1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Ted Cruz. We can review 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson with you. And these are the stories that 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: you may have missed that we talked about this week. 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: First up media and social media. Why are they not 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: coming out condemning those who are celebrating the death of 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. In fact, they're allowing it to happen. So 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: what does this say about America? We're going to break 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: that down. Also, we have the text messages now from 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: the assassin to his roommate, transcendered lover what was said 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: in there? That's so revealing that in a moment. And 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: finally Cashptel and Senator Cruz on naming Antifa a terrorist 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: organization and what this means moving forward. It's the weekend 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: review and it starts right now. I go back to 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: this how many I mean, we watched one of our 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: own be assassinated. Did any cities get burned down? 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: No? Not. 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: There any police officers that were attacked. 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 4: No. 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: Was there any assaults on people because of it that 20 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: were angry? 21 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: No? 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: And yet they're mad. 23 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: I love this headline from the Daily Beast, which, if 24 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: you don't know what that is, a hardcore liberal propaganda 25 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: machine that has an incredible amount of influence in the left. 26 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: Their headline yesterday ten oh five am, keyboard Warriors, grieving 27 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: this week's assassination of self annoented champion of quote unquote 28 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: free speech, Charlie Kirk, have launched an online campaign to 29 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: get anyone who criticizes him fired from their jobs. 30 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: Their subheadline is. 31 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: Free speech crazed Maga Karen's go full cancel culture on 32 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: Kirk critics. No, let's be clear about the people we 33 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: are exposing. 34 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: It's people. 35 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: They weren't criticizing Chari Kirk. They were celebrating the assassination 36 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk in our major positions of power at 37 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: universities and at other jobs, or things like we mentioned 38 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: earlier where they refuse to put up to print out 39 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: a piece of paper for goodness. 40 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: Six. 41 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, but ben, let me make two to stayctions that 42 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: are important because it's easy to get these confused. Number One, 43 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 4: let's talk free speech. Yes, in the United States, the 44 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: First Amendment gives you the right to speech, to speak 45 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 4: and not to be criminally prosecuted for it, so you 46 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: can say the most horrible, hateful things. You do have 47 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 4: a First Amendment right to say unbelievably horrible, hateful things. 48 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 4: You can say that you are celebrating the murder of 49 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk or anyone else. In the First Amendment will 50 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 4: protect your ability to do so, which means the government 51 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 4: cannot come prosecute you and put you in jail for 52 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 4: saying that. The First Amendment does not mean that you 53 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 4: are immune from the consequences of your speech. And if 54 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 4: you say things that are horrible and hateful, it is 55 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 4: not uncommon for someone to be terminated. So, for example, 56 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 4: at a university, if a student goes and decides to 57 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: dress in a white robe as a clansman and burn 58 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 4: across and say that we should African American students, I 59 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 4: guarantee you that student will be expelled from school. Now, 60 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 4: you can't prosecute him. He as a First Amendment right 61 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: to do that. So that is not a criminal offense 62 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 4: to do that, correct, But the university should absolutely expel 63 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: him because of just how noxious those views are. The 64 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: same is true here when you have teachers that are 65 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 4: celebrating cold blooded murder. There are consequences for that, but 66 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 4: that's a distinction. 67 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: I'll point out. 68 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 4: Also, the president of the Oxford Union who debated Charlie 69 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 4: Kirk and is this vicious leftist. He put out a 70 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: tweet celebrating lets effing go, he said when Charlie Kirk 71 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 4: was shot. This is a guy who literally had one 72 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: on one debated against Charlie Kirk. And he is the 73 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 4: incoming president of the Oxford Union, which pretentiously describes itself 74 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: as the world's greatest debating society. Look, in my view, 75 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 4: this individual ought to be expelled from Oxford for the 76 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 4: same reason you would expel him if he were a 77 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 4: klansman burning across and saying, let's murder black students. Now, 78 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: the United Kingdom does not have the same First Amendment 79 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 4: that applies to it the way the United States does so. Actually, 80 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: in England, if he said that, he might well be 81 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 4: criminally prosecuted. I don't agree with criminally prosecuting speech. But 82 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: the First Amendment does not give you a get out 83 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: of jail free pass. Look, I promise you, any one 84 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 4: of you in your jobs, if you go in and 85 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 4: tell your boss go screw yourself. 