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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone Welcome The Mother Knows Death. Happy New Year. Let's

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Speaker 1: get into the story of the week.

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Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, we talked about the one year

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Speaker 2: anniversary of the Idaho murders. For those of you that

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Speaker 2: are unfamiliar, this is a really disturbing case where four

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Speaker 2: college students from the University of Idaho were found stabbed

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Speaker 2: to death and they're off campus housing. So unfortunately the

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Speaker 2: house that they were murdered in has now been demolished.

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Speaker 2: Both sides, the prosecution and defense, were not really going

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Speaker 2: against this action because they didn't see the point of

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Speaker 2: keeping the house together. They said that the state of

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Speaker 2: the house was so different from when the murders occurred

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Speaker 2: that the jurors would not have been allowed in there anyway.

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of weird. I wonder how this is

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Speaker 2: going to pan out and if there was any evidence

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Speaker 2: possibly in the house that they're now going to miss

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Speaker 2: because the house is no longer there before this trial starts.

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Speaker 2: So what are your thoughts on this?

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Speaker 1: I think that I mean, I kind of understand why

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Speaker 1: off campus house. All of the students still live around

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Speaker 1: there and kind of walk by it all the time,

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Speaker 1: and obviously it's it's almost a morbid tourist attraction at

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Speaker 1: The students walk by it and are triggered by the

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Speaker 1: horrific things that happen there, and that's why the owner

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Speaker 1: of the house actually donated the house to the school,

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Speaker 1: and the school decided they wanted to get rid of it.

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Speaker 1: Apparently the prosecution and the defense are cool with like

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Speaker 1: the fact that they got it enough evidence, But I

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent understand the family against this because this

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Speaker 1: guy hasn't been convicted yet, and he also is a

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Speaker 1: criminology student, so who knows. Like we always say that

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Speaker 1: we think that this dude's got something up his sleeve

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Speaker 1: as far as the trial going and getting out of

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Speaker 1: this somehow. So I think right now, it's the worst

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Speaker 1: nightmare of any parent to know that your child was murdered,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that it's not closed yet, that this

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Speaker 1: fighting for it too. And unfortunately they didn't win the fight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're saying that they plan to demolish the

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Speaker 2: house in the summertime. But Brian Koberger, who is the

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Speaker 2: arrested suspect currently in this case, his defense attorneys had

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Speaker 2: wanted ample time to go through it and collect any

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Speaker 2: evidence they needed for their case. So as recently as

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Speaker 2: a few days before demolition, they were in there collecting

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Speaker 2: evidence and going through it. I think the biggest thing

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Speaker 2: for the parents is they understand that the house might

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Speaker 2: look different, but they wanted to keep it intact to

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Speaker 2: see if they could prove if the roommates that were

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Speaker 2: And I feel like as a juror, it would be

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Speaker 2: were happening, what was in earshot. I do think that

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Speaker 2: the university's planning to build a memorial garden on the site.

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Speaker 2: So it is nice that they are going to repurpose

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Speaker 2: it and honor the victims, but I just wonder what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this case has especially been on my mind this

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Speaker 1: week because Brian Coberger was caught, I guess caught by

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Speaker 1: I was just freaked out by his appearance, like there's

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Speaker 1: into this case because it's so scary how it all

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Speaker 1: get into the celebrity news of the week.

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Speaker 2: This first celebrity story is really unfortunate, so Aaron Carter's sister,

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Speaker 2: She was found unresponsive in her bathroom, just like Aaron

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Speaker 2: There's still confirmation on that, but she had issues with

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's important to say, like, who the

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Speaker 1: I think it's important to talk about who they are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I feel like they're always in the press

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Speaker 1: He was the one that started out right, like he's

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Speaker 2: I believe so. And then all the other siblings have

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Speaker 2: So her and Nick are the only surviving siblings out

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Speaker 2: and it's really unfortunate to see that the two of

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Speaker 2: I believe their mother was in the news for an

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they I'm not sure if they said

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So she was found unresponsive in the bathtub. So

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Speaker 2: that's why it was really similar to Aaron. But we're

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Speaker 1: All right, So we're going to talk about another case

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Speaker 1: that's super scary. There is a football player. His name

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Speaker 1: and it kind of obviously like freaks people out when

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Speaker 1: infection that was secondary to him having a dental procedure.

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Speaker 2: That's so strange. So can you explain exactly how it

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Speaker 2: led from the dental infection to the brain and how

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Speaker 1: So it's it's interesting because I just had this come

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Speaker 1: that could cause an infection. And then so you could

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I feel like there's always these horror stories.

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Speaker 2: And you know, growing up, I had a lot of

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Speaker 2: dental issues as a young child, and they always were like,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't see how my gums are

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Speaker 1: No, it's serious. It's your Your dental care is one

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Speaker 1: It's really crazy. It seems silly, but it's not because

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Speaker 1: say that he also had maybe some cardiovascular disease that

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Speaker 1: hypertension or high blood pressure is more common in African

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Speaker 1: the main thing is that if he and and like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to characterize him as just being a dude,

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Speaker 1: but just having a lot of men, especially my dad

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Speaker 1: and you know, maybe he had a toothache and he

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Speaker 1: you don't want to pay for the dentists. Some people

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Speaker 2: I think we can agree. I have a little bit

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Speaker 2: of white coat syndrome when I go to the doctor,

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Speaker 2: but the dentist is just not one of them. I

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Speaker 2: can't explain it. It's one of them because.

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Speaker 1: You, I'm just so cool because you've always gone to

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Speaker 1: a good dentist, Like if you go if you go

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Speaker 1: to a shitty dentist that hurts you and doesn't do

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Speaker 1: money or whatever. Like you you have. There's people that

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Speaker 1: have to be take like xanax and stuff to get

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because I have such such a bad

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Speaker 2: needle phobia, but even when I know I have to

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Speaker 2: get the novacne to get something done, doctor don he

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Speaker 2: car window, wrapped itself around the drive shaft around her

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Speaker 2: feet and cut her feet off, and then she had

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Speaker 2: to go to the hospital and doctors were able to

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Speaker 2: reattach her feet.

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Speaker 1: Which can you even believe that the whole story is

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Speaker 1: crazy because the dad was I think when we covered

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Speaker 1: it the first time, because how old is she? She

442
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Speaker 1: was seven? She was six and now she's yeah, so

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Speaker 1: we're like, I remember us saying, well, why was the

444
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Speaker 1: six year old in the front seat of a car? Anyway, Like,

445
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Speaker 1: there's multiple things that went wrong in this case, for sure,

446
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Speaker 1: But the dad was driving the car and he said

447
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Speaker 1: that the girl said, like, Daddy, I'm bleeding, and he

448
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Speaker 1: looked down and saw that her feet were literally amputated

449
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Speaker 1: on the floor and drove her right to a local hospital.

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Speaker 1: They were just so happened to be pretty close to

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Speaker 1: a hospital, but yeah, absolutely amazing that they were able

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Speaker 1: to reattach her feet.

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Speaker 2: So after a thirty five day hospital, say, six surgeries

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Speaker 2: and a month a month of physical therapy, this sweet

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Speaker 2: angel was able to perform as one of Mother Ginger's

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Speaker 2: kids and the Nutcracker with her sister.

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Speaker 1: Is that just so cute? I love hearing like stories

458
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Speaker 1: that turn out well, Yeah, so I because God. And

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Speaker 1: it's great when accidents like this happened to children, just

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Speaker 1: because they are able to recover so much faster. Could

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Speaker 1: you imagine if something like that happened to one of us,

462
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Speaker 1: we would be like still crying in the hospital bed, right,

463
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Speaker 1: and this kid just oh yeah, I love kid's resiliency

464
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: is so great.

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Speaker 2: No, it's cool. And she was able to practice her

466
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Speaker 2: performance in a wheelchair and then she performed it the

467
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Speaker 2: night of with a walker, so she kind of was

468
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Speaker 2: able to do it a little better than night of.

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Speaker 2: And it's awesome to see that she was able to

470
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Speaker 2: do something really fun and not let this all to

471
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Speaker 2: her life forever. So this is definitely the one of

472
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Speaker 2: the sweeter updates from a horrific.

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Speaker 1: Stru because we sometimes we have good updates.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So onto this next one where this influencer, orthodonist

475
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Speaker 2: and influencer doctor Kara Hodson was on a trip to

476
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Speaker 2: Thailand when she was accidentally electrocuted by power lines, ended

477
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Speaker 2: up blacking out, and was rushed to the emergency room,

478
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Speaker 2: where she was for ten days.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting about this is that she really wasn't electrocuted,

480
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Speaker 1: because when you're electrocuted, you're killed. So she had an

481
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Speaker 1: electric shock. I don't know how she had access to

482
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Speaker 1: power lines. I mean sometimes we'll be walking around the

483
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Speaker 1: neighborhood and stuff and i see a power line on

484
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Speaker 1: the ground that I'm just like so scared. I'm like,

485
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Speaker 1: don't go anywhere near that. But I mean maybe she

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Speaker 1: walked over it. A lot of times. It's just like

487
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Speaker 1: laying in a puddle and you walk through a puddle

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Speaker 1: on the other end and water kinducts electricity. So it

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Speaker 1: sounds like she got a nasty shock though. And it's

490
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Speaker 1: always really scary to be in another country and have

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Speaker 1: something horrific happen to you that you need to go

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Speaker 1: to a hospital just because you don't know what their

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Speaker 1: medical system's like or how you're going to pay for

494
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Speaker 1: it because healthcare isn't free in all countries. It's just

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Speaker 1: really it's just really scary situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I think just in general, going to a

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Speaker 2: hospital in a different country is a scary experience because

498
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Speaker 2: you don't know what they do over there. So she

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Speaker 2: said she's lucky to be here today and it was

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Speaker 2: the worst ten days of her life, so she seems

501
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Speaker 2: to be recovering.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so scary.

