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Speaker 1: Festival in This is from November eight when we talked

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Speaker 1: because this is where we met Mr Kevin Pollock for

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Speaker 1: And now he's become a real pal and he's a

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Speaker 1: the stuff that he does. He's in a lot of

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Speaker 1: great movies and a lot of great TV shows right now,

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Speaker 1: including one of my favorite shows on television called Better Things,

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Speaker 1: where Kevin plays Pamela at Lan's brother, and the wonderful,

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Speaker 1: wonderful show Marvelous Mrs Mazel and check out both of

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Speaker 1: those if you haven't checked out Kevin's work before. And again,

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Speaker 1: a long way of setting up the episode where we

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Speaker 1: met Kevin when we talked all about how Rodney Dangerfield

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Speaker 1: worked Live from the l A Podcast Welcome to Stuff

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Speaker 1: you Should know A production of I Heart Radio. Hey

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Speaker 1: and well, hey, I guess I want to say hey

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. But this is a little

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Speaker 1: the l A Podcast Festival, and uh, this is it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Very chic, very chic, and it was a lot of fun. Greed.

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Speaker 1: are you guys doing? Thank you very much for coming

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Speaker 1: to our show. But we do this normally, but um,

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Speaker 1: We should also say hi to everybody in lives Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: streaming folks, Hello, and of course thanks to Audible and

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Speaker 1: so I don't feel n mention anything. Does that count

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Speaker 1: stack of money waiting outside, Mr Monopolies, just hanging out outside? Okay,

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Speaker 1: So um, what do you got anything to start with?

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Speaker 1: I decided to work up a heavy sweat because Rodney

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that he's a an increasingly underappreciated comedian.

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Speaker 1: Like I've talked to it at least a couple of

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Speaker 1: don't I remember that? Alan? It's no respect? No respect.

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Speaker 1: very nice, hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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Speaker 1: There's Charles W. Chuckers Bryant, and we are here at

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Speaker 1: l A popfest and uh all you lovely people, give

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Speaker 1: now we have to start over. How people, how many

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Speaker 1: So he plays onlooker, Um, big part. Uh. And then

426
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Speaker 1: he was in another movie what was that up on?

427
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 1: Called The Projectionist. Yeah, it was a big part in

428
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: a very small movie. He said that it was the

429
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 1: type of movie where they went to go shoot on

430
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 1: location by taking the subway. Um it's probably true, Yeah,

431
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: I think it was. But he played this movie projectionist

432
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: boss and the projectionists had quite an imagination and he

433
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 1: was a superhero and um, Dangerfield was this arch villain nemesis.

434
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: Didn't it didn't go very far, but he learned almost

435
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: nothing about how to shoot a movie because this was

436
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: seventy seven. And apparently his huge, huge breakthrough came in Caddyshack. Right.

437
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: He was already very much a well respected comedian, but um,

438
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,719
Speaker 1: when he when he shot caddy Shack Harold Ramos right

439
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: when he directed it, he said later on that, Um,

440
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: clearly Dangerfield didn't know what he was doing. He was

441
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: a live performer. So when when Harold Raymos said action,

442
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: Rodney Dangerfield was just stand there and be like, you

443
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: want me to do my bit? Now, Like that's what

444
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: action means, right, do your bit? And uh So then

445
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: Rodney would just turn to the camera and like do

446
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: his whole bit into the camera. He's like, hold on,

447
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta get this right here, so pretend

448
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: the camera's not there one and um, he finally got

449
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 1: to do it because that was the thing that just

450
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: broke him out. Yeah, and he hated making movies. Um,

451
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: like you said, he loved performing live in front of people,

452
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: and that's where he got his his rush. And he

453
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: once compared making movies to um. He said, like you

454
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: know when you make a kid write something a hundred

455
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: times on the chalkboard and they've done something wrong, He's like,

456
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: that's what making the movies Like, he hated doing all

457
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: these takes. He hated standing around and waiting. Uh, that's

458
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: why he didn't make a ton of it. And he

459
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: felt like the live audience is like he compared it

460
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: to a heroin attic, like shooting up. You know, like

461
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: he just loved that rush and uh, he definitely didn't

462
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: get that from movies, which I mean you got like

463
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 1: the crew standing around looking at you, waiting for lunch.

464
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't his bag at all. It was

465
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: not his bag. Uh. You found this um description from

466
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone editor Ben Fong Torres, which I think describes

467
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: him like to a t Do you want to read that, sir? Okay?

