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Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton. Good afternoon from the Star at Frisco,
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Speaker 1: I am not Derek Eagleton, and I do not know
Speaker 1: off the top of my head the season or the
Speaker 1: episode number of the Break, so I apologize Derek. But
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Speaker 1: produce a three hour block of programming for you guys
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. All three shows back to
Speaker 1: back to back, and I'm joined in studio by Brian
Speaker 1: Broadus of Talking Cowboys and our two breakers. Yeah, David Hellman,
Speaker 1: Amber Garcia, somebody's got to hold it down for the
Speaker 1: original lineup. Yeah, Derek and Nick are pretty busy with
Speaker 1: important Hurricane Harvey related things, so we'll the game get
Speaker 1: thrown in their lap. Yeah, kind of just it's a
Speaker 1: it's a hectic week around here. Yeah, so it is,
Speaker 1: but we're pushing through, just like the Cowboys and the Texans.
Speaker 1: Of course, Cowboys had their final, really their final training
Speaker 1: camp practice at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco
Speaker 1: this morning. The Texans will have a practice closed to
Speaker 1: the public here at the Star Ford Center this afternoon.
Speaker 1: And as you guys mentioned, the game will be played.
Speaker 1: The game is on Thursday night at at and T Stadium,
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Texans and football will be played. But obviously
Speaker 1: life events have taken hold and have taken priority in
Speaker 1: terms of really getting the message out to try to
Speaker 1: help those affected by Hurricane Harvey. And there's ways you
Speaker 1: guys can help. Text Storm Storm to fifty one five
Speaker 1: five five to help, or or you can visit help
Speaker 1: Salvation Army dot org to help give back to all
Speaker 1: those affected by Hurricane Harvey. And as in addition, guys,
Speaker 1: as we continue our block of programming, there will be
Speaker 1: a telethon locally Channel eleven in Dallas associated with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys with cheerleaders former players involved. So call, tune in,
Speaker 1: donate if you're in the DFW area. The number is
Speaker 1: eight seven seven Texas eleven outside the metroplex eight four
Speaker 1: four cares eleven. Those are the phone lines and they'll
Speaker 1: be manned by former players in DCC. So a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of outstanding things being done around here
Speaker 1: and really throughout the country to try to help those
Speaker 1: affected by by the crisis in South Texas. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I know, I mean, you know, it's it's one thing
Speaker 1: for us, and it's important to us. We live here
Speaker 1: in Texas. This is you know, we're part of the
Speaker 1: NFL emily in our own way, you know, got our
Speaker 1: writing counterparts and media counterparts over for the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: But it's so much bigger than a Texas thing, you know.
Speaker 1: And I know if you're listening to this, there's a
Speaker 1: good chance you're from outside of Texas or the international market.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of our fans come from outside
Speaker 1: the North Texas area. But it's so much bigger than that.
Speaker 1: It's just humanity, you know, I mean, just helping out
Speaker 1: your fellow man. And it gets so contentious, you know,
Speaker 1: and not try to make a political statement, but it's
Speaker 1: been a contentious time here for a while, and something
Speaker 1: like this really puts all that in perspective. So I mean,
Speaker 1: whether you've never stepped foot in Texas in your life,
Speaker 1: this is a fantastic chance to help out and be
Speaker 1: good to your fellow man. I think it's it's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's amazing to see everyone come together and try to
Speaker 1: help each other out. Celebrities, all these players that have
Speaker 1: been I mean, we saw Seek make a donation. Right,
Speaker 1: everyone kind of come together and they've been racing a
Speaker 1: lot of money and they still still need a lot
Speaker 1: of money. There's gonna be a lot of rebuilding happening
Speaker 1: in Houston. I mean, JJ Watt just hit the two
Speaker 1: million dollars mark. If he just just now less than
Speaker 1: forty eight hours after he started his fundraiser, he two million.
Speaker 1: The Texans gave a million dollars the NFL Foundation, which
Speaker 1: is head and lined by which is I mean Charlotte
Speaker 1: Jones Anderson is the chairperson. She matched it. Saw the
Speaker 1: Houston Rockets put up ten million dollars. I think the
Speaker 1: MLBPA or the MLB put up a million dollars like
Speaker 1: it's rolling in. But and as great as that is,
Speaker 1: the crazy thing is, I mean, the costs for this
Speaker 1: storm are going to be astronomical billions, probably right, many
Speaker 1: many billions of dollars, so you know, anything you can do.
Speaker 1: I mean that that's the big thing for me, is
Speaker 1: like it's humbling to see what somebody like JJ Watt
Speaker 1: is capable of doing. But if you're gonna forego your
Speaker 1: YOURR five dollars foot long from subway that today and
Speaker 1: put it into a donation, I mean, if that's all
Speaker 1: you can do, that still counts. If everybody does something
Speaker 1: like that, it'll make a world of difference. And I
Speaker 1: think that's really especially in the social media age with
Speaker 1: what crowdsourcing can do. It's amazing to see that. I mean,
Speaker 1: if everybody just kind of gives what they can, you
Speaker 1: can get a long way. And you can speak to
Speaker 1: this personally because you grew up in New Orleans and
Speaker 1: you were there, lived through the Katrina crisis, sure did,
Speaker 1: which I mean and yeah, it's a very and even
Speaker 1: it's only actually today's the twelve year anniversary, interestingly enough,
Speaker 1: which but even in that time span, we've come so
Speaker 1: far in how people can help and how much further
Speaker 1: you know, your message can go. I mean, Facebook was
Speaker 1: barely a thing when that happened, and Twitter was not
Speaker 1: a thing at all, so We've come so far in
Speaker 1: terms of like how much further your message can go,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean we had the Internet back then
Speaker 1: and we're not that far removed from that. But it's
Speaker 1: easier to help than it ever has been in the
Speaker 1: history of ever. And I think that's really cool. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And Brian, we'll get into some football. We'll get into
Speaker 1: Cowboys roster. Trying to cut this thing down by Saturday
Speaker 1: real quick. Though. No details yet on tickets for the game,
Speaker 1: Thursday night, parking, other game day logistics. They'll be announced
Speaker 1: this week. This is stay tuned there. This is the
Speaker 1: Texans game. And Jerry Jones was very adamant about that
Speaker 1: this morning on one oh five three the Fans, So
Speaker 1: you know there he's working with Bob McNair, you know,
Speaker 1: the owner of the Texans, his crew, very capable bunch.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're trying to their best to uh
Speaker 1: to put this game together. You know, the Texans players,
Speaker 1: as you said, Rob, are outside right now practicing. They're
Speaker 1: trying to get their minds right and you know, getting
Speaker 1: ready for a game. It is a preseason game with
Speaker 1: you know, thoughts elsewhere. But there's a lot of professionals
Speaker 1: in this in this business, men and women that at
Speaker 1: times of crisis come together, they put their feelings aside
Speaker 1: and do whatever they have to do for each other.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the most remarkable thing. Amber said
Speaker 1: it herself, you know, just the coming together of players,
Speaker 1: of fans, of everybody. You know, that's that's to me.
