1 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: This is SWBC Mortgages Cowboys Cross Talk to broadcasting live 2 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. 3 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by Geico fifteen minutes could save you 4 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: fifteen percent or more on car insurance and by s 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage. Customized solutions to help you meet your personal 6 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: and business goals. Visit SWBC dot com Now your host, 7 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: Shannon Gross and Gross Welcome to a beautiful Cowboys Club 8 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco for what hopefully is not 9 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: our last show, but it's a possibility. If the Cowboys 10 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: don't take care of business on Sunday, this will be 11 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: the last time we do this this year. But we're 12 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: not gonna think about that because we're gonna thank positive 13 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: thoughts hopefully on this show. Wow, and we're gonna believe 14 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: you really said that for real, man. I put it 15 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: out in the universe because it is a possibility. The 16 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys are only a three and a half point favorite, 17 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: so we'll get to that in a minute though, but 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: first get to our guest of honor in a minute too. 19 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: Most guests of honor can't sit upright in their chair 20 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: in this large, tall barstool and their feet touched the 21 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: floor and they still have some bend in their knees. 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: Our guest of honor can but first to my right, 23 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: Chris are welcome back to the show. What's going on? 24 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: Is second or third time on this? He'll get disappointed 25 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna speak that much today. Yeah, they 26 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: don't show. Don't don't say anything that you don't want 27 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: Chris to know about the text message because you know 28 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: they'll get it. Sit to him, Nate, Welcome to the show, Nate. 29 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: Now I'm glad to be him. I'm excited. Man, cowboys 30 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: going to go all the way. Do you want to 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: introduce our guests of honor to the right, Jim, Jim, 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: let's get what's uplow showed you? Yo? Yo, yo yo? 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: What's up? A former un devil man? Yeah? State on 34 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: the state? Yeah, that state from Jersey? Yes, Yeah, it's 35 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: a long way from home. Yeah, the long way. Did 36 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,559 Speaker 1: you grow up at Eagles Stand being from Jersey? No, 37 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: I grew up from North I grew up like the Giants, 38 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: twenty five minutes outside the medl Lands. All right. A 39 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: former teammate of years that I saw today wanted me 40 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: to tell you high the great Drew Pierson. Oh yeah, 41 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: Drew and man and Drew grew up about twenty minutes 42 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: from each other, did you realize? Yeah? Yeah, you know. 43 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: Do y'all know about each other growing up? No, because 44 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: he was ten years old. He's the old guy he 45 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: played with in high school. Obviously at high school and 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: obviously when he got here, we knew each other because 47 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: he would always talk about where I grew up. Where 48 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: we were big time. We only lost four games for 49 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, and he came out and hang down, 50 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: hang out down. There's twenty minutes away from each other. Yeah, 51 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: South River and Mada. So what do you What are 52 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: you up to these days? What are you got going on? 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: I am only a it's uh commercial insurance. We do. 54 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: We do health insurance, we do financial for one k's 55 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: and all financial life insurance and things of that nature. 56 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: And I'm a part owner of it. So that's what 57 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing now. Oh, that's just part of what he do. 58 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: He always coaching somewhere, always coaching some where. I'm coaching, 59 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: but it's little kids. I'm working with little kids, OK. Yeah, 60 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: and just saying getting them lined up, right lined up. 61 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: But I do that right now and we've been doing it. 62 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: We opened up the company and it's going well, very good. 63 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: It's going well, very cool. Coach. Once coaching gets in 64 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: your blood, you can't get it out. But no, it's 65 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: like golf. Once you started hitting that ball, it's over 66 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: with no question. I mean, Jim like coached all different 67 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: kind of loose levels. Yeah, I mean he even did 68 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: like the spring leagues and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I 69 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: did two of the lad let's go through that. I 70 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: went through the AAF, I went through the XFL obviously 71 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: coaching the NFL with the Cowboys. I did University of Houston, 72 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: San Jose State in Colorado in college, and I've done 73 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: all those things. And then while I was doing that, 74 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: I owned the All State Agent Agency. That's how I 75 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: knew about insurance. And yes, no question, no question. I 76 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: always have to have to be doing something. Yeah yeah, 77 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: So what do you think about the state of this 78 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys team, the team as a hole heading into the playoffs. Well, 79 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: we were talking before the show. I feel this is 80 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: gonna be one of the most physical games that the 81 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: Cowboys a play. The forty nine ers are a physical team. 82 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: I watched them last week and they are probably one 83 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: of the most physical teams in the NFL. And this 84 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: is gonna be a knockdown, drag out kind of a game. 85 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: You know. They got receivers Deebo Samuels who gets in 86 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: a running back position, and they better be ready. They 87 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: better be ready because this is gonna be a war. 88 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: And I'm going with the Cowboys. And when you said 89 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: they were three point favorites at home, that means there's 90 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: six point favorites if you know anything about gambling. So 91 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: they got sick, they got six points. But it's gonna 92 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: be a good game. The thing the Cowboys gotta do 93 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: is bow up this week. They gotta bow up and 94 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: make sure that they know that. Don't tell me, hey, 95 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: this is the time. It is the time, because there 96 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: ain't no hey. It's one and done if you don't 97 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 1: get it done. You said something about meanings man before 98 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, talk about that meanings Hey man, you 99 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: gotta you know how it is. You gotta let them 100 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: know the sain't no joke, you mighty. You know. It's 101 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: just like when we play, you know, every once in 102 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: a while you might have to go up there in pubpla. 103 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be back. I'm gonna be back, or you 104 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: gotta knock them down and say, hey, that ain't all 105 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna get that. I'm gonna give you more and 106 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: let you know I'm coming for you. You don't want 107 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: somebody needed give me him, somebody to grab garoppolo fun. 108 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: You can't just grab it. It was a way to 109 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: do it the pilot. Yeah. Yeah, oh man, oh man, 110 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: that's the one. You gotta be smart about these things. 