WEBVTT - From the Vault: Christmas Island Crabs, Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you welcome to Stuff to blow your mind. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick, and it's Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>Time to go into the Old Vault for an episode

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<v Speaker 1>from December of This published December, and this was part

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<v Speaker 1>one of our two part episode about the Christmas Island

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<v Speaker 1>Crabs or Christmas Island Wildlife more generally. Yeah, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>the original title for this was Christmas Island Crabs Part

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<v Speaker 1>one colon Crabs rule everything around me um and and

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<v Speaker 1>then the next one, Part two also originally had a

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<v Speaker 1>Wu Tang themed title as well. But yeah, this was

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<v Speaker 1>just a really nothing to do with Christmas itself for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part. I think we maybe we sang some

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas songs. I think you made one up. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember which part it was in, But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>this is all about crabs and only marginally about Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like life, life is also all about crabs and

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<v Speaker 1>marginally about Christmas. Okay, yeah, I think I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's solid. All right, let's let's dive right in. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the Island of Christmas, and all across the land,

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<v Speaker 1>the red crabs were flowing across Root Street and sand

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<v Speaker 1>like a red tide of scuttling, claw snapping doom. They

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<v Speaker 1>streamed through my front door and into my rooms. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>in the forests the giants they're crawled coconut crabs, hulking

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<v Speaker 1>monsters with claws. They hunted for carrion crab bird and

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<v Speaker 1>ratted and gobbled it up, rancid, sinew and fat. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Robert Lamb, and I'm Joe McCormick, and

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<v Speaker 1>getting in that holiday spirit, we're gonna be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>crab Horror. Yes, this is this pair of episode. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been looking forward to all year. This has been my

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<v Speaker 1>my goal. I forget when, but earlier in the year

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading about Christmas Island and the various creatures

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<v Speaker 1>that that call it home, and I realized, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to do this episode for Christmas. Even though this really

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<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with Christmas, no, virtually nothing with Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>though I do enjoy um like forcing decapods upon Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>and uh and and and at least in my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>allowing them to take over the holiday Decapods with bows

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<v Speaker 1>of all is it bows should have said clause of

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<v Speaker 1>the glory. Either way, I appreciate the holiday zeal. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're going to be going to Crab Horror Island,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are many wonderful movies and maybe we'll save

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<v Speaker 1>it for next time to talk about our favorite Crab

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<v Speaker 1>Island movies. But the giant crab is one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite kind of movie monsters, and they've always got to

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<v Speaker 1>have their own island of terror, right right, and and

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<v Speaker 1>so in discussing Christmas Island and these two episodes, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about crabs or you know, decapods anyway

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<v Speaker 1>that are either enormous, uh, singularly and enormous or collectively enormous.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the first episode we're going to focus on

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<v Speaker 1>the collectively enormous, and the second episode will focus on

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<v Speaker 1>the decapods who are individually enormous. Now, this first episode

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<v Speaker 1>is going to focus on the Christmas Island Red Crab. Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>will you take me on a mystical adventure to crab

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<v Speaker 1>Horror Island. Yes, we're talking about Christmas Island so named.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the Indian Ocean about three hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>kilometers or two hundred and twenty miles south of Java

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<v Speaker 1>and Sumatra and around Uh let's see one thou fifty

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<v Speaker 1>kilometers are nine hundred and sixty miles northwest of the

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<v Speaker 1>closest point on the Australian Mainland. Technically part of Australia

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<v Speaker 1>though right it is an Australian external territory. It has

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<v Speaker 1>an area of a hundred square kilometers or fifty two

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<v Speaker 1>square miles, so not huge, No, not a big place

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<v Speaker 1>at all. It's a very old, though very old volcanic

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<v Speaker 1>seamount island. It was first visited by Europeans in sixty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Captain William Minors of the Royal Mary and English East

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<v Speaker 1>India Company vessel. He just named the island when he

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<v Speaker 1>sailed past it on Christmas Day of that year. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the only Christmas high end there he didn't find,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and naturally occurring Christmas tree there. Uh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no wasn't where the elf workshop was exactly. There's there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else about it except it was Christmas Day when

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<v Speaker 1>he found it. It could have easily it could have

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<v Speaker 1>easily turned out to be Christmas Eve Island, or Boxing

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<v Speaker 1>Day Island or Halloween Island. That would perhaps be a

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<v Speaker 1>little more appropriate, yea. So that one of the cool

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<v Speaker 1>things about this place is that when when they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to take a closer look at it, they realized

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<v Speaker 1>that it was uninhabited at least by humans. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>obvious that what makes this island unique is not anything

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<v Speaker 1>about the indigenous culture or anything, since it was apparently

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<v Speaker 1>uninhabited originally, but it was not uninhabited by wildlife. As

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<v Speaker 1>we've made clear, the wildlife there was of a terrific

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<v Speaker 1>scuttling variety, oh correct. And one of the really cool

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<v Speaker 1>things about the scuttling life on Christmas Island it is

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<v Speaker 1>that so much of it is on Christmas Island. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about land crabs, crabs that need only returned to

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<v Speaker 1>the water to mate, but mostly live on land. And

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<v Speaker 1>you'll find these elsewhere. To be sure, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>the only place land crabs can be found, uh, And

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<v Speaker 1>we're we're talking about both true crabs as well as

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<v Speaker 1>hermit crabs here. Hermit crabs are decapods, but not true crabs.

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<v Speaker 1>But forgive us as we as we talk about them

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<v Speaker 1>in these episodes, I will probably end up calling them

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<v Speaker 1>both crabs in the unofficial sense. The Christmas Island is

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<v Speaker 1>home to more land crabs than anywhere else on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking more than twenty terrestrial and semi terrestrial crabs species,

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<v Speaker 1>plus a hundred and sixties species or thereabouts in the

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<v Speaker 1>reefs and shallows around the island. Yeah, so Robert tell

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<v Speaker 1>me a little bit about crabs. Well, just to refresh everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>crabs are crustaceans. But we should be clear that again,

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<v Speaker 1>there are true crabs of the decapoda soap order bracci ura,

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<v Speaker 1>which means small tail um, which references their smaller abdomen.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there are the ano mora or mixed tail crabs,

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<v Speaker 1>which included hermits and as we'll discuss later in the

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<v Speaker 1>second episode, robber crabs. But still again we're often going

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<v Speaker 1>to refer to them both as crabs in the unofficial sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And these were these are ancient creatures. These were the

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<v Speaker 1>first animals to develop true legs, none of those false legs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we we've talked about crabs in the show before.