Speaker 1: Being a Texan, I am very proud of my home state,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm very proud of the people that
Speaker 1: have come together in the state to try and help
Speaker 1: the people in South Texas. But I'm also very proud
Speaker 1: of the people worldwide that they have donated their time
Speaker 1: and their effort and their funds to try and make
Speaker 1: somebody's life a little bit better in a truly a
Speaker 1: disastrous situation. Well said, Well said. So football will take
Speaker 1: place on Thursday. It's taken place right now out here
Speaker 1: at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. And as
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, camp's done for the Cowboys technically it is,
Speaker 1: and they've got a roster to set on September second,
Speaker 1: and I would imagine at this point they've whittled it
Speaker 1: down to maybe a couple of spots. One final impression,
Speaker 1: guys can make Thursday night. We'll see. But You've got
Speaker 1: a game for us at some point in this show, right,
Speaker 1: I do. I'm always ready to play. I'm always ready
Speaker 1: to play games with you guys, and I because I
Speaker 1: always feel like I try and try and take a
Speaker 1: little bit of a personnel man's perspective here, and let's
Speaker 1: see what you guys think, because these are the discussions
Speaker 1: you have when you get in these rooms. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna open this up just to everybody. Everybody can have
Speaker 1: an answer to this, and I'm not going to pick
Speaker 1: on anybody particular, maybe Dave, but day you can start
Speaker 1: us off having said that, I mean said that Dave.
Speaker 1: Dave more confident playing well against the New York Giants
Speaker 1: Justin Duran or Jonathan Cooper. Oh, that's a new one
Speaker 1: that's not looking because you you made a lot of
Speaker 1: these before camping. I did, I did. I did some
Speaker 1: of those. Yeah, this is I headed this is when
Speaker 1: this camp ends. Bit we did, But I'm gonna save
Speaker 1: that for our show because we that was our Okay,
Speaker 1: that was our thing. So tomorrow maybe we'll get up
Speaker 1: to that. So I just wanted to play this game,
Speaker 1: though I've got all kinds of games Rob. You know
Speaker 1: that at a game show man Milton Bradley here, I'd
Speaker 1: like to preface this and say I don't I'm not
Speaker 1: particularly worried about either one. But give me, give me
Speaker 1: Cooper just honestly, which Cooper is going to have his
Speaker 1: hands full? Because that New York front is gross? I mean,
Speaker 1: Damon Harrison, Olivier, Vernon Jpp. Who's there do they still have?
Speaker 1: Who's their other tackles? They drafted one though they not
Speaker 1: who they draft I can't remember. I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of who they drafted. Doesn't matter, it's they have a
Speaker 1: very good front. But Cooper has been practicing all month.
Speaker 1: He's got all pros on either side of him. Obviously
Speaker 1: Justin Durant when he's out there, he'll probably be next
Speaker 1: to Sean Lee, but he hasn't really done a whole lot.
Speaker 1: I'll go Cooper and bar I'm gonna go with Cooper
Speaker 1: as well, just because of the fact that we haven't
Speaker 1: really seen Justin Durant play much. And although he did
Speaker 1: say this week he mentioned how because he's a veteran,
Speaker 1: he's been around the league for a while, he does
Speaker 1: really need those reps in the preseason. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: think you still kind of need them, and I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna go with Coop. Coop, I'll go justin Durant, all right,
Speaker 1: the rebel. He's a grizzled veteran. They've been easing him
Speaker 1: in on purpose. You know that he knew they had
Speaker 1: a plan all along. The elbow was good, has been
Speaker 1: good for a while that he had the offseason surgery
Speaker 1: with and I Dave kind of spoke to it. When
Speaker 1: you think about the matchup in that game, a Giant's
Speaker 1: front is gonna be tough. So I wish I remember
Speaker 1: who they drafted. It's bothered me, Yeah, but go ahead. Defense.
Speaker 1: Washington took our guy from Alabama. That was a big one.
Speaker 1: But no, I'd go with that just based on the matchup,
Speaker 1: just really for the entire offensive line, because that was
Speaker 1: the key for me in in watching the Cowboys lose
Speaker 1: both those games, was Dalvin Tomlinson from Alabama. There we
Speaker 1: go another Alabama guys. I'll throw this out there, which
Speaker 1: if the success of the Dallas defense against the Giant,
Speaker 1: I'm putting it entirely on their secondary because I think
Speaker 1: O'Dell Beckham's gonna play. Brian Marshall's still there, Sterling Shepherd
Speaker 1: is there. I don't know if you noticed this, Brian,
Speaker 1: we know that they were scout teaming for Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: They were. They're scout teaming for Evan Ingram too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's another one, the tied end from Old Miss. They
Speaker 1: think enough of Evan Ingram there Giant's first round pick
Speaker 1: that they've got. I mean, they've got a designated guy
Speaker 1: in their scout team offense that is playing him, which
Speaker 1: that strikes me as being a big deal. That is
Speaker 1: a big deal. So whether it's Byron Jones should have
Speaker 1: a woozier Sean Lee, whoever's got to deal with him.
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be interesting. And I think
Speaker 1: how well they defend the Giants is much more on
Speaker 1: the secondary than Justin Durant. I'm gonna answer this question
Speaker 1: about Durant. You know, Jerry Jones talked about it. You're
Speaker 1: gonna get with him, Durant and Jalen Smith. He talked
Speaker 1: about one player, you know, think about him as one player, right.
Speaker 1: You can very well see Jalen Smith be a first down,
Speaker 1: second down player. Justin Durant play on third down in
Speaker 1: the nickel, which he I've seen him make remember Week
Speaker 1: two and knocked the fourth down passed down the Redskins
Speaker 1: that week. Absolutely, so keep an eye on Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: being the first second down player, and then Justin Durant
Speaker 1: being a third down player, and bar is Jeff Heath
Speaker 1: no more than a role player. That's a tough one,
Speaker 1: right throwing I'm out there, you know, coming in, I
Speaker 1: really thought he could be that starter, yes, that starting guy,
Speaker 1: but reliable guy. Yeah. I mean everyone was really hyped
Speaker 1: up for him, and it's kind of gone downhill since
Speaker 1: we got started. I feel like it's going down but
Speaker 1: I do think it's just gonna take him a little
Speaker 1: bit longer to get to that starting role that started Roles, right,
Speaker 1: But I think he has it in him. I think
Speaker 1: he does it just might I don't know. I like
Speaker 1: what you're saying. That's a tough question. I mean, he
Speaker 1: definitely is a role player. He can definitely help out
Speaker 1: there when when he can and when he does special
Speaker 1: teams in the backups. Yeah, but I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I would say possibly in the future. He I just
Speaker 1: I would like to give him a little more time,
Speaker 1: But I think he could potentially be a starter. Rob. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he is he's got more takeaways the last two years
Speaker 1: than anybody on this defense, which is that it's not
Speaker 1: a huge measuring stick, but hey, what's our line here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think he had what two picks against
Speaker 1: Tampa couple years ago and that was that was it
Speaker 1: led the team two years in a row with two
Speaker 1: I think based off of the game the other night,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure exactly what happened there, but one
Speaker 1: of the touchdown passes by Derek Carter was a miscommunication
Speaker 1: there and safety's corners, So that's kind of stuff you
Speaker 1: got to clean up by Froze in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field. Absolutely, and if he's gonna play that single high,
Speaker 1: you can't have that. But I think I still believe
Speaker 1: that the coaches are confident in him. Every time he's
Speaker 1: gotten more and more playing time, he's done something with it.
