1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson And this. 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: Is Thursday of super Bowl Week. Thursday of super Bowl Week. 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: We haven't talked a lot of super Bowl yet this week. 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 3: I feel like no one is like there's like no 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: buzz on this game. Like we see these teams all 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 3: the time. Nothing's changed. I mean, I think there's some 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: of that, but I have not been Maybe I just 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 3: haven't been doubt in. But you know, even like questions 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: on Twitter, very fewer super Bowl related. 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, And with super Bowl Week comes a lot of 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: people talking on media ro. 16 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: Right, right, there's a lot of that kind of right. 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: And that leads me into Jay Glazer, who works for 18 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: I believe Fox Sports. Thanks Fox, Yeah, is their NFL insider. 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: He's also also happens to be friends with Mike Tomlin. 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: They've known each other for years. He goes back to 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: his days in Tampa and he said today he was 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: he was asked about the Steelers quarterback situation on a 23 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: show that he was on and said that he doesn't 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: think he said, after texting with Mike toml and he 25 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: doesn't think Russell Wilson's going to be back. And he 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: doesn't know about He said, he doesn't know what the 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: Steelers are going to do at quarterbacks. He but he 28 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: kind of poo pooped both quarterbacks. 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: Really, okay, Matthew Stafford and. 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: Then said and said in the in that meet and 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: he said, you know, I was texting with Mike Tomlin 32 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: and he said, I don't know that they know what 33 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: they're going to do at quarterba. 34 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: Believe you know. I'm sure they just got back from 35 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: the Yeah. 36 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, just I mean that's and so everybody's taking the 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: well they're lost here. No, I think they're looking at 38 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: their options right now. 39 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe there's options we don't know about, right So 40 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: all right, I mean I'll go down the rabbit hole. 41 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: I'll bite if it's not Fields or Wilson. I can't 42 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: believe they'll think it's a rookie. No. I mean that 43 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: doesn't mean they won't draft one. But there's no way 44 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: there's a day starter is a rookie. No, I can't 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: buy that one. 46 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: The only way, the only way is if it's a 47 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson like situation in Seattle in twenty twelve, you 48 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: signed somebody, you drafted one in the third round. 49 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he out performed. That'd be wonderful. That would 50 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: be different. That's not what we're saying, right, that can't 51 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: be the plan this year. 52 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: It's gonna be we're gonna draft one in a third 53 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: round and by god, he's our starter. 54 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well to it every year year for that, we'll 55 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: do in the fourth round. Right, Is that easy? Darnold's 56 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: the only UFA I think that makes any sense. 57 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: Unless you're gonna make a trade for some. 58 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: Say I think there's two trade candidates. Stafford's number one. Yeah, 59 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 3: and I could see the Rams being interested in that. 60 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I think he wants somewhat of an extension. 61 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: I think they're such a youth movement everywhere else. CoP's 62 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 3: gonna go another sneaky name. We haven't brought up, but 63 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: we have talked. We did yesterday Seattle's cap situations, and say, 64 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: Geno Smith was I think you could get Geno Smith 65 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: probably cheaper than Stafford. And I'm sure many people are like, eh, 66 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 3: I think he's one of the most underrated quarterbacks in 67 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: the league. 68 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: Is that a better option, though, I think if based 69 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: on what they want to do offensively, if I were 70 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: to rank the quarterbacks we just discussed, of how good 71 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: they are this second, Stafford's clearly won, right, I think 72 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: Geno's two. I don't know where I put Donald, but 73 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: I think Geno's two, and then the Steelers you can 74 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: go where you want. Donald's a tough one, but I 75 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: think Gino makes you a better team at that most 76 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: important position than you had last year. But what's the cost? 77 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: That's what I don't know. I mean, that's obviously the 78 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: second part of the question. 79 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not giving them to you for Yeah, 80 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: I'm not interested in giving up a first round pick 81 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: for Gino Smith. Really a second round pick for Gino Smith. 82 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: I said, I'm going to two for Stafford. I'm not 83 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: give up first for him either. At his age. Yeah, 84 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: I don't think you have to. 85 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: And Gino Smith's not that much younger than him. He's 86 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: thirty four. 87 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: He's also from Wilson's draft class, right, Yeah, three, I 88 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: think A two's pretty rich. Two is way too. 89 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's thirty four, he'll be thirty five October tenth. Okay, 90 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: so you're not getting that much younger. Noos, you're not 91 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: getting younger for sure. Stafford or Gino is a whin 92 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: now groom a guy move. 93 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: Which I get. 94 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: I'd be more into that with Stafford than I would 95 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: Gino Smith. 96 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: One because Stafford's awesome. 97 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: He's a better player. 98 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: He's a better player. Yeah, how good is Stafford? I'm 99 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: sure people are thinking, like, well, does that get you 100 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: to Lamar level and Allen level? No? But it if 101 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: I were to rank all the quarterbacks on the planet 102 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: right now, I still think there's four superheroes including Burrow, Lamar, Burrow, Mahomes, 103 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: and Allen, and they're not going anywhere. You're not getting 104 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 3: those guys. But if you ask me who the fifth 105 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: best quarterback in the league is right now, I would 106 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 3: probably say Stafford. Jane Daniels in the conversation this isn't 107 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 3: you know who you'd rather have? Right? 108 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's long term? You much rather have Jayden did Yeah? 109 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 3: Long term? I think the answer is Herbert stroud Er Daniels. Yeah. 110 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: The idea is who gives you a chance to win 111 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. 112 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: I think Stafford's my answer of who's right outside those 113 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: top four. He's going to the Hall of Fame. He 114 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: has not declined. He's had injuries over a season, but 115 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 3: you can still move. He's a great player. 116 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but for how the question then becomes how much 117 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: longer is he a right player? And he's already contemplating retirement. 118 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: I guess he has at some point. I'm sure most 119 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 3: people his agent. 120 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, once you know, once you're he's thirty six. He 121 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: just turned thirty six in February, or he will turn 122 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: thirty actually tomorrow. Oh really, thirty seven, he turns tomorrow, 123 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: I should say. I mean, I think even with Gino 124 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 2: you would have to have the conversation, even with russ 125 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: I guess at his age, how much longer do you 126 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: plan on going? And I'm not sure if I'm the player, 127 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: do I know that answer? 