WEBVTT - Cooper Eats, Wemby’s Shot Diet & Expectations For Jaylen Brown vs. Jayson Tatum

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<v Speaker 1>This is No Dunks, and we are live. I'm doing

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Might get a job at the White House, but I

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<v Speaker 1>the man in the middle, Trey Kirby.

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<v Speaker 2>Ayo!

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<v Speaker 1>Ayo! And the man making the magic happen. He will

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<v Speaker 1>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, why wouldn't I compress your audio? Well, people, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's because JD won't compress your audio because

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<v Speaker 1>we've got such a range. And JD wants us to

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<v Speaker 1>have our ranges. That's true. But I also, it's definitely compressed. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we got the best sounding podcast out there. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>100%.

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<v Speaker 2>And it must be the compressor.

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<v Speaker 1>No skis today. He will be back tomorrow. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get to all of Monday's action. We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of beefs to get to. We've got Tatum versus Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Giannis versus Doc Rivers. We've got Tyler Kolick

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<v Speaker 1>versus Taylor Swift. Yeah, I said that. It's weird. But first,

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<v Speaker 1>wedgie number 12 of the season happened on Monday night.

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Flagg, a tap-in attempt. That's his first of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>He contributed to three last year in his rookie season.

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<v Speaker 1>a three-point shot, a block, and a mid-range shot, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were all within 10 days or so. Our pace

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<v Speaker 1>this year, right now, it's 71, and I'm not just

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's 71 because Cooper Flagg had a lot within

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<v Speaker 1>10 days, and maybe that should bump it up. We're

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<v Speaker 1>actually taking into account the modern-day era of wedgies, and

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<v Speaker 1>by modern-day, I mean like the last four or five years.

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<v Speaker 1>We've increased the pace. Last few years, 74, 48, 63,

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<v Speaker 1>and 58. So it should be higher, you know, instead

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<v Speaker 1>of the first five or six years that we've been tracking.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great question. Like when we first started tracking wedgies,

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<v Speaker 2>we were like 50 is the magic number. Yeah. It

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<v Speaker 2>feels like we've had wedgieflation and maybe 60 is the

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<v Speaker 2>magic number now trying to get to it for a season.

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<v Speaker 2>But 50 is so beautiful to see. And wow, just

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper flag four career wedgies in 80 career games. That's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be like the fastest rate ever. I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to see a stat on the bottom of a

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<v Speaker 2>Mavericks broadcast that says, first teenager with four wedgies before

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<v Speaker 2>turning 20 years old or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got to be. Got to be. One every 20 games? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of like what our wedgie rate is right now. Excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of excellent things, because you said the word excellent,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm segwaying from that. The Lakers-Hawks game was pretty excellent,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were there too. yesterday in attendance Luka Doncic

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<v Speaker 1>doing his thing as always 32 points 8 rebounds 10

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<v Speaker 1>assists the Lakers have won six in a row Trey

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<v Speaker 1>where do you want to start with this game.

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<v Speaker 2>This was an excellent game and it wasn't necessarily looking

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<v Speaker 2>like that early on Lakers get out to a 20

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<v Speaker 2>point lead in the first half Hawks are bricking away

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<v Speaker 2>from three turning the ball over but Atlanta kept with

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<v Speaker 2>it finally started making some shots shot pretty well actually

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<v Speaker 2>quarters two three and four made it a game And

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty weird that Luka Doncic can go for 32 points,

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<v Speaker 2>10 assists, 8 rebounds, 5 steals, 2 blocks, shoot 50%

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<v Speaker 2>from the field and be like, well, down game. Down

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<v Speaker 2>game for Luka Doncic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, felt kind of quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of what it is right now. No Reeves last

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<v Speaker 2>night for the Lakers. No Quentin Grimes either. Those are

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<v Speaker 2>two guys who are going to handle the ball alongside

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<v Speaker 2>Luka when they're all healthy. But it didn't really matter

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<v Speaker 2>because Luka can still just dial up a wide open

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<v Speaker 2>shot for himself or for his teammates basically whenever. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of times the Hawks are putting two

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<v Speaker 2>on the ball or going to double him when he

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<v Speaker 2>like picks up his dribble or starts to turn his back.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll send somebody rushing at him. But Luka got off

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<v Speaker 2>the ball pretty early, trusted his teammates, turned into those

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<v Speaker 2>10 assists. According to the NBA.com tracking data, he had

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<v Speaker 2>23 potential assists. They only credit him with two secondary assists,

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<v Speaker 2>but it felt like more when he would get off

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<v Speaker 2>the ball to maybe a Mamu and he would kick

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<v Speaker 2>it to somebody else. It was just impressive offense from

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<v Speaker 2>Luka Doncic on a night when he didn't totally have

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<v Speaker 2>it the way he's had it so far this season,

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<v Speaker 2>specifically with his jump shot, only three of 11 from three.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got to say, I knew it in pregame.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't have his touch. He was shooting his 60

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<v Speaker 2>foot high corner threes. Couldn't make a single one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>He missed a few half court shots before finally knocking

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<v Speaker 2>one down. This is like the level Luka has risen to.

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<v Speaker 2>is when he's having games like this, you're like, ooh, down.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, his scoring average is under 40 points per

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<v Speaker 2>game right now, but the way he was playing last

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<v Speaker 2>night really empowered the secondary creators, I thought, on the Lakers. Mamou,

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<v Speaker 2>23 points, five threes, just shooting the ball very confidently,

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<v Speaker 2>making really good drive versus shoot decisions, a good ball

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<v Speaker 2>mover as well. I think this guy is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the next Kelly Olenek in our lives, where we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be talking about him For years and years,

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<v Speaker 2>even when he's a little bit past his prime, we're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he could help a team. Some team could pick him

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<v Speaker 2>up for a couple of second round picks. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 2>for that. Kessler, 21 points and 10 rebounds in his

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<v Speaker 2>homecoming to Atlanta. And another local product, Colin Sexton, 18

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<v Speaker 2>points and six assists. I thought Mamu and Sexton in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>Sexton in the first half, Mamu more so in the

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<v Speaker 2>second half. They just took turns being the second guy

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<v Speaker 2>for the Lakers on a night when they didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>their normal second guy in Austin Reeves. Really, really impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Lakers supporting staff. Very, very good. The ones

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned there. Mamou and Colin Sexton really, really stood

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<v Speaker 1>out in this one, especially because Austin Reeves is that

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<v Speaker 1>engine to get the bench going quite often. And with

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<v Speaker 1>him out with an illness, you really relied on Colin Sexton.

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<v Speaker 1>And in that second quarter, he was so, so good.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just, hey, I'm getting the bench going. He

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<v Speaker 1>was also getting Walker Kessler going, the connection there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>two local guys there. as it was talked about plenty

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<v Speaker 1>on the broadcast. Did you see Chad Kessler? Um, Walker

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<v Speaker 1>Kessler's dad, because he is a local guy. And we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about Chad Kessler. He's a local basketballer, played at UGA.

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<v Speaker 1>No Chad in the house?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, Chad had to be there. I had

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<v Speaker 2>to imagine he was there. I did see some guys

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<v Speaker 2>taller than me. Any of them could have been Chad Kessler.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know him that well. I don't have it

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<v Speaker 2>locked out exactly what he looks like. But Yacht Rock

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<v Speaker 2>Review was there.

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<v Speaker 1>They played at halftime.

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<v Speaker 2>And I saw him coming down. I saw a cool

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<v Speaker 2>guy from Yacht Rock Review coming down the escalator.

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<v Speaker 1>Like an aviator guy?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that?

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<v Speaker 1>Aviator guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. I was like, that looks like the guy from

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<v Speaker 2>Yacht Rock Review. He came a little further down, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was him. Yeah, they still got it, man.

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<v Speaker 1>They still got it. They still got it. He even

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<v Speaker 1>did an in-game interview. What, really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got mad jokes.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like it was great on the broadcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a solid broadcast, and the Lakers were absolutely solid.

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<v Speaker 1>Just Mamou... You mentioned him as a guy who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be around for a long time. This was his

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<v Speaker 1>best game as a Laker. Oh, yeah. There's trailing threes

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<v Speaker 1>where you're in transition and just give it to him. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>Luka generating so much gravity around him. Find the Mamu,

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<v Speaker 1>who is so, so good. 23 points, eight boards. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't get better than that. Colin Sexton really was

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<v Speaker 1>the Austin Reeves in this game. He was just, you

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<v Speaker 1>are the guy. And the question coming into this season,

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<v Speaker 1>are they deep enough? And those guys came through, and

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<v Speaker 1>they obviously were on this one. Other side, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you about the Hawks' depth. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about their bench unit now that CJ McCollum has

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<v Speaker 1>been inserted there? I felt like everybody was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>taking their turns, and it wasn't really McCollum setting guys up.

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<v Speaker 1>But in your eyes, is it a good move? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think about the Hawks' support bench now? I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's actually good for CJ McCollum to come

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<v Speaker 2>off the bench. He had a slow start in this one.

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<v Speaker 2>He could barely catch the ball, was butterfingers for the

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<v Speaker 2>first quarter, but that's just kind of excuse me how

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<v Speaker 2>it was for the hawks to begin uh the first

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<v Speaker 2>quarter as the game went on he got untracked finished

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<v Speaker 2>with 21 points four assists hit three threes eight of

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<v Speaker 2>15 from the field i think aaron wiggins has been

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<v Speaker 2>incredible for the hawks he ended up with 15 points

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<v Speaker 2>he's got to be a candidate for seventh man of

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<v Speaker 2>the year so far he ain't quite their sixth man

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<v Speaker 2>but he showed up in the clutch in fourth quarters

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<v Speaker 2>for them time after time and he was good again

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<v Speaker 2>last night so i think uh I just think the

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<v Speaker 2>balance of having somebody reliable shot creator wise for CJ

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<v Speaker 2>McCollum has been good for the Hawks. But what ended

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<v Speaker 2>up doing them in last night was just a lack

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<v Speaker 2>of execution. It was rough in the first quarter and

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<v Speaker 2>then in the fourth quarter as well. 20 turnovers for

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<v Speaker 2>the Hawks and so many of them were silly ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Three times they had the ball stolen on an inbounds pass.

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<v Speaker 2>And the key sequence, Lakers are up four with two minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>30 seconds left. Luka puts an incredible move on Dyson Daniels,

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<v Speaker 2>a step through from almost the free throw line finishes.

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<v Speaker 2>with the righty layup, Lakers are up six. And then

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<v Speaker 2>Zaire Williams steals a pass from Jalen Johnson, turns into

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<v Speaker 2>an instant dunk LA now up eight with all the

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<v Speaker 2>momentum in the world. And that's when fans started heading

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<v Speaker 2>for the stands while leaving the stands, they were already in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Too many turnovers, no doubt for the Atlanta Hawks.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you felt this being in the arena,

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<v Speaker 1>but it felt like the Hawks kind of had Luca

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<v Speaker 1>fever in that they were a little bit too fast

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<v Speaker 1>with the ball or a little bit trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>things on their own at some point, like Lou Dort,

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<v Speaker 1>is such a veteran guy. You don't need to get

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<v Speaker 1>in your dribble package and turn the ball over. Just

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<v Speaker 1>way too many. 19 for them. When it's a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good team at conserving the ball and not turning it over,

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<v Speaker 1>Nikhil Alexander-Walker is good at that. They don't usually do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I don't know if it was Luka fever.

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<v Speaker 1>But it kind of just felt like, well, the story

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<v Speaker 1>of the NBA is here in the arena, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just making a little too much out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was just too many of those possessions. And

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<v Speaker 1>then they were behind, and they had to come back,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did. But they just couldn't execute, as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>in the last couple minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Hawks were basically playing from behind from the first

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<v Speaker 2>quarter on. But the Lakers are pretty good at forcing turnovers.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're necessarily a good defense. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're 18th right now. in defensive rating, but they are

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<v Speaker 2>a disruptive defense. They're second in the league in forcing turnovers,

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<v Speaker 2>turnover rate for their opponents. This is the fourth time

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<v Speaker 2>in 12 games that LA has forced 20 or more turnovers.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's the second time this season that Luka has

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<v Speaker 2>had five steals, which ties his career high. Also had

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of blocks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess like if a guy's going up for a

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<v Speaker 2>shot and you strip it low, I guess that's a block.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Carmelo Anthony style block. That style defense doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily work as well in the playoffs when teams are

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<v Speaker 2>more conservative with the ball, more concerned about ball security.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a long time from now. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a smart way for the Lakers to play defense,

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<v Speaker 2>be active, get in the passing lanes. I think Luka

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<v Speaker 2>contributing on that end, at least taking some assignments like

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<v Speaker 2>you're seeing him in the defensive stance more and more

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<v Speaker 2>than you ever did.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's definitely good.

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<v Speaker 2>Able to be a playmaker, sort of like Larry Bird.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember my dad always telling me, he's like, Larry

0:11:40.190 --> 0:11:42.290
<v Speaker 2>Bird was very slow, but he's got a very fast brain.

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<v Speaker 2>So he'd be able to get in the passing lanes,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what you're seeing from Luka. He's given an

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<v Speaker 2>effort on that side. They're getting defense turned to offense,

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<v Speaker 2>and that only makes their offense even better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very solid throughout their lineup. Their other deficiency can

0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:01.270
<v Speaker 1>be size, and that isn't a problem against the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>Hawks in general. Although on Yakon Kong, he was doing

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<v Speaker 1>his thing. He was decent. But the size issue wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>an issue yesterday. Overall, got off to a great start

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<v Speaker 1>again with Luka. It felt like a quiet game. It did.

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<v Speaker 1>But were people in the stands yearning for more Luka?

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<v Speaker 1>Were they looking for him to get those shots off

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<v Speaker 1>that you know he can get? But I agree. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't feel like he had the flow. Maybe it's because

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<v Speaker 1>I watched your Instagram video that you took. From the

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<v Speaker 1>floor where he's trying to shoot the 60-foot-in-the-air shots from

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<v Speaker 1>the corner. He was also getting doubled, as we said.

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<v Speaker 1>But people in the audience or in the crowd thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go, Luka. I mean, that's what I'm here for

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<v Speaker 1>in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, I'll give a credit to all the

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers fans who were in attendance. They've converted their LeBron

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<v Speaker 2>James jerseys to Luka Doncic jerseys like that. Like last year,

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<v Speaker 2>you go see the Lakers play in Atlanta, 23 everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>This time it's 77. everywhere, and you can see exactly why.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Lucas still had, like, highlight plays. Like, he's

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<v Speaker 2>hitting ridiculous one-foot, 20-footer plays. step back leaners, you know,

0:13:06.860 --> 0:13:09.740
<v Speaker 2>he's still facing down a guy and just pulling a

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<v Speaker 2>three right in your face. At one point he shot

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<v Speaker 2>a logo three, probably 40 feet in the air for

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<v Speaker 2>no reason. So, I mean, he's still doing silly stuff

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<v Speaker 2>out there, but yeah, I don't know. It felt like

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<v Speaker 2>a slow game for Luca. And then you look up

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<v Speaker 2>in the fourth quarter, he's got 32. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's still an outside shot that he gets the 40

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<v Speaker 2>if things would have transpired in a slightly different way.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought the Hawks did a good job.