Speaker 1: And I think overall he's had a good camp. So
Speaker 1: David Hillman, my expectation for him hasn't changed. I never
Speaker 1: But you're like anbar she she had some better hope
Speaker 1: than he's a starter. He's gonna start at safety, He's
Speaker 1: gonna make some plays, he's gonna make some mistakes. He's
Speaker 1: like people aren't. I don't think people are gonna be
Speaker 1: over the moon in love with what he does. But
Speaker 1: I think he's he's gonna be solid and he's gonna
Speaker 1: be dependable. He's usually pretty reliable about staying on the field,
Speaker 1: which is big. But I've just always it's kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, when you argue about cornerback. I think of
Speaker 1: it as I think of it as three instead of two,
Speaker 1: you know, And I the same thing with safety. I
Speaker 1: think Xavier Woods should have a woozier. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be an all hands on deck type of thing.
Speaker 1: I think the best well, not just rotational. How often
Speaker 1: did we see jj oh, I'm with you and Heath
Speaker 1: in there last year where you're talking about even maybe
Speaker 1: as many as four safeties really being a part of this.
Speaker 1: You play Wilcox for sixty plays, he's liable to make
Speaker 1: a mistake. You play it for forty plays, right, you
Speaker 1: limit the mint and the mistake, And so I think
Speaker 1: of it as you're gonna have other guys helping Heath
Speaker 1: to minimize that risk and to help carry that load.
Speaker 1: So no, he's not He's not cam Chancellor. He's not
Speaker 1: going to make the pro Bowl, but he's gonna be
Speaker 1: one of a few guys that they lean on and
Speaker 1: he's he's going to be in the starting lineup. But
Speaker 1: I just I think of it as more of a
Speaker 1: nebulous type of deal than just all in. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: On the defensive line, which suspension will hurt the most,
Speaker 1: David Irving or Demontre Moore. I will go with David
Speaker 1: Irving because of his versatility that he can help more
Speaker 1: on the edge, specifically that left end spot or kicking
Speaker 1: inside at tackle. I mean, some of his best production
Speaker 1: last year was playing tackle. So just the number of
Speaker 1: spots he could play. Although I will say More has
Speaker 1: had a nice preseason. We've kind of seen some of
Speaker 1: what he can do off the edge. If you're basing
Speaker 1: it based on who's had the better preseason, it's Demontre Moore.
Speaker 1: He's been awesome. Yeah, I like that too, Demontre Moore
Speaker 1: or I definitely like Demontre Moore right now. He's I mean,
Speaker 1: he's been doing a lot, way more than David Irving,
Speaker 1: right And but the fact that David Irving is facing
Speaker 1: a four game suspension versus the two games suspension is
Speaker 1: very different. Great point. So that's a that's a tough
Speaker 1: one there Again, I mean, are we talking about a
Speaker 1: play wise who is better or time wise? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's time. You're absolutely right about the two to the four.
Speaker 1: But but you seem like everybody agrees to Demontre More
Speaker 1: has been a better player than David Irving in this camp. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And Irving has been slowed too. I think he's had
Speaker 1: an ankle injury too, kept him out some. Yeah, Demontre
Speaker 1: Moore has looked at times like their best rusher. On
Speaker 1: some days he looks like a guy who was drafted
Speaker 1: in the top one hundred, which he was, yes, which
Speaker 1: that's not a knock on David. I think the biggest
Speaker 1: knock on David Irving has always been his consistency. And
Speaker 1: I think you've seen more of the same of that
Speaker 1: this you know, past six weeks or so. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's had some really great moments, he's had some and
Speaker 1: and he has had some injury issues, but he's had
Speaker 1: some other days where you don't see him show up
Speaker 1: as much. I definitely think Demontre Moore shown up more
Speaker 1: often in the games. So Tubec, you got an opinion
Speaker 1: on that one. I'll tell you what. I totally agree
Speaker 1: with what you guys are saying. I've kind of always
Speaker 1: thought that if Moore could play like he did in
Speaker 1: Seattle and part of the rotation that they were able
Speaker 1: to do, and he's got better players around him in Seattle.
Speaker 1: But I think he's shown come in here and shown
Speaker 1: these coaches that he can stand him up, put his
Speaker 1: hand down, you can move him around a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think he's still got that ability to get to
Speaker 1: the passer. And nothing against David Irbert. I think David
Speaker 1: Irbin playing is a defensive tackle is really really I
Speaker 1: mean I've watched him something practice where he's been pretty good,
Speaker 1: you know, and then the and then in the Raider
Speaker 1: game he did some pretty decent things. But I still
Speaker 1: think more has been better than him. I agree with
Speaker 1: everybody there. When they signed him, my thought was well,
Speaker 1: why no, no, no, it wasn't. It was just like, well,
Speaker 1: look at the money they gave him, and look at
Speaker 1: his situation, and if he's not great, he doesn't make
Speaker 1: the team. Whatever. Now I'm like, two games is gonna
Speaker 1: be tough. I'm just like they got to get him back,
Speaker 1: like he's a vital part of this whole. Like if
Speaker 1: all things were equal and everybody's help and play opening
Speaker 1: night against the Giants, is he your right end? I'd
Speaker 1: love to have seen him play against the Giants because
Speaker 1: that's his former team who drafted him. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's on the field to open the game,
Speaker 1: but I don't think that matters better than Benson Mayo. Well,
Speaker 1: you know they're not. It's gonna be, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Crawford's gonna play. Yeah, Lawrence on the right side, but
Speaker 1: I mean he would certainly he would be a big
Speaker 1: time part of that rotation. I gotta believe David. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if noah' Zekiel Elliott, I'd start blanket running back Alfred Morris.
Speaker 1: And why because he looks awesome. I mean, you can
Speaker 1: answer the question he's had. I think I think it
Speaker 1: was the UM what was the Rams game? He kind
Speaker 1: of didn't wasn't great. But the rest of these preseason games,
Speaker 1: he's looked awesome. He's looked shifty, he's looked quicker. He
Speaker 1: is a beast at that zone blocking scheme where I
Speaker 1: mean he can have his pass blocking stuff too. Now
Speaker 1: well and the other day, I mean, ironically, I'm not
Speaker 1: blaming him his fault. I'm not blaming he tried. I
Speaker 1: know he which Honestly, I thought he did a great job.
Speaker 1: He got across the pocket, picked up a blitzing corner
Speaker 1: and just the dude just made the play. I'm not
Speaker 1: holding that against Yeah. So I just I know, and
Speaker 1: maybe maybe I think too much about it, but I
Speaker 1: just know what he did in Washington and nothing that
Speaker 1: he's done in training camp leads me to believe that
Speaker 1: he's a different player, you know, like he doesn't he
Speaker 1: doesn't look like this slow He doesn't look like this
Speaker 1: slow old man who like whose best years are behind him.