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<v Speaker 1>I think back to our episode about Carl Sagan and

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<v Speaker 1>the Samurai crabs. So so hopefully everyone is is on

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<v Speaker 1>board for two more episodes of crab based content. But

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not just the varieties of crab and crab

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<v Speaker 1>like creatures that live on Christmas Island that make it

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<v Speaker 1>Crab Island Earth, Uh, it is is the number are

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<v Speaker 1>of a particular species of crab there, the Christmas Island

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<v Speaker 1>red crab, where there are supposedly tens of millions of

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<v Speaker 1>these crabs on the island. And this is not a

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<v Speaker 1>big island. Remember it's a hundred thirty five square kilometers, right,

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<v Speaker 1>a small island. And yet yeah, I've seen the figures

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<v Speaker 1>of like fifty million of these creatures living, living in

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<v Speaker 1>the forest, living, you know, pretty much all over the island.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a reduced number. I remember we watched a

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<v Speaker 1>documentary about the island from the nineteen eighties that suggested

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<v Speaker 1>the time it was believed that there were over a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million of the crabs. They're right. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>nine eight eight David Attenborough narrated special titled Kingdom of

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<v Speaker 1>the Crabs. Great title, and that's a great one to

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<v Speaker 1>watch if you get a chance, because it really shows

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<v Speaker 1>off what makes this island visually astounding. But it's the

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<v Speaker 1>sheer numbers of the crabs, and the Christmas Island red

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<v Speaker 1>crab is pretty much found only on Christmas Island. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe on another nearby island or island group,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not found like all over the place. So

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to come back to the human history

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit before we explore the Red uh

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<v Speaker 1>Crab in depth. So the most you know, essential thing

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<v Speaker 1>about human history of Christmas Island is that for the

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<v Speaker 1>longest there seems to have been none. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>geographically isolated place now from everything I've read so far,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's always possible on missing something, but there's no

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<v Speaker 1>evidence that humans ever visited the place before the seventeenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>See this, despite Java being again only two miles away.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a short enough distance for modern humans anyway that

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<v Speaker 1>boats of asylum seekers frequently make it their point of

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<v Speaker 1>destination in reaching Australia, because again it's an Australian external territory,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you reach Christmas Island, you are, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in a legal sense, in Australia. However, it's also worth

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<v Speaker 1>pointing out that the seas can be deadly surrounding Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>Island and their stories out there boats of asylum seekers

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<v Speaker 1>breaking on the Rocky coast with lethal results. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've read about this in cases the early visitors to

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<v Speaker 1>the island also that you know, it was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous to land there. And for example, there was one

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<v Speaker 1>case where I read that a crew was driven to

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<v Speaker 1>land there because there was scurvy on the ship, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was only because the disease had gotten so bad

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<v Speaker 1>that they risked trying to land. Yeah, that's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the typical story book reasons for landing on an uninhabited

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<v Speaker 1>island with a strange crab population. Yeah, but out of

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<v Speaker 1>the scurvy pan into the crabs. Yeah, and you know it,

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<v Speaker 1>but but it is. It is weird to think about

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<v Speaker 1>places like this, places where where humans just didn't take

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<v Speaker 1>up residents. And of course you have to, of course

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<v Speaker 1>realize that moving to an isolated island is a difficult proposition,

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<v Speaker 1>like you've really got to have a reason to go

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<v Speaker 1>there and a reason to stay there, and a way

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<v Speaker 1>to um to to safely arrived there as well. But still,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's enough to make one wonder. For instance,

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<v Speaker 1>Homo erectus, or a Java man, lived on the island

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<v Speaker 1>of Java relatively close by one point seven years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Humans practiced agriculture. They're on Java as early as b C.

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<v Speaker 1>Java was known to traders and other powers. The Kingdom

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<v Speaker 1>of Mataram ruled there until they lost power to the

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<v Speaker 1>Dutch East India Company in seventeen forty nine and became

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<v Speaker 1>a vassal state of the Company UM, a statement that

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<v Speaker 1>I think really drives home the power of the East

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<v Speaker 1>India Company UM, the idea that you would have a

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<v Speaker 1>vassal state to a corporation. Yeah, but that's a Jova.

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<v Speaker 1>My point is that I just find it so enthralling

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<v Speaker 1>that this island remained either free of human contact for

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<v Speaker 1>so long or only encountered minimal influence. You know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's possible that it's at some point somebody

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<v Speaker 1>wound up there by purpose or accident and they didn't stay,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't stay long enough to leave a footprint, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Galapagos Islands or another example of this, though there there

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<v Speaker 1>have been at least disputed claims of Inca artifacts found

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<v Speaker 1>on the Galapagos Islands, perhaps due to Inca sailors being

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<v Speaker 1>blown off course. The Statials in the Indian Ocean are

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<v Speaker 1>another example of islands that were uninhabited through most of

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<v Speaker 1>recorded history, though they may have been visited by early

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<v Speaker 1>seafares as well, depending on who you talked to. But

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<v Speaker 1>with Christmas Island I found no such thing, and not

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<v Speaker 1>even a crackpot theory. So it really does seem as

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<v Speaker 1>if humans, not even the Vikings, went there the by

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<v Speaker 1>no Vikings or anything. So it really does seem that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody visited it until the seventeenth century, with the earliest

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<v Speaker 1>sighting I think having occurred in sixteen fifteen. Now after that,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, it actually did become an economically significant island

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<v Speaker 1>because of mineral deposits discovered there. That's right. It was

