1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It. 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: To show that takes a deep dive into the biggest 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 2: stories in sports, entertainment, and culture. 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Start with headline news and then journey to. 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: Deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: in every single story. I'm your host ourself swally that dude, 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: y'all ain't even gotta say nothing. I don't even need 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: to hear it. I don't even need to ask you could. 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: I already know it. I'm looking good right now, y'all. 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Ain't gotta lie. I got vacation body. You know how 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: that goes. You start cutting them, carves back, getting ready 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: to hit that flight land, go to that pool. 13 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: Take it off, and act the food. That's how I'm 14 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: feeling right now. I'm gonna tell y'all what's cracking. Y'all 15 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 2: know how we start off every show? Well, what's up 16 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: with that? 17 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Dude? Well? 18 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: Always got love for you, guys, because you got love 19 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: for me, got love for the show. 20 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: So we got a swag away gift right here. 21 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: Best selling book for I may say soul myself, Amazona Grease. 22 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: Never shut up for you, guys. 23 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: All you have to do is go down there project 24 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: Transition dot org. Leave your email if you ain't got 25 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: your county check yet, or leave a donation if you 26 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: got paid on the first but after fifteenth, and you 27 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: could leave a recurring donation if you got your whole 28 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: month's payment right there. 29 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: And then guess what. 30 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: You're a part of the team, supporting the community, supporting 31 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: the itdy biddies. When you do that, you know what 32 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: I do. I go in that closet and I got 33 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: some things in there. Look what I got today. I 34 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: stayed at the crib. I like this one. I told 35 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: y'all every single day, to the end of my life, 36 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna show y'all some of these throwbacks. This is 37 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: that both Kimball right there. Y'all try to challenge me, like, 38 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: oh boy, you ain't got them throwbacks. I am Mitchell 39 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: and Nest. So got love for you guys for supporting 40 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: the foundation and supporting the show. 41 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: All right. 42 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: What else happened yesterday after the show? Took my boy 43 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: to taekwondo. Y'all know we do that weekly. 44 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: He's a brown belt right now, so that basically he'll 45 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: kick yo bud. He could get at me, but I'm 46 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: a little big out of his division and weight class. 47 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: But nah, seriously, he is very good in taekwondo because 48 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: he loves it. We were the same parent as everyone else, 49 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: trying to buffet out every single sport, had him in 50 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: twelve different things, and. 51 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: He got of an age. I said around five or six, 52 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: I said, hey, enough is enough. Pick three things, little 53 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: man that you want to do. I don't care what 54 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: they were gonna be. If it was gonna be Miss 55 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: pac Man, we playing Miss pac Man. All your parents 56 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 2: who were clowning them kids for playing video games feel foolish, now, 57 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: don't you suckers out there making hundreds of millions of 58 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: dollars playing video games. 59 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: So he could have said Miss pac Man. 60 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: They would have flew with me, But he said taekwondo 61 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: because he wants to be a ninja that's starting to fade. 62 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 2: He wants to be a baby blader now. Football and 63 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: basketball simple. So yesterday at taekwondo, my brown belt's son 64 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: went out there and went against a twelve year old 65 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: girl who was a black and red belt. So if 66 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: you know belts, she's supposed to whoop him up. And 67 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: they were playing this chicken fight. Y'all, ever do chicken 68 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: fight where you hold one leg up and you're bouncing 69 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: around on pogo stick on the other leg and you're 70 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: trying to knock the other person down. Wait till I 71 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: post these videos of this eight year old boy with 72 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: that brown belt slanging that chicken around. It was hilarious. 73 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: He was whipping that class. But so that was fun 74 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: to see. I'll show you all that on social Other 75 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: than that, I had a meeting last night. I can't 76 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: give you too many details just yet. You know me 77 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: always protect the guilty. But Project Transition is going global. Yes, 78 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna leave the borders of the United States of 79 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: America into the territory of the United World. Yes, we 80 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: are going to go beyond our borders. It's gonna be 81 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: really exciting. We're just gonna scale what Project Transition is. 82 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: With your support, we'll be able to do that. But 83 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: with this infrastructure, this entity and their partnership is gonna happen, 84 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: and it's gonna happen fast. So really excited about that level. 85 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: You have these meetings, somebody's in the suit. Then you 86 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: know the ladies in what they call them women's suits, 87 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: eighty suits. 88 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell. And then me, I 89 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: just show up. 90 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: Against that Russell Raider had T shirt and khakis because 91 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: it ain't about. 92 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: What I'm wearing. 93 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: It's about what I'm sharing, right And y'all know I'm caring, 94 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: so don't be there, let me stop. 95 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 1: So we had a good time. 96 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: I was pounding that drank, just talking that dog, letting 97 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: them know I've walked this walk in terms of philanthropy. 98 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: Really excited about that. 99 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: Other than that, y'all know what's happening right now. It's 100 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: kind of weird, but I'm gonna have to tell y'all 101 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: because y'all my family. I'm actually doing this show while 102 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: I'm doing a photo video shoot right now. Yeah, somebody 103 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: right now trying to catch me on my good side, 104 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: but he on the wrong side because that's my good side. 105 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: But then when you get over there, gonna be like 106 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: that ain't good either. So Nah, we're really doing well 107 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: right now. And it's for a partnership of sponsorship that 108 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: I will alert you to once the video and photos 109 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: are done, So look forward to that, all right. You 110 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: know what I'm looking forward to now seeing this new 111 00:04:54,080 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: WWE yes Ultimate Fighting Championship and World Wrestling Entertainment. W 112 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: WE completed that high profile merger and now they call 113 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: it TKO Holdings Group, which will be again trading on 114 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: Wall Street. So you know they got that dollar now 115 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: some money, and it's gonna be under the symbol of TKO. 116 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: They announced this like months ago, like five months ago, 117 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: and now it has finally happened. 118 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: So I want to hear y'all reaction to that already. 119 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: Y'all got to keep listening to me because I know 120 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: y'all already typing away, dog, this is gonna be crazy, right. 121 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: So we got UFC's parent company and Endeavor with WWE. 122 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: That's the merger right there. 123 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: And WWE is no longer primarily owned by a member 124 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: of the McMahon family. That's crazy, right, first time in 125 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: its history. So Endeavor now owns fifty one percent of 126 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: the new company, where there WWE shareholders owning the other 127 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: forty nine percent. Sixteen point four y'all want to care 128 00:05:59,480 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: about the point? 129 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: Fork of the. 130 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: Matters is owned now by the former WWE CEO, Vince 131 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: Mick mahon. You know I'm thinking right now because y'all 132 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: know me, So y'all know who I know over there, 133 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: Nick Khan. Wonder how much my man Nick Cohn got 134 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: in there. You got that point four or a little more. 135 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: So the merger is hardly the end for McMahon. So 136 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: for y'all who think that the visionary is gonna go 137 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: and take the back seat, not about to happen. He's 138 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: still gonna take over the TKOS executive chairman titles so 139 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: CEO Rio Emanuel, who I guess they did entourage about, right, man, 140 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: he living a life is gonna serve in the same 141 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: role for the new company. Break this down all right, Now, 142 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: what comes with a merger is all the love and 143 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: all the riches, and they just complement each other, supplement 144 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: each other, add it all up. 145 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: But with that addition. 