Speaker 1: He looks like a guy who can still carry the
Speaker 1: ball twenty times and he's probably not gonna break any
Speaker 1: seventy yard touchdowns like Zeke can. But I think if
Speaker 1: you give him the ball eighteen to twenty three times
Speaker 1: a game, like, I think he can average four and
Speaker 1: a half or maybe even five yards to carry behind
Speaker 1: this line. I just I think he looks really good.
Speaker 1: Hey gee, no, I agree. I'm gonna go with Alfred Morris. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, he's had some up and down we started camp.
Speaker 1: He started camp being pretty good, then him kind of
Speaker 1: decrease a little bit, but then he went back up
Speaker 1: and I just really like how he really didn't let
Speaker 1: anything affect him. You know, he kept pushing, he kept playing,
Speaker 1: and he kept playing well. And I like what he's
Speaker 1: doing honestly, compared to Darren McFadden, I'm really not feeling
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not he's been doing okay. I just
Speaker 1: I see Alfred Moore is with way more energy and
Speaker 1: more pushing. I don't know what it is about Darren McFadden,
Speaker 1: but when I do see him out on the field,
Speaker 1: I just see him a little bit stiff for something.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it is. And actually I was
Speaker 1: about to say that, like I feel like I'm hard
Speaker 1: on the board. She got the board. He he just looks,
Speaker 1: he just looks like he's gonna be tackled or slow.
Speaker 1: But to his credit and I I he deserves more
Speaker 1: credit than he gets. That's not the I mean he's
Speaker 1: falling forward, he's hitting holes that toss sweep against the raiders.
Speaker 1: Well well why but yeah, he got around the corner.
Speaker 1: That's his strength, right, He's always been a more wider,
Speaker 1: more upright runner, and Alfred has shift year between the tackles.
Speaker 1: That's his game. That's Does she right about the stiffness
Speaker 1: of the player, Yeah, I mean he's not. I don't
Speaker 1: disagree with the way. Yeah. Um, one looks one looks
Speaker 1: like he's like hiding behind and boom he's out. He's
Speaker 1: out the door. And then another guy's kind of like
Speaker 1: kind of like I just can't. But then he turned
Speaker 1: the corner on that one thing. So you're like going, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play Devil's advocate against myself, which is in
Speaker 1: the opportunity ahead and the opportunities that he's been given.
Speaker 1: Darren McFadden has not looked bad. I will say the
Speaker 1: last two games he's run the ball really well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: really bad. That Arizona game, that first game Ambert was
Speaker 1: talking about that that was a month ago without the
Speaker 1: starting line. For whatever that's worth. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's bad. I'm not saying, Hey, we're on the
Speaker 1: same side. Yeah, we both said Alfred. Yeah. But I
Speaker 1: know here's the other side of it too, is does
Speaker 1: McFadden fit more of a complimentary role anyway? More so
Speaker 1: than I'll go with Alfred because I think McFadden can
Speaker 1: be more of that change of pace. Had missed another
Speaker 1: block yesterday? Did he? Yeah? What's it's it's scaring me now. Now,
Speaker 1: if you keep Hillman on this roster, he could do
Speaker 1: that too, Go ahead. I don't think they will. I
Speaker 1: don't think they keep Hillman. I don't. I just Rod Smith.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but Rod Smith sometimes kind of makes me
Speaker 1: a little nervous pass blockets Smith can do. Do you
Speaker 1: just real that's my guy? You think Alfred or I'm Alfred? Okay?
Speaker 1: So all he's right about the complimentary player. All four
Speaker 1: of us say Alfred Morris, and yet I have a
Speaker 1: feeling it'll be Darren mcfad that's why we're all doing
Speaker 1: radio and they're over in the other side of the building,
Speaker 1: which I guess that's That's kind of my point is,
Speaker 1: you know, people listening at home, they're hearing us just
Speaker 1: lavishing Alfred Morris with praise, and I think he deserves it.
Speaker 1: I don't think Darren McFadden has been poor by any
Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination. I think he's been especially in
Speaker 1: the games. He's he's done pretty well with the opportunities
Speaker 1: he's been given. I mean, against the Colts, he was
Speaker 1: averaging like six yards of pop. He did fumble in
Speaker 1: the red zone, but I think he had eleven touches
Speaker 1: and wound up with like seventy yards or something in
Speaker 1: like one quarter of work. So you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: sitting here. We're splitting hairs basically, is kind of how
Speaker 1: I don't ye a, gee, this guy is making a
Speaker 1: late push for a roster spot. Mm hmmm. You know
Speaker 1: who I'm gonna go with? Lens or whoa? Whoa? I
Speaker 1: don't think who are you? All right? You know? No? Here,
Speaker 1: here's my theory. I mean, this is this theory. This
Speaker 1: is my observation. Oh okay, he has not been good. Okay,
Speaker 1: he has made some place, yes, but they're not going
Speaker 1: to keep him just because of him being a wide receiver, right,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna stay here for that role. Sure, Okay.
Speaker 1: Now on the other side, he's being awful. Also, biggest weakness.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing, here's my problem here. I just well,
Speaker 1: you're stepping right out big. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are seeing in him. I don't know why they
Speaker 1: keep giving him as many opportunities as they have. Sure,
Speaker 1: but I find it hard to believe that. Honestly, if
Speaker 1: he makes the team, I'm not confused. I'm gonna be confused,
Speaker 1: and I would not understand that decision. But I just
Speaker 1: find it hard to believe that he wouldn't somehow just
Speaker 1: because of how many opportunities the cow given him. Sure,
Speaker 1: I'll throw it, I'll I will buy you dinner if
Speaker 1: he makes the fifty three. If he's on the fifty three,
Speaker 1: don't bet her. She usually wins. I'd eat some bad can.
Speaker 1: Other day on periscope, it was terrible. Lance Lanore is
Speaker 1: exactly the type of guy that winds up on the
Speaker 1: practice perfect for the practice. He's versatile, he can do
Speaker 1: about five jobs. He's shown flashes of talent. We know
Speaker 1: they like him to begin with, or else they wouldn't
Speaker 1: have brought him in here as late as they did,
Speaker 1: Like they looked for an excuse to get him in
Speaker 1: here in June, and that of you know, signing him
Speaker 1: right after the draft. So I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: he's if he makes the team, I would be very
Speaker 1: surprised if he makes the active ross. Who do you got, Rob?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you're I'm gonna ask you to say,
Speaker 1: who who do you got? A late who's making a
Speaker 1: late push? Lewis Neil? Is that fairer? Is he already
Speaker 1: on the team. I'll tell you what. I think he's
Speaker 1: still in a battle with I think he's still in
Speaker 1: a battle but yeah, but yeah, I think dad, But
Speaker 1: I think he's he's a guy that keeps showing up.
Speaker 1: Is he better? Okay? Is he better than seventy four?
