1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Ron and Nanian The Car Doctor, nationally 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: recognized auto expert trusted by mechanics, weekend wrenchers and vehicle 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: owners alike. Ron brings over forty years of hands on 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: experience and deep industry insight to help you understand your vehicle. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Join the Conversation live every Saturday from two to four 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: pm Eastern by calling eight five five five six zero 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. That's eight five to five five 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: six zero ninety nine hundred, your direct line to honest 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: answers and practical advice. Looking for more, visit cardoctorshow dot 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: com for past episodes, repair tips, and Ron's latest insights, 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: and be sure to subscribe to the Car Doctor YouTube 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: channel for exclusive videos, real repair footage and more. Now 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: start your enginies. The Car Doctor is in the garage 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: and ready to take your call. 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: How good is your relationship with your mechanic or a mechanic, 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: any mechanic. I've been pondering this one for a couple 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: of days. Now it's a real story from the shop 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: this week. An individual walked into the shop about three 19 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: o'clock Thursday afternoon. Wednesday afternoon, I've got a check engine 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: light on, can you diagnose my check engine light? And 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: that's the way the conversation started. And not a face 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: I recognized, definitely, not a car. I recognized, oh six 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: acur one hundred and thirteen thousand miles on it. And 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: the deeper the conversation got, the more I realized it was. 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: It was a mechanical total. I'll and I'll tell you 26 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: why it was. The approach. It was, what's been going 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: on with this vehicle? Because I always you know, when 28 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: you come in and ask me, can I fix a car? 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: My answer is, of course, but I have questions for you, 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: and that's my job, is what I'm about to become 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: your mechanic on the case. And I said, you know, 32 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: how long has the check engine light been on? It's 33 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: been on for a while, a couple of years. And 34 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: my second question is always who's tried to work on it? 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: And she said a couple of shops and most recently 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: her son in law and the son in law had 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: changed a bunch of ignition parts. So I said, so 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: this is a misfire problem, to which you replied, well, 39 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: it's a cylinder problem. I said, right, it's a misfire problem. 40 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 2: She goes, yeah, that sounds right, and her son in 41 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: law had changed a bunch of parts, and I said ignition. 42 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: She said yes, she verified that, and I said injectors. 43 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 2: She said, sounds right. And she said the problem goes 44 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: away every once in a while and then it comes back. 45 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: And so she you know again, She asked, can you 46 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: fix that? I said, sure, I can diagnose it. I 47 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: can fix it. My question to you is are you 48 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: ready for that? Are you ready to have me go 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: the distance? Are you ready to have someone apply some 50 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: diagnostics to this vehicle and fix it? Are you ready 51 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 2: to go the distance? I always think about that movie 52 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: The Untouchables, right, remember the Untouchables Sean Connery when Kevin 53 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: Costner comes to them and showing Connery initially turns him 54 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: down to work with the Untouchables right to you know, 55 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: do what he has to do and you know, to 56 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 2: get capone. And then Connery takes Kevin Costner to the 57 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: church and he turns to him and he says they're 58 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: having the conversation. He says, are you ready to do 59 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: what needs to be done? Are you ready to go 60 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: all the way? And that's really how you have to 61 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: look at diagnostics. After a couple of years after a 62 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: couple of repair attempts, You've got to ask yourself, are 63 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: you ready to go all the way? Are you just 64 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: poking and hoping? And I told her point blank within 65 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: the first two minutes of our conversation, I said, listen, 66 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: diagnostics starts at two hundred seventy five dollars. And I 67 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: realize we're not supposed to talk about money here on radio, 68 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: and I get that, but you know what we're gonna 69 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: and that two hundred seventy five dollars gets us in 70 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: the door for about an hour and a half of 71 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: some you know, preliminary testing, maybe some involved testing, telling 72 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: us which way to go. Because understand, while a diagnostic 73 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: routine has a set pattern of issues and tests to 74 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: be performed, every diagnosis is not necessarily the same, and 75 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: there are there are varying branches that you have to 76 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: go down to get to a diagnostic conclusion. And I 77 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: said that two hundred and seventy five dollars may include, gee, 78 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: we've got to replace all the parts that you put 79 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 2: in it because they're of substandard quality. It may include 80 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: we have to take those out, examine them, change something, 81 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: alter something, correct something, adjust something that was put in 82 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: because it was done of a substandard quality, because all 83 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: of those repair attempts and all of those alleged diagnostics 84 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: led to nothing, because it's still broken. And she said, 85 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: but why is it so expensive? And I said, have 86 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: the previous three or four repair attempts. Has the money 87 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: you've spent up to this point yielded any results? And 88 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: she said no. And I said, that's why it's expensive 89 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: to you, because you don't recognize the value of a 90 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 2: concerted effort, of a diagnostic routine, of an appro coach. 91 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: I think some of you get stuck into a rut. 92 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: I don't think you see the forest for the trees. 