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Speaker 1: now listening to the Iron Rap Reports Stereo podcast. Today

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Speaker 1: we are remembering Nipsey Hustle, talk about the few times

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Speaker 1: I got to meet him, talk to him, my impressions

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Speaker 1: of that, and just such a sad situation. The NBA

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Speaker 1: Is I on Williamson? That dude I started working on

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Speaker 1: a typical plus filmmaker, my man, documentary filmmaker. I've never

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Speaker 1: met this guy, can't wait to talk to him. He

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Speaker 1: directed Cocaine Cowboys Part one, Part two. He directed the

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Speaker 1: ESPN documentary The ESPN thirty for thirty the You. He

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Speaker 1: directed this dope ass documentary called dog Fight at His

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Speaker 1: new film, Screwball, is all about the nefarious dark side

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Speaker 1: This guy is Mr. Sick Fuck of Florida himself. Billy

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Speaker 1: Corbin is on the show talking about documentary filmmaking and

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Speaker 1: his new film Screwball. All that and more on a

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Speaker 1: Miles Jordan give me something real nice, some real proper,

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Speaker 1: Stereo Podcast. My name is Michael Rappaport a k A

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Speaker 1: Gringo Man Dingo. Um, let's get into it right away.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a dope episode, but such a sad

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Speaker 1: uh loss um. Everybody already knows about this. Uh rapper,

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Speaker 1: uh businessman, activist, whatever, all these different things, Nipsey, hustle,

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Speaker 1: passed away, got assassinated, got murdered, got killed, got shot

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Speaker 1: and killed, and it's just, man, there's something about this

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Speaker 1: that's very sad um, very upsetting. It's crazy because in

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Speaker 1: hip hop, so many stars going back to Scott Larroc

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Speaker 1: and hip hop is this. It's crazy and everybody understands

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Speaker 1: why so many rappers come up from hard times and

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Speaker 1: the door, and the jealousy and just the lifestyle and

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Speaker 1: everything that comes with being a part of the hood,

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Speaker 1: whether you're uh still rocking, still banging, still still thugging

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Speaker 1: or not. It's just hard to get away from all

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Speaker 1: that ship and the jealousy um and the envy and

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Speaker 1: people's sensitivity and people's miss misunderstanding of what is ego

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Speaker 1: and not ego. And it's just a fucking sad day, uh,

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Speaker 1: said another sad loss. A sad loss. Uh. For obviously

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Speaker 1: this guy's family, his friends, Uh. For I mean, this

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Speaker 1: This dude is about real estate. This is a dude

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Speaker 1: is about buying different buildings, different houses. He was just

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Speaker 1: think the first I met him three times, Nipsey Nipsey Hustle,

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Speaker 1: I met him at an event. There was some performance, uh,

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Speaker 1: because you know, Nipsey Hustle, uh is a play on

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Speaker 1: even the eighties Nipsey Russell actor comedian Nipsey Russell UM.

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Speaker 1: And I remember the first time I heard that name,

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Speaker 1: And I remember being backstage at this thing and this

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Speaker 1: And they said, Dad, that's so and so, and we

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Speaker 1: three times I met him, he always said to me,

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Speaker 1: And I remember that night there wasn't a big altercation,

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Speaker 1: And we actually talked about him being on the Iron

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Speaker 1: the last time I saw him. UM. Loved his last record. UM.

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Speaker 1: But like I said, I think the thing about this guy,

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Speaker 1: Nipsey Hustle that resonated even more than his great music

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Speaker 1: was who he was as a person. It resonates. You

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Speaker 1: just a fucking sad, sad thing for for this to

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Speaker 1: they know who killed him, and it wasn't some long

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Speaker 1: respect to Nipsey Hustle. Umm. And it's just a sad situation, alright,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember anything. The final start May. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: from April until May we have all sorts of playoff action.

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Speaker 1: And that first week of the playoffs is probably my

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Speaker 1: Stop Porzingis formally of the New York Nicks now of

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks is allegedly, but I'm pretty sure this

423
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: is true, he is under investigation for a rape or

424
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Speaker 1: sexual assault in New York City. Crazy surprising. UM, let

425
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: me just be clear on this. I have nothing personal

426
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: against uh Porzingis, and if he's innocent, I will be

427
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: touting his innocence as much as I've uh you know

428
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: my history with Porzingis. But when he got traded, I

429
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: was like, fuck Porsingis. But this is all again, this

430
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Speaker 1: is all on the character of the players. UM. I

431
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: don't know this dude personally. I wish him luck and

432
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Speaker 1: if he is not guilty, I really hope that they

433
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Speaker 1: find out the truth of this. I will say, based

434
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: on what's been reported, this sounds really questionable. This thing

435
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Speaker 1: with Porzingis sounds really the fucking questionable. First of all, Uh,

436
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: they're saying that the woman who is now accusing him

437
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: of rape at one point, and the NBA is well

438
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: aware of this, Uh tried to extort Porzingis, because when

439
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: these kinds of things happened, they reported to the NBA.

440
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: NBA securities like the secret Service, they start protecting, investigating

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Speaker 1: and getting involved. A number two and and this is

442
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: the weirdest thing. When Porzingis had that terrible injury the

443
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Speaker 1: night when he blew his knee out last year, the

444
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Speaker 1: injury that's kept him off the court until now, that

445
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: is when this woman is saying the incident happened, so

446
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: he had a career threatening, season ending injury, and then

447
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: he came home, had sex wasn't consensual, and and raped

448
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Speaker 1: based on what I know, And then she's saying he

449
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: called her his slave. And I listen, based on what

450
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Speaker 1: I know by what's being reported right now with the

451
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: alleged extortion and alleged trying to bribe Kristap Porzingis and

452
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Speaker 1: his brother or his agent or whatever the fund is

453
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Speaker 1: going on, and the fact that they're saying that Kristop Porzingis,

454
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Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't just fucking tweak his knee. He

455
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: didn't sprain an ankle or sprain of thumb or an elbow.

456
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: He blew his fucking knee out where he he couldn't move,

457
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: he couldn't walk. This big seven foot three motherfucker was fucked.

458
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: And then on that same night, he was alone. He

459
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: wasn't with a therapist, he wasn't with the doctor. He

460
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: was all by himself, and he got this chick and

461
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Speaker 1: he raped her. I don't know, I don't know, but

462
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: this is a serious allegation. It's being taken serious. The

463
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Speaker 1: District Attorney of New York is involved, the federal authorities

464
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Speaker 1: are involved. At the New York Police Department Special Victim

465
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Speaker 1: you didn't is involved, and all this stuff, and and uh,

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Speaker 1: the one thing that I'm curious about is did the

467
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Speaker 1: Knicks know about this when they traded him? Because a

468
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Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, these things are looming, these

469
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Speaker 1: things are kept under wraps. You know, there's this woman,

470
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: she's making a case and blah blah blah blah blah,

471
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Speaker 1: she might accuse him of this. And you know, the Knicks,

472
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: this is a big corporation. Uh, and they could have

473
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: gotten a word that this was gonna go down, and

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Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, let's get rid of them before

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Speaker 1: we have to deal with any of this. Uh, the

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00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: Knicks can't have any bad press. Uh, this guy doesn't

477
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Speaker 1: want to be here. Let's trade him. I I wonder

478
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Speaker 1: this just me. I don't know anything. I didn't hear anything,

479
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: but a lot of times you'll hear. Oh yeah, they

480
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Speaker 1: knew about this two months before it came out. YadA

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Speaker 1: YadA fucking YadA podka. Speaking of YadA fucking YadA, bell View, Washington,

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Speaker 1: up there near Seattle, up there near Toronto, in bell View, Washington,

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Speaker 1: I am coming up there to do four shows at

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Speaker 1: Parlor Live in Bellevue, Washington. Tickets are available now at

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Speaker 1: parlor live dot com Friday April twenty seven thirty and

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Speaker 1: April seven thirty and a ten p m show. You

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Speaker 1: guys up in Portland's you guys in that area, Come

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Speaker 1: see me perform live, big body shows, headlining, doing the

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Speaker 1: damn thing. I'm gonna be on the stage for a

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Speaker 1: four shows total. Come see me parlor live dot com.