Speaker 1: Is he's shown more than Ivy? And I don't think
Speaker 1: they're going to protect the draft by the way, I've
Speaker 1: noticed Lewis Neil more than Joey Ivy And maybe that's
Speaker 1: not fair, but that's just me. How about you? There
Speaker 1: a j no, I would go the other way. Really, Uh,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I think Lewis Neil has had the
Speaker 1: better camp, and he shows he has shown more as
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. But Joey Ivy first, he's bigger, he
Speaker 1: looks more like a defensive tackle. Get about to make
Speaker 1: her point? Well, yeah, and he's shown flashes, He's shown
Speaker 1: promise for what he could become. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: as good as Neil was this month, But when you're
Speaker 1: talking about the last guy on your defensive line anyway,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they kept Ivy over Neil especially.
Speaker 1: That's a good though. Who was who was the most
Speaker 1: excited when Joey Ivy joined this team? Yeah, the defensive
Speaker 1: line coach. He was fist pumping in the war room.
Speaker 1: He was pretty coach. What do you think about that,
Speaker 1: Joey Ivy pick? Oh, solid, solid, Dick. She needs to
Speaker 1: be more consistent there. Everybody needs to be more consistent.
Speaker 1: Everybody to Rod, everyone does yep, we all do us included, yep?
Speaker 1: Consists all Right, here we go. Way did you say it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you say somebody? I didn't mean to just I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna cape for the guy who've been caping for
Speaker 1: this whole time. Noah Brown. But at this point, I
Speaker 1: don't think he's making a late push though. I think
Speaker 1: he's just got a rock solid resume. Amber shoving him
Speaker 1: out of the way. He's got a rock on the team,
Speaker 1: got a rock solid right And actually I came on.
Speaker 1: I came on the break matter. I came on the
Speaker 1: break last week and said I thought they would just
Speaker 1: keep five. But that was before he went out and
Speaker 1: had another gree. Well, see that's saying late push. You
Speaker 1: were thinking he went five, Now it's six. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to be surprised if he's on the fifty three.
Speaker 1: We talked about this at practice. Feel bad for Andy Jones.
Speaker 1: I feel for him because I think if he had bad,
Speaker 1: been healthy and had a full camp, he'd be writing this.
Speaker 1: You know what I can neck, I can't for about
Speaker 1: three weeks. You know, Andy Jones, though it's on and
Speaker 1: you talk about injury. Okay, I'll give him that. But
Speaker 1: Andy Jones had the experience of what happened to him
Speaker 1: last year of not making this team, and that should
Speaker 1: have helped him make the team this year. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: kept him around on the whole entire year on the
Speaker 1: practice squad. He knows the drills, he knows the play,
Speaker 1: you know, and he couldn't finish it though. That's well,
Speaker 1: and you want to talk about injury, but there's also
Speaker 1: was he better than Noah Brown? That's the harsh reality
Speaker 1: of the NFL, though, is like you spend a year
Speaker 1: getting you know, turn up, and then they draft a
Speaker 1: guy that's just more naturally talented, and sometimes there's only
Speaker 1: so much you can do. I mean, they're we talked
Speaker 1: about it with Bryce Butler, like they're always trying to
Speaker 1: replace you. They're always trying to find somebody with more talent. Yep,
Speaker 1: there you go. I want time for one more, sure,
Speaker 1: maybe a couple more. You guys are doing really well
Speaker 1: on this game, David. Yeah. The front office put a
Speaker 1: claim in for Coney Eely and was way back in
Speaker 1: the order in the claiming order. Should they have traded
Speaker 1: for him? Can you give me a hypothetical cost seventh
Speaker 1: round pick? Yes, yes, I would have done that deal. Okay,
Speaker 1: what if I told you that the Patriots didn't call
Speaker 1: them for the trade. How about that? That's just a
Speaker 1: little caveat right there. The Patriots did not call. I'm
Speaker 1: just a hack that works in the media, and I
Speaker 1: knew that the Patriots were interested in trying to get
Speaker 1: rid of him, so you would have called if you
Speaker 1: shouldn't need them to call you, Like, I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure at what they wanted. Why don't
Speaker 1: you call him? Then? I know? I mean that phones work,
Speaker 1: phones work two ways, you know, Okay, But they put
Speaker 1: a claim in for the guy, they did, but they
Speaker 1: never heard from the Patriots. If they were super serious
Speaker 1: about him, they probably would have called. That leads me
Speaker 1: to believe that they're like, yeah, if for some reason
Speaker 1: he falls to us, we're good with it. But like
Speaker 1: they're twenty eight hole right there. That lead that leads
Speaker 1: me to believe that getting cony eally was not a
Speaker 1: super high priority for them. They're just like, we'll do
Speaker 1: it if we can do it. Otherwise, whatever a g.
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys are still in need of some
Speaker 1: defensive end help. Although Taco Charlton I like what I've
Speaker 1: seen so far. He's made a lot of progress, but
Speaker 1: he got here. He's been playing playing real well. But
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the guys that once suspended
Speaker 1: Charles Stapper can't really rely on him and I like
Speaker 1: what you're saying. I'm just saying, whether it's that guy
Speaker 1: or not, whoever it is, I just think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: still needed to bring in some extra help on that position.
Speaker 1: I don't claim to be an expert on Cony Ealy.
Speaker 1: I know he's been in the league a few years
Speaker 1: and he's had a few sacks, had a nice Super
Speaker 1: Bowl one time of the Super Bowl performances of all time.
Speaker 1: That's about it. Though, Yeah, I mean, hypothetically, if you
Speaker 1: feel like that's a it's a guy you need to get.
Speaker 1: They've got enough compensatory picks coming where they could have
Speaker 1: easily done something like that. So yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: I mean, even a pick for nineteen. I'll throw this
Speaker 1: out at you. Though we're I mean we're not. It's
Speaker 1: not early August, we're five days away from cuts. Who
Speaker 1: who are you keeping or who who's he replacing? Because
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you're doing that trade, I would
Speaker 1: like to think you're gonna keep him on the fifty three,
Speaker 1: no question. Right, Well, you got two suspended guys, but
Speaker 1: even still, I mean, all right, I'm finding a spot
Speaker 1: for him and then making it part of the suspended guys.
Speaker 1: I guess maybe you find a spot for him and
Speaker 1: you get rid of an extra defensive tackle or something.