111 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: You can't just roundhouse them in the ribs. You gotta 112 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: get the elbow in there. Well, you just kind of 113 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: make like you're making a move y. You got to 114 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 1: know this. The nerve points yeah right, the white talking 115 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: and stuff got it deadn't that nerve By the end 116 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: of the game. That nerve has got to be dead, Nate. 117 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: We've heard all week, heard Jim say a while ago. 118 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: We've talked about it. You hear it on every show. 119 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: The physicality. What exactly for a non football person, What 120 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,679 Speaker 1: does be in physical mean? Does it just mean hitting hard? 121 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: Does it what? What does physical part of it? That's 122 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: that's number one. The baby to hit hard, but the 123 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: baby to just taking a step for them, Like Jeff said, 124 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: you have to be smart. But if I'm trying to 125 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: block a guy, I gotta take it a step father, 126 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: you know. And if I can push him over the 127 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: pile of if I can lean on him, you know 128 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, If I can get get in on 129 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: his legs a little bit more, you know, every time 130 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: he's got to feel me. He's like in basketball they 131 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: call it force. You gotta feel other guys force. And 132 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: they got always like, like Jeff Cooch said, if he 133 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: go if he go for a sack, and he almost 134 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: get there as long as he was in that step. 135 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: But that two step rule, it's all right, but he 136 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: gotta lean into him with his should as long as 137 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: it's below then you know, you gotta lean into him. 138 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: You gotta be able to finish a step beyond the whistle. 139 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: But you gotta be smart about it. And that's what 140 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: these guys do. They find when you see them run 141 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: block and when you see them you see the deepo Samuels. 142 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: You know when he finished the block, when he finished 143 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: a run. Man, he always trying to lean forward. No 144 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: matter whether it's going running the ball out of the 145 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: backfield or catching it as a wide receiver, He's always 146 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: trying to finish forward what about you, Chris. We heard 147 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: a subplot. I want to hear Alf He was a 148 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: good subplot. Field. This is a juicy subplot, all right. 149 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn is the defensive coordinator. Kyle Shanahan is the 150 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: head coach. Back oh, a few years ago when Atlanta 151 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: Falcons was in the Super Bowl, gave up that big 152 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: lead and Tom Brady and the Patriots came back and 153 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: crushed the Falcons, sucked the life out of entire city. Right, 154 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: I personally have always blamed Kyle Shanahan because they decided 155 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: to throw the ball even though the running game was 156 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: still working. You gotta let the defense rest up a 157 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: little bit, and it kept going three and out, three 158 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: and out, three and out, and then that gave Tom 159 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: Brady time. Then Quinn, as the head coach at that time, 160 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: took the hit. I say, this is Dan Quinn's revenge game. 161 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: It's like, Kyle Shanahan, you cost me a ring. You 162 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: made everybody think I don't know how to coach a 163 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: football team in the Super Bowl when I let you 164 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: be the offensive coordinator and coordinator. Now they friends and 165 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: they know each other. But this revenge and this is 166 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm going into the Super Bowl this year, not you. 167 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: So Dan Quinn is gonna have to have that defense 168 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: ready for Kyle Shanahan's offense, and all they're gonna do 169 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: is run down to Kyle Shanahan learning that Super Bowl 170 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: I better run the ball a lot. And what you 171 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: will see in this game on Sunday is not just 172 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: regular running. You're gonna see pre snap motion. You're gonna 173 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: see RPOs. You're gonna see guys that's normally not the 174 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: running back like Sam dee Bo. He's not a normal 175 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: running back. You're gonna see all all eleven players committed 176 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: to run some kind of way because the quarterback is 177 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: not that the elite quarterback's not Aaron Rodders. But here's 178 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: what you also, you're gonna see. You possibly gonna see 179 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: Trey Lance in this game. Oh, you're possibly gonna see him. 180 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: And the reason is it's just what you said when 181 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: you running them RPOs. He's more of a threat to 182 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: run an RPO than Jimmy g So you'll possibly see 183 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: him in there and trying to catch them all offense. 184 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: He's gonna do something that they haven't practiced exactly. That's 185 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: just the way it is. You have to understand that 186 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: what they're gonna try to do is to get them right. 187 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: And you know that's why I'm saying this subplot. It's 188 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: like a chess game between Dan Quinn and Kyle Shanahan. 189 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, Uh Kellen Moore, he's gonna have 190 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: to come up with his best game. And of course 191 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: Dak and all the rest and Mike McCarthy overseeing in 192 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: bones possible and I'd be scared nobody but just those 193 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: two guys alone, dan Quinn versus Kyle Shanahan, the Exes 194 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: and the Olds, because literally the forty nine is gonna 195 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: try to run the ball and control the clock and 196 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 1: keep the Cowboys explosive offense off the field. You know, 197 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: the thing about what I like about Shanahan is he 198 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: don't have to go, you know, like heverybody to this 199 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: new thing going into your bag. He ain't got to 200 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: go into his back. That's what they do, ye the 201 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: old school. Yeah, yeah, and then you're right about that. 202 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: That's what they do. That's what and they do. If 203 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: you ever watch him play, they trying, they trying to 204 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: bully you. Yeah, you know what devo means. Debo was 205 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: a bullet, So how bully you take all the bully 206 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: by being and let him know he's gonna take your bike. Alright, 207 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my bike and go to break. Okay, 208 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: I feel pushed around this first second. I'm gonna come 209 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: back and see if I can physical, if I can 210 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: get more physical in this second. I don't like the 211 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: way I started the show. Okay, We're gonna come back 212 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: in the second segment. I'm gonna start the show again 213 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: about this won't be the last, right right, I thought 214 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: about it. I'm like, I don't like the way that 215 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: left the bad taste. I was just gonna elbow you 216 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't want that to happen. Happened 217 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: in the break. All right, you're listening to Cowboys Crosstalk. 