128 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: You know? 129 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: Like, well, now, Russell Wilson has said that he wants 130 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: to play five more. 131 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: Years, okay at least, which is ambitious obviously, Yeah, you know, but. 132 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: It also gives you an idea of where he feels 133 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 2: his body is at. 134 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I could see it. 135 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: He hasn't taken the beating that some of these other 136 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: guys have in terms of the right missing games and 137 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: those right right, right, right. 138 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 3: And he's still that wouldn't blow me away five years 139 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: from now. He's still in the league. Yeah, but if 140 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: you were to trade for Stafford or Geno, but especially 141 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: stafford second round pick, maybe you use him late pick 142 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: this year on a guy and then next year you 143 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 3: might take one in the first round. 144 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 145 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: I can understand it, you know. I mean, all of 146 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 3: a sudden, you're not flush with resources for the draft 147 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: for other things to try to win. Now that's my rusher, right, 148 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 3: like you, that's a corner. 149 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: Honestly, I think when you look at the last two drafts, 150 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: and maybe this is how they might look at it, Like, look, 151 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: last two drafts, we feel like we've hit on pretty well. 152 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: No question. It's so nice jumping off. Yeah. 153 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: So if you've restocked the roster in the last two 154 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: drafts with a lot of young talent. 155 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: We expect those guys to get better. Yeah, and three 156 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: your rookies didn't even play for you, right, you know, 157 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: I would under understand it. I mean, all the people 158 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: sitting around shows never do anything. They're not trying to, 159 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: they're just happy. That's that's a big time moves. It's 160 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: a big move. But says he forever. Tokay, wats not 161 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: gonna be forever. 162 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: At the same time, you know the people who are 163 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: out there saying that we need to get younger at 164 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: that position, you have to go with the young guy 165 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: because you're trying again. It goes back to what I've 166 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: talked about struggle. 167 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: The league. 168 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: Two years in the NFL. Two seasons in the NFL 169 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: is an eternity. Most careers are over in two years. 170 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: I've said this before, but in the dog days when 171 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: nothing's happening in the season, when I worked at ESPN, 172 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: they would say, give us a list of who the 173 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: five best running backs are going to be five years 174 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: from now. I'm like, this is so dumb. One of 175 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: them is in high school, say one of them is, 176 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: It wasn't Hills and the other ones. Yeah, you're right, 177 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: Like the chances of Barkley and Henry even three years 178 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: ago to still be this high is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. 179 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 2: But anyway, I'm watching a show today. I'm watching I 180 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: can't remember what show it was, and they're talking about, 181 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: you know, is is Saquon Barkley a Hall of Famer? 182 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, not right now. 183 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 3: That position is hard. That position is really hard. 184 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: I mean he's got seven thousand career rushing rights. 185 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: Like you compare his resume to Henry's, and they're not closed, 186 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: you know, in terms of lifetime achievements, and. 187 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: They're saying, well, would be a Terrelle Davis type situation. 188 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: I mean again, if you look at Saquan's career, it's 189 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 2: like two really good years and then in between. 190 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: Not so much in a lot of twelve game seasons 191 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: and stuff like that too. I mean, obviously this year 192 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: agoes running back position is tough a really long way, 193 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: and the parameters are running back unlike receiver quarterback I think, 194 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: are dropping You're never gonna catch them. It. I mean, 195 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: that's well. 196 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: Henry keeps going like he is. 197 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: He might know. I mean, he doesn't look he's slowing down, 198 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: but you know, ten thousand rushing yards a lot harder 199 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: to get to than it used to be, you know. 200 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 3: I mean there's just split backfields, et cetera. He'd have 201 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: to do more. Barkley if he wins the Super Bowl 202 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: on Sunday and says I'm never playing again, he's not 203 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 3: going to Hall of Fame. Yeah, I mean, he needs 204 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: two more years like this or Pro Bowl type, All 205 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 3: Pro type. 206 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: Rights, I would think, and just having a two thousand 207 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 2: yard season doesn't cut it because. 208 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: It's a nice start. It's a nice start. But there 209 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: Chris Johnson's not in the Hall of Fame. He's never 210 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: getting in. I didn't think Davis belonged. 211 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, to be honest, I mean he had he had 212 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: two monster seasons and they also won the Super Bowl 213 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: in those seasons. 214 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: I mean him and Henry are like regarded as the 215 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: best postseason running backs ever. Franco would argue that, I'm 216 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: sure there's some other ones too, but just numbers wise 217 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 3: there at the top. But so that carries weight, no doubt. 218 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: But I didn't think he was the best back in 219 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: the league for those short stretch either. He was close, 220 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: you know, but something like Stafford or Gino could be 221 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 3: in the cards. Yeah, is there a name we don't know? 222 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: I mean I can't imagine it. 223 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: Maybe we're maybe you just need to look at the 224 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: NFC West. 225 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 3: As a whole. Who could be had? Who could be had? 226 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: Could the forty nine ers move on from brouck Purty potentially, Yeah. 227 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: I mean they don't want to pay him. Maybe I 228 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 3: think they're going to pay I think they're going to 229 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: pay him. The question is do they want to pay 230 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: him forty plus million dollars a year? Right? 231 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: I don't know what about Kyler Murray? Are they sold 232 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: on him in Arizona's a new coaching staff. They didn't 233 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: draft him a new GM, they didn't draft him. I mean, 234 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: nobody's gonna be doing jumping jacks. But you could get 235 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: their car. Yeah, he might be better than what you 236 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: played with last year. He's a little frustrating, and he's 237 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: not I don't think he knocking on the door. 238 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: Of a superhero. He is what he is at this point. 239 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 3: He's not for me. I don't love it either, and 240 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: he could take more risks and you know, be more good. 241 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: I'm not into going the Kirk Cousins route. 242 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: That was gonna throw that out there too. I mean, 243 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: did they love the financial wherewithal of If they brought 244 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: him in with somebody else, I'd understand because he's a 245 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: million dollars. Yeah, you know what I mean. 246 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: If you if you liked that idea right quarterback room 247 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: and you do that and oh, by the way, then 248 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: add I don't know, pick somebody. 