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Speaker 1: with our gats. That's such a good segue. It really was. Okay,

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Speaker 1: way as an adult of like sort of extricating yourself

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Speaker 1: from that? Because I feel like there's just some some

425
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: trauma that you know, just just just intrinsic of itself.

426
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 1: There's so much trauma, and like as like recently, as

427
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: like three weeks, I've just begun to perform like physical

428
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: therapy on myself in terms of just like cranial fascial

429
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: like loosening of like those traumas. And I was like,

430
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: why am I holding onto this stuff that like does

431
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: not serve me. And like like the anti gayness the

432
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: like honestly like slaveship rhetoric that like is still handed

433
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: out to like black women at large and and gay

434
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: black men. So like the Bible was used in slavery

435
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: like to control the slaves. And so it's like God

436
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: says this and then it's absolute. And so like my mother,

437
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: God bless her heart, is of great survivalist. Like she

438
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: she put into me that fear of God and the

439
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: fear of the law, and like that fear kept me

440
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: alive to this point, you know, as a black man

441
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: not getting like killed, but I actually have to give

442
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: life on stage every night and bring forth life. So

443
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: I've had to remove a lot of that fear that

444
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: kept me alive and knowing that, like you know what,

445
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: I can't control how the world is going to receive me,

446
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: but I can control kind of in a way, like

447
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: if I'm accessing like the love inside of my room. Power.

448
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, that is so amazing. Yeah. The Crannial fashion release,

449
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: So that little pouch you have is actually fascia. You

450
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: can just rub that you just have to use Literally

451
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: I rubbed it out and it felt amazing God, and

452
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: now I won an Emmy. No, you're cut, You're cut, cunt, honey, Matt,

453
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: Now you're even hotter. What more can you need? Wait?

454
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: What do you feel like? Do you feel like you

455
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: need to be marvel like? Are you changing brands? Need

456
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: to be in a superhero? What? What? What is cutting

457
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: for you? What's the drive? Okay, what do you mean?

458
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: I would like to I would like to look in

459
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: the mirror and feel good. Feel Look, don't give me that.

460
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: Stop it. HPJ is shaking his head. Relative I always stop.

461
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: We're on this couch together. You're betterment is in the

462
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: eye of the beholder, and that is that. Okay, I

463
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: know that that's the summer of summer of kunt. I

464
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: just want to feel not as tired all the time,

465
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And then look in the

466
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: look in the mirror and be like, maybe I don't

467
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: feel so tired because I you know, standing up a

468
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: little bit straighter, even just this week working out a

469
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 1: little bit. I feel my back straightening, I feel myself

470
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: slouching less. Yeah, which is good. No, same, same I've been.

471
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: I've been vegetarian for the past three I started keeping

472
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 1: a food diary yeah, I was gonna like play this

473
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: diva at like a concert venue and it was a thing.

474
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: And so I was like very much like in a

475
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: process of like becoming that person. Like I was like, yeah,

476
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: just to be like fit and like you know what

477
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean, and feel comfortable and like be like awesome,

478
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: you know, the same behind the beholder, you know. So

479
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: I've like I've you know, tried to eat clean and

480
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: I do. I feel great good. It feels it feels better, um.

481
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: But what doesn't feel good is like denying yourself things

482
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: like you want like a site of pizza or something,

483
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: and they're like, no, bitch, no, I don't eat it.

484
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: It's bad. But it's not saying you can never read

485
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: pizza again, not all the day every day. But but

486
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: I do want to go back to something you just said,

487
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: which I think is something that people at home can

488
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: can access within themselves as well. People people I think

489
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: are listening, okay, um, which is the fear of being

490
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: everything that makes you brilliant because your history has told

491
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: you that's going to get you in trouble. That is

492
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: something really powerful or it's this thing of un learning,

493
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: this this instinct of or whatever this sum on learning

494
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: this message that's been sort of uh shouted at you

495
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: from above of just like that's not for you, that's

496
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: that's for them. Yeah, and who is that person? You're

497
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: not me, bitch, I'm president of my body, the Kingdom,

498
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: the Kingdom of I want to book a trip there?

499
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: How much for five nights six? It's probably like ten

500
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: dollars a cavat July nine, Like that is my god? Alright,

501
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: So listen, we've we talked so much about how funning,

502
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: brilliant you are, like a taste of that fact. I

503
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: don't watch this taste. I want the whole bit. Okay, okay,

504
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: So I think we should perform this very first song. Um,

505
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: and this is a track which was composed well you

506
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: bring this ouse. This is this is the very first

507
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: song I've ever written in my life. I read the

508
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: music of lyrics. Henry Kaperski arranged it and he'll be

509
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: playing it on this track. And um, it's inspired by

510
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: someone that we all know and loved. I was a

511
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: Sydney in Washington and I was complaining about how I'll

512
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: never fall in love. And actually I downloaded co star

513
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: app and I put in my sign and my astrology said,

514
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: you will never fall in love. And so Sydney was like,

515
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: Sidney was like, but sometimes people are just like, not

516
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,239
Speaker 1: mess me, People like look at Oprah. And so I

517
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: was like, that's not comforting, Sydney. But then I wrote

518
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: this song, so it is like it. Yeah, it is Oprah.

519
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: It's Oprah. It's called the Ballad of Oprah. Alright, great,

520
00:27:53,200 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: I want to hear this imminently, imminently. I'm Oprah Winfrey.