218 00:11:52,679 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: Come the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network from Cowboys Club here 219 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco, Texas. And boy, do we 220 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: have a show for you tonight. I am Shannon Gross 221 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: and tim My Right from one oh five three the Fan. 222 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: Chris Arnold, Welcome back to the show. Chris has been 223 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: a while. Yeah yeah. Nate Newton my co host every 224 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: Wednesday night, and you're right, would you like to introduce 225 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: your former team Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim Jim jeff Man, 226 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: and welcome to the first of what will be many 227 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: because once the Cowboys win this Super Bowl, Buddy, we 228 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: might keep this show going until training camp. See remember 229 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: talking about being physical. I went over the elbows Champa 230 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: physical of me. Hey, we here back for the second 231 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: segment before we get going at s WBC, customized solutions 232 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: for individuals and businesses are just to click away. Visit 233 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: SWBC dot com to learn more and start your next adventure. 234 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: And the Cowboys next adventure starts Sunday out of AT 235 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: and T Stadium, where should be an interesting crowd to 236 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: see if it's out. They're having a white out out there, 237 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: so we'll see if you watch the game on Sunday, 238 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: the Rams versus the forty nine ers, there was a 239 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: lot of red in that stadium. They took over. They did, 240 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: they did, They did it, really did. That was interesting 241 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: because you would have never thought that would have happened 242 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: at so Far Stadium in LA. But they took over. 243 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: They took over. I was wondering, I'm saying, wait a minute, 244 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: I'm hearing all this sounds for the forty where Ms 245 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford said that, Yeah, man, it was all over 246 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: the place. Yeah exactly, Yeah, that's what I was about 247 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: to sayshbacks, yeah, flashbacks. Yeah. So to me, this game 248 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: is going to be really interesting. I've talked myself, this 249 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: is this is who I wanted to play. And the 250 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: further the week has gone along, I've listened to Nate 251 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: and Nate has taught me out of this is who 252 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: we want to play now, Jes you and Jesse did it. 253 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: But now I'm now what I'm interested in. There's some 254 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: interesting matchups in this game. George Kittle and jay Ron 255 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: curse Deebo Samuel when he gets in the backfield, do 256 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: they shadow when with Michael Parsons? What do they do 257 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: with that whole dynamic? There's a lot of off our 258 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: defensive line, their offensive line. How physical can the defensive 259 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: line be? Because that seems to be a theme of 260 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: games they've lost this year. Is they talk about we 261 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: got out physical, we got out you know out? Yeah, 262 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: I know, So go ahead. Here's something interesting. I was 263 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: looking at some stats and sizes. Did you realize Michael 264 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: Parsons is very similar in size that Lawrence Teller was. 265 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that, and he's faster than Lawrence 266 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: Teller was coming out of college. That is, yeah, he's big. 267 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: He's bigger than we thought, and he's just getting started. 268 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: And he's just getting started. So I had a question 269 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: for you because I asked Nat this a couple of 270 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: weeks back, when Micah said, I guess it was three 271 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: four weeks ago. They asked him about football and he 272 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: said football is easy. And I asked Nat if it 273 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: bothered him, and they said no, because to him it 274 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: is easy. Is it easy to some guys? Is it 275 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: just that simple that it's it? Processes quicker? He is 276 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: it easy? Can't be easy for he can be easy. 277 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: It could be easy, but they work at it and 278 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: they you know, people don't know. It's just like Nat 279 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: to tell you, Mike Irvin would come in early in 280 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,239 Speaker 1: the morning and worked before everybody was there because I 281 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: was there and he come in and he coming late 282 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: at night. They think Dennis Robin was the same way 283 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: in basketball. Everybody knows that he after a game, he 284 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: might be in a gym. He might be in that's right, 285 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: But some people are like that. That's how they make 286 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: it easy for him, and the way we practice made 287 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: it easy for us on the field. The games were 288 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: easy the practice when we did those medal drills, I 289 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: mean oh old Oklahoma drills, meaning that we were going 290 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: full full blow. I mean, so we made the game easy. 291 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: You can make the game easier if there any matchups, Chris, 292 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: that you're gonna be keeping an eye. Is there anything 293 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: you're really gonna be looking at this game? Yes? I 294 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: want to see um. I want to see what the 295 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: offensive line does against the defensive line for the forty nine. 296 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: Because the forty nine is defensive line. It's very physical. 297 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: As Jim and I were talking about this with Nate 298 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: earlier before we got on the air, they're extremely physical. 299 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: And our offensive line got a reputation of being good, 300 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: but they're not the great offensive First of all, they're 301 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: the Nate's line that's the Great Wall of Dallas. Ain't 302 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: never been duplicated anywhere. But the line that had Travis 303 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: Frederick as the center, that was a quality line. This 304 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: year's line, if you could tell, because they had to 305 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: bring in guys, take guys out, some guys getting hurt 306 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: Lyole got suspended for a minute, yet Terns still all 307 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: over the Connor Williams getting not suspended beginning to bitch 308 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: because he's getting all the penalties. I'm like, what's up 309 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: with this offensive line? They got some kind of continuity, 310 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: and I'm really curious to see if they're gonna be 311 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: able to do some run blocking or some get their 312 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: blocking schemes down for the running game, because if we 313 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: don't have a real running game, the Dallas Cowboys cannot 314 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: assume that the forty nine ers are gonna let Dak 315 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: just throw the ball. He's gonna they're gonna have his 316 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: own again. They're gonna have to share. They're gonna have 317 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: to cover two. The one thing that goes into Cowboys 318 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: favor is Zach Martin. The majority of the game will 319 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: be over Armstead because he disrupts inside because of his 320 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: height and size and strength. But you got your best 321 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: offensive lineman playing against them, so that helps him. Now, 322 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: the problem they have is Fred Warner the linebacker. How 323 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: are they gonna control him. If they can control those two, 324 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: then they got an opportunity to make plays on against 325 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: their offense or excuse me, their defense, because the Cowboys. 