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<v Speaker 2>To mitigate what he's been doing as much as they could,

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<v Speaker 2>and he still ends up with basically a 30-point triple-double

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<v Speaker 2>on 50% shooting. The guy's just silly.

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<v Speaker 1>He is. Dyson Daniels getting the number one responsibility for

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<v Speaker 1>guarding him and doing a decent job. One other thing

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<v Speaker 1>that stands out to me, just as a last note

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<v Speaker 1>for me, Dyson Daniels and the way or where he

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<v Speaker 1>shoots his threes from, it's always several feet from behind

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<v Speaker 1>the line for a guy who's I don't know, it's 10%, 12%

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<v Speaker 1>from three-point land this season. It's just remarkable to me

0:14:03.270 --> 0:14:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that he isn't at the line, but he literally lined

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<v Speaker 1>it up and hit it yesterday. It's literally just, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter the possession or if he's got plenty of space,

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<v Speaker 1>he's always lining up from behind the line, like four feet.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm always watching that because it's always interesting. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>I lined up and hit it and doing a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of things to help out the Atlanta Hawks, but No

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<v Speaker 1>W there. All right, let's move on to Pacers-Mavs, where

0:14:29.650 --> 0:14:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Cooper Flagg was. Cooper Flagg, man, dropped 43 to lift

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<v Speaker 1>the Mavs past the Pacers by three. It's the fifth

0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.900
<v Speaker 1>40-point game of Cooper Flagg's career. Trey, what did you

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<v Speaker 1>take away from this game? He's good.

0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Cooper Flagg is awesome. He is in such great control

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<v Speaker 2>of his body and of... the way that he wants

0:14:52.870 --> 0:14:54.890
<v Speaker 2>to attack. He was getting to his middie down the stretch,

0:14:54.910 --> 0:14:57.220
<v Speaker 2>which has become so reliable when Dallas needs a bucket.

0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.700
<v Speaker 2>He made two jumpers, uh, in the final two minutes here,

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<v Speaker 2>finished five of six from the mid range and just

0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.750
<v Speaker 2>buried Indiana down the stretch. Went three of six from

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<v Speaker 2>three point line as well. Back to back games with three,

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<v Speaker 2>three pointers. Like he's still under 30% for the season,

0:15:13.230 --> 0:15:15.840
<v Speaker 2>but if this guy ever Extends his range out to

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<v Speaker 2>the three-point line the way he's mastered the in-between game

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<v Speaker 2>this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch out.

0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.630
<v Speaker 2>His free throw rates are way up. The rate that

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to the line is way up. I like

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<v Speaker 2>to see the stat that he's the second teenager ever

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<v Speaker 2>with a 40.10 rebound, five assist game. And I love

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<v Speaker 2>to see that it wasn't LeBron James, who was the

0:15:34.370 --> 0:15:36.230
<v Speaker 2>other team that did it. Kevin Durant, don't forget, he

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<v Speaker 2>was a great teenager once upon a time. Apparently he's

0:15:39.410 --> 0:15:42.310
<v Speaker 2>fueled by peanut butter and jellies. We're seeing him eating

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<v Speaker 2>sandwiches on the sideline, which is just hilarious to see

0:15:46.100 --> 0:15:48.400
<v Speaker 2>a guy chowing down on a sandwich and then going on,

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<v Speaker 2>lighting things up on the court. They traded a guy

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<v Speaker 2>for health concerns in Luka Dacic, but now they're feeding

0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.960
<v Speaker 2>this man down the stretch. My main concern, though, with

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper was he just kept losing Aaron Neesmith in the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter. In the last two minutes, I was getting

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<v Speaker 2>flashbacks to watching Nick's Pacers game one of the conference

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<v Speaker 2>finals when we were in New York at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>He had six threes in those last three minutes. Last night,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a three-point foul by Cooper, then a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of threes in the last minute and a half for Neesmith.

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<v Speaker 2>As the Pacers just kept the game going, kept the

0:16:21.100 --> 0:16:23.500
<v Speaker 2>game going. He also had a good look down three

0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.860
<v Speaker 2>with six seconds left. Finally missed it, but it was

0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:30.900
<v Speaker 2>like Cooper lost him. Najee Marshall lost him. PJ Washington

0:16:30.940 --> 0:16:32.740
<v Speaker 2>lost him. I'm like, this is the only guy out

0:16:32.780 --> 0:16:35.350
<v Speaker 2>here who's hitting threes. How is he getting so wide open?

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't matter though. Cooper flag. He makes plays defensively. He

0:16:39.110 --> 0:16:41.810
<v Speaker 2>makes plays offensively. He's become one of the best players

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<v Speaker 2>in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The mid range for Cooper flag is his go-to.

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<v Speaker 1>That's his, move at any point. The stats are so good.

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<v Speaker 1>You threw some out there. He's 59.2% on attempts from

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<v Speaker 1>10 to 19 feet, cornambia.com. So that's, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're near 60% from that far away, that's, it's your go-to,

0:17:04.970 --> 0:17:07.700
<v Speaker 1>you're just too good and you're too big. Um, cause

0:17:07.740 --> 0:17:11.960
<v Speaker 1>he's yet totally in control of his body. Um, that's just,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just a great stat because if you watch him

0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.060
<v Speaker 1>He literally can get there any time, and he's really

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<v Speaker 1>good in the clutch, too. 11 of 13 shooting in

0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:26.020
<v Speaker 1>clutch situations. Wow. That is a very, very good number.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love how, even though he has a bad

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<v Speaker 1>first half at times, he turns it on in the

0:17:30.670 --> 0:17:33.290
<v Speaker 1>second half. That seems to be a thing going on

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<v Speaker 1>with Cooper recently at 30 in the second half of

0:17:35.850 --> 0:17:39.430
<v Speaker 1>this one because he started kind of slow, just 13

0:17:39.430 --> 0:17:42.409
<v Speaker 1>for him to start. He played with Kyrie Irving, who

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<v Speaker 1>was playing in his first back-to-back, in both ends of

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<v Speaker 1>a back-to-back for over two years because of surgery. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you find Cooper being good with this Kyrie elevation of

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<v Speaker 1>back to who he was? Does that mean it's more

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<v Speaker 1>likely that Kyrie Irving isn't traded, do you think? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that something, or is that just... totally up to Masai

0:18:09.380 --> 0:18:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Ujiri and where they're deciding to go like does this

0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.590
<v Speaker 1>Kyrie's play factor into it at all because he is

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<v Speaker 1>healthy of course.

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<v Speaker 2>It does uh and his play and the Maverick success

0:18:20.410 --> 0:18:22.629
<v Speaker 2>is all part and parcel together and that's something that

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<v Speaker 2>Masai is going to have to weigh in the next

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<v Speaker 2>three months as we get to the trade deadline there's

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<v Speaker 2>no rush to do it now obviously they're playing so

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<v Speaker 2>well Kyrie is healthy the guy is just an all-time

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<v Speaker 2>great running mate he's been the number two to LeBron, KD, Luka,

0:18:36.420 --> 0:18:38.780
<v Speaker 2>and now Cooper. And every time you're like, oh, perfect

0:18:38.820 --> 0:18:41.219
<v Speaker 2>compliment to that guy because he really is. He can

0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.040
<v Speaker 2>play off the ball. He can play on the ball.

0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.350
<v Speaker 2>When the number one goes to the bench, he becomes

0:18:46.390 --> 0:18:48.609
<v Speaker 2>the number one and lights it up. His game is

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<v Speaker 2>going to age perfectly. It's almost like I want the

0:18:52.730 --> 0:18:54.670
<v Speaker 2>Mavericks to try and add to their team. You see

0:18:54.710 --> 0:18:56.619
<v Speaker 2>Cooper playing the way he is. You see the pairing

0:18:56.650 --> 0:18:59.960
<v Speaker 2>with Kyrie Irving. You see the defensive potential of this team,

0:19:00.020 --> 0:19:02.230
<v Speaker 2>all their big guys playing The problem is that they've

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<v Speaker 2>traded so much to build the team around Luka Doncic

0:19:04.630 --> 0:19:07.110
<v Speaker 2>that they don't have a lot to use to add

0:19:07.190 --> 0:19:10.649
<v Speaker 2>to this version of the team right now because, look,

0:19:10.850 --> 0:19:12.570
<v Speaker 2>we kind of thought the Thunder would maybe struggle when

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<v Speaker 2>all their guys went down.

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<v Speaker 1>They haven't.

0:19:14.190 --> 0:19:17.340
<v Speaker 2>The Spurs are obviously rolling here. The Lakers are rolling

0:19:17.660 --> 0:19:20.120
<v Speaker 2>as well. The Warriors look better than expected. The West

0:19:20.180 --> 0:19:23.379
<v Speaker 2>in general is better, Mavericks included. I don't know where

0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.119
<v Speaker 2>that leaves them necessarily, but I think the pairing of

0:19:26.180 --> 0:19:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Cooper and Kyrie at least has to pause trade considerations

0:19:29.740 --> 0:19:32.659
<v Speaker 2>for Kyrie Irving, and we'll revisit it, you know, as

0:19:33.260 --> 0:19:35.300
<v Speaker 2>we get closer and closer to February. We'll see how

0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.070
<v Speaker 2>injuries stack up on other teams, and we'll see how

0:19:38.109 --> 0:19:41.189
<v Speaker 2>the Mavericks continue to fare in the Western Conference. But

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<v Speaker 2>right now, they got to keep these two rolling together.

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<v Speaker 1>But they didn't give up that much for Luka in

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<v Speaker 1>that it was just a pick. And Anthony Davis, I'm not.

0:19:49.170 --> 0:19:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Looking right now at that. picks for like P.J. Washington

0:19:52.260 --> 0:19:54.200
<v Speaker 2>and Daniel Gafford. Those are the ones that they already

0:19:54.220 --> 0:19:56.340
<v Speaker 2>spent picks on. Kyrie Irving included. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for the talk to be around Kyrie

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<v Speaker 1>come January and February. I just can't wait because it's

0:20:05.790 --> 0:20:08.230
<v Speaker 1>like you can go both ways on it in how

0:20:08.250 --> 0:20:11.139
<v Speaker 1>you feel about it because Kyrie there for the rest

0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.760
<v Speaker 1>of his career definitely makes sense to see how they grow,

0:20:14.940 --> 0:20:17.630
<v Speaker 1>as you said. I mean, they're so deep. You add

0:20:17.670 --> 0:20:19.590
<v Speaker 1>in a Walter Clayton off waivers.

0:20:19.609 --> 0:20:20.250
<v Speaker 2>Hey, he's playing good.

0:20:20.350 --> 0:20:23.350
<v Speaker 1>He's playing good. He's so good. And he's playing over

0:20:23.410 --> 0:20:25.510
<v Speaker 1>Marcus Sasser, who I thought would be their backup point

0:20:25.530 --> 0:20:27.790
<v Speaker 1>guard that they grabbed from Detroit. Now they're sort of deep.

0:20:27.850 --> 0:20:29.869
<v Speaker 1>It is an interesting team going up to the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 1>To the Pacers side and talking about their depth. Now,

0:20:33.750 --> 0:20:38.260
<v Speaker 1>they are 3-8. It feels terrible. But you bring up

0:20:38.460 --> 0:20:42.140
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Neesmith. Looking like that guy who splashed three after

0:20:42.180 --> 0:20:44.139
<v Speaker 1>three in game one against the New York Knicks in

0:20:44.170 --> 0:20:46.910
<v Speaker 1>that playoffs. Four threes, the most of his season so

0:20:46.970 --> 0:20:50.390
<v Speaker 1>far in this game. Vita Zubat's looking all right. Seven

0:20:50.410 --> 0:20:54.770
<v Speaker 1>guys in double digits. Their point guard situation getting a

0:20:54.890 --> 0:20:58.780
<v Speaker 1>tiny bit better, not incredibly better. They're still missing Tyrese Halliburton,

0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:01.420
<v Speaker 1>but TJ McConnell back for his second game so far

0:21:01.460 --> 0:21:03.440
<v Speaker 1>this season. Not playing a lot as they slow play

0:21:03.460 --> 0:21:06.459
<v Speaker 1>his hamstring injury. Ben Shepard also out. I say all

0:21:06.500 --> 0:21:10.119
<v Speaker 1>that to ask... they're now three and eight. You super

0:21:10.180 --> 0:21:13.320
<v Speaker 1>locked them in for an over at 43 and a half.

0:21:13.700 --> 0:21:15.219
<v Speaker 1>I know it sounds way far off, but are you

0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:18.690
<v Speaker 1>more optimistic now about the Pacers? Just how they look? No,

0:21:18.770 --> 0:21:19.169
<v Speaker 1>not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>They're only, they need Halliburton back. We saw, we saw

0:21:22.330 --> 0:21:25.310
<v Speaker 2>this team last year. I know Halliburton team led by

0:21:25.350 --> 0:21:29.150
<v Speaker 2>Pascal Siakam and they won 19 games. That's, They ran

0:21:29.190 --> 0:21:31.730
<v Speaker 2>back to the exact same team, adding Kelly Oubre, and

0:21:31.770 --> 0:21:32.590
<v Speaker 2>now you got Zubats.

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<v Speaker 1>Zubats.

0:21:32.930 --> 0:21:34.370
<v Speaker 2>Was out for a little bit, but now he's back.

0:21:34.590 --> 0:21:37.650
<v Speaker 2>That's not enough to get to 44 wins or whatever

0:21:37.670 --> 0:21:39.540
<v Speaker 2>it needs to be. I think they'll play at a

0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:42.800
<v Speaker 2>44-plus win pace when Halliburton's healthy, but he's the engine

0:21:42.859 --> 0:21:45.240
<v Speaker 2>for this team. He's the reason they ever look special.

0:21:45.260 --> 0:21:49.900
<v Speaker 1>All right, moving on to a team people have been

0:21:49.980 --> 0:21:53.350
<v Speaker 1>questioning recently and a team that people will always question,

0:21:53.369 --> 0:21:56.369
<v Speaker 1>the Hornets and the Cavs. Hornets took care of business

0:21:56.590 --> 0:21:59.490
<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland. The Cleveland Cavaliers are now Five and six,

0:21:59.770 --> 0:22:02.870
<v Speaker 1>or not in Cleveland, I shouldn't say, in Charlotte. Cavs

0:22:02.890 --> 0:22:05.869
<v Speaker 1>are five and six. Grayson Allen, 27. Nasri, 25. The

0:22:05.890 --> 0:22:08.550
<v Speaker 1>Hornets snapped their sixth game losing streak. What do you

0:22:08.570 --> 0:22:09.310
<v Speaker 1>get from this one, Trey?