86 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna get fired. 87 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 4: You will get fired. You have a first mount right 88 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 4: to say so, but he also has a right to 89 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: terminate you. But let me say secondly on this both sides, 90 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 4: is the media really wants to say, gosh, political violence, 91 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 4: it's a problem that just occurs everywhere. No right now 92 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 4: is it is heavily concentrated on the left, and the 93 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: left has normalized political violence. We saw two separate assassination 94 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 4: attempts of Donald Trump. We saw this tragically successful assassination 95 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 4: of Charlie kirk Over, and we saw for a year 96 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 4: Antifa and Black Lives Matter riots. And I want to 97 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 4: read you some polling results that were done last year, 98 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 4: and people were asked, would it be justified to murder 99 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 4: Elon Musk? And would it be justified to murder Donald Trump? 100 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: And those who were self described left of center, fifty 101 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 4: point two percent said it would be justified to murder 102 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 4: Elon Musk, and fifty six percent said it would be 103 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: justified to murder Donald Trump. That is. And and by 104 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 4: the way, the right of center numbers were fourteen point 105 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 4: three percent and twenty point three percent, So I wish 106 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: all those numbers were zero. But this is a problem 107 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 4: on the left. This is a problem when you define 108 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 4: you're a as Hitler, Nazi, evil fascist, that is a 109 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 4: permission structure to then say violence is an appropriate response, 110 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: and we need to see Democrats having the courage to 111 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: say enough is enough. Look. Bill Maher did a great 112 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: job where he's in his monologue. He said, let's be clear, 113 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: Donald Trump is not Hitler. 114 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: Stop saying that. Stop saying it. 115 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: Exactly well, and I think now they're realizing that using 116 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: the words fascist and Hitler and these types of things 117 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: has dissensitized people and advocated and allowed for this type 118 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: of violence to become reality. Where the big question people 119 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: were asking is what's next. I do want to say. 120 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: One thing that I think I've found incredibly comforting is 121 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: seeing how many young people are at colleges this weekend 122 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: over college football. We're putting up signs saying that they 123 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: are Charlie Kirk. The number of people that are following 124 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: him now on Instagram exploded by I'm not I don't 125 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: think I'm wrong. I think it's millions of people now 126 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: who are Then I think it is likely that more 127 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: people have listened to Charlie Kirk speak in the last 128 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 1: week than did in the entirety of his life. 129 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that that's the silver lining. 130 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 4: His Christian testimony has become so powerful. I will say 131 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 4: his wife, Erica. The speech she gave this week reduced 132 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: me to tears. It was beautiful. God's anointing was upon 133 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 4: her as she did that. And a lot of people 134 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 4: who had never clicked on and watched Charlie Kirk say 135 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 4: anything this week did so and said, Hey, who is 136 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: this guy that touched so many people? I think a 137 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 4: lot of people chose to open their Bible and start 138 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: reading their Bible. A lot of people chose to go 139 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: to church. That is a great thing. That is something 140 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 4: I hope and believe we're going to see a lot 141 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 4: more of. And let me say in subsequent podcast, we're 142 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 4: going to talk about what's coming next. And here's one 143 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 4: of the most important things that that I am urging 144 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: the President, the Department of Justice, the FBI to do, 145 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 4: which is follow the money. Follow the money of everyone 146 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 4: that is pushing this leftist hatred that is pushing this violence. 147 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 4: There is real money that is going into these riots 148 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 4: on campus, that is going into funding ANTIFA, that is 149 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: going into funding Black Lives Matter, And we need to 150 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 4: this is not just one isolated lunatic in Utah. We 151 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: need to follow the money behind the radicalization that is 152 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: leading to people being so twisted and engaging in these 153 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 4: horrific acts of violence. 