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Speaker 2: Angela Thomas is with us. The book is This Psychic Life,
Speaker 2: a collection of personal stories. There's a story in the book,
Speaker 2: Angela about a man who attended his own funeral. Yes,
Speaker 2: unpacked this one for us.
Speaker 3: Well, I have to say, that was my first time
Speaker 3: of seeing a full apparition. And you know a lot
Speaker 3: of people report apparitions, as you know, I didn't see
Speaker 3: the feet or they were a little clear, you know,
Speaker 3: they weren't full bodied. But I had a family friend
Speaker 3: and a gentleman that you know, was the grandfather of
Speaker 3: some friends that I went to school with, and I
Speaker 3: got to know him and Richard. One of the things
Speaker 3: about this man was that he loved cars, so he
Speaker 3: could tell you the schematics of you know, all of
Speaker 3: these cars and models and so on and so forth.
Speaker 3: So every time that I would go to visit, he
Speaker 3: talked about cars. So fast forward, I get a phone
Speaker 3: call that he has passed. So I go to the
Speaker 3: funeral home for the for the you know, the viewing
Speaker 3: of the body and to pay my last respect. And
Speaker 3: I did so, and so his stepdaughter said, hey, let's
Speaker 3: go back in the breakroom. And back then you could
Speaker 3: get coffee at a funeral home and you could vending machine.
Speaker 3: You could even smoke inside, right, So we went back
Speaker 3: into the breakroom, and this room had windows that faced
Speaker 3: out into the parking lot. So at one point I'm
Speaker 3: standing in front of the window, just kind of gazing out.
Speaker 3: Beautiful day, by the way, beautiful, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: I see the man, my friend who has died and
Speaker 3: I paid my last respects to. He is walking around
Speaker 3: in the parking lot and he's checking out the cars,
Speaker 3: you know, like bending over, looking at the tires and
Speaker 3: you know, license plates and all this. Okay, so I said,
Speaker 3: oh my god, and I heard his stepdaughter's voice, who,
Speaker 3: by the way, had a Panamanian accent. I didn't turn around,
Speaker 3: but she said, oh, you know, something like, don't worry, Angie,
Speaker 3: that's his twin brother. So I just thought, oh, okay.
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't know he had a twin brother.
Speaker 3: So several years after that incident, I went out to
Speaker 3: the Phoenix, Arizona area to visit the stepdaughter and I asked, well,
Speaker 3: how is his twin brother doing? And she said, what
Speaker 3: are you talking about? And I said, don't you remember
Speaker 3: you said, don't worry Angie, it's just his twin brother.
Speaker 3: And she said, I never said that. Now he does
Speaker 3: have a twin sister.
Speaker 1: But what the heck?
Speaker 3: What happened was, well, you know he was there. He
Speaker 3: attended his own you know, his own I guess memorial
Speaker 3: at the funeral home, and I'm sure he went along
Speaker 3: for the ride to the actual cemetery.
Speaker 2: Why did his step is why did his stepdaughter say that?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 2: Why did she say that's his twin.
Speaker 3: She she didn't say it. What happened was that spirit.
Speaker 3: You know, spirits have the ability to to mimic anything
Speaker 3: they want to. So I feel like a spirit used
Speaker 3: her voice to tell me, don't worry Angie, it's just
Speaker 3: his twin brother. Again, I didn't turn around when she
Speaker 3: said that. The conversation, so yeah, it was. I was
Speaker 3: absolutely flabbergasted. I had no idea but to look at
Speaker 3: this man in the parking lot would be as if
Speaker 3: I were looking at you walking around in a parking lot,
Speaker 3: that whole body solid.
Speaker 2: Did you happen to notice? Was he wearing the same
Speaker 2: suit that he was decked out in the in the casket?
Speaker 3: No, he was not was not.
Speaker 2: Uh. Are our psychics often able to see apparitions, ghost
Speaker 2: spirits or are they mutually I mean they're not mutually exclusive.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is if you are psychic, you're are
Speaker 2: you more likely to see ghosts apparitions?
