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Speaker 1: Wait were with Nick Eatman, David Hellman and bar Garcia

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the Cowboys Break inside the SWBC Mortgage Studio.

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Speaker 1: I am not Derek Eagleton, and I do not know

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Speaker 1: We've got a little line shuffle this afternoon as we

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Speaker 1: a telethon locally Channel eleven in Dallas associated with the

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Speaker 1: was the UM what was the Rams game? He kind

426
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Speaker 1: of didn't wasn't great. But the rest of these preseason games,

427
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Speaker 1: he's looked awesome. He's looked shifty, he's looked quicker. He

428
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: is a beast at that zone blocking scheme where I

429
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: mean he can have his pass blocking stuff too. Now

430
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Speaker 1: well and the other day, I mean, ironically, I'm not

431
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Speaker 1: blaming him his fault. I'm not blaming he tried. I

432
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 1: know he which Honestly, I thought he did a great job.

433
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: He got across the pocket, picked up a blitzing corner

434
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Speaker 1: and just the dude just made the play. I'm not

435
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Speaker 1: holding that against Yeah. So I just I know, and

436
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: maybe maybe I think too much about it, but I

437
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 1: just know what he did in Washington and nothing that

438
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Speaker 1: he's done in training camp leads me to believe that

439
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: he's a different player, you know, like he doesn't he

440
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: doesn't look like this slow He doesn't look like this

441
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Speaker 1: slow old man who like whose best years are behind him.

442
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Speaker 1: He looks like a guy who can still carry the

443
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Speaker 1: ball twenty times and he's probably not gonna break any

444
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Speaker 1: seventy yard touchdowns like Zeke can. But I think if

445
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Speaker 1: you give him the ball eighteen to twenty three times

446
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Speaker 1: a game, like, I think he can average four and

447
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Speaker 1: a half or maybe even five yards to carry behind

448
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: this line. I just I think he looks really good.

449
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Speaker 1: Hey gee, no, I agree. I'm gonna go with Alfred Morris. Um.

450
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Speaker 1: You know, he's had some up and down we started camp.

451
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Speaker 1: He started camp being pretty good, then him kind of

452
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Speaker 1: decrease a little bit, but then he went back up

453
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Speaker 1: and I just really like how he really didn't let

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Speaker 1: anything affect him. You know, he kept pushing, he kept playing,

455
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Speaker 1: and he kept playing well. And I like what he's

456
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Speaker 1: doing honestly, compared to Darren McFadden, I'm really not feeling

457
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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not he's been doing okay. I just

458
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: I see Alfred Moore is with way more energy and

459
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Speaker 1: more pushing. I don't know what it is about Darren McFadden,

460
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Speaker 1: but when I do see him out on the field,

461
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Speaker 1: I just see him a little bit stiff for something.

462
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it is. And actually I was

463
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Speaker 1: about to say that, like I feel like I'm hard

464
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Speaker 1: on the board. She got the board. He he just looks,

465
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Speaker 1: he just looks like he's gonna be tackled or slow.

466
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Speaker 1: But to his credit and I I he deserves more

467
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Speaker 1: credit than he gets. That's not the I mean he's

468
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: falling forward, he's hitting holes that toss sweep against the raiders.

469
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Speaker 1: Well well why but yeah, he got around the corner.

470
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Speaker 1: That's his strength, right, He's always been a more wider,

471
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: more upright runner, and Alfred has shift year between the tackles.

472
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Speaker 1: That's his game. That's Does she right about the stiffness

473
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Speaker 1: of the player, Yeah, I mean he's not. I don't

474
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Speaker 1: disagree with the way. Yeah. Um, one looks one looks

475
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Speaker 1: like he's like hiding behind and boom he's out. He's

476
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Speaker 1: out the door. And then another guy's kind of like

477
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Speaker 1: kind of like I just can't. But then he turned

478
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Speaker 1: the corner on that one thing. So you're like going, well,

479
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play Devil's advocate against myself, which is in

480
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Speaker 1: the opportunity ahead and the opportunities that he's been given.