249 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: Even still trade for Gino or somebody. 250 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: Maybe you do something like you did last year and 251 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 2: you give up a six round pick for It's hard 252 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: to come up with names, you know, even Well, here's one. 253 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,599 Speaker 3: I don't think. It's Joe Milton, by the way, And 254 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: that's what I was gonna say. Everybody keeps bringing up 255 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: Joe Milton, Joe Milton, Joe Milton, Joe Milton. He played 256 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 3: one game last year against Buffalo's backups in a good preseason. 257 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: You had a good traits. I get it. 258 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: I watched him at the Senior Bowl and I was 259 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: not impressed. He could throw the ball mile a mile. 260 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: He's Uncle Rico. 261 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, his ceiling is through the roof. If I understand, 262 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: if I asked him to take the ball and throw 263 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: it from me to you, he's nuclear loose. He's throwing 264 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: it through the through the window, or he might break 265 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 3: my face. You know, you're throwing at eight thousand miles 266 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: an hour. 267 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: I'd love to come on beat you're thinking about it now. 268 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: I'd love to see a team develop them. And hey, 269 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 3: I'm rooting for him just like anyone else, and modern 270 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: day quarterbacks with his traits are appealing. I can't imagine 271 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 3: that being anyone's plan. That no, we're gonna give you 272 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: it would have to be a situation like that. 273 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: It wouldn't be a situation where you brought again a 274 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: cousin's in it one, you got two million dollars and 275 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: then you added that guy for a late round. 276 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: Pick or with fields or you know, right or. 277 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but if his field's coming back here, if you're 278 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: going to do that, probably not what there're options he's. 279 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 3: Gonna have though that are better. I mean if his 280 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: if he looks at like all you do is beat 281 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: out Joe Milton, Well. 282 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: I'm talking about I'm talking about going to the cousin. 283 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: Would not think because if you're signing cousins, you're doing 284 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 3: that to make him the starter. You would think, yeah, 285 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: or it's just such a good deal you can't turn 286 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 3: it down. I don't know. I mean, staffords want to 287 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 3: give you the best chance to win, sup. 288 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: But I think this is why if Tomlin was noncommittal 289 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: with Glazer, I think this is why, because they haven't 290 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: seen what options are out there yet. Now you're going 291 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: to have to figure out what options are out there. 292 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, by March twelfth, or really March tenth, that's 293 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: when the negotiating. But then again you might not because 294 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: these guys, you might when you you heard from Russell. 295 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: Last time we heard from Russell Wilson about this stuff 296 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: he talked about he was on the McAfee show and 297 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: he said, look, I've we had some conversations, you know, 298 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: regarding whether you know they want me back or that 299 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. You keep that door open. 300 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he said the words like I'm focused 301 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: on staying with the Steelers. Yeah, but that doesn't mean 302 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: that that's he's his only He'd be crazy to make 303 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: that his only. Wrong. 304 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: He might go out into free agency after. 305 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: A Pete Carroll reached out to him. 306 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: After a couple of days and goes, okay, I you 307 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 2: know I don't like and maybe the Steelers by the 308 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: time looking and going all right, there's nothing out there 309 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: that we like either, let's bring you back? 310 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 3: Are there? 311 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: And you just don't know. I don't know that they know. 312 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: That's the whole thing. 313 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 3: These are really hard discussions for them, us everybody. I'm 314 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: sure this isn't the best name, but is there any 315 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 3: richardson early Pick Revival Darnald types that you would trade for? 316 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: You know, like Bryce Young isn't going anywhere anywhere anymore, 317 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: you know, like that's off the table. There's not that many. 318 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: Nobody that excites me, and no one's like, boy, if 319 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: you could get that guy. Oh now you're talking, you 320 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: know to me, if you want to will you know? 321 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: I mean, unless it's Trey Lance, you get him for 322 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: nothing though, That's what I'm saying, right. 323 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: I would love for him to be in Latrobe no 324 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: matter what you do. But he can't be in your 325 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: top two. 326 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: No, he's not going to be your guy. You're not 327 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: gonna You're not gonna sign him here. This is our 328 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: guy right right, No way, I'm not. I'm sure i'd 329 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: be comfortable with is A two. Yeah about love to 330 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: Seaman Camp? Yeah, where Malik willis or you know, I 331 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: don't know. 332 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean I'm not going down the 333 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: Winston route or Mariota or those guys. I think the 334 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: ship has sailed. The former early picks that are ten 335 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 3: years in. 336 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine Arthur Smith would be it on, like, 337 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: oh yeah, let's let's do Winston again or. 338 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: Marioda. 339 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done it twice, now let's do it again. 340 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. That was a hard watch. It's hard to I mean, 341 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: could Dak Prescott be on the move. That's what we 342 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: don't know. These are all the name that underneath there's something. 343 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: It might be something. There more to this than just 344 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: because I again, I think you you wait this out 345 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: as long as you can before you make any kind 346 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: of decisions, because by March, by March twelfth, every team 347 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: in the league has to be kept compliant, right right, right. 348 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: Let's say you are some deadlines. Let's say you are 349 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys. 350 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: Let's say we want to go crazy here, We're gonna 351 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: go We're gonna go trade for Miles Garrett. 352 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, or we went shre Door Sanders so bad or 353 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: something like that, you know, right, yeah, yeah, I mean 354 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: there are some big dominoes to fall in the league. 355 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: There's another name, but I think that needs to be discussed. 356 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, that's the noise I make too. But 357 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: if Aaron Rodgers and DeVante free or DeVante Adams are 358 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: free agents, don't cost you any draft picks. I could 359 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: understand understand any team doing it. If Tennessee did it, 360 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: I'd say I get it. I mean, that's a it's 361 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: a big gew. Media folks that have a blast, it's 362 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: a big jump. It's a big jump. It's a big jump. 363 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: I didn't like what I saw of him last year. 364 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: Now the last couple of games were much better. Yeah, 365 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: and I'm not trying to defend them, but they were. 366 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: There's a lot that comes. 