146 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: Symbol, if you really squint, there's gonna be some subtraction 147 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 2: signs as well. Why because they're gonna be people in 148 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: same roles, multiple people, multiple. 149 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: Jobs, same title. 150 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: So in a merger, hey, senior VP of Media relations 151 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: on that side meet senior of media relations on that side. 152 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to work that out. So unfortunately, some 153 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: people will lose their jobs. Let's just go all the 154 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: way back. WWE nineteen fifty three is when they first 155 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: had controlling interest in the company, when it was first founded, 156 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: So a lot of changes for them right now, give 157 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: you a couple of quotes for I give you my 158 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: full take on it. Ariol Manuel said, look, I would 159 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: have body slammed him if he thought he was going 160 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: to leave. Speaking of Vince McMahon, No way was he 161 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: going to leave. Here is a man who has seen 162 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: around the corners at every beat over the last forty 163 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: years of this business and has a vision for where 164 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: this business is going, way before a lot of people 165 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: see it. Him Now being able to utilize what we 166 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: have built and our flywheel, I'm the luckiest guy in 167 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: the world. Now, what is Endeavor's flywhell y'all know what 168 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: that is? Just go to their website first. So let 169 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: me just help y'all out. Y'all can pause me. It's okay, 170 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: I'll be here. You know what I'm saying. This is streaming. 171 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: I'll be here on demand, right But point being the 172 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: umbrella of services and holdings that they have. 173 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: Now you plug in them into this, you got a 174 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: whole different animal like you made this hybrid. 175 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 2: You done made a liker, remember those lions and tiger 176 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: likeer got a likeer going on right now. So I'm 177 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 2: really excited to see how this merger is going to 178 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: play out in terms of making it even grander in 179 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: what the WWE and the UFC can do together. Just 180 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: think about the integrations you could get from the stars 181 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: of both sports. Think about not only the integrations, but 182 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: the partnerships, how they can go out there in the 183 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: coalition of efforts and make things happen. Gonna be crazy, 184 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: and they all got their own media rights. UFC is 185 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: under contract with ESPN to twenty twenty five, so that 186 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: means even more money's coming because when that contract ends, 187 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: either ESPN's and and he's up, or somebody else jumps 188 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: in there and tries to take them, maybe one of 189 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 2: these streaming. 190 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: Services Amazon, Apple, et cetera. And WWE has separate deals. 191 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 2: They got NBC Universal, they got Fox and that ends 192 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: at the end of October of next year, so they're 193 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: gonna go to the table first. And they also got 194 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: an exclusive deal with Peacock to Air's premium Live events, 195 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 2: which expires in twenty twenty six. Okay, now we gotta 196 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: talk about the biggest change we're gonna see, and we 197 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: gotta talk about the things we expect to see the same. 198 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: I think the biggest change is going to be really 199 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: that integration, that interdependence. I'm over here, you over here, 200 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: we together in here, which is gonna be great for 201 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: the fans because I'm a fan of both, more UFC 202 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: than WWE. 203 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: Everybody they had that moment. Don't lie to me. You're 204 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: growing up for me. 205 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: I think I was thirteen on the way the football 206 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: practice was gonna be late because I had to see 207 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: h Hogan go get it. And then somebody it's always 208 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: the homie, right, the same one that told you Santa 209 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: Claus wasn't real come up to you, Tombo man, Them 210 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: dudes ain't really wrestling you, Tomba. You about to hit 211 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: him with the elbow? You about the people champions that right? 212 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: And he like that ain't really wrestling. They out there 213 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: faking it. I got mad. You mean faking it? They 214 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: ain't faking it. This ain't gonna be fake when I 215 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: hit you, but move by, I'll be late to practice 216 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: and I need to watch this right, And then it happened. 217 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: Then you start squinting and you start saying, wait a minute. 218 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: It's kind of like when you watch a movie for 219 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: the first time and you're like, oh no, the stunt 220 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: man too. You didn't think it was just Denzel not well, 221 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 2: actually is Tom Cruise. 222 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: But the point is you're like, is that a really what? Oh? 223 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: Hell no? Right? 224 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: And if you could ever see the stunt man in 225 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: the movie that is a cheap movie, that's soul playing 226 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: or something like that, right. 227 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: So I just remember that moment and it really changed. 228 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: I was mad. 229 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: I was like, dag, why you tell me that? And 230 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 2: I couldn't look at it the same. Iron Sheek didn't 231 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: look the same to me anymore. So I'm not there 232 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: anymore in terms of like all in, but you ever 233 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: go to one of those events, I feel like a 234 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: kid again. So looking forward to that and salute to 235 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: one of my favorite people in this world, seriously always, 236 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: Nick Khan. 237 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: And you guys know how he inspired me. 238 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: He inspired me to come out and be independent instead 239 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: of just hiding behind the veil of mass media and 240 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: the medium of being on the desk. He told me 241 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 2: when he got the call from Vince McMahon the he 242 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: was on vacation and he was my agent at the time. 243 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: I was his client when he was not that big. 244 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: Let's just say he got huge, and I was like, 245 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 2: damn and I was hooking him up with clients and stuff. 246 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: I was like, I love this dude. 247 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: He's the best most effective, efficient human being I've ever met. 248 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: I'm serious, like, man, a few words but many actions, 249 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 2: and I love Nick Khan. First time we met, we 250 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: had our meeting at some nice hotel Beverly Hills or something, 251 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: right one of those restaurant lobbies then were coming out 252 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: and some dudes is in the like black blazer windows tenant, 253 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: roll it down like he should not and go like this, 254 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: hey Wyley, come here, boy, what you talking about? 255 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: Boy? And guess what? 256 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: Before I can even respond, guess who went over there? No, no, no, 257 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 2: Nick Kahan got in the middle. I was like, boy, 258 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 2: this ain't in the contract, but you signed. 259 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: What is up? 260 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: Always been a great person, man, that's taking care of 261 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: me and my family. 262 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: To the fullest extent. He told me. 263 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: He said, Man, he get to a certain age, you 264 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: got a swing for the fences. He's like, it's just 265 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: a certain time you got to swing for the fences. 266 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: Right now, we all know if you swing for the fences, 267 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: you're either gonna get two things home. 268 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,479 Speaker 1: Run or probably a strikeout. 269 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: Right, And thank god, I've been able to hit the 270 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: ground running with your support and not strike out in 271 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: these efforts. And he went from being a super agent 272 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: at CAAA to running the WWE as a president. 273 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: So salute to my man, Nick con and this merger. 274 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: I'm certain that this is not gonna change any part 275 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: of you, but it's gonna change everything around you. Add 276 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: some more levels to that home you got man, in 277 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: that beautiful family of your salute to them. So tell 278 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: me what you guys expect to change the biggest and 279 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: what you expect to say same? And are you excited 280 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: for this merger? I ain't gotta say nothing. I see 281 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: them too. Yeah, gun show yeah yeah aar right here, 282 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: aka right here, it's your boy right here. Never shut up. 283 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 2: This is the swag away item for you. What do 284 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: you get all these sweep steakes items, Marsalis And how 285 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 2: do I join the team, Well, you go down there 286 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: Project Transition dot org. Leave your email, just that simple. 287 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: So I need to see all y'all emails. I see 288 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: thousands and thousands of comments. We got hundreds of thousands 289 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 2: of subscribers. 