481
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Speaker 1: Darren McFadden has not looked bad. I will say the

482
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Speaker 1: last two games he's run the ball really well. Yeah,

483
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Speaker 1: really bad. That Arizona game, that first game Ambert was

484
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Speaker 1: talking about that that was a month ago without the

485
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Speaker 1: starting line. For whatever that's worth. I mean, I'm not

486
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Speaker 1: saying he's bad. I'm not saying, Hey, we're on the

487
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: same side. Yeah, we both said Alfred. Yeah. But I

488
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: know here's the other side of it too, is does

489
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Speaker 1: McFadden fit more of a complimentary role anyway? More so

490
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Speaker 1: than I'll go with Alfred because I think McFadden can

491
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Speaker 1: be more of that change of pace. Had missed another

492
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: block yesterday? Did he? Yeah? What's it's it's scaring me now. Now,

493
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: if you keep Hillman on this roster, he could do

494
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Speaker 1: that too, Go ahead. I don't think they will. I

495
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: don't think they keep Hillman. I don't. I just Rod Smith.

496
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but Rod Smith sometimes kind of makes me

497
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Speaker 1: a little nervous pass blockets Smith can do. Do you

498
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: just real that's my guy? You think Alfred or I'm Alfred? Okay?

499
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: So all he's right about the complimentary player. All four

500
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Speaker 1: of us say Alfred Morris, and yet I have a

501
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: feeling it'll be Darren mcfad that's why we're all doing

502
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Speaker 1: radio and they're over in the other side of the building,

503
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Speaker 1: which I guess that's That's kind of my point is,

504
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, people listening at home, they're hearing us just

505
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: lavishing Alfred Morris with praise, and I think he deserves it.

506
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Speaker 1: I don't think Darren McFadden has been poor by any

507
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Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination. I think he's been especially in

508
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: the games. He's he's done pretty well with the opportunities

509
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: he's been given. I mean, against the Colts, he was

510
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Speaker 1: averaging like six yards of pop. He did fumble in

511
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Speaker 1: the red zone, but I think he had eleven touches

512
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: and wound up with like seventy yards or something in

513
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Speaker 1: like one quarter of work. So you know, I'm not

514
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: sitting here. We're splitting hairs basically, is kind of how

515
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 1: I don't ye a, gee, this guy is making a

516
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Speaker 1: late push for a roster spot. Mm hmmm. You know

517
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Speaker 1: who I'm gonna go with? Lens or whoa? Whoa? I

518
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: don't think who are you? All right? You know? No? Here,

519
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: here's my theory. I mean, this is this theory. This

520
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: is my observation. Oh okay, he has not been good. Okay,

521
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: he has made some place, yes, but they're not going

522
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: to keep him just because of him being a wide receiver, right,

523
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: he's not gonna stay here for that role. Sure, Okay.

524
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Speaker 1: Now on the other side, he's being awful. Also, biggest weakness.

525
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Speaker 1: So here's the thing, here's my problem here. I just well,

526
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: you're stepping right out big. I don't know what the

527
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys are seeing in him. I don't know why they

528
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: keep giving him as many opportunities as they have. Sure,

529
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Speaker 1: but I find it hard to believe that. Honestly, if

530
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Speaker 1: he makes the team, I'm not confused. I'm gonna be confused,

531
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: and I would not understand that decision. But I just

532
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: find it hard to believe that he wouldn't somehow just

533
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Speaker 1: because of how many opportunities the cow given him. Sure,

534
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: I'll throw it, I'll I will buy you dinner if

535
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Speaker 1: he makes the fifty three. If he's on the fifty three,

536
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: don't bet her. She usually wins. I'd eat some bad can.

537
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: Other day on periscope, it was terrible. Lance Lanore is

538
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: exactly the type of guy that winds up on the

539
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: practice perfect for the practice. He's versatile, he can do

540
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: about five jobs. He's shown flashes of talent. We know

541
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: they like him to begin with, or else they wouldn't

542
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: have brought him in here as late as they did,

543
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: Like they looked for an excuse to get him in

544
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: here in June, and that of you know, signing him

545
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 1: right after the draft. So I wouldn't be surprised if

546
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: he's if he makes the team, I would be very

547
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: surprised if he makes the active ross. Who do you got, Rob?

548
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you're I'm gonna ask you to say,

549
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: who who do you got? A late who's making a

550
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: late push? Lewis Neil? Is that fairer? Is he already

551
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: on the team. I'll tell you what. I think he's

552
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: still in a battle with I think he's still in

553
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: a battle but yeah, but yeah, I think dad, But

554
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: I think he's he's a guy that keeps showing up.

555
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: Is he better? Okay? Is he better than seventy four?