326 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: You can go against Zack Martin one on one, Yeah, 327 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: you go on the other side and you still want 328 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: to run them that you double team with the center 329 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: and the call. Yes, but this is the this is 330 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: the key. I think Jeff is Tony Pollard. His name 331 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: should be written all over because when we went against 332 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, you know they weren't gonna run 333 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: against us, so they tried to swing that ball out 334 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: of the backfield till they running back, even though we 335 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: had Ken Norton all the yeas athletic enough to do it. 336 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: I want to see if Fred Warner can repeatedly tackle 337 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: this kid. Yeah, and that's what you gotta do. Short 338 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: Handling them, man, You can't just try to dominate them 339 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: with the run. You got a short handle them a 340 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: little bit. The other thing to pick pay attention to 341 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys started the season against the Buccaneers in 342 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. They got a legitimate front seven and they 343 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: stayed in that boss thinking because Zike's all in shape, 344 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: and they stayed there and Dak exploited them. I don't 345 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: know if the forty nine ers are gonna stay there 346 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: of boxes. Over the last month and a half, a 347 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: lot of these defenses like, no, we're not staying in 348 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: the box because running game is suspect right now, so 349 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: they've been daring Dak and Dak you know, we show 350 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: they've been showing him. You know, that zone defense. I'm 351 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: warning because and Jim, you know, this is the secondary 352 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: good enough to handle the Cowboys pass an attack. And 353 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: that's still what I was about to go with. Most 354 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: people are in the last eight games have been playing 355 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: that with two high safeties. That's what did And by 356 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: high print, yeah, they kept those safeties high and that 357 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: was the blueprint because they felt they could control the 358 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: running game. They have to be able to run the ball. 359 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: They have to get movement because that's got to bring 360 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: a safety down, right, And that's what you're saying, yep. 361 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: So what they have to do is Zeke has got 362 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: to have a game. He gotta be a old Zeke. 363 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: I mean, and and Pollard is gonna give him problems 364 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 1: because when you get him in space, even inside, he 365 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: can make plays. He's gonna get you five six yards. 366 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: And once you're in second and four as opposed to 367 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: being in you know, second and ten, now you got 368 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: a chance you can throw or run and still be 369 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: comfortable if you go into a third down situation. The 370 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: thing that I think coach Kellum has to do man, 371 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: if you if you want to show people who he 372 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: is man, it's you know, Jeff for Tay is two 373 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: ways you can set coverage. It's two ways of defense 374 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: gonna look at you. Whether you got an elite running 375 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: back that's gonna make that guy on situational plays come 376 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: up and in and out of that box, right, or 377 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: if you got elite wide receiver, which we do in 378 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: a Marie. You got to get a mar the ball 379 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: that gonna open up a whole lot of things. Huh, 380 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: it's just we got I'm telling you, he is elite 381 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: and number nineteen for us. So we can force that early. 382 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: Maybe we can make some things happen. Because here's the thing. 383 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: You're right. If they're playing two high safeties all the time, 384 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: the tight ends become more important. Yes, and the reason 385 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: is your middle. Yeah, the jokes becomes more important because 386 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: the middle opens up. That means that the linebacker's gotta 387 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: run with them. Now you open up and you can 388 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: explore them a little bit more. And now, like I said, 389 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: you still now the safety has got to take them. 390 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: You can't let a linebacker cover. And the thing, the 391 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: thing that's gonna be funny is is uh and I 392 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: heard this on the fan, and I heard when our 393 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: young reporters say this. If you go back and check 394 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: the records, we were we were more a better offensive team. 395 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: We had two tight ends. They're not great blocking tight ends, 396 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: but they're always a threat, you know, especially so he's 397 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: back now. You can run them too. Tight ends exactly, 398 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: And sometimes you just gotta get in the way as 399 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: a tight end. But when it becomes an obvious passing down, 400 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: like you said, they're gonna have to do something. Oh yeah, 401 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to honor those safeties, those those tight ends. 402 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: Here's a couple of numbers to keep out keep in 403 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: mind too. This is where you hope the Cowboys do 404 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: their job. The Cowboys at home average thirty six points 405 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: a game. On the road, they average twenty six points 406 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: a game. The forty nine ers for the whole season, 407 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: they have age twenty four points a game. Yes, so 408 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: they they can't score with the Cowboys, but the game 409 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: plan for them is to grind the ball. Yes, keep 410 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 1: Cowboys offense off the field. And we bet a hope 411 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: that we don't have to kick a field goal. To Winterston, 412 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: I said it, I'm sucked. Well, maybe after point whatever, 413 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm afraid for that mass see you. Let's pray 414 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: for Greg Delay. That's why I wanted this matchup is 415 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: because you could. It's I'm not scared of Jimmy g 416 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: I think this. You can make this team one dimensional. 417 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: The problem to me is the one dimension you can 418 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: make them is the one the Cowboys struggle with. A 419 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: good running game, a physical offensive line, and that Elijah 420 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: Mitchell when he's healthy, he ain't no joke man. That 421 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: dude can run. And you put put Deebo in the 422 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: backfield with him and then you got some issues. So 423 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: that's why I've kind of been talked in to be 424 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: I was not worried at all Monday until you open 425 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: your mouth now and now Wednesday, I'm a little bit. 426 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit worried. I'm I'm not too worried, Jeff, 427 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: but I'm a little bit. But here's the thing. You 428 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: got to realize. These gamblers, the way they operate is 429 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: they gotta make money. This is how they live. And 430 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: if they put you at plus three, like I said, 431 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: that means six because you gotta always give the team 432 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: more three and then three more points. Yeah, So that's 433 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking, is they know something. They know something. 434 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: They've watched the forty nine ers all year, and they 435 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: watched the Cowboys. So if they're giving you six points 436 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: in a game like this, and you also got to 437 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: think the forty nine ers just barely made the playoffs, 438 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: let's be honest. Let's be honest. Yes they are physical, 439 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: Yes they do have some talent, but they still have 440 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: some issues. They still have some issues. And that's where 441 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, their coaching staff has to exploit them because 442 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: they're not they're they're not the forty nine is of 443 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: the past. They just got after I thought the Rams. 444 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: I've always said this. I thought Stafford was a stat guy. 445 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 1: He's never won a championship, he's never been in the playoffs. 