521
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: I don't need a husband. I have a Stegman. I

522
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: am my own husband. I am my own husband. I

523
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: have a stegman. I don't need a husband who says

524
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: that Mother Earth needs to have. Oh, I am the

525
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: mother of America. I define who am I am? Obrah.

526
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm Oprah Winfrey, world's first black fan male young man.

527
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: Who would mind you better? Fucking no, already throw those

528
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: those up in the air. Parade, I'm oh parade. Stab man, stabman, stabman,

529
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: stab man, stab miss step Man. You're fitting up beat

530
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: by fake husband, or you could be a dead man,

531
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: multiple choices. Here you ts this life. But she wants

532
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: some note that I'm never ever ever gonna be your wife. Hey,

533
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: step man, stabmis DAMMI step miss stabman, step man, tell

534
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: me feather light or make it heavy like some let man.

535
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: Oh man are greeting and you're a dirty pup, so

536
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: lap it up, eat it up, steady, put it in

537
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: the cup. I don't need a husband. I'm a husband.

538
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: I have a standman. Do you have a husband. Do

539
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: you have a standman? Oh, you are a stateman. I

540
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: don't need a husband. I am a husband. I have

541
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: a standman. And when the wind he's free your best

542
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: believe that win free. You will relieve the pain that

543
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: rains down upon us through sieves. I speak life in

544
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: to you recundantly. You'll live My chn read books, check

545
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: beneath your chairs, the color Purple, Alice Walker, my favorite

546
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: things to kind of Time, cruise, wht got nothing left

547
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: to lose? Good but a game that pain. Still a

548
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: little castor side black woman. Part of me remains from

549
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: my pudge lit little brown girl back in Kakouski, New City,

550
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: who would always watch the TV even when my mom

551
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: could love me. Now I am Mother Earth. So you

552
00:31:46,880 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: already fucking now, Oprah declar legends ball my ball, bitch.

553
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: You are invited to the next one, Honey, you better

554
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: be at the next Let Yeah, that was the story

555
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: of her life and just so virtuosic and so so

556
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: well done. I mean, damn, such a compelling person. Watch. Yeah,

557
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: it was. It's really it's crazy. It's similar to um,

558
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, we've had people come into the studio before

559
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: and we do episodes like this, musical episodes and you

560
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: have to stake them out and watch them perform live.

561
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: Because that just been today. I mean, like you are

562
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: a fucking actress. I'm sweating on this couch. Definitely. That

563
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: was my first time I've ever done it. That was

564
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: the debut of this song. I'm actually gonna go to

565
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: a show and do it live right after this. Excited

566
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: to see what happens to happen. Also that it will

567
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: get the whole of the children. My wig is bad

568
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: for right now, but you get a big The work

569
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: is the wig. I am the calls gol black women warm.

570
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: I won't say it a guy. I sometimes say that

571
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm the color School of young white girls and bowen,

572
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm the color School of Asian female at a trick, yes,

573
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: a literary fissures. Else, I was underway who in a

574
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: way creates words with fashion. Absolutely okay, bitch, that was unreal, unbelieva.

575
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: But by the way he was sitting in the fu

576
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: he's so fun. The whole time he did that sitting okay,

577
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: lounged back, and I think it made it harder. My god,

578
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: when I stand up, there's going to be a fucking

579
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: print of me, like like a sweatprint of me and

580
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: then swampy back. Ronnie better never washed that out of

581
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: that couch. It's rosewater, It's holy. Ronnie just said he

582
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: loves it. He said, I saw it. What did you

583
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: think of that performance? Amazing? Beautiful? Thank you Okay, oh

584
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: my god, thank you Henry for making that track and

585
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: for arranging the funk out of that. He snuck in

586
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 1: while we were recording, because he's gonna live a company

587
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: the next one. Hello Henry again, Well, it's great to

588
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: have you heard. You did a wonderful job recording that track,

589
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: and it was so awesome that you prerecorded because I've

590
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: never got to watch Larry because I've always been playing

591
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: and yeah, I just had was staring at him the

592
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: whole time. What do you think the first your first

593
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: time seeing it didn't work? Yes, yes, I'm so nervous, like, yeah,

594
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: it's like a big show for me from like me,

595
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: like you know, six months in comedy me, I'm like,

596
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, why am I on this lineup? And

597
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: so I'm afraid. That's another thing is like it takes

598
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: so long to get comfortable performing your own work in

599
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: front of people, and there's so much success and failure,

600
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: and like it's true, like the trunk aided nature of

601
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: like how much everyone loves you and your work now

602
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: it's like so impressive. I'm so nervous to go do

603
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: this live. I hope I hope that the wig doesn't

604
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: kill it. No, no, never rests on the wig. Look, Henry,

605
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: before you got here, we spent a good amount of

606
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: time sort of just live lifting you up and talking

607
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: about how you you brought us together and and how

608
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: like you you you are a very emblematic and representative

609
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: of this the inclusiveness of this community. He plays for

610
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: all the icon plays for every Scola you hit. Henry

611
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: behind Larry Hand, I got hand. You know it was

612
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: a coup, but I got him that night at the Duplex.