Speaker 1: I mean, are you gonna cut Tapper? You're certainly not
Speaker 1: gonna cut Taco. You're certainly not gonna cut may or
Speaker 1: Lawrence or who else Crawford. I mean, there's only you know,
Speaker 1: these guys are all locks for your roster, so there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of places to put him where you're
Speaker 1: able to hold on to all the guys you want
Speaker 1: to hold onto that time for one last one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go quick quick. Feel better or worse about what
Speaker 1: you've seen from Lyle Collins that? Who are you directing
Speaker 1: that to anybody? I'll answer that. Yeah, after watching the
Speaker 1: other night, I feel better about his progress because it's
Speaker 1: it's the later we've got, it's the latest we've seen
Speaker 1: of him throughout five weeks of training camp, and given
Speaker 1: the guy he was going up against, Khalil Mack, I
Speaker 1: thought he handled himself well. And I'm not so sure
Speaker 1: about those hands of the face penalties. I know they
Speaker 1: cost the Cowboys a lot of yardage, but he seems
Speaker 1: to be getting better with his technique and there's times
Speaker 1: where he struggled with that. You see the power that
Speaker 1: you used absolutely hard. It's more about working in space,
Speaker 1: and I think we've seen him grow in that area
Speaker 1: as as preseason has going on. I think he's a
Speaker 1: great player. First of all, he's I love him as
Speaker 1: a player. Um. I do think he still needs some
Speaker 1: improvement with those hands, and we've talked about this this
Speaker 1: whole season. Just that's an area he still needs to
Speaker 1: work on. Is the placement of his hands where he's gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, do the push and all that. And he's
Speaker 1: had some little struggles with that. But I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be just fine. I think he's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: But I said this a while ago. You know, I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have his growing pains too. I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, he'll probably have some flags thrown on him.
Speaker 1: He'll probably have some guys who give him some trouble.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he's gonna be Zach Martin
Speaker 1: in the sense that he's gonna step right in and
Speaker 1: be an all pro from the get But in the
Speaker 1: long haul, I think he'll be a okay, excellent guess,
Speaker 1: a great good game broad man. Thank you appreciate that.
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Speaker 1: the break Well, it's not how you start, it's how
Speaker 1: you finish. That's what they always say. Rob decided to
Speaker 1: tap out and I'll just, I don't know, try to
Speaker 1: pick up here and even know what you're talking about. Nick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: who are you? I think I think people some people
Speaker 1: thank you? Thank you? Um, how are you guys doing?
Speaker 1: I heard well, heard some Lyle Collins talk there. We're talking, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we kind of we kind of cover the spectrum of
Speaker 1: all things. Who won the game? I mean, that's where
Speaker 1: I want to know who won the game. You're the
Speaker 1: one that does it, and you're the one who gets
Speaker 1: the answers. You don't ever know what. I like that.
Speaker 1: I thought there were some questions with the Jeff Heath
Speaker 1: ones that was did he did you think that he
Speaker 1: was no more than a role player? And I thought
Speaker 1: there were some really good answers for that, because I
Speaker 1: think that people are torn about him a little bit
Speaker 1: about can he actually be the starter? You know? Oh,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about you when we were talking about it.
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have heard your take. How
Speaker 1: about it? But what was the exact question? Jeff Heath
Speaker 1: no more than a role player? Oh um, yeah, right now?
Speaker 1: I think that's all that he is right now. He
Speaker 1: hasn't shown that he's you know, but he hasn't. I
Speaker 1: guess you would say he hadn't got the opportunity. I
Speaker 1: guess after four years you could start, you can beat
Speaker 1: someone out, but he hasn't done that. But he's getting
Speaker 1: it now, and I think all it takes is one
Speaker 1: or two plays. I mean, I live by it. If
Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers gets the ball knocks out of his
Speaker 1: hands on that sack and they win the game with
Speaker 1: a field goal. I mean he's gonna have like you know,
Speaker 1: there'll be a street heath way like there, and so
Speaker 1: you know he's he's close, he's always arounding the ball.
Speaker 1: He'll have a chance to make plays. I think right now,
Speaker 1: not really. Yeah, I'm interested to see. I like, like
Speaker 1: everybody's answers was pretty much down that line as far
Speaker 1: as he's going to be your starter. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: but they we've also figured out though this team will
Speaker 1: play with a rotation and so that's how they got
Speaker 1: around limiting JJ Wilcox's mistakes and stuff like that. What's
Speaker 1: disappointing with the other that now it's two games where
Speaker 1: Heat has had it really a bust or you know,
Speaker 1: or mentally. You know, the Rams game of Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: was a bad coverage thing on his part. We're allowing
Speaker 1: Cup to run across the field and uncovered. And then
Speaker 1: last week, you know, they throw a ball down the
Speaker 1: middle that he you know, he's got to make a
Speaker 1: play on. But yeah, it's at that part of it's
Speaker 1: disappointing because I always felt like that he was a
Speaker 1: guy that played with some awareness, you know, because they
Speaker 1: had to put himself in position to make plays to
Speaker 1: get those interceptions. And but you know, it's, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe this group is better than what I think they are.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just kind of a little disappointed than
Speaker 1: that he didn't really step completely up in this stuff.
Speaker 1: I think this is a fantastic segue opportunity because we
Speaker 1: are well we're probably not going to see Jeff Heath
Speaker 1: on Thursday night. No, but we are playing a football game.
Speaker 1: Adverse circumstances and all that, I understand, But we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a chance to look at some of these young
Speaker 1: dbs probably, yeah, like Woods, Xavier Woods, Chittabay Woods, Yer,
Speaker 1: not Jordan Lewis, probably, But get some of these young
Speaker 1: guys out there and give him a chance to get
Speaker 1: their feet wet before the season. Does that do anything
Speaker 1: for you? No, absolutely it does, because I mean he
Speaker 1: hadn't seen him all. I mean, you were hopeful that
Speaker 1: you were hopeful that that I was hopeful. I mean
Speaker 1: I'm the one guy that was cheerleading when Nolan Carroll
Speaker 1: was signed, that's before the draft, because I felt like
Speaker 1: he was better than what car was or comparable to
Speaker 1: what car. I was hopeful when they drafted all these
Speaker 1: guys that they would play you know, that somebody would
Speaker 1: try and compete to push him for his job. That's
Speaker 1: that's the that's the biggest disappointment to me. It's probably
Speaker 1: too late for that. It is too late. But I
Speaker 1: think especially Jordan Lewis, he's gonna be an active Week one.
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, it looks a little tough for him. I
Speaker 1: would have a hard time imagining him playing a role
Speaker 1: in Week one. But Cheeto played a little bit yesterday.
Speaker 1: Give give Mite some today too. And he's played a game.
Speaker 1: He has played a game. Give him. I don't know
Speaker 1: how many snaps would you give him out there Thursday?
Speaker 1: Play just cross there and play. I agree with you,
Speaker 1: play go play? Hell are you are you okay with that?
Speaker 1: I mean we've talked about that bunch on our periscope things.
Speaker 1: I mean, you settle at this cornerback spot. You're feeling
Speaker 1: good about Nolan Carroll and all that. No, not great,
Speaker 1: I mean especially I mean Nolan Carroll. It's just my
Speaker 1: opinion always changes on him. It's consistent. Yeah, and that's disappointing.
Speaker 1: I mean, you want a guy that is at least consistent.
Speaker 1: But these young guys, I'm I'm ready to see them,
Speaker 1: just like everyone else. We're all ready to see them.