468
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: So Ben Fong Torres, who was in almost famous, Uh

469
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: he uh, he had a quote he says, Uh, Rodney

470
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: Daserfield looks like a midlife crisis. There's a surface orderliness.

471
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: He's groomed and he's dressed like a businessman at a convention.

472
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: Gray hair slicked back over a haggard shades of mayor

473
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: day leaf face, dark suit, white shirt, bright red tie, silks,

474
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: silk stockings, shiny shoes. But the neatness gives way to

475
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: what he calls the heaviness that looms over him. Life

476
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: gives Rodney Dangerfield the jitters. He's in a constant sweat.

477
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: He wipes his brow incessantly, tugs at his tie, herky

478
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: jerky as he recounts the horrors of his daily life.

479
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: He shifts his shoulders uncomfortably, and his eyes bug out

480
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: of their bags. He moves the floor, mic around as

481
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: he roams the comedy store stage looking for sympathy, but

482
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: all he gets their laughs. I just think that's fantastic, man.

483
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: He nailed Rodney dangerfielding absolutely and his shirt and tie

484
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: that came about because well, he hated clothes in fashion. Yeah,

485
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: let's just go ahead and say that. I think it's

486
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: time he was a slab. He was a slab, he

487
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: said in interviews, how much he hated clothes, how he

488
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: never cared about clothes and fashion and was comfortable in

489
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: a robe basically. And uh, but for one of his

490
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: first acts, he put on the red tie in the

491
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: black suit and like dressed all dapper and when it

492
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: came for the second performance, he was like, well, they

493
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: liked me in that, so I'm just gonna wear that.

494
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: And that became his stick. Was you know, this very

495
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: dapper looking guy who's always very well put together. In fact,

496
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: I just saw earlier today, Um, when he gave out

497
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: a Best Makeup award at the I think eight seven

498
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: Academy Awards. Yeah, and he and he walked up and

499
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: he said, hey, nice took seed to everybody, right, and

500
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: he went underneath torn under shorts. You get this feeling

501
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: that like that was the dead truth. Yeah, she probably

502
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: had like holy underwear. You should look at it. Two man,

503
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: that's a great because he basically does five minutes of

504
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: stand up at the Academy Awards and it gives out

505
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: an award. So Iron Man versus dirty dancing. Yeah, take

506
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: some notes and then some danger fields stuff. Um, should

507
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: we take a break here, Chuck, take an ad break? Yeah, yeah,

508
00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back after this big announcement, folks.

509
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: It's called a podcast event called The Message. That's right.

510
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Speaker 1: Thanks to ge Podcast Theater and Panoply, there is an

511
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: eight part series out right now called The Message, and

512
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Speaker 1: you can get it wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah,

513
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: and you know what, it's gonna blow your collective scientific

514
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Speaker 1: minds because it's currently rocking our worlds. Ye. So the

515
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Speaker 1: message follows the story of Nikki Tomlin, who's a PhD

516
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: in linguistics. Right, that's right at the University of Chicago,

517
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, that's right. And she's following a

518
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Speaker 1: team of cryptologists, which, really, if you say cryptology, you've

519
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: really got me hooked already. Their research thank tank called Cipher,

520
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: and they're trying to dacode a message received from outer

521
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: space from seventy years ago. Yeah, it's from outer space,

522
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Speaker 1: we think. And if you're not familiar with the story,

523
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Speaker 1: well then I guess you better go listen to the message.

524
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Speaker 1: You can get it on iTunes, you can get it

525
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Speaker 1: the stage and subscribe today. Yeah. So thanks to the

527
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Speaker 1: podcast theater and Panopoly for pushing the boundaries of the medium.

528
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Speaker 1: You guys are doing a great job. Subscribed to the

529
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Speaker 1: message and listen today and we're back. All right. I

530
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: told you that would work. So he makes Caddy shock, huge,

531
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: huge hit. Um, he's allowed to kind of just do

532
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: his thing in that movie. And I'm sure most people

533
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: have seen that classic comedy, which Josh said would stink

534
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: if it weren't for Rodney Dangerfield and Bill Mury, Bill

535
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: Murray the rest of it. It's like a tepid coming

536
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: of age dramedy sucks. Ted Knight he was fine, But

537
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you can watch too close for comfort and

538
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: get just as much as you want. You know, I

539
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: just don't think it needs to be in the movie, right.

