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Speaker 1: this morning, Matt Rule leaves Baylor. He's going to the

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Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage studios here at the Star in Frisco, Texas,

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Speaker 1: and again we Mickey has speculated that we might have

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Speaker 1: a press conference tomorrow to announce the new head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys. We're talking about what's gone on

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Speaker 1: here in the last week and how it quickly came

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Speaker 1: together over the weekend. As reportedly, Mike McCarthy, you're a

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Speaker 1: new head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. And it's interesting

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Speaker 1: as he's putting the staff together. We've talked about Mike

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Speaker 1: Nolan as a defensive coordinator. Reports this morning about Kellen

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Speaker 1: Moore that McCarthy is interested in keeping Kellen Moore on

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Speaker 1: his staff, but Kellen apparently has an opportunity perhaps at

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Speaker 1: the University of Washington where and so we'll see what

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Speaker 1: happens with Kellen Moore, What would you do an offensive coordinator? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I stick around and being almost somebody like coach McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: To me, that would be an opportunity I would not

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Speaker 1: pass up. I'm already in the pro game. I'm already

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Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys. To me, it wouldn't even be

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Speaker 1: a ladle step going to YouTube, I would imagine. Of course,

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Speaker 1: a head coaching job in colleges is more amazing now

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Speaker 1: than it ever was. But if I'm already with the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: here we are. We have a chance to us or

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Speaker 1: redeem myself from last year. And I do it with

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Speaker 1: a coach with that much experience, someone I could learn from.

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Speaker 1: Even if if the head coach is calling plays, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course I want him to call plays because I

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Speaker 1: can learn from him. I can see the mistakes that

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Speaker 1: I made and clearly there were something And I think

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Speaker 1: with Killing it also kind of depends on where he

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Speaker 1: wants to go in his career. Does he see himself

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Speaker 1: down the road as a college coach or an NFL coach?

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Speaker 1: He really doesn't matter that much, But if he wanted

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Speaker 1: to make some inroads along those lines, maybe, But he

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Speaker 1: if he even if he wants to be a college

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Speaker 1: coach someday, he will benefit from learning, as you say,

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Speaker 1: from a young guy. I don't really see a young

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Speaker 1: guy going from being a professional coach and then transferring

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Speaker 1: to college. Usually it's an older coach who's about to

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Speaker 1: get out of the league. Hey, I can do this

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Speaker 1: college game because you know, mentally it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: like on the load, but also you have experience you

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Speaker 1: can impart on your younger players. I don't really see

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Speaker 1: a younger coach going from pros as an OC and

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Speaker 1: then saying, my future is in college once I'm a

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Speaker 1: bit by this bug and the professional bug, this is

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Speaker 1: what I want to stay with. That's that's just my opinion.

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Speaker 1: And you don't have to recruit right. Man. Come on

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Speaker 1: now in Washington, he'll obviously be the guy calling plays right.

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Speaker 1: That'll be his job here. Even if they leave him

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Speaker 1: as offensive coordinator, he's going to be doing all the

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Speaker 1: legwork for Mike McCarthy, who's overseeing him. That's how you learn,

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Speaker 1: and that's how that's how you learn, and that gives

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Speaker 1: him an opportunity to see how another coach does things

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Speaker 1: and steal amound all this talent on right right, Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and have some input. I would imagine, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: going to pick his brain if he right. Yeah, you've

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Speaker 1: been here, you know, you know the talent, and you

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Speaker 1: study it together, and he could learn a heck of

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Speaker 1: a lot. But again, I guess it's what your kind

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Speaker 1: of priority is going forward. Do you want to be

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Speaker 1: a college coach? Well, if you're OC and you're successful there,

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Speaker 1: then you get an opportunity to get a college job

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Speaker 1: for sure. And John Kitna, what do you anticipate might

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Speaker 1: be happening there? I would think you keep him as

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Speaker 1: a quarterback coach. I keep him. I think he worked

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Speaker 1: really well with the quarterbacks, and uh, I would I

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Speaker 1: think you have You can't wipe out the host staff.