556
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: Is he's shown more than Ivy? And I don't think

557
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: they're going to protect the draft by the way, I've

558
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: noticed Lewis Neil more than Joey Ivy And maybe that's

559
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: not fair, but that's just me. How about you? There

560
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: a j no, I would go the other way. Really, Uh,

561
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I think Lewis Neil has had the

562
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: better camp, and he shows he has shown more as

563
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. But Joey Ivy first, he's bigger, he

564
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: looks more like a defensive tackle. Get about to make

565
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: her point? Well, yeah, and he's shown flashes, He's shown

566
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: promise for what he could become. I don't think he's

567
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: as good as Neil was this month, But when you're

568
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: talking about the last guy on your defensive line anyway,

569
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they kept Ivy over Neil especially.

570
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: That's a good though. Who was who was the most

571
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: excited when Joey Ivy joined this team? Yeah, the defensive

572
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: line coach. He was fist pumping in the war room.

573
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: He was pretty coach. What do you think about that,

574
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: Joey Ivy pick? Oh, solid, solid, Dick. She needs to

575
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: be more consistent there. Everybody needs to be more consistent.

576
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: Everybody to Rod, everyone does yep, we all do us included, yep?

577
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Speaker 1: Consists all Right, here we go. Way did you say it? Yeah?

578
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: Did you say somebody? I didn't mean to just I'm

579
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: just gonna cape for the guy who've been caping for

580
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: this whole time. Noah Brown. But at this point, I

581
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: don't think he's making a late push though. I think

582
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: he's just got a rock solid resume. Amber shoving him

583
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: out of the way. He's got a rock on the team,

584
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: got a rock solid right And actually I came on.

585
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: I came on the break matter. I came on the

586
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: break last week and said I thought they would just

587
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: keep five. But that was before he went out and

588
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: had another gree. Well, see that's saying late push. You

589
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: were thinking he went five, Now it's six. I'm not

590
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: going to be surprised if he's on the fifty three.

591
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: We talked about this at practice. Feel bad for Andy Jones.

592
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: I feel for him because I think if he had bad,

593
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: been healthy and had a full camp, he'd be writing this.

594
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: You know what I can neck, I can't for about

595
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: three weeks. You know, Andy Jones, though it's on and

596
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: you talk about injury. Okay, I'll give him that. But

597
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: Andy Jones had the experience of what happened to him

598
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: last year of not making this team, and that should

599
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: have helped him make the team this year. Yeah, they

600
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: kept him around on the whole entire year on the

601
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: practice squad. He knows the drills, he knows the play,

602
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, and he couldn't finish it though. That's well,

603
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: and you want to talk about injury, but there's also

604
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 1: was he better than Noah Brown? That's the harsh reality

605
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: of the NFL, though, is like you spend a year

606
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: getting you know, turn up, and then they draft a

607
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: guy that's just more naturally talented, and sometimes there's only

608
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: so much you can do. I mean, they're we talked

609
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: about it with Bryce Butler, like they're always trying to

610
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: replace you. They're always trying to find somebody with more talent. Yep,

611
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: there you go. I want time for one more, sure,

612
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: maybe a couple more. You guys are doing really well

613
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: on this game, David. Yeah. The front office put a

614
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: claim in for Coney Eely and was way back in

615
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: the order in the claiming order. Should they have traded

616
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: for him? Can you give me a hypothetical cost seventh

617
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: round pick? Yes, yes, I would have done that deal. Okay,

618
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: what if I told you that the Patriots didn't call

619
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: them for the trade. How about that? That's just a

620
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: little caveat right there. The Patriots did not call. I'm

621
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: just a hack that works in the media, and I

622
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: knew that the Patriots were interested in trying to get

623
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: rid of him, so you would have called if you

624
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: shouldn't need them to call you, Like, I mean, maybe

625
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure at what they wanted. Why don't

626
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: you call him? Then? I know? I mean that phones work,

627
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: phones work two ways, you know, Okay, But they put

628
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: a claim in for the guy, they did, but they

629
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: never heard from the Patriots. If they were super serious

630
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: about him, they probably would have called. That leads me

631
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: to believe that they're like, yeah, if for some reason

632
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: he falls to us, we're good with it. But like

633
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: they're twenty eight hole right there. That lead that leads

634
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Speaker 1: me to believe that getting cony eally was not a

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Speaker 1: super high priority for them. They're just like, we'll do

636
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Speaker 1: it if we can do it. Otherwise, whatever a g.

637
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Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys are still in need of some

638
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Speaker 1: defensive end help. Although Taco Charlton I like what I've

639
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Speaker 1: seen so far. He's made a lot of progress, but

640
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Speaker 1: he got here. He's been playing playing real well. But

641
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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the guys that once suspended

642
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: Charles Stapper can't really rely on him and I like

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. I'm just saying, whether it's that guy

644
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Speaker 1: or not, whoever it is, I just think the Cowboys

645
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: still needed to bring in some extra help on that position.