290 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: I need to see that many emails or you can done. 291 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 2: And if you donate, you support the foundation and all 292 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: the ity biddies that we're trying to not only discover 293 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: what their inner power is, but amplify that for the 294 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 2: world to see. And while doing that, I'll hook you 295 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 2: up because that's who I am. Mama said, never show 296 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: up to the party and be empty handed. So I 297 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: brought my cup and I'm chipping in. 298 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: See that. 299 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: So now let's talk about something that's going down in 300 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: the NFL right now with Jim Trotter, who sues the NFL. 301 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: Sue in the NFL sounds interesting, right, especially when you 302 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: used to work for the NFL network. Now you work 303 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: for the athletic covering football, or at least you used 304 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: to because now they switched this role to cover all 305 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: the other sports while this lawsuit ensued. So it's a 306 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: retaliation discrimination lawsuit. Let's take you to the beats of 307 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: this for I give you that breakdown, ah Man, he's 308 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: a leegend racial discret termination retaliation. That first contract was 309 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: not renewed earlier this year. 310 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: Now we know who Jim Trotter is, right. 311 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: I met Jim Trotter when I was a San Diego Charger. 312 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: He was a beat writer. 313 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 2: Hope I'm not insulting him, but he was in the 314 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: locker room every single day for San Diego Union Tribune, 315 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: and I remember just connecting with him. And it wasn't 316 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: just because he was black, now you know what I mean. 317 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: He won the first black reporter I seen. I connected 318 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: with him because I was like, damn, it seemed like 319 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: he really knows what's going on, not only with this 320 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: team team team that means teammates, organization upstairs, but also 321 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: this community because I was big in the community then 322 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: and wanted to obviously make some inroads there. 323 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: So we just bonded. Now, can't lie. 324 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: I used to tell Jim Trotter a little too much, 325 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: never too much, never too much? 326 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: Where's that from? Oh Man? 327 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: We were on a phone chopping it up like Mail 328 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: Tucker and that lady. Not like that for real, but 329 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: like talking. I'd be like, I'm like, yeah, man, tell 330 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: you what happened at practice today? Who Marty Schartenheimer, Marty 331 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: Shimer rest in peace, the great oh Man, Mike Riley Man. Look, 332 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: I was running this play and then Junior ran this 333 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: and Rock I'm just telling them all our business. And 334 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: he never burned me, never outed me. Matter of fact, 335 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: I used to tell my teammates I was like, y'ah, 336 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: I hate to tell you, but I'm the team snitch. 337 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: And they were like, man, why these shut up? And 338 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: I was like, no, I tell everything. So we had 339 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: a tremendous relationship and we still do even though we've 340 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: disagreed on some issues before. So that's lets you know, 341 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: we got a real friendship. We don't always kumbai yai. 342 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: So ahead of this year Super Bowl that just passed, 343 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: Trotter ass Commissioner Roger Goodell at a nationally televised news 344 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: conference about the NFL networks lack of black executives. All 345 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: right network, Okay, And months later his contract was not renewed. Coincidence, 346 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: h T thing not so the NFL's claiming there wants 347 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: to be held accountable regarding diversity, equity and inclusure, Trotter said. 348 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: He said, I tried to do so, and it cost 349 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: me my job. 350 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 2: I'm founding this lawsuit because I can't complain about things 351 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 2: that are wrong if I'm unwilling to fight for what 352 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: is right. 353 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: Wrote that statement right there. 354 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 2: So the NFL responded, we take his concerns seriously, but 355 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 2: strongly dispute his specific allegations, particularly those made against his 356 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: dedicated colleagues at NFL media. 357 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: All right, So. 358 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 2: Mister Trotter's departure from NFL media was one of the 359 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: many difficult decisions that everyone is seen involving sports media 360 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: and media organizations, right, ESPN layoffs, shake up at Fox, 361 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 2: et cetera. 362 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: Right. So it's a challenging economy and a changing media environment. 363 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: So the NFL is going to be able to at 364 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: least lay out that ass cover saying, Hey, people lose 365 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: their jobs all the time, people lead their jobs all 366 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: the time, people switch jobs all the time. Why do 367 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 2: we want to go to that deeper level saying it 368 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: was discrimination or retaliation? 369 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: Hmmm. 370 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: Sound like a strong case for the NFL. Let's see 371 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: how strong Jim Trotter's case is right now. So one 372 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 2: of the specific claims is that the Dallas Cowboys owner 373 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: Jerry Jerry Jones, why there wasn't more black people in 374 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: decision making roles in the NFL. He asked them that, 375 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: And well, here's, according to him, the quote from Jerry Jones, 376 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 2: if blacks feel some kind of way, they. 377 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: Should buy their own team and hire who they. 378 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: Want to hire. Let's talk about that quote right there. 379 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: If blacks feel some kind of way. They should buy 380 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: their own team and hire who they want to hire. 381 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: Not gonna say Jerry Jones said that it not because 382 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: it wasn't there. Can't do that, all right, But I 383 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: can do this. If this was said by anybody, what's 384 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 2: the good, bad, and ugly of this quote? You feel 385 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: a certain way? You should buy your own team, hire 386 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 2: what they want to hire. Here's the ugly truth of 387 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: the matter of NFL ownership. If you own the NFL team, 388 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: would you give it up? I didn't hear anybody say yes. 389 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: No everyone, No one's it's a cash cow. What's fatter 390 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 1: than the cow? I don't know. 391 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: It's a cash rhino, hippo. It's printing money. 392 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: So no one's going to give it up. 393 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 2: Here's the bigger problem, if you're talking from this scope 394 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: like Jim. 395 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: Trotter, is. 396 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: If you're not white, you didn't get in there early 397 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 2: enough to not give it up or to give it up. 398 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: And that's the problem. No one's giving it up. 399 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: Oh, they just happen to be white, because we know 400 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: of our country's history and how they had to head 401 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: starting blah blah blah. But point being, no one's gonna 402 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 2: give it up, like they're two two separate issues. One is, okay, 403 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: the racial systemic issues that allow white people to have 404 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: advancements that black people wouldn't have. 405 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: You got that conversation. But then there's a reality of 406 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: what they have they have and what you have? You have? 407 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: Now, what you have, would you ever give it up? 408 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 2: If it were this? That's the rub okay. So getting 409 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: back to that in terms of Jerry Jones, if he 410 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: said that it's the worst part of it is black people, 411 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: like you know, grouping all of it. If y'all feel 412 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: that way, do something about it, which is a call 413 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: to action. But at the same time, a little sting 414 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: in there. He's not done. He talked about the Buffalo 415 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: Bills owner as well. So when I got a chance 416 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: to meet as well, when I went back to. 417 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: Buffalo the Ring of Honor ceremony, what you do. 418 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 2: You gotta go out there and get the fans all 419 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: charged up, run on the field. 420 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: Amazing experience. 421 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 2: Terry Pugola, the owner of the Bills, he said, quoting 422 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: to Jim Trotter, if the black players don't like it here, 423 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: they should go back to. 424 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: Africa and see how bad it is. 425 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: Come on, doc, now we got receipts with this, because 426 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 2: Jim Trotter is a reporter. I know he used to 427 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: keep around that damn recorder with me. 428 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: If he got receipts on this, whoa. 429 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: But regardless, it's still obviously something that they're gonna have 430 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 2: to negate, and they have come out publicly saying this 431 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 2: is absolutely false, and I'm horrified that anyone will connect 432 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: me to an allegation of this cond Okay, so now 433 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: we have this lawsuit. Let me tell you what I 434 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: feel about this lawsuit. I've had interactions with all the 435 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 2: people involved in this lawsuit, Jerry, Jerry Jones, and Jim Trotter. 