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Speaker 1: You need to keep some holdover guys, and those guys

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Speaker 1: would not be a threat to me. I remember Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Johnson talking about when he went to Miami and he

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Speaker 1: was only allowed to bring one guy with him. I

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Speaker 1: think it was Butch Davis. And there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of backstabbing going on on that staff because there were

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Speaker 1: guys on that staff that thought they should have been

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the University of Miami and it

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Speaker 1: was a bad situation. And I remember Jimmy saying, he goes,

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Speaker 1: I realized I made a mistake and I would never

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Speaker 1: make that mistake again, because when he came to the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: it's like, I'm bringing my guys with me. But that

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Speaker 1: was a different situation, right, that was a team that

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Speaker 1: needed to be rebuilt. And I remember, I mean, ever

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Speaker 1: sudden remembers they the college. Joe's right, what do they

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Speaker 1: know about the NFL? Well at one fifteen, everyone thought, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we told you that. Then each year they got better

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Speaker 1: and better. I remember coming here in nineteen ninety. I

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Speaker 1: came through and I couldn't wait for payback and all

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Speaker 1: they kind of crept. And I remember after the game

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Speaker 1: we won the game, and after the game, LT sitting

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Speaker 1: on the bench and he looked tired, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Texas heat, That's what I thought it was. I said,

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Speaker 1: hey boy, you all right? He goes, uh, Hey, man,

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Speaker 1: those guys are pretty good. And that was that was

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Speaker 1: That was your two. That was your two. He said, man,

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Speaker 1: those guys are pretty good. And when he said that,

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Speaker 1: he knew that that team had the potential to go

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. I've never seen him look like

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Speaker 1: that after a game. And if I remember that game

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Speaker 1: was in the middle of that three game they had

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Speaker 1: a three game losing streak. I think, uh, and I

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Speaker 1: think that got him to like four and seven or

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Speaker 1: three and seven, and then they won four straight seven

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Speaker 1: and seven. In an update on Jason Garrett, reports came

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Speaker 1: out this morning that the Giants were requesting permission to

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Speaker 1: talk with Garrett. I know they have to request permission. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's not the fourteenth year. Yeah, it's right there. And

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Speaker 1: initially when those reports came out, it was assumed that

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Speaker 1: it was for the head coaching position, and they immediately

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Speaker 1: on the heels of that came out that Joe Judge

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Speaker 1: is being hired as the head coach. And the clarification

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Speaker 1: is that they are talking with Jason Garrett about the

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Speaker 1: offensive course Judge wide receiver coach and special team special

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Speaker 1: and special teams, and he is being interviewed for the

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Speaker 1: head coaching job now he is, So we're finalizing our

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Speaker 1: details here. Is that? What are you saying? So, what

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Speaker 1: do you think the reaction is in the New York

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Speaker 1: Daily News? Exactly? Ill it because it's Joe Judge, it's

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Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, I mean, but it's also typical New York.

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Speaker 1: The reaction is, of course New York. You know, the

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Speaker 1: decision is typical New York giants right now, they don't

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Speaker 1: know what they're doing. I'm just sorry that. I'm sorry, guys.

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Speaker 1: I know, Judge, I'm sure he's a great guy, but

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Speaker 1: he must be a heck of a wide receiver coach,

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Speaker 1: lead teams guy. And look what he's doing and looking

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Speaker 1: at Joe Judges resume. He never clarified. He is thirty

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Speaker 1: eight years old. He's worked for some good heead went

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Speaker 1: to Mississippi State. He was a graduate assistant Mississippi State,

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Speaker 1: then a linebackers coach at Birmingham Southern. Then he was

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Speaker 1: under Nick Saban at Alabama. You're familiar with that course,

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Speaker 1: of course. He was a special team's assistant under Saban

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Speaker 1: oh nine to twenty eleven. He became a special teams

