WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Big Questions Into The Season 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.399 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:14.600 and at Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.320 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:22.680 ready for a break. Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:27.040 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:32.760 Wait were with Nick Eatman, David Hellman and bar Garcia 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:37.320 and Derek Eagleton. Good afternoon from the Star at Frisco, 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:41.960 and welcome to the Cowboys Break inside the SWBC Mortgage Studio. 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.199 I am not Derek Eagleton, and I do not know 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:46.559 off the top of my head the season or the 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.839 episode number of the Break, so I apologize Derek. But 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:52.839 We've got a little line shuffle this afternoon as we 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:56.160 produce a three hour block of programming for you guys 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.920 on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. All three shows back to 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.680 back to back, and I'm joined in studio by Brian 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:08.399 Broadus of Talking Cowboys and our two breakers. Yeah, David Hellman, 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:10.760 Amber Garcia, somebody's got to hold it down for the 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.920 original lineup. Yeah, Derek and Nick are pretty busy with 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.640 important Hurricane Harvey related things, so we'll the game get 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.280 thrown in their lap. Yeah, kind of just it's a 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.720 it's a hectic week around here. Yeah, so it is, 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:27.040 but we're pushing through, just like the Cowboys and the Texans. 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:30.360 Of course, Cowboys had their final, really their final training 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:34.400 camp practice at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.920 this morning. The Texans will have a practice closed to 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:41.520 the public here at the Star Ford Center this afternoon. 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:44.680 And as you guys mentioned, the game will be played. 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:48.200 The game is on Thursday night at at and T Stadium, 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:53.520 Cowboys and Texans and football will be played. But obviously 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:57.440 life events have taken hold and have taken priority in 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.400 terms of really getting the message out to try to 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.480 help those affected by Hurricane Harvey. And there's ways you 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:07.880 guys can help. Text Storm Storm to fifty one five 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:11.480 five five to help, or or you can visit help 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:13.640 Salvation Army dot org to help give back to all 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:17.160 those affected by Hurricane Harvey. And as in addition, guys, 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.280 as we continue our block of programming, there will be 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:25.000 a telethon locally Channel eleven in Dallas associated with the 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:30.720 Cowboys with cheerleaders former players involved. So call, tune in, 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:32.840 donate if you're in the DFW area. The number is 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:37.960 eight seven seven Texas eleven outside the metroplex eight four 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.799 four cares eleven. Those are the phone lines and they'll 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:44.600 be manned by former players in DCC. So a lot 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:48.200 of a lot of outstanding things being done around here 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.160 and really throughout the country to try to help those 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.240 affected by by the crisis in South Texas. Yeah, and 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.639 I know, I mean, you know, it's it's one thing 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:57.280 for us, and it's important to us. We live here 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:59.360 in Texas. This is you know, we're part of the 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.000 NFL emily in our own way, you know, got our 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:05.200 writing counterparts and media counterparts over for the Houston Texans. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.000 But it's so much bigger than a Texas thing, you know. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.920 And I know if you're listening to this, there's a 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.520 good chance you're from outside of Texas or the international market. 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:16.520 I know a lot of our fans come from outside 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.840 the North Texas area. But it's so much bigger than that. 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.040 It's just humanity, you know, I mean, just helping out 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:26.920 your fellow man. And it gets so contentious, you know, 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.440 and not try to make a political statement, but it's 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.000 been a contentious time here for a while, and something 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:35.160 like this really puts all that in perspective. So I mean, 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.480 whether you've never stepped foot in Texas in your life, 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.600 this is a fantastic chance to help out and be 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.040 good to your fellow man. I think it's it's good. Yeah, 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.960 it's amazing to see everyone come together and try to 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:50.000 help each other out. Celebrities, all these players that have 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.840 been I mean, we saw Seek make a donation. Right, 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.920 everyone kind of come together and they've been racing a 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:58.960 lot of money and they still still need a lot 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.320 of money. There's gonna be a lot of rebuilding happening 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.480 in Houston. I mean, JJ Watt just hit the two 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.200 million dollars mark. If he just just now less than 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.360 forty eight hours after he started his fundraiser, he two million. 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.800 The Texans gave a million dollars the NFL Foundation, which 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.320 is head and lined by which is I mean Charlotte 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.039 Jones Anderson is the chairperson. She matched it. Saw the 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.400 Houston Rockets put up ten million dollars. I think the 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:25.599 MLBPA or the MLB put up a million dollars like 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.320 it's rolling in. But and as great as that is, 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.839 the crazy thing is, I mean, the costs for this 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:35.359 storm are going to be astronomical billions, probably right, many 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:39.040 many billions of dollars, so you know, anything you can do. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.599 I mean that that's the big thing for me, is 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.839 like it's humbling to see what somebody like JJ Watt 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.159 is capable of doing. But if you're gonna forego your 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.880 YOURR five dollars foot long from subway that today and 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:53.720 put it into a donation, I mean, if that's all 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.839 you can do, that still counts. If everybody does something 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.320 like that, it'll make a world of difference. And I 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.200 think that's really especially in the social media age with 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.560 what crowdsourcing can do. It's amazing to see that. I mean, 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.839 if everybody just kind of gives what they can, you 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:09.359 can get a long way. And you can speak to 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.520 this personally because you grew up in New Orleans and 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:16.000 you were there, lived through the Katrina crisis, sure did, 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.400 which I mean and yeah, it's a very and even 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.479 it's only actually today's the twelve year anniversary, interestingly enough, 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.440 which but even in that time span, we've come so 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:30.039 far in how people can help and how much further 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:32.960 you know, your message can go. I mean, Facebook was 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.520 barely a thing when that happened, and Twitter was not 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.479 a thing at all, so We've come so far in 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.800 terms of like how much further your message can go, 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.200 you know, I mean we had the Internet back then 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.880 and we're not that far removed from that. But it's 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.480 easier to help than it ever has been in the 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:53.680 history of ever. And I think that's really cool. Yeah. Absolutely, 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.000 And Brian, we'll get into some football. We'll get into 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.479 Cowboys roster. Trying to cut this thing down by Saturday 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:05.440 real quick. Though. No details yet on tickets for the game, 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:09.640 Thursday night, parking, other game day logistics. They'll be announced 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.960 this week. This is stay tuned there. This is the 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.960 Texans game. And Jerry Jones was very adamant about that 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.920 this morning on one oh five three the Fans, So 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.359 you know there he's working with Bob McNair, you know, 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:26.880 the owner of the Texans, his crew, very capable bunch. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.320 I mean, they're they're trying to their best to uh 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:32.680 to put this game together. You know, the Texans players, 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.080 as you said, Rob, are outside right now practicing. They're 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.039 trying to get their minds right and you know, getting 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.920 ready for a game. It is a preseason game with 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:45.039 you know, thoughts elsewhere. But there's a lot of professionals 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:50.640 in this in this business, men and women that at 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.320 times of crisis come together, they put their feelings aside 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.719 and do whatever they have to do for each other. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.440 And I think that's the most remarkable thing. Amber said 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:03.120 it herself, you know, just the coming together of players, 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.320 of fans, of everybody. You know, that's that's to me. 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:12.160 Being a Texan, I am very proud of my home state, 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.000 you know, and I'm very proud of the people that 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.160 have come together in the state to try and help 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.920 the people in South Texas. But I'm also very proud 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.559 of the people worldwide that they have donated their time 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:28.080 and their effort and their funds to try and make 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.600 somebody's life a little bit better in a truly a 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:37.480 disastrous situation. Well said, Well said. So football will take 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.160 place on Thursday. It's taken place right now out here 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.480 at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. And as 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.640 I mentioned earlier, camp's done for the Cowboys technically it is, 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.680 and they've got a roster to set on September second, 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.800 and I would imagine at this point they've whittled it 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:57.840 down to maybe a couple of spots. One final impression, 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.880 guys can make Thursday night. We'll see. But You've got 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:02.880 a game for us at some point in this show, right, 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.560 I do. I'm always ready to play. I'm always ready 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.920 to play games with you guys, and I because I 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.560 always feel like I try and try and take a 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.920 little bit of a personnel man's perspective here, and let's 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.240 see what you guys think, because these are the discussions 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.000 you have when you get in these rooms. So I'm 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.040 gonna open this up just to everybody. Everybody can have 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:22.680 an answer to this, and I'm not going to pick 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:27.120 on anybody particular, maybe Dave, but day you can start 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.840 us off having said that, I mean said that Dave. 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:34.840 Dave more confident playing well against the New York Giants 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:41.079 Justin Duran or Jonathan Cooper. Oh, that's a new one 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:42.920 that's not looking because you you made a lot of 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.800 these before camping. I did, I did. I did some 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:47.800 of those. Yeah, this is I headed this is when 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.920 this camp ends. Bit we did, But I'm gonna save 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.280 that for our show because we that was our Okay, 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.360 that was our thing. So tomorrow maybe we'll get up 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:57.040 to that. So I just wanted to play this game, 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.000 though I've got all kinds of games Rob. You know 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.560 that at a game show man Milton Bradley here, I'd 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.800 like to preface this and say I don't I'm not 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:09.800 particularly worried about either one. But give me, give me 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.880 Cooper just honestly, which Cooper is going to have his 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:16.040 hands full? Because that New York front is gross? I mean, 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:21.720 Damon Harrison, Olivier, Vernon Jpp. Who's there do they still have? 