446 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, let's be honest. It's somebody one time 447 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys knocked him out. Yeah, but hey, this 448 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: guy has got great stack. Yeah he ain't been away, 449 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: Yeah he doesn't understand. Okay, So let's look at that 450 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: forty because I like what you're saying, and I love 451 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: what you're saying about these these oddsmakers though, these things, Yeah, 452 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: they'd be studying them and analytics and their tendencies and whatnot. 453 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: Keep in mind this the last three games the forty 454 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: nine has have lost. They lost seven games, but the 455 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: last three that they've lost, the other team has held 456 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: them under one hundred yards total Russian. So keep in 457 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: mind if they're for some reason the Cowboys get on 458 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: the roll where they can keep the running game in 459 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: check for the fourth. In other words, forty nine, uh 460 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: putting the ball all the time. He got a real 461 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: good chance. And maybe if the Cowboys start the game 462 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: with big lead, they might start throwing them all. They 463 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: didn't do that against the Rams. They just got patient. 464 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: The Rams they were up seventeen to nothing, and they said, no, 465 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: we're still on forty nine, and they caught them, so hopefully. 466 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I hate that they were down by seventeen 467 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: because that's gonna make them not feel like, Okay, the 468 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys up fourteen to nothing. We don't we Chris, you 469 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: just gave away your key to victory. That's supposed to 470 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: be in the fourth second of the show. You get 471 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,239 Speaker 1: away in the second another one. That's sorry, We're good. 472 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a minute. Let's take our 473 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: next break. When we come back. Chris's second key to victory. 474 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: More from Jim Jeff Cot and we'll get Nate involved 475 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: the next segment. You feel like talking next segment name. 476 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just enjoying the conversation. This is a 477 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: good show man. We'll be right back here. Listen to 478 00:28:38,160 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys Cross Talk on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. When 479 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: to s WBC Mortgages Cowboys Cross Talk. Check our broadcasting 480 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. 481 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back. SWBC Mortgage joined them. More of the one 482 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty thousand customers that we've helped to find 483 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: their happier way home visit SWBC mortgage dot com to 484 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: find a pro Today. Shannon Gross, Chris Arnold, Nate Newton, Jim, 485 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: Jeff Code on the panel here tonight. And we've been 486 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: talking a lot of Cowboys forty nine ers football. But 487 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: let's do something different this segment. Let's give out. Let's 488 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: give out an award. Let's give out an offensive award 489 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: since we wrapped up the season this past weekend, and 490 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: a defensive award. And I want to take it a 491 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: little different angle. Let's give our keep doing what you're doing, 492 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: young man award. All Right, I'll start, We'll start on 493 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: defense and pick a player that you like what you see. 494 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: They don't have to be the most outstanding player, they 495 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: don't have to be the MVP. But it's someone that 496 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: you like what they're doing and you want them to 497 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: keep building on what they're doing and keep doing what 498 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: you're doing. Young man, My guy on defense is gonna 499 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: be Randy Gregory this year, just because we all know 500 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: his story. Great young man, great story. He's overcome a 501 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: lot of adversity, but hit the violence and the attitude, 502 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: just the motor that he has. Are you saying he 503 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: chooses violence, I'm saying Sundays, sometimes Thursdays sometimes, yes, sometimes 504 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: you have to he does. I just like what he's 505 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: I like what he's done. I like the way he 506 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: fits in on this defense. I like what he brings 507 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: from a personality, from a from an excitement standpoint. I 508 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: think he's a really good personality on this team, and 509 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: he and he plays his butt off on game day, 510 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: and I just I really like what what he does. 511 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: That's my guy on defense, Nate, you have one? Yeah, yeah, 512 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: I do, man, But I'm a guest to who's your guy? 513 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: My guy is de Marcus Lawrence, and I'll tell you, 514 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: but de Marcus has came back and he puts the 515 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: energy into it, and you know, he loves the game. 516 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: You know, you could see that he loves being out there, 517 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: he loves being a part of it, and he picks 518 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: up everybody. And it's gonna be big for him this one. 519 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: He's gotten pick up there. He's that kind of guy. 520 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: And I like the Marcus and I think that let's 521 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: debate real quick before we get to YouTube, guys, because 522 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: you said something that I don't want to forget energy 523 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: in a playoff game, and and somebody that brings that 524 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: extra attitude brings what DeMarcus brings. You guys have both 525 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: experienced that playoff football is different. Is different? Right? What 526 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: does it mean for someone to bring how important is energy? 527 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: And energy is so important? And this is why I 528 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: like this game playing at three thirty because in Dallas, 529 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: at twelve o'clock, everybody getting home from church and they 530 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: don't heard the good word and everything, so they're a 531 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: little bit quiet. But at three thirty, they didn't got 532 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: home from church. The change that they didn't got something 533 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: to drink. Now they're ready to go night games. The 534 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: right too much to drink and they're tired by the 535 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: time up, and that's the energy. They'll bring energy to this, Yeah, 536 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: they'll bringing that'll bring energy to the players waking up 537 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: from coming from the club. Yeah yeah, and all the 538 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: people at the tailgate, they will already be toasted by 539 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: that into Yeah, perfect time. They're gonna be talking junk. 540 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a forty nine fan and that like 541 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: they did in LA and so far stadium. Don't try 542 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: to be careful, don't try This is Taty, this is Texas. 543 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: Who is that guy waking up? Who's keep doing what 544 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: you're doing for you? Chris? Who is that guy on defense? Yeah, 545 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Trayvon Diggs. And the reason I'm say 546 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs is because there's a lot of people in 547 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: the analytical world need to put some respect on that 548 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: man's I said respect with a K. At the end 549 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 1: of it, r E. Spe K. It drives me crazy. 550 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: He leaves the league and interceptions right, he got eleven picks. 551 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: Nobody his head eleven. Nobody's had double digit picks since 552 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: Cubby Walls did it in nineteen eighty one. It's one 553 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: thing that he tied ever some walls with eleven Nobody. 