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Speaker 1: assistant with New England twenty twelve through fourteen, became the

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Speaker 1: special teams coordinator UH twenty fifteen through eighteen. In fact,

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Speaker 1: he's been the special teams coordinator ever since, in the

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Speaker 1: last five years, and just became and just added just

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Speaker 1: added the title wide receivers coach this season, so he

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Speaker 1: was not only the special teams coordinator, but also lost

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Speaker 1: all those wide receivers in New England this year and

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Speaker 1: they lost a bunch of Hookay, you're now the wife

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Speaker 1: receiver's coach for him, I mean no doubt, which explains

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Speaker 1: why at the end of that Patriots game the other night,

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Speaker 1: Julian Edelman was back there supposed to be the punt

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Speaker 1: return guy, and then someone on the sideline, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it was Joe Judge told him to go

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Speaker 1: cover the gunner over here because we're trying to block

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Speaker 1: the punt. And then, don't you know, Bill Parcels was

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Speaker 1: yelling at the TV when they get the punt away

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Speaker 1: and there's no return to either field the punt or

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Speaker 1: or just to for the yardage or for the time

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Speaker 1: on the clock, and it grows down the one yard.

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Speaker 1: But remember he was the mastermind of not putting a

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Speaker 1: guy back against exact boys exactly, and then the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: had to call time out. It's like, what the hell

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Speaker 1: is going on. He was also the mastermind of putting

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Speaker 1: Matthew Slater over Joe Thomas, who hadn't practiced all week

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Speaker 1: and he beat him and blocked the punt that beat

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Speaker 1: the cowege? Are you giving Bill belichicker Joe Judge credit

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Speaker 1: Joe Judge. Oh stop, it starts the paths pipeline. As

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Speaker 1: long as Belichick's there, they're gonna get Well, that's just

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Speaker 1: because that's the weather was in New England for every time.

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Speaker 1: But can you imagine the criticism that Jason Garrett and

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Speaker 1: Keith O'Quinn would have got on the on the television

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Speaker 1: broadcast if they didn't have a punt return guy back

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Speaker 1: for that punt. Can't have enough judges in New York. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is all right. Um, what other aspects of the

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy hire, um, intrigue you impending higher? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: would intrigue you reportedly. I mean obviously the dynamics between

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Speaker 1: he and uh Dak Chriscott. Yeah, they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: be strong. I would be very excited to see what

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Speaker 1: he really feels about working with a young quarterback like

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Speaker 1: this all over again. Uh he and uh Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: At the end, you said he got fired not mid season,

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Speaker 1: but late season, four games to go at the time,

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Speaker 1: rising fire. The timing of it was so I'm sure

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Speaker 1: trying to deal with another prima donna is not on

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Speaker 1: his list. As far as dealing with quarterbacks. I think he'll,

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Speaker 1: I think he'll have a pleasant experience dealing with an

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Speaker 1: eager Dak Prescott. If I'm Dad, I'm I'm like, man,

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Speaker 1: this guy he coached Aaron Rodgers, Brett farre on the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, but at far I'd be man. I'd be

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Speaker 1: sitting up here on approach waiting on him to come out,

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Speaker 1: press right right. And they had FARV has a serious

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Speaker 1: XM radio show, and he was talking about how he

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Speaker 1: McCarthy would adapt his style to the quarterback. He did

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Speaker 1: that with Montana. I mean, he wasn't in a position

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Speaker 1: of directly he's on the staff, but then working with

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Speaker 1: Farv and Rogers, knowing what those guys liked and tailoring

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Speaker 1: it to their strengths, and so he thinks he thinks

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Speaker 1: it's a good fit reportedly for McCarthy's coming here and

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Speaker 1: do that. But it's yeah, It's just the other thing

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Speaker 1: to me is if if this indeed gets official, what

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Speaker 1: happens with the offensive staff and the and the dynamics there,

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Speaker 1: because I know they like Kellen Moore here but McCarthy's

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Speaker 1: basically run the offense in Green Bay short of maybe