540
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: I think it was Bill Murray and Rodney Daingerfield. That's

541
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: what made Caddy Shack a classic little Chevy Chase Tad, Tad.

542
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: You know how I feel about Chevy Chase. My father

543
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: raised me to hate Chevy Chase. Did he really? He

544
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: really did. Your dad didn't like him. Oh man, still

545
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: does not like Chevy Chase. Why. I just didn't think

546
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: it's funny or he thought, yeah, yeah, something about Chevy

547
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: Chase sticks in my dad's craw and he passed it

548
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: on me. Isn't that weird? It is totally weird. That's

549
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: what you get when your dad's not a vaudevillian. They

550
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: pass on weird stuff like that to you. You know,

551
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: So he makes Caddyshack. It was a huge hit. Now

552
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: he was a legitimate Uh, he was sought after for movies. Uh.

553
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: And then a nineteen three he wrote a movie called

554
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: Easy Money. Uh, where's anyway. It's actually pretty cool movie.

555
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: It's not bad. It's a little weird structurally, which kind

556
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: of makes sense that he wrote it because he clearly

557
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: did not how to write it right script, you know,

558
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: how to write a bunch of good jokes though. So

559
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: he played Monte Capuletti, an Italian American drunkie head, uh

560
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: baby photographer because because this is back in the early

561
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: eighties when anyone of any ethnicity could play any one

562
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: of another ethnicity. Sure, right, because he was Hungarian born,

563
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: but hey, play an Italian guy. It's cool. Uh. So

564
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: in the movie, his mother in law was the inspiration

565
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: for twin beds and uh hated her son in law.

566
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: And when she died, she said, all right, you can

567
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: have all this money, Um if for one year, I think,

568
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: like ten million bucks, if for one year you quit

569
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: gambling and boozing and smoking and uh and doing drugs.

570
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: So easy Money was you know, I had Joe Pesci

571
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: it was it was okay, right, Like the first half

572
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: of this movie is just a series of vignettes to

573
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: where he just completely screws everything up and like that

574
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: your stomachs all upset and everything, and like you're really emotional,

575
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: and then nothing comes of it whatsoever. Right, and then

576
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: finally halfway through the plot arrives and then it gets

577
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: kind of good. Actually, yeah, I agreed. Yeah, a lot

578
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: of build up, not a lot of payoff in that one.

579
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: But one Roger Ebert uh like the movie, even though

580
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: it was a little weird, and said, uh, basically the

581
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: movie was about watching Rodney Dangerfield. He said, Rodney Dangerfield

582
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: gloriously playing himself as the nearest thing we are likely

583
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: to get to W. C. Fields in this lifetime. Uh.

584
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: And Rodney himself said that it was that was pretty

585
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 1: much me on screen. That's as close as you can

586
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: come to my real life. In Easy Money. Yeah right, yeah,

587
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: here's a maybe photographer. So nin six is when he

588
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: finally makes back to School, which was his biggest hit.

589
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: I think it costs like million to eleven million, grows

590
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: swell over a hundred million, which in nineteen eighty six,

591
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: I mean today that's still good money. Yeah, and today dollars,

592
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: that's a hundred fifty billion dollars it's inflation for you, right.

593
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: Uh and uh, this one he played, he he had

594
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: the idea. I think he got a story credit of

595
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: a guy father that goes back to school who was

596
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: a big loser in life. So he goes back to

597
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: school with his son to get his degree and he

598
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: and he told that idea to Harold Ramos and he

599
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: was like, that's good. But what if he was rich?

600
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: What if he was wealthy and had it all and

601
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: still goes back to school like knowing what he knows

602
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: now with a lot of money, and and Ridney was like, Okay,

603
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: that's the movie. Yeah, it's a good idea, and it actually,

604
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a huge movie when it came out.