Speaker 1: Somebody play and go out there and kind of get
Speaker 1: some playing time. Not to sound like Mickey here, but
Speaker 1: he always says about free agents, Well, they're on their
Speaker 1: free agent for a reason. Yeah, And most free agents
Speaker 1: that are out there are inconsistent, unless it's just some
Speaker 1: guy who hates the city. He has to leave, he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be around, and he just doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what kind of contracts offered, he's not taking it. For
Speaker 1: the most part. Look at the guys that left you
Speaker 1: know the door here. I mean both Claiborne inconsistent, Brandon
Speaker 1: Carr consistent on the field, consistent to be on the play, yeah,
Speaker 1: but inconsistent with his play. So all free agents are
Speaker 1: gonna be that way. I mean the Eagles don't have.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think Bobby Taylor in Vincent are
Speaker 1: over there, you know, pushing Carol out the door. No.
Speaker 1: But I think though, I think maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: more disappointed than the young guys with the rookie guys
Speaker 1: might be that Brown got hurt. Yeah, because Brown could
Speaker 1: have been you know you could have had. I don't
Speaker 1: know about you, guys. I think Orlando Scandrick has been
Speaker 1: outstanding and practice and in these games when he's had
Speaker 1: the opportunity. So to me, he's got one spot. Great, Okay,
Speaker 1: give me somebody on the other side that I know
Speaker 1: I can can count on and rely on it. I trust,
Speaker 1: I get that, and I've heard you say it and
Speaker 1: I agree with I don't know what I'm saying, but
Speaker 1: I guess rather than lament the fact that nobody really
Speaker 1: gave Carol a run for his money, I'm sitting here thinking, well,
Speaker 1: your's number sixty overall pick should get some playing time
Speaker 1: here against the Texans. That gives me some optimism that
Speaker 1: he can play a role against the Giants. And if
Speaker 1: he's good, then that's a hell of a brown. No,
Speaker 1: I think your top three set. I thought the top
Speaker 1: three was set in May. Honestly, I thought, basically him
Speaker 1: or Marquez White. Is Markus making a team? I think
Speaker 1: Markus is making the team now that Duke Thomas is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Duke Thomas had him dead to rights. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, you guys already talked about this. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is this last game we call it meaningless. But hey,
Speaker 1: I guess that's kind of the point I'm trying to make, Nick,
Speaker 1: is that who's it not meaning? It's meaningless for a
Speaker 1: lot of people. But if you're looking for meaning, I'm
Speaker 1: watching Cheeto Woozier, I'm watching XA your Woods. Those are
Speaker 1: two guys who I have making the team with no
Speaker 1: questions asked. Who need to get up to speed? Then
Speaker 1: you're looking at Rod Joey Ivy. We were talking about
Speaker 1: Ivy and Lewis neil Um young linebackers. To keep an
Speaker 1: eye on the linebackers because Anthony Anthony Hitchins injury, I
Speaker 1: mean right now, because Hitches hurt. I would put Martin
Speaker 1: Zac on the team, but I don't think that's a
Speaker 1: guarantee by any stretch of the imagination. How you cringe
Speaker 1: your nose up on that one, See I was cheerling
Speaker 1: for him. How about physically looks the part. Don't miss
Speaker 1: tackles in space. He has not had a great camp.
Speaker 1: We keep guys that have had great camps. He has not.
Speaker 1: But I mean Joseph Jones, Keenan Gilchrist maybe a guy
Speaker 1: that's not on this team right now. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think I think to our over here, they're they're
Speaker 1: playing games. You know, they're doing a lot of showing
Speaker 1: games on NFL Net. That someone from the Cardinals. Yeah
Speaker 1: there's the guy. Yeah, Yeah, there's gonna be people from that,
Speaker 1: from that labor ware get ready. And I guess more
Speaker 1: than anything else, the younger half of that defense is
Speaker 1: where I'm looking if I'm trying to give this game.
Speaker 1: Meaning now you talked about two different lists and two
Speaker 1: different numbers you're looking at. You're talking about Woods and
Speaker 1: a Woozier and how they could maybe get onto the
Speaker 1: forty six for the game. Yes, but there's you're talking
Speaker 1: about guys that can still get under the fifty three.
Speaker 1: I want, I want no, but I understand what he's
Speaker 1: trying to do on the forty six. There's stuff I
Speaker 1: was just hopeful that. Yeah, to me, the suspensions and all,
Speaker 1: I mean, how many offensive linemen now you're gonna carry
Speaker 1: because you feel like carrying nine guys? Are there really
Speaker 1: nine guys? I think you on any night? Yeah, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but what if the ninth guy happens to be somebody
Speaker 1: better than you know, Gilchrest Jones one of those guys
Speaker 1: I think, I think the question is going to be
Speaker 1: when you look on the waiver wire for a tackle,
Speaker 1: if he can play guard, great, why do they cut him?
Speaker 1: But if if he's just kind of a solid tackle,
Speaker 1: that could be a swing tackle for you, that might
Speaker 1: mean you have to keep nine because you don't you
Speaker 1: don't have that versatility for another backup guard or whatever.
Speaker 1: Let's say you don't go with Byron Bell and you
Speaker 1: just go with some tackle that you claim off waivers,
Speaker 1: then you know, yeah, Bell and Cleary. I see that.
Speaker 1: To me, it's just like, I feel great about Byron
Speaker 1: Bell's chances to make this team, and we talked about
Speaker 1: it last week. I think he can play four of
Speaker 1: the five positions, there's no question, but play well. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you're talking about your backup, you're probably not talking
Speaker 1: about a guy i'd like to you know, I think
Speaker 1: Joe Looney could play in a game if he had to, yeah,
Speaker 1: and do well. No, no, no, But I'm just you're
Speaker 1: kind of you're kind of saying, well, maybe the backup
Speaker 1: doesn't have to play well. I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: by that. I think he'll need seven active linemen for
Speaker 1: a game day if Looney is one of them, and
Speaker 1: you're tackle can also play some guard bell. I think
Speaker 1: I'll talk about Chaz Green when he's out of a boot.
Speaker 1: Do you trust Green? Green? Yeah? I want to light Green.
Speaker 1: That's what Yeah, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If you
Speaker 1: know what's what I found? Um very I don't know
Speaker 1: this last game where when he got hurt, I was
Speaker 1: standing up on the sideline working the sideline. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys were able to see it from
Speaker 1: the press box or on the TV or you when
Speaker 1: you rewatched the game, but a few plays before he
Speaker 1: got hurt, there was an instance where he was down,
Speaker 1: laying on the ground and it took him a second
Speaker 1: to get up, and I saw him kind of limping
Speaker 1: a little bit. Is that the right word? When yeah?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, hummm, man, he's gonna get hurt and
Speaker 1: I sure enough next play and I'm like, and we
Speaker 1: talked about this, having guys playing preseason games and versus injuries,
Speaker 1: it worth it or not, blah blah. But when I
Speaker 1: see that, I'm like, they have enough staff that is
Speaker 1: watching this game. How did they not see this? And
Speaker 1: kind of they know their players, right? I pull him
Speaker 1: out of there if he's gonna get hurt. Better not
Speaker 1: be in a preseason game. At least, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't want him getting hurt, but at least no,
Speaker 1: it's a good point. No what though, I bet you
Speaker 1: they did see it and just let him No, I
Speaker 1: mean for him, I mean yeah, yeah, yes, with him
Speaker 1: tough because there's a there's a difference between. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's really gonna be the guy that's gonna be like, coach,
Speaker 1: get me out. You know, he's in a situation where he,
Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't proven that he can withstand the
Speaker 1: pain and play through some of these some of these injuries.