367 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: With it, but is part is the part of the 368 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: reason for that, because he didn't work out with the 369 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: team a whole lot in the offseason. Right, Like, if 370 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: I were going to go that road and be like Aaron, 371 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: you have to you can't take a You can't when 372 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: we're having mini camp, you can't. You can't take a 373 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: vacation to Egypt. 374 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: You need to be here working with us. Yeah, would 375 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 3: prefer less shrooms and dark room too, you know, more 376 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: more throwy, more lifted, and less trumy. You know that 377 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: being said, the Jets is like the worst environment and 378 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: get it, you know, like this is a totally different 379 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 3: world hanging out with Cam Hayward as opposed to. 380 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: If they came they came as a package, If he 381 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 2: and Vante Adams came as a package. 382 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: I get it. I'm interested, and I get it, I'm interested, 383 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: and the Stafford and Cup comes a package, I'd be interested, 384 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: right right. I mean it kills a lot of birds. 385 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 3: You at least would have a lot of clarity, and 386 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 3: it sets you up the draft one next year, you know, under. 387 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: The still draft one late this year. You take it, 388 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: You take a chance if he becomes your long term backup, great. 389 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm I'm all for drafting one this year, 390 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: no matter what. I mean, they'd have to be the 391 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: right guy at the right time. If you left the 392 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 3: draft without one, I fine, you know what, I what 393 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 3: I don't know? But when when do you get a man? 394 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: What's what's the cost involved with an Aaron Rodgers? 395 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 3: That's the thing. Do we know he's going to get caught? 396 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 3: Adams is going to get cut? Yeah, Adams is going 397 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: to get cut. I mean I think he's under contract. 398 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: He's under contract? Yeah, So is it? Is it again? 399 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: Is it a Wilson type situation? 400 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: Do you get Aaron? I don't know. 401 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 2: Do you get Aaron Rodgers for one point two million dollars? 402 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: Now, I'm I would think the Jets are going to rebuild. Yeah, 403 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 3: well his base No, by the way, Garrett Wilson sounds 404 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: like he could be had. 405 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: His base salary is two point five million, so they 406 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: are still on the hook with him for some cash. 407 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 3: Okay, so the Packers paying him heavy. 408 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: He counts twenty three point five million against their cap 409 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 2: next year Jets Rodgers the Jets cap. Okay, they have 410 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: a fourteen million dollar option on. 411 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 3: Him that maybe isn't getting picked up. 412 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: That probably isn't going to get picked up when that becomes. 413 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: And thus he becomes a free agent. 414 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: The twenty twenty five option bonus of thirty five million 415 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: dollar dollars must be exercised before the twenty twenty five 416 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 2: regular season. 417 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: I would think they get young, like I think like 418 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: the days of Morgan Moses and Tyron Smith and all 419 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 3: those are gone. Yeah, I don't know what they do 420 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 3: a quarterback, but it could be eat your vegetables gear. 421 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 422 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: Again, I don't know if they end up cutting him, 423 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: what that means then if you pick him up, how 424 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: much money you want? 425 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 3: Thirty? Does he want? Forty? Does he word? Does he pay? 426 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: Or are they? Is he getting getting paid? Away a 427 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 3: lot more people when. 428 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: You owe that thirty five million dollar roster bonus, and. 429 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 3: You know that would be a bit much. Yeah, right, 430 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 3: he was pretty good at one point at. 431 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: One point, but he's also going to be thirty forty 432 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: two years old. 433 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, and from what I understand that he runs 434 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 3: his offense. That's the problem. Not Arthur spis offense, right, 435 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: which is they're done similar So you're basically blowing up 436 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 3: your offense again. So we've just talked ourselves into I've 437 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: never been in on the Rogers move, but I think 438 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: his name at least needs to be thrown in the 439 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: ring and conversation. Yeah, if it's not Wilson or Field, 440 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 3: I guess it's the conversation, right, it's got to be somebody. 441 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: Somebody will line up and preak quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steels. 442 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: That's why again I think, and we'll know that before 443 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: the draft. We'll know that early, in earlier than you 444 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: think I would. I'd be willing to bet we'll know 445 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: that by March twelfth. 446 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, in the next month or so. 447 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, if we don't know March tenth, we'll know it 448 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: by March twelfth. 449 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 3: You know, the early the early negotiating. We may have 450 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 3: a real good feel by the Combine. Yeah, yeah, of 451 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 3: what the plans are, I would think. So I remember 452 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: Combined a couple of years ago. It's like Philip Rivers 453 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 3: is going to Indianapolis. The whole world knows. It. 454 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: May here's some we may talk to some little birdies 455 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, yeah, have an idea of what they're 456 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 2: going to do here. But uh, maybe it's interesting. 457 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: Maybe there's a quarterback that's two or somebody. I'm just 458 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: throwing a name that the team wouldn't mind moving on from. 459 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't want to pay him, Yeah, 460 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: I don't want to pay and they don't think he's 461 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: worth a back or new offense, new coach, they don't 462 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 3: want him, you know, I don't know. 463 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen more of that kind of movement in 464 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: recent years, and so we. 465 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm making stuff up, but the new coach 466 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 3: in Jacksonville doesn't want Laurence, you know whatever. 467 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 2: Maybe it's McCarthy. Maybe they love McCarthy in last year's draft. 468 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 3: And Darnold's going back. Yeah that would add up to. Yeah, 469 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: that would add up to and it'd be good for the Vikings. 470 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: They have no second day picks, right yeah. 471 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyways, let's get through a break. He is the 472 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the drive. 473 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 2: You're on the Steelers audio network. 474 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: Matt. 475 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: Now, I'll be back with more right after this. 476 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 477 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the 478 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 479 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: And we are back. 480 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 2: I am Dale Lollly, he is the Matt Williamson and 481 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: Matt the NFL Honors is too. Yeah, right, So we 482 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: will find out who not all, not only all the 483 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: award stuff. We've talked a lot about the awards stuff. 484 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we. 485 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: Haven't run through the list of Hall of Fame finalists. 486 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, we should talk about that. Is that the night 487 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: or is at the week tonight as well? Oh? 488 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: Okay, that will be all that stuff comes out. So 489 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 2: this year's group Eric Allen, he is a final fifteen 490 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: Eric Allen, Jared Allen, Willie Anderson, Jehari Evans, Antonio Gates, 491 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: Tory Holt, Luke Keickley, Eli Manning, Steve Smith, Senior, Terrell Suggs, 492 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 2: Fred Taylor, Adam Vinettieri, Reggie Wayne, Darren Woodson, Marshall yonda. 