436 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: Right, so I get all of that. Now, here's the thing. 437 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 2: I can vouch for knowing the man and not be 438 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: able to vouch for knowing the moment or knowing that 439 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: man's mindset and full right. You ever see that on 440 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: eyewitness news when somebody gets killed or somebody robs somebody, 441 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: and then they go to the neighbor's house and the 442 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: neighbors always saying. 443 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: The same damn thing. I'm shocked. He's such a quiet kid, 444 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: he never done anything. 445 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: Well, you're shocked because you're over there trying to vouch 446 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: for everything. 447 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: I don't vouch for everything. 448 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: I know Jerry Jones is being a great professional, great 449 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: business mind, great businessman, charismatic. I told you the story 450 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: of when I first met him and signed with him. 451 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: Gave me a pin. Turns out that pen was worth 452 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. 453 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: Why'd you give me that? And you could have just 454 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: increased my signing bonus. But every time I see Jerry Jones, 455 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: and it's been many a time's last time I saw 456 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: him was in Vegas a month or two ago. Tremendous guy, 457 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: but a tremendous guy who could have said this or 458 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: could not have said this. 459 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: I have nothing to go there with, but I will 460 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: go here. 461 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: I had this conversation with a lawyer before, and he 462 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: was talking about when someone leaves a job, that especially 463 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 2: that job is based on subjective value. 464 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: Media is subjective value. 465 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: You're great at it, you're not great at it? What 466 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: are you using as your objective measure? You can't even 467 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: say the ratings because the ratings are flawed, you know 468 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: what I mean? Times ratings come out Nielsen ratings, which 469 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: is being shifted already. We know that it's better metric 470 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: systems out there. Than just the Nielsen ratings. That's why 471 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: they got into it, and they wanted to get behind 472 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: the scenes with Amazon. 473 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: And their numbers. 474 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 2: That's why they want to get the back end of 475 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: what we're doing in metrics here, in terms of YouTube, etc. 476 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: Because Nilsen is archaic, so you can't even say ratings. 477 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: All that show is rating tremendously. Well, maybe it's just 478 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: bar background noise and visuals and no one's really watching it, 479 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: you know. Sometimes it's just, hey, TVs are on everywhere 480 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: as a collective. So in this media business, when you're 481 00:23:54,520 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: subjectively valued, be careful when you say discrimination, even racial discrimination. 482 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: That's what the lawyer told me. Had this conversation a 483 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. Right, it was somebody I was 484 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 2: working with. They were going to leave, thought that they 485 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: had been done wrong, and I was like, interesting, what 486 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: are your claims and heard his claims and then they 487 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 2: got racial. I was like, well, they fired white people too, 488 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: they fired black people too. So it just is kind 489 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 2: of interesting to see where this is gonna go for 490 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: Jim Trotter. I know the NFL network, I know NFL media, 491 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: I know the NFL at large is gonna be able to. 492 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: Say Hey, guess what, bruh. A lot of people gotta 493 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: let go. 494 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: And then Jim Trotter's gonna either have to come out 495 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: with those receipts or I think the way that he 496 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: wins this case is simple that he said he finds 497 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: something a connective point that was actually objective. They told him, 498 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: they wrote to him, you are getting this gig going forward, 499 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 2: and then that shifted in one point eighty just because 500 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: of his interview with Roger Goodell. Other than that, they 501 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 2: gonna end up and cover. They're gonna end up saying 502 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: we fire some white people too. Sorry to say sorry, 503 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: that's how to go. So how do we think this 504 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: is gonna impact the NFL at large? I mean, you 505 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 2: got two owners being charged with racial discrimination and saying 506 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: some let's just say, saying some things that are highly 507 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 2: insensitive at the least. And do we think Trotter's gonna 508 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: take it all the way? He has the same lawyer, 509 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: same law firm that Brian Flores employed, and we know 510 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: he has his league wide discrimination cases well for the 511 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: hiring practices in head coaching services. So tell me where 512 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 2: y'all think this is gonna go. I think the NFL 513 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 2: sounds guilty. NFL sounds innocid. Trotter sounds like it's a 514 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: tough case for you. Are Trotter, Hey, you got something there. 515 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: You may win this. I'm smiling from ear to ear 516 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: right now because of this next topic right here, just 517 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: to bring balance to the conversation. But first, I'm ia 518 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: bring this book to the conversation. Hopefully bring it to 519 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 2: your mailbox. You have to do is look down there 520 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 2: Project Transition dot org and I see you guys every 521 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: single day logging on and donating, and I appreciate it 522 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 2: as you get that appreciation. 523 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: Email from me. Now you're in the database. 524 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: Now we're gonna start having some fun together and supporting 525 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: the community as well as sending you random items and 526 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: sweet stakes items. This is a boat kimble l mu 527 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: whoa they were banging when they were. 528 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: Out there getting with boat kimble man. 529 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: Rest in peace to Hank Gathers right, all that love 530 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 2: when they had it all right, let's talk about this 531 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 2: piece that I read. I don't know why this piece 532 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 2: came across to me, baby. 533 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: No, I do know why. Let me stop. What is 534 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: going on with this world and. 535 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: These bots out here, like these microphones and I don't 536 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: know what the hell Siri is doing. But Siria is 537 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: a snitch cause I did the Mel Tucker on piece 538 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 2: yesterday and learnally I'm just looking at the TV and 539 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: then I'm on the computer and on my phone, and 540 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: then USAY Today, which I love US Say Today, but 541 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: I haven't read it in a while because I only 542 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: read it really when I'm traveling, Like you know, you 543 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: go to your hotel, you walk out, Oh, here's the 544 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 2: USA Today. 545 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: I loved the little red and purple and green like 546 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: you remember nothing, But I haven't read Usay Today. In 547 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: a minute. 548 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: I read like other articles and other websites whatever, it's 549 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: nothing to it, but this one came US Savior Today, 550 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 2: Mark Shells, and I said, okay, sports columnist Nancy Armoor. 551 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: I said, oh, I've heard of her before. Let's talk 552 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: through it. 553 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 2: And then it said mail Tucker tip for misogynistic men, 554 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 2: stop thinking. 555 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: You're entitled to what you aren't. 556 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: You know, I'm interested in hearing what she had to say, 557 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: so I edited it for when she talked about basically 558 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 2: Mail Tucker or men in general. She talks about other 559 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: guys as well, but that's not my audience. We talked 560 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: about mail Tucker over here. So she says, this really 561 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 2: isn't that hard. 562 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: Whether you are the father of a. 563 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: Daughter or a girl, Dad had tag is irrelevant. Anything 564 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: else that uses the women in your life has covered 565 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 2: for your bad behavior too, Okay, already taking exception. Okay, 566 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: the existence of women in your life, or the pride 567 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: that you show for your daughters or for your wife, etc. 568 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: Does not mean that you're using that as a shield 569 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 2: or cover. 570 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: Right. And let's be real. 571 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: If we are talking about men who are misogynistic, and 572 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 2: that's still under debate in this conversation, but even if 573 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: we are. 574 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: Two things can be right at the same time. 575 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: I am a proud girl, dad, I am proud of 576 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: the women in my life. And also, guess what I'm 577 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: out here, worn't flirting with the cute girl who flirting 578 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: back with me? Right, the misogynistic Let's just pause on 579 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: that just now. Okay, So she says, you aren't entitled 580 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: to women's bodies, absolutely correct, or their affections. 