Speaker 1: And I think that was an opportunity of hey, let's
Speaker 1: see what coaching moment, what he does here? Does he
Speaker 1: get up, does he tap his helmet? Does the better
Speaker 1: that he happened? Now, probably we knew it was gonna
Speaker 1: have just think it's always gonna happen. So see that's
Speaker 1: what I That's what scares me now. It scares me
Speaker 1: because I know what Number seventy seven's issue is back.
Speaker 1: It's back, you know, and I need somebody. Do I
Speaker 1: need somebody better than Byron Bell. You're not gonna find
Speaker 1: a guy that's better than Chaz on the waiver wire?
Speaker 1: Are you sure about that? Yes? Because maybe not better
Speaker 1: but reliable. Hey, if a guy is abab yeah right now,
Speaker 1: right now, anybody that's cut from any team and he
Speaker 1: can actually run a forty inside of six seconds, he's
Speaker 1: got to be better than Chaz Green. Because Green, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, because Chaz Green can't wear two
Speaker 1: shoes right now. I think Jazz will be He'll be
Speaker 1: fine for the opener, right that's what they say, Oh,
Speaker 1: he'll ever be fine? Which and this goes back to
Speaker 1: the conversation that we had. If he's going to be
Speaker 1: able to do a job for you playing eight snaps
Speaker 1: at tackle per game and not doing a whole lot
Speaker 1: else and helping the field goal team, maybe that's where
Speaker 1: he needs to be. I think I think he can
Speaker 1: do that. No, I'm asking can you play left tackle
Speaker 1: for you? Not? I meant I wanted to place. I
Speaker 1: wanted to place. He doesn't. He's gonna play three games
Speaker 1: at left tackles he survived, probably not, but and that disheartening.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I mean, isn't that just disgusting? It
Speaker 1: just here on this team? Seventy Tyrant Smith had to
Speaker 1: go into the playoff last year banged up because he couldn't.
Speaker 1: I guess I d Green to play those last three games.
Speaker 1: My point is how many spots, how many teams have,
Speaker 1: how many spots where your starter gets hurt and you
Speaker 1: feel great about your options. That's your job, David, try
Speaker 1: and find a guy that could at least play. They've
Speaker 1: got guys that can play. One of them gets hurt
Speaker 1: a lot and the other one's not as good. I
Speaker 1: hate saying this. I hate this option, and it's never happened.
Speaker 1: But Zack Martin might be your best left tackle, or
Speaker 1: it might be your best right tackle. In Lyle's your
Speaker 1: left tackle. Yeah, and I hate that because I think
Speaker 1: you've got an unbelievable best guard in NFL. Keep him
Speaker 1: at what he does best. But in this case, I
Speaker 1: think Lyle could play left tackle. He'd get right, all right,
Speaker 1: Looney and everyone. I'm going to fold that into my
Speaker 1: overarching point, which is that overarching you haven't you have
Speaker 1: an all pro left tackle and Tyron Smith? Yeah you have, Oh,
Speaker 1: you just you have a right guard and a right
Speaker 1: tackle that could probably do it. We Nick just made
Speaker 1: that point. And then you've got Chadz and Byron Bell
Speaker 1: who Chads let me talk about him at Cleary Chap.
Speaker 1: They like, Chads is serviceable, but he gets hurt a lot.
Speaker 1: And Byron Bell's is not that great, but he's versatile.
Speaker 1: That's basically so I just named like six people. What
Speaker 1: else could you reasonably like? Is there a guy on
Speaker 1: the scrap heap who's going to be able to do
Speaker 1: it better than that? That's the point I'm trying. Maybe
Speaker 1: there is. Well does that look pretty good at the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. I just at some point I just
Speaker 1: think you're like, well you got bo he looks pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Colombo is in great shape. I mean, if you want
Speaker 1: to go that route, I just why do you always
Speaker 1: forget Skipper talk Doug freat retirement. Yeah, I think Skipper's
Speaker 1: on the practice squad myself to talk Doug Frioto retirement
Speaker 1: and move Collins back to guard. I mean, it's there's
Speaker 1: got to be There can't be a lot of worse
Speaker 1: decisions than that. I that's not really if he wanted to,
Speaker 1: I get I just see you wish that you wish
Speaker 1: that Chaz Green had Doug Freeze mentality to play with injury? Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what you wish. See. I'm not ready to go
Speaker 1: to that point where I'm like, well, he's hurt because
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to play through it, Like I don't
Speaker 1: know how severe of a problem it is. And also
Speaker 1: he got hurt in a preseason game. I don't want
Speaker 1: him to play through that. I'd rather he get out
Speaker 1: at halftime and then be ready for the season opener
Speaker 1: and try it. They tried to get him that, I
Speaker 1: mean they tried. They're trying to start him at left guard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they gave him a look, and I think who who?
Speaker 1: They gave him? Mini looks, Yeah, Mini looks. I guess
Speaker 1: my point is just how much better can you reasonably
Speaker 1: hope to feel about it when you've got four decent
Speaker 1: options behind your starter? Like some like it's like the
Speaker 1: age old thing, Like the guy you're gonna gets not
Speaker 1: buying it. The guy you're gonna gets emm at Cleary. Oh,
Speaker 1: I know somebody else's em at Cleary. And the only
Speaker 1: reason you're gonna because you've never seen him play before.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe you target somebody. Maybe maybe now
Speaker 1: we were talking about you instead of training for coney Eale,
Speaker 1: you target somebody's guy they have, maybe they have a
Speaker 1: little bit of a surplus there. Maybe if you maybe
Speaker 1: they're eighth or ninth guy is better than your eighth
Speaker 1: or ninth guy. I have a hard time believing somebody's
Speaker 1: got a better depth situation than this line. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's all we talk about us. No, you want trade
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush for a real tackle? No? Actually, I think
Speaker 1: that there's a good possibility there. You're doing stirring stuff up.
Speaker 1: Think about it. If you've got a pretty if you've
Speaker 1: got a pretty solid or good tackle, you might draft
Speaker 1: one in the fourth or fifth round who's also pretty good.
Speaker 1: But if you've got an unbelievable left tackle in a
Speaker 1: guarded center, you're not really gonna use those same resources
Speaker 1: to have decent backup. So there might be a big
Speaker 1: drop off from here to here, as other teams might
Speaker 1: be here to hear perhaps all the My argument to
Speaker 1: that would be is, I think Chad's Green is officially
Speaker 1: a backup now, and he was a top one hundred pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's enough on hand to get through this
Speaker 1: year with not without having to do anything drastic. But
Speaker 1: I think offensive line, as weird as it sounds, for
Speaker 1: this team should be a priority in next year's draft
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, all right, but we'll see. Like what
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