605
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: It was the sixth biggest movie of six That was

606
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: behind Top Gun, Platoon, Karate Kid, to Star, Trek four

607
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: and there's one other one that's written down somewhere and here,

608
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: but they're big movies. And it was like the six

609
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: highest grossing movie of the year and it's Rodney Dangerfield,

610
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: right yeah. And so he has hit it big at

611
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: this time and is a huge, huge movie star and

612
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: in the in the biggest comic. I think they did

613
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: a survey in the late seventies, right before his movies

614
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: with college students that said that they were Rodney Danger

615
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: was their favorite comic, and he was sixty one years old,

616
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: fifty eight years old. Same thing basically was when he

617
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: hit it big as a comedian, fifty eight years old, right,

618
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: and like college kids are like into this guy. And actually,

619
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: if you've seen, if all you've seen back to school,

620
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: if that's all you've seen of Rodney Danger, Phil, you

621
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: don't quite have the the understanding of what he was

622
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: actually like. He was pretty edgy comic actually and pretty hilarious,

623
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: and college kids loved him. In the seventies, he hosted

624
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: Sara Live in when when he was I think like

625
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: sixty or something, fifty nine, um, and he started to

626
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: blow up like at about age sixty. Isn't that crazy? Uh?

627
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: Should we tell a few more of his favorite jokes?

628
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: I think it's high time not to you guys. We'll

629
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: go over a few of these. Uh. He has a

630
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: great joke about his psychiatrists. I told my psychiatrist that

631
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: everyone hates me, and he said I was being ridiculous.

632
00:34:52,920 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: Everyone hasn't met me yet. Classic. Uh, let's see. I

633
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: like this one. It's a little brow, but I like it.

634
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: You know what classes when you were alone you fart,

635
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: you say, excuse me, that's class. That weird. So, if

636
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: you haven't noticed, a lot of his jokes were they

637
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: were self deprecating for himself, but also about his family.

638
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: He talked about his wife was dumb and fat, and

639
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: his son it was stupid. Uh. And even when he

640
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: wasn't I mean, it was all a character. So even

641
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: when he wasn't married, he was telling jokes about his wife,

642
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: which must have made it a lot easier when he

643
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: went home at night. Probably so. But one of my

644
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: favorite wife jokes was, I tell you my wife can't

645
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: cook it all? How can toast have bones? And and

646
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: your impression is getting better as well. I'm drinking whiskey,

647
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm not saying that us. Let's see, I've

648
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: got one. Um. So this is so like I said,

649
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: it's a little weird, and I like that in a comic,

650
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: just just bizarre stuff. Um. He was talking about the

651
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: bar that he was doing stand up in that nice says,

652
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: what did joint? I asked the bartender for a double

653
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: and he brought out a guy who looks like me.

654
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: I missed those days, man, where comedians just wrote great jokes,

655
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: set up punchlines, set up punchline over and over. Yeah, uh,

656
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a drink too much. The last time

657
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: I went to the doctor, I gave him a yurine sample.

658
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: I had an olive in it. So classic. And then

659
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: another thing I've learned about Rodney danger Hild when you

660
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 1: go back and listen to his stuff, he wasn't like mean.

661
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: He was self deprecating. Even when he was targeting like

662
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: his family mostly non existent family, all of it reflected

663
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: back on him and basically what a loser he was,

664
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: right um, And he didn't have very many mean jokes.

665
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: He didn't tell like many gay jokes. He he didn't

666
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: tell racist jokes or anything like that, which and this

667
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: is like in the seventies when like everybody was telling

668
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: where that right? But he did have this bat choke

669
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: that stuck out to me. Are you fat? Do you

670
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: look at the menu and say, okay, I love love

671
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: getting laughs from Ronnie Daserfields chocks we should just do this.

672
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: I was about to say, I think we have a

673
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: new act. If you should know one day talk about

674
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: a rush. I got one more. I'll tell you I

675
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: was dating a woman. She called and said, come on over,

676
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: nobody's home. I went over and nobody was home. Good stuff.

677
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: I have a new career reading Rodney, Dangerfield Chokes. That's

678
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: the whole. No one's done that cover comedians. Oh, Sharknado,

679
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: and now this you're all aware of? Chuck predicted Sharknado. Right,

680
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: he did, You're welcome. Okay, no more, you got anymore?

681
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: You like the one about his dog, tell that one? Okay,

682
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: all right? My dog is lazy. He's so lazy. He

683
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: doesn't chase cars. He just lays in the driveway taking

684
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: down license plates. All right, So now we're in. Uh,

685
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: that's enough. Stop last. In the early nineteen eighties, he's

686
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: making these movies. He won Best Comedy Album Grammy for

687
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: the album No Respect, beating out Richard Pryor, Monty Python,

688
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: Gilda Radner, and father Guido Sarducci. Uh. And in nineteen

689
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: eight two, the Smithsonian Institution put his red tie and

690
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: his shirt in the Smithsonian. Uh, the American History National

