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Speaker 1: keep doing what we've been doing. Um, we know how

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Speaker 1: close we are, but that's not really Uh, that's not

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Speaker 1: And um, you know it's gonna moments like this will

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Speaker 1: make it a lot sweeter when we do turn that

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Speaker 1: game against the Broncos in London. Welcome to Jack Wars

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Speaker 1: Drive Time on a Wednesday. A lot to talk about

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Speaker 1: the trade deadline is This is our first show back

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Speaker 1: Ashland here with you. A lot to discuss. A lot

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Speaker 1: big thing. One is Calvin Ridley, the Jaguars trading for

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Speaker 1: and there's certainly a twist here. He will remain suspended

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense. While he did some good things against

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Speaker 1: For Doug Peterson, you know, these are obviously these last

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Speaker 1: Time on a Wednesday, breaking down this trade deadline in

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Speaker 1: different and better than I expected. Even if he wasn't

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Speaker 1: fast and he's really fast, he hasn't shown that breakaway

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Speaker 1: thing that Fred had, but you know, maybe ten guys

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Speaker 1: in history have so Uh. It's his vision that's really impressive,

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Speaker 1: and it's his toughness. It's really impressive. And he's a

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Speaker 1: much more complete back than I ever imagined him being.

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Speaker 1: The play that he made on the forty yard or

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Speaker 1: where he got to the sideline and his momentum was

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Speaker 1: taking him out of bounds and he planted that foot

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Speaker 1: and then shot up the sideline. That's beyond special. Right. Um,

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Speaker 1: he would take where it looked like he was going

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Speaker 1: to get stopped for no gain and squirted through and

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Speaker 1: find six yards on first down. Um, and I think

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Speaker 1: it bears yes. I think he is that caliber of athlete. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's still too earthy to tell, but it's worth remembering

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Speaker 1: that he hadn't. Liz Frank, I saw Corey Grant here

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Speaker 1: during Legends week, Right, Corey ever played again when he

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Speaker 1: had that, and Corey was equal in terms of speed

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Speaker 1: and explosiveness. Um, that he's doing what he's doing, he's

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Speaker 1: a tremendous football. He is that guy that defensive coordinators go,

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Speaker 1: how do we stop him? How do we figure him out?

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Speaker 1: We've been waiting for that to show up. We need

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Speaker 1: more of those. But John, I think the answer is

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Speaker 1: his talent level is extreme. If he stays healthy, he's

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Speaker 1: got the ability. And if the Jaguars, if Calvin Ridley

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Speaker 1: is what we hope he is, right, I'll just be

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Speaker 1: a lot easier. That only helps him. Well, all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you're starting to stockpile some guys you may play.

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Speaker 1: I think Kirk will get better with with the Ridley edition.

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Speaker 1: When you have et M. That's three guys and Devin

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Speaker 1: Lloyd's gonna be that guy on defense. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: compared to what we were a year ago, you got

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Speaker 1: three or four guys. You can start saying, yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: legitimate NFL playmakers. So it's all got to work out.

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Speaker 1: But that's the feeling I got off the Ridley trade,

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Speaker 1: accompanied by et and improving over the last month. Now

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Speaker 1: and you get some guys, me more guys. That's a

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Speaker 1: keenly equation. Alright, draft compensation this or that's Calvin Ridley

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Speaker 1: or a second round draft pick. There are a lot

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Speaker 1: of wrinkles to this trade. A fifth round pick if

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Speaker 1: he makes the team, it's a fourth round pick. If

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Speaker 1: he hits a big play milestone in quotations, we don't

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Speaker 1: know what that is. It's a third round pick. If

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Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley is signed to a long term extension with

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, it is a second round pick going to

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Speaker 1: the Falcons. I look at this as Calvin Ridley would

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Speaker 1: earn that long term extension. It's not like the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: are blindly giving away a second round pick. That would

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Speaker 1: all be on Ridley if this turned into a second

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Speaker 1: round pick. But let's say, best example, big picture that

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Speaker 1: does happen. Would you rather have Calvin Ridley? I would

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Speaker 1: you rather have that second round pick? Back? Let me

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Speaker 1: take a quick story in Dallas in two thousand eighteen, Um,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars were picking twenty nine, and when when they turned

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Speaker 1: the corner to twenty, I got a list of three

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Speaker 1: names if the Jaguars were looking for. So prepare to

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Speaker 1: interview one of these three guys, So get ready. And

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Speaker 1: they were Hayden Hurst, the tight end, the Bulls Kid,

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Speaker 1: the linebacker from Alabama Rashaan Evans, and wide receiver Calvin Ridley.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Jaguars were dialed in and really was

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Speaker 1: at the top of the list. He was the guy

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Speaker 1: they wanted the most, and of course the Falcons swooped

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Speaker 1: in and grabbed him. I think, um, you'd much rather

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Speaker 1: have this than a second round pick, because this is

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Speaker 1: a guy who comes in as an impact player. You

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Speaker 1: don't he did as a rookie, by the way, you know,

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of the first round. So Yeah, you'd

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Speaker 1: rather have this guy who knows the game, who can

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Speaker 1: quickly step onto the field and be a contributor than

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Speaker 1: a second round pick that might take you longer than that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not close. Uh obviously rather have Ridley, I think

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Speaker 1: and had the key here to this trade. As Brian