581 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: You're not entitled anything in this world, you know me. 582 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: I don't like no entitlements or anything that will force 583 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: them to between speaking out and saving their jobs, their livelihoods, 584 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: or their self worth. Okay, now we're starting to slide 585 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: down a slope of actually suggesting that women are at 586 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 2: the mercy of men in these conversations. If we're talking 587 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: about mel Tucker, if we're talking about the workplace relationships, 588 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: let's just say that is a balance in act. Let 589 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: me give it to you like this. You can generalize 590 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 2: and say men have more power than women in the workplace. Okay, 591 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: and certain places that's true. Most places may be true, 592 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: but not all places. But I can tell you what 593 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: is always true anywhere you go. 594 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: You want to hear absolute, I get it absolute. 595 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: Be a woman and look at a man in the workplace, 596 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: and if he wants you, guess what. 597 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: You are the one who is wanted. 598 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: You are the one in the position of power to 599 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: make that relationship happen or not. If you don't want 600 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: it to happen, there are measures you can take to 601 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: make sure it does and happen. Now here we go, 602 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: I already hear the opposition. But I may lose my livelihood, 603 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: I may lose my job, I may et cetera. 604 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: We're not talking about that. In one. 605 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: There are hrs. Two, there are recording devices. Three, there's 606 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: ways to get that guy in trouble. But we're talking 607 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: about who is in desire of who, who wants who? 608 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: Who has the power in that conversation. We know who 609 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: that is. So man may have power, entitled woman, you 610 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: got power because you got what he wants. If you 611 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: want to simplify it, let's keep going. So if these 612 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: concepts are still too difficult to understand it, clearly they 613 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: are given the predatory behavior of the soon to be 614 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: the part of Michigan State football coach Mel Tucker. Here's 615 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: a shortcut. Treat women with the same courtesy and respect 616 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 2: as you would a man. 617 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: Okay, that sounded beautiful and poetic. I did have a. 618 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: Little issue with you saying predatory because it's still under 619 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: conversation innocent to proven guilty. She's on the phone with 620 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: him at twelve thirty nine in the morning as well. 621 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: Who knows what she's saying. But the point is he's 622 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: the predator. Why he called her? She accepts she called him. 623 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: He accept who's the predator. And if anything, let's talk 624 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: through this part that I did not like. You can't 625 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: treat her the same way you would treat a man 626 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: in this conversation, in this lane, he is if we 627 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: are going to listen to the reports talking to her 628 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: and wanting an intimate relationship, and. 629 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: Those same reports says she wanted it back. 630 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: Now she's gonna refute that, and he's gonna refute that, Hey, 631 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: I took advantage of you. But the point is that's 632 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: not how he gonna come at. No, man, he don't 633 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: want a man. He wants a woman. And I don't know, 634 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: walk like a dog, bark like a dog. Twelve thirty 635 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: in the morning, we worked together. 636 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: Woo. 637 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: I'm not saying nothing work related happens at twelve thirty 638 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,239 Speaker 2: in the morning. Well, I'm just saying, what's working on 639 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: this conversation. Let's just talking about this man. Man, Man, 640 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: I saw this article. It's exhausting the mind feels. Women 641 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: have to navigate on a daily basis because the men 642 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: who don't see us as fully human. 643 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: Look, I will give you this. 644 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're called land mines, but if 645 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 2: you're a beautiful woman or just a woman who's desired, 646 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: it's tough to go to grocery store. I got daughters. 647 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: I get it. I walk with my daughter sometimes and 648 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: she doesn't look my age, but she doesn't always look 649 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: like my daughter. Sometimes people be like, hey, man, I'm 650 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: believe oh that's my daughter, or they don't care I'm 651 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: there and they just be like WHOA. So I get 652 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: that land minds. But ah, you men find a better 653 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: way to express your desire. Let's talk about that, right, 654 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: So let's keep going. It's disheartening we're still having to 655 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: fight this battle for basic decency, only making progress or 656 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: seeing justice when the offenses are so egregious, the evidence 657 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: so overwhelming that the wrongdoings of these misogynists can no 658 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: longer be ignored. Okay, I no problem with that. But 659 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: we're talking on the extremes right now. And that's why 660 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: I'm having this kind because I'm gonna take you to 661 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 2: the other extremes when the women are the ones who 662 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: are predators. Oh God, I can't wait to get there, 663 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 2: all right. So, no, all men don't behave this way, dull, 664 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: but there are still enough who do that. 665 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: Men like Tucker. Uh. 666 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: I think it's okay to treat the women around them 667 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: in a multitude of demeaning ways and then when they 668 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: get God somehow to see themselves as the victim. I 669 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: think mel Tucker sees himself in the victim in this 670 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: one light, if you believe him that he was on 671 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: the phone with someone at one in the morning because 672 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: they wanted to be on the phone at one in 673 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: the morning, talking about, oh, how will I look neked? 674 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 2: And I gotta get my neked body better? And he's 675 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 2: having phone sex with them, and they actually don't mind. 676 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: And then they flipped the script for whatever reason, allegedly, 677 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: and then that guy is now in position and. 678 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: Only lose his livelihood, but lose ninety five million dollar contract. 679 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 2: You don't call that person a victim, I do, all right, 680 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 2: So here we go. So Tucker is trying to blame 681 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 2: Brenda Tracy, a rape survivor and a preeminent advocate for 682 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 2: changing toxic masculinity in college athletics, for his sexual harassment 683 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 2: of her. The butt she asked for defense is maddening 684 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: on his face. It's also not very original, the same 685 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 2: trope men have been using for centuries to get away 686 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 2: with abuse of women. Okay, however, we have to make 687 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 2: sure we don't get caught up in the time shift. 688 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 2: Yes she's a rape survivor, Yes she's an advocate for 689 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 2: toxic masculinity. Whatever that really really means, y'all? Know we're 690 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 2: gonna have that conversation separate. But the point is that 691 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 2: ain't this and this ain't that you can be a 692 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: rape survivor and still be the one who's intimately connected 693 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 2: to mil Tucker on the phone at one in the 694 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 2: morning saying I'm okay with this phone sex. Those two 695 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 2: things can be true. So shame on you, Nancy, for 696 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: acting like they cannot be when they haven't went through 697 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: the due process just yet. But this is your opinion piece, 698 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: so I let it be. And here's my opinion piece 699 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 2: back at you, all right. So she goes on to 700 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 2: say guys are never as clever as they think they are, 701 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: and had Tucker backed off the first time Tracy told 702 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 2: them she wasn't interested in him personally, he'd probably still 703 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: be collecting that fat paycheck, and on and on it goes. 704 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 2: But that doesn't make sense. You're not interested in me personally, Okay, 705 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 2: y'all ever been ghosted? I got out the game before ghosting. 706 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 2: I got out the game when they were still just 707 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 2: like you know what, I'm real busy, like, we ain't 708 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: ghost each other, we were just like real busy, and 709 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: then you hit them again. 710 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm busy still then you get the hint, and then 711 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: that's how we played it. So we did. 712 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: I'm still busy, or get the hint. This ghosting is 713 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 2: a whole nother animal where you just like hit somebody. 714 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 2: They ain't picking up. They looking, They're like whatever. Voicemail 715 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: voicemail again, And you can tell because soon as it 716 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 2: goes straight like it ring a little and go, they 717 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 2: don't send me the voicemail. Right, You ain't stupid. 