493 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: Five of those guys are going to be revealed as 494 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: Hall of Famers night. So five of those fifteen are 495 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: going well know this tomorrow or tonight right up to five. 496 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: I should say it doesn't have to be five, but 497 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: it always is. It almost always is. Although they've changed 498 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: the way the voting goes. They don't red it. They 499 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: don't do it this week. They do it by zoom, 500 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 2: and they did it about three weeks ago. 501 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 3: So this is more of a since COVID thing. Yeah, okay, 502 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: Well start off with the elephant in the room. I 503 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: think Eli and Vnitarry are going to get inducted, and 504 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: I would vote for neither. And I had understand Eli 505 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: much more than Vinetari. I thought that to death, and 506 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 3: I think they're going to get it. Here's the thing 507 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 3: with Eli manning. 508 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: His career record, and I understand good quarterback record, isn't 509 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: everything right, you know, because it's a team game. One's 510 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: seventeen and one seventeen. Yes, he won two Super Bowls. 511 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: He also led the league in interceptions three different times. 512 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: And we're not talking about just a few inners. We're 513 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: not talking about one of these years where somebody leads 514 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: the league with fourteen interceptions, because he had several seasons 515 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: where he. 516 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: Had fourteen fourteen or more like won a game. Type 517 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 3: of guy. He led with twenty twenty five and twenty seven. 518 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 3: He threw twenty seven interceptions when he was thirty two 519 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 3: years old, when you should know better than to throw 520 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 3: thirty twenty seven. And he threw eighteen touchdowns and twenty 521 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: seven interceptions at age thirty two. At thirty two too, 522 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 3: This isn't thirty eight. Hang on for this prime your career. 523 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: Years before that when he was twenty nine, three years 524 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 2: before that, when he was twenty nine, he led the 525 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: league with twenty five interceptions. These are the prime years 526 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 2: of his career and he's throwing twenty five and twenty 527 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 2: seven interceptions. 528 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 3: I mean lifetime five hundred winning percentage too, two hundred 529 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 3: and forty four career interceptions. Like, I think he's the 530 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 3: Hall of Good he averages. I really think like Matt 531 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 3: Ryan's a better player than. 532 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: He averaged over an interception per game in his career. 533 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 2: It's awful in this era, Yeah, it's awful. As I mentioned, 534 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: there were there, and he's. 535 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 3: Not farve in terms of the big plays. 536 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: Five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, eleven of his 537 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: sixteen years he threw fourteen or more. 538 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 3: Interceptions. Wow, I mean that's like more, that's regularly. 539 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: That's mid level quarterback now I. 540 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 3: Also remember being a fumbler in the pocket, not real sturdy. 541 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: I don't know how many of those numbers are, but 542 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 3: I could be wrong about that. But I didn't think 543 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 3: he was real sturdy in the pocket. And he's not 544 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 3: a runner right in addition to that, I mean, yes, 545 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: he's had big plays over his career, but you better 546 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,479 Speaker 3: be farvean in terms of going to the Hall of 547 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 3: Fame with that kind of turnover. 548 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 2: Now, he's a four time Pro Bowl player, which never 549 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: was all pro. 550 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 3: That's where I was gonna go with it. I didn't 551 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 3: realize the interceptions were that bad. I knew they were bad, 552 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 3: but never in his career would I have said he's 553 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: a top three quarterback. I don't think i'd ever says 554 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 3: top five quarterback. Yeah, I mean, I think the quarterbacks 555 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 3: of that era, I mean even like I mean, certainly 556 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 3: Manning Brady, ben Breeze, you know, I mean, I think 557 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: he's the third best of that draft class. I think 558 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: Rivers had a better career than him. 559 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: Now, his supporters will say, yeah, but he won two 560 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 2: Super Bowls. 561 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: Yes, and he did, and he did, and he played 562 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: great in the playoffs. 563 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: You know who else did and had a five hundred 564 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: career record. 565 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: Plunk it, Jim Plunkett. Yeah, yeah, two super Bowls. I 566 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: think he's the only quarterback that's been eligible that didn't 567 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 3: get won two Super Bowls who hasn't gotten in seventy 568 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 3: two and seventy two in his career. Okay, and he 569 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 3: played for some atrocious teams before he got to the Raiders. 570 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 3: His record with the Raiders the draft with New England 571 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 3: on a horrible team. 572 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: Right, His record with the Raiders was thirty eight and nineteen. 573 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think he belongs either. 574 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 2: I don't think so either, but I'm just saying, at 575 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: least with him, I would He only led to the 576 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: league in interceptions once once. 577 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: Not all the time, not all the time. And oh, 578 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 3: by the way, he played in the seventies when it 579 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: was much easier to intercept the balls. Yeah, because interception numbers. 580 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 2: Or and he was throwing the ball down the field. 581 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. 582 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 2: You know, his career yards per yards per catch thirteen 583 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: point three. His last year in the league, he led 584 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: the league in yards per completion at fourteen point nine yards. 585 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 3: At least field. Again, I don't remember. Of course, Eli 586 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: had high moments. He was a good player. We're not 587 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 3: saying things, you know, no, not at all. But I 588 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 3: don't remember jaw dropping farv like highs to go with 589 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 3: the lows, you know, and plus nothing with legs, which 590 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 3: isn't as big a deal. Then I know that doesn't 591 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 3: sign that long ago. But how many career rushing yards 592 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: do you have to have? Four hundred something like that? 593 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 3: Maybe after playing over a decade, I. 594 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, if his name was Eli Williamson, or maybe 595 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: if he didn't play in the Big Apple, if he 596 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 2: didn't play in New York, would people be talking about 597 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 2: this his career. 598 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 3: Eli Williams and STO would have two rings. His completion 599 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: career completion percentage just sixty point three percent. There's nothing 600 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 3: that stands out about this guy except for the rings. 601 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the accumulation of stats. 602 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 3: And he's on TV all the time still too, you know, 603 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: I've it's bothered me for a long time. I don't 604 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: think that he's really that close. Like, give me a favorite, 605 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 3: you don't mind? Can can you pull up Rivers numbers? 606 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 3: I think they're better and I'd much try to play 607 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 3: against Eli Manning than Philip Rivers. 