503
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Speaker 2: But our last freak accident is something truly horrible. So

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Speaker 2: these parents were taking their six month old baby to

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Speaker 2: a local hospital because they believed the baby was having

506
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Speaker 2: breathing difficulties, and while they were driving, an suv blew

507
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Speaker 2: a red light smacked into their car. The people that

508
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: hit them got out of the car fled the scene,

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Speaker 2: so they have no idea who did it. Right now,

510
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: as of recording this, there was still nobody arrested for it.

511
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Speaker 2: But the parents ended up getting out with minor injuries,

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Speaker 2: but the six month old baby ended up dying, So

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Speaker 2: it's unclear if the child died as a result of

514
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Speaker 2: whatever issue that they were taking the baby to the

515
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Speaker 2: hospital for, or if the accident kind of just finished it.

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Speaker 2: So it's really sad to hear this.

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Speaker 1: So they they'll do the autopsy, and I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is the unfortunate thing with stories like this, we're probably

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Speaker 1: never we might just because there's a person hasn't been

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Speaker 1: caught yet, and maybe they'll update us with that and

521
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Speaker 1: then give us an update about what happened with the autopsy,

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Speaker 1: but they'll be able to tell if it was because

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Speaker 1: of blunt trauma from the accident or if it was

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Speaker 1: because of some kind of I mean a lot is

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Speaker 1: going around respiratory wise, a RSV virus, COVID of course,

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Speaker 1: and the flu. There's like all, there's a lot of

527
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Speaker 1: pediatric flu cases now, and so yeah, it could I mean,

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Speaker 1: if the baby was like that bad and not breathing

529
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Speaker 1: that bad, it could have just been coincidental. However, you

530
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Speaker 1: never know. And it's I mean, think about getting t

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Speaker 1: boned by a car or just getting slammed by a car,

532
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Speaker 1: and how bad that hurts for an adult, let alone

533
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Speaker 1: a six month old little baby. That's what thirty pounds,

534
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Speaker 1: you know or not even maybe I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: It's just it sucks so bad, and it must suck

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Speaker 1: for the parents to have survived something like that, And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just can't even imagine what some people go through.

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Speaker 1: It's horrible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's really gross that they just left the

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Speaker 2: scene without people do.

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Speaker 1: That all the time. It's it's very weird, Like you're

542
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Speaker 1: going to get caught, trust me, Like your car is

543
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: going to be messed up. They're going to be able

544
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Speaker 1: to there's a video everywhere, Like why would you ever

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Speaker 1: think that you're getting away with anything? There are our

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Speaker 1: A little bit later actually under violent crime that I

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's start with violent crime.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is a groundbreaking story. So Gypsy Rose Blanchard

568
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Speaker 2: has been released from prison. Are you familiar with her case?

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Speaker 2: I know I've subtly mentioned it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I've heard you talk about it all the time,

571
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Speaker 1: but I'm not as you tell the story because you

572
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Speaker 1: know it so well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So this is the most famous case of Munchausen

574
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Speaker 2: bi proxy. Munchausen bi proxy is a psychological condition that

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Speaker 2: causes a caregiver to basically fake illness in another. So

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Speaker 2: we often see this with parents and children or people

577
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: taking care of elderly patients, where they'll exaggerate the symptoms

578
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Speaker 2: of another.

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Speaker 1: Get sympathy from people, right to get sympathy. So wait

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Speaker 1: before we get started. So Munchausen is when you try

581
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Speaker 1: to do it for.

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Speaker 2: Yourself for yourself yeah. And then Munchausen by proxy's when

583
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Speaker 2: you're faking illness in another.

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Speaker 1: Usually like a kid, you're saying yeah.

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Speaker 2: So this is the most exaggerated and famous case of this.

586
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Speaker 2: So starting as an infant, this woman Dedi had her

587
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Speaker 2: child whose named Gypsy Rose, and as an infant, Dedi

588
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Speaker 2: insisted that the child was experiencing sleep apnea. So this

589
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: was kind of the first time we have recorded to

590
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Speaker 2: know of these fake symptoms. So as Gypsy grew into

591
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Speaker 2: an older child, her mother stated that she had seizures, asthma,

592
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Speaker 2: hearing and visual issues and would bounce around to different doctors.

593
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Speaker 2: It's called doctor shopping or medical shopping, so nobody could

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Speaker 2: kind of be on her case. She was getting prescribed

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Speaker 2: all these medications she didn't need. It even got to

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Speaker 2: the point where she was getting surgery. She didn't need

597
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Speaker 2: to have, absolutely crazy. So then when gypsy Ros was

598
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Speaker 2: eight years old, her mother falsely diagnosed her with leukemia

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Speaker 2: and muscular dystrophe. So because of that, she had her

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Speaker 2: in a wheelchair and had a feeding tube, had her

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Speaker 2: put on a feeding tube. So this poor girl has

602
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Speaker 2: absolutely nothing wrong.

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Speaker 1: Whit wait wait wait, so this is this is where

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Speaker 1: I get lost on the story. If she doesn't really

605
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Speaker 1: have that shit, who's giving her a feeding tube? Like

606
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Speaker 1: you can't just go to the doctor and be like, yo,

607
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Speaker 1: I want a feeding tube right.

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Speaker 2: Like exactly, so saying that the mother bounced around. So

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Speaker 2: they had moved to Missouri a couple when Gypsy was

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Speaker 2: in like Lilian's age, like eleven or twelve, and she

611
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Speaker 2: had said that all of her medical records have been

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Speaker 2: destroyed and Hurricane Katrina, so they had to go based

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Speaker 2: off of what they said. But why weren't these doctors

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Speaker 2: doing their due diligence and calling the others?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't oft matter though, Like let's say you have

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Speaker 1: a person off the street and there's no other way

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Speaker 1: that you can call it, because that happens. Sometimes you

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Speaker 1: have people that come over here from other countries and stuff.

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Speaker 1: You don't have access to their medical records. But like

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Speaker 1: there's things called blood work and imaging, And I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess if she was start was she like starving

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Speaker 1: the kid and everything, because her blood work would be

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Speaker 1: off for sure, and if she was malnourished, I just

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Speaker 1: don't see what blood work. If she got blood work,

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Speaker 1: you can't fake leukemia. You just can't fake it.

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Speaker 2: So that, yeah, that's where it's all over the place.

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Speaker 2: And I don't even know. I necessarily she was telling

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Speaker 2: the doctors she had leukemia, but that's what she was

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Speaker 2: telling everybody else. And when they moved to Missouri, they

630
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Speaker 2: had Habitat for Humanity build them a house, so there

631
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Speaker 2: was like all this fraud going on. Besides that, they

632
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Speaker 2: got free trips to Disney World, they got all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: So the older Gypsy Rose gets, the more advanced it gets.

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Speaker 2: She shaves her head. She there's this claim that all

635
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Speaker 2: this medication was rotting her teeth out so badly that

636
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Speaker 2: she had to get a bunch of teeth pulled. So

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Speaker 2: it's really unfortunate. And then all the neighbors thought this,

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Speaker 2: and so at the same time, the mother is lying

639
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Speaker 2: about the age. So when Gypsy Rose is fifteen years old,

640
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Speaker 2: she met a man at some science fiction convention I

641
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Speaker 2: guess they went to and ran away with him, and

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Speaker 2: the mother was like, you're a minor, got her out

643
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Speaker 2: of the situation, telling her she was fifteen, but she

644
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Speaker 2: was really nineteen years old. So this girl doesn't even

645
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Speaker 2: know how old she is. So time goes on and

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Speaker 2: Gypsy's starting to get hip to it and testing the waters.

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Speaker 2: She gets out of the wheelchair and is like, I

648
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Speaker 2: can walk perfectly, Like I don't even understand why I'm

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Speaker 2: in this wheelchair. So she starts getting hip to it,

650
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: and she meets this guy named Nicholas go to John online,

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Speaker 2: and the two of them form a relationship. So this

652
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: relationship goes on for a few years and eventually they

653
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: agree they're going to kill her mother.

654
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: Okay, and I don't think anything wrong with that. Okay,

655
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: let's just like, let's put this out there.

656
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: So in October of twenty twelve they start their relationship,

657
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: and then in June of twenty fifteen, he comes Nicholas

658
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: go to John lives in Wisconsin, comes to Missouri where

659
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: Gypsy's living, waits until he gets a call that the

660
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: mother has gone to sleep, comes in the house, Gypsy

661
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: gives him a knife and gloves, and he stabs the

662
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: mother to death seventeen times. So Gypsy didn't actually kill her.

663
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: The guy did, but she was there and assisted with it.

