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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Angela Thomas is with us. The book is This Psychic Life,

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Speaker 2: a collection of personal stories. There's a story in the book,

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Speaker 2: Angela about a man who attended his own funeral. Yes,

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Speaker 2: unpacked this one for us.

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Speaker 3: Well, I have to say, that was my first time

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Speaker 3: of seeing a full apparition. And you know a lot

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Speaker 3: of people report apparitions, as you know, I didn't see

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Speaker 3: the feet or they were a little clear, you know,

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Speaker 3: they weren't full bodied. But I had a family friend

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Speaker 3: and a gentleman that you know, was the grandfather of

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Speaker 3: some friends that I went to school with, and I

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Speaker 3: got to know him and Richard. One of the things

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Speaker 3: about this man was that he loved cars, so he

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Speaker 3: could tell you the schematics of you know, all of

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Speaker 3: these cars and models and so on and so forth.

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Speaker 3: So every time that I would go to visit, he

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Speaker 3: talked about cars. So fast forward, I get a phone

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Speaker 3: call that he has passed. So I go to the

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Speaker 3: funeral home for the for the you know, the viewing

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Speaker 3: of the body and to pay my last respect. And

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Speaker 3: I did so, and so his stepdaughter said, hey, let's

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Speaker 3: go back in the breakroom. And back then you could

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Speaker 3: get coffee at a funeral home and you could vending machine.

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Speaker 3: You could even smoke inside, right, So we went back

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Speaker 3: into the breakroom, and this room had windows that faced

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Speaker 3: out into the parking lot. So at one point I'm

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Speaker 3: standing in front of the window, just kind of gazing out.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful day, by the way, beautiful, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: I see the man, my friend who has died and

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Speaker 3: I paid my last respects to. He is walking around

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Speaker 3: in the parking lot and he's checking out the cars,

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Speaker 3: you know, like bending over, looking at the tires and

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Speaker 3: you know, license plates and all this. Okay, so I said,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, and I heard his stepdaughter's voice, who,

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Speaker 3: by the way, had a Panamanian accent. I didn't turn around,

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Speaker 3: but she said, oh, you know, something like, don't worry, Angie,

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Speaker 3: that's his twin brother. So I just thought, oh, okay.

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Speaker 3: You know, I didn't know he had a twin brother.

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Speaker 3: So several years after that incident, I went out to

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Speaker 3: the Phoenix, Arizona area to visit the stepdaughter and I asked, well,

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Speaker 3: how is his twin brother doing? And she said, what

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Speaker 3: are you talking about? And I said, don't you remember

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Speaker 3: you said, don't worry Angie, it's just his twin brother.

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Speaker 3: And she said, I never said that. Now he does

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Speaker 3: have a twin sister.

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Speaker 1: But what the heck?

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Speaker 3: What happened was, well, you know he was there. He

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Speaker 3: attended his own you know, his own I guess memorial

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Speaker 3: at the funeral home, and I'm sure he went along

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Speaker 3: for the ride to the actual cemetery.

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Speaker 2: Why did his step is why did his stepdaughter say that?

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Speaker 1: Then?

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Speaker 2: Why did she say that's his twin.

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Speaker 3: She she didn't say it. What happened was that spirit.

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Speaker 3: You know, spirits have the ability to to mimic anything

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Speaker 3: they want to. So I feel like a spirit used

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Speaker 3: her voice to tell me, don't worry Angie, it's just

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Speaker 3: his twin brother. Again, I didn't turn around when she

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Speaker 3: said that. The conversation, so yeah, it was. I was

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Speaker 3: absolutely flabbergasted. I had no idea but to look at

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Speaker 3: I were looking at you walking around in a parking lot,

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Speaker 3: that whole body solid.

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Speaker 2: Did you happen to notice? Was he wearing the same

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Speaker 3: No, he was not was not.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Are our psychics often able to see apparitions, ghost

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Speaker 2: spirits or are they mutually I mean they're not mutually exclusive.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is if you are psychic, you're are

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Speaker 2: you more likely to see ghosts apparitions?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that there is. You know that more

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Speaker 3: is is that most psychics do not walk around seeing

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Speaker 3: spirits most of the time. Spirits you can feel their energy,

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Speaker 3: I am, you may hear them, right. But when I

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Speaker 3: spirit that has appeared as a real person. Now there

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Speaker 3: is something called energy transfer, which a spirit can lay

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Speaker 3: you've ever experienced Richard where maybe you're walking down the

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Speaker 3: somebody that you know has passed on, but you look

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Speaker 3: then for a moment you see the image of John Doe.

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Speaker 3: And then you blink a couple of times and then

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Speaker 3: But just for the moment, you see them clearly. And

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Speaker 3: that's when a spirit can lay their energy on top

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Speaker 2: Is that easier for a spirit to do than to

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Speaker 2: produce a full on apparition.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you would call it easier or not.

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Speaker 3: I believe that, you know, there's got to be enough

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Speaker 3: electromagnetic energy for apparition to come into full view. But

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Speaker 3: you know, an individual has plenty of energy for a

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Speaker 3: spirit to lay his or her image over. You know,

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Speaker 3: what they're doing is they're stepping into the aura of

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Speaker 3: that individual just long enough for somebody to see them.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about crows. I know there's

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Speaker 2: a story in the book about crows, and I think

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Speaker 2: I told this story on coast about very quickly, my

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Speaker 2: so she drove over to the house they were childhood friends.

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Speaker 2: She had a basket of goodies. She had baked some

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden she saw this huge crow on

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Speaker 2: And she was startled, and then she she just walked

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Speaker 2: And I think I'm probably leaving out some details, but

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Speaker 2: a story about some a gathering of crows. There's something

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know spirit. You know, birds often looked at

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Speaker 3: as spirit messengers. And so I feel like your story

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Speaker 3: got her attention, right, she saw it on the roof

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Speaker 3: suddenly you have a man behind her. So I can

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Speaker 3: say that that more than likely was a spirit that

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Speaker 3: could have been a neighbor, guy, right, And suddenly that

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Speaker 2: Tell me about the gathering of crows in the book.

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Speaker 3: she knew exactly what was going on, and she said,

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Speaker 3: And so every time I would pause in the reading,

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Speaker 3: Now that's not the only that whole incident with those

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Speaker 3: up in my yard. So, and I'm not saying that

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Speaker 3: but they are messengers of spirits.

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Speaker 2: Right in indigenous cultures, aren't they considered to be kind

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Speaker 2: but I don't know. I think of a crow, you

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Speaker 2: murder of crows. They do seem kind of sinister.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't get that from crows I know

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Speaker 3: And you know a lot of times we see you know,

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Speaker 3: like scaring movies right where they show the crow and

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Speaker 3: there's something you know in the foreboding or you know,

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Speaker 3: pre sentiment of something that's going to happen. But I

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Speaker 3: guess you could connect it to that. But I don't

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Speaker 3: it's going to be horrible. But in my case, with

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Speaker 3: it's it's I mean, why would those crows not land

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Speaker 3: the backyard. Why just mine? So to me, it was saying,

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Speaker 3: heads up, Angela, we're here for a reason.

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