0:22:09.330 --> 0:22:11.630
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was my favorite result of the night. It's

0:22:11.650 --> 0:22:13.530
<v Speaker 2>a little Tass, a little Trey, a little scotch, a

0:22:13.570 --> 0:22:16.730
<v Speaker 2>little soda. On yesterday's show, I said the way the

0:22:16.750 --> 0:22:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Hornets are going to score is if they get crazy

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:22.200
<v Speaker 2>hot from three-point land. They went 23 of 46 last night.

0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:26.139
<v Speaker 2>Seven players hit threes for the Hornets, and all seven

0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:29.530
<v Speaker 2>of them hit at least two Six for Grayson Allen,

0:22:29.750 --> 0:22:33.930
<v Speaker 2>four for Nasri. The guy was unstoppable, making plays and scoring.

0:22:34.170 --> 0:22:36.170
<v Speaker 2>And then three other players with three, two other players

0:22:36.210 --> 0:22:42.710
<v Speaker 2>with two. They were 28.8% coming into last night's game, 38.8%

0:22:42.710 --> 0:22:45.100
<v Speaker 2>after the win. They raised their three-point shooting percentage by

0:22:45.220 --> 0:22:48.800
<v Speaker 2>two whole percentage points just from going 50% last night.

0:22:49.180 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 2>On the other side of things, the task side of things, oh,

0:22:51.859 --> 0:22:56.199
<v Speaker 2>I love a dispiriting Cavaliers loss tonight. You know, the

0:22:56.200 --> 0:23:00.100
<v Speaker 2>12 point win doesn't look so bad. 124, 112 is

0:23:00.140 --> 0:23:02.899
<v Speaker 2>the final score, but the Hornets led by 33. And

0:23:02.940 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 2>it was like the end of the bench guys that

0:23:04.740 --> 0:23:07.270
<v Speaker 2>brought Cleveland back in this one. So I saw 124,

0:23:07.260 --> 0:23:09.679
<v Speaker 2>112 on my phone. I said, I can't wait to

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:11.929
<v Speaker 2>hear the disappointed dad's take.

0:23:12.930 --> 0:23:15.890
<v Speaker 1>Let me be optimistic about the Charlotte Hornets for a second,

0:23:15.910 --> 0:23:20.590
<v Speaker 1>because I'm also tired of the Charlotte Hornets hate out there.

0:23:21.550 --> 0:23:23.790
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it at all. The Cavs hate is cool.

0:23:24.420 --> 0:23:26.879
<v Speaker 1>But I like what the Charlotte Horns have done in

0:23:27.380 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 1>that they've picked a direction. They were 3-1 to start

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:31.740
<v Speaker 1>the season. There was no hate out there at all.

0:23:32.810 --> 0:23:35.330
<v Speaker 1>It took a six-game losing streak, and now everybody raining

0:23:35.390 --> 0:23:39.070
<v Speaker 1>down on them. Yeah, we knew their wide-open threes would

0:23:39.090 --> 0:23:42.910
<v Speaker 1>start falling. They have incredible injuries that they've dealt with

0:23:43.210 --> 0:23:49.690
<v Speaker 1>this season. Even when they were 3-1, Amidst that six-game

0:23:49.730 --> 0:23:53.190
<v Speaker 1>losing streak, back comes Kobe White, and he looks absolutely

0:23:53.290 --> 0:23:56.609
<v Speaker 1>terrible to start his season. He has this entire season.

0:23:56.850 --> 0:23:59.590
<v Speaker 1>Konka Nippel basically hasn't played a minute. Then they lose

0:23:59.630 --> 0:24:05.990
<v Speaker 1>Moussa Diabate. They essentially have four starters out because Kobe

0:24:06.010 --> 0:24:07.870
<v Speaker 1>White doesn't look like a starter out there, even though

0:24:07.910 --> 0:24:10.230
<v Speaker 1>he is playing with Konka Nippel. Brandon Miller not playing.

0:24:10.970 --> 0:24:12.030
<v Speaker 1>And Moussa Diabate out.

0:24:12.570 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they had the best— lineup in the league

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 2>last year, right? Like their starters last year rampaged through

0:24:18.100 --> 0:24:19.860
<v Speaker 2>the second half of the season. And like you're saying,

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 2>literally all those guys are gone now.

0:24:22.020 --> 0:24:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But the way they played and the way Nas

0:24:24.420 --> 0:24:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Reed is part of this spirit and locker room, I'm

0:24:30.220 --> 0:24:32.500
<v Speaker 1>all for it. I have no problem with them. I

0:24:32.540 --> 0:24:35.060
<v Speaker 1>hate the Nas Reed hate. It doesn't make any sense

0:24:35.100 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to me. I hate the hate. I hate the hate

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.619
<v Speaker 1>that they say, well, Nas Reed just doesn't want to

0:24:39.660 --> 0:24:41.290
<v Speaker 1>be there. I don't buy it. I'm always going to

0:24:41.330 --> 0:24:45.530
<v Speaker 1>back a guy who's undrafted. and who is his own motor.

0:24:45.609 --> 0:24:47.450
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, on this night, it's never going to look

0:24:47.550 --> 0:24:51.030
<v Speaker 1>this great with Nas Reed. He destroyed anybody. He destroyed

0:24:51.090 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Evan Mobley. He'll destroy Mario Hazonia going at both of them.

0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:58.740
<v Speaker 1>And then the James Harden in the post scenario, which

0:24:58.820 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 1>is one of my favorite things to watch in the NBA,

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.300
<v Speaker 1>James Harden guarding somebody in a post. There used to

0:25:04.340 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 1>be the common thing to say, James Harden can guard

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.419
<v Speaker 1>people in the post because he's really strong. He literally

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.180
<v Speaker 1>will not move his feet. in the post. Anybody can

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>spin past him. And in this situation, it was Nas Reed.

0:25:16.340 --> 0:25:19.270
<v Speaker 1>I just don't get the Nas Reed hate. He said

0:25:19.310 --> 0:25:22.550
<v Speaker 1>post-game in his post-game interview, how is the relationship with

0:25:22.590 --> 0:25:26.370
<v Speaker 1>you and Charles Lee, your head coach, which reportedly there

0:25:26.410 --> 0:25:29.429
<v Speaker 1>was some hate because Charles Lee sat him for one

0:25:29.470 --> 0:25:33.010
<v Speaker 1>second half. Apparently they're cool. And I totally buy that.

0:25:33.030 --> 0:25:35.510
<v Speaker 1>I totally buy everything. I don't like this Chris Finch

0:25:35.550 --> 0:25:38.740
<v Speaker 1>stuff from Minnesota saying that there was Julius Randle and

0:25:38.820 --> 0:25:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Nas Reed were in bad moods last season. I thought

0:25:43.260 --> 0:25:46.199
<v Speaker 1>that whole scenario was good in that they got to

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:51.510
<v Speaker 1>two conference finals. I'm just with the Charlotte Hornets' attitude

0:25:51.570 --> 0:25:56.609
<v Speaker 1>to trading both Ball and Miles Bridges for picks and

0:25:56.650 --> 0:26:00.470
<v Speaker 1>going an entirely different direction that, yes, last year was

0:26:00.530 --> 0:26:03.490
<v Speaker 1>their peak, but they have just been banging their head

0:26:03.540 --> 0:26:07.810
<v Speaker 1>against the wall. for several seasons that there just wasn't

0:26:07.850 --> 0:26:09.369
<v Speaker 1>any success. So I'm all for it.

0:26:09.830 --> 0:26:10.850
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I mean, they're not going to make the

0:26:10.869 --> 0:26:13.810
<v Speaker 2>playoffs this year, Tess. They're going to be worse. But

0:26:13.869 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 2>they didn't make the playoffs. Also true. Also true. But

0:26:19.130 --> 0:26:21.139
<v Speaker 2>they would be better if they had Lomelo. There's no

0:26:21.180 --> 0:26:24.340
<v Speaker 2>other way around it. And I mean, the age difference

0:26:24.380 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 2>between him and Brandon Miller is one year.

0:26:26.820 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.010
<v Speaker 2>The Hornets, like you're saying, have been bashing their heads.

0:26:29.070 --> 0:26:31.410
<v Speaker 2>They have had not much go right for them since

0:26:31.430 --> 0:26:32.630
<v Speaker 2>they came back to Charlotte.

0:26:32.710 --> 0:26:32.890
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:26:33.270 --> 0:26:36.209
<v Speaker 2>Last year was the most exciting time in Hornets history.

0:26:37.310 --> 0:26:39.590
<v Speaker 2>And they packed them up. They shipped them out and

0:26:39.609 --> 0:26:41.389
<v Speaker 2>took a step back. And then everybody got hurt to

0:26:41.410 --> 0:26:43.879
<v Speaker 2>start the season. So they look bad. They hit 50%

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.540
<v Speaker 2>of three last night. 23 threes. You're going to beat

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:47.239
<v Speaker 2>every team that way.

0:26:49.060 --> 0:26:52.100
<v Speaker 1>With the whole ball thing, he's there for six seasons.

0:26:52.619 --> 0:26:55.880
<v Speaker 1>You don't make the playoffs. You get picked. a pick

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:57.780
<v Speaker 1>in return, and you get a pick for Miles Bridges,

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.500
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a better direction. You just don't want

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:02.500
<v Speaker 1>to keep on doing the exact same thing over and

0:27:02.540 --> 0:27:04.180
<v Speaker 1>over and over again. I know it kind of hurts

0:27:04.220 --> 0:27:07.470
<v Speaker 1>for Charlotte fans, but you're going in a different direction.

0:27:07.550 --> 0:27:10.550
<v Speaker 1>And again, they did start 3-1. I do believe in

0:27:10.609 --> 0:27:13.909
<v Speaker 1>this team and the way they fight and scrap and

0:27:13.930 --> 0:27:16.590
<v Speaker 1>will turn this thing around. And yeah, they're not going

0:27:16.609 --> 0:27:20.020
<v Speaker 1>to be 500, but I do think they can beat

0:27:20.180 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 1>sub-500 teams and be a little bit of the Phoenix

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:26.030
<v Speaker 1>Suns of last year. So we'll see. But they could

0:27:26.050 --> 0:27:26.510
<v Speaker 1>have been.

0:27:26.369 --> 0:27:29.290
<v Speaker 2>The Charlotte Hornets of last year. The Charlotte Hornets of

0:27:29.330 --> 0:27:31.429
<v Speaker 2>last year were fun to watch and good. And on

0:27:31.490 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 2>the Ascension, they had a three-headed monster of Lomelo, Khan,

0:27:35.500 --> 0:27:40.020
<v Speaker 2>and Brandon Miller together. Those are like three good young

0:27:40.060 --> 0:27:42.300
<v Speaker 2>players that they could have had under control for years

0:27:42.340 --> 0:27:43.020
<v Speaker 2>and years and years.

0:27:44.530 --> 0:27:46.850
<v Speaker 1>I suppose there's a chance that they would have made

0:27:46.869 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs under them. I'm But Lonzo Ball, as your

0:27:50.100 --> 0:27:51.140
<v Speaker 1>number one guy, never worked.

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:51.980
<v Speaker 2>LaMelo Ball.

0:27:52.180 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, excuse me.

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 2>It worked last year. It did work last year. They

0:27:55.780 --> 0:27:57.360
<v Speaker 2>were bad to start the season, but then they were

0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:58.980
<v Speaker 2>on fire to end the season.

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:00.500
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they made it all the way into the

0:28:00.540 --> 0:28:05.030
<v Speaker 1>play and got hammered. So what is the answer? We're

0:28:05.050 --> 0:28:07.390
<v Speaker 1>just going to try it again and see what happens? Yeah.

0:28:07.950 --> 0:28:08.889
<v Speaker 1>It's building.

0:28:08.930 --> 0:28:11.330
<v Speaker 2>It's building. It's getting better. It's adding pieces. It's like

0:28:11.350 --> 0:28:12.490
<v Speaker 2>growing your team.

0:28:12.550 --> 0:28:16.629
<v Speaker 1>They added pieces by trading not Lonzo Ball, LaMelo Ball

0:28:16.690 --> 0:28:19.340
<v Speaker 1>for pick. And they traded Miles Bridges for a pick. Yes,

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:23.060
<v Speaker 1>it is. That's not a piece. Those aren't players. It

0:28:23.140 --> 0:28:25.619
<v Speaker 1>is a piece. It is a piece. It is increasing

0:28:25.700 --> 0:28:29.060
<v Speaker 1>who they are for these next several years. Again, they

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't do good these last six years. And I know

0:28:32.020 --> 0:28:34.300
<v Speaker 1>last year was the peak. And everybody liked them as

0:28:34.340 --> 0:28:36.580
<v Speaker 1>they went into the play-in. And they had a fight

0:28:37.820 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>against the Detroit Pistons and the Orlando Magic.

0:28:40.780 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Or.

0:28:41.450 --> 0:28:45.350
<v Speaker 1>Who did they beat in the first play-in game? Magic?

0:28:45.450 --> 0:28:46.050
<v Speaker 2>It was the Magic.

0:28:46.090 --> 0:28:47.530
<v Speaker 1>It was the Magic, and then they won their eighth

0:28:47.550 --> 0:28:52.450
<v Speaker 1>seed game. Yeah. So, yeah. Cool story. Anyway, moving on.

0:28:52.730 --> 0:28:54.230
<v Speaker 2>You didn't tell me anything about the Cavs.

0:28:54.930 --> 0:28:55.470
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's get to the Cavs.

0:28:55.490 --> 0:28:58.490
<v Speaker 2>This is the reason every jumper was open for the

0:28:58.670 --> 0:29:01.490
<v Speaker 2>Hornets last night. It was because the Cavs played zero defense.

0:29:02.150 --> 0:29:04.890
<v Speaker 2>These were wide-open looks. These were batting practice threes for

0:29:04.930 --> 0:29:08.130
<v Speaker 2>the majority of the night. Yeah, it's a classic Cavs thing.

0:29:08.230 --> 0:29:11.540
<v Speaker 2>They get up early, and then they just literally... It's

0:29:11.580 --> 0:29:13.220
<v Speaker 2>like they go to the bench and sit down. Because

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:18.140
<v Speaker 2>you're right. All these threes are open. I've been disappointed

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:20.610
<v Speaker 2>in Evan Mobley, who is such a good defensive player

0:29:20.770 --> 0:29:23.950
<v Speaker 2>in and of himself most of the time. But even now,

0:29:24.170 --> 0:29:26.430
<v Speaker 2>one-on-one situation, as I said, Nas Reed beating him or

0:29:26.470 --> 0:29:27.210
<v Speaker 2>as a help guy.

0:29:27.230 --> 0:29:30.650
<v Speaker 1>And it all trickles down. I know we made fun

0:29:30.690 --> 0:29:34.330
<v Speaker 1>of James Harden, but I think it's... He was brutal. Yeah.

0:29:34.370 --> 0:29:37.430
<v Speaker 1>Harden has been brutal and everybody talking, okay, you sign

0:29:37.470 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 1>an extension, but maybe... literally he has to run the

0:29:41.460 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>second unit. I think that's a fair conversation to have.