613
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: We'll go down in history. It's so funny. We were

614
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: talking about and spent like a hundred minutes. Guys. I

615
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: think I think it was December eighteen, like I think

616
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: it's on this day. I took a picture and like, mom,

617
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: this day, like and it really like I'm like so

618
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: gay about it. Oh, I said it, but like that's

619
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: really you know, I was saying like derocketory but meaning

620
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: that I'm just like obsessive over yeah, and I'm like,

621
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, like we love Lore, we love Mythos,

622
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: we love you know what I mean, and like that

623
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: the stars were like walk in. We ended up my

624
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: friend Jordan, I ended up at the Duplex because I

625
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: did not have my idea and we knew that we

626
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: could like just kind of ok on but like and

627
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: we did, being like, you know, very legal and so

628
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 1: like that's how we could have been anywhere that night.

629
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: And I like that the title of this EPP will

630
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: be Mythos and Grander, but it's true. Henry, we were

631
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: talking about how you know, it was very much you know,

632
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: it like a community that was really surrounded around you.

633
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: Listen to the app. You don't have to repeat it.

634
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: I'm blushing. That's so sweet and amazing to hear. Tell

635
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: them about your show that's coming up, Oh I am.

636
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: I have a solo show called Halo pop and I'm

637
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: doing my sixth and final performance on June twelve at

638
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: the Good Old Duplex on Christopher Street at nine thirty UM,

639
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: and it's the last time to do that. My parents

640
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: are coming, and this show is very important to me

641
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: and it represents like a huge shift in my life

642
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: and I think that everyone could get something out of

643
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: it if I can be so bold to say that,

644
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: And so you should come if you're free. That night,

645
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: three times I cried. Every time I cried, I wept.

646
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: I like, I like put my head on the brick

647
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: wall the Duplex and I was just like, Henry, why

648
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: are you doing this to me? And it was like

649
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: the marriage of the stories and songs and like the

650
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: way you're like a mascot of inclusivity and like that's

651
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: what that show is, like you just like champion guys. Well,

652
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: I really needed this. Henry and Henry, Henry, Henry and I.

653
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: Henry and I have have been talking lately, and Henry

654
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: has really changed my way of thinking, just approaching a

655
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: lot of things, just even even over just one interaction

656
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: that we've had. It's it's changed everything. And in addition

657
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: to the show and everything that you do in your work.

658
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, this is the effect Henry has

659
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 1: and this is my first time meeting him. Man, can

660
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: we talk, Larry? Can we talk about something this nightmare?

661
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: I know we clipped how many times I clipped during

662
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: the song zero technique. I didn't mean to cut you off. No, no, no,

663
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: no no, I'm saying, Larry, I want to talk about this,

664
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: this speaking of mythos and lore and and instead of

665
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: you introducing this Oprah song, you're are you? Are you

666
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: convinced that you are not going that you love? That

667
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: you you will not find love? Because I have for

668
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: a very long time projected that story, that narrative onto

669
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: myself and I'm very slowly trying to unlearn that. And

670
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: can I read a tweet that you tweeted at me

671
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: this weekend because I relate to it? No, no, no,

672
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: I don't have to read it. I don't know what

673
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: I said. I can't remember this was, this is? This was? Okay,

674
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: let's just me retweeting and tweet that Patty tweet. Patty

675
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: Harrison teeted. The good thing about using dating apps in

676
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: New York and l A is matching with CIS men

677
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: who say things like, hey, not actually attracted to trans

678
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: but would love to grab coffee and pick your brain

679
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: about getting into comedy sometime. Because I have a disease.

680
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: We're reading that is actually how I nut. So that's

681
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 1: it's a disease. It's a really specific but actually fatal disease.

682
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's a disease. It's a come based disease.

683
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: So she being insane, and then our friend Millie Tameras replied,

684
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: do you know how many dates I have been on that?

685
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: We're just informational interviews Larry Larry says, it's it's an epidemic.

686
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: And then you say this, this is Larry Owens My

687
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: version of this. I play culture and Nanny to a

688
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: gay person as they laugh, slash keys, slash lap up

689
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: my intellectual property for hours at an event, and then

690
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: I romanticized myself and then they turned into an iPhone

691
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: that someone just dropped into water. Oh my god. Yeah, no,

692
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: there is a spontaneous combustion of like when I'm like,

693
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: so there's like, so you're taught like how to flirt,

694
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: you watch it in film and you and you're taught

695
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: like how to like communicate. You know, I'm a very

696
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: great communicator, Like if I will not accept any complement,

697
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: but I will say that I fucking went to step

698
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: in Wolf and studied from actual geniuses who, like, you know,

699
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: so I'm like, I know what human behavior is, so

700
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: like I'm giving off of flurty vibe. And then I

701
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: have I always, I will never, I would never. I've

702
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: never been pursued romantically or like proposition romantically. So I

703
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: have to then put myself in the seat of the

704
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: what what do we call it, um dominant. I don't

705
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: like aggress or honey, because I'm black dominant dominant. Then

706
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: I have to become dominant situation and be like hey

707
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah, and then all of that

708
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: like warmth and reciprocity from when it was no you

709
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like all pockets like we like

710
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: we go from like humor to self help to pop

711
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: culture to family life. I read the eyes off of

712
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: you and I invite you in, you know what I mean,

713
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: and then it's immediately like oh googogle like literally just

714
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: like the eyes like jolt, and then the body shuts

715
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: down and then we just have to keep the moving. Larry,

716
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: this is what you have to remember that that is

717
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: that has everything to do with them and not with you, right,

718
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: I mean like O, yeah, but what bo and what

719
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: do I do? I like my horoscope said that this

720
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: is actually my lot, which actually gave me a lot

721
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: of freedom. I was like, okay, so that it's it's true,

722
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: Like it's some people Oprah included, you know what I mean,

723
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: like myself. I'm I'm gonna I can let myself in

724
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: with with your with your cohort. Yeah, I'm gonna sing

725
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: about it later. I'm just saying all about this. Wow.