608 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: What I can I can do you better than that. 609 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 2: So I'm looking here at all the career leaders here 610 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: in terms of passing yards. 611 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 3: Here we go. 612 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 2: So the passing yards, Eli Manning is eleventh, I believe, Yeah, 613 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: he is eleventh. The guys ahead of him Brady Breeze, 614 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, 615 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 2: Matt Ryan, and Dan Marino. 616 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 3: I don't think Ryan will go, but I think all 617 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 3: those others are pretty easy, and I don't think Rivers 618 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 3: will go. 619 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, right behind him is Eli Manning, John Elway, So 620 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 2: I mean he has he was a big time come. 621 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 2: He was an accumulator. 622 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 3: He is accumulator. Yeah, that's a great word for how 623 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 3: many how many seasons did he play? Obviously less than 624 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 3: Rivers because in lesson Ben, because it. 625 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: Was twenty fourteen through twenty nineteen. 626 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: That makes sense. 627 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I mean Rivers was two thousand and 628 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 2: four through twenty twenty. Roethlisberger was two thousand and four 629 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: th twenty twenty one. 630 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: I mean Rivers last year was a disasters. 631 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: He's six thousand yards behind Rivers basically, and he's seven 632 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: thousand yards behind Roethlisberger. 633 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: And he like a bench late in his career too. Yeah, 634 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 3: I don't think he's a Hall of Famer now. His 635 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: playoff numbers are great, those two playoff runs he was. 636 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: He either went when he made the playoffs, he either 637 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl where they beat in the first run. 638 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 3: They're done right right, And he also had some great 639 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 3: defenses and players around him too, I mean the straight 640 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 3: hand d line and all that. Now, because I think 641 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: he's definitely gonna go and may even get the most 642 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: votes of anyone you listed on that you know, Hall 643 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: of Fame list, and I just don't. I wouldn't. I 644 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: could sleep all week in Giants' week playing against Eli. Yeah, 645 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: if it's Steelers raven or Steelers Giants in the height 646 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 3: of both those guys powers, Giants de coordinator should be 647 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: a heck of a lot more worried than the Steelers 648 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 3: de coordinator. I feel that. 649 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel the way about him. Not quite 650 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: to the level, but I feel I feel it more 651 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: adamantly against Vinittieri getting in me too, over especially over 652 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: the other guys on this list. 653 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Eli obviously contributed to wins, much more 654 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: of it in the area, you know. 655 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: But he made big kicks like no other kicker in 656 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: the league would have made those kicks. 657 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 3: Right, right, right, like it's unheard of. 658 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: He he in a season. I looked this up today. 659 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: Adam Vinittier, he's going for sure. I think he is too, 660 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: and it's going to drive me nuts. Right when he 661 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: was thirty five years old, he's the all time leading school. 662 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 3: He's an accumulator too. His long kick for the season 663 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: was thirty nine yards. Thirty nine thirty nine yards? 664 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: Are they kidding me? 665 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 3: You're talking that's late in this season. That's career. That 666 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: was at age thirty five. He didn't even kick off 667 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 3: for the Colts for like ten years. 668 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: His last eleven years, he didn't kick off for the Colts. 669 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: It was eleven, yeah, and didn't try and they bring 670 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 3: out like the punter for long ones to win it 671 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 3: because he can't. I mean, he can't kick that far, right, 672 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: I mean his and it was a dome, right, I mean. 673 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 3: The Patriots stuff's awesome. I mean, I'll give you that. 674 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: The Patriot career was Hall of Fame track. 675 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: Steven Goskowski was better, was a better kicker for the 676 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: Patriots in the same era, in the same stadium. 677 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 3: He followed him directly he followed him. 678 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: He had a better career percentage. He had better numbers 679 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: with the Patriots than Vinettieri did. 680 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: I wonder if he'll get any buzz. I mean he 681 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: doesn't have he doesn't have the accumulation. Yeah, you gotta 682 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 3: last forever. 683 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Vinitieri did. 684 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 3: And I get so. Vinetieri led the league and field 685 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: goal percentage three times. 686 00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: Okay, great. 687 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 3: I mean if you kick for thirty years, you should. 688 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 2: He made two Pro Bowls and was first team All 689 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: Pro twice. 690 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: See two real good years. So what you're saying here, 691 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: if he gets in, if Chris Boswell kicks another, say 692 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: what goes six years whatever it is. 693 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: And is fourth on the all time you know, scoring 694 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: list or whatever by the time he's done, is he 695 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer? 696 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 3: Two? I think the answers he is going to have 697 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 3: better numbers. Yeah, yeah, I think the answer is yes 698 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: to that. Right. 699 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: Are we putting all the kickers in now? 700 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: Is that? You know? 701 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: Are we going to go the other way? I mean 702 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: I can't consider those guys against, for example, a guy 703 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: who's probably not going to get in, Jared Allen. 704 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 3: Or Jarry Evans plates every. 705 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 2: Sack Antonio Gates didn't get in last year, which is 706 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: crazy if you got first, and you're going to tell 707 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: me that Vinettieri and Eli Manning are going to get 708 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: in this year, and Gates is probably going to get 709 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 2: in this year, But why didn't he get in last year? 710 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: Right? My suggestion is put a special team or in 711 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: once every three or five years. That would have been 712 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 3: hester Lap year. Why take a. 713 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: Spot away from a guard that plays every down? 714 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 3: For example? 715 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: Are you telling me that Adam Vinettieri was more important 716 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: to his team and winning Super Bowls than heinz Ward? 717 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 3: Right, I'm even thinking of colts, like I'm Mathis. 718 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm talking to just real football players who you know well. 719 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 3: I mean, we've had this argument and it's actually funny, 720 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: the Norwood argument. Yeah, Like if you ask their head 721 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: coach who would rather be be out in the AFC 722 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 3: Championship Game, Norwood or Cornelius Bennett or Ruben Brown, Guys 723 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: that aren't going to go to the Hall of Fame, 724 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 3: Pete Metzelars, it's not even close, let alone Thurman or 725 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: look at the Chiefs this year as an example, Harrison, 726 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: Butker missed a bunch of games for them this year. 727 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 3: Harrison Butker is the second leading kicker in NFL history 728 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: in terms of field goal percentage. He'd probably have the 729 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 3: Boswell conversation if I need this for eight more years. 