Speaker 3: Well, I think that there is. You know that more
Speaker 3: psychics versus someone that is not as as you know,
Speaker 3: has strong abilities. Yeah, I feel like they have a
Speaker 3: little bit more ability to see it. But the thing
Speaker 3: is is that most psychics do not walk around seeing
Speaker 3: spirits most of the time. Spirits you can feel their energy,
Speaker 3: you know they're around, or if your Claire audience, like
Speaker 3: I am, you may hear them, right. But when I
Speaker 3: say here that I'm talking about conversation or some words
Speaker 3: or something like this. But you know, the average John
Speaker 3: and Jane Doe out there, I believe sees spirits most
Speaker 3: of the time. And I know that sounds odd for
Speaker 3: me to say that, but I feel like they're thinking that,
Speaker 3: you know that they're seeing a solid body and so
Speaker 3: they're thinking, oh, that's you know, that's a real person,
Speaker 3: when in fact it's not a real person. It's a
Speaker 3: spirit that has appeared as a real person. Now there
Speaker 3: is something called energy transfer, which a spirit can lay
Speaker 3: his or her image over a real person. So if
Speaker 3: you've ever experienced Richard where maybe you're walking down the
Speaker 3: street or you're inside a building and suddenly you see
Speaker 3: somebody that you know has passed on, but you look
Speaker 3: and you go, oh my god, there's John Doe. And
Speaker 3: then for a moment you see the image of John Doe.
Speaker 3: And then you blink a couple of times and then
Speaker 3: you find out, no, that's not John Doe at all,
Speaker 3: But just for the moment, you see them clearly. And
Speaker 3: that's when a spirit can lay their energy on top
Speaker 3: of another living human beings.
Speaker 2: Is that easier for a spirit to do than to
Speaker 2: produce a full on apparition.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you would call it easier or not.
Speaker 3: I believe that, you know, there's got to be enough
Speaker 3: energy in the room or the air for let's say
Speaker 3: electromagnetic energy for apparition to come into full view. But
Speaker 3: you know, an individual has plenty of energy for a
Speaker 3: spirit to lay his or her image over. You know,
Speaker 3: what they're doing is they're stepping into the aura of
Speaker 3: that individual just long enough for somebody to see them.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about crows. I know there's
Speaker 2: a story in the book about crows, and I think
Speaker 2: I told this story on coast about very quickly, my
Speaker 2: wife going to visit a friend's father who had recently
Speaker 2: lost his wife and his friend's mother obviously passed on,
Speaker 2: so she drove over to the house they were childhood friends.
Speaker 2: She had a basket of goodies. She had baked some
Speaker 2: things for the friend's father, who was elderly and now
Speaker 2: living alone.
Speaker 1: So she.
Speaker 2: Reached into the trunk to pull out the basket, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden she saw this huge crow on
Speaker 2: the roof of the house and it was trying to
Speaker 2: get at this squirrel. And then the next moment she
Speaker 2: looked up, the crow was gone, and she heard of
Speaker 2: always behind her. At the end of the drive. We
Speaker 2: s She turned around and this gentleman introduced himself and said, oh,
Speaker 2: are you here to see whatever the gentleman's name was,
Speaker 2: And she was startled, and then she she just walked
Speaker 2: up to the front porch, didn't say anything, put the
Speaker 2: basket on the front porch, and was going to turn
Speaker 2: and leave. The man was gone and the crow was back.