726
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: Well anyway, I didn't mean to bring the converse. Now

727
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 1: it's easier for me to sing about it like it's

728
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: like no, it's it depletes me, Like I'm I'm at

729
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: my wits end, like I don't know what else to do,

730
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: Like I've literally I gave you f all people. I

731
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: threw my phone number on the back wall and was

732
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: like like it was like you know what I mean,

733
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 1: Like that's like a funny way. And then there's sincere ways,

734
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: and then they're direct ways. They're indirect ways of like

735
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: pursuing your goals in life, Like I met them all

736
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: except for one, just like wow, wow, I it's completely

737
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: different with me obviously, like, like, no, no set of

738
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: circumstances the same for any two people. But yeah, like

739
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: relate to that so hard. Gay people are trashy, and

740
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: I want to call out into your subconscious and so

741
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: that if you're listening and you're a gay person, all

742
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: of your romantic desires came from a fat ass, white,

743
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: fucking skid Mark underwear executive person who decided that the

744
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: two people who fell in love in that movie, we're

745
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: going to sell the most by looking the most like

746
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: people on ads. And all of that is based in

747
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: white supremacy. And so the fact that you can't see

748
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: me as a non thin, non white, non rich person

749
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: as sexual means that you're absolute fucking trash. And the

750
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: moment that you open up your eyes to seeing the

751
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: true sensual beauty of me, I'll allow. Wow, All allow,

752
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: all allow. Maybe that's title of app. Okay, take my

753
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: power back? Oh my god, can you say something? I

754
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: think everyone in the show needs to delete the fucking apps. Okay,

755
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: delete the apps. Henry is nodding. I deleted mine about

756
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: a year ago. And my life, I mean, I've done

757
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: a lot of that work. I'm changing my life, but

758
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: that has been a huge part of it. I don't

759
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: think this is the solving factor. No, but it is

760
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: poison that you would remove from your world. It is

761
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: true poison. Yeah, but for me as the chronic single person,

762
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: Like if I like sympathetically try to talk to someone

763
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: and I'm like I'm in this, They're like, are you

764
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: on do you put yourself out there? Are the apps? Yeah?

765
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: But I think that that do you put yourself out there?

766
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: Is whatever? That's a question. But then to follow that

767
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: up with are you on the apps? Is this weird?

768
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: Than like A to B, which is like why do

769
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: we have that? Be? The apps are trashed. They're disgusting.

770
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: They are designed so that people can engage with you,

771
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: and if they don't get exactly what they want, if

772
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: you can't project exactly what they want, then they are out.

773
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: And guess what, some people are fucking like you said,

774
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: so I'm dying because actually I was doing some talent

775
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: work for an app and then got rejected by I

776
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about, Gay App Corporation. It was honestly,

777
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: it was not even a I know what you're talking about.

778
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: It would not have felt the irony, but like I

779
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I don't think they're healthy. I just

780
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: deleted the mall. I don't think they're healthy. I think

781
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: that they are a place where people go to be

782
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 1: the worst base versions of themselves. And I ain't good

783
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 1: and I'm not I don't. I don't shame anyone that's

784
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: like found enough on them, but like you know, it

785
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: doesn't it's not like that for everyone, especially I don't know.

786
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: Grinder is just like about your experience, ye know, like

787
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: do you find like how is finding love for you? Um?

788
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: You know what? Not finding love? Like Henry and I

789
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: met when flirting organically the show, and that was over

790
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: to your relationship and you know, not that I was

791
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: proud that we met, um not on the apps, but

792
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 1: I felt good about the fact that and I felt

793
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: like I proved to myself you can meet someone out there.

794
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be honest with you, all the frustrations

795
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: I have about the dating apps, they can't possibly compare

796
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: it to what you guys go through, because it was

797
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: not saying that I genuinely want to know, like, because

798
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: I would also be projecting an thing onto you, you

799
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like, which I don't know just

800
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: what I'm realizing I'm doing a lot of the time

801
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 1: so to to to white people. You know, yeah, yeah,

802
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: you know exactly. I've had to um like give non

803
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: judgment of acceptance to my people as a way of

804
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: healing myself. I've I've spent a lot of time just

805
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: not giving them the benefit of the down and saying, well,

806
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: you have it so much easier, and like they do,

807
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: yes theoretically, but also whatever problems that I have no idea,

808
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's like I'm not even gonna

809
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: like go go that far and like go to go

810
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: to that mental place anymore, because it's like I don't

811
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,479
Speaker 1: know what they're freaking dealing. It just it just takes

812
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: up our time. It takes up our POC. We have

813
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: all of this POC stress, and we have like a

814
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: helmet on us that is all of the stuff that

815
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: we wear that was given to us that a white

816
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: person never has to deal with. And so what we

817
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: have to do we have to crack that thing open,

818
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: every helmet and take the pieces off. It's happen one

819
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: by one. It won't be a whole removal, because that

820
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: is hundreds of years of systemic oppression or I don't

821
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: even know what your diaspora is specifically. Sure, you know

822
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: you have to take it off piece by cracked the

823
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: helmet and take off piece by peace. Honey, babe, I

824
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: love this cracked helmet and I keep going honestly, and

825
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: I want a lifestyle brand l O l Lario's lifestyle ry.

826
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: Come on, I think everyone will want that. Yeah, we

827
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: have towels. That was beautiful. I want I need towels.