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Speaker 1: one season or part of one season. So how would

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Speaker 1: that work out? Well, you know, you're just talking one

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Speaker 1: the adjustment shouldn't be that difficult. I mean that was

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Speaker 1: something new, the adjustment was this past year. To me,

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Speaker 1: I think it's I would feel a bit of a

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Speaker 1: comfort zone. Uh, Kellen might be a little bit more

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Speaker 1: ambitious than me. He might think, you know, his toes

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Speaker 1: are getting stepped on. I don't know. But if i'm

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Speaker 1: if I'm Kellen, I'm thinking, you know, this is a

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Speaker 1: chance for me to have a cushion. You know, I

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Speaker 1: have a coach here that can really bail me out

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Speaker 1: if I'm in a particular situation. I can't get out though,

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Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, I would love to

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Speaker 1: put the training wheel training wheels back on Keller Moore

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Speaker 1: right now and let let McCarthy take over, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be in the passenger seat trying to learn all

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Speaker 1: I can. To me, that's it's just an opportunity for

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Speaker 1: the young people here on this staff. And we have

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Speaker 1: a bunch of young people it's a chance for the

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Speaker 1: saw so much chaos. Now you you're going to see

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Speaker 1: you more valuable to your team. Yeah, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know. I mean, it'll be different than

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Speaker 1: if McCarthy's calling play. But he didn't have carte blanche

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Speaker 1: effect on this offense, right. Jason Garrett was still kind

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Speaker 1: I never saw him say a word on the side.

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Speaker 1: He just said quite a bit. Okay, yeah, not just

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Speaker 1: to quickly worry about what's going to happen defensively. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's to me, that's what I'm worried. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: you're talking about hiring a coordinator. But okay, what about line? Yes, linebacker? Second?

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Speaker 1: And how did how did he do with in Green Bay?

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Speaker 1: You know what was his style in Green Bay? What?

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Speaker 1: What was it? Who was his care papers? He ran

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Speaker 1: gonna run a forty three with Mike Nolan and used

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Speaker 1: to be head coach of Carolina. Right, No one's done

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Speaker 1: both though, Right, he's run three four and four three.

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Speaker 1: He was back with the Ravens back in the early ots. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: two to four. If you if you run a three four,

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Speaker 1: you're in a lot of nickels. So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of four man line and there's an a lot of

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Speaker 1: hybrid stuff, a lot of hybrid stuff. Look at the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: what they do? I have a call. They played a

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Speaker 1: lot of man to man in Green Bay that I

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Speaker 1: do with call but they don't have three to four

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Speaker 1: personnel Cowboys. Yeah. Yeah, they don't have the big defensive

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Speaker 1: ends that play the three up front. I think Tyron

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00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 1: Crawford could be a defensive end maybe in that scheme

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Speaker 1: if he's healthy and he needs to get heavier though, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because he slimmed down right last year and he has

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Speaker 1: to be healthy. And they don't have enough linebackers for

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Speaker 1: four three. I mean, what is right now? What does

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Speaker 1: Nolan play? What does Nolan coach? He's forty three the usually, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he was the linebacker coach. I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: you could be the coordinator linebacker coach. Double up, uh,

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Speaker 1: and then you would need to see what you're gonna

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Speaker 1: do with the secondary and what you're doing on the

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Speaker 1: defensive line. And there's you know, guys that have been

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Speaker 1: here for a while. You know, does he does he

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Speaker 1: keep Leon let On? Does he keep Andre Gerard, who,

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Speaker 1: by the way, had knee surgery, got injured at practice

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Speaker 1: the last week of the season, rolled rolled up on God,

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00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: I didn't see him on the injury report. Yeah, but

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00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: ever since, right, it's every level of the defense, they

759
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: got question marks with personnel, regardless of it's unbelievable. It's

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00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: not unbelievable, but it's it's a lot of questions. And

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Speaker 1: Robert Quinn leaves, what's your top draft need? Is it

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Speaker 1: to go get an edge rusher? Is it? Or a

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Speaker 1: stand up outside whatever they're gonna do, bra Jon. They

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Speaker 1: took care of that with Tristan Hill last year. Right,

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Speaker 1: you need not not not yet, not yet, you need

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Speaker 1: not only really linebacker. But I believe the only linebackers

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Speaker 1: that are not free agents are Jalen Smith and Layton

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Speaker 1: Vanderish right, and then in the secondary, Byron Jones is

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Speaker 1: a free agent. Jeff Heath is a free agent. C J.