554 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: All these great corners you've heard about from nineteen eighty 555 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: one all the way to this year, Dion didn't do it. 556 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: I love prime Time. He's the greatest shutdown corner of 557 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: all time. You can just name all Champ Bailey, you 558 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: can name Woodson, charleswood you can name all of them. Well, 559 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking about SIS eighty one. Nobody, and I'm like women, 560 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: these analytical guys go. But he gives them all these yards. 561 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: He's not really a great corner because he gives them 562 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: all these yards. I'm gonna tell y'all something, You've got 563 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: to do more than just the eyeball test. And I've 564 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: talked to Kuby about this too. He does more than 565 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: just what a typical shutdown corner. Typical shutdown corner like 566 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman. I love River Sherry and that's that's who 567 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: Trey Bonn's mentori is, or that's his idol. Richard Sherman. 568 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: Don't travel. He take out one side of the field. 569 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: Deon take out once, although Dion had travel. Yeah, Trayvon 570 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: Diggs goes with the best receiver every game, every game. 571 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: Now in this day and age, It's what Coup and 572 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: I were talking about this day and age. It's a 573 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: more passing league. It's more passed first. It's not balanced, 574 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: it's not run first, it's more passing first. Other teams 575 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: are not gonna not throw at their best receiver. Trayvon's 576 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 1: on that best receiver. He gonna give us from yards, 577 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: but he might burn your ass. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 578 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: So that's why I say, keep on doing what you're doing. 579 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: Who's your guy, Nate, Oh my guy, man, my guys. 580 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: I'm praying to God, my guy. Don't beat my guy 581 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: for this year. That's Quinn. Don't go nowhere because Jim, 582 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: it has been a long time since we've had a 583 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: divisive coach that say they can sit tell on him. 584 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: This is the this is the plan I have for 585 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: this player. I talked to him doing training camp and 586 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: he told me almost every player that I asked he 587 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: had a plan for. And he said, this is what 588 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm asking. Yeah, yeah, forget Morristown. We we quickly forget 589 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: for seven eight games, nine games. He didn't have his 590 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: starting defensive front for nine games. They never played together, 591 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the Marcus Larns comeback Gallimore, 592 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: come back, Randy Gregory, come all these guys coming back, 593 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: and now he knows who his guys are. Dud had 594 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: a plan for and you think this is fascinating. He 595 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: took basically the same team that gave up the most 596 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: plays in Cowboy history and made them play like that. 597 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: Think about that. He got two safeties, He's got two 598 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: new safeties, he got a new corner. But he did that, 599 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: So you gotta give Dann credit. That shows in George 600 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: Edwards is there too, and in the cornerback coach y'all 601 00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: uh has Harris And thing that I like about them 602 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: is they all on the same page. And I we 603 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: saw personally then this guy here doing training camp. We 604 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,240 Speaker 1: personally saw how he would on certain days, a certain 605 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: periods he would go with certain groups and put his 606 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: hands on yes and players like that. He was down 607 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: understands what yeah, yeah, yeah, he does that. All right, 608 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: let's flip the other side. I might steal somebody's here, 609 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: but might keep doing what you're doing. Young man. Guy 610 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: on offense is gonna be Cedric Wilson for beings like 611 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: stepped in. We done nothing but what they asked him 612 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: to do. And look, I hate it. I hate what 613 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: happened to camp Stop Nate. I hate what happened to 614 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. Like, great guy, amazing player. Nobody's better on 615 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: the sidelines with body control and knowing where he's at 616 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: on the field. But yeah, but with what Cedric's done 617 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: this year, he's given this team confidence, Like you've got 618 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: a number three that can do what you need to 619 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: do and throw football and throw football and can run 620 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: and can return. Right, I mean that that that's my guy. No, 621 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: it's a good one. You'll hear something wild about him 622 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah. He grew up with Tony Pollard in Memphis. 623 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: Him and Tony poll been knowing he just as grade 624 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: school did not. Wow, I didn't know that wound up 625 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: here in Dallas. Here's your guy. Yeah, it's gotta be 626 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard's gotta be because so what you asked him 627 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: to do and he does it and you asked him. 628 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 1: He can get out why he can be like a receiver, 629 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: He can run inside the tackles. I mean, he can 630 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: do anything you ask him and never complains. He just 631 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: goes out there and does it. I mean he's that 632 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: kind of different. He's different than Zeke. Zeke is a big, 633 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: powerful guy. He can get through those little holes. Yeah, 634 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: he can get those dirty yards. And he's gonna have 635 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: to be big this week. It's kind of good that 636 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: he took last week off. Get his foot right and 637 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: everything that's right and it'll come down. But he's no 638 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: question he's gonna be big in this game. Chris, You're 639 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,479 Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing, young man on offense. Who's 640 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: your guy? Dalton Shook? I like it, daland shows to 641 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: tight end like it. Let me tell you something. He 642 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: did something in the office. He told me this that 643 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: George Kittle had a camp. There was a little tight 644 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: end camp that all the great tight ends. He got 645 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: invited to it. So we got to learn some of 646 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,439 Speaker 1: the little tricks and trades, a little secrets. And again 647 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: that you mentioned this earlier, Jim, if the wide receivers 648 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: a cover and if the running backs ain't doing it 649 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: out of the backfield, that middle ground is wide open. 650 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: And he's been catching the ball. He caught two touchdowns 651 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: last week. He caught two touchdowns. He caught two touchdowns 652 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,959 Speaker 1: and Cedric Wilson called two touchdowns. Y'all will never guess 653 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: when the last time two players called two touchdowns for 654 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. I'll give you the year. It was 655 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and six. Wow, and you'll never gets who 656 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: the two players were. Brad Sham asked Baby Bloffenberg this 657 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 1: late in the game on radio, and I was like, 658 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of it. Um was the quarterback? 