664
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: And then after that they had sex in her bed,

665
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: and then they posted on Facebook three days later, so

666
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: Gypsy and Deedie shared a Facebook page, and Gypsy and

667
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: Nicholas post on the page the bitch is dead. I

668
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 2: fucking slashed that fat pig and raped her sweet innocent daughter.

669
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: Her scream was so fucking loud. Lol. That's the Facebook post.

670
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: So all these people that think this is a handicapped

671
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: teenager are like, what the heck is going on? And

672
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 2: then they go in the house and find the mother dead.

673
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: Now why they find Gypsy Rose late? Why didn't Gypsy

674
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: Rose and the boyfriend?

675
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I get like wanting to kill somebody for

676
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: doing something like that to you, but like you should

677
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: probably try to go through the proper channels first before

678
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: you do something that drastic. Because if Andy did, she did,

679
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: they did. They try to like handle this through the police,

680
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: and they were ignored.

681
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: Like what, I don't think Gypsy ever did. There's allegedly

682
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: a note from twenty eleven that one of her doctors

683
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: had noted they thought that she was a victim of

684
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: Munchausen by proxy, but nothing was done about it. She

685
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: had confided in one of the neighbors that she thought

686
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: she was being abused, but those people didn't do anything.

687
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: About it. So I think it was a case where

688
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: she started getting feelers like is anybody gonna help me?

689
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: And then nobody was helping her, so she just took

690
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: it to absolute drastic measures, and God knows the emotional

691
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: brain damage she had from going through this her entire life.

692
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: So the boyfriend, the boyfriend was the one that killed

693
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: the mom, so he's in jail down, I'm assuming.

694
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what ended up happening was they both after

695
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: the murder. They had gone back to the guy's house

696
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin where they made the Facebook post. They quickly

697
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: found them there because dog could see like ip address

698
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 2: and everything. So they're both arrested. Gypsy ended up pleading

699
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 2: guilty to second degree murder and was sentenced to ten years.

700
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: The boyfriend was sentenced to life in prison. So why

701
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 2: this story is relevant now is because she had served

702
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: eighty five percent of her sentence and was finally granted parole,

703
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: so she is now a free woman. The boyfriend's in

704
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: jail for the rest of his life. She had said

705
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: in a twenty twenty interview that she felt freer in

706
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: prison than she did under her mother, which is like

707
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: so horrible. And now she's married to that guy. No,

708
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: she's got to a different guy. I wrote her letters.

709
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: Yes, So here's my question why I understand that the

710
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: boyfriend's in jail, because like, even though you were trying

711
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: to protect your girlfriend, like, you can't just kill somebody. Okay,

712
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: that's understandable, But I don't understand why I thought, like,

713
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: if you were a child that was a victim of abuse,

714
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: that there was some kind of like leniency for killing

715
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: the person that was abusing you, and she didn't even

716
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: do it.

717
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: I think I think her leniency was the lesser sentence

718
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of people includ myself that I

719
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: don't think she deserved to go to jail.

720
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: I don't either.

721
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: I think she should have been put in a treatment

722
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: facility to overcome her twenty years of trauma and try

723
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: to work through that. But instead she was put in jail.

724
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: And now she's kind of this like pseudo celebrity. I mean,

725
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: we're talking about her, but there's a six part Lifetime

726
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: special coming out about her starting tonight that's gonna be

727
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: absolutely insane where she tells her whole side.

728
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: Oh it's like a documentary style, Yeah, actually.

729
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 2: Her whole side of the story and how she got

730
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: married and met that guy and everything. So I'm really

731
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 2: fascinated to see this. I really hope we don't see

732
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 2: her come back up in the press for something else

733
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: negative in the next couple of years.

734
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't like that, Like, it's not like you just

735
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: you abuse a kid their whole life. I mean, that's

736
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: that's like serious abuse. And then she dot like, if

737
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: it was a normal situation, the child, the girl probably

738
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: not would have killed her mother, you know what I mean, Like,

739
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: it's just so.

740
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: Ridiculous, absolutely, And that's why I feel, and I feel

741
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: so many people are on the same page where they're like,

742
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 2: I don't even think she should have been in jail.

743
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: I think we can all agree the way it was

744
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: handled was not the right way, and we shouldn't be

745
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: murdering anybody. But there's something to say about being a

746
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 2: victim for so long, there's only so much you could handle,

747
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: and then one day you finally realize it and you

748
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: start reaching out to people for help and nobody's helping you,

749
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: and then you find the one person willing to help you.

750
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 2: And she didn't even know that the guy was gonna

751
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: fully go through with it and kill her, and then

752
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 2: he did, and that's kind of on him for helping,

753
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: but I feel bad for her in the end. Yeah, totally,

754
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: all right, So it's kind of nice to see that

755
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: now she's thirty two, she's getting freedom. She could go

756
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: on possibly to live as normal of a life as

757
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: somebody in her situation can.

758
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: All right, let's lighten things up with the the pastor

759
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: in North Carolina that tried to put his wife's coworker's

760
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: head in the fryer at McDonald's.

761
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 2: So, this woman was training to be a manager at

762
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: a McDonald's where she said the employees were quote disrespecting her,

763
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: so they had she called her husband to come in

764
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: and help her with the situation. He comes in, punches

765
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: the guy a bunch of times, and then tries to

766
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: stick his head in the deep friar at the McDonald's restaurant.

767
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: And this is what I was saying. Like, So in

768
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: the article, it says that the cops were looking at

769
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: the surveillance video, and I'm like, could you just imagine

770
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: some of the videos that these that police officers and

771
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: investigators have to look at, And this one is like, oh, yeah,

772
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: he did try to stick his head in a hot,

773
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: oil deep fryer, which would have been insane actually to

774
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: get as an autopsy, Like the person would have been

775
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: deep fried like some chicken nuggets or something. It's just

776
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: so crazy.

777
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: Let's just be thankful I didn't get to that point

778
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: because I don't even want to visualize what a person

779
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: with a deep friedhad look.

780
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: See, this is all I do. Like every time I

781
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: hear about these injuries or potential injuries, I'm just like,

782
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: oh wow, like what would that look like?

783
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: It would look like.

784
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: Pork rinds or something on the outside. It just would

785
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: be crazy looking, all right. This So when we went

786
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: to Key Wes to a coup this week, we stopped

787
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: in Miami for the night and we were at a

788
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: hotel and Lillian had a box of M and m's

789
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: and she was on the patio of our hotel or

790
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: the balcony, and she says, can I throw these over

791
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: the edge and see what happens? We were on like

792
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: the twelfth floor or something I don't know, And I

793
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: was like, no, you can't do that. What if you

794
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: hit somebody down there? And she's just like it's an

795
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: eminem well her, and I was just like, nah, dude,

796
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: that's not cool. You don't do that. And here I

797
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: that's why I'm kind of giggling because the story came

798
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: up that there was an eleven year old and a

799
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: twelve year old that were on the thirty second floor

800
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: of a hotel at Times Square and we're throwing bottles

801
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: over the edge and the bottle hit a woman in

802
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: the face and gave her like a laceration on her

803
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: face or like an incisional wound from the from the

804
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: broken glass. But I I just asked, Gabe. I was like, you, like,

805
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: do kids like not know that that that would be

806
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: really bad? Or because the reason I'm asking is because

807
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: the eleven year old didn't get in trouble because of

808
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 1: her age, but the twelve year old got arrested, And.

809
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was so ridiculous. And I'm also like, so

810
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: this At first I thought it meant like water bottles,

811
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: which obviously could really hurt somebody if they're full, But no,

812
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: it was glass bottle. So what kind of glass bottles?

813
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 2: Was it a whiskey bottle full that that's pretty considerably heavy,

814
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: or was it an empty soda bottle? Like where are

815
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: they getting these glass that is true?

816
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: Like in a hotel? Well, like the mini fridge.

817
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, were they like the little airport?

818
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like all their parents' dime. Like, you know,

819
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: this hotel we just went to, the kids opened up

820
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: because the first hotel we went to had like popcorn

821
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: and it was free, right, So the kids were like, oh,

822
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 1: the second hotel we go to, they opened this cabinet

823
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: and there's like all these mini bottles of like fuck

824
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: and you know, all this stuff. And we were like,

825
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: don't touch any of that stuff because it's like fifty

826
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: dollars for a box of candy or something, right, And

827
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: what were these kids like emptying out like all of

828
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: these mini like I don't know. The parents weren't in

829
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: the room, and they were emptying out hundreds of dollars

830
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: of many alcohol bottles and like throwing them over the

831
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: edge or something. I don't know.

832
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, are you more pissed that your kid's throwing

833
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 2: the bottle over the balcony or that you just got

834
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 2: charged thirty seven dollars for an airport bottle of Tito's

835
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: out of there?

836
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, But I mean it's it's not funny

837
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: though at all. It's it's it's no, it's I just

838
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: am trying to figure out like does a kid, I mean,

839
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: Lilian was trying to throw eminem's and clearly like an

840
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: eminem isn't going to do the same damage as a

841
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: vodka bottle, right, But like what do they really understand that? Like,

842
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: because I could see being a kid being like, oh,

843
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: that would be really cool if it hit the ground,

844
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: and just not thinking like, well, what if it happens

845
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: to hit someone in the face. They unless they're just

846
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: like you know, dexter kids or something that that are

847
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: assholes and that they were trying to hurt somebody. But

848
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, It's just that age is still their

849
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: brains are still a little iffy.