154 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 155 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 156 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, I 157 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: want to move to the text messages that have come out, 158 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: and it's very interesting to see all of the evidence 159 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: that is now we are seeing the transparency of these 160 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: text messages that were between the shooter and his transgendered boyfriend. 161 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: And I also want to say, there's some people that 162 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: are saying, oh, you're taking this hook line and sinker. 163 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: I don't know if they plan the text messages. 164 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is him trying to protect 165 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: the roommate and act like the roommate knew nothing about it. 166 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll get to the bottom of that. 167 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: But what was shocking about this is how the media 168 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: decided to play it and romanticize their relationship through the 169 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: text messages and the weirdest, creepiest way I've ever seen 170 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: the mainstream media do this. 171 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I'm sorry to do this, but I'm going 172 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 4: to read you these text messages because they're horrifying. But 173 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 4: it makes clear there is no doubt that this murderer 174 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 4: is guilty. And by the way, there is a reason 175 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 4: I won't say the murderer's name, because anyone who engages 176 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 4: in a mass murder and horrific crime like this, part 177 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 4: of the reason they do this is they want to 178 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: be famous. I don't repeat these bastards name. I will 179 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 4: call him the murderer or the assassin or the defendant, 180 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 4: but I will not say his name. But the murderer 181 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 4: and his boyfriend we're exchanging, exchanging texts, and the murderer 182 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 4: left under a keyboard in their apartment a note saying 183 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 4: that he had the opportunity to kill Charlie Kirk and 184 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 4: he took it. And his boyfriend, who is a man 185 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 4: who is transgender and transitioning to be a woman, responded, 186 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 4: what with like a whole bunch of question marks? And 187 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 4: you're joking, right, And here's the exchange. The murderer says, 188 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 4: I'm still okay, my love, but I'm stuck in orum 189 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: for a little while. Longer shouldn't be long until I 190 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 4: can come home, But I got to grab my rifle still. 191 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 4: To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret 192 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 4: till I died of old age. I'm sorry to involve you, boyfriend. 193 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 4: You weren't the one who did it, right for question marks, murderer, 194 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 4: I am, I'm sorry, boyfriend. I thought they caught the 195 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 4: person murderer. No, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then 196 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: interrogated someone in similar clothing. I plan to grab my 197 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 4: rifle from the drop point shortly after, but most of 198 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 4: that side of town got locked down. It's quiet, almost 199 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 4: enough to get out, but there's one vehicle lingering, Boyfriend. 200 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 4: Why murderer? Why did I do it? Boyfriend? Yeah, murderer. 201 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: I've had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be 202 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 4: negotiated out. If I'm able to grab my rifle unseen, 203 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 4: I will have left no evidence. Going to attempt to 204 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 4: retrieve it again. Hopefully they have moved on. I haven't 205 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 4: seen anything about them finding it, Boyfriend. How long have 206 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 4: you been planning this, murderer, a bit over a week. 207 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 4: I believe I can get close to it, but there 208 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 4: is a squad car parked by it. I think they 209 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 4: already swept the spot, but I don't want to chance it. 210 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: Murderer. 211 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 4: I wish I had circled back and grabbed it as 212 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 4: soon as I got to my vehicle. I'm worried what 213 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: my old man would do if I didn't bring back 214 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 4: Grandpa's rifle. I don't know if it had a serial number, 215 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: but it wouldn't trace to me. I worry about Prince. 216 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 4: I had to leave it in the book bush where 217 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 4: I changed outfits. Didn't have the ability or time to 218 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: bring it with I might have to abandon it and 219 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 4: hope they don't find prints. How the f will I 220 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 4: explain losing it to my old man. Only thing I 221 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 4: left was the rifle wrapped in a towel. Remember how 222 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 4: I was engraving bullets. The effing messages are mostly a 223 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 4: big meme. If I see notices bulg'es uwu on Fox News, 224 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 4: I might have a stroke. All right, I'm going to 225 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 4: have to leave it. That really effing sucks. Those are 226 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: the text exchanges now, number one. Reading those text exchanges, 227 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 4: it is one hundred percent clear. It's not ninety nine percent, 228 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 4: it's not ninety eight percent. It's one hundred percent clear. 