thing. So then Larry goes to buy Cheryl. 618 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: For those of you here water in the background, they 619 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: should know we're not being we're pouring ourselves. 620 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: Water, not being. 621 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: Larry dresses up like a mench and he goes and 622 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: he's going to get there really really early to get 623 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: the bracelet a shark because he's got to beat Lewis. 624 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: There's many many things throughout the seasons where he's beating 625 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: Lewis at something, you know, getting to a restaurant early, whatever. 626 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: But first he has to stop at the restaurant where 627 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: he did not tip the captain in order to get 628 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: his credit card that he left there. And of course 629 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: the captain is there and Laura is playing. 630 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: The mat the captain parked about. 631 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: To say that, okay, yeah, the captain blocks Larry's car, 632 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: parks and in front of him and blocks Larry's car in, 633 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: and the captain then refuses to move his car because 634 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: Larry didn't tip him. It's the most petty, mean gesture 635 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: I think of the captain. 636 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: Oh can I tell you something you don't want to 637 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: fuck with a captain. 638 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 1: Just don't who knew the power of the captain, They 639 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: don't have senses of him. And Larry then has to 640 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: literally run to the jewelry shore, which of course makes 641 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: no sense in la because they wouldn't be even near 642 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: each other, but whatever, and Lewis is going to the 643 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: jewelry shore to get the bracelet, and the two of 644 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: them end up having a knockdown fight in the vestibule. 645 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: That they do, which is hilarious. 646 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: Which is hilarious, And that's the end of the episode. 647 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that feels good. That felt good. Did you 648 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 3: enjoy yourself? 649 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 2: Yes, I did, and very very much so. 650 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: Well, that's and I feel like this was an episode 651 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: that established the which is a theme for twelve seasons 652 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: as well, the Larry Lewis dynamic. I mean, last the 653 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: be there at sundown, you know in episodis one had 654 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: that thing, but this you get the more sense of 655 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: their friendship in this one, and they go on to 656 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: lunch and you know all of that. 657 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: And that is the complexity of a friendship when it's 658 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 3: real is that there's so many ups and downs, so 659 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: many arguments. I say that because right now, an old 660 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 3: friend of mine and we're not doing too well, and 661 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: you think we should make up. I know I will. 662 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 3: I've already forgiven. 663 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: Now I'm just gonna is this who I think it is? 664 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 3: Well? Who else is there? I don't know. 665 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: You've told me about two or three. 666 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 3: I told you one that's not a friend, okay, but 667 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 3: you know who it is. I want our listeners to guess. 668 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 3: Please write us. 669 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: I don't know do they get a prize? 670 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 3: Too much information? But listen. Thank you so very much 671 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 3: for listening to us. It is an honor that you're 672 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 3: taking time out of your day to listen. I know 673 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: a lot of you are listening in the car and 674 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 3: it makes your journey better. There you go. How exciting 675 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: is that for us? 676 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: And don't forget to tip your captain? 677 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, you ever come in contact with the captain? 678 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: Did the right thing because they have power? Baby? 679 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 680 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: Bye. The History of carb Your Enthusiasm is a production 681 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: of iHeart Radio. 682 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 683 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or 684 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: Wherever you listen to your favorite shows.