828
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: So La you were you were even more elevated than

829
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 1: like a performer, like you're an orange or I believe

830
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: hear you should already talk about anything. Yeah, I'm so

831
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: excited to do the college circuit next year, just like

832
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: every like Brown graduation and oh wait you do that

833
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: like a joke. But I'm like no, I think no.

834
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean now being single again, like it's you know,

835
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: it's still frustrating, but it's frustrating for different reasons, like

836
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: like when when you go on Grinder and like you

837
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 1: see everyone's body is like, how can everyone's body look

838
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: like that? You're telling me that every person's body looks

839
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: like this? There's some liars, there's some trickery, and talk

840
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: about your desires. What kind of men do you like? Um?

841
00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: I I've I still believe that I don't have a type,

842
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: but like I right, but it's what's like, what I

843
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: identify with you is this idea that like rarely am

844
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: I am I pursuit but also like I have created

845
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: a lot of untruths around my struggles too, like I've yeah,

846
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, okay, So you're open, but true

847
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: or false? Do you feel that society has almost, like

848
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: not successfully but like almost made you feel like this

849
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: is the attractive thing and it is white, thin, muscular

850
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: oftentimes like like either tall, dark and handsome or like

851
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: blonde beach boys like these are one of the two

852
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: things that even if you're white and like you have

853
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: red hair, you're like, funk that bitch so specific, and

854
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you go on these apps

855
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: and that's what everyone appears to look like, and it's

856
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: it's very intimidating and crazy, but true or false like

857
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: that does seek in? Yes? And one time Jewel friend

858
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: of the pod Joel Kim Booster texted me, um, he

859
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: had just in this panel in San Francisco with like

860
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 1: Asian performers or something, and he texted me out of nowhere.

861
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: He was like Wow, this guy in the panel, like

862
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: this skate dude on the SCA Asian dude on the

863
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: panel who grew up in Chinatown in San Francisco, talked

864
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: about how he had never internalized any idea of like

865
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: attractiveness that was like outside of his own body, Like

866
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 1: it was just it's like, oh no, like you're attractive. Yeah,

867
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: he felt of worth his entire life, and there was

868
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: like a unique like shocking experience for an Asian person. Yeah,

869
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: that's that's insane and horrid and I hate life so

870
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: much then. Of that that there was like someone who

871
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: was like, I'm fine. I did. Like, so I was

872
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: watching porn early, like we all were with the computers,

873
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: and so like I kind of sensed that they wanted

874
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: me to want one thing, and so I with my

875
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: like you know a little like precocious pornographic sense. I

876
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna decolonize my sexual desire. So like

877
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: I made sure just to really spread it. And I

878
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: think it's like I was doing the work back then. Yeah.

879
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: It's just funny when you go to like the porn

880
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: sites and the categories are like otter, twink, redhead, black,

881
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: It's just like salt and peppery scrub. It's just like scrub.

882
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: Dumped up is not a real category, but on some site. Honestly,

883
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: I do think that if I fell more neatly into

884
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: a gay upset, I would not have as many problems.

885
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, like, you know, I colde switched too much

886
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 1: to be a black person. I'm like, no, like a bear,

887
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: twins are a different type of you, you know what

888
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: I mean? And this is why I think we need

889
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: a dis because from from all that ship, because literally

890
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: grinder makes you identify with the tribe and it's like,

891
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: why the fund is that a thing? That's what they do.

892
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: I've come to find it there there is a certain

893
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 1: type of sabio sexual out there, someone who is purely

894
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: attracted with now. But I feel it. I feel that

895
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: they're out there and that they're gonna they're gonna come,

896
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: They're gonna come to you bated breath, Larry Hey, who

897
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: I find hope through song? Yeah, that's beautiful. Yeah, and

898
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: this bitch wants to sing a song. Yeah, because everything

899
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: we just talked about about, I brought it up. I'm sorry, No,

900
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm fine going to the places. I'm an actor. First,

901
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: we're going to go to the place Henry is gearing up. Okay,

902
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: so is this another original? No, we're going to navigate

903
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: through my two favorite musical theater composers. One owns my heart,

904
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: the other owns my mind. The first is William Finn

905
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 1: and the second is Stephen Sondheim. Sure, so we're gonna

906
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: start with, Oh, this is a it's a it's a

907
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: composite bit. It's an arrangement by Henry Koperski. Thank you

908
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 1: very much. This is a Henrykerski original arrangement. Wow, we're lucky.

909
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: M hm. Oh, I'm madam man in the can. Wouldn't

910
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 1: you know? He was going my way? We talked till

911
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: far he talked more. I was afraid I turn and say,

912
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: love me for what I am, not what I try

913
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: to be, Love me for what I am, not what

914
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 1: I try to be, loved me for what I now,

915
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: what I try to be, loved me from what I

916
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: am now. When I try to be a person who

917
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: likes you, did out too much. I try too much

918
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: to impress other people, often my inferiors. Oh, becauld you

919
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: like a girl like that? Could you like a girl

920
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: like that? Could you hold her in her arms? Could

921
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: you like a girl like that? Could you like a

922
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 1: girl like that? Could you like a girl like we land?

923
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 1: He plays that, I play again with sound delight, Hello,

924
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: oh and love to weeks. Guess who speaks? Darling says,

925
00:53:55,239 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: might survive the night. Love me for what I am

926
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: when I try to be, Love me for what I'm

927
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: to try to be. Somebody hold me too close. Somebody

928
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: hurt me too deep. Somebody sit in my chair and

929
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: ruin my sleep and make me aware. I'll be good,

930
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: lie be Somebody need me to. Somebody know me too.