229 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: This defend is the murderer. He is the assassin. He 230 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: is confessing to his boyfriend, I did it. He is 231 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 4: confessing details of the crime that only the murderer would 232 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 4: would know. He will be convicted. He was charged today, 233 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: he will be convicted. But he is guilty today. Based 234 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 4: on that evidence, it is one hundred percent certain he 235 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 4: is guilty, and his motive is clear. You know, Caitlin 236 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 4: Collins and and CNN and MSNBC they say, we don't 237 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 4: know the motive. Maybe he just disliked tall people. Maybe 238 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 4: he was just you know, firing his gun and celebration 239 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: and it accidentally hit the throne. 240 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: A certainly somebody that was there excited just to see 241 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, and it went off randomly. 242 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: Like the level of him. By the way, an idiot 243 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: commentator at MSNBC said, maybe it was a supporter of 244 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk firing his gun and celebration. Now thankfully that 245 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 4: commentator got fired for that idiocy. But the motive is 246 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 4: absolutely clear. He hated Charlie Kirk. He's a left wing 247 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: antifa activist, he's a transgender activist. He is sleeping with 248 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 4: a transgender man who is transitioning to be a woman. 249 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 4: And so the motive is that there's no ambiguity. But 250 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 4: CNN hates that motive. They cannot admit that's what happened. 251 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, that would undermine their entire political agenda. 252 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 4: So they desperately have to say the motive is unclear. 253 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 4: By the way, Caitlyn Collins said repeatedly, well, law enforcement 254 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 4: hasn't laid out the motive. Yes, they have. They repeatedly 255 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: laid out the motive. They said, it's a left wing 256 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 4: activist who's radicalized. The bullets had carved on the mantifa 257 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 4: and transgender messages. I mean, this is not subtle. He 258 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 4: was not hiding his motive. But I have to say, 259 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: as repulsive as CNN's reaction was, ABC's was worse. I 260 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 4: want you to listen. 261 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: Way worse, way worse. Like you can't overstate it. 262 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 4: Okay, I want you to listen to ABC News's reaction 263 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 4: to this text exchange between the murder and his transgender boyfriend. Here, 264 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 4: give a listen. 265 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: You have scene an alleged murder with such specific text 266 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, 267 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: how it was placed, what was on it. But also 268 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: it was very touching in a way that I think 269 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: many of us didn't expect, a very intimate portrait into 270 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself, 271 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning, calling 272 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: him my love and I want to protect you, my love. 273 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: So it was this duality of someone who, the attorney said, 274 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, 275 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: but was doing it in front of children, which is 276 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: one of the aggravating circumstances of this case. And on 277 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: the other hand, he was speaking so lovingly about his partner, 278 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: so very interesting, as Pierre said, riveting press conference, David. 279 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: I love how they say it's a riveting press conference center. 280 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: It's riveting and just you know, he referred to him 281 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: as my love, and this is just so sweet and sincere. 282 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: It's like, what in the world are you guys doing 283 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: over there at ABC News with your special report, live. 284 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: Coverage, touching and loving? Oh these text messages. I've murdered 285 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 4: this person for you. Oh my love, Oh my love. Peter, patter, pitter, patter. 286 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 4: That is repulsive. It is repulsive that ABC News is 287 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 4: gushing over this psychopathic murderer and ABC News, oh they're 288 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: touching in sweet text messages. He is confessing to a 289 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 4: deliberate murder because he hates what somebody is saying. He 290 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 4: murdered a husband, he murdered a father of two little kids, 291 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 4: one boy, one girl, and and ABC News thinks it's 292 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 4: so sweet that he confessed to his transgender boyfriend, which 293 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 4: of course they call his roommate, even though he's calling 294 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 4: him my love, Like there's no ambiguity when you call 295 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:58,479 Speaker 4: someone my love what exactly the relationship is? But ABC 296 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 4: News can not admit to them it is sweet and beautiful, 297 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 4: This radical leftist murdering Charlie Kirk, I got. I got 298 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 4: a message for you guys. It's it's not sweet and 299 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 4: it's not beautiful. 