850
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, I've always been afraid of things

851
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: falling from the sky in the city, and because I

852
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: saw this episode of this show broad City where this

853
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: girl was just like walking down the street going to

854
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 2: a job interview and a little drip from a window

855
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: air conditioning unit dropped right in her eye and she got.

856
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: Disinfection disease and like died.

857
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. They yeah, basically like they they dramatized it for

858
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 2: the show, so her like half of her eyeball, her

859
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: face was green from it. But ever since that of like,

860
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: just the smallest thing could hit you and change everything.

861
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: It's true, all right.

862
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: So this next story, I didn't know what category to

863
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: put it in because technically it's probably an accident, but

864
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: because the mom is such like a negligent asshole idiot,

865
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. A kid died,

866
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: So do you want to do you want to tell

867
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: them a little bit about what happened?

868
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? This woman, this woman was with her two children

869
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: and they were trying to catch a bus. So she

870
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: told her kids there was a train sitting idol on

871
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: train tracks. So she tells her kids to hurry up

872
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 2: and run under the train so they can make their bus.

873
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: So the first kid goes under and doesn't have an issue,

874
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: and the second kid gets under it, and then the

875
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 2: train starts moving and is killed. And the first kid

876
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 2: ended up being wildly injured from it. But a child

877
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: is dead.

878
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the mom, the mom looks a little off

879
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: in the picture. I have to say, but I don't

880
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: know what's going on there, because you can't be all there.

881
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: If you think that that that's a good idea. Ever,

882
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: And and imagine the kid, the other kid seeing his

883
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: sister get smushed to death by a train was probably

884
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: really lovely. Like you just hear a kid get got

885
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: hit by a train, but like that looks horrendous, traumatizing.

886
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: Nothing that anybody should see their family member looking like that.

887
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: So kudos to mom mom of the year.

888
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: She's she's found guilty of two charges of child abuse

889
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: and now she's been sentenced to six years, which is

890
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: six years enough for this. It wasn't necessarily intentional, but

891
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: but but.

892
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: You'll really trust her judgment, Yeah, exactly, Like what is

893
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: this the first time they did this?

894
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: Is this?

895
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: Like like what else is she doing that you have

896
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: to say, like, you don't, you're not doing the right thing,

897
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: You're you shouldn't. I mean six years isn't shit, Like

898
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I mean she said she was

899
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: she felt bad about it. I'm sure she does feel

900
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: bad about it.

901
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: I would hope you would feel bad about that.

902
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: Well, that's why I said I didn't know what the

903
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: category to put it in, because I don't think she

904
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, I'm gonna have my kid go

905
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: under a train and get ran over by a train today,

906
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: you know, But there has to be a certain level

907
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: of responsibility for an adult to put your kid in

908
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: that situation. Yeah, all right, let's get on there. We

909
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: have a lot of medical news today, which is the

910
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: category is just vary so much from week to week.

911
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: So a lot of good medical stories though that we

912
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: want to share with you.

913
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. First, we have this really disturbing story out of

914
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: a hospital in Oregon where a nurse had allegedly been

915
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: replacing fentanyl IV bags with tap water. So can you

916
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: explain exactly what was going on?

917
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a nurse, so I don't know

918
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,479
Speaker 1: the access that they have. I thought I thought these

919
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: bags were like pre filled with whatever it was supposed

920
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 1: to be and they hooked them up to the ivs

921
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 1: and everything. But I don't know if there's a way

922
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: that they can empty them and put other stuff into them.

923
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: But apparently a nurse was probably stealing the vent and

924
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 1: all that they were supposed to be giving a patient

925
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: and instead substituting it with tap water. And the way

926
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: that they figured this out was that they did autopsies

927
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: on these people and found that that they had like

928
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: weird infections and they that came from tap water. It

929
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: also sucks because these people were prescribed fat and all

930
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: in the hospital, which means they were in a significant

931
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: amount of pain and they weren't being giving it. They

932
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: were being given water instead. And I don't know, did

933
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: momm send us this story?

934
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah she did, so good shut out MoMA this. Yeah.

935
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: So this caused dozens of patients harm and some of

936
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: them ended up dying from the weird infections they were

937
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: getting from the non sterile tap.

938
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: You know what I love about the story. It's like

939
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: a hospital and they won't name the name of the hospital,

940
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: Like really, because guess what if I was living in

941
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: Oregon right now, I'd want to know what hospital was

942
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: doing that because I certainly wouldn't want to go there.

943
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's I was just talking at a

944
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: holiday party last week with somebody about the good the

945
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: good nurse case that we've covered so many times, and

946
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: how the hospitals will do anything to avoid the pr crisis,

947
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: including just transferring a serial killer nurse to several different

948
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: different hospitals. So it's not their problem.

949
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm neither first time their name, Yeah, exactly.

950
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 2: It's disgusting, all right.

951
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: This is this is probably one of the more shocking

952
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: cases of the week. There was a priest this was

953
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: in the Czech Republic and he got a tick bite

954
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: from And what happens is in certain areas of the

955
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: world you could get different infections than in other areas

956
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: of the world, and where he was living in the

957
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: Czech Republic, there is a tickborn virus that you can

958
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: get that causes tickborn encephalitis, and you actually can't if

959
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: you get bit by a tick in the United States.

960
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: You can't get that here. So that's always something that

961
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: you have to take in consideration when you travel to

962
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: other areas that they have different organisms. Even if you

963
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: live in New Jersey and you travel to like Arizona,

964
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: there's different fungal species out there than there are here.

965
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: And it's just that's why they always ask you if

966
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: you were traveling, because if you have some weird infection,

967
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: they want to know where you got it from. But

968
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: so he gets this this viral encephalitis, which causes encephalitis

969
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: is just like an inflammation on the outside of the

970
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: brain and it could cause symptoms anywhere from like confusion, headache,

971
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: minor things to severe things like psychosis and having delusions

972
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: of things that aren't real. And for whatever reason, he

973
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: ended up cutting his penis off, and he had a

974
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: meeting that he didn't show up to, so EMS was

975
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: sent to his house and they showed up and they

976
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: found a guy laying there with his penis amputated in

977
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: a pool of blood. And when he got to the hospital,

978
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: they were like, okay, like why did this guy do this?

979
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: They're trying to investigate because obviously that's like the last

980
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: thing that a man would ever want to do. And

981
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: they found out that he had encephalitis and that he

982
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: had an infection caused by this tickborn illness.

983
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: Crazy, Yes, this this is a wild story. I would

984
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 2: have never thought a tick bite would have transferred into

985
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: this type of action.

986
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: Like it's nothing to be scared of, Like, oh, if

987
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: you ever go visit over there, like you're gonna go

988
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: nuts and start cutting off your body parts. Like it

989
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 1: doesn't usually get to severe psychosis like that, but it happens,

990
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: so it's reported, but it's not common. Yeah, it's it's

991
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: just I mean, it's it's it's a crazy story. Let's

992
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: just face it. It's a crazy story, all right, Another

993
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: another crazy All these stories are are pretty crazy this week.

994
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: But this new mom was speaking out. She so she

995
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: had a baby and then she got pregnant again, and

996
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: she thought that she had hemorrhoids, and she which is

997
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: like most lots of people get hemorrhoids when they're pregnant.

998
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 2: But they're saying it. Yeah, it's saying it's really common

999
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 2: in pregnancy, which is something I feel like I've never

1000
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: heard before.

1001
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's just because of the extra weight on

1002
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: the vascular system. It's it's it's definitely common in pregnancy.

1003
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: It's it's super common in pregnancy.

1004
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 2: Did you have pregnancy roids?

1005
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I guess I did, but it would

1006
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: just like a little one, but it went away, But

1007
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: you can. I mean, people get really bad ones, really

1008
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: really bad ones. Hemorrhoids are freaking horrible. So she she

1009
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: kind of dealt with it well while she was pregnant,

1010
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: and then after she delivered the baby, like they didn't

1011
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: go away. And the thing is is that when you

1012
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: have the baby and the extra weight of the heavy

1013
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: uterus is out, it's not necessarily gonna go away all together,

1014
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: but like that should start alleviating your symptoms. Just the

1015
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: having the baby is kind of part of the treatment

1016
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: in a sense, if that's what was caused by But

1017
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: they didn't go away, and she said something to the

1018
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 1: doctor and the doctor was like, all right, well, we're

1019
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: like it seemed like the doctor was like, you're gonna

1020
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: have to go like see somebody for this, because like,

1021
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: you can't be having hemorrhoids. You could get all sorts

1022
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: of surgeries and treatments for them. And she was like, nah,

1023
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: I think I want to get a colonoscopy just to

1024
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: make sure everything's okay. Now, this woman's only thirty six

1025
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: years old and you're not even supposed to get a

1026
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: screening colonoscopy till you're like forty five now. And the

1027
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: doctor says, okay, you, we'll get you on. We'll check

1028
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: it out. Sure. And the day before she goes to

1029
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: get the kolonoscopy, they say to her, oh, it's gonna

1030
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: be six hundred dollars because the insurance doesn't cover it

1031
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: because you're not ready for a screening colonoscopy. You're not

1032
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: old enough yet. So luckily she was in a position

1033
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: so number one, she felt so strongly about getting this colonoscopy,

1034
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: and she was in a financial position to pay for this.