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.800 Who's their other tackles? They drafted one though they not 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:28.439 who they draft I can't remember. I'm trying to think 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.400 of who they drafted. Doesn't matter, it's they have a 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:34.079 very good front. But Cooper has been practicing all month. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.520 He's got all pros on either side of him. Obviously 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.880 Justin Durant when he's out there, he'll probably be next 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.240 to Sean Lee, but he hasn't really done a whole lot. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.560 I'll go Cooper and bar I'm gonna go with Cooper 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.360 as well, just because of the fact that we haven't 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:53.120 really seen Justin Durant play much. And although he did 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.520 say this week he mentioned how because he's a veteran, 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.200 he's been around the league for a while, he does 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:03.640 really need those reps in the preseason. Yeah, but I 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.240 think you still kind of need them, and I'm just 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:10.400 gonna go with Coop. Coop, I'll go justin Durant, all right, 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:16.880 the rebel. He's a grizzled veteran. They've been easing him 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.560 in on purpose. You know that he knew they had 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.320 a plan all along. The elbow was good, has been 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.400 good for a while that he had the offseason surgery 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:25.960 with and I Dave kind of spoke to it. When 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.520 you think about the matchup in that game, a Giant's 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.720 front is gonna be tough. So I wish I remember 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:36.360 who they drafted. It's bothered me, Yeah, but go ahead. Defense. 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.000 Washington took our guy from Alabama. That was a big one. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.120 But no, I'd go with that just based on the matchup, 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.280 just really for the entire offensive line, because that was 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.600 the key for me in in watching the Cowboys lose 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.840 both those games, was Dalvin Tomlinson from Alabama. There we 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.760 go another Alabama guys. I'll throw this out there, which 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.000 if the success of the Dallas defense against the Giant, 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:04.040 I'm putting it entirely on their secondary because I think 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.440 O'Dell Beckham's gonna play. Brian Marshall's still there, Sterling Shepherd 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.160 is there. I don't know if you noticed this, Brian, 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.040 we know that they were scout teaming for Odell Beckham. 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.440 They were. They're scout teaming for Evan Ingram too. Yeah, 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.360 that's another one, the tied end from Old Miss. They 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:20.079 think enough of Evan Ingram there Giant's first round pick 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.360 that they've got. I mean, they've got a designated guy 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.120 in their scout team offense that is playing him, which 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.840 that strikes me as being a big deal. That is 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.000 a big deal. So whether it's Byron Jones should have 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:35.000 a woozier Sean Lee, whoever's got to deal with him. 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.640 I think that's going to be interesting. And I think 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.120 how well they defend the Giants is much more on 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.840 the secondary than Justin Durant. I'm gonna answer this question 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.320 about Durant. You know, Jerry Jones talked about it. You're 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:48.920 gonna get with him, Durant and Jalen Smith. He talked 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.720 about one player, you know, think about him as one player, right. 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.600 You can very well see Jalen Smith be a first down, 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.839 second down player. Justin Durant play on third down in 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.240 the nickel, which he I've seen him make remember Week 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:05.800 two and knocked the fourth down passed down the Redskins 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:09.079 that week. Absolutely, so keep an eye on Jalen Smith 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.520 being the first second down player, and then Justin Durant 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:17.040 being a third down player, and bar is Jeff Heath 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:22.880 no more than a role player. That's a tough one, 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:27.600 right throwing I'm out there, you know, coming in, I 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:32.960 really thought he could be that starter, yes, that starting guy, 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.160 but reliable guy. Yeah. I mean everyone was really hyped 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.400 up for him, and it's kind of gone downhill since 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.520 we got started. I feel like it's going down but 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.720 I do think it's just gonna take him a little 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:52.199 bit longer to get to that starting role that started Roles, right, 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.680 But I think he has it in him. I think 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.720 he does it just might I don't know. I like 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.720 what you're saying. That's a tough question. I mean, he 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:05.240 definitely is a role player. He can definitely help out 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:09.040 there when when he can and when he does special 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:13.240 teams in the backups. Yeah, but I don't know that. 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:18.600 I would say possibly in the future. He I just 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.880 I would like to give him a little more time, 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:26.400 But I think he could potentially be a starter. Rob. Yeah, 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.680 he is he's got more takeaways the last two years 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:33.760 than anybody on this defense, which is that it's not 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.240 a huge measuring stick, but hey, what's our line here? Yeah, 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.240 I mean I think he had what two picks against 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.400 Tampa couple years ago and that was that was it 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.200 led the team two years in a row with two 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:47.000 I think based off of the game the other night, 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.480 and I'm not sure exactly what happened there, but one 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.640 of the touchdown passes by Derek Carter was a miscommunication 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.760 there and safety's corners, So that's kind of stuff you 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.760 got to clean up by Froze in the middle of 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.720 the field. Absolutely, and if he's gonna play that single high, 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:05.320 you can't have that. But I think I still believe 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:09.600 that the coaches are confident in him. Every time he's 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.160 gotten more and more playing time, he's done something with it. 