931
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: Somebody pull me off short and put me through hell

932
00:54:53,160 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: and give me support for be good life, make me alve,

933
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: make confused, mock me with pray, let me let me

934
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: be used, very mindy. But along is along not love

935
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: get Somebody crowded me with love. Somebody course me the kids.

936
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: Somebody helped me come through. I'll always be there. That's

937
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: frightened as you help us SERVI be Wow, Wow, thank

938
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: you so much for that. That was incredible, Henry, that

939
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: was amazing that. I mean, Larry just we never like

940
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: really discussed the arrangement. I just always like Larry's energy

941
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: just truly just like move my fingers, I swear I

942
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: don't even know what's happening with it as a listener

943
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: to Really, you are such an amazing storyteller and such

944
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: an amazing a motive, incredible special performer. We're so lucky

945
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: to have fucking cool friends, Like you're the best, You're

946
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: the best, Like that's like something that like those two songs,

947
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: I you don't know my entire life and I have

948
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: someone to arrange it for me and people asking me

949
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: to sing it beautiful. You're the ranger though, like I

950
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: played it. I swear, I'm not even like thinking it's

951
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: you're like telling me what to do with your voice,

952
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: and like there's like little cells in my brain that

953
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like it's you we got that's not common, Henry, Right,

954
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: that's like that's rare. Yeah, no, it's it's X factor.

955
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: Doesn't happen when um Bowen sings Bang Bang, it thrills

956
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: me like that. I think at this point, I'm like, God, Henry,

957
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: it must be so fucking sick everyone. I would play

958
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: every every day now right now for the people. Yeah,

959
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to me now, but you must treat

960
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: the listeners. I need Wait, do we want a diva tag? Okay?

961
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: What is diva textva tag is a queer sport. It's

962
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: where you have a song and we all just tag

963
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: off on the verses. Who can sing? And I'm telling

964
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: you alful way through no one? So you diva tagay?

965
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: But no, no, not not that song that I'm saying,

966
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: like I feel like I'm a little out of my depth.

967
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: But what if it was like a nice low song

968
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: written for a Dina Manzel. I'm saying I'm not that girl. Lyrically,

969
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: you know I'm not that girl. Oh I know I'm

970
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: not that girl. Make it up, you guys both saying

971
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm not that girl playing Miranda Priestley's daughters and in

972
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 1: my production of Devil, I'm not that girl. Oh my god, girl,

973
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: did we played Miranda's daughters? I thought we Miranda's daughters

974
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: and you also played her? Like assistance had multiple role

975
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: Who played who played Mirando? John Hay who played in Hathaway?

976
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Yes, everybody? She said no good Deed?

977
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: Lisa Trager was Adrian Grenier. Wait, maybe we should do

978
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: no good deed. I don't know no good deed. You

979
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: don't know no good I don't know what that well,

980
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: it's it's whatever. Okay, last six game defined gravity. We

981
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: all know it from the lead up in a nice

982
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: key for us. We can't we could do a step

983
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: over there to find it's okay, wait wait wait ta

984
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: me wait, hold on, hold on, how does this is

985
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: the first time you've played this? I'm flying, so I

986
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: gotta say, I gotta say the name. Maybe you put

987
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: me over here in the Howard Stern booth so I

988
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: can't tap you, but that's fine to gesticulate. I can

989
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: go boomp and boomp? Is that clean? Gesticulate? Would it be? Lower?

990
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: Keyboard has six keys on it, that's true. This is

991
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: a like a tri tone below the original. Oh my god,

992
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's truly. So if you can't find me,

993
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: look to the western sky Larry has someone told me

994
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: lately everyone has a chance to Matt, so stop flying

995
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: for it. Also around take a message back from me.

996
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: This is not Ryan poem. I know it's a bust.

997
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: It's okay one of those people that I thought knew

998
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: the lyrics to every song I do. But now now

999
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: the thing is, you know what happens is when a

1000
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: key changes, I get very nervous and freaked down. Even

1001
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 1: I get it. I get the musicality. Yes, but I'm

1002
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: very happy that we're being this vulnerable with the listeners.

1003
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: I think that was fun. My friend okay hearing me go? No, babe,

1004
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: I saw it. I saw your neck. I was concerned. Guys.

1005
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: I promise you I can sing. I have done shows

1006
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: where I'm sang and been the featured singer. You have

1007
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: an amazing Christmas show. Can I please be in it?

1008
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: This is heard of Christmas? Have you heard of Christmas?

1009
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to potentially do it at

1010
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: a new venue, but I want to start thinking about

1011
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: it soon. You can absolutely be and that we should

1012
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: do a duet, all write original song. Yes, that'd be

1013
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: fun and really get blown away Christmas. Christmas culture was

1014
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: big for me growing up too, so I love it.