718 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: If I. 719 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 2: If I'm getting a phone call at twelve thirty or 720 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: something in night from a married man that I only 721 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 2: want to work with professionally, I don't know. If I'm 722 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 2: picking up that call at one in the morning, I 723 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know, all right, so here we go. 724 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 2: She basically ends it all by saying, it's simple as 725 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 2: that that men should not see themselves as superior to 726 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 2: anyone or entitled to anything. Okay, I will never, ever, 727 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 2: Nancy anybody attack the actor, just the act. I will 728 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 2: never attack the actor, just the acttion Okay, because I 729 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 2: am not perfect either. Trust me. 730 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: I live through my warts. 731 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 2: I show them, and there are more to be discovered, 732 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 2: and we will talk through them. I'll trust me on 733 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 2: this shelf. 734 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 1: But in life we learn. On this show, we learn 735 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: and unlearned. 736 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 2: And lessons are easier to see when you lose in losses, right, Coach, 737 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: always say when you lost, we're gonna learn from this, Guys, 738 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 2: it's easier to see. Not to say that you can't 739 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 2: learn from a win, but it's easier. 740 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: To learn in those losses. 741 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 2: And Mel Tucker boy is taking a loss. Whatever way 742 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 2: this goes, I don't care what happens. He still took 743 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 2: a loss. 744 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: You're gonna look at Mel Tucker forever like, yeah, buddy, okay. 745 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 2: Right, you're gonna be thinking about late night phone calls, 746 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 2: Jurgins all that. You know where you're going stop playing, 747 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 2: all right? So I'm here to balance the conversation because 748 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 2: there are too many things in this world that are 749 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 2: becoming so one sided that they think they're right just 750 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 2: because the other side ain't arguing back or pushing back 751 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: or just saying, hey, wait a. 752 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: Second, where's the balance? Right? 753 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 2: It's almost it's the loud minority of this world that 754 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 2: happens on social media, that happens in our mass like a. 755 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: Few people just keep talking and keep saying stuff, and 756 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: then everybody else what your greater in numbers. 757 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 2: Are sitting there like, man, I ain't got time and 758 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 2: energy for that, But y'all I disagree, and that's it. 759 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 2: So then that silence is looked at as complicit to 760 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 2: what they're saying, giving them a louder megaphone because nobody 761 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 2: else is talking back. They got the whole crowd to themselves. 762 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 2: All right, So let me push back on this. I'm 763 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 2: gonna talk about the times where and I'm not gonna 764 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 2: even lie to y'all. It wasn't no predator situation I'm 765 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 2: getting besides, by massage therapists for the teens, and they flirting. 766 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 2: Not only are they flirting with their mouth, and not 767 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 2: only are they flirting with what they're saying is suggesting, 768 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 2: but they flirting with they hands. 769 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 1: Like I swear I said I had shoulder surgery. 770 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 2: What you're doing down there by the grown girl, what 771 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: you're doing by the grown like? 772 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like and I have and 773 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: I told you all this. 774 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 2: Before, had relationships with massage therapists that started off with 775 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 2: them violating my space and my privacy. But I am 776 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 2: a twenty five year old at the time, in shape, 777 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 2: six pack, millionaire looking dude, who got his name across 778 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 2: everywhere and faced everywhere. I ain't ask you to touch me. 779 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 2: But what if I would have said something? Wonder how 780 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 2: that would have been taken. But I ain't feel violated, right, 781 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 2: because this is how I know when I didn't want it. Now, 782 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 2: there were some women who tried. I was a nah nah, 783 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 2: large marge or whatever. 784 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: Nah nah not you not, no lady. You know what 785 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean? So you know how you get it off? Nah? 786 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: No thanks, or you either overtly said. 787 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 2: And I ain't scared to say it and I have 788 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 2: said it, or stop playing right. And then they stopped 789 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 2: playing because they don't want to get embarrassed. They don't 790 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 2: want to get out it right. But come on, can 791 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 2: we stop acting like this? Stop faking the funk. That's 792 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 2: one of them team executives administrators. I have walked from 793 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 2: practice before, walked upstairs and not only been flirted with, 794 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 2: went out on dates and had relationships with people who 795 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,439 Speaker 2: worked in the building. I ain't start that. I ain't 796 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 2: go up there, macing. I ain't have to go macin. 797 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 2: I just man, look, and there was a time where 798 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 2: you ain't got a mac. It's a time you ain't 799 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 2: got a Mac. There's a time where you just gotta 800 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 2: respond back. Not even Mac. I ain't even on offense. 801 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 2: I'm on defense, Hey, marshalas Im not gonna ever say 802 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 2: y'all names or protected guilty, right, media members, right, I 803 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 2: mean just from first violation, just walking in here. 804 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,439 Speaker 1: What you look? My mouth is right here. 805 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hi girl, hot dudes too. But hey lady, 806 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 2: we talking. We're gonna flip this, We're gonna bounce this out. 807 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 2: Hey lady, I'm right out here. Dated them too, they 808 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 2: violated at first. So oh yeah, yeah, you ever want 809 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 2: to hang out talk a little more, you know, let 810 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 2: me know what's going on outside? Is that workplace harassment? 811 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 2: Like there has to be a safe space where a 812 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 2: man could shoot a shot and a woman could shoot 813 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 2: a shot. And let's try to be real about the 814 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 2: shots taken, right, okay, cheerleaders, Yeah, I been there before too. 815 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: You know, I'm playing the game two four six eight. Girl, 816 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: you better wait right, And she's like, you know what 817 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: I mean? 818 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 2: Like, is that violation workplace harassment? What's the opposite of misogynists? 819 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 2: What's what's a miss. 820 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: Damn that he was missing for the man? Let me see, 821 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 1: I don't know I have to go on my Google. 822 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: But the point is I've been harassed at work before. 823 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And. 824 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 2: Here's the one that if you want to say there 825 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 2: was a time where I was to prey and there 826 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: was a predator. There was one time at Columbia my 827 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 2: senior year when I started to pop blow up name 828 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 2: everywhere and you know, big fish and little pond because 829 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 2: it's Columbia. 830 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: Let me tell you what happened. Let me tell you something. 831 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: In front of oh. 832 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 2: Man, teachers, professors, administrators, hollering at your boy for real, 833 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,760 Speaker 2: Now y'all think y'all think I'm lying. Let a student 834 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 2: just go and holler at her, damn professor. See how 835 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 2: that go. Nine times out of ten, boy stops unless 836 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 2: and they were hollering at me. I got the receipts 837 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 2: and I ain't gonna ever ever let y'all see them. 838 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 2: But the point is, was that predatory Well you know 839 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 2: what I mean. I didn't think any of that. I 840 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 2: was like, all right, she shot or shot? I say, yes, no, 841 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 2: maybe so simple as that. So when I see this 842 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 2: situation that all spurred off of a lot of he says, 843 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 2: she's saying. I'm not saying Brenda's lying. I'm not saying 844 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 2: males telling the truth or vice versa. I am saying this, 845 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,959 Speaker 2: and I am gonna teach my daughters this. I teach 846 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 2: my daughters this, and I already taught one of them 847 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 2: as I would tell Brenda right now, Brenda Tracy, you 848 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 2: don't like what mel Tucker is doing, hang up the 849 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 2: damn If you don't hang up the phone, record him 850 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 2: on that phone. You don't hang up the phone, you 851 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 2: don't record him on the phone, everything that happened while 852 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 2: you were on. 853 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: The phone is going to be under scrutiny. 