494
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Speaker 1: Comedy is a trip. Comedians are a fucking trip. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

496
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna start naming names yet. But some of

497
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: these fucking comedians, with their fucking bullshit and the player

498
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: hating and all that ship I got to. I got

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Speaker 1: too so far trying to disrespect, trying to play your

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Speaker 1: hate to not one but two motherfucker's. I got you,

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Speaker 1: I got you, motherfucker's. Don't worry. You can't stop the dingo,

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Speaker 1: though cannot stop Mr new York, You cannot stop Mr

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Speaker 1: two one two, You play your hating twenty seven years

504
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Speaker 1: in motherfucking comedy. Why are you worrying about me? Why

505
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Speaker 1: are you worrying about the gringo man dingo? I know

506
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm being vague, but at a certain point, you know,

507
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: I'll start blowing people up. I will start fucking blowing

508
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Speaker 1: people up. I'm hyped already to come to New York

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Speaker 1: City October seventeenth, October eighteenth and October ninete at Carolines.

510
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Speaker 1: I've never done stand I did stand up comedy one

511
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Speaker 1: time in my life, in nineteen eighty nine, nineteen, in

512
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Speaker 1: June of nine, I did stand up comedy one time

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Speaker 1: in New York City, Okay, two thousand, nineteen, October seventeen, Friday,

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Speaker 1: October eighteenth, and Saturday, October nineteenth, I will be making

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Speaker 1: my mother fucking debut on Broadway Carolines on Broadway. They

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Speaker 1: call it America's premier comedy nightclub. Tickets are available now

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Speaker 1: at Carolines Dot come eighteenth and the nineteenth. YO, I'm

518
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Speaker 1: not fucking around, Okay, when I come to New York,

519
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: when I come to Bellevue, Washington, I am not fucking around.

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00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm loving doing it. And I appreciate all the fans

521
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Speaker 1: that came out to Oxnard, California, Ontario, California, and Irvine,

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Speaker 1: California the last few weeks that came to see the shows. Um,

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00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: I know I didn't get to say hello to everybody.

524
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: I got to say hello to a lot of people,

525
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Speaker 1: but you know, so be it. Fuck. But I'm really

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Speaker 1: enjoying doing it, and um, I'm having a good time

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Speaker 1: at it. So UM, we started a Typical Season three.

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Speaker 1: We just started shooting season three of a Typical, which uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about. UM. I have no idea when the

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Speaker 1: show will actually air. I would guess sometime in the fall,

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Speaker 1: probably September October at the latest. Um, but we just

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00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: started shooting, so I have no clue. We're the last

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Speaker 1: ones to find out. Well, actually we're the first ones

534
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: to find out when they announced it. I'm sure they

535
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: have an idea, um, but it was cool to get started.

536
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: It's funny when you do a show for three seasons

537
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: and it's been like three and a half years that

538
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: we've been shooting a show, you just kinda go prepare

539
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: and you fall right back into it. Um like the

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00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: character and the people and everybody's rhythms and the beat

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Speaker 1: of a set, because every every set, uh that you

542
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 1: go to as an actor is different. Uh. There's different energy,

543
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: there's different pacing, there's different uh volumes. You know, sometimes

544
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: you got loud people, Uh, sometimes you got real quie.

545
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: This is more of a quiet set. I'm probably the

546
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: loudest motherfucker on the set. Now, you wise guys might say, oh,

547
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: you're probably the loudest motherfucker on every set. That's not true.

548
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: That is not true. Sometimes there are a d s,

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00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: there are directors, there are other actors that are even

550
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: louder than me, the gringo man dingo. But I'm hyped,

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00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm excited, uh to be working on season three of

552
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: the show. Um. It's good people, it's fun and I'm

553
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: proud of the show. If you haven't seen Uh Atypical, Uh,

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00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: Seasons one and seasons two are available all at Netflix

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Speaker 1: exclusively at Netflix. Miles Jordan's what I need now is

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Speaker 1: the sick Fuck of the Week. So this is an

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Speaker 1: called the sick the Fox of the He's sick, really

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Speaker 1: are you doing? Hey, man, leave that chicken alone? Leave

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Speaker 1: the chicken alone? What are you doing to the chicken

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Speaker 1: that doesn't belong in a chicken? Yes? There it is? Oh, yes,

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Speaker 1: there it's is. You are now listening to the sick

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Speaker 1: the Week is earned, not given. It is earned, not given.

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Speaker 1: did the French say it's uh? They use a word,

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Speaker 1: it's a certain. I'm not I'm not good with French,

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Speaker 1: but it's a it's a certain. Oh yeah, a certain

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Speaker 1: genes aqua Uh. This is an award winning segment By

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Speaker 1: to you by me and the good people at the

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Speaker 1: I m rapp Aboard Stereo podcast. Let's jump into it.

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Speaker 1: A disgusting, filthy, sloppy, dirty Manhattan dentist with a an

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Speaker 1: appetite and in a disposition for child porn and crystal meth. Yes,

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Speaker 1: imagine your dentist is whacked out on child porn and

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Speaker 1: crystal meth and you're in there talking about, Yo, doc,

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Speaker 1: can you fix my cavity? Yo? Doc? Can to pull

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Speaker 1: his fucking tooth. It's hurt me. And the dentist is

583
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: hopped up on crystal meth. Okay, right there in Manhattan,

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00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: doctor disgusting doctor dentist John Wolfe had over six hundred

585
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: images and two hundred videos of disturbing, sick, unimaginal child porn.

586
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: He was also hopped up and arrested for being on meth.

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Speaker 1: Apparently his meth dealer ratted him out. Listen, dentist, dentist,

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Speaker 1: Dr wolf You fucking you, you, you scumbag. You listen.

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Speaker 1: You shouldn't be digging in people's mouth, Okay, you're a dentist.

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Speaker 1: You're on meth. Let me see your teeth, because that's

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Speaker 1: what goes first with meth addicts. That is exactly what

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Speaker 1: goes first with meth addicts. I don't want to meth addicted.

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Speaker 1: And this fucking with my teeth, Let me see your teeth. Doc.

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Speaker 1: This sick fuck was sentenced to ten years in prison

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Speaker 1: for child porn and various other charges. Yes, you sick.

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Speaker 1: Fuck you. Krispy Kreme. I'm not funking with you anymore.

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Speaker 1: Krispy Kreme, I am not fucking with you anymore. Panera

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Speaker 1: Bread all that. The family that owns Krispy Kreme Doughnuts,

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Speaker 1: Panera Bread, preada manager and fucking Einstein Brothers. You know

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Speaker 1: those bullshit bagels, the Einstein brother bagels. I hope you

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Speaker 1: guys know better than to ever buy an Einstein bagel.

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Speaker 1: Even before this, but the German family that owns those companies,

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Speaker 1: those stores has finally come clean, has finally admitted about

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Speaker 1: their reported connection to the Nazis. And the guy said

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Speaker 1: it's all correct. Yes, there's nothing to gloss over. We

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Speaker 1: have connection to those crimes, and you fox got the

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Speaker 1: nerve to sell fucking bagels you Nazi cos. We've been

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Speaker 1: buying bagels from Nazis. We've been buying donuts from people

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Speaker 1: that are associated to the Nazis. They've been trying to

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Speaker 1: hide it. Now listen, I know it's a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. You should have came clean about this

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Speaker 1: long ago. You fuck you tried to hide it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we caught you, your Nazi cock sucker, and I'm never

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Speaker 1: ever fucking with Crispy Cream, Panera, Bread prett I'm manager,

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Speaker 1: and Einstein Brothers bagels the funk out of here. Man.

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Speaker 1: It was a three year investigation, okay, that tied these

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Speaker 1: family together. They got I mean, terrible times to the Nazis.

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Speaker 1: Now they're saying they want to donate eleven million dollars

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Speaker 1: to an undisclosed charity in response to what happened. Fuck

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Speaker 1: your money, Duke, we don't want your money. We don't

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Speaker 1: want your bullshit bagels. And fuck Krispy Creme Donuts. I'm

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Speaker 1: going back to Dunkin Donuts if I ever fun with

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Speaker 1: donuts anyway. But if you see a Krispy Creme Donuts,

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Speaker 1: keep it moving. You might as well get yourself some

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Speaker 1: Twinkies or some hostess cupcakes, multi award winning sick fuck.

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Speaker 1: I believe this guy has won sick fuck of the

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Speaker 1: Week twice. This is an international six fuck. You know

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Speaker 1: Alex Jones, Mr info Wars, Mr Sandy Hook, Uh massacre, Uh,

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Speaker 1: the guy who said that Sandy Hook massacre was fake

630
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: and all that ship. Mr Conspiracy theorist, Mr. I I

631
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: think on on a different plane. This cocksucker came out

632
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: and said, Uh, he's saying no because no one will,

633
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: no one will do business with him. He's off for

634
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: social media. They kicked him off of Twitter. I believe

635
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: they kicked him off a you tube that kicked them

636
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: off of Facebook. This guy was going around saying that

637
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: the Sandy Hook shootings at the elementary school in Newton,

638
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: Connecticut was a giant hoax carried out by crisis actors

639
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: and so forth and so on. Well, this piece of

640
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: ship is now claiming that at the time when he

641
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: was saying these certain things and talking about these certain events,

642
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: it was a form of psychosis. No shit, asshole, Too late, sorry, asshole,

643
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: he said. And I quote, and I can't stand quote

644
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: in this freak. I have all I've had a form

645
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: of psychosis back in the past where I basically thought

646
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 1: everything was stage Duke, I don't give a fuck. Okay,

647
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: I get that you're a pundant and all that stuff.