659 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: Who was? And everybody's guests? He said, you never guess 660 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 1: his baby. So I'm gonna go ahead and tell y'all. 661 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 1: Tell us you would think, Okay, it's a wide receiver, 662 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: maybe a tight end, or it was marrying Barbara and Felix. No, no, no, no, 663 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't Felix wasn't there yet. God, don't get him 664 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: for getting another guy. It was a cool story. Chris's 665 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: killing me that I just can't give up for go. 666 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: I will tell you before the shows text it was 667 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: Mary because nobody would a guess maryon Barber. He was 668 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: one of them. The other one. I don't want to 669 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: say it was Witten. I want to say it was. 670 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: It wasn't Ti. No, this is the two thousand and 671 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: six Okay, Oh it was Terry know its Glenn n 672 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: Terry Glynn and Mary and Barbara. Yeah, Terry. Glenn was 673 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: a tremendous. Thank you. Yes, he was. He's a great guy. 674 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: Who's your guy. They don't throw to him enough. You 675 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: know what that is. They got to throw to him 676 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: to make this game number nineteen. Yes, sir, I'm yeah, 677 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: they got to gate guy. Yeah, he gotta keep doing 678 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: what they ain't leving him, been doing exactly. Yeah, get 679 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: him involved. Let's talk about that. In the last second 680 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: things happened when you thought the nineteen I was gonna say, 681 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 1: let's how important is it that they get him involved 682 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 1: early and often in this game. We'll talk about that. 683 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: We might give some predictions. I know it's early in 684 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: the week. We'll see if we talk Christen and giving 685 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: us one on Wednesday. If not, we I'm sure we 686 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: can get one from from Nayton U and Jim down 687 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: there at the end of the table. We'll be right 688 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: back here listening to Dallas Cowboys Cross Talk or the 689 00:43:35,000 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Radio Network Cowboys Cross Talk broadcasting live from 690 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. Welcome back 691 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: to the beautiful Cowboys Club here in Frisco, Texas for 692 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: our last segment of the first of many shows We're 693 00:46:54,560 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: doing this until training camp Fellas hopefully will sponsor that 694 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: because they'll be the world champion capital they will s 695 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 1: WBC PEO helping to alleviate the hr administrative burden that 696 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: comes with running a business. Leave the worrying to us. 697 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: Visit SWBC peo dot com to find out more. Shan 698 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: and Gross, Chris Arnold, Nate Newton, and our guest of 699 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: honor Jim jeffcot tonight on the show, So Fellas, How 700 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: important is it, Nate, you brought this guy up last 701 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: segment number nineteen? They have way underutilized this guy this 702 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 1: year for whatever reason. How important is it in a 703 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: game like this that they get him involved early? And often? 704 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: The forty nine ers can seem to do it with 705 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. If they can't do it throwing him the ball, 706 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: they put him in the backfield. They get him involved 707 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: in the offense. How important is it that nineteen gets 708 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: involved in this game early? Everything? But because we talked 709 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: about it earlier, you have to be elite to set coverage. 710 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: You just can't be anybody, you know, the Mike Hermans 711 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,879 Speaker 1: of the world. I'm talking we played that jaredd Rice 712 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 1: is the world you had? You had to know where 713 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 1: they were and had to cover them. And sometimes you 714 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: want to bring an extra guy, whether it's outside linebacker 715 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: taking away the slammed for Mica or something like that. 716 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: Hard safety, you know, trying to stay deep because Jared 717 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 1: Rex hit that skinny post of the scene. So you 718 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: gotta do something. Amari. It's big enough, fast enough, quick 719 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: enough that he he don't have to leave the field. 720 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: He's a great red zone player. He's a great goal 721 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: line player because he's so big he can body people up. 722 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 1: So it be who's the offensive coordinator to make sure 723 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: you know the first ten or twelve passes, he ought 724 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: to see four of them, five of them at least 725 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: at least, you know, just to make them set their defense. Yeah, 726 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: helped set in defense, Jeff. The thing I look at 727 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: is the stars a gotta rise. Big time players gotta 728 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 1: play big time. Big time players play big time and 729 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,320 Speaker 1: big time games. And this is the biggest game. The Maury's, 730 00:48:54,880 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 1: the the Marcus, the MICUs. They gotta play bid Z, 731 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: they got Zeke. They gotta play big because like I 732 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 1: always said, there ain't no tomorrow's. This is tomorrow. This 733 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: is it. If you win, you get to play another week. 734 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,399 Speaker 1: If you don't you go home? You know, I don't 735 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,760 Speaker 1: know if Jimmy. You know, Jimmy kind of loved the defense, 736 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: but he would come in offensive meeting rooms up bump 737 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: some of the offensive linma and sometimes he would just 738 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: stop by, Hey, you know you're looking room, just checking 739 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: on you guys. Really didn't if y'all to you know up, 740 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: you didn't make sure Troy standing up, that's just go along, 741 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, because he believed the same as Jeff. Believe that, 742 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 1: Jeff coach, if your stars don't show up, you don't 743 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 1: make it where your stars can compete, be the best 744 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: they can be. That's when you as a coach. That's 745 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 1: when you as a coach. And so we had to 746 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,439 Speaker 1: take that as offensive line. We had to take that personal, like, okay, 747 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 1: coach stop by and say, hey, man, just making sure 748 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 1: you guys all right, We need try to be up. Hey, 749 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: we play against some nice da man that were more 750 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: athletic than us, you know, so and then they come 751 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,879 Speaker 1: in our room and tell us, hey, you know, I'm 752 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 1: an old D line coach. Y'all better show up tomorrow. 753 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 1: And they say that, and you know that's why at 754 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 1: the when we played San Francisco here. That's why he 755 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: said that he guaranteed it because he wanted to put 756 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: pressure on all of us. Yeah, he wanted us to 757 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 1: show up, show up because now he said, and we 758 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 1: asked him and said, well, what if we would have lost? 759 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: He said, how they would have forget about it? Is 760 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: that's right? Yeah, yeah, but that's it. All right. Let's 761 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 1: get to our before we do predictions here in a minute, 762 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: Let's get to our brass tax moment presented by Liberty Tax. 763 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: Liberty Tax is a proud partner of the Dallas Cowboys. 764 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: Joined the team today at Liberty tax dot com. Forward 765 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 1: Slash Cowboys. Chris, this is the part of the show 766 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: where you jumped the gun a couple of segments ago. 767 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: What are your what are your keys to a Cowboys victory? 