300 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, side note on this, I don't 301 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: know if you knew this, but ten minutes after that, 302 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: like the internet exploded over it. They he went back 303 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: on and doubled down on it and basically did the 304 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: same thing again. Like, I'm not backing down from this. 305 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: I think it's genuine and sweet and sincere in a 306 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: love story. 307 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 4: You know what a romantic Romeo and Juliet story. You know, 308 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 4: psycho leftist murderer killing people because he's filled with hate. 309 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 4: I can't think of anything more beautiful than that. Certain 310 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 4: certainly ABC News is very persuasive. 311 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 3: In that regard. 312 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be the face of the network before you 313 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: know it. 314 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: God help us. Did he really double down? Did he 315 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 4: really go back on air and do it again? 316 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yes. 317 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: Do you want to hear it, because I've got it 318 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: if you want to hear So this is yes, this 319 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: is this is Mattman. 320 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 4: I haven't heard this, so play it for us. 321 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: So this is ten minutes after he said on ABC 322 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: News Live. It's heartbreaking on so many levels. Obviously, Charlie 323 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: Kirk was murdered brutally in front of a crowd of thousands. 324 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: On the other hand, there is this duality of every 325 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: portrait of a of a again his exact words of 326 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: a very like this is like love story. 327 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, touching. 328 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: So this is this is ten minutes later after the internet. 329 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: And I have no doubt that he knew that there 330 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: was a problem, right, so he knew percent here he 331 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: is ten minutes later. 332 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: It is It's heartbreaking on so many levels, Kira. Obviously, 333 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk was murdered brutally in front of a crowd 334 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 2: of thousands of people who watched him being shot through 335 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 2: the neck and then essentially bleed out in front of them. 336 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: And I think one of the things that the attorney 337 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: here made a very fine point about is that a 338 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: lot of these charges seven charges were aggravated because children 339 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: were present, children witnessed this, children were put in harm's 340 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: way and that was something that obviously is aggravating here. 341 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: And that's what one of the reasons at this suspect, 342 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: in addition to the alleged murder being political in nature, 343 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: is facing the death penalty. They're going for the death penalty. 344 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: And on the other hand, there is this duality of 345 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: a very a portrait of a very human person, a 346 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 2: very human experience from this entire family, as you mentioned it, 347 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: the mother who essentially discovered that it was her son 348 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: who had done this, the kid who had got a 349 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 2: thirty four out of thirty six on the acts, who 350 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: had a four point zero, who got a full ride 351 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: to college here that that kid was the one who 352 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: allegedly perpetrated. She saw those pictures and said identify them essentially, 353 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: and then those text messages. And I don't think I've 354 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 2: ever experienced a press conference in which we've read text 355 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: messages that are aso fulsome so robust, so apparently allegedly 356 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: self incriminating, and yet on the other hand, so touching 357 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: right with the suspect reaching out to his roommate, who 358 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: is allegedly his boyfriend, who we understand, you know, identified 359 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: as male at birth now identifies as female, and the 360 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: anology he used he was trying to protect him. He 361 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 2: kept calling him my love, my my reason for doing 362 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: this is to protect you, you know, but also asking 363 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: him to delete the messages and not speak to law enforcement. 364 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: So there's this this heartbreaking duality that we're seeing very 365 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: tragically playing out. 366 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: If that's not doubling down, I don't know what. 367 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 4: Is fullsome touching loving it is. 368 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: I am breaking. 369 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 4: Look, I don't know who this particular reporter is, but 370 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: but I will say it's it says something that this 371 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 4: speaks to him in such a touching, moving way. I 372 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 4: see depraved maniacs who just committed cold blood and murder 373 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 4: and and and his boyfriend. His boyfriend is like not 374 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: not saying, dear God, what the hell did you do? Yeah, 375 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 4: he's just like, oh, oh, it was you, okay, you know, 376 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: And he didn't. The boyfriend never said there is anything 377 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 4: wrong with murdering Charlie Kirk. He was perfectly fine with it. 378 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 4: There ain't not nothing touch about these two psychopaths reveling 379 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 4: in their cold blooded murder, and