648
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: There's one thing to be a pundent, and it's one

649
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: thing to be a cynical and all that stuff. You

650
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: don't get that pass. Sorry, asshole. Sorry, And if it

651
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: was a form of psycho hostis, let me see some

652
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: doctor paperwork. And even if the doctor says that don't matter,

653
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: you're still a scumbag. O can't you can't be trusted.

654
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: How do we know you're not gonna fall into some

655
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: other psychosis. Sorry, you're not getting back on Twitter, Duke.

656
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: You're not getting back on YouTube. Nobody's fucking with you.

657
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: The things that would that you said are unforgivable. You

658
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: didn't need to tell us that you were psychotic. Motherfucker

659
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: for saying those things you're saying. And now, because it

660
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: ain't sweet, what were you hopped up on? What were

661
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: you hopped up on? Shame on you, motherfucker too late. Sorry,

662
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: Alex Jones. Now this is the third time you made

663
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: it onto the sick funck of the Week on the

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Speaker 1: I Am Rapp Reports Stereo podcast. You're welcome Florida. Is

665
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: Florida in the house. I told you. Later on in

666
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: the show, we have Mr Florida himself, Billy Corbin, guys

667
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: made so many document he knows about the degenerative disease

668
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 1: of the sick funck in Florida more than anybody coming

669
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: up later on My guy, Billy Corbin in Florida, a

670
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: teacher Mr. Zunga Aaron Zunga, a teacher at a private school,

671
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: is accused of having sex with a student. This is

672
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: a male having sex with a female student after putting

673
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: his baby down for a nap. Yes, in Jacksonville, Florida,

674
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: Trinity Christian Academy. This piece of ship was having sex

675
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: with miners. He was having sex with miners while his

676
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: baby was in his house. He's been fired, he's gotten arrested,

677
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: and he's probably gonna go to jail. And you know

678
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: what happens to people that have sex with underage girls

679
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: in jail? Yes, the wonderbread bag and the olive oil treatment. Uh.

680
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: In Ohio, a couple, a couple of loving couple, they

681
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: weren't even married. A loving couple was out at a carnival.

682
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: You know, one of these traveling carnivals. Uh. Michael Matheson

683
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: and Lauren Wilder were arrested a few days ago six

684
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: p m. Okay on a ferris wheel, the sky Star Wheel. Okay,

685
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: at the Great American ball Park in Cincinnati. These two

686
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: were fucking on the ferris wheel. They were fucking on

687
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 1: the ferris wheel. Okay while kids, children watched, adults videotaped them.

688
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: Six p m. That's damn near broad day. Like, get

689
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: a room, sickos, I'm kinky, I'm erotic too, but control yourself, animal,

690
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: control your fucking self. Back to Florida. We are back

691
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: to Florida. A Florida man accused of killing a couple

692
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: and attacking their neighbor believed he believed that he was

693
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: half man, half dog. What kind of dog did you

694
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: think you were? A duke? Uh? He was discovered by

695
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: authorities in his home biting and ripping into the male

696
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: victims face. How is this guy not shot? When the

697
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: police come and they see you biting uh and chewing

698
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: somebody's face and they can't defend themselves, why don't they

699
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: shoot this fucking guy? This guy is saying that you

700
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: know this was that bath sult, you know this was

701
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: that good bath Salt Austin horror Hoff whatever his name

702
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: is, is is facing murder charges and the deaths of Michelle

703
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: mich Sean and John Stevens, as well as attempted murder

704
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 1: murder for allegedly attacking the couple's daughter. This is a sickle.

705
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: This is a sickle. You know. He he killed people

706
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: with his bare hands, and then he was trying to

707
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: eat them, biting him, chewing him. He was he was.

708
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: They threatened to shoot him and taste him. They should

709
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: have threatened. I mean, they shouldn't have threatened. They should

710
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: have shot him or at least taste him. Apparently the

711
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: cops kicked him in the head. They couldn't stop this motherfucker.

712
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: And if you see him, I gotta be honest. This

713
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: guy don't look like your everyday sick funk of the week.

714
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: It looks kind of weird. But when you're hopped up

715
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,959
Speaker 1: on that good good, anything is possible. You feel no pain.

716
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: And finally, in Alaska, this video. I got a lot

717
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: of requests for this. This is this is terrible. UM

718
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: surveillance video in Alaska. Uh to sick fox A father

719
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: and son sick fuck a record on surveillance video. UM

720
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: captured the father and son kill a black bear. They

721
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: used handguns these fox One of the guys had his

722
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: shirt off, the other guy was on skis. I don't

723
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: know what these people were doing. They had to be

724
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: hopped up on something. Uh. They shot and killed a

725
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: black bear and her newborn cubs for no reason. What

726
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: do you get out of this? Shot and killed a

727
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: bear and her newborn cubs and then boasted about getting

728
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: away with the cruel act. Well, sorry, assholes. The whole

729
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: thing was caught on video. Owen Renner eighteen and his

730
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: dumb fucking father, Andrew Renter, are seen in the videotape

731
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 1: shooting them, then dragging the bears out, and then celebrating

732
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: high fiving where you got locked up, dumb fuck, You're

733
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: shooting and killing bears. You're celebrating that you're never coming

734
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: out of prison. Okay, hopefully, hopefully your jail cell, your

735
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: jail cell mate will be an animal lover. Okay, Owen

736
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: Renter and dad Andrew Renner, and then you guys will

737
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: get dragged out. You guys will be man handled. These

738
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: guys were bragging, don't funk around, don't funk with me.

739
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: They were so hyped that they killed a black but

740
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: they looked like they were on that meth. And they're

741
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: in the snow there, they have no shirts and these

742
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: people are definitely fucking crazy and they are definitely I

743
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: am Rapports Stereo Podcast Sick Fox of the Week. All right,

744
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: what can I say? All Right, here we are. I

745
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: told you, Mr Miami, Mr Florida. This guy has made

746
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: a career off of finding, exposing, discussing all things Florida.

747
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: So many sick Fox coming up next. Filmmaker, director of

748
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: Cocaine Cowboys, director of The U, director of Dog Fight,

749
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: director of the new film that really throws Alex Rodriguez

750
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: under the bus, Screwball. I've been a fan of this

751
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: guy's for a long time. Really good filmmaker, all about Florida,

752
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: all about the sick Fox in Florida. Coming up next,

753
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: talking about all his films and his new film Screwball,

754
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: the reality of Alex Rodriguez, steroid involvement, and so much more.

755
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: Coming up next on the Iron Wrap for Stereo podcast.

756
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: My interview with my guy Billy Corbin. All right, my man,

757
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: Billy Corbin, so let's jump into this. So, since you

758
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: are Mr Florida, I need you, Mr Florida a k a.

759
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: Billy Corbin, to tell me what are the three most

760
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: sketchy parts sketchy areas in the entire state of Florida.

761
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: Let me tell you the one that you probably least expect,

762
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: but Orlando, home of Walt disney World. First of all,

763
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: we live in a Florida's peninsula, so which means it's

764
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 1: surrounded on three sides at least by nearly all sides

765
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: by water short of an island, and you're an hour

766
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: away from the beach when you're in Orlando. Why the

767
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: funk would you be in a peninsula an hour away

768
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: from the beach. People don't settle. It's a swamp, is

769
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: what it is. They drain the swamp and built, you know,

770
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: the happiest place on earth. But it's shady as fuck.

771
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: And the only reason it's there is because basically Walt

772
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: Disney found a place where he could just buy the place.

773
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: When I say by the place, I mean have his

774
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: own government, his own laws, his own rules. Because it

775
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: was in the literally in the middle of nowhere. Nobody

776
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: wanted to be there, so we invented this fictitious place.

777
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: That's thing about Florida. The whole story of Florida is

778
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: lies that came true. You know, real estate hustlers who

779
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: were like, you know, by this lot of land for

780
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: twenty dollars down and twenty dollars a month till you're

781
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: ready to retire, have your own Florida dream. It was

782
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: a fucking swamp. It was nothing. And then eventually the

783
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: the Army Corps of Engineers did find a way to

784
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: tame God basically and drain the swamp. And these are

785
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: lies that came true. I mean, it's amazing. You know,

786
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: we have a we have a city called North Miami Beach.