1015
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: I love the idea of taking Christmas so seriously they

1016
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: make an album for money, No, bab, Christmas is every

1017
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: si I can Christmas. Christmas is like the one time

1018
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: of year that I got to not feel black, because

1019
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: like you had stuff. Everyone acted nice and well adjusted,

1020
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, yeah, actually you

1021
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: get the things you need and everyone smile. Get the

1022
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: things you need? Feel that hard? All right? So we

1023
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,479
Speaker 1: have to move on to. I don't think so, honey,

1024
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: we have Wait, we're not going to do a full

1025
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: dev attack. I think we would. What do we have? Okay,

1026
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: so it has to be a male song because okay, no,

1027
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: they don't start until I told Marcia, okay, can we

1028
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: do um? Can we do let me be your star

1029
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: at least? Okay? Okay, yes, yes, okay, fine, we can

1030
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: do it and every and then and then but then,

1031
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: but then it's the duet part in the end. Where

1032
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: is how is that going to work? We'll all kind

1033
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: of just take it, take it? Okay, great, great, Well,

1034
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: I can't believe we're gonna do this. Here we go.

1035
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: Is it starting with me because I'm Katherine, Oh bitch,

1036
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: I'll take it at the top In Fading Girl with

1037
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: the song No I don't learnka for fame in a

1038
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: face and a name to remember the past fads away

1039
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: because as of this day, Norma Jean's gone. She's moving on.

1040
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: Her smile and her fan sees playing you're doing not

1041
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: you loving at where you music starts playing, It's all

1042
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: here in my heart saying let me be your start

1043
01:03:55,640 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 1: on that note, slash back, you are gravy with a

1044
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: song in her is healthy and she's waiting to start

1045
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: the advent. That's drum dr rune that may dreams come

1046
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: on live. They feel her soul, jeessy control laughter, my

1047
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 1: favorite lyric, the tears just like pearls. Yes, they're all

1048
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: in this girl's revelution. It's all Oh, the taking back,

1049
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: it's all here and my heart's quaking. Mab your time.

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01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: I just have to forget hurt that came before. I

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01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: forget what you soon be. The past is on the

1052
01:04:53,600 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: cutting room for my future is him with me chess

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01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: on the side, with it all in her size, all

1054
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: the low and the light hats around her. Someday she'll

1055
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: think watch Lisa everyone on the twos and the price.

1056
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: She'll have to passion today today, boy to day, shoot

1057
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: do she can? For the love of what that and

1058
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: form Melli playing Roma fry so here on. My heart's

1059
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: bleeding to let me be your sy Okay even do

1060
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so. As you hit the last note,

1061
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: the street light outside came out. But timing is not

1062
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: our time. The fans gonna be mad? Are they gonna loved? Wait?

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01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 1: We have a quick, quick I don't need the honey

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01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: to get OK, yes, we're gonna do it. I have

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01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: I have a good one. This is Matt Rodgers is

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01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I

1067
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Everyone being like, oh, ABC, amazing

1068
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: job for canceling Rosehane, Bitch, that's like leaving your house

1069
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: with every lit candle burning, coming back and then calling

1070
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: the fire department when the house is on fire. Bitch,

1071
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: you knew what you were doing by putting her on television.

1072
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: What the fund did you expect was going to happen?

1073
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,479
Speaker 1: She was posing a Nazi garb doing bullshit. And also,

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01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. If you say, well, when

1075
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: about Kenthy Griffin and the Donald Trump head, because one

1076
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: is punching up and one is punching down. Roseanne constantly

1077
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: punches down. She's always punching down through humor. And also

1078
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: she tweeted a while back about the Michelle Wolf thing. Uh,

1079
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: this is why you never go for someone who's more

1080
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: famous than you in the crowd. You lose the crowd

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01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: every time. Yeah, bitch, because you punched down. If you

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01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: think that for one second, she knows what it's like

1083
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: to be Roseanne Connor, you she doesn't. She hasn't been

1084
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: Rose Unconnor for over thirty years, so she had that show.

1085
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, ABC being pat on the

1086
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: back for doing the exact rock fucking right thing and

1087
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: also not for nothing but wand dislikes left before the

1088
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: cancelation was announced, and the granddaughter was gonna leave before

1089
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: the cancelation was announced. They weren't doing the right thing.

1090
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: They were canceling something that was already imploding. So and

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01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: eight seconds, I just feel like it's like, wow, ABC,

1092
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: amazing swift job. It's like, no, when someone acts out,

1093
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: they get fired. It's not not pat on the back

1094
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: to the corporation. It's like hello, they put her on

1095
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: there anyway. Yes, yes, it shouldn't have been on the air.

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01:07:55,120 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: Um am, I now you're check out. We love like

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01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: I have nothing to add. That was very replete, like

1098
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: now we've all been in this. Okay, all right, so

1099
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: this is and as time starts now, I don't think so, honey.

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01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: San Francisco Hotels, bitch, you are too expensive. Honey. I'm

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01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: the only thing that was in my price range and

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01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: wasn't a fucking den of sin, was uh this hotel

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01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: that seems fine, but it's like very much like a

1104
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: low frill, like no frills hostile situation. Like I'm fine,

1105
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 1: I won't even be spending that much time in my

1106
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: lodgings when I'm there over the weekend. But bitch, it's

1107
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: too expensive and for San Francisco rents to be even

1108
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: higher than rents in New York City. Who do you

1109
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 1: think you are there? We're not a cultural nexus of

1110
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: You're not the cultural nexus of this country, San Francisco. No,

1111
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: you have a bunch of fucking nerds, you know, walking around,

1112
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: and and some lovely people in Oakland and Berkeley, of course,

1113
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 1: but I don't like the culture in San Francisco and

1114
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: how it's complete lately destroyed, the the the it's it's, it's,

1115
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a completely cost prohibitive city. It's the

1116
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: most cost prohibitive city in this country in the Western hemisphere,

1117
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: Shall I even say so? I don't think so many

1118
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: San Francis hotels. I'm staying in at the Bartlett Hotel,

1119
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 1: which you know could be better, honestly. And that's one

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01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: minute and seven seconds. It's beautiful. You know. We're all

1121
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: playing with the form here today before we go to Larry,

1122
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: who will kick who finish it off? I want to

1123
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: give you the option of doing them. Would you like

1124
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: to do it? And think? So honey, Henry, You've done

1125
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: it every time? Sure, okay, he wants to do what

1126
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 1: I want to do. Do you want you want us

1127
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: to wait? Hold off, stall a little bit, I'll do one.