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Speaker 1: Goodwin's a free agent. Who am I missing? I think

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Speaker 1: Daryan Thompson might. Darren Thompson's a free agent. Every time

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Speaker 1: I think of Jeff Heath, I think of Dick Nolan now,

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Speaker 1: but the should remember that's the way Jeff's gonna be

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Speaker 1: looking at about twenty years. Yeah, Malie Collins is a

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Speaker 1: free agent. So really, I mean, with as many questions

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Speaker 1: they have on the roster, it might be an opportune

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Speaker 1: time to reshape the defense. You're gonna have to reshape

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Speaker 1: the defense. No, he's a free agent. Yep. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: got clar down that. By the way he's been at

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Speaker 1: he's put him in the unrestricted category. Okay, then when

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Speaker 1: March comes, he'll be he's in that group. It's not

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Speaker 1: right now, right, but yeah, he's his time's up. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, he's thirty four. What does he

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Speaker 1: want to do? You know, does you want to keep

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Speaker 1: playing or does he want to stay close to home?

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Speaker 1: I always thoughts from these Texas Yeah, he's sort of

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Speaker 1: been a rental player here in the last several years

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Speaker 1: of his career, right, you know, he may not catch

789
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Speaker 1: on with the team until Layton to you know, get

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Speaker 1: closer to training camp. Guy different because where did he go? Philadelphia?

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia for six games and then you're here. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Kyle Yeoman's informs me that when

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Speaker 1: Mike Nolan was most recently a defensive coordinator at Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: it was a four three defense of course, okay, mix right.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that what they have that makes

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Speaker 1: the most sense. But you got to figure this, They've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of hard decisions to make them. I

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Speaker 1: don't called Mike Nolan being a great DC at all.

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember he's been a lot of different places. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I don't call them you're talking to Atlanta. I

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Speaker 1: don't we call them being that effective. I'm guessing that's

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Speaker 1: why he got the head coaching job. But that was

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Speaker 1: the Ravens and oh two through oh four, and I'm

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Speaker 1: about to look them up along the other The other

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Speaker 1: lines that I want to bring up about coaching is

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Speaker 1: when you look at, Okay, the Cowboys. This is since

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, the Cowboys have the eighth best record of

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Speaker 1: the National Football League and of course just one coach

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Speaker 1: during that time. The top twelve teams regular season records

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League since twenty fourteen, New England

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Speaker 1: obviously has the most wins Number two Kansas City, three Seattle, four, Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: five Green Bay with Mike McCarthy primarily during that time,

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Speaker 1: six New Orleans, seven, Minnesota, eight, Dallas, nine Baltimore, ten Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: eleven Houston, and twelve Carolina. All Right, those twelve teams,

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Speaker 1: what is the common denominator there? They basically have had

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Speaker 1: one head coaches. In fact, there's only two of those

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Speaker 1: twelve teams that have had multiple head coaches since two

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Speaker 1: thy fourteen, and that would be Green Bay. McCarthy was

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Speaker 1: there until four games left in the twenty eighteen seasons,

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Speaker 1: so then one year of Matt Lafleur, and then Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: had Chip Kelly in fourteen and fifteen, and then Doug

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Speaker 1: Peterson took over in twenty sixteen. All Right, the bottom

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Speaker 1: twenty teams record wise since two thy fourteen, twenty teams

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Speaker 1: have gone through fifty two head coaches, Bill, you have