787
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: Ain't no beach at North Miami Beach. I think it

788
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: might be the only city in the country with beach

789
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: in the name where there ain't no beach. Okay, yeah,

790
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: there's there's maybe a manmade lake with some crocodiles in it,

791
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: but there's no beach. And that was designed to basically

792
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: full servicemen who served during World War Two, where you

793
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: have wait, a military base, right and what's now bal

794
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: Harbor home to like one of the most expensive and

795
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: exclusive shopping malls in the world. But there was a

796
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: military base in World War two and they were looking

797
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: for fucking U boats and Germans coming off off the

798
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: coast on the Atlantic, and then they went back to

799
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: wherever they wore in Middle America, and then they suddenly

800
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: started to see ads or they'd be like a table

801
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: at a shop as some you know, some Midwestern shopping mall,

802
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: like twenty dollars down, twenty dollars a month, you know,

803
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: a month for the rest of your life, till you're

804
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: ready to retire, and then you come down, have you

805
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: a lot of land to build your Florida dream you know,

806
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: retirement dream house. And it was just lies we sold,

807
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: We sell sunshine. That's the thing about Florida's is that.

808
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 1: And that's what Orlando is. Orlando is like the perfect lie.

809
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: It's safe, it's happy. Come down here on our fake

810
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: beach at the Disney Hotel and your kid gets eaten

811
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: by an alligator. For Christ's sake, that's not a beach.

812
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: It's a ship lake with man eating creatures in it.

813
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: And people come in from out of town they think, Wow,

814
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: we're in Florida. It's the beach. Let your kid play

815
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: on the seashore. Seashore and what do you talk? It's

816
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: and and and shady ship goes down there. I mean

817
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: for a while, Um, the word was it was Disney

818
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 1: lobbying that kept this from happening, because they're the most

819
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: powerful lobbying force in the state of Florida's you can

820
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: imagine one of the you know, certainly the biggest job

821
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,959
Speaker 1: creator and revenue generator in the state. And we don't

822
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: have a state income tax, so we gotta we got

823
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 1: we subsist from hustle to hustle, right our side hustles

824
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: got side hustles in Florida. And so the Orlando they

825
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 1: could not build, for example, a rape crisis center because

826
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: they didn't want to send a message that people get

827
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: raped in Orlando. So they couldn't even help victims because

828
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: they didn't want that would well, that would mean to

829
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: crime happens here. It's of course, and and because there's

830
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: so many tourists and so much tourists money coming in,

831
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: crime happens left and right. I mean, you come in

832
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: from out of town, you gotta target on your back.

833
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: In Florida, that's when they stopped back in the day.

834
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: You remember, rental cars had bumper stickers in the back.

835
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: Said Alamo said whatever, right, So in Florida, we started

836
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: having tourists who were getting killed just for exiting the

837
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: wrong hot you know, the wrong exit off the highway.

838
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: And so the first thing it did was got rid

839
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: of the bumper stickers to try to say you couldn't

840
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: tell right, you know, straight away that these were out

841
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: of towners. And then they started putting Sun icons this

842
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: is back in the nineties on the exit signs on

843
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: the highway, so you would know that was a safe

844
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: exit if you were from out of town. Follow the

845
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: Sun and so you weren't exiting in some of the

846
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: rougher neighborhoods like Liberty City or over Town or places

847
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: where these these mostly German tourists, sadly we're getting we're

848
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: getting killed, shot and killed. There's a whole rash of that. Yeah,

849
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: and those are some of the the neighbor you know, like

850
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: Liberty City, Optimist Warriors were Uncle Luke shout out to

851
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: Uncle Luke represents uh and and um. That's considered one

852
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: of the more dangerous parts of town. But I wouldn't

853
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: call it shady because we have neighbors neighborhoods like that

854
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: all over all over the country. It's just the hood,

855
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: but it's working class people That's the thing too, is

856
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: they just released to study the United Way. That said six,

857
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: that's six zero six of residents in Miami Dade County

858
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: cannot afford to make ends meet. So of these are

859
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: that or the working force? These people who have minimum

860
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: one job. How shady is the city of Miami. Remember

861
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: so Miami Dade County is thirty four municipalities. That's shady

862
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: in and of itself. This ship is like it's a

863
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: game of Thrones in Paradise with slightly fewer dragons. That's

864
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: what Miami's like. Everybody's got their fiefdom. That means thirty

865
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: four mayors. That's almost thirty four different police departments. Okay,

866
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: you who drive up, down, left, right, sideways in this

867
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: fucking town for hours, l ap D pulls you over.

868
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: That's the way it goes. I drive. I commute from

869
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: like the North Miami area to the Miami Beach to

870
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: Miami Beach where our offices every day. UM on a

871
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: good day, it's not a long drive to be twenty

872
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: five minutes with with with no traffic less than ten miles.

873
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: Depending on what route I take, I can get pulled

874
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: over by any one of six different police departments. It's

875
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: all fiefdom. You gonna see which flag is flying before

876
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: you get into a road rage incident, you know. And

877
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: it's just because of that, it becomes this very we

878
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: self segregate, and so nobody gives a shit about anybody

879
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: else because I'm in this little municipality, this little place.

880
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: So the city of Miami itself, which is obviously the

881
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: most famous, you know, of the of the cities, is

882
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: also one of the poorest cities in America. When you

883
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: look at City of Miami and um and we have

884
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 1: a government that is just like it's like a banana republic.

885
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: It's like a third world country. And I'm not if

886
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: you want to just go online and watch the city

887
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: Commission meeting, it's just crazy, Like you'll be like, what

888
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: the fuck, how does this government function? And it doesn't.

889
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: It would be like if you went now to Miami

890
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: to buy a house or open a business or make

891
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: an investment, you gotta be out of your mind. That

892
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 1: would be like that would be like opening a business

893
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: in Caracas. It's an unstable regime. It's like an unstable government,

894
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 1: and Miami is as a city and it's a shame

895
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,959
Speaker 1: because there are great people there. They're hard working people there,

896
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: but they can't afford to live there, and their government

897
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: doesn't give a ship about poor people. And that's not new,

898
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: that's true. Rewear okay, cocaine cowboys in my In my documentaries,

899
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: I never try to interview people associated with crime. That's

900
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: just me, especially people that are associated with crime and Florida.

901
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: How do you get to these people? How do you

902
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: track these people down to get them to talk on film? Well,

903
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: it kind of helps living in that environment. I'm a

904
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: native Fluoridian and a lifelong Miami and and so you know,

905
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: one of my like my pastimes in Miami. I'm not

906
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: like a South Beach nightclub guy. I don't like the

907
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: trendy ship. I like dive bars. That's what I like. Um,

908
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: real places with real people, that's all. So one of

909
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: my favorite things to do is just like go to

910
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: this just this, you know, this skieziest bar. Just grab

911
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: a stool at the bar next to the just like

912
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: the crustiest I'm talking about, like a fucking barnacle, you know,

913
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: just like growing on a dock, like that kind of guy,

914
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, um who looks like he just was born

915
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: in this bar and has been there ever since, and

916
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: just strike up a conversation, and in Miami, invariably he'll

917
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: wind up having just and released from prison. Maybe he

918
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: is a deposed Third world dictator who fled his country.

919
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: You just strike up a conversation and you're like, I'm

920
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: in the midst of a podcast right now, I'm making

921
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: a documentary. It's just the thing, you know, I always say,

922
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: it's an old saying. I'm fond of that. L A

923
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: is where you go when you want to be somebody.

924
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: New York is where you go when you are somebody,

925
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: and Miami's where you go when you want to be

926
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: somebody else. Okay, but tell me about Cocaine Cowboys specifically.

927
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: How did that film come about and how did you

928
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: get to those different lists of people in this film? Well,

929
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: that was like our childhood, you know. It was was

930
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: growing up as kids going like, what the hell is

931
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: happening in this community. I grew up in a working

932
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: class North Miami Beach and um this Highland Lakes, Highland

933
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: Gardens area, and um, not far from the Miami Dolphins

934
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: played just east of there. Um, you look around and

935
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: very few people, very few people that I was aware of.

936
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: It still to this day, we're in the drug business.

937
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: But everybody was doing well. Everybody had a toy, a

938
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: portion the driveway, adding a second story to the house,

939
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: fixing up the pool, you know, getting a slide. Put

940
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: it just like fun ship. And what it was is

941
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: that it was. I say that Miami during the cocaine

942
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: boom is the only successful case study of Reagan's trickle

943
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: down economics because there was so much money being generated

944
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: that it trickled down into every legitimate industry, into real estate,

945
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: into infrastructure. So whatever you did for a living, legit

946
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: sold cars, sold jewelry. We're a grosser. That's what I remember.

