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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey you welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. Listener mail.

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Speaker 2: My name is Robert.

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Speaker 3: Lamb and I am Joe McCormick, and it is Monday,

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Speaker 3: the day of each week that we read back messages

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Speaker 3: from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind email address. If

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Speaker 3: but we especially like when you have something interesting to

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Speaker 3: add to a topic we've talked about on the show recently.

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Speaker 3: Let's see, Rob, do you mind if I kick things

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Speaker 3: off with this message from Joe about necromancy?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Please do? This is a good one.

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Speaker 3: This is from Joe spelled Jo. They're right, dear Joe

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Speaker 3: and Robert. I loved the series on necromancy and communing

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Speaker 3: with the dead. I'm Southeast Asian and supernatural slash spooky

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Speaker 3: stories are the norm here. One of my favorite monsters

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Speaker 3: is actually the Jongshi. They've been depicted as bloodthirsty, mayhem

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Speaker 3: causing monsters over the years, but the legend behind them

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Speaker 3: is quite sad. Imagine leaving your family to work in

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Speaker 3: a far off province, only to perish in an unknown land.

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Speaker 3: Your last wish is to be buried back home, but

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Speaker 3: hiring people to carry your dead body back to your

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Speaker 3: loved ones is expensive and difficult. Your only other option

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Speaker 3: is to have a Taoist priest briefly resurrect you from

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Speaker 3: the dead and guide you as you make your way

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Speaker 3: home for the last time. Now an inauspicious creature, your

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Speaker 3: limbs frozen in rigor mortis, you hop slowly through the

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Speaker 3: wilderness in the dead of night. Your only company is

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Speaker 3: the priest who walks before you, ringing his bell to

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Speaker 3: warn the living that the dead are near. While your

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Speaker 3: series was on how the Living Attempted to Contact the dead,

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Speaker 3: Southeast Asia is rife with stories of the dead contacting

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Speaker 3: the living. It's common for Chinese people to ask each

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Speaker 3: other if they've dreamed of a deceased family member during

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Speaker 3: or after the funeral proceedings. A friend once told me

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Speaker 3: that the day after her grandfather passed, he appeared to

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Speaker 3: her in a dream, and she asked him if he

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Speaker 3: was all right. He replied, don't worry, I will soon

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Speaker 3: have company. Your uncle is coming, and two days later,

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Speaker 3: her uncle passed from a heart attack. A common story

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Speaker 3: you'll hear from cab or rideshare drivers. Here is passengers

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Speaker 3: have the GPS lead them to a cemetery. All this

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Speaker 3: makes me think of is that perhaps we're all lonely

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Speaker 3: souls reaching through the divide in search of a connection

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Speaker 3: we couldn't find in life or in death. On a

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Speaker 3: lighter note, and this is connecting to our series on

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Speaker 3: Monster Cats, Joe writes in the latest episode, Hello Kitty

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Speaker 3: was listed as an example of a cat. You might

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Speaker 3: not believe this, but Sonrio insists that Hello Kitty is

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Speaker 3: not cat and is in fact a little girl cry

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Speaker 3: laughing emoji. I guess Sonrio is the company that owns

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Speaker 3: Hello Kitty.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Originally Hello Kitty was like a mascot and

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Speaker 2: then of course takes on a life of its own.

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Speaker 3: Joe says, yes, I couldn't believe it at first too.

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Speaker 3: She is supposedly, or she is supposed to be a

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Speaker 3: little girl called Kitty White who was born in London.

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Speaker 3: I will leave you with this snippet from an interview quote.

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Speaker 3: It is a one hundred percent personified character. A Sonrio

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Speaker 3: spokesman told AFP in Tokyo, the design takes the motif

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Speaker 3: of a cat, but there is no element of a

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Speaker 3: cat in Hello Kitty setting. Joe adds in parentheses, I'm

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Speaker 3: still mind blown. I love what you do. Looking forward

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Speaker 3: to more episodes, Live Long and prosper Joe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well this was a great one, I guess, starting

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Speaker 2: with Hello Kitty. Goodness. I can't remember if I'd ever

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Speaker 2: heard this before. If I had heard it before, I

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Speaker 2: not a cat, because clearly Hello Kitty is a cat, right.

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Speaker 3: Hello Kitty is obviously a cat. Hello Kitty has cat

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Speaker 3: ears and also whiskers, I think, Am I wrong?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And then there are other animals. Is like a frog, right,

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Speaker 3: Maybe the frog's a frog, but the cat is not

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Speaker 2: All right? Well, it's shocking. I can't lose too much

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Speaker 3: This reminds me. I'm sorry to bring this up yet again,

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Speaker 3: it out, and it was called Garfield Beyond Thunderdome. It

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Speaker 2: Now. As for these other topics here, greatly appreciate these

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Speaker 2: the jung shi are are such fascinating creatures slash motifs

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Speaker 2: came up in our Weird House Cinema episode on Mister Vampire,

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Speaker 3: That really seems to be a theme this October that

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Speaker 3: came up a lot in the In the Necromancy episode,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, This next one comes to us from Scott.