1035
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: She gets the colonoscopy and right afterwards they were like,

1036
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: you have a four centimeter mass in your rectum, which

1037
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: is huge for a rectal tumor, and it's probably cancer.

1038
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: We're just trying to warn you. We're waiting for the

1039
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: path They technically like can't tell you have cancer until

1040
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: they get the biopsy result back because there's like rare

1041
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: chances it could be a benign thing. But like when

1042
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: something's that big, it's just like it's just not good, right,

1043
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: And you could, especially when you're an experienced GI doctor,

1044
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: like you know what a tumor looks like. So they

1045
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: were like just just letting you know that this isn't good.

1046
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: And she ended up getting diagnosed with colorectal cancer stage three,

1047
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: which is pretty advanced. It was spread to a lymph

1048
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: note already, and now you know, she has a little baby,

1049
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: she has to get chemo radiation, and she's just saying,

1050
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,479
Speaker 1: like she was thirty six years old when she got

1051
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: diagnosed with this, and she was nine years away from

1052
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: being at the age to get screened for it. And

1053
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: I personally thought, and I could be wrong, I thought that, like,

1054
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: if you were supposed to get this at a certain age,

1055
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: then the insurance won't pay for it just because you

1056
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: want one. But if the doctors are like, she has

1057
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: hemorrhoids or some kind of issue that then it would

1058
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: get paid for, because they'll do it if there's a

1059
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 1: medical issue. Because one time, I, you know, I started

1060
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: gett mamograms when I was forty, but like when I

1061
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: was thirty eight or something, I just had like a

1062
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: weird rash on my boob and the doctor was like,

1063
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: let's just get it checked out, just to be sure,

1064
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 1: because sometimes breast cancer could show up like as a rash,

1065
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 1: and I got a mammogram done, but it was before

1066
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 1: I was due to get screened. But it was because

1067
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: there was something suspicious, because obviously people do most people

1068
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: get breast cancer after forty, but there's lots of people

1069
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: that get it before forty. So but crazy story, right.

1070
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was saying that she was really fortunate that

1071
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: she could afford to do the test anyway, because otherwise

1072
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: what would have happened.

1073
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: She would have kept buying creams and doing whatever and

1074
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: maybe going to a proctologist to get a console to

1075
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: get them removed, which just could have been months. You know,

1076
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: sometimes you make doctor's appointments in it's months away, And

1077
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: I mean she was diagnosed at stage three so if

1078
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: she waited much longer, she could have had stage four

1079
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: and been terminal. I mean, it's scary.

1080
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 2: This is really sad, and I've been seeing a lot

1081
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: of articles lately that's just saying there's a rise in

1082
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: these types of cancers and younger people, going up to

1083
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: almost twenty percent the last Yeah it's two decades. Oh yeah, totally.

1084
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: And it's just like, if if that's really the case

1085
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 2: and they're seeing that in data, they really need to

1086
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: be adjusting the test.

1087
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: But that is they will eventually, but that will take

1088
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: forever because the thing is is that the insurance companies

1089
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: rule the world and they pay. So if they start saying,

1090
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: all right, we're going to do them when people are

1091
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: thirty five, that means you're paying for colonoscopies for ten

1092
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: additional years on a person. They just like they don't

1093
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: want to pay it, like that's it's just the way

1094
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: it is, and it sucks. I thought this next story

1095
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: was relevant to number one me because I drink bubble

1096
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: tea all the time, or to Uncle Louis because he

1097
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: just got diagnosed with this recently for the same kind

1098
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: of an issue. Do you want to talk about it?

1099
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 2: I literally thought this was about you. So doctors in

1100
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 2: Taiwan had to remove were three hundred kidney stones from

1101
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: a twenty eight year old woman because she all she

1102
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: drank was bubble tea and alcohol and pretty much everything

1103
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 2: except water. So she just developed all of these kidney

1104
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: stones and had severe chronic dehydration. So I think this

1105
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: really relates to you, because especially the summer of twenty

1106
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: twenty one, we went through getting one to two bubble

1107
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: tea every single day.

1108
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: Wait was that when I was writing my book. Yeah,

1109
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: I needed to chew to concentrate, but yeah I drink

1110
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: I drink tea a lot. But so so my brother,

1111
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: he'll be happy that we're sharing his personal medical information

1112
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: with you. He just recently had kidney stones and went

1113
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: to the doctor, and I thought it was kind of weird.

1114
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: He's young, he's under forty. I'm just like, what what's

1115
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: going on? What have you been eating and stuff? And

1116
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: he's like, I've been drinking a gallon of iced tea

1117
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: every day at work the whole summer instead of water. Right.

1118
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: It was like something like that, and I was like,

1119
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: well that'll do it. So, yeah, tea is definitely I

1120
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: think I think it's hard to think this way, right,

1121
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: because how do you make tea. You take water and

1122
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: you put a tea bag in it, But then when

1123
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: you put the tea bag in it, it's no longer water,

1124
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: so you can't substitute that liquid for drinking water. But

1125
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: for me it's hard because I don't I don't like

1126
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: to drink water. So if I have coffee or tea

1127
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: in the morning in the afternoon, then you kind of

1128
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: have to make yourself drink water in between, because it

1129
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 1: dilutes down all of the stuff in your urine. Because

1130
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: if it concentrates, it like clumps together and forms stones,

1131
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: and sometimes they could get really big, to the point

1132
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: where you have to get your entire kidney cut out

1133
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: because they can't get it out.

1134
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I cut back, Well, you have warmed. I used

1135
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 2: to drink like a crazy amount of iced tea when

1136
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,919
Speaker 2: I was a teenager, and you told me this s up.

1137
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: And Ricky actually had kidney stones when he was pretty

1138
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: young because all he drank was iced tea his whole life.

1139
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: So I think it's fine if you drink iced tea

1140
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: you just had if you're drinking equal amounts of water

1141
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: a day. But I just think most people. This is

1142
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: like a silent epidemic, is that. I think there's a

1143
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: lot of people that just don't like drinking water. They

1144
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: don't like I don't like the taste of regular water.

1145
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: I just don't like it. So it's obviously I could

1146
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: drink it if I'm thirsty, but just to sit there

1147
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: and chug it, it's just like very hard for me

1148
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: to do. And a lot of people I talk to

1149
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: are the same thing, Like they don't have any problem

1150
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: drinking two gallons of iced tea or two gallons of coffee,

1151
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: but like two gallons of water is like it's just

1152
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: impossible to get down right. So I think that's that's

1153
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: why you're seeing kidney stones in these people. But I

1154
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: just thought that that was interesting. And I always love

1155
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: a good story about bubble tea.

1156
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And this next story is really bizarre. So

1157
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 2: a new study has come out showing that sniffing women's

1158
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,959
Speaker 2: tears may reduce aggression in men.

1159
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: This is like one of my favorite stories of the week.

1160
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: They were saying that they already knew that tears that

1161
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: it lowers testosterone, so they thought that if they checked it,

1162
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: they know that the tears would lower testosterone. And therefore

1163
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: they wanted to check it in men to see because

1164
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: if a man has less testosterone, they would be less aggressive.

1165
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: So they wanted to see like how they could take

1166
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: that knowledge and see how they could make it come

1167
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: to life in men, right, And the way they conducted

1168
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: this study is so cool. So they had six female

1169
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: donors from the ages of twenty to twenty five years old,

1170
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: and they had to cry a lot. And they can't

1171
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: be they can't be tears like if I'm sitting there

1172
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: cutting an oven an onion and I have like tears

1173
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: running down my face. They can't be like artificially produced tears.

1174
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: They have to be tears that come from like an

1175
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: emotional response. So they would have like these women like

1176
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: watch sad movies or like they would just see my

1177
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: mom and nope, my mom could have been like a

1178
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: candidate for this study because she cries all the time.

1179
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: Me too, but like she, So they get these women

1180
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: to cry, and they have to cry a lot because

1181
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: they have to collect a lot of tears. So then

1182
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: the next control is is that they need a man

1183
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: that's really aggressive. So the way that they get to

1184
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: a guy to be aggressive is they get them to

1185
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: play video games that cause them to get agitated and aggressive.

1186
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: So they had twenty five guys and when they collected

1187
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: these tears, and they had these men that were all

1188
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: like revved up from these aggressive video games. When they

1189
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: had them sniff the tears, the men so they they

1190
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: put tears in little cups, and they put saline in

1191
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: little cups. And they didn't tell the guys which one

1192
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: they were smelling. They didn't know if it was saline,

1193
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: which would do nothing, or if it was like these

1194
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: female emotional tears. And when the men that sniffed the

1195
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: tears had a forty three point seven percent fewer aggression

1196
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: than the other guys did that sniffed the saline. Like

1197
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: how insane is that.

1198
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 2: I can't imagine crying so much that it could go

1199
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: into a cup. Think about the second.

1200
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that, like if someone died, and like yeah,

1201
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: because like obviously there's situations where you cry really, really

1202
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: hard a lot, But I don't know if I would

1203
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: be able to like reproduce that from a movie. I

1204
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: would be able to cry from a movie, but not

1205
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: like like it's not my life. There's there's a certain

1206
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: sense of like, you know what I mean, but but

1207
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: like momm could one hundred percent, she could turn on

1208
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: the it's the Notebook and then tell me how you feel.