691
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: Museum of American History. Uh, Right, along with Jimmy Dranny's hat,

692
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: Archie Bunker's recliner, and Charles Lindbergh's plane. But the joke

693
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: Briden he said, was he got a feeling after they

694
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: left they were just gonna use the shirt to wipe

695
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: down the plane. Always self deprecating. Yeah, Andy, And when

696
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: he handed him the shirt, he said, this is a big,

697
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: big deal. I only have two shirts, which may have

698
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: been true. Uh. And also in the nineteen eighties, Um,

699
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: who remembers the Miller Lite commercials from the nineteen eighties

700
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: tastes great less spelling. That man back there has his

701
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: hand up all the best, right. They were great commercials.

702
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: They were named it was like named the eight best

703
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: advertising campaign in history, uh, from McCann ericson the ad agency.

704
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: And uh I went and watched a ton of them

705
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: earlier today, and uh I remember them all from being

706
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: a little kid, and it was weird. They were. Um.

707
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: For those of you who haven't seen him, the premise

708
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: was you would get a bunch of ex athletes and

709
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: then Mickey Spillane and Rodney Dangerfield and some other random

710
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: pop cultural icons at the time, and to sell Miller

711
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: Lite and you know, getting a big argument about tastes

712
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: great and less felling. At the end, Rodney would usually

713
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: come in as the ship who does something wrong to

714
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: spoil everything. It was just such a weird like Bubba

715
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: Smith and Dick Buckus and baseball players. I don't know.

716
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: It was so strange, but they were huge and they

717
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: really the one who could score the weed for everybody else.

718
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: They let him, They led him on. Uh January. Um,

719
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: if anyone remembers his hit rap single rapping Rodney, have

720
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: you guys heard this? Really, it's something else it is

721
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: and it was a big hit. Actually it was a

722
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: top sixty hit, just pretty big, top top fifty nine, Chuck,

723
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: give it its due. That means it was number fifty nine. Yeah, yeah,

724
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: so um it was right behind Uptown Girl. And it

725
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: was Rodney Dangerfield rapping about being old, which sounds really

726
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: bizarre now, but like legitimate rappers at the time, like

727
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: say the sugar Hill Gang, we're rapping about like having

728
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: dinner at your friend's mom's house. So it wasn't that

729
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: far off the mark for the time. You know. It's

730
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: like being nice to your family. That's what raps were about.

731
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: It pretty the good old days. Uh. He was on

732
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: The Simpsons I think a couple of times. Whnet Um. Yeah,

733
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was on more than once.

734
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: I think he's on twice, but in he played Mr

735
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: Burns illegitimate sun herb who got no regard, no regard

736
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: at all. I wonder why they didn't say respect to

737
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: day not. I think there wasn't just a joke messing around. Okay, yeah,

738
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: the man himself was there. I would have been surprised

739
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: if he was like, look, guys, just one thing. I

740
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: don't want to say respect? Maybe not? Can we just

741
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: avoid that. I'm trying new things here, trying to branch out,

742
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: which actually he did branch out. He was actually a

743
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: really creative guy. Um. He had a live Broadway show

744
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 1: that ran for a couple of weeks in called appropriately

745
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: um Rodney Dangerfield Live on Broadway exclamation point. For a

746
00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, he wrote a romance novel, uh called

747
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: La Contessa. And if you google the image for this, um,

748
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 1: it's it's disturbing. Yeah. It's basically like uh, your typical.

749
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: It was like it's fabio basically with a woman, except

750
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: it's got Rodney Dangerfield's face on it. Uh. And and

751
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: it's available on audible. Oh is it really? Yes? It

752
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: is with Rodney Dangerfield reading it. No way, I I

753
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: kid you not what I joke about what's on audible. Well,

754
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: his I looked up earlier to see if his autoback

755
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: autobiography was on there. It is not. It's the only

756
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: Rodney Dangerfield thing on there. It's awesome because it has

757
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: the album RT too, so you get that for free

758
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: with the audiobook. He wrote, Uh, and I guess he

759
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: didn't direct it, but he produced and wrote the movie

760
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: Rover danger Field, the animated UM classic about a dog

761
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: who gets no respect. And then, uh, Mr Oliver Stone

762
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: called him up one day and said, I had this

763
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: role for you in a movie called Natural Born Killers.