0:29:47.100 --> 0:29:50.710
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's not a horrendous team. It's still going

0:29:50.730 --> 0:29:53.969
<v Speaker 1>to be an okay team. But that's who they are. Yeah,

0:29:54.010 --> 0:29:55.010
<v Speaker 1>I've been disappointed.

0:29:55.030 --> 0:29:57.210
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. What a swerve here. I thought you were

0:29:57.230 --> 0:29:58.590
<v Speaker 2>going to come in and kill the Cavs. They were

0:29:58.630 --> 0:30:00.810
<v Speaker 2>getting beat by 30 by a Hornets team that can

0:30:00.830 --> 0:30:03.210
<v Speaker 2>barely score 90 points in a game. And now you're

0:30:03.230 --> 0:30:05.710
<v Speaker 2>telling me the Hornets are fine for the future. What

0:30:05.730 --> 0:30:06.230
<v Speaker 2>a curveball.

0:30:06.730 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, what do you mean? I'm not happy about the

0:30:08.820 --> 0:30:12.780
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Cavaliers. I'm tired after two weeks of talking about

0:30:12.820 --> 0:30:15.580
<v Speaker 1>the Cleveland Cavaliers. I super locked them as an over,

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 1>thinking that this was their backs against the wall. They'd

0:30:19.540 --> 0:30:20.740
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit like.

0:30:22.130 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Like me having to write my paper the next day. Like,

0:30:25.580 --> 0:30:28.020
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get it done overnight. And this was

0:30:28.060 --> 0:30:31.940
<v Speaker 1>sort of going to be their last effort with a

0:30:31.980 --> 0:30:36.220
<v Speaker 1>Donovan Mitchell, James Harden backcourt, and a Jared Allen, Evan

0:30:36.260 --> 0:30:41.590
<v Speaker 1>Mobley frontcourt. And that they would have the fight to

0:30:41.790 --> 0:30:45.190
<v Speaker 1>want to play defense more regularly. But as I said,

0:30:46.190 --> 0:30:50.070
<v Speaker 1>they're a three-quarter team. So when they go up double

0:30:50.090 --> 0:30:53.270
<v Speaker 1>digits in the first quarter, they can say, okay, I'm done. Um, they,

0:30:53.410 --> 0:30:57.300
<v Speaker 1>they don't, they don't have that scrap, uh, and maybe

0:30:57.340 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>it was watching Kenny Atkinson do pushups in the preseason

0:31:00.220 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 1>that also got me amped. I'm like, okay, everybody's going

0:31:02.380 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>to be riled up, but they're literally trying so many

0:31:05.820 --> 0:31:11.510
<v Speaker 1>different guys to get them that spirit, uh, on the bench. Um, they're,

0:31:11.590 --> 0:31:13.990
<v Speaker 1>they're literally trying, you know, Malik Thomas to, to get

0:31:14.010 --> 0:31:17.390
<v Speaker 1>them some effort out there. Riley Minix. I had to

0:31:17.410 --> 0:31:20.290
<v Speaker 1>look up that name last night. I saw a Riley

0:31:20.410 --> 0:31:23.610
<v Speaker 1>Minix getting minutes because they're all sort of lacking and

0:31:23.950 --> 0:31:26.470
<v Speaker 1>there's no excuse that Jared Allen was out of not

0:31:26.530 --> 0:31:28.950
<v Speaker 1>playing in this one. He was there, but the spirit

0:31:28.990 --> 0:31:31.410
<v Speaker 1>is not there. So yeah, I'm sorry. I don't have

0:31:31.430 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the spirit to make you excited about my Cavs day.

0:31:34.660 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Cause I, I'm, I'm just kind of, I'm kind of

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:40.660
<v Speaker 1>out on the Cleveland Cavaliers. I've had, I've had plenty.

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:43.980
<v Speaker 1>Tijon Salam was good for the Hornets though. Just wanted

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>to note that. Yeah, that's true. Hey, they won 44

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>games last year. Bad season. You've got to go in

0:31:50.740 --> 0:31:52.420
<v Speaker 1>the other direction. I agree.

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 2>When you win 44, when you hit your high point,

0:31:54.540 --> 0:31:56.660
<v Speaker 2>you've got to go back down. You've got to say, hey,

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 2>when are we ever going to get back to 44 wins?

0:31:59.900 --> 0:32:02.220
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've got to trade the 25-year-old guy. He's

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 2>too old.

0:32:02.940 --> 0:32:05.030
<v Speaker 1>LaMelo had a good run of not making the playoffs.

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.330
<v Speaker 1>It was a great run. It's time to move on.

0:32:07.370 --> 0:32:11.450
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen Brandon Miller in the playoffs either. I'm

0:32:11.490 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 2>just saying, LaMelo is very good, and they had him,

0:32:14.490 --> 0:32:17.750
<v Speaker 2>and he was beloved, and he was box office. Now

0:32:17.770 --> 0:32:19.650
<v Speaker 2>they don't, and they stink, and everybody's hurt.

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:26.150
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, listen, I do like the Charles Lee-led team and

0:32:26.190 --> 0:32:29.050
<v Speaker 1>their direction, and we shall see what happens with that team.

0:32:29.230 --> 0:32:32.530
<v Speaker 1>Moving on, Spurs Suns. No problems with this guy. Wemby

0:32:32.550 --> 0:32:36.020
<v Speaker 1>scoring 40 points in 25 minutes. That's not a lot

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>of minutes, but it's a lot of points. Spurs have

0:32:37.820 --> 0:32:40.940
<v Speaker 1>won nine straight. 40 points, 11 boards, nine blocks in

0:32:40.980 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>those 25 minutes, Trey.

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 2>We had Rob Mahoney on the show. last Wednesday, and

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.430
<v Speaker 2>he said, Wemby will be heard from in the MVP conversation,

0:32:48.850 --> 0:32:52.750
<v Speaker 2>and that night, Wemby went for 52-24 against Dallas, followed

0:32:52.770 --> 0:32:56.110
<v Speaker 2>that up with 30-14 in 26 minutes against the Kings,

0:32:56.130 --> 0:33:01.340
<v Speaker 2>29-24 minutes against the Blazers, and then last night, 40-11-9

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 2>in 25 minutes against the Suns. All of these are

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 2>blowout wins, not the craziest competition. Blazers have been playing

0:33:09.380 --> 0:33:13.190
<v Speaker 2>really well when he hung 29 on them, but You know,

0:33:13.510 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>the guy's just dominating right now. He's averaging 30 points,

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 2>12 rebounds, four assists, four and a half blocks. The

0:33:19.260 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 2>last player to average four or more blocks in a season,

0:33:21.620 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Dikembe Mutombo, back in 95, 96 with the Nuggets. This

0:33:26.460 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 2>was an incredible performance from Wemby.

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:29.500
<v Speaker 1>Maybe, I don't know.

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 2>He did just have 52 and 24. Is this the

0:33:31.540 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 2>most dominant performance he's had? I don't know. We talked

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 2>about Common Malawach, like frustrating Wemby during a preseason game.

0:33:39.810 --> 0:33:40.460
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was great.

0:33:40.570 --> 0:33:42.710
<v Speaker 2>And Wemby must have heard because he just took it

0:33:42.750 --> 0:33:45.870
<v Speaker 2>to this guy. Incredible highlights from Wemby in this one.

0:33:45.970 --> 0:33:49.070
<v Speaker 2>A finger roll from the free throw line. He blocks

0:33:49.130 --> 0:33:51.710
<v Speaker 2>Ryan Dunn at the rim one time and just shrugs

0:33:51.770 --> 0:33:53.770
<v Speaker 2>at him like, what do you think you're doing here?

0:33:53.790 --> 0:33:54.330
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was great.

0:33:54.900 --> 0:33:58.890
<v Speaker 2>The footwork was impressive. He had like a baseline shimmy

0:33:58.970 --> 0:34:01.490
<v Speaker 2>shake jumper that kind of looked like a Kevin Durant

0:34:01.590 --> 0:34:04.810
<v Speaker 2>mixed with Hakeem Olajuwon move. He had the crazy step

0:34:04.850 --> 0:34:07.900
<v Speaker 2>through in the lane as well. You also throw in,

0:34:07.910 --> 0:34:10.740
<v Speaker 2>he had nine dunks last night. He's up to 58

0:34:10.739 --> 0:34:11.820
<v Speaker 2>dunks in 11 games.

0:34:12.420 --> 0:34:13.300
<v Speaker 1>That's unreal.

0:34:13.620 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 2>He's taken his most ever shots at the rim with

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:20.540
<v Speaker 2>his lowest three point attempt rate of his career. He

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:23.310
<v Speaker 2>had a terrible game one. And since then he's completely

0:34:23.350 --> 0:34:24.090
<v Speaker 2>figured out offense.

0:34:24.770 --> 0:34:28.620
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think Kamon Malawach coming off the bench instead

0:34:28.660 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>of starting against Wemby was the move to continue what

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:36.060
<v Speaker 1>they're doing in Phoenix, but also to save him from

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.379
<v Speaker 1>having to battle Wemby. And then in that first quarter

0:34:39.420 --> 0:34:41.690
<v Speaker 1>when he got onto the floor, Wemby's still there and

0:34:41.730 --> 0:34:44.950
<v Speaker 1>Wemby was destroying him. And he turned it into the

0:34:44.989 --> 0:34:48.250
<v Speaker 1>second quarter. He's still destroying everybody. He got out of hand.

0:34:48.670 --> 0:34:51.630
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not sure if Victor Wemby has a go-to move.

0:34:52.330 --> 0:34:54.270
<v Speaker 1>It's not a dunk. That's not a go-to move. That's

0:34:54.310 --> 0:35:00.689
<v Speaker 1>not allowed. But right now he's simply, you know, adding

0:35:00.730 --> 0:35:03.110
<v Speaker 1>to that variety of what he does out there. And

0:35:03.150 --> 0:35:06.390
<v Speaker 1>then we will see if he needs that go-to move

0:35:06.489 --> 0:35:09.090
<v Speaker 1>in the postseason when we get there. But right now

0:35:09.290 --> 0:35:12.820
<v Speaker 1>it looks absolutely spectacular. And the Suns team is a

0:35:12.820 --> 0:35:16.020
<v Speaker 1>little too small for him in general. Oh, yeah. And

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:20.690
<v Speaker 1>that's why the Wemby vs. um, Malawach in the preseason

0:35:20.730 --> 0:35:23.230
<v Speaker 1>was kind of excited because Malawach is a big guy. Um,

0:35:24.250 --> 0:35:25.870
<v Speaker 1>and you should be able to battle him, but he's

0:35:25.910 --> 0:35:29.529
<v Speaker 1>not ready, uh, for Victor Wemby and Yama. No real

0:35:29.590 --> 0:35:30.509
<v Speaker 1>other notes from this one.

0:35:30.590 --> 0:35:33.839
<v Speaker 2>I just hope 30 and 25 minutes for Wemby and

0:35:34.660 --> 0:35:36.060
<v Speaker 2>worth every 30 of those points.

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.819
<v Speaker 1>It felt like, yeah, yeah. The way he, he, he

0:35:38.900 --> 0:35:41.580
<v Speaker 1>looked at the guy who, uh, takes a shot at him.

0:35:42.260 --> 0:35:44.779
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing, dude? Uh, I'm blocking everything. Nine

0:35:44.820 --> 0:35:48.890
<v Speaker 1>blocks near, nearly, nearly got that, uh, Like, is he,

0:35:48.989 --> 0:35:51.969
<v Speaker 1>when's his five by five coming this season? It's got

0:35:51.989 --> 0:35:53.850
<v Speaker 1>to happen sometime. He's done it before. He's got to

0:35:53.870 --> 0:35:56.170
<v Speaker 1>do it again at some point. All right, let's get

0:35:56.230 --> 0:36:00.790
<v Speaker 1>to one more quick one here. Pelicans and the Warriors,

0:36:01.110 --> 0:36:06.090
<v Speaker 1>who won by 50 points. The Warriors won by 50

0:36:06.090 --> 0:36:10.190
<v Speaker 1>and they have won eight straight. Similarly. Very efficient stuff

0:36:10.210 --> 0:36:13.970
<v Speaker 1>from their superstar. Curry, 25 points in 20 minutes. Pajemski

0:36:14.010 --> 0:36:18.089
<v Speaker 1>added 25. Yaxa Lindenberg added 23 on an efficient shooting night.

0:36:18.110 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>What do you get from this one, Trey?

0:36:19.940 --> 0:36:21.760
<v Speaker 2>I didn't spend much time with this one, Tess.

0:36:22.100 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I hear you.

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 2>A 51-point game. Not that interesting to me, but I

0:36:26.020 --> 0:36:29.580
<v Speaker 2>will say Charles Bassey has given the Warriors really, really

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.469
<v Speaker 2>good minutes. He had 12 points, 10 rebounds, and a

0:36:32.510 --> 0:36:34.790
<v Speaker 2>block last night. He's only playing like 12 minutes a

0:36:34.810 --> 0:36:38.270
<v Speaker 2>game this season, but 7 points, 6 boards, average and

0:36:38.290 --> 0:36:41.109
<v Speaker 2>a block. A good energy guy for them. A good

0:36:41.180 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 2>rotation find since they had to scramble with Kristaps Porzingis

0:36:44.739 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 2>not playing this season. He's played 112 minutes for the

0:36:47.340 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Warriors this season so far. They're a plus 55. He's

0:36:51.180 --> 0:36:54.490
<v Speaker 2>definitely helpful on that team. Al Horford was making plays.

0:36:54.870 --> 0:36:58.050
<v Speaker 2>Pelicans are a hilarious team. Lost four. Won four straight.

0:36:58.130 --> 0:37:00.670
<v Speaker 2>Now they lost three straight. Maybe they'll go the whole season.

0:37:00.910 --> 0:37:02.850
<v Speaker 1>Just streak, streak, streak, streak, streak, streak, streak. You end

0:37:02.910 --> 0:37:05.760
<v Speaker 1>up 41 and 41. Yeah, I think the most interesting

0:37:05.820 --> 0:37:08.320
<v Speaker 1>thing from this game was Derek Queen of the New

0:37:08.340 --> 0:37:13.150
<v Speaker 1>Orleans Pelicans taking some time out to literally walk around

0:37:13.650 --> 0:37:16.410
<v Speaker 1>the arena. You don't really see this too often. We're

0:37:16.430 --> 0:37:19.130
<v Speaker 1>going to show you here on YouTube where this was

0:37:19.170 --> 0:37:22.709
<v Speaker 1>shot by a fan just getting a video of Derek

0:37:22.770 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Queen literally taking a lap because he felt whatever he

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:30.779
<v Speaker 1>was feeling. He felt the best way. to come to

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 1>terms with what was going on, to just walk around,

0:37:33.310 --> 0:37:36.450
<v Speaker 1>just a quick walk. I mean, slow walk, I should say.