1209
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: Miss I cried during the Barbie boos. But I won't

1210
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: watch the Notebook because I know, I know. Camille told

1211
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: me that it was really my sister in law. She

1212
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: she was just like, it's bad, and I she briefly

1213
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: told me what it was about, and I'm like, nope,

1214
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm not watching that. I will cry so bad.

1215
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 2: All right.

1216
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: We had told the story a couple weeks ago about

1217
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 1: this woman that had this rare double uterus and she

1218
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: was pregnant, and so having a double uterus is rare

1219
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: as it is it's a congenital anomaly. So it means

1220
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: when she was forming as a feed as, her uterus

1221
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: didn't form properly and it gave her her uterus was

1222
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: it two cavities basically instead of one, And that's rare

1223
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: in itself. But when she went to the doctor on

1224
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: this other this I believe it was her second pregnancy,

1225
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: second or third, it was another pregnancy that she had.

1226
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: The they did an ultrasound and saw that she had

1227
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: a fetus inside of each uterine cavity and that's so rare,

1228
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: like one in fifty million people get pregnant like that.

1229
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: So we told you about that a few weeks ago.

1230
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: And she just gave birth to two healthy babies.

1231
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 2: Two healthy babies. That first was born on December nineteenth,

1232
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: the second was born on December twentieth. They were about

1233
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 2: eleven hours apart. Both weighed seven pounds and healthy. They

1234
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 2: were saying. The last known case of this, the woman

1235
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 2: gave birth twenty six days apart. Like, how much would

1236
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: that suck to give birth and then have to wait

1237
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 2: a month to give birth to the second baby.

1238
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: They're not they're not what people would think of traditional twins,

1239
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: Like you have to think that this woman was pregnant

1240
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: with these two twins that were conceived on two different times.

1241
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: They're two different babies. They're not identical twins. They're not

1242
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: even fraternal twins. They're two separate sexual encounters and two

1243
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: conceptions occurred. It's so crazy. So in theory, and this

1244
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: has happened before, there's been documented cases of this that

1245
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: you could, you know, have sex in January and get pregnant,

1246
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: and then you can have sex in March and get

1247
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: pregnant again. In the other side, it's just it's so nuts.

1248
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind it's really cool.

1249
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 2: Actually, we also, this isn't a full story, and I

1250
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:33,959
Speaker 2: just wanted to mention this that we have a cool

1251
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: local story too where this woman delivered twins and one

1252
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 2: was born December thirty first and one was born on

1253
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 2: January first, So the babies have two different day birthdays

1254
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 2: and two different years.

1255
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, which is and she lives in my town,

1256
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: which is so cool.

1257
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 2: I was like, and you know, you know, the doctors

1258
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 2: were like, hold on a come yeah legs. Yeah.

1259
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: I think I thought that that was really cool too.

1260
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: Though it's just a it's a cool story to tell, Like,

1261
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, twins are always like I'm older than you.

1262
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 1: But it's I mean, you know what, it's going to

1263
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: be a pain in the ass for the mom just

1264
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: because they're always like ones your kids day to birth.

1265
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: And it's easy when you have twins usually because they

1266
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: have the same birthday. But it's like this is this

1267
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: is like this whole big thing for them now different years.

1268
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 2: And I saw the one twin was born at eleven

1269
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 2: forty eight PM, so just miss the mark. And then

1270
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 2: the other baby was born at twelve twenty eight am,

1271
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 2: so they're only a half hour apart.

1272
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's so yeah, that is that's crazy, Like

1273
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: you couldn't even tell that. It is a cool story

1274
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: for sure.

1275
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 2: All Right.

1276
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: This this next another another cool research that's going on

1277
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: is that there there have been studies in pigs that

1278
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: show that this new thing that they made, which is

1279
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: a vibrating pill that you ingest. So they give it

1280
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,799
Speaker 1: to the pig and the pill goes down into the stomach.

1281
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 1: It's coated with a special thing that cannot start vibrating

1282
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 1: until the stomach acid hits the outer coating of it,

1283
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: and the vibe is supposed to give the body and

1284
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 1: the stomach the sensation of fullness. And these pigs that

1285
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: they've been giving it to about twenty minutes before they eat,

1286
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: they they ate roughly forty percent less than pigs that

1287
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: did not use the device.

1288
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 2: Didn't. Did we talk about a pill in the last

1289
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 2: couple of months that was a vibrating pill to help

1290
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 2: people go to the bathroom that were constipated.

1291
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think.

1292
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Speaker 2: This is the same thing, but the fact that there's

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01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 2: potentially two different vibrating pills on the markets is kind

1294
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 2: of a creat.

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01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: It was crazy. When I first started working as the PA,

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01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: one day I got a foreign body and it was

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01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: called a pill camera and I was like what the

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01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah this because I like, you don't learn everything

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01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: in school, so it's just like every day as a PA,

1300
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: you're learning, you get new stuff and you're like, okay,

1301
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: this is new. And it was like yeah, there because

1302
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: there's when you get an endoscopy, it only goes down

1303
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: so far and it only goes up. A colonoscopy only

1304
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: goes up so far, and there's this huge segment of

1305
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: the bow that they can't see because they can't reach

1306
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: it with the scope. So you could take this pill

1307
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: that's a camera that will kind of look at your

1308
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: GI system in the middle where they can't reach. And

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01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: I just thought it was crazy. I'm like, this pill

1310
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: looks like really expensive and you just shit it out.

1311
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: That's it. Like it goes into trash and it's the

1312
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: same like this vibrating pill. But I mean that's like,

1313
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: this is like awesome if it because it's not a drug.

1314
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: It's kind of it goes in and it's a manual

1315
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: manipulation kind of and then you poop it out. You

1316
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: don't have to take any weird drugs that affect your

1317
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 1: gi system. I mean, listen, there's gonna be some problems

1318
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: with this thing. I just I don't even want to

1319
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: think about what they're gonna be. But you know, there's

1320
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: always a problem with something. But I don't know.

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01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,480
Speaker 2: Well, they're hoping this is going to be an affordable

1322
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: alternative to other weight loss dramatic surgeries or some pharmaceuticals,

1323
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 2: So it would be cool if this worked. Then seems

1324
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 2: like a more natural route to going about.

1325
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm interested in this honestly, Like I'll just pop one

1326
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: once a month and be like hey.

1327
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 2: But they're only testing it on pigs right now. It's

1328
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 2: going to be a couple of years before human trials start.

1329
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 2: And it started to going.

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01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: And then I just thought like, okay, so people are

1331
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: going to abuse this thing, and it's just there's going

1332
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: to be like obstructions because people took too many vibrating pills.

1333
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: Just trying to think. I always try to think all

1334
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: the bad shit that could happen. All right, let's get

1335
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: to other death news. So this week I told you

1336
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 1: we drove. We drove from New Jersey to Key West

1337
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 1: and back, and it was it was long but we

1338
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: love our car rides, so it was fun. On the

1339
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 1: way to Florida, we always stop in Savannah. It's like

1340
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: we love the city. It's it's awesome. And it was

1341
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,799
Speaker 1: like a really shitty day when we got there, of course,

1342
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 1: like we're leaving New Jersey where it's cold and raining

1343
01:11:55,880 --> 01:12:00,080
Speaker 1: and we want to go to Florida and Georgia and

1344
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: like nice warmer weather, and no, it was it was

1345
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: like fifty some degrees in raining when we got there

1346
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: for the whole day. So I start Google searching, like

1347
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: what are things to do in Savannah when it's raining?

1348
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: Because we couldn't even walk around outside like we normally do.

1349
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: And I came across this museum and it said it

1350
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: was a serial killer museum and I was like, what

1351
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: how come I never heard about this? And I looked

1352
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: into it and I was like, this is really cool.

1353
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: It looks it looks so cool. And of course they

1354
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: were closed. So I messaged the owner and I said, hey,

1355
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: is there a way, like are you there? Can I

1356
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: go there? And they were kind enough to let myself

1357
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: in as well as my family, and it was like

1358
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: the coolest museum ever if you ever go to Georgia.

1359
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: They had it wasn't just a serial killer museum, and

1360
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: obviously anybody that has interest in true crime would just

1361
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: love this museum. They have major, major cases like John

1362
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 1: Wayne Gacy, huge collection of his his artwork and ed

1363
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 1: Gain case artifacts from the case, and it's just really cool.

1364
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: And the staff is just like so knowledgeable. They know

1365
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: way more about the cases than I've ever heard on

1366
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: any of these true crime shows or anything, and it

1367
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: was just it was just like really cool. They had

1368
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: an oddity part in the beginning, which I think was

1369
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: like more interesting to the kids because obviously you're talking

1370
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: about like kids, you don't really want them knowing about

1371
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 1: like people getting brutally murdered. So the beginning of the

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01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 1: museum was more for kids. They showed like circus freak

1373
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 1: stuff and sideshow attractions and really cool taxid army of

1374
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: like two headed sheep or something like just cool like

1375
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: fun stuff like that, and then as you walk through

1376
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 1: it got more gruesome. But the good part was was

1377
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,759
Speaker 1: that there was there was like ten or fifteen pinball

1378
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: machines lined up there that were free that the kids

1379
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,759
Speaker 1: just sat there and played while we were like looking

1380
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: at pictures of dead bodies and stuff, so it was

1381
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 1: really awesome. Just wanted to give a shout out to them.