854 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 2: That means, I'm sorry, I hear what you're saying, but 855 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 2: I don't have to believe everything you're saying. That's where 856 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 2: we are right now until we run this course, run 857 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 2: this process. And I just wanted to bring balance to 858 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 2: this conversation because a lot of times it's the same 859 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 2: thing that happens with domestic violence. Sometimes I will bring 860 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 2: balance to that because I have been hit by women 861 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 2: before the police. I have police record that. 862 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: Said, YO, all right, Wiley, she got you right. 863 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 2: So the point is, I'm not trying to say that 864 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 2: these things don't happen, but. 865 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: When that's happening, just like if something happened to this. 866 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 2: Room right here, know where the emergency exites are abandoned 867 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 2: ship or protect yourself? But neither one, even though I 868 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 2: agree with you here, Nancy Armor, neither one should be 869 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 2: claiming victim. 870 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: All right. 871 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 2: So did the power get to mil Tucker's head, that's 872 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 2: what we're gonna talk about in the comments, or did 873 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 2: it get to Brenda Tracy's head his power and make 874 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 2: her want to pursue him? Let's talk through that. This 875 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 2: is a real one right here, y'all. And men, do 876 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 2: you have examples where women wanted to take advantage of you? 877 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: They were the predator? Right? They thought that word at 878 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: us all the time, like y'all predator? All right? 879 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 2: My mama was six one two fifty. She put hands 880 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 2: on my daddy. I saw her growing up, come up 881 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 2: in there talking about my daddy the predator. My mama 882 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 2: was whooping him up. Fama wouldn't play those games. So 883 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 2: where do we feel like this case is gonna go 884 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 2: from here? Okay, that's another conversation. What's the end game? 885 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 2: Who wins this? How it plays out? Yeah, I'm still alive. 886 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 2: Nancy ain't came and got me yet, got love. 887 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: For you, Nancy. I just disagree with to all of 888 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: what you said. 889 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 2: Now, Scott, let me stop, all right, man, let's get 890 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 2: into this bonus topic right here. 891 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: This is sad. 892 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 2: See, this is what Nancy's kind of talking about in 893 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 2: a different lane. Kevin Porter Junior, What the hell we 894 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 2: know who he is? Houston Rockets guards Allegedly. I don't 895 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 2: know why we're saying allegedly, but let's do it. Attack 896 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,760 Speaker 2: on his girlfriend at a New York City hotel left 897 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 2: her what a fracture neck vertebra and a cut above 898 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 2: her right eye. All right, So he's twenty three years young. 899 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 2: Pleaded not guilty to felony assault and strangulation charges in 900 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 2: connection with the incident that happened Monday at the Millennium. 901 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 2: He'll tend near the United Nations in Manhattan. 902 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: Now. 903 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 2: His girlfriend former WNBA player kidsragnerus it. 904 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 1: You know, I'm horrible with names. 905 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry ran out into the hallway covered in 906 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 2: blood for the broken neck. 907 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 1: Come on, y'all. 908 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 2: So he been a police posted seventy five thousand dollars bail, 909 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 2: which I thought, huh Like, I don't know the full 910 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 2: extent of the law and how to fully enforce it. 911 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 2: But seventy five thousand, which is only seventy five hundred 912 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 2: dollars real dollars. 913 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: You break somebody's neck that covered in blood. 914 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 2: And that's what you get to do. Welcome innocent, to 915 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 2: prove of guilty, I guess. Oh goodness. So this is 916 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 2: obviously a serious domestic violence case, and assistant Manhattan District Attorney. 917 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: Said that as well in court. 918 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 2: Now this is not the first incident as well, as 919 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,280 Speaker 2: Porter has a history of abusing her, they say, including 920 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 2: an incident in which he rammed. 921 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: His car into hers. 922 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 2: All right, she's a model, she's an actress, and she 923 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 2: also was the fourth pick in the twenty twenty one 924 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 2: w NBA draft. Played one season for the Indiana Fever 925 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,720 Speaker 2: and it's currently a free agent. 926 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 1: Now. He's played four years in the NBA, and. 927 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 2: He's been good on the court and really bad off 928 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 2: the court, according to this. Okay, why I bring this 929 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,439 Speaker 2: one up because it's like the only thing I want 930 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 2: to make sure we understand in this situation as one, 931 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 2: the violence that is rampant around our country, around our world, 932 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 2: around our daughters. 933 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: Our sons, our relationships. 934 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 2: Now by the numbers, your neighbor is more violent than 935 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 2: a professional athlete. But by the sensationalism, it looks like 936 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 2: the athletes are more violent. I do know that, I 937 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 2: do see that, but both when both parties are in 938 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 2: the limelight, this is an interesting dynamic. 939 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 1: You get heightened jealousies. 940 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 2: Give it to you like this typical dynamic is one 941 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 2: of you guys going to be popular, the odds of 942 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 2: both of y'all popular. Then you start getting into all 943 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 2: of these elect couples and pour couple things, right, But 944 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 2: the chances of most relationships maybe one of you like 945 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 2: the athlete. They're both athletes. Okay, so now that can 946 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,919 Speaker 2: heighten the jealousies. No excuses, but this is what gets 947 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 2: you triggered. Now you get triggered because if you think 948 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 2: about situations, the one thing that I do, I do 949 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 2: understand that, Wow, this is tough on my wife. And 950 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 2: now that's about to be tough on me because my 951 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 2: wife about to be way more famous than me and 952 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 2: it's happening in a couple months. So TikTok, TikTok is 953 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 2: you're subjected to strangers strange activity. 954 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: All the time. 955 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 2: And let's be real, all strangers ain't ugly all strangers 956 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 2: aren't respectful, So someone who's disrespectful and pretty can make 957 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 2: your day a little different in terms of your relationship. Right, 958 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 2: not so much, you're always accepting it. But you on defense? 959 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 2: Did you play enough good defense? 960 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: Right? 961 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,479 Speaker 2: Did you cut that off right there? Or were trying 962 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 2: to walk to our seats. Here's the twelfth time we've 963 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 2: stopped so you can take a picture. And last time 964 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 2: you took a picture, you turned around, made me spill 965 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 2: the drink on me, then took a picture with two 966 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 2: beautiful women who were way too suggestive, who were way 967 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 2: too far up. 968 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,479 Speaker 1: Your armpits, etc. 969 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 2: Now flip it too, could be these dudes are yoked 970 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 2: up tank top city and they ain't like, oh my god, 971 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 2: she's an actress, model and WNBA player. Well she's beautiful 972 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 2: and all that. And you know how people get all 973 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 2: friendly in these pictures. They act like we bosom buddies. 974 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: Right. All I'm trying to give you is the recipe 975 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: for disaster. 976 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what ingredients they had in their relationship 977 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 2: and in what occurred in this incident, but sounds like 978 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 2: it wasn't the first time, and sounds like this situation 979 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 2: needs to be the last time. 980 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 1: I just want everybody to understand there's a lot of 981 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: pressure on all y'all. 982 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 2: And the way to deal with that pressure is to 983 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:12,720 Speaker 2: let it out. Find your outlets, find your exits, find 984 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 2: your ways out. Dog, Do you know these are episodic? 985 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 2: These are episodes. You losing your mind? That's an episode, broh. 986 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 2: Just like when you're tired. You know you're getting the game. 987 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 2: Can't breathe, can't breathe. That's gonna pass too. Oh, this 988 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 2: shall pass too. You know what's gonna pass too. If 989 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 2: you find your exit, you find your ways to control 990 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 2: your emotions, cause this is insane? 991 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 1: Whoa insane? Like? He needs help if all this is true? 992 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: And whoa the father? 993 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,840 Speaker 2: And me has nothing nothing else to say if you 994 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,800 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 995 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 1: All right? So I've heard some people say this, let's 996 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 1: beat it up in the comments. Man really sad. 997 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 2: Hope she fully heals and hopefully she fully gets away 998 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 2: from this situation. 999 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 1: Frankly kicked out the NBA. Should he be? And that's tough. 