947
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: I don't remember the drugs because I was a kid,

948
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: but I remember the affluence, and I remembered the violence,

949
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: like there was my parents were scared, you know what

950
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean. We you know, we had the alarm system,

951
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: we had they built a guardgate in our neighborhood. Like

952
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: people started to get concerned about the violence and and

953
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: and and the crime. Um that's what I remember. And

954
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: so we were were always curious about that era and

955
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: this hypothesis of did the drug boom helped to build

956
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: the city as we know it and love it? Today

957
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: and or look, no one love to hate it today,

958
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: and so we were always curious about that. But then

959
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: it came down to, like you said, access, that's what documentary,

960
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: that's whatever. That's not what you know, it's who you know.

961
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: You know, that's what life is all about. Access, access

962
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: to what anything, people, distribution, equipment, a story, character, as

963
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: you name it. So I literally get a call from

964
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: my second cousin who's like, Bill, you ever hear this

965
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: guy John Roberts, And I was like John Roberts. He's like, uh,

966
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: let me ask Alfred my producing more. You often you

967
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: hear about, you know, John Purnell Roberts. As he goes,

968
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, he was in the book Man Who

969
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: Made It Snow by Max Mermelstein, who was the snitch

970
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: that flipped on everybody in the Median cartel. But I'm like, yay, yeah,

971
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, why you asked cousin Dave. Cousin. Dave's like,

972
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: because I'm at the pool in my condo and Aventura

973
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: and I'm chatting with him. He's a neighbor of mine.

974
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying, Like, this is just in Miami.

975
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: It's it's sucking, like six degrees of shady people, you know.

976
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: And so we meet with the guy. He introduces us

977
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: to Mickey Monday, the pilot, remember the red yacht with

978
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: long hair. And we just got ruled like this is

979
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: the story we've been like, it's on the bucket list,

980
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, the project list, and and now we had

981
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: these interesting guy used to tell it in the first person.

982
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: That's our thing too, is that we named the company

983
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: Rack and Tour. But I one of the proposed names

984
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: of our company from me was the first person productions.

985
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,959
Speaker 1: It's all about I and we, not they in heat.

986
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: Of course his mouth maybe that they want to hear

987
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: about the people who lived it and experienced it, I

988
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: and we not they in heat. So when we finally

989
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: got the I and we were like, oh ship, we

990
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 1: started rolling. We started writing hit Men in Prison as

991
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: you do penn palelling, and started to get some responses

992
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: and wound up, you know, hooking up with these cops

993
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: and these lawyers and these journalists going into prison. Um.

994
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: The Florida Department of Corrections was very cooperative and with

995
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: our crew and and went in and interviewed jge rivi Iala,

996
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: the hit man. I think three or four different times,

997
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: Umo on, Cameron off and Uh, to me, cooking Cowboys

998
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: is a mosaic and all of these different people and

999
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: characters talking about their first person experience in Miami in

1000
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: that era, whether they were uh, they were you know, traffickers, wholesalers, journalists,

1001
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: cop killers, um, they're all individual tiles. And then when

1002
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: you zoom out, they have formed downtown Miami, know, and

1003
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: this this mosaic of downtown Miami. And that's what we

1004
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: wanted to do. I think with a lot of filmmakers

1005
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: sort of like especially in Doctor like we call like

1006
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: micro macro Like, yeah, the micro is these individual people

1007
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: telling their first person experiences. But the macro is what's

1008
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: it really about. It's really about how this industry, this

1009
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: illicit trade, built a city built in American city. And

1010
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, they say, the great thing about Miami is

1011
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: it's so close to the United States, all right. So

1012
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: for for the people that you meet and that you

1013
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: deal with while you're making a film, how do you

1014
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: detach how do you deal with that? How do I

1015
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: deal with it constantly? I deal with it constantly. It's

1016
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: part of the job. And when you're a documentary filmmaker,

1017
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: it's because you're you are curious about people, and you

1018
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: love to tell stories, but you also more importantly love

1019
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: to hear stories. Uh and and so it's just part

1020
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: of the territory. And I'm in touch with people from

1021
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: our very first documentary to this day. You know, you

1022
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: call them characters, and I call them characters too, but

1023
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: they're real people. So it's like it's the answer is,

1024
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: it's very difficult and in and in many cases often

1025
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: impossible to detach yourself completely from those people. Uh and

1026
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: and it's not that bad. So what was the last

1027
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: time you got a call from a criminal? From cocaine cowboys?

1028
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: Last week was that we had opening night of our

1029
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: play that I wrote co wrote called Confessions of a

1030
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: Cocaine Cowboy in Miami Beach and Griselle de Blanco, the

1031
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: Godmother La Madina, her son Michael Corleone Sepulvida was there

1032
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: with his wife with his new wife. At the premiere,

1033
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: we got the guy Yancey areas if if people watch

1034
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: um uh Queen of the South on USA, he was

1035
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: like the evil Mexican general for a couple of seasons,

1036
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: but you got whacked spoiler alert. Uh And he's brilliant

1037
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: he's plays Rivy the Hitman, and it's like this dark

1038
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: comedy and it's I wrote it with this guy Orange Squire,

1039
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,479
Speaker 1: who's a TV where he was on the first season

1040
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: of This Is Us. He's now on CBS is The

1041
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: Good Fight, and he's written thirty plays originally from Miami.

1042
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: And I'm I've always wanted to do this because when

1043
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: we first research Cocaine Cowboys, the first thing I got,

1044
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: um My Bruising partners went to like Central Florida and

1045
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: and got this deposition was seven volumes thirt hundred pages

1046
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: of Riviaala and Jorge rival of the hit Man. And

1047
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: I was reading this thing, and I went to New

1048
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: World School the Arts, which is modeled after the New

1049
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: York School of the Performing Arts, and um that's where

1050
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: Terrell McCraney, who won the Oscar for Moonlight, the Screenwriter,

1051
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: where he went to high school. My claim to fame.

1052
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: By the way, now this is gonna be on my

1053
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: two I thought Cocaine Cowboys and that you were gonna

1054
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: be on my tombstone. But now Terrell reminded me of

1055
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: this that I was the only person at New World

1056
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: who would drive him home to Liberty City because everybody

1057
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: else was like, my parents won't let me drive in

1058
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: that neighbor. My parents didn't know where the hell I was.

1059
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: And and when I got my car and going to

1060
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,919
Speaker 1: New World, kids from all over the county went there.

1061
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: So it opened up the fucking map for me. I

1062
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: was driving everywhere, and he would dride his bike home

1063
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: from fucking downtown Miami to Liberty City and dangerous, and

1064
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, get in the car. And I

1065
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: didn't remember. I mean, I remember driving him home, but

1066
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: it was only in recent years where he mentioned that, like,

1067
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: you were the only guy who would drive me home delivered.

1068
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, now I gotta claim to fame, all right.

1069
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: So for your latest film, Screwball, how do you avoid

1070
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: getting lawsuit? Since it's about Major League Baseball and big

1071
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: time players like Alex Rodriguez and more importantly, how do

1072
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: I avoid interviewing you? And I don't want to get sued.

1073
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: It's all true and truth is absolute defense defamation. I mean,

1074
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: we told the truth, and I'll tell you. I've been

1075
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: making the documentaries now for christ about twenty years, and

1076
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: Screwball as ridiculous as it is, as farcical as it is,

1077
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: as absurd and hilarious as it is, it is all true,

1078
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: and it is our most meticulously researched documentary ever, in

1079
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: no small part because we're dealing with some very powerful,

1080
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: healthy and litigious people in both Major League Baseball and

1081
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: Alex Rodriguez, both of whom spent untold millions duking it

1082
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 1: out with each other, you know, back in when this

1083
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: scandal exploded, and so we wore meticulous We went out

1084
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: and we obtained uh, sworn testimony under oath testimony transcripts

1085
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: that had never been released to the public, so we

1086
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: could cross check some of the crazy ship that people

1087
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: were telling us, just to confirm that it was, that

1088
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: it was accurate, and so that that's what I said,

1089
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: I'd say, I would say, uh, you know, so when

1090
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: you were making screwbol do you look at what footage

1091
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: is available beforehand? Like b roll In interviews, There was

1092
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: a lot of information, but there was not a ton

1093
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,439
Speaker 1: of footage. Yeah, there was some archive ship about the scale,

1094
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: you know, when the scandal broke itself, but there was

1095
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: not a ton of stuff. There was a lot of

1096
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: archive news stuff about the scandal itself once it broke.