1382
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 2: And so what's this museum called forever?

1383
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: So it's called Grave Face Museum and it's Grave Face

1384
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: Underscore Museum on Instagram. So check it out if you're

1385
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: ever in Savannah. We're going back because I have that lecture.

1386
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, most Important.

1387
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: Conference, and I don't know the exact date. Are they

1388
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 1: even selling tickets for it yet?

1389
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if tickets are for sale, but you

1390
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 2: could go on most Important patient dot com for somewhere

1391
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 2: info there's some.

1392
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,799
Speaker 1: You could sign it for the like they'll let you know, right.

1393
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't think we have a confirmed date

1394
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 2: for your lecture yet, but I believe it's the last

1395
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 2: week of June and ends right before fourth of July.

1396
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, So well that's a fun time to go

1397
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 2: to Savannah. It'll be a little toasty down there, but

1398
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 2: they have good ice cream everywhere and it's a fun

1399
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 2: little town. They have great food, so amazing.

1400
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do. I love Savannah and just it's so

1401
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: it's just so cold in there, Like I feel like

1402
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: I could live there. Honestly. I'm not into the swampy

1403
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: weather in the summer, but just the trees and the

1404
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: everything is just so so cool, all right. And so

1405
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 1: going off of that, the last story that we have

1406
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: in death News this week is that there's this guy

1407
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: on Instagram and I love when people have these like

1408
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 1: super creative ideas for an Instagram account, and his is

1409
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: at JJ slaven S l a v i n or

1410
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: Slavin Slavan. But this is a guy who's a recent

1411
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 1: college grad that thought it would be a good idea

1412
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:42,520
Speaker 1: to recreate inmates that are on death row, to recreate

1413
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 1: their final meals. And he recreates them, he eats them,

1414
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: and then he kind of gives a critique and a

1415
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: rating on them. It's just it's genius. I love it

1416
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: so much. And he's covered like Timothy McVeigh.

1417
01:15:56,320 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: Which he did not like. Timothy mcveay requested to pints

1418
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 2: of mid choldcolate chip ice cream, and this guy did

1419
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 2: not like that that was his meal. His favorite was

1420
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 2: Alton Coleman, a serial killer whose final meal this honestly

1421
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 2: sounds delicious. I want to make difference. Filet mignon with

1422
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 2: mushroom gravy biscuits and gravy fried chicken. French fries, broccoli

1423
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 2: with cheese, collared green onion rings, corn bread, a salad,

1424
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 2: sweet potato pie, buttered pecan ice cream, and cherry cola.

1425
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: So this is one thing that this guy mentions that

1426
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: I think is really cool. He says that you rarely

1427
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to select exactly what you were going

1428
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 1: to eat before you die, which is true, like most

1429
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: people don't know when they're going to die, and it's

1430
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: honestly like a really cool thing to think about, Like,

1431
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: when people know that they are going to die the

1432
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: next day at this time, what is the last thing

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01:16:54,320 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 1: that you would decide to eat? So, Maria, what would

1434
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: what would yours be?

1435
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 2: I think I'd want the rope of vieha from Mixed Oh,

1436
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: because it's my favorite meal ever, and I'm assuming if

1437
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 2: it's like my last meal because I'm gonna die, Gluten's

1438
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 2: not an issue.

1439
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. I was like, you know what, like,

1440
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 1: since gluten won't be an issue for me anymore, I

1441
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: just want a whole, entire, like twelve pack of Hawaiian

1442
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 1: bread rolls and that's all al eat. It's just the bread.

1443
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't even want any regular food at that point,

1444
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna eat like Italian pastries and bread, all

1445
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:35,480
Speaker 1: all bread.

1446
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 2: I think I want a full meal from mixed O.

1447
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 2: I'm being dead serious. I want the coconut mohido with

1448
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 2: with the yellow rice and the trestlatches and maybe they

1449
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 2: have those good they have those really good a rapists too,

1450
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 2: So I would like a full meal.

1451
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: We gotta go there, go there in a couple of years.

1452
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 2: It went for Valentine's Day last year and it was yeah,

1453
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't have the trust that chase, No,

1454
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,719
Speaker 2: but they have flann flat and stuff. Yeah, and that's

1455
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 2: also delicious. Yeah, so check everything there.

1456
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,879
Speaker 1: So check out this guy's instagram again. It's at jj

1457
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: S L A v I N. I just think that

1458
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: it's just so creative. I love it. It reminds me

1459
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: of remember that that woman we spoke of a couple

1460
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 1: of years ago that was traveling the world and going

1461
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:31,719
Speaker 1: to cemeteries and finding Christmas cookie or it was usually

1462
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: Christmas cookie recipes that were written on tombstones, but just

1463
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: in general recipes written on tombstones and and like recreating

1464
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: the cookies of of of different people. I thought that

1465
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 1: that was so cool.

1466
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 2: One thing I wanted to note about this is there's

1467
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 2: obviously people that like us that are super into the idea,

1468
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: and then some people that find it disrespectful and that

1469
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 2: it glorifies murders. But I thought a really good quote

1470
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 2: he had was he said, not every story from our

1471
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 2: history is going to be sunshine and rainbows. But I

1472
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 2: don't think that's a reason not to share them, And

1473
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 2: I think that's really awesome way to think about that,

1474
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 2: and just sharing these horrific stories and being able to

1475
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 2: digest them and understand that things like this happen.

1476
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was talking to them about the

1477
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 1: at the museum too, just assuming that they get some shit,

1478
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: because we get some shit all the time, right, So yeah,

1479
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 1: and just talking about that, like you can't just brush

1480
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 1: this stuff under the rug and pretend that it doesn't happen.

1481
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 1: And a lot of times you just don't. You don't

1482
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: know who who is a specific story or situation is

1483
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 1: going to help someone, Even learning about the serial killers

1484
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: and stuff, Like I was trying to tell the kids,

1485
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: it's important for us to learn about this stuff because

1486
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 1: that's when mommy says to you, like, don't get in

1487
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,759
Speaker 1: the car with strangers and stuff. It's because this happened

1488
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 1: in real life, and we want you to learn about

1489
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: this because it's happened and we don't want it to

1490
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: happen again. So I don't think there's anything wrong with

1491
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: talking about it. You're not You're not trying to give

1492
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: him make him famous. You're just trying to Sometimes people

1493
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 1: are so freaked out by it they just want to

1494
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: learn from it.

1495
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So onto our questions of the day.

1496
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: I hope you guys really loved their holidays special it

1497
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 2: was really fun to talk about some personal stuff and

1498
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 2: kind of knock on each other about some of our

1499
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 2: pet peers with each other. Our first question today is

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01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,839
Speaker 2: can you tell if a woman has had a baby

1501
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 2: just by looking at her uterus? And if so, how Yes,

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01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: So that's cool.

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Speaker 1: If a woman has a baby vaginally, the so the

1504
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: opening of the uterus is called the cervix, and the

1505
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: opening is usually the size we'll say it's like pinpoint,

1506
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: but I would say it's more of like the size

1507
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 1: of a pen, or maybe even like a little bit

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01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: bigger in diameter, a hole in the middle of the cervix.

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01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 1: And when a woman has a baby vaginally, it looks

1510
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 1: different afterwards, it looks more like a happy face or

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01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 1: like a slit, so we would describe it as like

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01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 1: a pinpoint uterus is usually one that appears that a

1513
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: baby never came out of it, and a slit shaped

1514
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: juterus is one that a baby has come out of it.

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01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 1: Then you say, well, what about if a woman's had

1516
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: a cea section, Well, then she's gonna have a scar

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01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: on the anterior surface of her uterus because they have

1518
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: to cut through it in order to get the baby out.

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01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 2: So yes, wow, that's really interesting. It's cool, all right,

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01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 2: So what is your daily routine? Like, do pas have

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01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 2: a schedule?

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01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: So I don't work at the hospital right now anymore?

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01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,759
Speaker 1: Well sometimes, but not really not a full time schedule anymore.

1524
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 1: So my particular schedule is way different than it was

1525
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: when I was working full time as a PA. But yes,

1526
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: when I when I worked as a PA at a

1527
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: couple different hospitals, even when I rotated as a student,

1528
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: we pretty much had the same schedule, which was Monday

1529
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 1: through Friday, like seven to three or nine to five,

1530
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: like some kind of business hours pretty much, but different places.

1531
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: Like I know that Penn started opening like on nights

1532
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:23,600
Speaker 1: and weekends. Sometimes even when I was a student or

1533
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: I was working per daym I would go in and

1534
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 1: work at night for extra money. And so the lab

1535
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 1: is usually only open during the weekdays and off on

1536
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: the weekends, but more and more of the lab is

1537
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: opening on the weekends. That's like surgical pathology. And then

1538
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 1: as far as autopsy goes, it's the same thing. Most

1539
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 1: of the time at the hospital, the autopsies open Monday

1540
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: through Friday. But then in certain situations, if a pathologist

1541
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 1: needs to come in to do an autopsy because I

1542
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: don't know, if a person needs to get buried right

1543
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 1: away or something like that, it's usually like a religious request,

1544
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: then they would come in or sometimes like some kind

1545
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 1: of metabolic testing or something. Crisper's on call every like

1546
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 1: she shares a call schedule with.