646
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Speaker 1: I don't claim to be an expert on Cony Ealy.

647
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 1: I know he's been in the league a few years

648
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Speaker 1: and he's had a few sacks, had a nice Super

649
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Speaker 1: Bowl one time of the Super Bowl performances of all time.

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Speaker 1: That's about it. Though, Yeah, I mean, hypothetically, if you

651
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Speaker 1: feel like that's a it's a guy you need to get.

652
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: They've got enough compensatory picks coming where they could have

653
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Speaker 1: easily done something like that. So yeah, I mean it's

654
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Speaker 1: I mean, even a pick for nineteen. I'll throw this

655
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Speaker 1: out at you. Though we're I mean we're not. It's

656
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Speaker 1: not early August, we're five days away from cuts. Who

657
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: who are you keeping or who who's he replacing? Because

658
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you're doing that trade, I would

659
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Speaker 1: like to think you're gonna keep him on the fifty three,

660
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: no question. Right, Well, you got two suspended guys, but

661
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: even still, I mean, all right, I'm finding a spot

662
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: for him and then making it part of the suspended guys.

663
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: I guess maybe you find a spot for him and

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Speaker 1: you get rid of an extra defensive tackle or something.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are you gonna cut Tapper? You're certainly not

666
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: gonna cut Taco. You're certainly not gonna cut may or

667
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: Lawrence or who else Crawford. I mean, there's only you know,

668
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: these guys are all locks for your roster, so there's

669
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Speaker 1: not a lot of places to put him where you're

670
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Speaker 1: able to hold on to all the guys you want

671
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Speaker 1: to hold onto that time for one last one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's go quick quick. Feel better or worse about what

673
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Speaker 1: you've seen from Lyle Collins that? Who are you directing

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Speaker 1: that to anybody? I'll answer that. Yeah, after watching the

675
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: other night, I feel better about his progress because it's

676
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Speaker 1: it's the later we've got, it's the latest we've seen

677
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Speaker 1: of him throughout five weeks of training camp, and given

678
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Speaker 1: the guy he was going up against, Khalil Mack, I

679
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: thought he handled himself well. And I'm not so sure

680
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Speaker 1: about those hands of the face penalties. I know they

681
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: cost the Cowboys a lot of yardage, but he seems

682
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: to be getting better with his technique and there's times

683
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: where he struggled with that. You see the power that

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Speaker 1: you used absolutely hard. It's more about working in space,

685
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: and I think we've seen him grow in that area

686
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Speaker 1: as as preseason has going on. I think he's a

687
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: great player. First of all, he's I love him as

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Speaker 1: a player. Um. I do think he still needs some

689
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Speaker 1: improvement with those hands, and we've talked about this this

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Speaker 1: whole season. Just that's an area he still needs to

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Speaker 1: work on. Is the placement of his hands where he's gonna,

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Speaker 1: you know, do the push and all that. And he's

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Speaker 1: had some little struggles with that. But I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be just fine. I think he's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: But I said this a while ago. You know, I

696
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Speaker 1: think he's gonna have his growing pains too. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he'll probably have some flags thrown on him.

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Speaker 1: He'll probably have some guys who give him some trouble.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he's gonna be Zach Martin

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Speaker 1: long haul, I think he'll be a okay, excellent guess,

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Speaker 1: thank you? Thank you? Um, how are you guys doing?

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00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: I heard well, heard some Lyle Collins talk there. We're talking, Yeah,

763
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Speaker 1: we kind of we kind of cover the spectrum of

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00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: all things. Who won the game? I mean, that's where

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00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: I want to know who won the game. You're the

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Speaker 1: one that does it, and you're the one who gets

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Speaker 1: the answers. You don't ever know what. I like that.

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Speaker 1: I thought there were some questions with the Jeff Heath

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Speaker 1: ones that was did he did you think that he

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Speaker 1: was no more than a role player? And I thought

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00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: there were some really good answers for that, because I

772
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Speaker 1: think that people are torn about him a little bit

773
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: about can he actually be the starter? You know? Oh,

774
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: I was thinking about you when we were talking about it.

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00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have heard your take. How

776
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: about it? But what was the exact question? Jeff Heath

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00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: no more than a role player? Oh um, yeah, right now?