764
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: And it's about this sadistic father who was molesting his

765
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: daughter raping his daughter, and I think he'd be perfect

766
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: for it. And Rodney didn't get it at first. He

767
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: was like, why do you want me for for this

768
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: kind of role? He's like you'll see yeah, And uh,

769
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: did you guys see that natural Born Killers? You can

770
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: get the scene on YouTube. It's when Oliver Stone did

771
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: the phony sitcom. That's how they portrayed that that part

772
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: of the movie. Uh. So they have a laugh track

773
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: and it's it's really disturbing. It's like three layers of bizarre, right,

774
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: So there's so it's like Rodney Daningerville is a sadistic,

775
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: ancestuous molester um, but it's Rodney Dangerfields. That's the weird part.

776
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: And then there's a laugh track to just throw you

777
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: off that little extra bit. You know it is. It's

778
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: very jarring. It was pretty well done. But the um.

779
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: The notable thing about that is that Oliver Stone let

780
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: Rodney Dangerfield rewrite all of his lines and he got

781
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: a lot of critical acclaim for it, but he was like,

782
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: Rodney danger Field, we had no idea. And he's like, seriously, Uh,

783
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: if you go today and just google, um, the Rodney

784
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: danger Field of you can find a whole list of things.

785
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: He's such a cultural icon that phrase itself has become

786
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: a thing now, like Petitzera is the Rodney danger Field

787
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: of California wines, or the Memphis, Tennessee City Council is

788
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: the Rodney danger Field of local government. Seriously, that's a thing.

789
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: Even saw a guitar pre amp was known as the

790
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: Rodney danger Field of guitar pre amps. My favorite is

791
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: a palladium is the Rodney danger Field of precious metals.

792
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: That's stupid. We're not making this up. So chuck right

793
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: about now, let's uh, let's step back a second, press

794
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 1: pause on this and have a beautiful little message break.

795
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: Uh So, here's some more examples of the lack of respect,

796
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: and and here's sort of the thing. The irony is,

797
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: he got nothing but respect from his peers throughout his career. Um,

798
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: but outside of that that was still just doses pepper

799
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: throughout his life. And examples of times where he didn't

800
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: get any respect, like when he sued Star Magazine. They

801
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: published a story about him being in Las Vegas, said

802
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: he would drink like tumbler fuls of vodka and smoke

803
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: pot all day long in duke cocaine, which was all

804
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: completely true, but he knew that they couldn't prove it,

805
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: so he sued them for libel and the court ruled

806
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: in his favor. Right, Yeah, so that's respect. Right, So

807
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: they awarded him one dollar for damage to his reputation

808
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: and one dollar for personal distress and then the judge

809
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: went sorry live stream people, I realized he did. He

810
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: did get awarded forty five tho dollars for presumed damages

811
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: and uh, I did a little more research today on that.

812
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: He um. Apparently he blew it all on cocon weed.

813
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: Apparently Star Magazine showed that they didn't turn a profit,

814
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: so he couldn't go after him form Uh, you couldn't

815
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: appeal for more money. So he tried to go after

816
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: their parent company and it went all the way to

817
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court and they said you you didn't start

818
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: the suit that way, So they were no respect. Uh.

819
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: And even in death, as we mentioned earlier, Rodney Dangerfield

820
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: is dead. Why didn't I know that? Oh? I have

821
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: an example for you, hold on before he dies. He

822
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: was on Howard's during the year he died, and somebody

823
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: watched that interview. Yeah, man, that's depressing. He's eighty one.

824
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: He's clearly like at death store, but he still has

825
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: his his sense of humor about him. Um. But somebody

826
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: called in to Howard Stern and said, hey, Rodney, it's

827
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: Bob Hope. I'll see you in fifteen minutes. And Howard

828
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: Stern is like, well, that's not funny. Bob Hope is dead.

829
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: So they were saying like that Bob Hope was calling

830
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: from behind the grave and would see Rodney Dangerfield in

831
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. And if you can't get respect from a

832
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: caller on the Howard Stern show, Where Can You Get Respect?

833
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: So it was actually in that interview, which I said,

834
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: is it's like forty five minutes long and it's completely depressing,

835
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: so don't go watch it. Um but uh, not just

836
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: because he was old, but Howard's trying to talk to

837
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: him about his childhood and stuff, and well, he had

838
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: just written his autobiography and really just laid it all

839
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: out there, like he'd alluded to the rough life that

840
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: he had had in interviews and stuff like that, but

841
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: he published this book right before he died, and it

842
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: was it was rough. Well. I think the saddest thing

843
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: to me about his mom was that despite being completely

844
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: neglected emotionally and getting no love at all as a child,

845
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: he still wanted to be like a good kid, and

846
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: he still worked to support her and like apparently came

847
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: home and showed her his report card. He worked hard

848
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: to get good grades. She wouldn't even look at it.