for ABC to think 380 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 4: it is that really tells you how messed up ABC is. 381 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: As before, if you want to hear the rest of 382 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and 383 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: dow the podcast from earlier this week to hear the 384 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: entire thing. I want to get back to the big 385 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: story number three of the week you may have missed, Senator, 386 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: I want to get to something else that happened earlier 387 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: this week, and that was the questioning of the FBI Director, 388 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: Cash Battel. You had the opportunity to talk with Cash 389 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: on a number of different issues. Obviously one of them 390 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: that was in front of mine was the assassination of 391 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: our friend Charlie kirk Well. 392 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely so. This week Cash Battel, the Director of the FBI, 393 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 4: testified in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and I 394 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 4: took the opportunity to question on a number of topics, 395 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: but front and center to urge Cash Battel to follow 396 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 4: the money and in particular to go after Antifa and 397 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 4: to designate Antifa as a terrorist organist. Here's the exchange 398 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 4: cash that I had. Give a listen. I want to 399 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 4: encourage you in the course of this investigation. Absolutely go 400 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 4: after anyone who aided and abedded, But I want to 401 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 4: more broadly encourage you follow the money. The violence we 402 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 4: are seeing is not purely organic. There is I believe, 403 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 4: significant money that is spreading dissension, that is spreading violence. Antifa. 404 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 4: Do you believe Antifa is a terrorist organization? 405 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 5: I believe Antifa is associated with a lot of violence 406 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 5: in this country. As to its designation, I'll leave that 407 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 5: today appropriate authorities. 408 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 4: So I would encourage the administration to designate Antifa as 409 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 4: a terrorist organization, to go systematically after Antifa that committed 410 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 4: acts of violence all over the country, and the shell 411 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 4: casings have multiple references to slogan that Antifa has popularized. 412 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 4: I believe there is considerable money funding it. I would 413 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 4: note that I've introduced legislation called the Stop Funders Act. 414 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 4: Stop Funders Act would add rioting to the list of 415 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,239 Speaker 4: predicate offenses under RICO. I believe the money should be 416 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 4: fuck should be tracked and prosecuted under Rico, and both 417 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 4: the Antifa and Black Lives Matter riots of a couple 418 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: of years ago and the pro open border riots in 419 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: Los Angeles and other cities of this past year. I 420 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 4: believe there was significant money behind those riots. I'm not 421 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 4: the only person who noticed at the anti Semitic protest 422 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 4: and violent protests on college campuses that many of the 423 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 4: tents all matched. And so I would ask, would it 424 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 4: aid your ability to prosecute these matters if Congress passed 425 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: into law the Stop Funders Act and if rioting was 426 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 4: added to the list of predicate offenses for RICO, Yes, 427 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 4: talk to me about the efforts of the FBI to 428 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 4: go after the funders of the anti semitic protests on 429 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 4: college campuses, the pro open border protests in cities, and 430 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 4: potential LGBT violence. Talk to me about the efforts to 431 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 4: go after the money of those who are funding and 432 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 4: promoting violence. 433 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 5: As I've always said, Senator, money doesn't lie, and we've 434 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 5: been following the money. And so that's what we're doing, 435 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 5: issuing lawful process to organizations involved with criminal activity because 436 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 5: the money's got to come from somewhere and it has 437 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 5: to be funded somehow. So we have extensive investigations ongoing 438 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 5: into numerous organizations that are related to violent criminal activity. 439 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 4: Cutting off the money will make America much safer, and 440 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 4: that is the core job of the FBI. And I 441 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 4: thank you for doing your job. 442 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: Now, you look at what you just said there in 443 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: the back and forth, Centator, and this turned very quickly 444 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: into a new policy from the trum iministration as well. 445 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 3: That is the best news coming out of. 446 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 4: This, absolutely so. This testimony was on Tuesday. The very 447 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: next day, President Trump announced he was doing what I 448 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 4: was calling for, which is designating Antifa as a terrorist organization. 