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Speaker 1: anything else to do? Fifty two head coaches for twenty

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Speaker 1: teams over six seasons, and the top twelve have gone

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Speaker 1: through fourteen head coaches. So there's something to be said

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Speaker 1: for continuity in the national area has always said that,

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Speaker 1: And how many of those top twelve now have retained

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Speaker 1: their same coaches? Well, and then now Carolina just Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Carolina just changed Dallas just changed Green Bay a year ago,

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Speaker 1: and that's it. That's it. Yeah, So the bottom line

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Speaker 1: is what did you do for me? Now? The bottom

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Speaker 1: line is the regular season doesn't mean crap if you

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Speaker 1: can't win in the playoffs. Well, and most of those teams,

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Speaker 1: most of those you look at the playoff record of

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Speaker 1: those teams, I'm sure it's gonna switch a little bit. Well, actually,

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Speaker 1: even if you look at some teams on the let's say,

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Speaker 1: let's say the rain here we go. I got the

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Speaker 1: playoff record since twenty fourteen. Since twenty fourteen, New England

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Speaker 1: twelve and three in the playoffs with three Super Bowl wins. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City two and four in the playoffs. Okay, Andy Reid.

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Speaker 1: That's why Andy Reid gets criticized in the playoffs. Seattle

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll four and four in the playoffs since twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 1: with a Super Bowl loss. Pittsburgh Mike Tomlin three and

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Speaker 1: four in the playoffs, Green Bay Mike McCarthy. He is

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Speaker 1: four and three with two wins over the Cowboys. Otherwise

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Speaker 1: he'd be two and three, like Jason should be. New

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Speaker 1: Orleans Sehn Peyton, Sean Payton two and four in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Now we're blame the West for that since twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Mike zimmer is now three and two in the playoffs. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Phila Dallas two and three with Garrett Baltimore Harball one

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Speaker 1: and two in the playoffs since twenty fourteen. Then you

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Speaker 1: had Philadelphia, of course won it. I didn't. Four and two.

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Speaker 1: Is Doug Peterson now four and three with the loss

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Speaker 1: this week, Houston O'Brien is, I had him down as

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Speaker 1: two and three. I'm not sure if I updated it

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Speaker 1: after the playoff win, that would put him at three

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Speaker 1: and three, and then Ron rivera three and three. Interesting now,

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Speaker 1: but the bottom twenty there's not very much in the

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Speaker 1: way of playoffs, so there's not much of a discrepancy

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Speaker 1: between that's a successful Super Bowl wins versus down here

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Speaker 1: and that exactly exactly. It's such a fine line between

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Speaker 1: winning and losing in this line so much. But I

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Speaker 1: said this on their podcast yesterday, the difference and why

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Speaker 1: ultimately one reason why they've banned the change, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: is they've been on this roller coaster of make the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: miss the playoffs throughout Jason Garrett's tenure here, and you

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Speaker 1: look at teams like Baltimore and then the NFC Philly

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Speaker 1: and New Orleans the last three years Seattle. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to who else makes makes it? Saints. They give themselves

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Speaker 1: chances in the tournament over and over again. That's what

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Speaker 1: they're trying to do super Bowl. How many all these

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Speaker 1: teams that we're talking about, if won won, Yes, but

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Speaker 1: it's hard to do. But trying to give yourself chance

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Speaker 1: after chance. That's what you're trying to do. Here's the

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Speaker 1: difference between these teams and Jason Garrett. Prior to twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 1: those coaches won Super Bowl, you know, yeah, and he

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Speaker 1: went eight. Nandy Reid hasn't, right because he's in Philadelphia before. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City's another one though. Pete Carroll has, Mike Tomlin has,

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Speaker 1: Michael MacCarthy has has John Harbaugh who is just one

882
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: in two since twenty fourteen has won a Super Bowl,

883
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Speaker 1: though Doug Peterson has. What about Jim Harbaugh? And well

884
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: he lost to his brother in the Super Bowl and

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00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: every year he's got to deal with the New England

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00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: Patriots and a bunch of those Super Bowl wins are

887
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: ten years old, right, yeah, right, But the difference, there's

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00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: the difference. These are the Dallas Cowboys. That's it. That

889
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: is the only difference. Yes, so right mate, That's where

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00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: the focus is Nationally, that's where the focus is. And

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00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: the word is expectations and that's that's that's the key word.