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Speaker 1: alluded to a second ago. Um, if you sign a

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Speaker 1: free agent, they're probably older. If you draft a guy,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be younger. He's gonna be twenty three, uh two,

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Speaker 1: and historically can take some time. I think the edge

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Speaker 1: to really is if if he comes back and he's

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Speaker 1: the player he was in you have a turn key

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Speaker 1: guy who's ready to go. He's proving to do it

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, and he he doesn't have to have

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Speaker 1: as much adjusting to figuring out what this league's about. Uh. Again,

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Speaker 1: he's got some rest to shake off. But this feels

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Speaker 1: as as long as the kid has his life in order,

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Speaker 1: which I hope he does for his sake, then this

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Speaker 1: feels like almost a no brainer. Yeah, and it's important

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Speaker 1: to note you're talking about your quarterbacks third year. It's

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Speaker 1: a pivotal year in the development of a quarterback. So

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Speaker 1: getting this guy and again we're all working at the

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Speaker 1: caveat that he will be reinstated. He can reapply or

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Speaker 1: apply for reinstatement mid February UM. But to have a

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Speaker 1: threat like this with some experience, so not just a

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Speaker 1: rookie that you're hoping can pick it up quickly is

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Speaker 1: really important for Trevor Lawrence. Absolutely and that is the

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Speaker 1: start that presented by Price Stock. Commonly come back on

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Tom on a Wednesday morning. Busy week ahead

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Speaker 1: is the Jaguars get ready for a home game against

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Speaker 1: the Raiders this Sunday. But one more points on the

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Speaker 1: trade deadline coming to a close. Yesterday afternoon at four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: The biggest name by far in Jacksonville was Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: and we kept hearing about all these calls that were

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Speaker 1: being made and the questions of would the Jaguars with

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Speaker 1: an up capital trade Josh Allen he is still here,

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Speaker 1: He's still with the Jaguars, and it seems to be

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Speaker 1: he is a cornerstone player that they did not get

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Speaker 1: enough for. Yeah, you looked at it. Teams that were

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Speaker 1: going up for Brian Burns in uh in Carolina and

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Speaker 1: reportedly the Rams were throwing future first round picks at

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Speaker 1: them and and they said, No, you don't find pass rushers,

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Speaker 1: especially guys with the talent of Josh Allen just hanging around.

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Speaker 1: I would say he's a cornerstone. Even though he told

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Speaker 1: me last week in the locker room he knows he

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Speaker 1: hasn't played to the level that he needs to play. Too,

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Speaker 1: I was convinced last week that he was gonna have

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Speaker 1: a breakthrough game against the Broncos. Um. I still think

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Speaker 1: you're going to see it from him because he's the

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Speaker 1: kind of guy on the field, in the classroom, you know,

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Speaker 1: off the field, that you want to build your team around.

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Speaker 1: And I still think he's a guy that you can

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Speaker 1: do that with. Yeah, I agree. I mean Josh and

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Speaker 1: he would tell you this. The team's in a tough

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Speaker 1: spot with him because he hasn't had those sack numbers.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, this is what I keep going

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Speaker 1: back to it, Josh. Um. If I look out there

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Speaker 1: on a Sunday when I'm covering a game and I

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Speaker 1: look up and I see a trainer around a player.

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Speaker 1: He's the last guy on defense that I want to

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Speaker 1: see down in the field. I don't want to. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to keep playing without him. You're totally right.

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Speaker 1: And while he hasn't had those huge stack numbers, I

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Speaker 1: just feel like they would miss him incredibly if he's

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Speaker 1: not here. So that's their dilemma. Hadn't quite been what

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Speaker 1: hoped in terms of numbers, But boy, is he important

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Speaker 1: to what they do. And I don't know that you

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Speaker 1: want to. I don't know that you want to be

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Speaker 1: be going and looking for another one to know, because

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Speaker 1: you don't find guys with his size, speed, and and

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Speaker 1: and intangibles. A quick story. I go out on the

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Speaker 1: field on Wednesdays, right before practice ends to get a

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Speaker 1: coach right for pregame radio. And as they break up

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Speaker 1: and guys start coming off the field, Josh is the

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Speaker 1: last guy to leave the field. He's hooking himself up

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Speaker 1: to this machine that caused his resistance. When he's running sprints,

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Speaker 1: he's pushing his teammates, he's working the bag. Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: works so hard, kind of like we're talking about Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence having that breakthrough moment. Maybe it's on the same Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's this Sunday that that Josh Allen has the

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Speaker 1: same thing that comes through with a buffalo like performance

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Speaker 1: last year, which nobody should have forgotten about how special

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Speaker 1: he was that day. Um, there's a breakthrough moment coming

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Speaker 1: for him. I think yes, and he is still here.

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Speaker 1: It was, you know, thinking about and you saw the reports,

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Speaker 1: and he saw what teams were calling for. Just I

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Speaker 1: was thinking of of a locker room without Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: out Josh Allen. It was just weird to think about.

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Speaker 1: It was a weird feeling to think about that. And

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Speaker 1: you don't get that with every single player. All right,

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Speaker 1: And that is Jaguars Drive Time on a Wednesday morning.

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Speaker 1: Much more to come on Jaguars dot Com all week long.

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Speaker 1: We will be back with you right here Jaguars Drive

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Speaker 1: Time tomorrow morning. We'll see it then,