1097
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: But remember the part of the story that we're telling,

1098
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: it's sort of not about all the famous people necessarily,

1099
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: it's the shadier parts with the sort of unknown characters.

1100
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: You know, these like Elmore Leonard, Karl Hyacin esque or

1101
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: even Cohen Brothers esque kind of botched heist movie that

1102
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: we were telling. I don't want to get too far

1103
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves in the story, but I but I

1104
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: will say that to answer your process questions, is a

1105
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: really good question that I that I that I don't

1106
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: get asked very often. Um, it's like it's really the

1107
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: it's the it's the clear extra music. It's like which

1108
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: came first. And the answer is almost like sort of, well,

1109
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: everything happens at the same when you're inspired, you know

1110
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: what all just happens. And it's kind of I don't

1111
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: want to give an asshole answer like that, but like

1112
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: it's kind of like that where, UM, you know, you

1113
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: you gotta do research and advance because you've got to

1114
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: prep for interviews, so you gotta be asking smart questions

1115
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: and the right questions and obviously teeing up footage that

1116
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: you know exists, um as opposed to, like you said,

1117
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: teeing up footage that might not exist. Then they're like,

1118
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: oh fuck, there's no there's no footage of this. UM.

1119
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: But it's a little bit of both in that. Then

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01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: we go into we do this the you know, kind

1121
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: of the preliminary research. Then you go into an an interview,

1122
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: and then we do a radio cut. So really we're

1123
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: letting the characters tell the story. And Knockwood to date

1124
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: never used the narrator in any of our docs. It's

1125
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: only been told by the people. You know, what what

1126
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: we get is what we got, and it's only told

1127
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: by those people in the first person, and so that

1128
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: becomes there are techniques to ensure that you you get

1129
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: what you need and that that's a whole other process issue.

1130
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 1: But here we use their words to kind of right

1131
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: the script, and that want to write the documentary UM

1132
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: using their words, and we do this what we call

1133
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: a radio cut, because all the talking heads lined up

1134
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: UM with them just telling the story, and then we

1135
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: start to cut that, you know, to to uh chisel

1136
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: that way, craft that and then start adding the b roll,

1137
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: some of which we knew existed and are prepared for

1138
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: because we asked them questions about it. UM. In the

1139
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 1: case of Tony Bosh, he gave this hilarious, like shady,

1140
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: sketchy interview with Pedro Gomez, the baseball reporter for esp

1141
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,879
Speaker 1: right outside of Monts which is this famous old school

1142
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: dock side dining place down by Miami City Hall. And

1143
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: like this is in the midst of like everybody was

1144
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: trying to the scandal blew up. Everybody wants to find

1145
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: this fake doctor and find out if he treated these

1146
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: guys and everything, and so they kind of stage this, Okay,

1147
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: you'll come out of the bar and I'll be here

1148
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 1: waiting with the camera. And so we knew that foot

1149
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: We had the raw footage of that, so we're like, oh, shoot,

1150
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 1: we gotta ask them about that obviously, because we're gonna

1151
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: do We're gonna craft this whole segment around that. So

1152
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: we we knew, and then some of the stuff comes

1153
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 1: in later and like, oh ship, this is a cool bite.

1154
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: This is a cool piece of archive. But ultimately what

1155
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: we had in this movie. So you mentioned the U

1156
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: thirt th So you've done sportstocks, you've done music docs.

1157
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: I don't want to begrudge anyone's hustle because docks are

1158
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: hard to do, but I will say with sports docks,

1159
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: it's a little bit more of a formula, a little

1160
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: bit more paint by numbers. I mean, you interview some

1161
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: sports guys, they talk about some sports stuff and some

1162
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,759
Speaker 1: sports games. You go good footage of the sports games

1163
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: and you integrate the sports game for with the sports

1164
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: guys talking. It's we played. We played the Gators. You

1165
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: know this bowl and boom, you showed your cut to

1166
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: the game. I scored this touchdown, I fumbled the ball

1167
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: here you show the fucking footage. That's how that's how

1168
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 1: the game is played. So here we got these shady

1169
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: dudes in you know, fake doctor's clinics at Live nightclub

1170
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: in fucking Fountain Blue Hotel and Mimbie Beach at the

1171
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: Ritz Carl as he said, and keep his skaing this

1172
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: sports bar over here, this locker room over here, this

1173
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: hotel over here. There's no footage of that. So what

1174
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? So we hadd a unique challenge there,

1175
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 1: and we knew we had to do recrease. And man,

1176
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's definitely risky because I mean it was

1177
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 1: really elaborate, you know, and and really expensive in the

1178
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: world of docks anyway, you know, that was a big

1179
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: thing from you should have dock. I mean a big

1180
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: day on set for us. We got six people, right,

1181
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: the eight people is a huge day for us. So

1182
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 1: when we're doing scenes like live nightclub or Major League

1183
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 1: Baseball headquarters in New York board room during the arbitration

1184
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: when a rod is appealing his the you know, the

1185
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: longest uh suspension in the history of the game. We

1186
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 1: were feeding for lunch a hundred people that day. That

1187
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,520
Speaker 1: is a huge footprint for us. I mean his doc filmmakers,

1188
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, you got the crew, the extras. It was risky, man,

1189
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: but you know what you have to say. You can't

1190
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: you can't win if you don't play the game. You know,

1191
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, you know, so um gotta play to win

1192
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 1: and uh and and we roll the dice on this.

1193
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: I think I thank you for saying so. I I

1194
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 1: felt like it it paid off, but I needed to

1195
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 1: do something. And as a doc filmmaker, man, recrease, it's

1196
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: all about keeping it real with docs and recrease your

1197
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: fav That's Why'm like, I gotta do it in a

1198
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: creative way. I gotta do it in a way that

1199
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: makes sense. Spike Jones ninety seven, Sky's the Limit. R. I. P.

1200
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: Biggie that was That was the sort of seed in

1201
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: high school and college that was extremely influential. I mean,

1202
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: what a brilliant way to overcome that obstacle. You got

1203
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: this posthumous video and he's gonna be like, well, why

1204
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: don't we just do a straight up classic like art

1205
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: type of a Bad Boy Records video of ninety seven.

1206
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: And we always call this movie screwball. We knew what

1207
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: was going to be this farce because the story is

1208
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 1: so fucking ridiculous. It's so ridiculous. If it didn't happen,

1209
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: you wouldn't believe it. You think it's the dumbest thing

1210
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: you ever heard in your life. But it did, and

1211
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: so I thought, like, you know what, let's drunk history this.

1212
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: Let's have actors lip syncing the dialogue. We had great.

1213
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you would appreciate this because we had the

1214
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: two main guys, Porter Fisher and Tony Bosh. We interviewed them.

1215
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: They're absolutely in the film the most um and uh.

1216
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: They have both have very similar storytelling styles that are

1217
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,759
Speaker 1: like they both talked like I walked into his office

1218
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: and I said I want my money and he says,

1219
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't have your money, and I said, you better

1220
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 1: get my money. He says, I'm Tony Bosh, what are

1221
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: you gonna do about it? I said, I'm a fucking

1222
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 1: choke you out right here they talk in dialogue. So

1223
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: that's where I was like, oh, ship, we could make

1224
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: we could totally drunk history this and have the actors,

1225
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, lip sync to play back on set, and

1226
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: all the actors will be eight years old. That's in

1227
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: lab coats and stethoscopes and facial hair and copy uniforms

1228
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 1: and pin stripes for a Rod. And it was just

1229
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: and that's when you realized when I interviewed these two guys,

1230
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, this is a story, like this

1231
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 1: isn't about a Rod. Don't tell him that, but this

1232
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: isn't about a Rod, you know, And this is about

1233
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: these wonderful only in Miami kind of characters. And a

1234
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: Rod was collateral damage. So the highest paid baseball player

1235
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: in history, his career was effectively ended over a four

1236
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 1: thousand dollar debt between a cocaine addicted fake doctor and

1237
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: his fake tan addicted steroid patient. I mean, it's just

1238
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: that ship, four thousand dollar, four grande and like a

1239
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 1: month a month's time, like m one month and four grand.

1240
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: So have you heard anything from Alex Rodriguez about about

1241
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 1: scowl Ball? Have there been any threats, any lawyer letters? Well,

1242
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: what's his response been. Just a few weeks ago, UM

1243
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 1: our distributor, Greenwich Entertainment just released free solo one the

1244
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 1: Oscar for Best Documentary. UM they dropped our trailer for

1245
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: Screwball online. Starts getting some traction, starts building over the day,

1246
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 1: kind of kind of going viral ish the next day Instagram,

1247
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: A Rod's on his knee putting a ring on j

1248
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 1: Lo's finger. I just say, I wanted to tell I

1249
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: I know A Rod's publicist, and I wanted to text him,

1250
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: well played. Bro ha ha ha. I didn't what I

1251
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: wanted to. But have you got any letters yet? No? Hell?