1000 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 1: I saw some people saying that. I'm like, there have. 1001 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 2: Been people who played professional sports that have killed people involuntarily, 1002 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,760 Speaker 2: not but killed people. So do we think this should 1003 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 2: be an automatic termination. All right, you know what I mean? 1004 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 2: Should we not go there? Think about it, and let's 1005 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 2: talk about this on the societal level, like how bad 1006 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 2: this is and what are some of the outlets, What 1007 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 2: are some of the remedies, What are some of the 1008 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 2: ways we can try to rectify the domestic violence in 1009 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 2: this country? 1010 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 1: All right, y'all. You know we finish every show now 1011 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 1: with a while is we got to get the phone 1012 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: from some comments? First? Uh, funk out some comments? 1013 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's talk about scrubs Shannon, Remember we 1014 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,399 Speaker 2: were talking about that yesterday. You can see the insecurities 1015 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 2: of Fox compared to ESPN and first take ESPN just 1016 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 2: had a topic today with Shannon and Stephen. They talking 1017 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 2: about Kadarius Tony, where Shannon slipped up and mentioned skip 1018 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 2: and what do they do? 1019 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 1: They have fun with it? 1020 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, made a short clip with his mistake, then added 1021 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,919 Speaker 2: another clip to the video, Pat McAfee making a joke 1022 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 2: about it pretty cheap, pretty cheap in my opinion. 1023 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: You know what's funny. 1024 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 2: I saw Shannon lose it on the last time he 1025 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 2: said skip to Steven A. 1026 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: He lost it. I was like, even Stephen, they was like, oh, 1027 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: it's all good. Seven years brother Shannon was mad at himself. 1028 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. 1029 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,239 Speaker 2: Someone else says, I missed this Marcell's but you better 1030 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 2: believe Skip is deep down in his feelings about Shannon 1031 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 2: being on ESPN, stephen A and Shannon popping off all 1032 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 2: over social media and finally those two kicking his ass 1033 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:38,919 Speaker 2: and ratings. 1034 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: He's just in his feelings and petty at the same 1035 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: damn time. 1036 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I mean, they are winning 1037 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 2: the ratings. I think they always gonna win the ratings. 1038 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 2: It's a bigger machine, like ESPN is a whole different animal. 1039 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 2: I don't think anything FS one ever is gonna be 1040 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,879 Speaker 2: ESPN first take and McAfee show. I just finally saw 1041 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 2: McAfee show today. Woll that looked pretty. I had it 1042 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 2: on mute because I was prepping. But that look pretty. 1043 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 2: That looked good. H here's another one. No wonder he 1044 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 2: not on the Pat McAfee as a co host anymore. 1045 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 2: Talking about pac Man Jones, man, you can't believe shit 1046 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 2: Pack says, we all know that. Yeah, I mean he's 1047 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 2: lost the he's certainly lost the benefit of the doubt. 1048 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 2: Whatever that is, like, doesn't mean you're wrong. It just 1049 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 2: means I don't believe you. Right, you get the difference. 1050 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. 1051 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,879 Speaker 2: Man, this goes back to my question of whether it's 1052 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,280 Speaker 2: better to have first quarterback with twentieth defense or twentieth 1053 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:28,720 Speaker 2: quarterback with first defense. 1054 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: Cobra did talk about this easy choice. 1055 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 2: Jets are done now, and I think my YouTube is 1056 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,840 Speaker 2: broken because it sounded like you compare Rogers to Jordan. 1057 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 1: Hi, keep up the great work, my man. Yeah, this 1058 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 1: is the Wizards, Michael Jordan, Aaron Rodgers with the Jets. 1059 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,840 Speaker 1: Let me stop. Oh man, let's get the LeBatard to McAfee. 1060 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,359 Speaker 2: As far as as far left as ESPN got, they 1061 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,840 Speaker 2: started to lose viewers. It can be said it's because 1062 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 2: of people cutting the cable, but it can be denied. 1063 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,439 Speaker 2: They lost viewers. They can't be denied, can I read 1064 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 2: right now? So shows like Damn are off putting to 1065 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 2: half the country. It's only good business not to alienate 1066 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 2: half your potential viewers. 1067 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1068 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 2: I try not to go political, but I'm sure I 1069 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 2: alienate people as well. Oh well, you're here to watch me, 1070 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 2: and I'm here to talk to you, So it's like, 1071 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 2: don't you want me to be authentic. But at the 1072 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 2: same time, I don't do like I hate and I 1073 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,760 Speaker 2: do shows like this and I just roll my eyes 1074 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 2: and sometimes I check them, But most times I'd be 1075 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 2: like whatever, left right, Democrat, Republican woke cause I'm like 1076 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,240 Speaker 2: I always say so called, and I'd be like whatever. 1077 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 2: I don't like that. I don't like this whole, like 1078 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 2: tribalism of it. Don't think it's people that don't think 1079 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,919 Speaker 2: it's people. Don't want sportscasters and anchors to be real. 1080 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 2: People are tired of being beaten over the head with 1081 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,839 Speaker 2: other people's politics. You ain't never lie there. Boy, If 1082 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 2: I watch the political show and they start talking sports, 1083 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 2: I'd be like, sit your ass down. So I guess 1084 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 2: y'all feel the same, huh with us right talk sports 1085 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 2: while he shut up? 1086 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 1: At least on this show we get to talk life 1087 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: as well. All right, y'all know we finish every show 1088 00:54:58,600 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 1: we finished with a while. 1089 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 2: Is Yeah, never get your meat where you get your bread? Yeah, 1090 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 2: I saw this. I start dying. I thought it was 1091 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 2: appropriate today for the topics we had. And I you know, 1092 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm not a believer in never because I have got 1093 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 2: meat and bread the same damn store, you know what 1094 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 2: I mean, where I work. But it's gonna mess with you. 1095 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 2: It's gonna mess you up. It's a weird feeling too. 1096 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 2: You're like, I mean, you know what it is. It 1097 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,839 Speaker 2: puts you at the mercy of someone else. It really does, 1098 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,919 Speaker 2: because you know they can hold you hostage, and then 1099 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,359 Speaker 2: they can hold your job hostage. They can use your 1100 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 2: livelihood against you to manipulate you. 1101 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: Right, gonna work, You're mess with somebody working. 1102 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 2: Then it didn't go well, and you be like, I 1103 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 2: hope they cool, and then they probably thinking the same 1104 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 2: to you. I hope be cool with it, because if not, 1105 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 2: I not need HR in my life just because it 1106 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 2: didn't work out, because there was a time we wanted 1107 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,359 Speaker 2: it to. And don't forget that time when you take 1108 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 2: your ass to HR. Right, So never get your meat 1109 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 2: where you get your bread. Sounds great, It's almost like 1110 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 2: the Ten Commandments, and the ten commandments, if people really 1111 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 2: want to break it down, is to save you from suffering, 1112 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 2: save you from hell, the hell of suffering on earth. 1113 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,799 Speaker 1: Right, So don't do that. 1114 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,360 Speaker 2: Don't now shall not kill you, know, dow shall see Papa, 1115 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 2: you know whatever. But the point is that you don't 1116 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 2: violate those you're in a more peaceful existence. Say what 1117 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 2: you want about life. It's gonna be more peaceful. Doesn't 1118 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,359 Speaker 2: mean it's gonna be complete or bliss. It's not gonna 1119 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 2: be heaven, but it ain't gonna be hell. That's what 1120 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 2: it is. So if you live by this principle, never 1121 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 2: get your meat where you get your bread, And don't 1122 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 2: mean it's gonna be perfect utopia, but it won't be 1123 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 2: hell because you will not be hell if no one 1124 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 2: will hold you under their thumb. It ain't nothing worse 1125 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 2: than somebody looking at you like you know I can 1126 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 2: get you right now, right, And that's real talk. So 1127 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 2: I appreciate the wilyism right there. Never get your meat 1128 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,240 Speaker 2: where you get your bread? 1129 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,399 Speaker 1: All right, y'all? Got'll do it. 1130 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 2: For more to it, check the show notes for all 1131 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 2: the information on our topics today today. 1132 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 1: Want to keep the conversation, go on, let's talk to. 1133 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 2: Find me on all socials at Marcel's Wiley More Too 1134 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 2: is a production of Dan Patrick Production That Dude Entertainment 1135 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 2: and Workhouse Media. Show is executive produced by Dan Patrick, 1136 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 2: Marcell's Wally, Paul Anderson, and Nick Panella. 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