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Speaker 1: I think that's all that he is right now. He

779
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: hasn't shown that he's you know, but he hasn't. I

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Speaker 1: guess you would say he hadn't got the opportunity. I

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00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: guess after four years you could start, you can beat

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00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: someone out, but he hasn't done that. But he's getting

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00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: it now, and I think all it takes is one

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00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: or two plays. I mean, I live by it. If

785
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers gets the ball knocks out of his

786
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: hands on that sack and they win the game with

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00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: a field goal. I mean he's gonna have like you know,

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00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: there'll be a street heath way like there, and so

789
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: you know he's he's close, he's always arounding the ball.

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00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: He'll have a chance to make plays. I think right now,

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00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: not really. Yeah, I'm interested to see. I like, like

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00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: everybody's answers was pretty much down that line as far

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Speaker 1: as he's going to be your starter. Yeah, you know,

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00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: but they we've also figured out though this team will

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00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: play with a rotation and so that's how they got

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00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: around limiting JJ Wilcox's mistakes and stuff like that. What's

797
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: disappointing with the other that now it's two games where

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00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: Heat has had it really a bust or you know,

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Speaker 1: or mentally. You know, the Rams game of Cooper Cup

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00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: was a bad coverage thing on his part. We're allowing

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Speaker 1: Cup to run across the field and uncovered. And then

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00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: last week, you know, they throw a ball down the

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00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: middle that he you know, he's got to make a

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00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: play on. But yeah, it's at that part of it's

805
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: disappointing because I always felt like that he was a

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00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: guy that played with some awareness, you know, because they

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Speaker 1: had to put himself in position to make plays to

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00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: get those interceptions. And but you know, it's, uh, you know,

809
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: maybe this group is better than what I think they are.

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00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just kind of a little disappointed than

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Speaker 1: that he didn't really step completely up in this stuff.

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00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: I think this is a fantastic segue opportunity because we

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Speaker 1: are well we're probably not going to see Jeff Heath

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00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: on Thursday night. No, but we are playing a football game.

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Speaker 1: Adverse circumstances and all that, I understand, But we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a chance to look at some of these young

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00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: dbs probably, yeah, like Woods, Xavier Woods, Chittabay Woods, Yer,

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00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: not Jordan Lewis, probably, But get some of these young

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Speaker 1: guys out there and give him a chance to get

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00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: their feet wet before the season. Does that do anything

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Speaker 1: for you? No, absolutely it does, because I mean he

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Speaker 1: hadn't seen him all. I mean, you were hopeful that

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Speaker 1: I'm the one guy that was cheerleading when Nolan Carroll

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Speaker 1: he was better than what car was or comparable to

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Speaker 1: what car. I was hopeful when they drafted all these

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Speaker 1: guys that they would play you know, that somebody would

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Speaker 1: try and compete to push him for his job. That's

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00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: that's the that's the biggest disappointment to me. It's probably

831
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: too late for that. It is too late. But I

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Speaker 1: think especially Jordan Lewis, he's gonna be an active Week one.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, it looks a little tough for him. I

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Speaker 1: would have a hard time imagining him playing a role

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Speaker 1: in Week one. But Cheeto played a little bit yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Give give Mite some today too. And he's played a game.

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Speaker 1: He has played a game. Give him. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how many snaps would you give him out there Thursday?

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Speaker 1: Play just cross there and play. I agree with you,

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00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: play go play? Hell are you are you okay with that?

841
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: I mean we've talked about that bunch on our periscope things.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you settle at this cornerback spot. You're feeling

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00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: good about Nolan Carroll and all that. No, not great,

844
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: I mean especially I mean Nolan Carroll. It's just my

845
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: opinion always changes on him. It's consistent. Yeah, and that's disappointing.

846
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you want a guy that is at least consistent.

847
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: But these young guys, I'm I'm ready to see them,

848
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: just like everyone else. We're all ready to see them.

849
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: Somebody play and go out there and kind of get

850
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: some playing time. Not to sound like Mickey here, but

851
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: he always says about free agents, Well, they're on their

852
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: free agent for a reason. Yeah, And most free agents

853
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: that are out there are inconsistent, unless it's just some

854
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: guy who hates the city. He has to leave, he

855
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be around, and he just doesn't matter

856
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: what kind of contracts offered, he's not taking it. For

857
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: the most part. Look at the guys that left you

858
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: know the door here. I mean both Claiborne inconsistent, Brandon

859
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: Carr consistent on the field, consistent to be on the play, yeah,

860
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: but inconsistent with his play. So all free agents are

861
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: gonna be that way. I mean the Eagles don't have.

862
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think Bobby Taylor in Vincent are

863
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: over there, you know, pushing Carol out the door. No.