449 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 4: I'm going to read to you from Fox News. President 450 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 4: Donald Trump on Wednesday announced he will designate Antifa, a 451 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 4: left wing activist group, a major terrorist organization. Trump described 452 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 4: the group as quote a sick, dangerous, radical left disaster 453 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 4: in a truth social announcement, The president added that he 454 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 4: will be strongly recommending that those funding Antifa be thoroughly 455 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 4: investigated in coordance with the highest legal standards and practices. 456 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 4: The announcement comes just days after Trump said he would 457 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 4: one hundred percent consider the designation. Speaking to reporters in 458 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 4: the Oval Office Monday, Trump accused Antiva participants of being 459 00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: quote professional agitators. In response to the administration's recent crackdown 460 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 4: on illegal immigration. Quote, Antifa is terrible, the President said, 461 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 4: these aren't protests. These are crimes that they're doing. They're 462 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 4: throwing bricks at cars of the Ice and Border Patrol. 463 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 4: They're professional agitators. They should be put in jail. What 464 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 4: they're doing in this country is really subversive. And I 465 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 4: will say this goes right to the heart of a 466 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 4: distinction that I've tried to lay it out layout repeatedly, 467 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 4: which is free speech is protected. You can say things 468 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 4: that are vile, that are hateful, that are horrible, that 469 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 4: we hate, and the First Amendment protects it. Conduct is 470 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 4: not protected. When you engage in violence, it is not protected. 471 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 4: What antifa is doing. Engaging in violence, engaging in harassment, 472 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 4: engaging in threats. That is not protected. And so what 473 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 4: I urge cash Bettel follow the money, go after the money. 474 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 4: And look, I believe there's money that is coming from 475 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 4: foreign nations. There's money that's coming from Cutter, there's money 476 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: that's coming from Iran. There may be money coming from 477 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 4: cut communists China. And there's also money coming from the 478 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 4: gazillionaire left wing funders of the Democrat Party, people like 479 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 4: George Soros at his entire organization that are funding these 480 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 4: radical organizations. And it's one thing to go and prosecute 481 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 4: the individual criminals. We should do that, sure, but if 482 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 4: you want to solve the problem. It's why I've introduced 483 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 4: the legislation, the Stop Funders Act, because RICO is an 484 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 4: incredibly powerful tool to prosecute not just an individual defendant, 485 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 4: but a criminal organization. And criminal organizations are usually structured 486 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 4: with a hub and spokes, and so following the money 487 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 4: is how you get the people writing checks that are 488 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 4: sitting in their Manhattan penthouses funding the anti American, anti Israel, 489 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 4: communist jihadist agitators that are destroying this country. And so 490 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: I got to say, I was really encouraged. I've been 491 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 4: pressing in the first Trump administration, pressed for years for 492 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 4: the first Trump administration to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization. 493 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 4: There was a lot of openness to that argument, but 494 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 4: it never succeeded. They never did it this time. When 495 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 4: I pressed on Tuesday, the next day, the President came 496 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 4: out and said, We're going to do that. That's exactly 497 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 4: the right thing to do. 498 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is big, it's going to be really important. 499 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: It's going to have a huge impact. Going forward. That 500 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: may be the best part of all. And of course 501 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: you know you're doing some right when the left is 502 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: losing their mind. They're saying, oh, this is the president 503 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: trying to silence political organizations. I'm sorry, they're not a 504 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: political organization terrorist organization. There's a big difference between a 505 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: political organization and a terrorist organization, and Antifa has all 506 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: the markings as you described to have a terrorist organization 507 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: going all the way back to twenty sixteen when you're 508 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: first we're calling for this. 509 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 4: If you engage in violence, it is not speech. Violence 510 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 4: is not speech. And by the way, anyone who commits 511 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 4: violence should be prosecuted and go to jail. And that's 512 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 4: true whether you're left wing or right wing. I might 513 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 4: agree with what you're saying, but if you engage in violence, 514 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 4: that is not acceptable. Speech is different from violence. We 515 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 4: how to protect speech and we how to prosecute violence 516 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 4: that put the violent criminals in jail. 517 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center, 518 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to down 519 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: with my podcast, and you can listen to my podcast 520 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: every other day. You're not listening to Verdict or each 521 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: day when you listen to Verdict. 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