0:37:36.469 --> 0:37:40.810
<v Speaker 1>The game is going on. Yeah, so he's being walked

0:37:41.030 --> 0:37:45.190
<v Speaker 1>around by a couple of the staffers there just to,

0:37:45.250 --> 0:37:47.930
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, come to terms with what's going on,

0:37:47.950 --> 0:37:51.549
<v Speaker 1>just to calm down. That's his therapy, I suppose. That

0:37:51.570 --> 0:37:53.540
<v Speaker 1>was the note that I took from this game. There

0:37:53.580 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 1>really wasn't a lot. The Golden State Warriors are getting

0:37:56.780 --> 0:38:00.109
<v Speaker 1>ready for A road trip, a five-game road trip, which

0:38:00.170 --> 0:38:05.230
<v Speaker 1>starts tomorrow in Houston. So exciting stuff. Coming up here

0:38:05.250 --> 0:38:07.149
<v Speaker 1>for the Golden State Warriors, we will see where they

0:38:07.310 --> 0:38:10.170
<v Speaker 1>are in relation to the teams at the top of

0:38:10.190 --> 0:38:13.569
<v Speaker 1>the Western Conference. I mean, they are one of those teams,

0:38:14.050 --> 0:38:16.860
<v Speaker 1>but I know we would all take and think about

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.020
<v Speaker 1>the Houston Rockets who have the same record as the

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Golden State Warriors as more of a championship contender than

0:38:23.020 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the Warriors, although... Jimmy's coming back one day, and he

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:31.140
<v Speaker 1>was Coach Jimmy in this one, writing on the whiteboard,

0:38:31.260 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>pass it to Steph.

0:38:32.300 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Kind of a funny story, too, that Steve Kerr was

0:38:35.020 --> 0:38:36.700
<v Speaker 2>joking with one of his staffers, like, we got to

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:38.840
<v Speaker 2>get Jimmy dressed like an assistant coach out here at

0:38:38.860 --> 0:38:41.390
<v Speaker 2>some point. And then Jimmy apparently just decided to dress

0:38:41.410 --> 0:38:44.650
<v Speaker 2>like an assistant coach without telling anybody. Just shows me

0:38:44.670 --> 0:38:45.450
<v Speaker 2>the vibes are pretty good.

0:38:45.770 --> 0:38:46.210
<v Speaker 1>Vibes are great.

0:38:46.230 --> 0:38:48.089
<v Speaker 2>For the Golden State Warriors, and they're a team that

0:38:48.110 --> 0:38:51.460
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, over the course of Steph Curry's career there,

0:38:51.930 --> 0:38:53.850
<v Speaker 2>They look their best when they're playing with joy. That

0:38:53.890 --> 0:38:56.390
<v Speaker 2>was like a big buzzword for them early on in

0:38:56.410 --> 0:38:58.509
<v Speaker 2>their run. There's a lot of joy in Golden State

0:38:58.550 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 2>right now.

0:38:59.219 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Flying through the other three games, the Raptors, without four

0:39:02.500 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 1>of their starters, looking like they're the Charlotte Hornets out there,

0:39:04.820 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 1>got beat by the Grizzlies. Ty Jerome is just incredible

0:39:08.060 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 1>with that floater. They have improved to 5-0 on the road.

0:39:12.500 --> 0:39:15.450
<v Speaker 1>John Collins put up 24 points and 10 rebounds as

0:39:15.469 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the Pistons beat Anthony Davis and the Wizards, despite Anthony Davis' 44-13,

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 1>and the Rockets beat the Nuggets 110-100 to snap a

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:27.649
<v Speaker 1>two-game skid. Anything from those three?

0:39:27.670 --> 0:39:29.969
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I thought that was a good way

0:39:30.500 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 2>for Detroit. They're still without Jalen Duren, so Anthony Davis

0:39:33.620 --> 0:39:36.580
<v Speaker 2>was dominating inside, but it meant the flip side of

0:39:36.620 --> 0:39:39.550
<v Speaker 2>things is that with John Collins as the starting five

0:39:39.670 --> 0:39:44.770
<v Speaker 2>for Detroit, Pistons looked really, really fast. 21-4 fast break

0:39:44.790 --> 0:39:46.450
<v Speaker 2>points for Detroit. They had 31 assists on 41 makes.

0:39:48.180 --> 0:39:52.140
<v Speaker 2>Only 11 turnovers. Very little defensive pressure, I would say,

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 2>from the Wizards.

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:53.980
<v Speaker 1>Though A.J.

0:39:54.020 --> 0:39:56.290
<v Speaker 2>DeBonsa had some really fun baskets in this one. He

0:39:56.310 --> 0:39:58.250
<v Speaker 2>had like a fake Euro step on a fast break

0:39:58.270 --> 0:40:01.930
<v Speaker 2>that looked ridiculously quick and confusing the way he got

0:40:01.969 --> 0:40:04.390
<v Speaker 2>the ball to the rim. Had a big dunk. Top

0:40:04.430 --> 0:40:08.770
<v Speaker 2>five dunk score, if I'm not mistaken, so far this season. But,

0:40:09.380 --> 0:40:12.100
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Wizards were at. 500.

0:40:12.100 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis went out. He came back.

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:17.850
<v Speaker 2>Most of their wins were against lower-ranked teams. And now

0:40:17.890 --> 0:40:19.810
<v Speaker 2>that they're going against some of the better teams in

0:40:19.830 --> 0:40:23.029
<v Speaker 2>the league, like the Pistons, you can see where the

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:25.620
<v Speaker 2>levels are, I think, in the Eastern Conference. So Detroit

0:40:25.660 --> 0:40:28.700
<v Speaker 2>was playing with desperation. They'd lost two straight. They came

0:40:28.739 --> 0:40:30.660
<v Speaker 2>out and played great team basketball for the win.

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:34.860
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now there's serious questions going around about Trey Young's

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:37.930
<v Speaker 1>contract and how much they're paying him and his inefficiency

0:40:37.989 --> 0:40:41.469
<v Speaker 1>thus far this season. Because it is odd just to

0:40:41.510 --> 0:40:46.509
<v Speaker 1>see Trey not being able to hit shots and That

0:40:46.530 --> 0:40:51.250
<v Speaker 1>would help this team. And we all questioned not only

0:40:51.290 --> 0:40:53.990
<v Speaker 1>the max money he was getting, but just the length

0:40:54.090 --> 0:40:56.580
<v Speaker 1>of it. Maybe it would make sense if it was

0:40:56.620 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>a short-term contract and then the young guys started to

0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:02.779
<v Speaker 1>get paid. But it is unfortunate here so far this

0:41:02.820 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>season in that the shots just ain't going down for Trey,

0:41:06.219 --> 0:41:08.630
<v Speaker 1>which is... which is oddball. Not really.

0:41:08.890 --> 0:41:12.330
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's been struggling as a shooter for the

0:41:12.350 --> 0:41:16.029
<v Speaker 2>past few seasons. He hasn't been over league average since

0:41:16.070 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 2>the 2024 season. He doesn't necessarily have the same quickness

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 2>and speed to get to his floaters, and those are

0:41:22.300 --> 0:41:26.140
<v Speaker 2>tricky shots anyways. So he's definitely taken a step back

0:41:26.420 --> 0:41:29.460
<v Speaker 2>scoring efficiency-wise, which is why he's more of a playmaker.

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of miles to feed on the Wizards,

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.260
<v Speaker 2>so at least he can get other players involved. But

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 2>He's 28 years old right now. They got him signed

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 2>for a lot more years. We'll see if he's able

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.739
<v Speaker 2>to regain some of the shooting prowess he had early

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 2>in his career, but the past couple of seasons he's

0:41:45.900 --> 0:41:48.839
<v Speaker 2>been down. I thought Denver played pretty well last night

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 2>considering their travel concerns. They played hard enough, but only

0:41:53.219 --> 0:41:56.060
<v Speaker 2>Murray and Jokic were any good. 63 points on 44

0:41:56.060 --> 0:41:58.390
<v Speaker 2>shots for them. The rest of the Nuggets had 37

0:41:58.390 --> 0:41:59.770
<v Speaker 2>points on 39 shots.

0:42:00.050 --> 0:42:00.350
<v Speaker 1>Woof.

0:42:00.810 --> 0:42:02.930
<v Speaker 2>Shangoon had an awesome fourth quarter. We were just talking

0:42:02.950 --> 0:42:05.780
<v Speaker 2>about the struggles the Rockets have had in the clutch,

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:08.340
<v Speaker 2>but he went for nine points and five assists in

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:11.290
<v Speaker 2>the fourth. And he was like part of a two

0:42:11.310 --> 0:42:14.610
<v Speaker 2>man game with basically everybody on the Rockets. He was

0:42:14.630 --> 0:42:17.830
<v Speaker 2>the role man with Kevin Durant or Jabari Smith. And

0:42:17.850 --> 0:42:20.530
<v Speaker 2>then they ran a lot of Shen Goon handling the ball,

0:42:20.570 --> 0:42:23.340
<v Speaker 2>Fred Van Vliet coming up and being the screener for

0:42:23.580 --> 0:42:26.540
<v Speaker 2>Shen Goon. And that was really throwing off the Nuggets defense.

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:28.819
<v Speaker 2>A good plan of attack. I love seeing Shen Goon

0:42:28.860 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 2>and Jokic go like post move for post move with

0:42:30.820 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 2>each other.

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Like it was 1996. Great stuff. Yeah, and I just

0:42:34.140 --> 0:42:36.950
<v Speaker 1>couldn't pull it off other than those two guys you mentioned.

0:42:37.190 --> 0:42:42.770
<v Speaker 1>They're top two. Not a lot of support from Cam, Cam, Cam, Cam, Cam,

0:42:43.270 --> 0:42:46.210
<v Speaker 1>and Christian. No, no. I messed up. I messed up.

0:42:46.270 --> 0:42:46.850
<v Speaker 2>That's what you said.

0:42:47.110 --> 0:42:49.410
<v Speaker 1>Did I say that? The original one? Anyways, Cam, Christian,

0:42:49.469 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 1>and Aaron didn't come through, and Christian Brown missing those

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:55.940
<v Speaker 1>two free throws. That really hurt. They're late in the game.

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Either way, yeah, good match, and we'll see the Rockets

0:42:59.260 --> 0:43:05.100
<v Speaker 1>visit or play the Golden State Warriors on Wednesday. Let's

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:05.580
<v Speaker 1>get to.

0:43:07.300 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Whoa, boy.

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:08.420
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:09.060
<v Speaker 2>Whoa.

0:43:09.450 --> 0:43:10.070
<v Speaker 1>Biggity boy.

0:43:11.570 --> 0:43:14.089
<v Speaker 2>Actually, some good candidates last night, like Cooper Flagg could

0:43:14.110 --> 0:43:16.770
<v Speaker 2>have got it. Luca could have got it. Seven stocks

0:43:16.810 --> 0:43:20.029
<v Speaker 2>for this guy. But yeah, it's going to Wemby. 40 points,

0:43:20.030 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 2>11 rebounds, three assists, nine blocks. A couple of threes

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:26.100
<v Speaker 2>went 15 of 19 from the field to a three

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:28.060
<v Speaker 2>from three, eight of 10 at the free throw line.

0:43:28.100 --> 0:43:31.860
<v Speaker 2>Great percentages as well. You can shoot a high percentage

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 2>when you're shooting from above the basket almost every single time.

0:43:35.780 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 2>He's dominating right now.

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:41.089
<v Speaker 1>Should we include dunks on woe boys one day? Yeah.

0:43:42.090 --> 0:43:46.049
<v Speaker 1>It's not a stat per se, but I suppose it is.

0:43:46.150 --> 0:43:47.509
<v Speaker 1>Basketball references tracking them.

0:43:47.530 --> 0:43:47.930
<v Speaker 2>They got them.

0:43:48.430 --> 0:43:48.649
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:43:48.989 --> 0:43:49.350
<v Speaker 2>Nine of them.

0:43:49.770 --> 0:43:53.490
<v Speaker 1>Nine of them. Nine of his 15 baskets. Just dunks.

0:43:53.610 --> 0:43:56.210
<v Speaker 2>Nine dunks. And the finger roll was probably the highlight.

0:43:57.350 --> 0:43:59.689
<v Speaker 2>Of his game, if not the highlight of the night

0:43:59.770 --> 0:44:02.989
<v Speaker 2>for the entire league, basically taking off from the free

0:44:03.010 --> 0:44:05.360
<v Speaker 2>throw line, a step behind the free throw line. Like

0:44:05.380 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 2>he picks the ball up at the three-point line and

0:44:08.180 --> 0:44:10.350
<v Speaker 2>gets to the free throw line and somehow finishes it.

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 1>They called it Iceman.

0:44:11.100 --> 0:44:12.020
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, okay.

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That's cool. That was cool. Yeah, the George Girvin

0:44:15.020 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 1>shout-out was cool. He's good. All right, getting to our

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:22.989
<v Speaker 1>pick-em tonight, because there's a big game. The Boston Celtics

0:44:23.050 --> 0:44:26.870
<v Speaker 1>are visiting the Philadelphia 76ers. Who is going to win?

0:44:27.530 --> 0:44:30.970
<v Speaker 1>Nobody knows. Everybody is sort of even on Kelshi. Jalen

0:44:30.989 --> 0:44:34.870
<v Speaker 1>Brown versus Jason Tatum. I know our debate was, how

0:44:34.910 --> 0:44:38.549
<v Speaker 1>many will Jalen Brown score in his first game against

0:44:38.570 --> 0:44:43.860
<v Speaker 1>the Boston Celtics? What's your take on that, dude? How

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 1>are you feeling on the number? I know we had

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:50.460
<v Speaker 1>an over-under of a 35, right? That was 35. That

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:51.460
<v Speaker 1>sounds high now.

0:44:52.060 --> 0:44:54.910
<v Speaker 2>That does sound high. You know, he's gotten it going here.

0:44:54.969 --> 0:45:00.350
<v Speaker 2>Had a couple of 25-plus point games last week. He's motivated,

0:45:00.510 --> 0:45:03.210
<v Speaker 2>for sure. I think he'll definitely be over 40 when

0:45:03.230 --> 0:45:06.060
<v Speaker 2>they play in Boston, but this one is in Philadelphia,

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:09.060
<v Speaker 2>so maybe it's more of a team approach. We shall see.

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:12.690
<v Speaker 2>Should be awesome, though, to see these two going against

0:45:12.750 --> 0:45:16.690
<v Speaker 2>each other, Tatum and Brown. I'm going with Philadelphia. They

0:45:16.710 --> 0:45:18.870
<v Speaker 2>get points. Like, I think Philadelphia can win this game.

0:45:19.310 --> 0:45:21.489
<v Speaker 2>So I'll take the points, and they're at home. Yeah,

0:45:21.510 --> 0:45:22.930
<v Speaker 2>they get a one and a half point. I mean,

0:45:22.950 --> 0:45:27.509
<v Speaker 2>it's basically a pick-em. You and Skeets have 76ers.