730 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been right behind Justin Tucker, the top four, Tucker, Butcker, 731 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: Eddie Pinero, and Boswell. So you're telling me that kickers 732 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: matter so much. Somehow the Chiefs kept winning games without Butker. 733 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: Now he's a fabulous kicker, and he gives you a bit, yeah, 734 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: of course, But at the same time season it didn't 735 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: derail their season. Boswell had a fantastic year this year. 736 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: And and if you gave me a any let's say 737 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: they had I'm just gonna pick it. They had Jason 738 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 2: Myers instead kicking those field goals. Maybe he misses more, 739 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: two or three more, or maybe Tom Mike Toman doesn't 740 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: try some of the long field goals that he had. 741 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: He sent Boswell out there, no question, there's a different decisions. Yeah, yeah, 742 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 3: but we're talking about some We're talking about the guys 743 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 3: who are top four all time in percentage kicking percentage year. 744 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 3: We're not talking about a guy the best I've ever 745 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 3: done Invinitieri, who is thirty fifth on that list thirty fifth, 746 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 3: and he spent he spent more. He spent more time 747 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: indoors in Indianapolis then he did kicking outdoors. Yeah, or 748 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 3: outside along with thirty nine Long, that's the worst thing 749 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 3: I've heard yet Long, Right, Like you had to be 750 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 3: inside the thirty yard line to send him out to 751 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 3: kick a field goal? Yeah? Wow, And it's it's apples 752 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 3: to apples. But we just said a lot of negative 753 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 3: things for Eli's case. Well, if Eli missed as much 754 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 3: time as Butcker giants win anything, it don't win, right right, 755 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 3: I mean Eli versus f and Terry is easy for me, 756 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 3: and I would still vote no for both. 757 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: So my votes this year, if I had to vote 758 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 2: for five, you're gonna eat. What they do is you 759 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: sit down, you vote for five guys. Okay, Now they 760 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: have to get eighty percent of. 761 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 3: The vote to make it. Yeah right, that doesn't but 762 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: believe it. If you put five names in the hat, right, 763 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 3: as a voter, I would vote for Gates. He's definitely 764 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 3: one of mine. I'm I'm not looking at the list, 765 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 3: but he's definitely one of mine. I would vote for 766 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 3: Luke Keikley. He's an easy one for me. That's two. 767 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: I would vote for the Steeler fans are gonna like this, 768 00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: but I would vote for Suggs. 769 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 3: He's definitely strongly considered for me. I'm not sure if 770 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 3: I have five ahead of them or not. Don't tell 771 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 3: Max Starks. I said that because I'm not a fan. 772 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 3: They're not. 773 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't get along. I would actually vote for 774 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 2: Fred Taylor. 775 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 3: It's not terrible. He's really really good. 776 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 2: And then my fifth vote would be probably one of 777 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: the two receivers, Holt or Reggie Wayne. 778 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 3: I think Holt's my third choice. Gates and Keikley are 779 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 3: my easy ones. And I will say there's not a 780 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 3: slam dunk gonna get every vote Peyton Manning type this year, 781 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 3: and most years there's somebody like that whom I missing. 782 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 3: I thought there was another one. I was pretty high 783 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 3: on the. 784 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 2: Two Allen's Willie Anderson, Jerry Evans, Gates, Holt, Keekley Manning, 785 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 2: Steve Smith, Suggs, Taylor, Vinitiery, Reggie Wayne, Darren Woodson, Marshall Yonda. 786 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 3: I'm pretty high on Yonda two Ravens, Yonda, Ha Suggs. 787 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 3: I don't think Yonda will go at least not now. 788 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 3: I also can't put them both in first year. There's 789 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 3: other guys, I know, but that's we just complained that 790 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 3: Gates didn't get in because it was first year. But 791 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 3: that's you know, I don't care. 792 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: The whole first time guys going in thing at this 793 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: level doesn't matter as much. 794 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 3: As does it to be either, because like they're making 795 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 3: it like that's a different fraternity than this. It shouldn't. 796 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 3: It is not. It makes it right. 797 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 2: But I think there is a backlog at wide receiver. 798 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: If I were voting, I want to take care of 799 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: some of that. 800 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 3: I think I would have Smith over Wayne though as 801 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 3: my second receiver on this list, but the Holt would 802 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 3: be one of my five. Yeah, Keith Lee was an 803 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 3: easy one. 804 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: I could see two receivers going in this. 805 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe Smith might be in my five. 806 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 2: The fact that heinz Ward can't even get on the 807 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 2: list to be talked about in that role. 808 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 3: He's in the same category as Wayne and Smith and 809 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 3: Holt and Bruce who's in and you know, right, I 810 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 3: mean like Marvin's better than those guys. 811 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, the play but there that whole group 812 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 2: is you know, yeah, I could make a strong argument 813 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 2: for any of them, and some of these guys like 814 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 2: Reggie Wayne, Reggie Wayne and Torrey Holt were on the 815 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 2: list when I voted, when I voted in twenty nineteen. Yeah, 816 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: like that's how long they've been talked about in that room. 817 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 3: Andre Johnson went last year. I was a fan of that. 818 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 3: It's not a super great class. It's not a great class, 819 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 3: but the ones coming up are quarterbacks coming There's some quarterbacks. 820 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 2: Coming up, including Brady and Roethlis Murder and Breeze, and 821 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 2: these guys are gonna be slammed dunks that you have 822 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 2: to you kind of have to clean out some of 823 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 2: these guys who've been on the list for a while, 824 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: probably or they're at some point in an hour never 825 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 2: for them, Yeah. 826 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 3: You run out the times or Wayne, it's probably an 827 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 3: how or never. Who do we think will go though? 828 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 2: I think because it's I think it's gonna be Manning 829 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 2: and Viniteer and all these other slappies, and I think those. 830 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 3: Two Keekley Gates and I'm not sure the fifth one 831 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 3: will be Yeah maybe Hole it's unfortunate, Yeah, yeah, I 832 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 3: bet that's how it goes. Because it's not the most 833 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 3: daunting list for a guy like Vinitari to get. 834 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 2: Over yea, or those guys could all end up splitting 835 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 2: vote votes. Nobody gets to that eighty percent threshold or 836 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 2: whatever it is now and maybe only four, maybe only four. 837 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 3: I would never think of that route. But it's so 838 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 3: split the way that they do get eighty the way 839 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 3: they do the vote now, because again they used. 840 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 2: To You sat in that room, you you voted the 841 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: first time, they paired it down to ten guys, and 842 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 2: you voted again, So now the list got shorter, so 843 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 2: now you have to vote again. 