1252
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 1: You know what you know what the strisand effect is.

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01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 1: You know, it's like what happened with Devin juniez Unez

1254
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: cow Like. I think he feels like if I ignore it,

1255
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 1: it'll just go away. And guess what. To date, he's

1256
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: been absolutely right about that. I mean this this comeback story.

1257
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: You know, Alex Rodriguez, his second act. Nobody saw that coming, Nobody, unprecedented, dude,

1258
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 1: Nobody liked him before. Everybody's like, oh he's you know,

1259
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: he's made a comeback. I'm gonna come back. Yankees fans

1260
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: booed the guy. I mean, it's those own fans a

1261
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: rod the broadcast. I remember when he first was doing

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01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: the post season and I was like, he's fucking great

1263
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: at this. He's really fucking good. He's great at it.

1264
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't you can't knock his hustle. I mean,

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01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 1: Rodriguez could have been the most endorsed, well liked athlete

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Speaker 1: if he was like that during his whole time as

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Speaker 1: a player. I mean, you're a famous person. You know

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01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: a lot of famous people. When you get caught up

1269
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: in the machine of fame, when you are making yourself

1270
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 1: and a lot of other people a lot of money,

1271
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 1: it's it's a really stressful thing. People think it's like,

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01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: you know, to be rich and famous is like to

1273
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 1: be rich, and it's like, it's fucking stressful. If you're

1274
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: that famous, you could walk we could walk into right

1275
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: Aid and grab some thrifty ice cream. He can't go

1276
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: anywhere like for example, you know when when when I

1277
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,799
Speaker 1: did a documentary Broke about athletes going broke for ESPN,

1278
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 1: and and uh, I kind of put it into perspective.

1279
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: And I had some addiction in my family. One of

1280
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: the things they tell you that addicts, um are emotionally

1281
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 1: stunted at the age in which they started using. And

1282
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: even though they get older, they don't really grow up.

1283
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: They're always sort of like that fragile thirteen year old

1284
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: who went into mom's medicine cabinet or you know, or

1285
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 1: to the to their parents bar or whatever. And and um,

1286
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: I see that with famous people too. Whatever age you

1287
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 1: are when you become that fucking famous, that is, as

1288
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber, Michael Jackson, whatever age you're at when you

1289
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: become that fucking famous, you never emotionally because we as

1290
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: human beings exist because of our failures. We exist because

1291
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: people tell us know and we learn our boundaries from that.

1292
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: If you're eight and you're fucking rich and famous and

1293
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: everybody tells you yes forever for the rest of your life,

1294
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna be fucked in the head. Agree. And So

1295
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 1: I think Alex had it hard. I really do. I

1296
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 1: think he had it hard. I think he's a really complicated,

1297
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: interesting guy. Um. And I think that that he just

1298
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: I think that finally getting kind of squeezed out of

1299
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 1: the game in a way, forced out of this game

1300
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 1: that he loved. That was the only thing he knew

1301
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: how to do, That was the only thing anyone ever

1302
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 1: told him he was any good at um. I think

1303
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: it was liberating for him. And yeah, he was no

1304
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: less rich, and arguably he's more famous now, but he

1305
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: was able to say, like, well, what else am I

1306
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: gonna do? Like you said, what's my second act going

1307
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: to be? And I think it's been fascinating to watch.

1308
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: It's certainly been a miraculous public relations story that they're

1309
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 1: gonna be teaching in fucking universities and PR courses forever.

1310
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Lance Armstrong went around, he did the Mayo culpitour.

1311
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 1: Alex never apologizes joked about it a little bit, which

1312
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,839
Speaker 1: is great, it's charming, it's funny, but he's never really

1313
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: come clean about what went down and what be Remember

1314
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: this guy went down fighting. He went down lying, is

1315
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: what he did. And he never really and he didn't

1316
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 1: have to. He just knew that if I can, I guess,

1317
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 1: if I can ride ride the South. That was the strategy,

1318
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 1: was just you know, heading the sand kind of approach,

1319
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:46,600
Speaker 1: and man, it worked. And and MLB has been brilliantly

1320
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 1: complicit in this. And I say MLB now is like

1321
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: basically it's like politics or anything in American life. It's

1322
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: the w W E now and they needed to heal

1323
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 1: back in. Bud Seay was going to retire. He is

1324
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: the stair roid commissioner. Everybody I believe that he knowingly

1325
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: exploited and profited from the steroid era. He needed something

1326
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: to bring back to the game at the sport after ninet,

1327
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 1: people thought America's pastime was toast. After that, players strike

1328
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: and day and they had these fucking baseball monsters with

1329
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: their next the size of my waist smacking balls to

1330
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: Guantanamo and everybody's like, this is great. You know, you

1331
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: had the home run Derby and Sosa McGuire and you

1332
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 1: know the home run race that captured the imagination of

1333
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 1: the world, and we all knew what was going on.

1334
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: You can see these guys, we fucking we morphed them

1335
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: in the documentary. You see Mark McGuire back to back

1336
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: with jose Can Saco, these strawny little dudes that all

1337
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 1: of a sudden turned into the incredible. To see Lee

1338
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: was like, listen, I gotta go out the door here

1339
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: looking like I did something. So this what was the script?

1340
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 1: He was the Vince McMahon. I think he's like, we're

1341
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: gonna what bigger scalp could we get than a rod

1342
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 1: So they get in this battle of the legacies, and

1343
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 1: then uh, what happens he retires? They nailed. They run

1344
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: biggest suspension ever um being on Rob Manfred who was

1345
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 1: selling second in command, who was in charge of this

1346
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 1: ridiculous investigation which which some people alleging the documentary was

1347
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: in a legal investigation, and they broke the law MLB

1348
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 1: down there handing over a hundred thousand dollars cash from

1349
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: some fucking slush fund to a felon and a diner

1350
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: in South Florida. And who's crazy what they were doing

1351
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 1: down there, seducing nurses from clinics from this guy Tony

1352
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: Bosch literally like having affairs with them. It was a

1353
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 1: Keystone Cops. It was this internal organization. But then Rob

1354
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 1: Manford gets the he gets the call he's the commissioner now,

1355
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 1: and then what happens He goes, well, I'm dens McMahon,

1356
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 1: Now what's the storyline? Now? Storyline is higher Pete Rose

1357
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 1: and a rod to be announcers and commentators for the game. Brilliant,

1358
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 1: brilliant storyline, because the bottom line is the bottom line.

1359
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 1: That's what they're there. Look at what elevates, what raises

1360
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 1: the stock and raises the revenue and interest in the game.

1361
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: It's it's fucking wrestling, right, w w A Right. Is

1362
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: there anything you've seen recently that you're hyped about? Documentary wise?

1363
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 1: I mean finding Neverland, I'm sorry leaving leaving Neverland. Finding

1364
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 1: Neverlands a very different, very different story, but leaving Neverland. Um.

1365
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: I really interested in in this idea of of sort

1366
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 1: of reassessing heroes because that's really what screwball. It's kind

1367
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 1: of the victims. Part of the reason why we use

1368
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: the kids is that they're the victims in this story.

1369
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: Not only did Tony Bosh, for example, have high school patients,

1370
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,560
Speaker 1: which is not okay, um and he rightfully went to

1371
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: federal prison for that. But ultimately, these kids look up

1372
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: to professional athletes as heroes, as role models, and many

1373
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: of them may not be worthy of of of that,

1374
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 1: uh you know, adulation, um and and they may not

1375
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: be people worth looking up to. And and that to

1376
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: me is like that's the state of of America right now.

1377
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 1: I think screwball is ultimately to me about what I

1378
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 1: call the new American values. And we used to teach

1379
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: our kids to to tell the truth, honesty, integrity, do

1380
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 1: unto others as you'd have done unto you, the golden rule.