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<v Speaker 1>explored by British naturalist John Murray, and this was eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two. He discovered that there were phosphate deposits on

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<v Speaker 1>the island, which would play a key role in the

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<v Speaker 1>island's future. Exportation of phosphate begin in eighteen by the

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Island Phosphate Company, and this activity led to the

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<v Speaker 1>loss of twenty of the island's rainforest area. Yeah, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>phosphate was important in the late eighteen hundreds because it

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<v Speaker 1>had been discovered by that time that phosphate, when treated

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<v Speaker 1>with sulfuric acid, could be used as an ingredient in

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<v Speaker 1>plant food, and of course synthetic fertilizers became very important

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<v Speaker 1>in the development of commercial agriculture at scale, and so

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<v Speaker 1>now there was a reason and economic reason for people

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<v Speaker 1>to not only go to Christmas Island but to work there,

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<v Speaker 1>and so settlement began in the eighteen eighties. Uh later on,

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<v Speaker 1>during the Second World War, there was a Japanese occupation

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<v Speaker 1>of the island from ninety five, and in the post

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<v Speaker 1>war period it was administered by Singapore, which was then

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<v Speaker 1>a British colony, and then Australia purchased the island for

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<v Speaker 1>two point nine million pounds on January one, nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>eight day that's known as Territory Day on Christmas Island.

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<v Speaker 1>Today it has around I've read two thousand full time

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<v Speaker 1>human residents and the ethnic makeup is mostly Chinese and

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<v Speaker 1>melee Um originally brought in for labor. Now a big

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<v Speaker 1>portion of the land of the island today is basically

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<v Speaker 1>a national park. It's like a big wildlife preservation area. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>two thirds of its landmasters are national park now and

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of the wildlife significance here is the

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Island red crabs. So I guess we should dive

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<v Speaker 1>headfirst into a puddle of crabs after we come back

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<v Speaker 1>from a break. Thank thank alright, we're back, So it

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<v Speaker 1>is time to dive into a pit of crabs. The

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Island red crab or get Karkoitia natalis. And these

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<v Speaker 1>are crabs that live, as we mentioned earlier, primarily not

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<v Speaker 1>in the ocean, not even on the shoreline, but in

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<v Speaker 1>inland forests. So if you picture Christmas Island, it's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a terraced rainforest. It's a you know, a volcanic island.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got some steep slopes that go up onto rainforest

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<v Speaker 1>covered terraces, and the crabs go all the way up

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<v Speaker 1>into the forests and make their burrows inland. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking against something like fifty million of these little land

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<v Speaker 1>dwellers uh in the forest chewing up leaf litter, and

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<v Speaker 1>here on Christmas Island they are the chief decay agents

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<v Speaker 1>for that leaf litter. I've seen estimates of something like

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<v Speaker 1>four thousand crabs per acre to keep the leaf litter down. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and they primarily feed on plant matter, Like you say,

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<v Speaker 1>so that is going to be leaf litter. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>things like fallen fruits and seeds, flowers, et cetera. But

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<v Speaker 1>they're also crabs after all, so you might not be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised to learn that they are opportunistic omnivores. My favorite

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<v Speaker 1>pairs of words. So if you get a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of meat from say another dead red crab or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that presenting itself, this is a legitimate score, and

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<v Speaker 1>they will say, gentlemen, get that in my mouth parts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time to masticate. But the crabs are important for

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<v Speaker 1>the maintenance of the ecosystem in multiple ways. So they

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<v Speaker 1>clear the forest floor of like leaf litter, but also

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<v Speaker 1>saplings and flowers other plants that would create dense underbrush,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they keep the forest floors clean and this

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<v Speaker 1>actually helps contribute to forest biodiversity. They also prevent the

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<v Speaker 1>soil from being packed too densely because of the burrows

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<v Speaker 1>they dig. They're like natural soil tillers. They turn the soil,

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<v Speaker 1>and this also helps contribute to forest biodiversity. But so

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<v Speaker 1>we might have a pretty good sense of what the

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<v Speaker 1>life of an ocean dwelling crab is like. What is

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<v Speaker 1>the life of a land crab Like crabs, as you

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine, in between chewing up things in their environment

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<v Speaker 1>and eating it, they have to stay moist and this means,

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<v Speaker 1>for one thing, staying out of the direct sun. So

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<v Speaker 1>the red crabs on Christmas Island like to stay in

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<v Speaker 1>the shady forests and they live in these dugout burrows

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<v Speaker 1>that they can hide from the sun in and they

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<v Speaker 1>have guilt chambers that have adapted for terrestrial life. They

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep them moist, and they also I love this,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to manually wet their eyes stalks. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>love this. It's pretty cool to watch if you can

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<v Speaker 1>find video of this. So their ice talks emerge from

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<v Speaker 1>little cups in their carapace, and they don't have eyelids

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<v Speaker 1>of course, by the way, it just try to imagine

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<v Speaker 1>life without eyelids kind of a terror. So they wet

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<v Speaker 1>and wash their eyes by filling their eye cups up

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<v Speaker 1>with drops of water and then dipping their eyestalks down

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<v Speaker 1>into the cups to rinse them off. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is This is one of the great things about

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<v Speaker 1>watching any crab close up, but especially with the Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>craps is those tiny, little sort of methodical movements that

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<v Speaker 1>you see take place with their mouth parts and their

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<v Speaker 1>their eyes stalks totally. Now, despite their life in the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>they still have to return to the sea to spawn,

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<v Speaker 1>and this results in a vast, scuttling migration that is

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<v Speaker 1>truly unlike anything else on earth. This is why you

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<v Speaker 1>will you will see. You know, there's so many different

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<v Speaker 1>documentaries about Christmas Islands. One there's so much great footage

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<v Speaker 1>because they they go on these enormous migrations and we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking a several kilometer journey each year. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>crab Apocalypse. This is where the real show is on

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Island. So around the beginning of the rainy season,

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<v Speaker 1>which is sometime October through December, the red crabs begin

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<v Speaker 1>this migration for their breeding cycle. And the migration begins