1547
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 2: So typically when you get to work, like if you're

1548
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 2: working in a normal schedule, what is there in order

1549
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 2: a specific order you do stuff or you kind of

1550
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 2: just jump in wherever you liked.

1551
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: It just depends where you work, because different different institutions

1552
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: do different things. But yeah, it's like there's really never

1553
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: like especially if you're in surgical pathology, it's like you

1554
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: have a countertop full of specimens that are from surgeries

1555
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,719
Speaker 1: that are happening all day. So even if the rare

1556
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 1: chance that you clean everything up from the day, when

1557
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 1: you come in the next day, there's going to be

1558
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: stuff waiting for you because people like there's no surgery

1559
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: scheduled at night, in the middle of the night, but

1560
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: people come in and they're appendix ruptured, they're gawbladder, they're

1561
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 1: colon burst, whatever happened, got shot, and all that stuff

1562
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: comes in throughout the night, so in the morning you

1563
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: still have stuff. It's like it's just a constant flow

1564
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: of stuff coming in and unless you have like a

1565
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 1: fully staffed lab that's appropriate for the amount of specimens

1566
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: that you get, which in my opinion is never the

1567
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: case because they always just want to save money and

1568
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: not give you enough employees to help with the work.

1569
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:26,799
Speaker 1: There's just always stuff. So sometimes like in the morning,

1570
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 1: if we get a colon, let's say a person had

1571
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: like a perforated dive reticulatus, and we get a colon

1572
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 1: from overnight, and it's in a bag and it's fret

1573
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: that's called like fresh. It's just in a like a

1574
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 1: ziploc bag. I'll take it out and put it like

1575
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: in formulin or the formaldehyde just to get it just

1576
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,640
Speaker 1: because number one, you don't want the poop that's in

1577
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,879
Speaker 1: there like eating away at the surface of the lining.

1578
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: And number two, the formaldehyde kind of makes the cell

1579
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: structures look like more crisp, so I could kind of

1580
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 1: open that up, clean the poop out real quick, and

1581
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: throw it in a bucket and like do it later.

1582
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 1: So there is there is like a kind of let's

1583
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 1: prioritize what needs to get done first, because for example,

1584
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 1: if a person has a perforated diverticulatus, the problem is

1585
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 1: out of their body, Like the doctor knows why it happened.

1586
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 1: They surgically took it out. It's out, so like they

1587
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 1: don't need to know that very day like what happened,

1588
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: because they kind of already know what happens. So that

1589
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 1: could wait, whereas there's other things that are like more

1590
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: important a skin biopsy that they're trying to rule out,

1591
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: like a reaction to a drug or something that's like

1592
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: really important, it needs to get done first, So that

1593
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: that's the kind of schedule. But you just have to know,

1594
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: like this is important, get this done today. This one

1595
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 1: this is an amputated, like for gangerine that could wait

1596
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: four days? Who cares like it's off? The person's fine,

1597
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's just like a constant juggling of

1598
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 1: what's important what's not.

1599
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 2: Okay? Is there anything out there that still gives you

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01:25:54,800 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 2: the willies besides et? Your fear of eat is unbelievable?

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01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 1: No, I mean like yeah, I mean, like what does

1602
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: the willies mean? Just like freak like like gives you

1603
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 1: the ick? Yeah, Like like hair does not like wet hair.

1604
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:22,440
Speaker 1: There's something that grow like even I'll really some people.

1605
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 2: Are so skeped now when there's hair and food and

1606
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 2: I'm just like.

1607
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 1: No, I don't care if there's hair and food, but

1608
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: like when when I when I have to take someone's

1609
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 1: brain out. Sometimes, like I'll use a comb to part

1610
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 1: their hair, to part their hair to make a part

1611
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 1: where the incision is gonna be so I don't cut

1612
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: their hair with the blade. And sometimes they have like

1613
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,640
Speaker 1: dandruff and like that crust stuff in the head, and

1614
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:45,600
Speaker 1: I wet their hair so it's easier for me to

1615
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: comb and like that kind of grosses me out, like

1616
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: just I don't know if that reminds me of like

1617
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: when I went to hair school or something just like dirt,

1618
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 1: like like it's not dirty, it's just like head crust

1619
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 1: like like that like wet hair kind of. I don't know,

1620
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: I mean not that much. Like like spewed them always

1621
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: grossed me out because I had to do when I

1622
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: was in I worked in microbiology and I used to

1623
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: have to put it on Petrie dishes and like it's

1624
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 1: basically like someone coughing up a loogie and a cop

1625
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 1: and they could get really nasty looking and then I

1626
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 1: had to like play with it with like a cue

1627
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 1: tip to put it. Yeah, and it's like thick, and

1628
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 1: I don't really I don't like that. Like if Gabe

1629
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 1: spits or something, I'm like, do you have to do that?

1630
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 1: Like really it's disgusting. So, like I know how I.

1631
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 2: Feel about other people's boogers, Like I can pick my

1632
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 2: nose all day long, but I do not want to

1633
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 2: see anybody else's. It makes me a throw up. I

1634
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 2: don't know what it is about it.

1635
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a like thick, mucasy thing. I don't

1636
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 1: it's not like nothing really, there's nothing really that like

1637
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: freaks me out to the point where I can't like

1638
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: deal with it. I guess.

1639
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: Okay, last question, are we right or left handed?

1640
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 1: Oh? Right? I paint left handed, though I paint left

1641
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 1: Do you I paint left handed a lot? But yeah, right,

1642
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: We're all right except.

1643
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 2: Lillian and Ricky's ambidet is that the way word ambidextrius? Yes,

1644
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 2: he can do both.

1645
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I I think. Don't you think everybody

1646
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 1: could really do both if you sat like you can't

1647
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 1: write with your left hand.

1648
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 2: I could if I really sat there. But I guess

1649
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 2: with him, it's he he writes with one hand, but

1650
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 2: he does if he plays hockey or baseball, he does

1651
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 2: it with the other, which I couldn't. I couldn't swing

1652
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 2: a bat the other Oh you know what I think?

1653
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 1: So this is this is like an interesting thing I

1654
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: think about sometimes because when I was when I was

1655
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 1: in first grade, let's say it was like nineteen eighty five, right,

1656
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 1: there was a kid in my class and he was

1657
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 1: left handed, and I remember like it was like he

1658
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 1: was like the freak in the school, Like they just

1659
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 1: were trying to push him to do it the other way,

1660
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: and he was just hardcore with the other hand, like

1661
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 1: and it was like this so weird.

1662
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 2: It was weird.

1663
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 1: But now I just think they kind of like in

1664
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 1: modern day like you even like they they like let

1665
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:14,679
Speaker 1: kids do what they want to do. If you want

1666
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:16,919
Speaker 1: to bat this way, you want to catch this way,

1667
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 1: you want to write this way. Whatever. So I think

1668
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are my age, like it

1669
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 1: seems like there's more lefties now, but I think it's

1670
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 1: just that they're not forcing you to be to be

1671
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: a righty anymore. Like Lillian has just no like she

1672
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 1: what did she have last year? Like eight kids in

1673
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: her class, and like three or four of them were

1674
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 1: left handed, And I'm like, how is that even possible?

1675
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:43,839
Speaker 2: Well, it just it's such an innocent thing that doesn't

1676
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 2: affect anybody, So it's so bizarre to try to know

1677
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 2: it's somebody.

1678
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 1: You know what, though, having a left handed child it is,

1679
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 1: it is different. It's it's different, and it's hard. I

1680
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: could see why teachers would like just it would be

1681
01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 1: easier to be like cause the users are a problem

1682
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 1: where the kid sits as a problem, Like if you

1683
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 1: get stuck eating next to Lilli and it sucks because

1684
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,600
Speaker 1: her arm is bumping against yours, and like you know

1685
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 1: what I mean, like stupid stuff like that like she

1686
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 1: I actually got her this book for Christmas that's like

1687
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 1: a left handed notebook, because they she would feel more comfortable,

1688
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:20,680
Speaker 1: like if the rings were on the other side of

1689
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: the notebook. Oh, it's just so I think for for

1690
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 1: like hardcore teachers in the eighties, they were just like,

1691
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: we're not and prior to that too, like we're not

1692
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 1: dealing with this like you you conform to us, We're

1693
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 1: not conforming to you kind of thing. But it's just

1694
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 1: it's like an interesting thing I think about.

1695
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 2: All right, guys. Well, every Friday on the at Mother

1696
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 2: Knows Death Instagram, we post a little question box so

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01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 2: you could leave your question to be possibly answered on

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01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:53,719
Speaker 2: the following episode. So thank you guys for an awesome

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01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 2: start to the new year, and we are stoked to

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01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 2: be back and.

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01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 1: We have some great interviews coming up, so stay tuned.

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01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death. As a reminder,

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01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: my training is as a pathologist's assistant. I have a

1704
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 1: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.

1705
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 1: I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed

1706
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 1: or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of

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01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: a licensed medical doctor. This show My website and social

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01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 1: media accounts are designed to educate and inform people based

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01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 1: on my experience working in pathology, so they can make

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01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:38,759
Speaker 1: healthier decisions regarding their life and well being. Always remember

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01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,879
Speaker 1: that science is changing every day and the opinions expressed

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01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 1: in this episode are based on my knowledge of those

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01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:48,360
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