849
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: She just like signed it without looking. And Uh, that

850
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: was the saddest part is he he still sort of

851
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: defended her in that interview. Uh, like right before he

852
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: was he was dying, and he made up with his

853
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: dad before his dad died. Apparently um, even though he

854
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: never saw him. He said he forgave him for all

855
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah, yeah, really sad stuff. Though. You want

856
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: to hear some more jokes. Uh, well, well, actually, why

857
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: don't you tell him how he died? Okay? Well in

858
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: this interview. In the same interview, he's telling Howard Stern.

859
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: Howard Stern's like, he's about to go in for um

860
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: for the Uh, should I pretend there's not a siren

861
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: in the background. Um, He's going in for surgery, and

862
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: Howard Stern asks him, like, are you afraid you're gonna die?

863
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: And he goes, you know what, dying in surgery would

864
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: be the best way to go, Like I would go

865
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: to they drug me up, I go to sleep, and

866
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: then I just wouldn't wake up. That's like as good

867
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: as it gets, right. So he goes in for this

868
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: very surgery. He falls into a coma during surgery, almost there,

869
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: and then he wakes up. Then he has a heart attack,

870
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: then he dies. That's how Rodney danger Phield went after

871
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: that life that he had. That's how he went. He

872
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: was so close to going the way that he wanted

873
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: to go. And no no respect. You want to hear

874
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: no respect? A year after he died at CNN tried

875
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: to get in touch with him to get his reaction

876
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: about the passing of Johnny Carson and and and if

877
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: you read his obituaries, a lot of them a shocking

878
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: amount mentioned that he was well known for his role

879
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: in The Scout. He wasn't in the Scout. I got

880
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: to the bottom of that. Oh oh late on me.

881
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: He was going to be in The Scout. The role

882
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: was originally intended for him and Sam Kennison, and he

883
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: didn't do it for unknown reasons, and it ended up

884
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: going to Albert Brooks and Brendan Fraser. But it was

885
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 1: one of those things. I think we're one of those

886
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: Internet neat things. On the Internet, someone prints something that

887
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: everyone else's copies and pays it. So I think one

888
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: person wrote that because everything else I saw was worded

889
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 1: the exact same way, like list his movies as The Scout,

890
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 1: which he was never in. Now he wasn't. No thanks

891
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: for looking into that, man. That's what you get when

892
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: you hang with Chuck. But he did find love again,

893
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: um in a in a situation in everyone probably thought

894
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: was like a typical gold digger. He was sixty one

895
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: years old. Uh, and he married a thirty year old

896
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: woman who was really hot and blonde in l A.

897
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: But um, by all accounts everything I looked into, it

898
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: was not that Like, she really really loved him and

899
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: was great for him and they were super happy together,

900
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: um or as happy as he could be. And um,

901
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: it turns out that it wasn't that kind of a

902
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: deal after all, which made me feel good. Yeah. Like,

903
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: for example, when he died, she made sure that his

904
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: funeral wasn't until five or dusk because he always asked

905
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: her not to schedule any appointment for him before five pm,

906
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: so she made sure funeral didn't come until after that. Uh,

907
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: and his funeral was a really big deal. Everyone basically

908
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: came out in droves. Um. His pall bearers included Jim Carey,

909
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: who he took Jim Carey on the road for two

910
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: years when he was a struggling comedian and he opened

911
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: for him in Vegas and Jim Carrey was getting booed

912
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: off the stage. Everyone hated him, and Rodney stuck by

913
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: him for like a full two years, and Jim Carey

914
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: never forgot that. Chris Rock, Tim Allen, Larry David, George Carlin,

915
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 1: Jay Leno, um Adam Sandler and then your boy Michael Bolton.

916
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: Michael Bolton, he was supposed to sing, wasn't he was,

917
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: but he was too choked up to sing at Rodney

918
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: danger Fields funeral. Apparently they were really, really, really tight

919
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: friends because Michael Bolton's song Everybody's Crazy was in Back

920
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: to School and I guess he parlayed that into a

921
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: trip to the set where he got to meet Riding

922
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: dasent Field and they became friends for the rest of

923
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: the life. So Michael Bolton was too sad to sing

924
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: at danger Fields funeral, and you know, everybody was disappointed.