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<v Speaker 1>with the males, usually the biggest males, who will crawl

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<v Speaker 1>out over land from their forest burrows to the shore

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<v Speaker 1>where they're going to eventually get there and dig new

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<v Speaker 1>burrows for mating. And as the males make this journey,

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<v Speaker 1>the females eventually joined them in the journey and they

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<v Speaker 1>march towards the sea. Now, once the crabs reached the shore,

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<v Speaker 1>but before they dig their burrows to mate, uh, they

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<v Speaker 1>typically wash themselves off in seawater, though strangely enough, they

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<v Speaker 1>have to be careful not to get fully sucked out

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<v Speaker 1>into the sea, because these are land dwelling crabs. This

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<v Speaker 1>is how they've evolved, and they can neither breathe underwater,

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<v Speaker 1>nor can they swim very well. These are crabs who

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<v Speaker 1>are not very good at being crabs. Yeah, so the

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<v Speaker 1>truly aquatic crabs in the neighborhood are just probably watching

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<v Speaker 1>this in halfing at them. Yeah, but there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>of them. How could you laugh at them? Because they

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<v Speaker 1>could really gang up on you if they got a

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<v Speaker 1>hold of your right But so they would rinse themselves

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<v Speaker 1>off in the sea water. And then the males dig

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<v Speaker 1>the burrows. Now, sometimes when they dig the burrows, usually

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<v Speaker 1>they'll go up a little bit from the beach and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the forested areas just right by the beach,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll dig these burrows. And sometimes the males have

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<v Speaker 1>to defend their burrows from other males, who of course think, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>why dig one when you can just claim somebody else's.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are sometimes these fights and dominance displays, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of claw waving to keep the burrows secure. And

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<v Speaker 1>then of course the females come in and they will

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<v Speaker 1>find a male with a burrow and initiate the mating.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, if you've never watched crabs mating before,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of the funnier looking types of animal sex.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just crabs look funny no matter what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing. But also if you can just watch their

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<v Speaker 1>eyes while they're mating, it's really something special. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like two google eyed robots trying to be sexy

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<v Speaker 1>at each other and then throwing some claws and swiveling

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<v Speaker 1>mouth parts. It's just awesome. Now you mentioned the waving

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<v Speaker 1>of the clause, I want to I was reading a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about crab clause in Douglas j Emlin's book

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<v Speaker 1>Animal Weapons. Uh And he goes. He spends a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of time talking about, you know, how these are

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<v Speaker 1>high energy adaptations to pack with powerful muscles. They need

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to break through the exo skeletons of

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<v Speaker 1>of rival males in many cases. Uh And he mostly

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<v Speaker 1>looks at fidler crabs in this book. But but but

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting stuff. The economics of not only having growing,

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<v Speaker 1>evolving gigantic class but waving them around, because that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of having the cleaving clause or a claw, is

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<v Speaker 1>to wave that sucker around, yeah, or like flexing your muscles,

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<v Speaker 1>like showing off the guns. Yeah, you have to show

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<v Speaker 1>off the guns. That's that's part of having them, right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the female will generally find a male and a

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<v Speaker 1>male with the burrow and they will mate. And then

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<v Speaker 1>after are mating, what the males do is they just

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<v Speaker 1>pack up and headback inland. Their work is done, and

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<v Speaker 1>they leave the females by themselves in these seaside burrows.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's another interesting thing about this. Okay, so the

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<v Speaker 1>red crabs are sort of moon worshiping druids. The breeding

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<v Speaker 1>migration has to be timed exactly according to the cycle

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<v Speaker 1>of the moon because the cycle of the moon affects

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<v Speaker 1>the tides. So the adult crabs arrive at the shore

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<v Speaker 1>and then they mate, and after mating, the females produce

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<v Speaker 1>eggs within about three days, and then they remain in

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<v Speaker 1>their burrows for another twelve or thirteen days. And after

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<v Speaker 1>this they emerge from the hole in the ground and

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<v Speaker 1>they release their eggs into the sea water. And it

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<v Speaker 1>has to be timed exactly at the turn of high tide,

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<v Speaker 1>as the moon goes from its last quarter to a

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<v Speaker 1>new moon. And this is because it's when the tide

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<v Speaker 1>conditions are just right to be releasing the young. But

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<v Speaker 1>if the migration is delayed by weather so that breeding

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<v Speaker 1>can't be timed exactly right with the phase of the moon,

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<v Speaker 1>the crabs will just wait. They'll just wait until the

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<v Speaker 1>next month to breed because it it's not it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going the moon isn't right. So when the time is right,

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<v Speaker 1>the females release their eggs acts, which looks kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a weird foamy sponge that they carry on the

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<v Speaker 1>underside of their bodies. They release these eggs acts into

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<v Speaker 1>the water. Yet again, I can't help but notice that

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<v Speaker 1>my wonder at these animals is combined with hilarity on

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<v Speaker 1>seeing this, because in some cases the female crabs have

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<v Speaker 1>to release their eggs into like rough surf while clinging

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<v Speaker 1>to rocks above the water, and they're trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>careful not to fall in. And when you see footage

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<v Speaker 1>of this, the way they're just frantically shaking their bodies

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<v Speaker 1>to knock the eggs acts off, dumping thousands of eggs

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<v Speaker 1>off a cliff, I can't help but laugh. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also sometimes they'll they'll go into the surf

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<v Speaker 1>on a beach and you'll see them like raising their

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<v Speaker 1>claws and shaking their bodies, like get off, just dumping

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<v Speaker 1>all these eggs off into the water. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's funny to me. Well, by in comparisons, they're

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not great moms, but by but by Christmas Island

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<v Speaker 1>red Crab standards moms of the year. Yeah, exactly, and

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<v Speaker 1>that this does make me think about the ways that

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<v Speaker 1>we anthropomorphize good parenting. I want to come back to

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<v Speaker 1>that in just a minute. So the eggs are released

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<v Speaker 1>into the surf and they hatch pretty much immediately, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you've got these hatchling crab larvae that live in