0:45:27.910 --> 0:45:30.310
<v Speaker 1>We'll take the Celtics, even though the Celtics have a

0:45:30.350 --> 0:45:33.569
<v Speaker 1>back-to-back coming up with Toronto the next day. Are they

0:45:33.610 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 1>going to save their guys for the Toronto Raptors instead

0:45:36.380 --> 0:45:40.210
<v Speaker 1>of the Philadelphia 76ers? I'm just kidding. I don't know.

0:45:40.430 --> 0:45:43.410
<v Speaker 1>The thing is with Paul George, he does now sit

0:45:43.610 --> 0:45:46.670
<v Speaker 1>one game of back-to-backs. Sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't.

0:45:47.010 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I suppose he will be playing in this one to

0:45:49.700 --> 0:45:52.060
<v Speaker 1>try and help out Jason Tatum against his old bud,

0:45:52.500 --> 0:45:57.620
<v Speaker 1>who is full of lots of drama alongside his teammate.

0:45:58.340 --> 0:46:02.580
<v Speaker 2>Do you think Paul George considers this his revenge game

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:03.339
<v Speaker 2>against the 76ers? Yeah.

0:46:05.340 --> 0:46:06.759
<v Speaker 1>That he never suited up for.

0:46:07.980 --> 0:46:09.739
<v Speaker 2>No. Paul George played for the 76ers last year.

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, I had a brain fart. Yeah, no.

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:15.779
<v Speaker 2>No? No. You think he's just trying to forget those

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:16.500
<v Speaker 2>years of his life?

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:23.620
<v Speaker 1>I think he's more anti-Clippers, I think, than anti-Sixers. That's

0:46:23.660 --> 0:46:27.340
<v Speaker 1>my take. Let's get to the Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:33.340
<v Speaker 1>in Is This News? Oh, baby.

0:46:34.260 --> 0:46:37.100
<v Speaker 2>Big game tonight in the stream team. They're calling it

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:40.400
<v Speaker 2>the Lamb Chops and Gravy Bowl. Celtics and the Sixers

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:42.840
<v Speaker 2>face off for the first time since the Jalen Brown trade.

0:46:43.340 --> 0:46:45.410
<v Speaker 2>It's beef, it's lamb chops, it's gravy. And we got

0:46:45.430 --> 0:46:48.230
<v Speaker 2>a big piece by Jay King over at The Athletic

0:46:48.270 --> 0:46:53.070
<v Speaker 2>about how the Brown-Tatum relationship cratered due to outside influences. Tass,

0:46:53.710 --> 0:46:54.750
<v Speaker 2>is this news to you?

0:46:55.190 --> 0:46:59.750
<v Speaker 1>Nope. I don't. I think Jalen Brown is an open guy,

0:47:00.110 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 1>and that can... elevate or have the comments explode on

0:47:07.900 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>any platform out there. But I don't think he dislikes,

0:47:12.580 --> 0:47:18.380
<v Speaker 1>absolutely hates Jason Tatum. I don't think that's the actual

0:47:18.420 --> 0:47:21.060
<v Speaker 1>reality of it at all. I mean, were there incidents

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 1>that they fought? No. In J. King's piece, there isn't

0:47:24.820 --> 0:47:27.879
<v Speaker 1>any incident at all. I mean, he just talks a lot.

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I think this is more like LeBron and Kyrie in Cleveland,

0:47:32.550 --> 0:47:35.969
<v Speaker 1>where Yeah, Jalen Brown wanted to be the equal to

0:47:36.030 --> 0:47:39.069
<v Speaker 1>LeBron James, or excuse me, to Jason Tatum. Like, Kyrie

0:47:39.090 --> 0:47:41.570
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be with LeBron. I think it happens. We

0:47:41.590 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 1>were just talking about Paul George. I think he wanted

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:46.460
<v Speaker 1>that in Los Angeles with Kawhi. He wanted to be

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:49.640
<v Speaker 1>paid the same, as he said, in a podcast recently.

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:51.940
<v Speaker 1>It's the same sort of thing to me. Did they

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 1>dislike each other? I don't think so. Did they have

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.620
<v Speaker 1>problems with each other? I don't think so. Were they

0:47:55.660 --> 0:47:58.270
<v Speaker 1>best of friends? No, they weren't. But I think that's

0:47:58.310 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the extent of it, because... After months of these things

0:48:03.219 --> 0:48:06.109
<v Speaker 1>erupting on any platform, when Jalen Brown says, I want

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:08.270
<v Speaker 1>to be the guy when he's on Twitch, I mean,

0:48:08.330 --> 0:48:11.890
<v Speaker 1>it explodes. But where's the evidence? Where's the actual factual

0:48:12.930 --> 0:48:14.710
<v Speaker 1>situation or anything?

0:48:15.230 --> 0:48:15.650
<v Speaker 2>Anything.

0:48:15.690 --> 0:48:18.140
<v Speaker 1>There really wasn't. So this isn't any news to me.

0:48:18.150 --> 0:48:20.890
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's anything different over the last couple months. Yeah,

0:48:20.950 --> 0:48:21.870
<v Speaker 1>I kind of agree with you.

0:48:21.910 --> 0:48:25.509
<v Speaker 2>Reading through Jay's piece, basically everybody's like, no, there actually

0:48:25.570 --> 0:48:27.970
<v Speaker 2>wasn't any beef and there was nothing specific that happened.

0:48:28.070 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 2>But obviously the relationship shifted.

0:48:30.489 --> 0:48:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Soured.

0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:35.320
<v Speaker 2>And I think mentioned in there referring to like Tracy

0:48:35.340 --> 0:48:38.819
<v Speaker 2>McGrady's comments, it feels like Jalen Brown has as many

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:42.489
<v Speaker 2>problems with the entirety of the Celtics organization as he

0:48:42.530 --> 0:48:46.310
<v Speaker 2>does with Jason Tatum specifically. Right. Like he was in

0:48:46.330 --> 0:48:49.620
<v Speaker 2>Boston before Jason Tatum was. They played those next nine

0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 2>years together, but a decade later. For Jalen Brown, he

0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:55.880
<v Speaker 2>wins the finals MVP. He finishes sixth in MVP voting

0:48:56.340 --> 0:49:00.340
<v Speaker 2>last season. And basically he's advocating for Jalen Brown to

0:49:00.380 --> 0:49:02.259
<v Speaker 2>get a little bit more shine as one of the

0:49:02.300 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 2>faces of the franchise. When in reality, it is Tatum

0:49:06.460 --> 0:49:08.339
<v Speaker 2>as the face of the franchise. And I do think

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:10.170
<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit interesting the way they're saying it

0:49:10.310 --> 0:49:12.930
<v Speaker 2>feels like the media divided them a little bit because

0:49:12.969 --> 0:49:15.690
<v Speaker 2>it was always comparing who's better, Brown or Tatum. Can

0:49:15.710 --> 0:49:18.170
<v Speaker 2>these guys fit? Can they actually coexist together? They won

0:49:18.210 --> 0:49:19.870
<v Speaker 2>a championship together.

0:49:19.890 --> 0:49:19.969
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:49:20.100 --> 0:49:22.299
<v Speaker 2>It was still like, who's the number one guy there?

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:25.400
<v Speaker 2>And then last year with Tatum missing the majority of

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:28.200
<v Speaker 2>the season after his Achilles injury, it really threw a

0:49:28.219 --> 0:49:30.530
<v Speaker 2>wrench into their plan. So it feels like the Celtics

0:49:30.550 --> 0:49:33.950
<v Speaker 2>were trying to get ahead of things and maybe try

0:49:33.969 --> 0:49:38.580
<v Speaker 2>to just put things in order and like, reassure Jason

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Tatum that he is indeed the face of the franchise.

0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:45.279
<v Speaker 2>So I'm looking forward to it tonight. Yeah. I'm looking

0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 2>forward to their interactions together because like you're saying, it

0:49:47.620 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel like they're the best of friends. It doesn't

0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:51.820
<v Speaker 2>feel like they really want to have any interaction together.

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:55.160
<v Speaker 2>They say basically they haven't spoken yet. Yeah. That's kind

0:49:55.180 --> 0:49:58.589
<v Speaker 2>of interesting. I think the LeBron Kyrie comparison is pretty

0:49:58.610 --> 0:49:59.250
<v Speaker 2>good actually though.

0:49:59.910 --> 0:50:01.410
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. More so than like a Shaq Kobe.

0:50:01.710 --> 0:50:02.910
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. Oh gosh.

0:50:02.930 --> 0:50:03.089
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:50:03.430 --> 0:50:03.569
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:50:04.610 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 1>It is funny. I would just think that writers would

0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:13.140
<v Speaker 1>be good enough to unsurface any little tiny kibble of

0:50:13.410 --> 0:50:16.570
<v Speaker 1>information that something happened, but they haven't been able to

0:50:16.590 --> 0:50:19.270
<v Speaker 1>do that. As you brought up, Tracy McGrady said that

0:50:19.330 --> 0:50:22.330
<v Speaker 1>a few months ago, he is friends with Jalen Brown.

0:50:22.390 --> 0:50:24.830
<v Speaker 1>And he basically said, yeah, he kind of has a

0:50:24.870 --> 0:50:29.100
<v Speaker 1>divide with the Boston Celtics front office and organization. And

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:32.299
<v Speaker 1>to me, that's, that's Kyrie and Cleveland where, he didn't

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:35.340
<v Speaker 1>get the same flight treatment and have as many friends

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:38.379
<v Speaker 1>on the flights as was reported by ESPN way back when.

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:41.950
<v Speaker 1>That feels a little bit more equal to me. But

0:50:41.989 --> 0:50:45.469
<v Speaker 1>we're looking for anything here. As you said, maybe they

0:50:45.510 --> 0:50:49.170
<v Speaker 1>haven't talked. Like in the preseason, they were on the

0:50:49.190 --> 0:50:52.569
<v Speaker 1>same floor. That was the piece, right? Like Philadelphia was

0:50:52.590 --> 0:50:55.569
<v Speaker 1>playing Boston. They were on the same floor, but they

0:50:55.610 --> 0:50:56.989
<v Speaker 1>never went and shook hands.

0:50:57.030 --> 0:50:59.620
<v Speaker 2>I mean, somewhat juicy, I guess.

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:02.500
<v Speaker 1>But, you know, it's fun for us to talk about. But, yeah,

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:06.500
<v Speaker 1>there isn't really any despise between each other. Yeah, Jalen Brown,

0:51:07.140 --> 0:51:10.620
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't the guy, as you talked about. And that's

0:51:10.660 --> 0:51:14.800
<v Speaker 1>what Jason Tatum is. And so that's probably probably irksome.

0:51:14.820 --> 0:51:17.840
<v Speaker 1>It's just like. Exactly. It's just like Luca here in

0:51:17.890 --> 0:51:21.229
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta yesterday talking trash like you wanted me. You wanted

0:51:21.270 --> 0:51:23.660
<v Speaker 1>me over Trey Young kind of thing. And Jalen Brown just,

0:51:23.700 --> 0:51:27.700
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, I say that because, of course, he

0:51:27.739 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 1>wants something like that to motivate him. And that's what

0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:32.899
<v Speaker 1>competitors do. And yeah, yeah, there's a little beef, but

0:51:33.700 --> 0:51:36.339
<v Speaker 1>it ain't lamb chops either. It's like, I don't know,

0:51:36.590 --> 0:51:42.690
<v Speaker 1>something even lesser. Like a prosciutto? A prosciutto. A little tasty?

0:51:42.750 --> 0:51:43.530
<v Speaker 2>A little tasty.

0:51:44.300 --> 0:51:45.779
<v Speaker 1>A little tasty, that's a good way to put it.

0:51:45.780 --> 0:51:47.779
<v Speaker 2>But it's still an appetizer for the most part, you know?

0:51:47.940 --> 0:51:50.350
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was going to go non-meat, if that makes

0:51:50.430 --> 0:51:50.990
<v Speaker 1>any sense.

0:51:51.170 --> 0:51:53.370
<v Speaker 2>It's a non-meat? This is a chickpea stew?

0:51:53.710 --> 0:51:57.870
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Chickpea stew? Tofu for you, tofu for me, chickpea

0:51:57.890 --> 0:51:59.010
<v Speaker 1>stew for you too.

0:51:59.390 --> 0:52:01.750
<v Speaker 2>Well, sticking with the beef, we are in the butcher shop.

0:52:02.570 --> 0:52:06.810
<v Speaker 2>Because Giannis Antetokounmpo said he was speechless over Doc Rivers'

0:52:06.870 --> 0:52:10.230
<v Speaker 2>comments on a recent Bill Simmons podcast. Giannis said he

0:52:10.270 --> 0:52:12.470
<v Speaker 2>will continue to focus on the heat and that athletes

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:16.040
<v Speaker 2>should not be dismayed by bitterness or pettiness. You buying

0:52:16.060 --> 0:52:17.819
<v Speaker 2>this beef, Tass? Is this news?

0:52:19.860 --> 0:52:22.900
<v Speaker 1>It is not news. No, this is just Doc talking.

0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:26.860
<v Speaker 1>He loves to talk and he's deflecting. That's what it

0:52:26.900 --> 0:52:30.669
<v Speaker 1>comes down to. If I... wanted to hear something that

0:52:31.270 --> 0:52:34.470
<v Speaker 1>was a little substantial, had some actual meat to it,

0:52:34.500 --> 0:52:37.160
<v Speaker 1>some actual facts, I would have wanted Doc to at

0:52:37.219 --> 0:52:40.180
<v Speaker 1>least say, okay, I was in Milwaukee two years. We

0:52:40.219 --> 0:52:44.660
<v Speaker 1>had Dame and Giannis together for one year. And say

0:52:44.820 --> 0:52:48.009
<v Speaker 1>something about that. Whether it's, yeah, Dame got hurt in

0:52:48.030 --> 0:52:50.790
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, and I would have loved to see him

0:52:50.830 --> 0:52:54.500
<v Speaker 1>and Giannis work in the playoffs together, but Giannis... didn't

0:52:54.860 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 1>love doing the pick and roll enough. I mean, something

0:52:57.460 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 1>factual or contextual, like something. To me, this is just

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:03.989
<v Speaker 1>Doc being old Doc.

0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:04.990
<v Speaker 2>No, totally.

0:53:05.030 --> 0:53:09.450
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's the unfortunate part. There wasn't much to that.

0:53:09.790 --> 0:53:14.990
<v Speaker 1>And now Mark Spears of ESPN reporting that Doc called

0:53:15.010 --> 0:53:21.130
<v Speaker 1>Giannis afterwards and apologized and had a discussion about it. Okay.