925
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: I bet there were a couple of people there that

926
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, it's okay, Michael, we know you're upset.

927
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: You don't you don't have to do this if you

928
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: don't want it's everybody will understand. That's what they said

929
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: to us before we went on. So we're gonna close

930
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: this with with a final nice little cherry on top

931
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: about um Rodney Dangerfield and sort of his outlook on

932
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: his lack of respect with when it comes to the

933
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: Academy of Motion Pictures motion Picture Sciences. Yes, what it's called,

934
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: as you guys call it in l a the Academy. Right,

935
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: he applied for membership because he wanted to be in

936
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: the Academy and he had the credentials. He was in movies,

937
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: and uh, they said, no, no, you you had to

938
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: be in like at least three major roles. He had

939
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: thirteen under his belt by this time, including Natural Born Killers,

940
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: for which he received a lot of critical praise. Right,

941
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: and they turned him down like jerks. Right. He even

942
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: got a letter from Malcolm McDowell, d d He McDowell.

943
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: Which one was Malcolm McDowell, he's the good one. Are

944
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: they brothers? I don't know? Are they no relation? But

945
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: Roddy okay was Roddy? Was Roddy? It was Malcolm McDowell.

946
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: Was Roddy McDowell and Clocker Gorns or Malcolm McDowell. That

947
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: was Malcolm McDowell. Oh well, okay, good, because I felt

948
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: a lot better about this than Rodney McDowell. Wasn't the

949
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: Planet of the Apes? Yeah, so okay good. I'm glad

950
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: that those two were separated in my mind because I was, like,

951
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: I really liked him in Clockercorns. Good Roddy McDowell, who

952
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: everybody hates, wrote a letter to Rodney Dangerfield. This rejection

953
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: letter that said that he um had not he had

954
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,959
Speaker 1: not had enough of the kind of roles that allow

955
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: our performer to demonstrate a mastery of his craft. Basically,

956
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: you're just playing Rodney Dangerfield and we all know it,

957
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: even though he had all the credentials to get in right. So,

958
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: Rodney Jasfield, He's like, let's see what years it? What years?

959
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: What's new? What's on the horizon? Well, the internet. I

960
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: think I'll build the world's first ever entertainment website. And

961
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: he built his own website and realized that this would

962
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: be a great place for his fans to come like

963
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: vent their anger. And it was, as a matter of fact,

964
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: like this guy like think about that, and um, his

965
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: bands came on and were like, to heck with the

966
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: Academy that kind of stuff, and um, the Academy actually

967
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: relented and said, you're in, man, you're in Rodney, come

968
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: on in. That's right. And what do you say, Nope, yep,

969
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: he said, thanks, but no thanks. He still has a website,

970
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: uh Rodney dot com. And if you go to that.

971
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: I just found this out earlier. There's a section called

972
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: jokes and had audio clips. I was like, oh, this

973
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: is great, but it's not him. It's some dude reading

974
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: like as bad as me, really, just saying his little

975
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 1: one liners over and over. And it's not in front

976
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: of people. It's like dead quiet and it's just some

977
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: dude saying his jokes. It's really weird. I can't tell

978
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: you how much I'd love the cover comedian idea. Just

979
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: you know how stealing from other comics is such a taboo.

980
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: We just need to just to get out in front

981
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: of the Yeah, mix up a little like Mitch Hedberg

982
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: and Rich Little Mind do a little Steven right there

983
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: in the middle. Yea perhaps, Yeah, so that's Rodney Dangerfield. Everybody,

984
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: that's our show. If you want it anymore, you're s

985
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Speaker 1: O l R. Yeah, you can clap if you want

986
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 1: it's hey that right, that was a lot of one. Yeah,

987
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: we had a great time and big thanks to the

988
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: l A Podcast Festival for having us out and um

989
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: yeah please have us back. We'd love to. Yeah, it

990
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: was really cool. We got to see other shows and

991
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 1: uh we did our own and had a nice little

992
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,959
Speaker 1: crowd there, very supportive, nice kind people all the way around.

993
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: And look for the next l A Podcast best coming.

994
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: I would imagine next September. Hopefully we'll be there. Yeah,

995
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: keep keep your ears up for it. We'll mention it

996
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,000
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