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<v Speaker 1>the water for about a month, transforming through large larval stages,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they returned the shore in this seething foam

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<v Speaker 1>of what looks like pink ants. This is also just

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<v Speaker 1>astonishing to see, like the original migration from the forest

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<v Speaker 1>to the shore with the beaches and rocks covered in

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<v Speaker 1>this surging, pink shag carpet of tiny millimeter sized baby crabs.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they mold and immediately after molting they are

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<v Speaker 1>committed to an air breathing life on land and they

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<v Speaker 1>travel inland to do as their ancestors did before them,

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<v Speaker 1>and this growth from about a five millimeter baby crab

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<v Speaker 1>staged adulthood usually takes about four years, during which time

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<v Speaker 1>they mostly tend to hide out undercover until they get

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<v Speaker 1>big enough to fend for themselves. But yeah, back to

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<v Speaker 1>this idea about the way we look at non human

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<v Speaker 1>animals and tend to to judge their parenting. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's inherently what I was doing when I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny just watching the mother crabs chuck their eggs off

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<v Speaker 1>a cliff. But it's like it's hilarious watching a crab

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<v Speaker 1>vigorously shake its body to knock all the eggs off

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. But it's because we've so deeply internalized the

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<v Speaker 1>brood protection tendencies of mammals. Mammals tend to keep their

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<v Speaker 1>offspring close and take care of them for for like

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<v Speaker 1>extended periods of time while they mature, and that would

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<v Speaker 1>make no sense for crabs to do. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, it is just mechanically the case, because the

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 1>eggs need to hatch in the water. That's what chemically

0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 1>and mechanically they do. But also mathematically, the parents have

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<v Speaker 1>a totally different relationship with their offspring. Mammals tend to produce,

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, relatively small numbers of offspring and invest a

0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:05.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of energy into caring for and protecting them. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to do a little bit of rough

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<v Speaker 1>math about the red crab. So let's assume there are

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<v Speaker 1>fifty million adult red crabs on the island, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got mated pairs, and each mated pair of adult

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<v Speaker 1>crabs produces tens of thousands of eggs. I've seen a

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<v Speaker 1>common figure of a hundred thousand eggs per female crab sited.

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<v Speaker 1>So if fifty million crabs made it and produced twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five million eggs sponges, and each of those had a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand eggs in it, and all those eggs survived

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<v Speaker 1>to adulthood, that would be two trillion, five hundred billion crabs.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Christmas Island is about a hundred and thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>square kilometers. If my math is right, this means that

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<v Speaker 1>just after one year there would be a Christmas Island

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<v Speaker 1>would have eighteen point five billion crabs per square kilometer.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying, as a red crab mom, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be willing to let some of those crabs go

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<v Speaker 1>because you have you have the numbers on your side, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just a totally different way of of

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<v Speaker 1>having a relationship between generations, right. They're going for for numbers.

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's quantity rather than quality. And it's just

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.919
<v Speaker 1>impossible for all those young to sustainably survive. Even if

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 1>a decent fraction of them survived, it would be ridiculous.

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Only a tiny fraction of them can possibly make it

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:24.440
<v Speaker 1>to adulthood in any ecologically sustainable way. And so most

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 1>they get dumped out into the water to hatch, never

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 1>make it back to shore alive. They get washed out

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 1>to sea, never to return. Apparently, whale sharks migrate to

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the Christmas Island area to eat red crab larvae when

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 1>they hatch, and among those that do make it back

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>to the beach in that in that you know foamy

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 1>pink shag carpet I mentioned, they're obviously going to be

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 1>pretty easy prey at that stage too. You can even

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:50.640
<v Speaker 1>sometimes see I've seen footage of this of adult red

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 1>crabs just kind of shoveling clawfulls of young red crabs

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:57.119
<v Speaker 1>into their mouths because hey, what are the chances that

0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:00.199
<v Speaker 1>these are mine? It's pretty slim. Again, it's a numbers game. Well,

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 1>plus it's they're just against so many of them. It's like,

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 1>if you make way too much a pancake batter, uh,

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 1>you may treat yourself to a few spoonfuls of unclick

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:12.679
<v Speaker 1>pancake batter. I mean, why not, it's there. You can

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 1>only make so many pancakes. You can make similar argument.

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>You'd be like, look, if I made all of this

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.440
<v Speaker 1>into pancakes, our house would be packed with pancakes six

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>ft high exactly. But anyway, given this kind of life cycle,

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 1>in these kind of odds, the way to be a

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>good parent is to do exactly what the female crabs do.

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.640
<v Speaker 1>They shake them off into the water where they've got

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 1>a chance, and then they call it a day. There's

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 1>nothing more you can do at that point. And if

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 1>somehow you were still around when they hatched and malted,

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 1>who knows, you might just gobble them up. So, despite

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>how funny it looks, I rebuke my instincts. I do

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.159
<v Speaker 1>not think that the red crabs are bad parents. I

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 1>think they're awesome crab parents. All Right, we're gonna take

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:52.439
<v Speaker 1>a quick break and when we come back, we're going

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 1>to get into the human element. What happens when we

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:59.680
<v Speaker 1>have the human element to the red crab element? Alright,

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>we're bad. Now. We discussed earlier how crazy these migrations are.

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, when the island can sometimes in areas, become

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 1>just thick with crabs that are moving from forest to

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>shore or returning from shore to forest. And this doesn't

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:16.359
<v Speaker 1>even take into consideration the fact that sometimes there are

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 1>multiple waves of migration during the same year. So you've

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>got crabs going both ways. Like one set of crabs

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 1>they moved down to the shore, and then there's another,

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:29.120
<v Speaker 1>uh you know, trigger of the rainy season, another set

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:31.680
<v Speaker 1>of crabs they start moving to the shore. Then then

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the other ones are going home. So you can have

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:35.919
<v Speaker 1>crabs going this way, crabs going that way. There on

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>the golf course, there on the streets, there in the

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 1>grocery store. I mean, it can become quite thick with

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>crabs on Christmas Island. And yet there are people here,

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 1>that's right, And those people have vehicles. Yeah that they

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 1>also have pets. Uh. We'll get into some of those

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 1>complications in a bit, but just the roads. You're talking

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>about something like a million crabs a year crushed by

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.959
<v Speaker 1>road traffic on Christmas High but that's still only gonna

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>shake out to something like one percent of the population.