0:53:21.530 --> 0:53:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's not much to me at all. Yeah, it

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 2>just feels like classic Doc Rivers to me. He will

0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:30.900
<v Speaker 2>go on a podcast and gladly speak his mind. He's

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:34.879
<v Speaker 2>said similar things in the past about Harden, Embiid, Chris Paul,

0:53:35.140 --> 0:53:38.100
<v Speaker 2>Blake Griffin, and now it's Giannis. He's going to say

0:53:38.140 --> 0:53:41.420
<v Speaker 2>what's on his mind, and then he's going to backtrack

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:43.219
<v Speaker 2>a little bit eventually and be like, actually, these guys

0:53:43.260 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 2>are great players, and he does back them. I will

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:47.450
<v Speaker 2>say Giannis seemed legitimately hurt.

0:53:47.620 --> 0:53:47.839
<v Speaker 1>He did.

0:53:47.890 --> 0:53:49.989
<v Speaker 2>It looked like when he got asked about it, it

0:53:50.010 --> 0:53:51.109
<v Speaker 2>looked like he was in a locker room.

0:53:51.150 --> 0:53:51.649
<v Speaker 1>He's like, what?

0:53:51.770 --> 0:53:53.940
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe he said that. I'm speechless. And then

0:53:53.980 --> 0:53:55.819
<v Speaker 2>he's like, yeah, I'm putting the pass behind me. But,

0:53:55.860 --> 0:53:57.910
<v Speaker 2>you know, Doc Rivers was basically coach of the Bucs

0:53:57.950 --> 0:54:01.029
<v Speaker 2>because Giannis wanted it there. Kept him longer as well.

0:54:01.090 --> 0:54:03.770
<v Speaker 2>And look, Doc was speaking some truth about some stuff

0:54:03.810 --> 0:54:06.850
<v Speaker 2>about how Giannis can be a little hardheaded with the

0:54:06.890 --> 0:54:08.390
<v Speaker 2>way he wants to play. You know, he doesn't want

0:54:08.430 --> 0:54:10.810
<v Speaker 2>to be a role man despite not being a great shooter.

0:54:10.870 --> 0:54:14.840
<v Speaker 2>He wants to handle the ball. I've seen similar things

0:54:15.300 --> 0:54:17.950
<v Speaker 2>from Giannis where it's like he doesn't adjust his game

0:54:18.730 --> 0:54:21.570
<v Speaker 2>necessarily to the rest of the players around the team.

0:54:21.630 --> 0:54:24.130
<v Speaker 2>So when the Bucks had their team built perfectly with

0:54:24.170 --> 0:54:27.250
<v Speaker 2>Giroux and Chris Middleton, it worked. When it became Dame Lillard,

0:54:27.290 --> 0:54:28.830
<v Speaker 2>a guy who should have the ball in his hands

0:54:29.050 --> 0:54:31.379
<v Speaker 2>running pick and rolls as well, it didn't work quite

0:54:31.420 --> 0:54:33.960
<v Speaker 2>as well. And there was always that... tension between the

0:54:33.980 --> 0:54:35.390
<v Speaker 2>two of them and the way they wanted to play

0:54:35.410 --> 0:54:37.730
<v Speaker 2>that you heard from Doc even back in the day,

0:54:38.489 --> 0:54:40.489
<v Speaker 2>even before he took the Bucs job, he was on

0:54:40.510 --> 0:54:42.730
<v Speaker 2>Simmons podcast being like, I'd like to see Dame Lillard

0:54:42.770 --> 0:54:44.190
<v Speaker 2>handling the ball more.

0:54:44.330 --> 0:54:44.910
<v Speaker 1>In pick and roll.

0:54:44.930 --> 0:54:47.450
<v Speaker 2>And eventually he did and blah, blah, blah. It didn't

0:54:47.489 --> 0:54:50.340
<v Speaker 2>work out. And then Doc gets back into the media

0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:51.899
<v Speaker 2>and goes Doc mode.

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I would have preferred at least him to say,

0:54:56.739 --> 0:54:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I wanted Dame and Yannis to be more in the

0:54:58.900 --> 0:55:01.819
<v Speaker 1>pick and roll, et cetera. we didn't get to see

0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:03.740
<v Speaker 1>it in the playoffs. He could have pulled the card

0:55:03.780 --> 0:55:09.000
<v Speaker 1>that he used when he was post Boston Celtics. When

0:55:09.460 --> 0:55:12.140
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately they didn't have Kendrick Perkins in their starting lineup

0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:13.640
<v Speaker 1>when they played in the playoffs. And he said, yeah,

0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:15.299
<v Speaker 1>we didn't have our five guys healthy. Like you should

0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:17.960
<v Speaker 1>have said, should have brought that up. Dame wasn't healthy.

0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:20.299
<v Speaker 1>And in the one year that they had him and

0:55:20.340 --> 0:55:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Giannis together, they didn't play in the playoffs together. Essentially.

0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:55:22.739 --> 0:55:24.960
<v Speaker 1>And this was, or excuse me, Dame was just, he

0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:26.580
<v Speaker 1>played a little bit, but he was banged up. He

0:55:26.600 --> 0:55:29.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't himself. So, you know, it's just, let's elaborate. I mean,

0:55:30.300 --> 0:55:35.739
<v Speaker 1>Give us the stuff. This, to me, just wasn't anything specific.

0:55:35.840 --> 0:55:39.680
<v Speaker 1>And I will say about Giannis, maybe he is somewhat hard-headed.

0:55:40.650 --> 0:55:43.069
<v Speaker 1>We did the Kobe Shaq talk earlier. He always said

0:55:43.190 --> 0:55:49.589
<v Speaker 1>he modeled his game and his mannerisms around Kobe. And

0:55:50.530 --> 0:55:54.420
<v Speaker 1>I could see that in that maybe it takes time

0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:57.729
<v Speaker 1>for the relationship to grow. Like Chris Middleton said, did

0:55:57.870 --> 0:55:59.850
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of pick and rolls where Giannis was

0:55:59.890 --> 0:56:02.490
<v Speaker 1>the role man. And they had a relationship and maybe

0:56:02.510 --> 0:56:04.160
<v Speaker 1>that's why they got to where they were and they

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:06.920
<v Speaker 1>won that championship together. And maybe Dames was too short.

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:08.880
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, they pulled it out in games at

0:56:08.900 --> 0:56:11.859
<v Speaker 1>times as they went to their first playoffs together, but

0:56:11.900 --> 0:56:12.760
<v Speaker 1>they didn't excel.

0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:15.839
<v Speaker 2>No, they never were more than the sum of their parts.

0:56:15.920 --> 0:56:17.980
<v Speaker 2>Like they didn't enhance each other's games. Yeah, that's a

0:56:17.980 --> 0:56:18.600
<v Speaker 2>good way to put it.

0:56:19.340 --> 0:56:23.690
<v Speaker 1>My last question about this, Bill Simmons having Doc Rivers on,

0:56:24.670 --> 0:56:27.190
<v Speaker 1>And Giannis being asked about it by Eric Name in

0:56:27.270 --> 0:56:32.590
<v Speaker 1>the locker room. We're like three days apart. My question is, Giannis' people,

0:56:33.370 --> 0:56:36.140
<v Speaker 1>he has some people. Why don't they tell him this?

0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:40.739
<v Speaker 1>He didn't know this until Eric Name said it to him.

0:56:41.620 --> 0:56:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised by that.

0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:43.279
<v Speaker 2>He didn't?

0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think he did. I don't know. I

0:56:47.100 --> 0:56:47.339
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:49.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm just hearing this for the first time. It's kind

0:56:49.840 --> 0:56:51.140
<v Speaker 2>of what it reminded me of. Really? Yeah.

0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:51.839
<v Speaker 1>He's a podcaster, Tess.

0:56:54.800 --> 0:56:56.240
<v Speaker 2>He's on Thanalysis regularly.

0:56:56.860 --> 0:56:59.819
<v Speaker 1>Oh, come on. You got to do some thanalytics on that.

0:56:59.860 --> 0:57:02.799
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't been on Yanis' podcast in months.

0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:05.140
<v Speaker 2>I'm not up to date on the guest rundowns.

0:57:05.260 --> 0:57:08.060
<v Speaker 1>It's been months. No, he's got to be in Milwaukee

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:10.319
<v Speaker 1>for that one. No, I thought he was legitimately hurt

0:57:10.620 --> 0:57:11.950
<v Speaker 1>because he literally hurt him.

0:57:11.969 --> 0:57:12.390
<v Speaker 2>I agree.

0:57:13.050 --> 0:57:14.790
<v Speaker 1>I think if he had hurt it, he wouldn't have

0:57:14.810 --> 0:57:17.290
<v Speaker 1>been hurt. If he knew, he wouldn't just act like

0:57:17.350 --> 0:57:20.870
<v Speaker 1>I'm hurt. And he got mad. He said to Eric Name, oh,

0:57:21.190 --> 0:57:23.370
<v Speaker 1>why don't you call him? You have his phone number.

0:57:23.610 --> 0:57:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I know you do. I know you do. I know

0:57:25.390 --> 0:57:28.020
<v Speaker 1>you do. That was funny. Yeah, that was great. So

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:31.700
<v Speaker 1>I literally don't think that his staff or whatever you

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:33.700
<v Speaker 1>call these people now, these business people, would have just

0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:35.340
<v Speaker 1>said to him, hey, dude, did you see this thing

0:57:35.380 --> 0:57:39.220
<v Speaker 1>by Doc just preparing you for when you're eventually asked

0:57:39.260 --> 0:57:41.160
<v Speaker 1>about it? And I'm kind of surprised that it did

0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:46.560
<v Speaker 1>take this long. Giannis didn't do a post-game interview after

0:57:46.600 --> 0:57:49.820
<v Speaker 1>a previous game because of, them losing, and there was

0:57:49.860 --> 0:57:52.400
<v Speaker 1>this talk that, oh, Giannis is mad and doesn't want

0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:54.660
<v Speaker 1>to be in Miami or whatever, and then they end

0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:59.280
<v Speaker 1>up winning on their road trip after that. So he

0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:04.530
<v Speaker 1>wasn't at every single microphone that's possible, but I'm surprised.

0:58:04.670 --> 0:58:05.870
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised that he wasn't asked about it, and I'm

0:58:05.890 --> 0:58:08.870
<v Speaker 1>surprised his people didn't deal with it. Giannis, I'll be

0:58:08.950 --> 0:58:10.890
<v Speaker 1>one of your PR people, and I will never let

0:58:10.910 --> 0:58:11.570
<v Speaker 1>that happen again.

0:58:11.810 --> 0:58:13.450
<v Speaker 2>You would tell them about the podcast immediately?

0:58:13.570 --> 0:58:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Hey, bud. Listen to this. Doc Rivers said you don't

0:58:15.660 --> 0:58:20.030
<v Speaker 1>have a basketball IQ. I mean, that is... some substantial stuff.

0:58:20.070 --> 0:58:23.550
<v Speaker 1>And then, and then the explanation as Mark Spears, uh,

0:58:24.030 --> 0:58:27.190
<v Speaker 1>reported that doc basically kind of said that he didn't

0:58:27.230 --> 0:58:31.610
<v Speaker 1>really want to talk about IQ. He basically did a

0:58:31.650 --> 0:58:34.970
<v Speaker 1>roundabout saying that the, the IQ thing wasn't what he

0:58:35.010 --> 0:58:37.130
<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about, but you did, man. I mean,

0:58:37.150 --> 0:58:40.290
<v Speaker 1>you're basically saying you're not one of the smartest basketball players.

0:58:40.390 --> 0:58:42.490
<v Speaker 1>I know, you know, like in a, in a roundabout way,

0:58:42.530 --> 0:58:49.040
<v Speaker 1>which is insulting. And I think Janice was really hurt. Anyway. Exactly.

0:58:49.060 --> 0:58:49.980
<v Speaker 2>Giannis was hurt.

0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:50.260
<v Speaker 1>I agree.

0:58:50.640 --> 0:58:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Kristaps Porzingis announced over the weekend that he has, quote,

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:57.140
<v Speaker 2>made the decision to prioritize my health and step away

0:58:57.180 --> 0:59:01.010
<v Speaker 2>from the game I love. And, quote, as Porzingis continues

0:59:01.050 --> 0:59:04.130
<v Speaker 2>to deal with health issues, it's unclear if he will

0:59:04.190 --> 0:59:06.910
<v Speaker 2>return to the NBA, if he'll return to basketball. Tass,

0:59:06.950 --> 0:59:07.530
<v Speaker 2>is this news?

0:59:07.970 --> 0:59:11.570
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is news in that. it feels like it's over.

0:59:12.470 --> 0:59:14.950
<v Speaker 1>The fact that he is not around the team and

0:59:14.970 --> 0:59:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the fact that the Players Association isn't advocating for the

0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:24.940
<v Speaker 1>lack of paychecks coming to Chris Epps Porzingis is wrong

0:59:25.020 --> 0:59:27.200
<v Speaker 1>in any way. They're not fighting it at all. So

0:59:27.240 --> 0:59:31.470
<v Speaker 1>it just feels like here we are with Chris Epps Porzingis' career. And,

0:59:31.490 --> 0:59:35.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, to back him and what he's going through,

0:59:35.820 --> 0:59:39.140
<v Speaker 1>the disorder that he's going through and dealing with, Potts,

0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:43.450
<v Speaker 1>as he's described it in the past, like he literally

0:59:44.630 --> 0:59:48.830
<v Speaker 1>has just got extremely tired and fatigued before he called

0:59:48.870 --> 0:59:51.450
<v Speaker 1>himself a house cat at times, like he just needed

0:59:51.490 --> 0:59:55.110
<v Speaker 1>to lay down. And I think there will be some

0:59:55.430 --> 0:59:59.820
<v Speaker 1>sort of, documentary or feature on him and his whole

0:59:59.880 --> 1:00:01.960
<v Speaker 1>career and what he's gone through at some point not

1:00:02.000 --> 1:00:06.060
<v Speaker 1>now but you know the whole drafted by phil jackson

1:00:06.100 --> 1:00:08.040
<v Speaker 1>at number four and he looked like he was on

1:00:08.060 --> 1:00:10.710
<v Speaker 1>the up and up in msg the injury happened after

1:00:10.750 --> 1:00:12.710
<v Speaker 1>making that all-star team he goes to dallas to play

1:00:12.750 --> 1:00:15.530
<v Speaker 1>with luco that doesn't work out and he bounces around

1:00:15.630 --> 1:00:18.510
<v Speaker 1>but he gets to boston wins the championship and here

1:00:18.550 --> 1:00:20.890
<v Speaker 1>they are so i like i just talking about the

1:00:20.910 --> 1:00:23.280
<v Speaker 1>story because i like the story far more than potts

1:00:23.300 --> 1:00:24.900
<v Speaker 1>has a disorder and i think that's what it comes

1:00:24.940 --> 1:00:28.210
<v Speaker 1>out i think it It must mean that it's over, right?