892
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: And some of what Jason Garrett had to pay for

893
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: it has been twenty five years old. It's not his

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00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 1: fault that they hadn't been back to a super Bowl

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Speaker 1: since ninety five. There's been a lot of coaches. A

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00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: lot of coaches had a hand in that, right how

897
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: many Sweatzer, Chan, Gaily, Campbell, ourselves, Bill and Wade. That's five.

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Speaker 1: I forget anybody got everybody since when they hired Jason Garrett,

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Speaker 1: it was a promise that I think it was. That

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Speaker 1: was the promise from Jerry Jones that this is the

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Speaker 1: change they we're gonna make. This is the guy. He's

902
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Speaker 1: our typical Dallas cowboy. We always like being hired from

903
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Speaker 1: within because he was a quarterback for the Cowboys. So

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Speaker 1: the expectation there early on was that he's my this

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Speaker 1: is my guy right here. All the other guys we

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Speaker 1: got these problems. You know, the coaches didn't like Bill Parcells,

907
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Speaker 1: Chan Gailey didn't have the talent. No, Jason gats gonna

908
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Speaker 1: come in here. He knows this team, he knows this organization.

909
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Speaker 1: We know him, and there was a safety zone that

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Speaker 1: we had created to where the expectation was gonna be

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the super Bowl with with this guy,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna get it. And they handed him on

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Speaker 1: one in seventeen yeah, and they did spend the early

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Speaker 1: part of his tenure rebuilding the offensive line and all that.

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Speaker 1: But you do look at the end of this tenure

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Speaker 1: and they still The last time they made back to

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Speaker 1: back postseason appearances was two thousand and seven. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's been a long time, and this is the only

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Speaker 1: year they didn't have an excuse. There were excuses well

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Speaker 1: every prior to that. And I agree with you, like

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Speaker 1: I said, he's been unlucky in a lot of ways.

922
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Speaker 1: But Mike McCarthy has had Aaron Rodgers break his collarbone

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Speaker 1: two and where did they go? They had a losing record,

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Speaker 1: well and didn't go to the playoffs. Mick, we could

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Speaker 1: nickpick every team that doesn't have things go their way

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Speaker 1: over here. No, but I'm saying you mentioned, you mentioned McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: and I'm saying there was a he had a losing season.

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Speaker 1: Jason had this thing on a roll. They had what

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Speaker 1: three consecutive winning seasons. This was the this was the one.

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Speaker 1: It's like I said, what did you do for me? Now?

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Speaker 1: Expectation right, because of expectations right period. No one else's

932
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Speaker 1: expectations are as lofty as as the Cowboys are every year,

933
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Speaker 1: and this year was even more special because we put

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Speaker 1: the money out there. I mean, think about when McCarthy

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Speaker 1: didn't go to the playoffs in twenty seventeen, when when

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers got hurt. Who was the quarterback? Some guy

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Speaker 1: named Hunley Brett, Hunley Brett Hunley UCLA. Okay, So when

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys missed in twenty fifteen with Romo, who were

939
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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks? Right? Castle, serious, Castle, they should have stuck

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Speaker 1: with Whedon. Oh boy, you bring up those names year? Right?

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Speaker 1: They went four and twelve for a reason. Let's put

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Speaker 1: that out of my mind. Almost put that out of

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Speaker 1: my mind after that. Okay, on that note, we move on,

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Speaker 1: we do. Okay, We're gonna have a press converse see

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Speaker 1: what tomorrow brands and the very near future, and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk at you next week here on Talking Cowboys. This

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