864
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: But I think though, I think maybe a little bit

865
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: more disappointed than the young guys with the rookie guys

866
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: might be that Brown got hurt. Yeah, because Brown could

867
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: have been you know you could have had. I don't

868
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: know about you, guys. I think Orlando Scandrick has been

869
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: outstanding and practice and in these games when he's had

870
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: the opportunity. So to me, he's got one spot. Great, Okay,

871
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: give me somebody on the other side that I know

872
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: I can can count on and rely on it. I trust,

873
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: I get that, and I've heard you say it and

874
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: I agree with I don't know what I'm saying, but

875
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: I guess rather than lament the fact that nobody really

876
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: gave Carol a run for his money, I'm sitting here thinking, well,

877
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: your's number sixty overall pick should get some playing time

878
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: here against the Texans. That gives me some optimism that

879
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: he can play a role against the Giants. And if

880
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: he's good, then that's a hell of a brown. No,

881
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: I think your top three set. I thought the top

882
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: three was set in May. Honestly, I thought, basically him

883
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: or Marquez White. Is Markus making a team? I think

884
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: Markus is making the team now that Duke Thomas is. Yeah,

885
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 1: I think Duke Thomas had him dead to rights. Yeah.

886
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: Oh yes, you guys already talked about this. I mean,

887
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: this is this last game we call it meaningless. But hey,

888
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: I guess that's kind of the point I'm trying to make, Nick,

889
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: is that who's it not meaning? It's meaningless for a

890
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: lot of people. But if you're looking for meaning, I'm

891
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: watching Cheeto Woozier, I'm watching XA your Woods. Those are

892
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: two guys who I have making the team with no

893
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: questions asked. Who need to get up to speed? Then

894
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: you're looking at Rod Joey Ivy. We were talking about

895
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: Ivy and Lewis neil Um young linebackers. To keep an

896
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: eye on the linebackers because Anthony Anthony Hitchins injury, I

897
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: mean right now, because Hitches hurt. I would put Martin

898
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: Zac on the team, but I don't think that's a

899
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: guarantee by any stretch of the imagination. How you cringe

900
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: your nose up on that one, See I was cheerling

901
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: for him. How about physically looks the part. Don't miss

902
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: tackles in space. He has not had a great camp.

903
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: We keep guys that have had great camps. He has not.

904
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: But I mean Joseph Jones, Keenan Gilchrist maybe a guy

905
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: that's not on this team right now. Yeah, I think

906
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: I think I think to our over here, they're they're

907
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: playing games. You know, they're doing a lot of showing

908
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: games on NFL Net. That someone from the Cardinals. Yeah

909
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: there's the guy. Yeah, Yeah, there's gonna be people from that,

910
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: from that labor ware get ready. And I guess more

911
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: than anything else, the younger half of that defense is

912
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: where I'm looking if I'm trying to give this game.

913
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: Meaning now you talked about two different lists and two

914
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: different numbers you're looking at. You're talking about Woods and

915
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: a Woozier and how they could maybe get onto the

916
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: forty six for the game. Yes, but there's you're talking

917
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: about guys that can still get under the fifty three.

918
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: I want, I want no, but I understand what he's

919
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: trying to do on the forty six. There's stuff I

920
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: was just hopeful that. Yeah, to me, the suspensions and all,

921
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean, how many offensive linemen now you're gonna carry

922
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: because you feel like carrying nine guys? Are there really

923
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 1: nine guys? I think you on any night? Yeah, I'm saying,

924
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: but what if the ninth guy happens to be somebody

925
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 1: better than you know, Gilchrest Jones one of those guys

926
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: I think, I think the question is going to be

927
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: when you look on the waiver wire for a tackle,

928
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: if he can play guard, great, why do they cut him?

929
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: But if if he's just kind of a solid tackle,

930
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: that could be a swing tackle for you, that might

931
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: mean you have to keep nine because you don't you

932
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: don't have that versatility for another backup guard or whatever.

933
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: Let's say you don't go with Byron Bell and you

934
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: just go with some tackle that you claim off waivers,

935
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: then you know, yeah, Bell and Cleary. I see that.

936
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: To me, it's just like, I feel great about Byron

937
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: Bell's chances to make this team, and we talked about

938
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: it last week. I think he can play four of

939
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: the five positions, there's no question, but play well. Okay,

940
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: if you're talking about your backup, you're probably not talking

941
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: about a guy i'd like to you know, I think

942
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: Joe Looney could play in a game if he had to, yeah,

943
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: and do well. No, no, no, But I'm just you're

944
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: kind of you're kind of saying, well, maybe the backup

945
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: doesn't have to play well. I don't. I don't think

946
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: by that. I think he'll need seven active linemen for

947
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: a game day if Looney is one of them, and

948
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: you're tackle can also play some guard bell. I think

949
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: I'll talk about Chaz Green when he's out of a boot.