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Speaker 2: Scott writes and says, Hi, Robert and Joe just wanted

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Speaker 2: to mention that your recent series on necromancy doubtless reminded

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Speaker 2: many of us who grew up in the seventies of

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Speaker 2: our introduction to this art, the classic but often campy,

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Speaker 2: Saturday morning children's television series The Land of the Lost,

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Speaker 2: in which Enoch often used the Library of Skulls to

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Speaker 2: to you to say more about this pop culture invocation

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Speaker 2: more than some others of his genre did, e g.

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Speaker 2: Enoch's loss of his culture and friends after he found

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Speaker 2: had degenerated into the barbaric slee Stack. Okay, I do

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Speaker 3: Scott I wish I could comment on this because it

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Speaker 2: but I am vaguely aware of the Slee Stack.

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Speaker 3: So the premise of the show is like a family

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Speaker 3: transported back to the time of the dinosaurs. But it's

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Speaker 3: Slee Stack sounds like the name of I don't know,

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Speaker 3: it does. Okay, moving on to some messages more focused

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Speaker 3: on monster cats. This one comes from Anna. Anna says, Hi, Robert, Joe,

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Speaker 3: and JJ I enjoyed your episodes on the Strange Cats

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Speaker 3: how there is the idea that cats have some secret,

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Speaker 3: Silent Meow by Paul Gallico. This is written as an

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Speaker 3: a book. So it's kind of like the screwtape letter

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Speaker 3: Anna says. I think part of the mysterious nature of

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Speaker 3: cat called Sammy Whiskers. She is now one year old.

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Speaker 3: of her funny habits is that she will run at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, though, my cat Mochi well, is not shy about

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Speaker 3: That's that defiance. It's just like complete non compliance with

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Speaker 3: enjoyed your weird house cinema. On Bride of Frankenstein. You

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Speaker 3: were talking about a scene where Lord Byron says something

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Speaker 3: kind of demeaning to Mary Shelley and she just snarks

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Speaker 3: Anna continues. There is a scene where they're sitting by

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Speaker 3: says something like, oh, I think you must come from

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Speaker 3: the fairy folk. As you've mentioned in past episodes, fairies

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Speaker 3: This is a real vibe of the boss making a

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Speaker 3: by Jane's boldness that she literally drops are knitting. Jane

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Speaker 3: Air is one of those books that if you try

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Speaker 3: is also a very witty book. Thanks for all the

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Speaker 3: great work, Anna and I agree on that last point.

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Speaker 3: It's been years since I read Jane Eyre, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: I recall it also having very funny elements as well.

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Speaker 2: All Right, this nice one comes to us from Chuck.

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Speaker 2: Chuck writes in and says, Dear Robert, Joe and JJ,

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Speaker 2: hello and happy early Halloween. Like many of your listeners,

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Speaker 2: I truly appreciate your commitment to providing thoughtful intelligence and

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Speaker 2: to be honest somewhat creepy discussion topics during October, I

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Speaker 2: the Baca Niko. The popular board game Betrayal at House

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Speaker 2: on the Hill, made by Avalon Hill and now in

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Speaker 3: All right? This next message is from Joe, a different

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Speaker 3: For there is nothing sweeter than his peace when at rest.

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Speaker 3: which is patience upon proof positive. For he can spraggle

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Speaker 3: But to address the main subject here, Andrew, you know,

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Speaker 2: His character is od, you know, a good Irish boy.

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Speaker 3: Who is the character to discover that the hunger Beast

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Speaker 3: from outer Space is into metal. Yeah, anyway, Brian has

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Speaker 3: the info for us. Brian says, uh, Wasp, they are

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Speaker 3: the progenitors of what my friends and I call quote

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Speaker 3: crude dude rock heavy metal. Buy dirt bags for dirt

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Speaker 3: bags and those who love them. Wasp's main claim to

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Speaker 3: fame was that Columbia dropped the presumed lead single from

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Speaker 3: their debut album before it even hit stores in nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty four. The studio recording of the egregiously titled Animal

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Speaker 3: Parentheses f Like a Beast wasn't officially available in the

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Speaker 3: United States until over a decade later, which gave them

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Speaker 3: the air of danger that all crude dudes desire. I'm

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Speaker 3: a big fan of their absurdity and think they might

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Speaker 3: have made a bigger splash if they hadn't been quite

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Speaker 3: so unattractive. They really leaned into it in the eighties.

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Speaker 3: That was a non starter for hair metal, so they

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Speaker 3: never really broke big. Still. A vinyl box set of

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Speaker 3: their first five albums was just announced and I'm anxiously

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Speaker 3: awaiting my copy. Wow, thanks for the pleasant memories.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at this vinyl box set right now, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a lot of WASP. That is a definite proof

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Speaker 3: Well, I admit this gap in my knowledge. I am

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Speaker 2: Oh and then here's a picture of them. Yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: They've got that hair metal crew dude vibe going.

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Speaker 3: On here, and they're all holding knives.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, knives, Michelle. Oh, one has a hand grenade teeth

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Speaker 2: on the pin. There you go. All right, Well, thanks

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Speaker 2: Brian for that, and we'll come back and discuss your

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