93 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: I don't think you see what you're asking of the mechanic. 94 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: There's a reason why some cars never get fixed, because 95 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: you have to ask yourself, are you ready to go 96 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: the distance? Are you ready to put in everything that 97 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: that vehicle needs? And if not, as I told her, 98 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: this vehicle is mechanically totaled. Unless somebody hits upon just 99 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: that right combination by some dumb luck effort, that vehicle 100 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: will not get fixed because there's not much left. If 101 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: we make an assumption, which is a dangerous thing in diagnostics. 102 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 2: In any other situation. If we make an assumption that 103 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: it's not ignition and it's not an injector, there's really 104 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: only three things. It can be an engine problem, a 105 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 2: computer problem, or a wiring harness issue. You know, for 106 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: a random misfire, for setting a misfire on cylinder three. 107 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: Because there's no rule that says it's ignition, there's no 108 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 2: rule that says it's fuel. It's a misfire. It's a stutter. 109 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 2: If it was skipping, it misses a step she left. 110 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: I think she got it. I don't think she's going 111 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: to get it fixed. And I'm sure she's still looking. 112 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: But my point is, what's your approach? Do you ever 113 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: think about that approach? And for that matter, and you know, 114 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: I always come back to this, I've said for the 115 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: longest time. If you're ever twenty one and you've been 116 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: driving a car, who is your regular mechanic, who's the 117 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: doctor in attendance, who's the person that you trust to 118 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: take care of that vehicle on a regular basis, And 119 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: if you're constantly changing mechanics, maybe it's you. Are you 120 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: looking for the right thing? There are some people I 121 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: just you know, I listen to how people think when 122 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: I'm in group gatherings and nobody knows I have an anonymity, 123 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: nobody knows who I am or what I do, And 124 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 2: I try to tell anybody what I do because it's 125 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: interesting to hear the other side. You know, how mechanics 126 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: are crooks, how the industry is is slanted, how nobody 127 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: can get their car fixed, how everything is so expensive, 128 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: but people will keep throwing money down the well into 129 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: that same hall without any sequential, logical, common sense, sequence 130 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: of repair or approach. Change your thinking, change how you 131 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: do it, change what you do. I encourage you. I 132 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: encourage you to sit down and talk to a mechanic 133 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: and say, hey, what will this get me? No, I realize. Look, 134 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: I'll be the first to admit it. There's a bunch 135 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: of dopes in my industry. There really is. There are 136 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: some of the dumbest people I know turn screwdrivers all 137 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: day long. 138 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: Uh. 139 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: You know, I talked to I talked to training directors 140 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: and some of the training people that you know put 141 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: together classes from around the country and we talk about 142 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: different places, and he said, Ron, some of these guys 143 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: are as dumb as a bunch of rocks. They're still 144 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: banging on hammers trying to fix cars and it doesn't work. 145 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: And I get that, So part of that's your fault, though, 146 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: because part of that is you've got to demand better. 147 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: You've got to go find that shop and support that 148 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: shop and not the guy who's doing it cheaper, because 149 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: that's what you want to hear. I wonder if that 150 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: accurate can be fixed. Personally, I think it's got a 151 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: bad cylinder head. Personally, I think the exhaust valve is 152 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: loosening the seat on number three. And that was just 153 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: from her description. But do I tell her that? Was 154 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: I obligated to tell her that standing at the counter 155 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: without any proof of diagnostic tests to back it up. 156 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I just know that some people 157 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: are going to spin and they're going to go around 158 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: in circles, and that's what she's going to do. And 159 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to see that happen to you. I 160 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: want to see you get your car fixed. I want 161 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: to see you start to make the approach of what 162 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: does it take to keep this car in good running order. 163 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: Amanda is a driver for one of our local parts houses. 164 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: She's a young single mom. She's working hard. She delivers 165 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: parts and somehow this week she figured out who we 166 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,239 Speaker 2: are and what we do. You know, she told me 167 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: this week, and she must be right. She said, you're famous. 168 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: I said really, I said, how can you say that? 169 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: She says, well, you're on the radio, you have a podcast, 170 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: you do this, you do that. I said, yeah, I 171 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: got three affiliates. Look at that, and she started listening 172 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: to the show. She came in two days later. She said, 173 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: I've got to tell you, I listened to a couple 174 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 2: of episodes. You've changed how I've looked at my car, 175 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: and You've made me change and made me think about 176 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 2: how I want to get my car repaired. I used 177 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: to hate my car. Now I like my car, but 178 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: I don't think so much of my car anymore. Is 179 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: just it's transportation, and that's all it's supposed to be, 180 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: to keep me safe and get me back and forth 181 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: to work, and that I shouldn't get a car beyond 182 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: my lifestyle. She said, you really made me think about it. 183 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: You know what, That's part of what I'm supposed to do. 184 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: And that's the fact that I did that with Amanda 185 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: is why I'm doing the opening conversation today about you know, 186 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: do you approach your mechanic the right way. I'm trying 187 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: to get everybody to think here. You know, it's that 188 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: opening comments. It's that first date that decides how long 189 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: the relationship is going to go on for and will 190 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: everyone benefit from it? Eight five five five six zero 191 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: nine nine zero zero. I'm running Ny in the car. Doctor, 192 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away, hey, 193 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 2: before we go to the phones, I have a question 194 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: for Tom. Tom, you realize that we are one week 195 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: away from opening day. I know, so for the next 196 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 2: seven days, the Giants are the Giants are super Bowl contenders, 197 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: and it could change at the moment of kickoff. 