950
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: Do you trust Green? Green? Yeah? I want to light Green.

951
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: That's what Yeah, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If you

952
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: know what's what I found? Um very I don't know

953
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: this last game where when he got hurt, I was

954
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: standing up on the sideline working the sideline. I don't

955
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: know if you guys were able to see it from

956
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: the press box or on the TV or you when

957
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: you rewatched the game, but a few plays before he

958
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: got hurt, there was an instance where he was down,

959
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: laying on the ground and it took him a second

960
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: to get up, and I saw him kind of limping

961
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. Is that the right word? When yeah?

962
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: And I'm like, hummm, man, he's gonna get hurt and

963
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: I sure enough next play and I'm like, and we

964
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: talked about this, having guys playing preseason games and versus injuries,

965
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: it worth it or not, blah blah. But when I

966
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: see that, I'm like, they have enough staff that is

967
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: watching this game. How did they not see this? And

968
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: kind of they know their players, right? I pull him

969
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: out of there if he's gonna get hurt. Better not

970
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: be in a preseason game. At least, I mean, I

971
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: don't I don't want him getting hurt, but at least no,

972
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: it's a good point. No what though, I bet you

973
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: they did see it and just let him No, I

974
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: mean for him, I mean yeah, yeah, yes, with him

975
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: tough because there's a there's a difference between. I mean,

976
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: he's really gonna be the guy that's gonna be like, coach,

977
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: get me out. You know, he's in a situation where he,

978
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't proven that he can withstand the

979
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: pain and play through some of these some of these injuries.

980
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: And I think that was an opportunity of hey, let's

981
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: see what coaching moment, what he does here? Does he

982
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: get up, does he tap his helmet? Does the better

983
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: that he happened? Now, probably we knew it was gonna

984
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: have just think it's always gonna happen. So see that's

985
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: what I That's what scares me now. It scares me

986
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: because I know what Number seventy seven's issue is back.

987
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: It's back, you know, and I need somebody. Do I

988
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: need somebody better than Byron Bell. You're not gonna find

989
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: a guy that's better than Chaz on the waiver wire?

990
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: Are you sure about that? Yes? Because maybe not better

991
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: but reliable. Hey, if a guy is abab yeah right now,

992
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: right now, anybody that's cut from any team and he

993
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: can actually run a forty inside of six seconds, he's

994
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: got to be better than Chaz Green. Because Green, That's

995
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, because Chaz Green can't wear two

996
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: shoes right now. I think Jazz will be He'll be

997
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: fine for the opener, right that's what they say, Oh,

998
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: he'll ever be fine? Which and this goes back to

999
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: the conversation that we had. If he's going to be

1000
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: able to do a job for you playing eight snaps

1001
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: at tackle per game and not doing a whole lot

1002
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: else and helping the field goal team, maybe that's where

1003
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: he needs to be. I think I think he can

1004
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: do that. No, I'm asking can you play left tackle

1005
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: for you? Not? I meant I wanted to place. I

1006
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: wanted to place. He doesn't. He's gonna play three games

1007
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: at left tackles he survived, probably not, but and that disheartening.

1008
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: I mean, but I mean, isn't that just disgusting? It

1009
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: just here on this team? Seventy Tyrant Smith had to

1010
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: go into the playoff last year banged up because he couldn't.

1011
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: I guess I d Green to play those last three games.

1012
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: My point is how many spots, how many teams have,

1013
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: how many spots where your starter gets hurt and you

1014
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: feel great about your options. That's your job, David, try

1015
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: and find a guy that could at least play. They've

1016
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: got guys that can play. One of them gets hurt

1017
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: a lot and the other one's not as good. I

1018
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: hate saying this. I hate this option, and it's never happened.

1019
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: But Zack Martin might be your best left tackle, or

1020
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: it might be your best right tackle. In Lyle's your

1021
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: left tackle. Yeah, and I hate that because I think

1022
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: you've got an unbelievable best guard in NFL. Keep him

1023
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: at what he does best. But in this case, I

1024
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: think Lyle could play left tackle. He'd get right, all right,

1025
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: Looney and everyone. I'm going to fold that into my

1026
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: overarching point, which is that overarching you haven't you have

1027
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: an all pro left tackle and Tyron Smith? Yeah you have, Oh,

1028
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: you just you have a right guard and a right

1029
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: tackle that could probably do it. We Nick just made

1030
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: that point. And then you've got Chadz and Byron Bell

1031
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: who Chads let me talk about him at Cleary Chap.