1:00:29.590 --> 1:00:32.580
<v Speaker 2>I would say at least like mostly over who knows

1:00:32.640 --> 1:00:35.100
<v Speaker 2>what sort of treatments will be available to him. And

1:00:35.120 --> 1:00:38.820
<v Speaker 2>if he'll ever be able to overcome pots and like

1:00:39.100 --> 1:00:42.000
<v Speaker 2>be a reliable player, but as he's getting older and older,

1:00:42.440 --> 1:00:47.090
<v Speaker 2>it seems less and less likely 31 years old right now. So, yeah,

1:00:47.230 --> 1:00:50.730
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's, it's pseudo news, not totally because he

1:00:50.790 --> 1:00:54.110
<v Speaker 2>hasn't been playing this season, but, It definitely becomes news

1:00:54.170 --> 1:00:56.390
<v Speaker 2>if the Warriors are able to find any sort of

1:00:56.430 --> 1:00:59.060
<v Speaker 2>a trade with this contract he's got because he's basically

1:00:59.100 --> 1:01:02.260
<v Speaker 2>a $ 20 million trade chip that a team can use

1:01:02.300 --> 1:01:04.320
<v Speaker 2>to save money for next season with only $ 3 million

1:01:04.400 --> 1:01:07.700
<v Speaker 2>of his contract next year guaranteed. But the Warriors don't

1:01:07.720 --> 1:01:10.510
<v Speaker 2>want to take on longer future money. And surely a

1:01:10.530 --> 1:01:13.070
<v Speaker 2>team that's trading for a guy that they can release

1:01:13.330 --> 1:01:16.170
<v Speaker 2>on a non-guaranteed or a partially guaranteed contract would want

1:01:16.190 --> 1:01:18.450
<v Speaker 2>to be saving money. So I don't know how they're

1:01:18.470 --> 1:01:24.950
<v Speaker 2>going to find... perfect partner for the Porzingis chip but

1:01:25.160 --> 1:01:27.760
<v Speaker 2>a sad end if this is the end for Kristaps

1:01:27.800 --> 1:01:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Porzingis like he's not a guy that we necessarily think

1:01:30.340 --> 1:01:32.460
<v Speaker 2>of as an injury what if but he's been banged

1:01:32.500 --> 1:01:34.610
<v Speaker 2>up a ton of times had so much promise and

1:01:34.780 --> 1:01:36.730
<v Speaker 2>early in his career finished second rookie of the year

1:01:36.770 --> 1:01:40.110
<v Speaker 2>voting made an all-star in his third season we saw

1:01:40.130 --> 1:01:42.610
<v Speaker 2>the impact that he had with the Celtics and when

1:01:42.630 --> 1:01:45.570
<v Speaker 2>he was healthy in like that one half, he had awesome, uh,

1:01:45.770 --> 1:01:48.990
<v Speaker 2>in the finals way back when, but that's a guy

1:01:49.010 --> 1:01:50.450
<v Speaker 2>that just hasn't been able to stay on the court

1:01:50.530 --> 1:01:53.310
<v Speaker 2>has been super productive when he is. And yeah, I

1:01:53.330 --> 1:01:54.300
<v Speaker 2>don't know if we'll ever see him again.

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<v Speaker 1>Bummer. Yeah. Here's a little fairy tale story twist that

1:01:57.890 --> 1:02:00.620
<v Speaker 1>could be applied to Chris Epps-Porzingis. There are teams that

1:02:00.640 --> 1:02:04.720
<v Speaker 1>are bad, um, and essentially would be willing to take

1:02:04.860 --> 1:02:08.640
<v Speaker 1>on a salary and have Chris Epps-Porzingis on their team

1:02:08.700 --> 1:02:10.760
<v Speaker 1>if they get a pick or, or however it works.

1:02:11.170 --> 1:02:13.530
<v Speaker 1>And because teams don't necessarily want to be bad at

1:02:13.590 --> 1:02:16.670
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the standings, Chris Absporzingas can come back

1:02:17.470 --> 1:02:20.110
<v Speaker 1>and play a few games for a team because it's

1:02:20.170 --> 1:02:23.190
<v Speaker 1>essentially a rental. You know, there's only a few million

1:02:23.230 --> 1:02:26.760
<v Speaker 1>dollars guaranteed next year, or he could even cut that off,

1:02:26.860 --> 1:02:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I suppose. But he'll come back, he'll hit some shots

1:02:30.960 --> 1:02:33.280
<v Speaker 1>and call it a career. Eh, why don't we write

1:02:33.300 --> 1:02:35.600
<v Speaker 1>it that way? I think that could be the extent

1:02:35.660 --> 1:02:38.420
<v Speaker 1>of it. And there could be a piece coming back

1:02:38.460 --> 1:02:41.500
<v Speaker 1>for the Golden State Warriors next for a guy, yeah,

1:02:41.520 --> 1:02:45.540
<v Speaker 1>making $ 20 million this year or not making $ 20 million

1:02:45.580 --> 1:02:47.020
<v Speaker 1>this year because they're not paying him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't seem like something that would get taken care of

1:02:50.970 --> 1:02:53.710
<v Speaker 2>very quickly to me because a team doesn't have a

1:02:53.730 --> 1:02:54.970
<v Speaker 2>ton of incentive to trade for.

1:02:55.030 --> 1:02:55.570
<v Speaker 1>Not now.

1:02:56.010 --> 1:02:57.150
<v Speaker 2>Now, but maybe at the trade deadline.

1:02:57.230 --> 1:02:57.510
<v Speaker 1>We'll see.

1:02:58.070 --> 1:03:00.590
<v Speaker 2>Tyler Kolick got himself in some hot water when he

1:03:00.650 --> 1:03:05.540
<v Speaker 2>called Taylor Swift's Knicks fandom a little performative. The Knicks

1:03:05.680 --> 1:03:08.939
<v Speaker 2>issued a statement backing Taylor and Kolick is now saying

1:03:08.960 --> 1:03:11.550
<v Speaker 2>that he misspoke in And that if people have been

1:03:11.610 --> 1:03:13.650
<v Speaker 2>sending him a lot of pictures of Taylor Swift going

1:03:13.670 --> 1:03:17.230
<v Speaker 2>to Knicks games, is this news, Taz?

1:03:18.410 --> 1:03:21.960
<v Speaker 1>It ain't news. It is not news. The Knicks kind

1:03:22.000 --> 1:03:23.900
<v Speaker 1>of made it some news because they come out with

1:03:23.980 --> 1:03:26.820
<v Speaker 1>a statement basically saying Taylor Swift is a fan of ours.

1:03:28.660 --> 1:03:31.800
<v Speaker 1>And so it's a story. And Tyler Kulik walks back

1:03:31.880 --> 1:03:34.920
<v Speaker 1>what he said. The way he said it when he

1:03:34.960 --> 1:03:37.800
<v Speaker 1>was asked on this live stream, you know, originally he

1:03:37.820 --> 1:03:39.680
<v Speaker 1>was on a live stream with Deuce McBride. They're sitting

1:03:39.720 --> 1:03:43.350
<v Speaker 1>there and somebody– writes in, hey, who's the fakest fan

1:03:43.410 --> 1:03:47.490
<v Speaker 1>on Celebrity Row? And he says, maybe Taylor Swift, because

1:03:47.510 --> 1:03:49.130
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen her at a lot of games. I mean,

1:03:49.150 --> 1:03:51.890
<v Speaker 1>he's just saying what's on his mind, and I think

1:03:51.930 --> 1:03:55.630
<v Speaker 1>that's fine. But the fact that he walked it back,

1:03:57.070 --> 1:04:00.350
<v Speaker 1>and now he's also said that he knows all the

1:04:00.410 --> 1:04:02.590
<v Speaker 1>words to Taylor Swift's songs, and I sang them.

1:04:03.970 --> 1:04:05.050
<v Speaker 2>Actually, I'm a huge fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not news, unfortunately, but you activated... The Swifties.

1:04:10.640 --> 1:04:11.320
<v Speaker 1>You unleashed them.

1:04:11.920 --> 1:04:14.980
<v Speaker 2>You activated the Swifties. You didn't know that she's gone

1:04:15.020 --> 1:04:17.380
<v Speaker 2>to Knicks games for a decade.

1:04:17.560 --> 1:04:18.040
<v Speaker 1>But they do.

1:04:18.260 --> 1:04:20.860
<v Speaker 2>They know. They've got the photos. They've got the performance

1:04:20.900 --> 1:04:25.720
<v Speaker 2>of her playing a Knicks talent show at MSG in 2003. Yeah.

1:04:26.870 --> 1:04:27.510
<v Speaker 2>She's been around.

1:04:28.190 --> 1:04:30.270
<v Speaker 1>And they know. They won't forget. I didn't know that. Same.

1:04:30.410 --> 1:04:33.210
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that either. Tyler Kolek surely didn't know that.

1:04:33.650 --> 1:04:35.910
<v Speaker 2>So whoever asked him the question, definitely setting him up,

1:04:36.130 --> 1:04:39.630
<v Speaker 2>I think. Because anticipating that the answer would be Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 1>And they got him.

1:04:40.920 --> 1:04:43.520
<v Speaker 2>They got him just like that, Tess. Set a trap

1:04:43.560 --> 1:04:45.720
<v Speaker 2>and he walked right into it. Boom, here's a photo

1:04:45.760 --> 1:04:48.830
<v Speaker 2>of her wearing a Joakim Noah jersey or whatever it was.

1:04:48.850 --> 1:04:49.250
<v Speaker 1>It was 13.

1:04:49.250 --> 1:04:51.550
<v Speaker 2>I bet it was actually Junkyard Dog. I bet it

1:04:51.590 --> 1:04:53.790
<v Speaker 2>was Jerome Williams looking at the cut of the jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You examined the cut.

1:04:56.470 --> 1:05:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, I remember Noah was like the current uniform style

1:05:01.390 --> 1:05:03.140
<v Speaker 2>that the Knicks have. And the one she was wearing

1:05:03.180 --> 1:05:05.780
<v Speaker 2>that was 13 had like the black trim on it

1:05:05.860 --> 1:05:08.320
<v Speaker 2>as well. So I think that's JYD era. That would

1:05:08.340 --> 1:05:09.660
<v Speaker 2>be amazing if she had a JYD.

1:05:10.570 --> 1:05:13.050
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he could have covered himself up and said,

1:05:13.070 --> 1:05:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe she's a fake fan. She did

1:05:16.020 --> 1:05:19.620
<v Speaker 1>just get married at Madison Square Garden. They literally shut

1:05:19.740 --> 1:05:22.020
<v Speaker 1>down the arena and shut down the roads. And she

1:05:22.060 --> 1:05:24.660
<v Speaker 1>was able to have all of her guests come and

1:05:24.700 --> 1:05:29.610
<v Speaker 1>see Kelsey and her get married. So she likes it there.

1:05:29.890 --> 1:05:32.959
<v Speaker 1>If she's going to have her wedding. Fair, if that's

1:05:33.040 --> 1:05:34.510
<v Speaker 1>a thing. But that's the end of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is PR from the Knicks. The right answer

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<v Speaker 2>was Jimmy Fallon, of course, for the fakest celebrity fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Good one. That's accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>For the first time since 1990, All-Star Weekend is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in Miami. Benvenido a Miami. 2028 All-Star Game.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to be on South Beach, Tass. This one is

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<v Speaker 2>literally news.

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<v Speaker 1>It's literally news, and I consider it news selfishly. It's

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<v Speaker 1>in a hot city, and it's kind of close. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is all about me. I haven't been to a

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<v Speaker 1>warm city all-star game since. We went to Charlotte in 2019.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the last warm weather one?

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<v Speaker 1>For us. Because there has been the Golden State one.

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<v Speaker 1>There has been an LA one. Okay. We just didn't go.

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<v Speaker 1>And will we go to the Miami one? TBD. Will

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<v Speaker 1>we go to the Phoenix one, which is the next

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<v Speaker 1>one coming this February? It's a possibility. I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just talking myself into it. being at another All-Star game

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<v Speaker 1>because we did miss a couple. So Phoenix, number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two on the list, Miami. I haven't been since.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally don't think I've been since we all were

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<v Speaker 1>together on the No Season Required Tour in 2011. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>To the actual city of Miami. Nice. So, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking into existence. Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I was there 23 finals, Denver versus Miami. But, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a long city. or a long layoff for

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<v Speaker 2>a city that people like to go to. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>warm weather city. When they play in February, you would

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<v Speaker 2>think they would be back at almost 40 years, almost

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<v Speaker 2>40 years. Unbelievable. And the heat have obviously been a

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<v Speaker 2>good team. And like, uh, at times one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most famous teams in the league, kind of surprising. They

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<v Speaker 2>never had it during the heatles era, but, uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>looked up the award winners from the 1990 all-star game.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to take a guess at MVP dunk contest

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<v Speaker 2>winner and three point contest winner.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Michael?

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<v Speaker 2>No, another great MJ from the era.

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<v Speaker 1>Magic?

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<v Speaker 2>Magic Johnson, MVP in 1990.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say dunk contest and three-point shooter?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>This was before the Craig Hodges era. Was it Craig Hodges?

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<v Speaker 2>It was Craig Hodges. I think this was his first

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<v Speaker 2>of three wins.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay. And dunk contest. Oh, this is hard.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, but this guy won a lot of dunk

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<v Speaker 2>contests but not dominique indeed it was oh i thought

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<v Speaker 2>this was after dominique well i should have just said

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<v Speaker 2>it instead of saying not craig hodges and not dominique.

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<v Speaker 1>Confidence is everything yeah you're right it is everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Magic johnson mvp dunk contest neek three-point contest craig hodges so.

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<v Speaker 1>That was i guess lat dominique wilkins won a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of dunk contests and this was his final one.

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<v Speaker 2>It must have been his final win yeah okay all

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<v Speaker 2>right great stuff cool That's it for us today.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be back tomorrow. Skeets will be back here.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got games to go through. 10 a.m. tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>10 a.m.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back at normal time. Regular times for everybody. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be talking about Jalen and Jason. The Jays.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wise, some call them. I like to call them

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<v Speaker 1>the Wise. We'll see what happens with the Knicks Bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Thunder Blazers also are. A headliner tonight. Looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to that one as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, our national TV games look pretty good, and everything

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<v Speaker 2>else appears to be winning team versus losing team.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of one-win teams trying to get number two tomorrow. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Jazz could be one in ten after tonight against the

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<v Speaker 1>Miami Heat because they're injured, unfortunately. Bunch of injuries. But

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<v Speaker 1>we will talk about it all tomorrow. For now, Clipper Bros.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard it here first.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys. Awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for joining us, and remember, if you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule, there's a game at 11 o'clock Eastern tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw it, so I had to include that

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<v Speaker 1>the Thunder Blazers game, which is on Peacock, is at

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<v Speaker 1>11 Eastern because they like to spread it out so

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<v Speaker 1>it's in the prime time on both, or on one coast,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say.

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<v Speaker 2>Coast to coast.

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<v Speaker 1>Coast to coast. That's what they do on the Peacocks.

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<v Speaker 1>8 and 11.

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<v Speaker 2>8 and 11.

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<v Speaker 1>We're at 10 a.m. Eastern tomorrow. Embrace the day.