844 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, is hard to do. I think it's ititdy 845 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 3: cat me on that one. I can't remember it's been 846 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 3: And I do think that way of voting is how 847 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 3: they do it. They don't just take the five highest votes. Yeah, 848 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 3: necessarily you have to have a threshold. It would be 849 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 3: amazing to me that five really intelligent voters four of 850 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 3: them would vote for Mianitary. That blows me away. But 851 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 3: I think it's going to happen. 852 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you would be surprised. Yeah, yeah, because it's the 853 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 2: same guys who do the voting in there every year. 854 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 3: It doesn't change, and I'm sure there's some redundancy to it. 855 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 3: The conversations too, you know, the new guys are fun 856 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 3: to talk about. 857 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyways, let's get to a bread. 858 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 3: Who's up next year? They usually mentioned it. I think 859 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 3: come tomorrow it'll be a lot tomorrow. This is gonna 860 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 3: be next year's group. 861 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 2: I haven't looked into Yeah, but anyways, let's get to 862 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: a break. 863 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolli. 864 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, 865 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 2: Matt and I'll be back with more right after this. 866 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 867 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the 868 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 869 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the 870 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt. We haven't again talked a ton 871 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 2: about the Super Bowl here, but looks like the uh, 872 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 2: the Chiefs are pretty healthy. 873 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the injury reports are pretty good all 874 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 3: in all right, Yeah, but which is one of the 875 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 3: reasons they give him the extra week of course. Yeah, 876 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 3: you get your best players out there, bump some bruises people, 877 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 3: you know, got as people want to see. Yeah. 878 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey said he has a full heart of football 879 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 2: left in him. Full heart, a full heart as supposed 880 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 2: to having given half of his heart to Taylor Swift. 881 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right? Do we think this is his last game? 882 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 3: I bet it is. 883 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,760 Speaker 2: He's so much talking. 884 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 3: I know, he seems like he's talking about like we're 885 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 3: gonna go for a four p blah blah blah. Maybe 886 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 3: if they win, they convinced him to come back. But 887 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 3: he's such a reduced role this year. I mean, can 888 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 3: you imagine being engaged or involved with Taylor Swift? I 889 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 3: mean like that's a full time job in itself. I 890 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 3: mean no, I cannot match Netherlands and you know, just 891 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 3: all over the planet and all that entails. And I 892 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 3: can't imagine he worked out as much this year as 893 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 3: he did five years ago. And he's thirty five, and 894 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 3: he's thirty five, and you know, his legacy is set 895 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 3: in stone. 896 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 2: You know, me brother retired that they could just go 897 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 2: off and do their little podcast. We see enough of 898 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: the two Kelsey brothers on TV as like, I can't 899 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 2: turn on my TV without seeing Jason Kelcey. 900 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 3: Doing something Kelsey's and Mannings. Nobody knew who Jason Kelsey 901 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 3: was five years ago. No, even though he was a 902 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 3: Hall of fame type of center. But he's a center, yeah, 903 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 3: right until they won the Super Bowl their time, yeah right, 904 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 3: and then. 905 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 2: All of a sudden he's mister media star and he's everywhere. 906 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, his wife's on there. I mean, like everybody. The 907 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 3: Watts aren't too far behind, but they're not. Manning's and 908 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 3: especially Kelsey's are everywhere. Yeah. 909 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's gonna be interesting. We'll see what happens 910 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 2: with that. 911 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 3: And I'm hoping Brandon Graham plays just for like a 912 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 3: legacy last game with the Eagles type. You know, that'd 913 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 3: be a cool way to go out. Yeah, it's a. 914 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 2: Cool way to go out if you win, so cool 915 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 2: you lose, right. 916 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,919 Speaker 3: Right, But I mean he's an all time Eagles great, 917 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 3: it's easy to root for, you know. Yeah. 918 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll see, you know, if there's any kind 919 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 2: of news like that coming out of this game. You know, 920 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 2: I don't expect Lane Johnson to retire anything. 921 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 3: No, I'm trying to think who else would be up 922 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 3: in age that could retire. I mean, it sounds like 923 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 3: Moore is going to go to the Saints as their 924 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 3: head coach. Bags isn't going to get a job. I 925 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 3: don't think like Spags or Andy Reid are going to 926 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 3: hang it up or Fangio. 927 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 2: Here's the problem. Okay, so you're calling us spags. 928 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 3: Because I mispronounced his name regularly. 929 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just this is the whole like when 930 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 2: you're when you've been in this situation this many like 931 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 2: people just it's like, okay, he just he call him 932 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 2: by his nickname, like and you've been around to you've 933 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 2: done this too much. That's that's where the I think 934 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 2: some of the. 935 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 3: Just I think everyone to see. And you're with these 936 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 3: two teams, especially a Chief. Yeah, I mean three in 937 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 3: a row and it's the same guys, and it's unbelievably impressive. 938 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 3: But I definitely think the best matchup would have been 939 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 3: Lions Bills. Yeah, just in terms of people jumping through 940 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 3: tables and fan bases and the crazy somebody was going 941 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 3: to get one that hadn't gotten more right. 942 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 2: Right, we're still at the situation that we talked about 943 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, where there's twelve teams in 944 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: the NFL who have never won. 945 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 3: A Super Bowl. I know, it's crazy. Like there was 946 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 3: a graphic that I just cut and pasted and throw 947 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 3: on Twitter, like a week ago, and it just shows 948 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 3: all the the helmets a year after year of all 949 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 3: the teams, and it's like there's a lot of redundancy here, 950 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 3: you know, when you see every helmet up there, Like 951 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 3: there's a lot of Washington's, there's a lot of Dallas, 952 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 3: you know, and all of a sudden, there's a ton 953 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 3: of Chiefs. You know, like it's pretty crazy how few 954 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 3: teams have won Super Bowl? 955 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, absolutely. But anyways, let's get to 956 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 2: a break, Matt. When we come back, we're gonna do 957 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 2: a couple of different DFS lineers. We'll do one today, 958 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 2: we'll do one tomorrow. The first time we're gonna do 959 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna do a captain's chair. 960 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 3: Okay for the Super Bowl? Yeah yeah, and. 961 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 2: Then tomorrow we'll pick a regular lineup. 962 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 3: Give me a little tougher. Yeah, the running backs they're 963 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 3: both Harkley and yeah, everybody else. 964 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 2: It's gonna be difficult, but we'll give it a shot 965 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 2: and see what we come up with. We'll do that 966 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 2: when we return. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lallie. 967 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 2: You're listening to the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. 968 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 2: We'll be back with more, right after this,