Speaker 2: And I think I'm probably leaving out some details, but
Speaker 2: I kind of shortened it. But what is You've got
Speaker 2: a story about some a gathering of crows. There's something
Speaker 2: going on with these birds, to be sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know spirit. You know, birds often looked at
Speaker 3: as spirit messengers. And so I feel like your story
Speaker 3: about your wife's experience was that of a spirit that
Speaker 3: got her attention, right, she saw it on the roof
Speaker 3: and it was going after a scorel and then boom,
Speaker 3: suddenly you have a man behind her. So I can
Speaker 3: say that that more than likely was a spirit that
Speaker 3: you know, took the body of the crow and then
Speaker 3: turned around and took the form of a human. And
Speaker 3: here's the thing. It could have been a neighbor, right,
Speaker 3: could have been a neighbor, guy, right, And suddenly that
Speaker 3: spirit takes over that neighbor's body and then he's gone
Speaker 3: very quickly. Or it could be just a spirit that
Speaker 3: came down and formed as a human being and then
Speaker 3: vanished again and now he reappears as the crow. So
Speaker 3: you know, when when it comes to para normal things
Speaker 3: things shift in a second, you know. So we may
Speaker 3: be startled by how quickly things change, but in the
Speaker 3: pair of normal world, that's pretty typical right, that's right.
Speaker 2: Tell me about the gathering of crows in the book.
Speaker 3: Well, I have to say that I went over to
Speaker 3: a particular client's house. She was dying. She was in
Speaker 3: stage four cancer. She was a nurse by profession, so
Speaker 3: she knew exactly what was going on, and she said,
Speaker 3: I want one last reading before I leave this earth.
Speaker 3: And so she had kind of opened up a sliding
Speaker 3: glass door, you know, to get a little fresh air
Speaker 3: or a window, whatever it was. And so as I
Speaker 3: start to read, and I'm just fast forwarding through the
Speaker 3: story very quickly as I'm reading, and I would stop
Speaker 3: right as soon as I would pause, these crows And
Speaker 3: by the way, these crows came out of nowhere. She
Speaker 3: had a big tree in the backyard and it just
Speaker 3: suddenly flooded with crows. I mean it was like, you know,
Speaker 3: how many crows in a ten mile radius out a lot.
Speaker 3: And so every time I would pause in the reading,
Speaker 3: these crows would go absolutely crazy. And I didn't initially
Speaker 3: say anything to her about the crows. She brought up
Speaker 3: the crows herself, and then I would start to read
Speaker 3: and they would go silent. And when I would pause
Speaker 3: or say, do you have any questions at this time.
Speaker 3: These crows would just sound off and it was an
Speaker 3: amazing experience. I really do feel that spirits were there
Speaker 3: to support her, you know what I mean. They were
Speaker 3: there to support her, and they wanted to make themselves known.
Speaker 3: Now that's not the only that whole incident with those
Speaker 3: crows there in and around that time, I remember my
Speaker 3: front and backyard having just thousands of crows that landed
Speaker 3: on the property, and yet none of my neighbors had
Speaker 3: a crow in it. And as soon as I saw
Speaker 3: the crows in the yard, I thought, uh oh, this
Speaker 3: is a big sign, right, And things did fall, you know,
Speaker 3: in a negative way shortly after those crows had shown
Speaker 3: up in my yard. So, and I'm not saying that
Speaker 3: crows are all bad messengers or anything of that nature,
Speaker 3: but they are messengers of spirits.
Speaker 2: Right in indigenous cultures, aren't they considered to be kind
Speaker 2: of tricksters? Well maybe that's the raven I'm confused using,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I think of a crow, you
Speaker 2: know that a flock of crows, we call them a
Speaker 2: murder of crows. They do seem kind of sinister.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't get that from crows I know
Speaker 3: that they have a reputation of that.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And you know a lot of times we see you know,
Speaker 3: like scaring movies right where they show the crow and
Speaker 3: there's something you know in the foreboding or you know,
Speaker 3: pre sentiment of something that's going to happen. But I
Speaker 3: guess you could connect it to that. But I don't
Speaker 3: see them as here comes something demonic, or every time
Speaker 3: you see a crow or the gathering of crows that
Speaker 3: it's going to be horrible. But in my case, with
Speaker 3: them coming into the yard, I knew just from the
Speaker 3: feeling of it and the sight of it, you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's I mean, why would those crows not land
Speaker 3: in my neighbor's yard, in the front yard or in
Speaker 3: the backyard. Why just mine? So to me, it was saying,
Speaker 3: heads up, Angela, we're here for a reason.
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