768 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 1: What do the Cowboys need to do to win this game? 769 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: On Sunday? Deck Prescott. First of all, Ezekiel Elliott in 770 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 1: the run game at Zeke and Tony have got to 771 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 1: be weapon. You've got to create that balance so that 772 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: we were talking about this earlier that forty nine ers 773 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 1: don't do that cover too. They don't put that shell 774 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: on the top and move that safety. They got to 775 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 1: keep him down close so that Dad can create the 776 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 1: big plays for a Maori or get the ball to 777 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 1: said Wilson or whatever they need to do or CD. 778 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: And by the way, Ced Lamb might be running the 779 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: ball like he did a couple of times this year 780 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 1: as well. Those are called unscouted plays. There'll be some 781 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 1: surprises that Kelly Moore's gonna I want to see some 782 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 1: unscouted plays and surprises, but I also want to see 783 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott basically do everything he can to win this game. 784 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that is because he's 785 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: the leader of the team. If he's successful, I think 786 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 1: they will all be successful. My other little note that 787 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,800 Speaker 1: they got to the other key to the game. The 788 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense has to create takeaways. The offense and the 789 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: only team they need to score. I think the Cowboys 790 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: defense will score because they are that explosive. I think 791 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: the offense feeds off the defense. Defense feeds off the offense. 792 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 1: That's why this whole team is won. And I think, 793 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, if those two things happen, the Dallas Cowboys 794 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 1: win the game. The thing they have to do is 795 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 1: not giving them unforced errors. That means, you know, obviously turnovers, turnovers, 796 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: that and off side penalties and penalties. That's what I'm 797 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: drop drops, but not really the penalties, the unforced errors. 798 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 1: The team that's in the NFL leading to the NFL 799 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,879 Speaker 1: and penalties right now is the Cowboys. The Green Bay 800 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: Packers are on the other end of the spectrum. We 801 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: cannot have unforced errors. We can't have that. We can't 802 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: have it off side, we can't have holding. You can't 803 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,800 Speaker 1: blame the refs because they're gonna call the game the 804 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: way they're gonna call it. You gotta go out there 805 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: and say, hey, I'm not gonna put myself in a 806 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: situation offensively or defensively. That's going to be the key. 807 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 1: If you got more than seven penalties, you got problems 808 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 1: like what are your keys? Nate? My keys? Is? I 809 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: need to see Dak be the rookie that yeah, well 810 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna make those mistakes and he was gonna 811 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: do any and everything even you know what, that right 812 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: there needs to go out to window. I mean Mississippi 813 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 1: State that yeah, no, I mean rookie, that rookie. Dak 814 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,959 Speaker 1: did whatever it took. He could be. He gonna played 815 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,399 Speaker 1: a bad game when you knew when the game came 816 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: down to closing down, he whether he whether it was 817 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: gonna run, whether he was gonna pass, he was gonna 818 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 1: do whatever it took to win. And see I went 819 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: along with it. Hey, you know, be calful, protect yourself. 820 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,439 Speaker 1: But you know what, you can lick your wounds because 821 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: if you lose the game, you got a whole off season. 822 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 1: Think about it. If you win the game, you just 823 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 1: did what it took to win the game. That's what 824 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: it is. I just see you get that. Man. It's 825 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 1: as simple as that for me, because the best quarterback 826 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 1: normally wins the game, no question, You're right about that. 827 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: I think we got the best one in this game. Yeah, 828 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: Jimmy g somebody got to grab that thumb. Like I said, Man, 829 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 1: I think it's uh was it was the middle the 830 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 1: middle of the tackle. Yeah, it's his job. He got 831 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 1: that attitude, Galla. I like it. It's the throwing hand, 832 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: right hand. Yeah, all right, fellas at that time of 833 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 1: the show, you want to give us a prediction, Chris, 834 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 1: I know it's Wednesday. Yeah, I'm gonna do this because 835 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 1: I truly think that Shanahan wants to control the temple 836 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 1: and the clock and all those things because he knows 837 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 1: his quarterback's not great. I'm thinking it's gonna be a 838 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 1: close game, and I think it's gonna be the final score. Cowboy. 839 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: Remember this game against the Cardinals here, it was only 840 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 1: twenty five to twenty two. I'm expecting the Cowboys to 841 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 1: win this game twenty eight to twenty four. I like it. 842 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 1: I like it. I like this and the Cowboys, as 843 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 1: we all know, we got to stop the run and 844 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: they gotta be physical. And I think it's gonna be 845 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: twenty seven twenty one, six points, Like I said, six points. Yeah, 846 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: there's like the betters, the oddsmakers nate the one point 847 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,280 Speaker 1: every week. Yeah, we've been doing this for eighteen weeks 848 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 1: and Natives had the same point spread every week. But 849 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: you know what, by one. But you know what, this 850 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 1: is why he's right. And that's how come people didn't 851 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 1: respect that three game road winning streak in December. It 852 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 1: wasn't about now, don't get it wrong. We all wanted 853 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,399 Speaker 1: the officers to do better, but there are people, too 854 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 1: many people losing their minds. They won the damn game. 855 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,919 Speaker 1: Yes it was ugly, but you win by enemies, necessary question, 856 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 1: and they did that and that's why they finished December 857 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,880 Speaker 1: four and Old finished the season twelve and five. They 858 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 1: swept the division, the only team in the NFL a 859 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: sweet thrown division and only lost two games in the NFC. Yeah, 860 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,280 Speaker 1: what is it they say? Give me an ugly loss 861 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 1: over a pretty win any day? Thank you, ugly win 862 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 1: over pretty I said it backwards. Don't worry about We 863 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 1: know what you mean. You knew what I meant. You 864 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: know what I meant. All right, I'm gonna say I'm 865 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,280 Speaker 1: with you, Chris. I think it's in the two oneies. 866 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be super close. I'm gonna go 867 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: though twenty seven, twenty four. He's gonna blow three points. 868 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 1: So where are you guys watching the game this weekend? 869 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 1: Do you do what you do stuff for the station? Yeah? Yeah? 870 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 1: What do you do for one of post game stuff? Postgame? 871 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: You on post game show? Yeah, the post post I 872 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 1: do that. I listen to you. I listened to you 873 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: everybody in the car. That's right, Nate, you got the 874 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 1: pregame stuff. Dollascowboys dot com. At the stadium. And where 875 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 1: will you be, Jim, I'll be at the stadium up 876 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:37,359 Speaker 1: in the sweets. Oh you know the Super Bowl rate 877 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: jump on Trod. All right, well, Chris Arnold, thank you 878 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,839 Speaker 1: for anytime. Man, come on back. Nate Good seeded Jim 879 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 1: Jeff Coder guest of honor tonight. This is not the 880 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: last Cowboys Crosstown. We'll be back next week because the Cowbot, 881 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,879 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, Dallas Cowboys Cross Talk, see you next week. 882 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 883 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,439 Speaker 1: and the Less Cowboys Football Club