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:09.360
<v Speaker 1>And the dead, by the way, are apparently swiftly cannibalize again. Crabs.

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Crabs are gonna do what crabs are gonna do. No.

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned earlier that there's this great old British TV

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>documentary called Kingdom of the Crabs and narrated by David

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Attenborough from nineteen I think, yeah, that was the same

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:25.439
<v Speaker 1>year that we got John Carpenters They Live, Killer Clowns

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 1>from Outer Space, The Blob the remake, the really cool

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:31.360
<v Speaker 1>eighties remake, as well as of course Mac and Me. Well,

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 1>this is right up there with those. But it's got

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>so many great moments, and one of the best moments

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>from it is when you're watching hundreds of crabs scuttling

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>across a pair of railroad tracks, and then a train

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 1>emerges in the background and it's barreling towards the crab crossing,

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and then the crabs show no sign of getting out

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>of the way, and then the train conductor starts blowing

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>his horn at the crabs as if that's going to

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>deter them. I guess it's like when people like they

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>stop in the road because the turtle is crossing and

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 1>they honked their horn at it. I never actually haunk

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>my Hornet's say, squirrels chip bunks, but I will almost

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>wreck my vehicle to avoid them. But I I guess

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>that's human nature. Like you don't want to squish crabs unnecessarily.

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe some people do. There are probably a

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 1>few people on the island who kind of get off

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>on it. Well, I've read that it can. It can

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 1>also hurt your tires. Yeah, you have people with flat

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>tires due to the crabs. Probably hurts trains less, probably, um.

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>But the humans have had to put in place many

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>steps to help the crabs cope with roads and tracks

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and the other ways that we have unfortunately disrupted their

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>migration zones. I mean, it's not the crabs fault, right,

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>They didn't ask us to put a road there, but

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 1>railroad tracks there to do all that kind of stuff.

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 1>So these adaptations are are pretty interesting. They include barriers

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.479
<v Speaker 1>of course around the edges of roads and put walls

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>around the roads to keep the crabs from walking onto

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>the roads. And these lead to of crab funnels that

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>route the crabs to specially designed safe crossings, so you

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 1>might have an underpass with a great on top of it,

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>or even there's even a five meter high crab bridge

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 1>climbable by crab to help them over one stretch of road.

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and you included a picture of these in

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>our notes. It's pretty incredible because it looks like one

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>of the recognizers those enemy ships in the Tron movies. Yeah,

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>it looks like like that, the big clamp that comes

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>down on top of you, right, except instead of being

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 1>made out of brightly colored light, it's covered in brightly

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>colored red crabs right now. Interestingly enough, early accounts of

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Christmas Island make no real mention of the crab hoards,

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>so you could you can look at that one of

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>two ways, right, Well, either it didn't occur in at

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>least with the same at the same level, or they

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>just forgot to mention it, which seems unlikely, so maybe

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>they didn't witness it. Well, it's true too, but there

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>is this suspected link between the current levels and the

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 1>recent levels of of of the red crab population with

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>the extinction of two species of rat that were on

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the island when Europeans first arrived. And uh, and it's

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>possible that these two species of rat may have kept

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 1>the populations more in check. What are these rats alright?

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>One is called mcclear's rat or memor rattis McCleary and

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>the other is the bulldog rat or Rattus nativitatis. And

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>those are just two of only five native mammal species

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 1>on Christmas Island to have been officially listed as extinct

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 1>since humans showed up. That being both of these rats,

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and the reason that they went extinct, it's it's probably

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>because exotic rodents were brought in by early human colonizers

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>or brought in. I would say they just came along

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>with let rats do. Okay, So the ideas that humans

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>brought different kinds of rodents, those rodents out competed the

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>native rodents, but those rodents weren't as much of a

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>competition with the red crabs. Well it's more than just

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 1>outcompete as apparently like straight up killed them off with illness.

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>It was looking at a two thousand eight study published

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 1>in PLS one, and they pointed out that there seems

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>to be a direct cause here, and it seems to

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>be disease. They collected DNA samples from the islands now

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>extinct native rats via late nineteenth in early twentieth century

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>museum specimens, and they attributed the extinction event here to

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 1>ship jumping black rats infected with the protozoan Tripanasoma Louizy,

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:42.719
<v Speaker 1>an organism that is related to an organism that causes

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>sleeping sickness in humans. And indeed, Native Island rats were

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>seen to stagger around following the arrival of the S

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>S Hindustan in eight and this protozoan is light is

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>likely spread by fleas, so we have you know, it's

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>a similar situation that we've seen with certainly with with

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>human populations and UH and other organisms, where an exotic

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>variant brought in a parasite that the UH, the native

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>inhabitants were just simply unable to deal with. Now, in

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>terms of other native Christmas Island mammals, others have had

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>a tough time as well. The Christmas Island shrew is

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 1>critically endangered. There's also a particular batu, the Christmas Island Pipistrelli. Yes,

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 1>thank you for help on that one. Now, it's it's

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>a ute name. It is a cute name, a cute

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>name for a bat. It's critically endangered, if not outright extinct,

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>and apparently the reasoning behind that is is not completely understood.

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>There's also the Christmas Island flying fox, which is another

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>type of bat. It is also in decline for unknown reasons.

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>And then you have the exotic mammals. We've already mentioned

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>black rats, but you also have a house mice, you

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>have feral cats and wild dog. Now do we know

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>what the explicit relationship between that change in the mammal

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>populations and the surge and crabs is. The belief is

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>that those populated the original populations of rodents were helping

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>to keep the population of crabs in check, and apparently

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the the the exotic mammals have not been able to

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 1>keep their numbers in check the same in the same rate.