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:14.080 And I think overall he's had a good camp. So 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:18.320 David Hillman, my expectation for him hasn't changed. I never 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.160 But you're like anbar she she had some better hope 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.080 than he's a starter. He's gonna start at safety, He's 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.640 gonna make some plays, he's gonna make some mistakes. He's 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.440 like people aren't. I don't think people are gonna be 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.320 over the moon in love with what he does. But 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.880 I think he's he's gonna be solid and he's gonna 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.200 be dependable. He's usually pretty reliable about staying on the field, 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.800 which is big. But I've just always it's kind of like, 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.560 you know, when you argue about cornerback. I think of 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.720 it as I think of it as three instead of two, 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:47.760 you know, And I the same thing with safety. I 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:51.120 think Xavier Woods should have a woozier. I think it's 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.040 gonna be an all hands on deck type of thing. 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.240 I think the best well, not just rotational. How often 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.640 did we see jj oh, I'm with you and Heath 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.760 in there last year where you're talking about even maybe 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.880 as many as four safeties really being a part of this. 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.520 You play Wilcox for sixty plays, he's liable to make 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.880 a mistake. You play it for forty plays, right, you 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.160 limit the mint and the mistake, And so I think 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.240 of it as you're gonna have other guys helping Heath 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.920 to minimize that risk and to help carry that load. 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:19.760 So no, he's not He's not cam Chancellor. He's not 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.720 going to make the pro Bowl, but he's gonna be 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.600 one of a few guys that they lean on and 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.160 he's he's going to be in the starting lineup. But 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.240 I just I think of it as more of a 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:32.320 nebulous type of deal than just all in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.600 it's good a break or you Yeah, let's break early, 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:36.480 break early, and I'll come back. I got some more 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.280 for you guys for excellent, excellent. 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All right, game 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.320 show host, you want to continue, Alex Trebek, All right, 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.600 then he's on, Rob, This one's for you. All right. 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:16.080 On the defensive line, which suspension will hurt the most, 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:24.560 David Irving or Demontre Moore. I will go with David 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:28.000 Irving because of his versatility that he can help more 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.840 on the edge, specifically that left end spot or kicking 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.080 inside at tackle. I mean, some of his best production 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.399 last year was playing tackle. So just the number of 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.879 spots he could play. Although I will say More has 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.199 had a nice preseason. We've kind of seen some of 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.480 what he can do off the edge. If you're basing 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.280 it based on who's had the better preseason, it's Demontre Moore. 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:50.120 He's been awesome. Yeah, I like that too, Demontre Moore 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.200 or I definitely like Demontre Moore right now. He's I mean, 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.000 he's been doing a lot, way more than David Irving, 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:59.800 right And but the fact that David Irving is facing 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.920 a four game suspension versus the two games suspension is 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:07.160 very different. Great point. So that's a that's a tough 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:10.639 one there Again, I mean, are we talking about a 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:14.320 play wise who is better or time wise? I mean, 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.880 it's time. You're absolutely right about the two to the four. 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.359 But but you seem like everybody agrees to Demontre More 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:24.480 has been a better player than David Irving in this camp. Yeah. Yeah, 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:26.119 And Irving has been slowed too. I think he's had 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:28.960 an ankle injury too, kept him out some. Yeah, Demontre 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:32.040 Moore has looked at times like their best rusher. On 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.199 some days he looks like a guy who was drafted 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:39.640 in the top one hundred, which he was, yes, which 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:41.720 that's not a knock on David. I think the biggest 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.719 knock on David Irving has always been his consistency. And 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:47.400 I think you've seen more of the same of that 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:49.640 this you know, past six weeks or so. I mean, 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.760 he's had some really great moments, he's had some and 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:54.840 and he has had some injury issues, but he's had 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.560 some other days where you don't see him show up 0:20:57.560 --> 0:20:59.760 as much. I definitely think Demontre Moore shown up more 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.200 often in the games. So Tubec, you got an opinion 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:05.359 on that one. I'll tell you what. I totally agree 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:07.439 with what you guys are saying. I've kind of always 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:09.439 thought that if Moore could play like he did in 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:12.200 Seattle and part of the rotation that they were able 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:14.360 to do, and he's got better players around him in Seattle. 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:17.000 But I think he's shown come in here and shown 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:20.560 these coaches that he can stand him up, put his 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:23.000 hand down, you can move him around a little bit. 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:24.919 I think he's still got that ability to get to 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:28.080 the passer. And nothing against David Irbert. I think David 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.879 Irbin playing is a defensive tackle is really really I 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.440