1381
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 1: And now the messages lie, cheat and steel. And that's

1382
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 1: how you win, that's how you get ahead, that's how

1383
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: you get rich. Lie cheat and steel. And you could

1384
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: be the highest paid baseball player of all time, lie

1385
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: cheat and steel, And you could be the commissioner of

1386
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball Live cheat and Steel, and you two

1387
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: kids could be president of the United States. And I'm

1388
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 1: not saying that that that's not how it's been all along, okay,

1389
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 1: But when the president says it's okay and the president

1390
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 1: behaves that way, that is a paradigm shift in the

1391
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: values of a country. And that is a message being

1392
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: sent to a generation or more of young people that

1393
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 1: is toxic. It is a toxic message that I don't

1394
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 1: think we're going to fully comprehend the damage that has

1395
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: been done. I think it's going to be horrific, you know,

1396
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 1: and and and I just I think that the people

1397
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 1: at the top set the tone and when at least

1398
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: they're pretending that the American dream is alive and well,

1399
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 1: at least when they're pretending to send a message of hope,

1400
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 1: at least, when they're tending that the that the that

1401
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: the game isn't rigged, the system isn't fixed, there's a

1402
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 1: chance for young people to feel like there is an opportunity.

1403
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 1: But when they're basically saying the rules don't apply to us,

1404
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: it's it's the famous Nixon line, you know when he

1405
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 1: told Frost he said, when the president does it, that

1406
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 1: means that it is not illegal, basically saying unequivocally, the

1407
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: presidents above the law. That was the moment when people

1408
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: like damn Nixon's garbage. But now the president doesn't just

1409
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 1: say that he hasn't talked to talk. He walks the

1410
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: fucking walk. I am above the law, and Congress says,

1411
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he is above the law. What

1412
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,679
Speaker 1: does that say? What does that say? Now? I would

1413
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:47,759
Speaker 1: say you are some sort of steroid expert at this point,

1414
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 1: if you bet the house, the dog, the wife and

1415
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:55,560
Speaker 1: the kids, what would you say? Billy Corbyn, the filmmaker,

1416
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: a k A steroid expert, what would you say that

1417
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is on right now, just philosophically. Is it steroids?

1418
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: H g H? I mean, what's his mixed and he

1419
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 1: doesn't sweat, he's blowing. I mean, what the fuck do

1420
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 1: you think Trump has hopped the point right now? Well, listen,

1421
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 1: there's no doubt he's he's spray tanning. I don't think

1422
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: there's any question. You don't get those raccoon eyes from

1423
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 1: from you know, natural sun, like not to mention that

1424
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: color is not human, but I would say, and obviously

1425
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 1: he's got some kind of hair plugs or hair surgery,

1426
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: and I think maybe adderall. I think it's a healthy

1427
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 1: like horse pill size supply of all allegedly. All right, look,

1428
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: I I can really talk to you about each of

1429
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 1: your films. I loved Dog Fight. I I really enjoyed

1430
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: that film. I think it's well made. It was a

1431
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 1: great story. Uh, really well executed and looked good. Do

1432
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: you have any plans on what you're gonna do next? Yeah,

1433
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: I we're actually shooting right now Dog Fight. Round to

1434
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: talk about not being able to detach from the subject,

1435
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: I got. Really we worked on that project for a

1436
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:03,799
Speaker 1: long time, for like six seven years, and we couldn't

1437
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: get anybody to distribute it, and I thought it was

1438
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: some of our best work. And I had friends in

1439
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 1: the industry who were telling we were showing rough cuts

1440
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 1: and like, what do you think and they're like, I

1441
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: think it's some of your best work. We will not

1442
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 1: buy it. And I was like, so weird, so weird,

1443
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: and I was like I thought and and I was

1444
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 1: really attached to it because guys started dying. One of

1445
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:26,919
Speaker 1: them was shot and killed, one of them was tasered

1446
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: to death by police, and Hyaliyah and Miami, and I

1447
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 1: was like, I got to get this movie out before

1448
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: like the fucking end credits are like an obituary section.

1449
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, I was devastated by all this,

1450
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, before we're all dead, I want

1451
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 1: to get this movie out and um, and so people

1452
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: were telling us this is true. Why were they Why

1453
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: were they rejecting this movie? Uh? To Urban, which which

1454
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: we know what asked code for to Jewish, too too

1455
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: violent and too real, And I was like, that doesn't

1456
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 1: make those are legit things were documentary, that's American pop culture,

1457
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 1: that's football, that's fucking basketball, that's right, Like two Urban

1458
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 1: two fol Like, what are you talking. I was so

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Speaker 1: pissed and I was devastated by it too, and um

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01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 1: and finally Netflix was like, oh, we love this. Netflix

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Speaker 1: had the balls to to put it out all right,

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Speaker 1: dog Fight. For the people who haven't seen it, give

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Speaker 1: a quick, simple synopsis. It's about the subculture of unsanctioned, illegal,

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01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: bare knuckle brawls in backyards. Kim Mo Slice was the

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01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 1: godfather of that game. And this was the next generation

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Speaker 1: of guys who were in these really hopeless communities, a

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Speaker 1: lot of them ex cons, who don't you check that

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Speaker 1: box on the uh you know on on on the

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Speaker 1: job application. You're not going to get that job you

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Speaker 1: have you have recently been arrested or you are convicted felon.

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01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: And so these guys thoughts and believe that their best

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01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 1: opportunity is to literally try to fight their way out

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01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 1: of their situation to create a better life for themselves

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Speaker 1: and their families. And it's kind of like this brutal, beautiful,

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01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 1: tragic kind of look at a part of Miami that

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01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 1: when you think of Miami, think South Beach and everybody

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01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 1: thinks of those same ten blocks, you know, um beautiful blocks.

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Speaker 1: But this is like twenty three miles southwest and what's

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01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: the part of Miami. It takes place in Perrine. It's

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01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,759
Speaker 1: called West Perrine. I was not able to detach myself

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Speaker 1: from that show because and I went with Dotta five thousand,

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Speaker 1: Daffier Harris, who's the fighter in the He's the don

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01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 1: king of the backyard who gets an opportunity to go

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01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 1: pro and make some real money and um, and that's

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Speaker 1: how the movie ends. But then he calls out Kimbo

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Speaker 1: Slice at the end is how many people would like

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01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 1: to see Dotta five thousand versus Kimbo Slice because we

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Speaker 1: all know someone's going to sleep. That's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's the movie ends. Spoiler alert. It's on Netflix if

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01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 1: you want to check it out. But then Bellatur made

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01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: that fight happen in real life. It was one of

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01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 1: the worst fights in history I think of mixed martial arts.

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01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: And we went to Houston for that Bellotour event following

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Speaker 1: data with our cameras and Dotta basically died in the ring.

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01:26:56,640 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 1: It was like Rocky for it was just devastating eating

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01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 1: and he coded and they took him out of there

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01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 1: an on a stretcher and then put him in an ambulance.

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01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: We followed him to the hospital and we sat there

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01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,759
Speaker 1: just devastated. I was in a state of just shock

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Speaker 1: and uh. For for a while, they thought that they

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01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 1: were going to pull the plug, that it was over

1502
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 1: for him, that he was brain dead, that he was

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01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 1: not coming out of it. Um. And he did come

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01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 1: out of it, and he's now promoting a fight in

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01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 1: a triangular cage in Cheyenne, Wyoming. Uh in a couple

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01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: of weeks, like April fourth or fifth or something, and

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01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: we're we basically followed data from that Kimbo fight. And

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01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 1: then of course Kimbo of course, like what two months

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01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 1: later dies. It's unbelievable. So that's that's something we're working on.

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01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: It's it's Florida. Listen. The Florida today is the America

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01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 1: of tomorrow. I hate to tell you so all right,

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Speaker 1: Billy Corbyn, Uh, thank you so much for rocking with

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Speaker 1: me on the I m Rapp Reports stereo podcast. Check

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Speaker 1: out screw Ball, which is now out on Deo on demand.

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Speaker 1: I have been a fan. I've been a fan for

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Speaker 1: a long time. It is nice to finally meet you.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you taking the time, Billy Corbyn, watch

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Speaker 1: out for all the Sick Fox down there in Miami,

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Speaker 1: and Yo, thank you everybody. Check out Screwball. I love

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Speaker 1: this film. You are Rappaport all right. I told you

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Speaker 1: it was gonna be a good one. I'm out. What

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Speaker 1: more can I say? The Iron Rapports stereo pockets. I

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Speaker 1: want to thank my guest Billy Corbin. Check out his

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Speaker 1: film that is on video on demand now, Screwball. He

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Speaker 1: hasn't steered you wrong yet. Guy makes great documentary films, funny,

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Speaker 1: very smart, great filmmaker, good guy. Um so much more?

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Speaker 1: What can I say? The Iron Rappors stereo pond Because

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Speaker 1: we ain't going nowhere, same place, same time, same ship,

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Speaker 1: talking disruptive channel Miles Jordan's get me out here with

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Speaker 1: something real nice, some real proper, but most importantly, what

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Speaker 1: you know what it is? Some real funk. Distinct, distinct,

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Speaker 1: made to distinct, made distinct, made distinct, made a distinct,