1128
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: It's you have it? You have it? Yeah, okay, this

1129
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 1: is Henry Koperski is I don't think so, honey. As

1130
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: time starts now, I don't think so honey. People that

1131
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: get upset at the new Star Wars movies like what

1132
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: do you expect? They are for children? If you made

1133
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: them for you, like, they would suck. They would be

1134
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: so boring. And the old movies, the original trilogy is bad,

1135
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 1: like it's it's my favorite thing in the world, but

1136
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 1: it's not like amazing, and you're acting like their treasure.

1137
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: You're acting like it's the Bible, which is also not

1138
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: really great and we should just enjoy. I saw Solo

1139
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: last night and it was ridiculous. It was stupid, but

1140
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: I had fun because that's what I wanted out of it.

1141
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,759
Speaker 1: And everyone was bad in it. Everyone, but I wouldn't

1142
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: recast a single person like it was fun, you know, um,

1143
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: and I think you should just don't see movies if

1144
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: you need them to, like, just watch the movie that

1145
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: you wanted in your head. I guess the movie you

1146
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: want to write. And that's good. That's fifty three seconds,

1147
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: which obviously offsets are That's very beautiful and very true

1148
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: to who Henry is. He's pure of heart and he

1149
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: wants everyone to just have fun and enjoy it and

1150
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 1: doesn't understand why it lots to be such a big problem.

1151
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: Just an unimpeachable human being. Star Wars. Star Wars is

1152
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: fun for kids, for kids. It's for kids, Oh my god,

1153
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: And it's time I've never seen one. Is there a

1154
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: trouble here? I mean it's either trouble or I could

1155
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 1: like be messy? Can I? I kind of want you

1156
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: to be messy. Put him in on the clock. Okay,

1157
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 1: this is Larry and I don't think so, Honey's time

1158
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey, Bowen Yang talking

1159
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: about what I'm interested in? After that, faithful at the Duplex,

1160
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: I slid into your d MS the first mine I'd

1161
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: ever message a nous on the day. But I said

1162
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: that on a day with you and you said that

1163
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: you were liminally not into place. I had to look up. Liminally,

1164
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: dare you say you're sabio sexual? I know that your

1165
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: desires are as colonized as anyone else's talking to Big

1166
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: top bitch, what about that walk? You know that I'm

1167
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: not to talk to that mind, but that body, that spirit,

1168
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 1: that essence, all of it? Do Katherine Code, I have

1169
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: a pilot and a character named Owen. Yes, we do.

1170
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: Is it above board? No? Is it happening? Yes? Oh

1171
01:11:52,479 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: my god? What second? Honey, I'm gonna get some more time.

1172
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: Seven seconds? You got seven some more seconds about San

1173
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: Frand hotels, So maybe I actually wouldn't work out. That

1174
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: was really agh that way, Troble. You just trolled the

1175
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:32,919
Speaker 1: whole bowl, honey, messy wow, bitch. This episode was wild, crazy,

1176
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: full of thoughtfulness and abandon intellectual but yet physical verbally physical.

1177
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't know on the spot made

1178
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 1: it wrong. I'm I'm so glad you did that. Okay,

1179
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm glad, Okay, we'll talk. Oh my god, Oh my god,

1180
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: oh my god. What an incredible episode. This is an

1181
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 1: incredible episode, and now the world will go to Larry's

1182
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: shows in July what's Larry's musical breakdown with Henry and

1183
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: we gotta check the checks? We gotta does Henry is

1184
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: a new tadline is does the check clear exactly to

1185
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: be compensated? Like literally, I would rather like pick someone

1186
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: that I would not pay than to pay Henry not

1187
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: his worth like that is like a respecting the time

1188
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: making money. Yes, and must and must and obviously second

1189
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: putting all together, it is the music of Stephens and

1190
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 1: I'm the only time you'll ever see it classically through

1191
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 1: the black lens, the black queer lens. We do the

1192
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: songs in the original form. We don't change the range,

1193
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: we don't change words, but all of it speaks with

1194
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: a new vitality that I think will be really really

1195
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: lovely to hear in amazing. Watch paid Off on True TV.

1196
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: The game shows. It's a comedy game show, and the

1197
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: winner of each episodes get their student loans paid off

1198
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: in full. We're hoping to change the country so that

1199
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 1: you are not sad of with It's you all. I

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01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 1: don't have a b f A. I have a certificate,

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01:13:58,280 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: so I don't have the K, but I start for

1202
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: a college show, honey. So watch Paid Off on True TV.

1203
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 1: They actually be going up in anyway. For that, you'll

1204
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 1: fucking rock. We'd love you. Thank you, Thank you for coming.

1205
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: Follow me home on Instagram. He wants more followers. Let

1206
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: the music, Let the music play, Take me Forever. This

1207
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: has been a Forever Dog production executive produced by Brett Boham,

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01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:40,160
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