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:27.439
<v Speaker 1>I see, So they're not adapted to to crab Island, right, Yeah,

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 1>it's it's one of those situations where again you just

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 1>see humans show up in the unbalanced things. Yes, Now,

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>in the case of the red crabs, it would almost

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>seem like the unbalancing made more spectacle. Right. Like, the

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 1>reason we're talking about Christmas Island is because we have

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 1>this enormous surge that arguably might not be the same

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>level uh if we had also not managed to kill

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:53.320
<v Speaker 1>off two whole species of rodents on the island. True,

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and there's going to be even more stuff along those

0:34:56.520 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>lines coming up. So there are actually multiple ongoing through

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 1>rats to the life cycle of these amazing animals. If

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.919
<v Speaker 1>if you care about the beauty of the crab army

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>scuttling through the forests, you should care about these issues.

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 1>One is climate related. So there is a paper from

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>in Global Change Biology called Linking L neno Local rainfall

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 1>and migration timing in a tropical migratory species by Alison K.

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Shaw and Catherine A. Kelly, and the authors here find

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>that species who's mating and migratory behaviors are determined by weather,

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 1>like the Christmas Island red crab. Remember it's the it's

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:37.360
<v Speaker 1>certain things about the beginning of the rainy season that

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.759
<v Speaker 1>tell them time to go to the beach and mate. Uh.

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>They will probably be adversely affected by the way climate

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>change is upsetting normal weather patterns that were used to

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>So the authors write, quote, we find that the timing

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>of the annual crab breeding migration is closely related to

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 1>the amount of rain that falls during a migration window

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>period prior to potential egg release states, which is in

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>turn related to the Southern Oscillation index and atmospheric l

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>ne NEO Southern oscillation index. As reproduction in this species

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>is conditional on successful migration, they don't reproduce if they

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 1>don't migrate, major changes in migration patterns could have detrimental

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>consequences for the survival of the species. So, in other words,

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 1>climate change messes around with the amount of timing of

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:30.399
<v Speaker 1>the rainfall on Christmas Island, and then the crabs get

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 1>the short end of the stick and could find themselves

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 1>unable to use their normal migration and breeding instincts in

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 1>order to produce the next generation. And this could also

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>have follow on effects with the animals that depend on

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>these migratory animals for food, like the Christmas Island red

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 1>crab is sort of a keystone species on the island

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:51.720
<v Speaker 1>in many ways. One of the things we already mentioned

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 1>is that those whale sharks come to eat the Christmas

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Island red crab larvae in the water. But another thing

0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 1>is as we mentioned, they maintain the state of the

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 1>forest by clearing leaf litter and clearing out other plants

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>in the undergrowth of the forest and you know, and

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>by turning the soil right, Yeah, they're their aerators. Now,

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:14.800
<v Speaker 1>there is another culprit that is putting the Christmas Island

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>red crabs at risk, and that is yellow crazy ants

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>crazy ants. Again, it's different crazy ants somewhat. So we

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>did an episode about crazy ants before, but that was

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 1>focused on a completely different animal. We were mainly talking

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 1>about the raspberry crazy ant of the genus Nylandria. The

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>yellow ant is a totally different genus. It's an apolo

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Lepus gracillips and these are ants with a slender body,

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:42.839
<v Speaker 1>long legs, and like the crazy ants in genus Nylandria,

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 1>they're also easily recognized by these movement patterns that give

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:49.240
<v Speaker 1>them their name. Their motion is sometimes described as frantic

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:53.319
<v Speaker 1>or erratic or crazy, and like raspberry crazy ants, these

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>ants can also form what are known as super colonies,

0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>which means they build separate but friendly nests which do

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 1>not attack one another and form a kind of web

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 1>of allied ant armies that can easily overwhelm the habitats

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 1>that they spread to, and so they're considered a very

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>problematic invasive species. Like other crazy ants. Also, they spray

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>formic acid as a defensive and offensive biological weapon, and

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 1>formic acid is a powerful chemical. Uh, it's apparently a

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>potent poison against land crabs. So you can imagine a

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.320
<v Speaker 1>bunch of ants come up against one of these Christmas

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Island red crabs and the ants spray formic acid in

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>its eyes, in the segment joints of the crabs, so

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, like getting in the leg joints, and this

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>can leave the crabs unable to move or to survive.

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:43.920
<v Speaker 1>And then after the crabs die, of course, the ants

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>get a feast of crab meat. And this has had

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 1>a huge impact on crab populations. It's been estimated that

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<v Speaker 1>in the last fifteen years the ants have reduced the

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 1>crab populations on the island by as much as tykes.

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 1>So local land crabs have been put severely at risk

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>by the yellow crazy ants. Interestingly, the yellow crazy ants

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 1>existed on the island for many decades. I think they

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>were introduced sometime in the first half of the twentieth century.

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I've seen estimates in the nineteen teens or twenties around then. Uh,

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 1>And they were on the island a long time before

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 1>they became so destructive to the land crabs beginning around

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen nineties. So what changed around the nineteen nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading a report that was put together by

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Parks Australia together with Latrobe University, and it appears that

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>it was only in the nineteen nineties or so that

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 1>these massive super colonies of yellow crazy ants began forming.

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>So what caused that change? What happened then? Uh? The

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 1>author's point to the emergence of a mutualism, actually a

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>symbiotic relationship, and this is a mutualism between the yellow

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:53.879
<v Speaker 1>crazy ants and another group of insects called scale insects.

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.280
<v Speaker 1>So it's like the like the two enemies, they they

0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 1>forged a truce and and then we're united against the

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>forces of the crab. Yes, so another non native species,

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the scale insects. What they do is they cling to

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 1>plant stems and they suck the sap from the plants

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>for energy, and they produce a sugary waste product from

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 1>their anal pores in the process. And the ants love

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>this sugary poop. They go straight to the anal pores

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and they eat it up. So they have formed this

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 1>mutualistic protective relationship with the tree sucking candy poopers. The

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:32.440
<v Speaker 1>scale insects suck from the trees, they produce sugary poop.