1032
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: They like, Chads is serviceable, but he gets hurt a lot.

1033
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 1: And Byron Bell's is not that great, but he's versatile.

1034
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: That's basically so I just named like six people. What

1035
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: else could you reasonably like? Is there a guy on

1036
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: the scrap heap who's going to be able to do

1037
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: it better than that? That's the point I'm trying. Maybe

1038
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: there is. Well does that look pretty good at the

1039
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. I just at some point I just

1040
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: think you're like, well you got bo he looks pretty good. Yeah,

1041
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: Colombo is in great shape. I mean, if you want

1042
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: to go that route, I just why do you always

1043
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: forget Skipper talk Doug freat retirement. Yeah, I think Skipper's

1044
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 1: on the practice squad myself to talk Doug Frioto retirement

1045
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: and move Collins back to guard. I mean, it's there's

1046
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: got to be There can't be a lot of worse

1047
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: decisions than that. I that's not really if he wanted to,

1048
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: I get I just see you wish that you wish

1049
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: that Chaz Green had Doug Freeze mentality to play with injury? Oh, yeah,

1050
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: that's what you wish. See. I'm not ready to go

1051
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: to that point where I'm like, well, he's hurt because

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Speaker 1: he doesn't want to play through it, Like I don't

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Speaker 1: know how severe of a problem it is. And also

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Speaker 1: he got hurt in a preseason game. I don't want

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Speaker 1: him to play through that. I'd rather he get out

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Speaker 1: at halftime and then be ready for the season opener

1057
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Speaker 1: and try it. They tried to get him that, I

1058
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Speaker 1: mean they tried. They're trying to start him at left guard. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they gave him a look, and I think who who?

1060
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Speaker 1: They gave him? Mini looks, Yeah, Mini looks. I guess

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Speaker 1: my point is just how much better can you reasonably

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Speaker 1: hope to feel about it when you've got four decent

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00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: options behind your starter? Like some like it's like the

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Speaker 1: age old thing, Like the guy you're gonna gets not

1065
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: buying it. The guy you're gonna gets emm at Cleary. Oh,

1066
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Speaker 1: I know somebody else's em at Cleary. And the only

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Speaker 1: reason you're gonna because you've never seen him play before.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe you target somebody. Maybe maybe now

1069
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Speaker 1: we were talking about you instead of training for coney Eale,

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Speaker 1: you target somebody's guy they have, maybe they have a

1071
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Speaker 1: little bit of a surplus there. Maybe if you maybe

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Speaker 1: they're eighth or ninth guy is better than your eighth

1073
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Speaker 1: or ninth guy. I have a hard time believing somebody's

1074
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Speaker 1: got a better depth situation than this line. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's all we talk about us. No, you want trade

1076
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Speaker 1: Cooper Rush for a real tackle? No? Actually, I think

1077
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: that there's a good possibility there. You're doing stirring stuff up.

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Speaker 1: Think about it. If you've got a pretty if you've

1079
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Speaker 1: got a pretty solid or good tackle, you might draft

1080
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Speaker 1: one in the fourth or fifth round who's also pretty good.

1081
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Speaker 1: But if you've got an unbelievable left tackle in a

1082
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Speaker 1: guarded center, you're not really gonna use those same resources

1083
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: to have decent backup. So there might be a big

1084
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: drop off from here to here, as other teams might

1085
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: be here to hear perhaps all the My argument to

1086
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: that would be is, I think Chad's Green is officially

1087
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: a backup now, and he was a top one hundred pick. Yeah,

1088
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: I think there's enough on hand to get through this

1089
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: year with not without having to do anything drastic. But

1090
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: I think offensive line, as weird as it sounds, for

1091
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: this team should be a priority in next year's draft

1092
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, all right, but we'll see. Like what

1093
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Speaker 1: you say, Well, it's about to be the end of

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Speaker 1: this hour. Yeah, I got away from I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: I'm already tired of talking here. So it's been a

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Speaker 1: long one amber day, Brian, thanks for filling in with games.

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Speaker 1: deal and anything you can do would be really appreciated.

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Speaker 1: It's it's been a trying week and it's only halfway over,

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Speaker 1: so keep that in mind. Please stay with us here.

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