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.480
<v Speaker 1>The yellow the yellow crazy ants eat the sugary poop

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 1>and they protect the scale insects. And it appears that

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>this emerging symbiosis between the yellow crazy ants and the

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 1>scale insects is related to the ant's ability to form

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 1>these ecologically devastating super colonies. But here's so, then you

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>take the question one step back, Well, what caused this

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:56.880
<v Speaker 1>mutualism to begin in the first place. Uh, the authors

0:40:56.880 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 1>of this report don't know. They speculate that change ng

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>rainfall patterns on Christmas Island. We're putting stress on trees

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:08.399
<v Speaker 1>and this made the sap more concentrated, which means it's

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 1>even more sugary goodness for the scale insects. And this

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:16.319
<v Speaker 1>increases the population of the scale insects, which produces more

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 1>delicious sugary poop for their yellow ant friends, which means

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>more ants to protect the scale insects, which means even

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>more scale insects. And then you get this dangerous feedback loop.

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 1>It's this is all Christmas Island is in so many ways.

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>This Uh, this wonderful look at the horrible cascading effects

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 1>of colonialism, of human intervention in general, I mean at

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:42.399
<v Speaker 1>the macroscopic climate level and at the local invasive level. Yeah,

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.720
<v Speaker 1>like at every level. We have messed with this island,

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and we messed it with it in one way, and

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 1>now we're messing with it in a different way, and

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and now in fact we're gonna keep messing with it

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>in order to try to fix part of what we did.

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Because the question is can anything be done to save

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 1>these amazing red crabs? I mean, these are It is

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a wonderful thing to see these animals doing what they do.

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 1>And so I was reading an interesting article about this

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:11.720
<v Speaker 1>on the Conversation in UH posted in by two Latrobe

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 1>University professors Susan Lawler and Peter Green, and apparently Parks

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Australia has been trying to do all kinds of things

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 1>to help the crabs survive the crazy ants or to

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 1>knock the crazy ant super colonies back, like they tried

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.920
<v Speaker 1>poison bading the ants by hand. But apparently this is

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 1>just not an efficient solution. In seen, they launched a

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 1>new project and this was Killer Wasps. I like it

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>tell me more so, the Killer Wasps they're only about

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:40.840
<v Speaker 1>two millimeters long, and they're naturally found in India and

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Southeast Asia. They're called tach Cardia vegas Summerville and the

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:50.320
<v Speaker 1>author selected this tiny wasp because it attacks this specific

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 1>species of scale insect that has formed the mutualistic relationship

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:59.320
<v Speaker 1>with the crazy ants uh so. And the wasp is

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 1>a parasite oid that lays its eggs in the body

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>of the female of this one species of scale insect,

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 1>which hatch into more wasps that lay more eggs in

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:13.280
<v Speaker 1>these species of scale insects, and hopefully this will severely

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:17.800
<v Speaker 1>control the population of this one particular species of scale insect,

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>which is also invasive on the island. Uh And the

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>author's note that they've had to be very cautious because

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 1>they cite examples that, you know, in the past, we've

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 1>tried to introduce animals to places in the hope that

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>they would control the pest problem, but then they became

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>a problem in their own right. They said, the example

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of the cane toad in Australia, which was brought into

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>control cane beetles, but then it became its own kind

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>of problem. And I'm reminded, of course, of the old

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 1>nursery rhyme. There was an old lady who swallowed a

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 1>fly right, and she's forced to keep swallowing progressively larger

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and parasitic wasps and larger and more destructive organisms to

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 1>try and uh savor until if she dies at the

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 1>end of the song. Well, the authors, so we hope

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 1>that that happened. The authors claimed they performed rigorous research beforehand.

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh they tested really hard to make sure this wasp

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 1>would not harm other local species. And they said, you know,

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 1>according to their tests, everything seemed to check out. So

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 1>they introduced the wasps in sixteen, and I checked with

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 1>a more recent news article on the wasp control project

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.840
<v Speaker 1>from it looks like the effort is having early markers

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 1>for success. The wasps have become established, their range is spreading.

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 1>But we'll have to wait a few more years before

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 1>we see the full effect on the crab populations. But

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I hope it works, and I hope it doesn't have

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 1>any unexpected effects. Less to become Island of the wasps,

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Kingdom of the wasps. You don't want to have to

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>think about Crab Island needing to be protected. You want

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:47.239
<v Speaker 1>to think that Crab Island is an armored claw wielding

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:50.279
<v Speaker 1>force to be reckoned with, and that it you know,

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>it can withstand anything on its own. But I don't know. Yeah,

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 1>natural populations or even unnatural populations are vulnerable. Yeah, I

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:01.839
<v Speaker 1>mean look at Skull Island right King Kong's homeland. Oh,

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about population dynamics there. Or a

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:09.840
<v Speaker 1>monster Island where all the giant Japanese monsters with kaiju.

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 1>That's clearly these are places that need to be protected.

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 1>We don't need to go in there and try and

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 1>to feed them with our robots. Is there is there

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:21.080
<v Speaker 1>a crab kaju? Yes, there are. There are crab kaiju

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 1>up the wazoo. Yes, nice. Yes, they have their own

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:27.839
<v Speaker 1>movies sometimes. Yeah, Godzillafa. Want to forget its name? I can.

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I can never remember the names of the adversary that

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe it. But yeah, he found a giant crab in

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 1>one episode. It was I finally remember it from my childhood.

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:40.880
<v Speaker 1>But we'll get into we'll get into monster crabs a

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 1>bit more in the next episode of Stuff to Blow

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 1>your Mind, because we will talk about another resident of

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Christmas Island that is an enormous deco pod. In fact,

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:54.359
<v Speaker 1>that the largest land crab that you will find on

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Earth now naturally, would love to hear from everybody out there.

0:45:57.520 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 1>We have listeners all over the world. I wonder if

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:04.800
<v Speaker 1>we have just a single listener that lives on Christmas Island,

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>if we do email us yes, Likewise, we have a

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:11.839
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0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:14.319
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0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:18.040
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0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:20.400
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0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:23.000
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0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:25.120
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