198 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 4: Oh, it'll change it before the moment of kickoff. You 199 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 4: know that we do this every year. 200 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: Every year we go through this. Now, their first four 201 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: games are with all first place teams, right, yep, So 202 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 2: they have to win. I just want to put it 203 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: here on public record. They have to win the first 204 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: They have to win at least two of the four, right. Okay, 205 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 2: so you heard it here first. I'm not being megan, 206 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: but what are the odds that they lose their They 207 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 2: lose three quarterbacks in the first four games, and they 208 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: lose all four games. 209 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's entirely possible. However, my son and I did 210 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 5: go to the preseason game and they looked pretty good 211 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 5: all preseason Noll Granted, that's preseason, right, but all all 212 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 5: three strings, first, second, and third string all looked pretty good. 213 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 4: My son's jets, however, wen't want to talk about that. 214 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: We won't talk about that, so but I just listen. 215 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: I wish it's the best. I hope for the best. 216 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: I tried it on chat GPT, by the way, I 217 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: went to AI and I asked it, what will the 218 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: Giants record be this year? Chat gpt is predicting six 219 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: and eleven, So we'll see how smart artificial intelligence really is. 220 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 4: You mean chat gpt actually didn't overload the computer and 221 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 4: drop it offline. 222 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: No, and he didn't say anything really bad, but he 223 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: kind of agreed with me that they've got to win 224 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: the first two of four. So I'm basing my what 225 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: I'm saying on some sort of computer calculation. But anyway, 226 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: that's that's the last we'll talk about until next week, 227 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: all right, I promise. So let's go talk to Micah 228 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: and Maine. Micah, my main man, what's going on? Brother? 229 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: Well? First I needed to wish you of related birthday, 230 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: Happy birthday, because I missed it this year. I was 231 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 3: kind of busy with other things and usually I send 232 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 3: you a card. But you know, we were born within 233 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 3: seven days of one another, right to the same year, 234 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: and I impact. 235 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: Back at your brother. So but yes, thank you very much. 236 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: So what's going on? 237 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: But well, I'm calling about really what your monologue was about, 238 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: and it's about developing relationship and trusting the people that 239 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 3: work on your car. You know, I got a twenty 240 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: fifteen Suprew legacy that I keep in great shape and 241 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: I always maintain it and my dealership knows that. And 242 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: I've got a great relationship with a dealership. When I 243 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: go down there for my regular service, usually you know, 244 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: bring cookies or cupcakes or something. In fact, we celebrated 245 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: ten year old, my ten year anniversary of buying the 246 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 3: car from them, and I brought them three dozen cupcakes 247 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: to celebrate with the whole crew for maintaining it as 248 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 3: well as they did. 249 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: Now, why you let me ask you something, Michael, Why 250 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: do you look at it like that? See your than 251 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: a lot of people. A lot of people look at 252 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: a repair shop as an adversarial situation. But yet you 253 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: embrace it. Was it something in your family upbringing? Was 254 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: your dad a mechanic? 255 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 3: No, but my dad treated people with respect for what 256 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: they did, and he always knew. My dad was a psychologist. 257 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: That may say something about it do, but he knew 258 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: that you treat people for who they are, and you 259 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: expect people to be who they are, and that's all 260 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: you can expect from people. And the people that I 261 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: work with, whether they're doctors, whether they're lawyers, whether they're mechanics, whatever, 262 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: I respect them for the work that they do, and 263 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: if they're working for me, they're doing their best to 264 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: take care of me, or at least I hope they're 265 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: doing their best to take care of me. And I 266 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: need to trust them just like I want them to 267 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 3: trust me. And I want to let them, let them 268 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: know that I appreciate what they're doing for me. And 269 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: it's not that I expect something back and forth from them. 270 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: I'm not doing this because I expect something better from them, 271 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 3: but they know that I appreciate them. I know that 272 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: they appreciate me as a customer. They know that I 273 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: maintained my car, and therefore they treat me. I don't 274 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: know with more respect. But they know that there is 275 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 3: the respect that I have for my vehicle and for 276 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: what they do. So they do what they can for me, 277 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 3: just like I do what I can for them. 278 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: Sure a false statement, Micah. You're counting on them to 279 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: solve your problem if and when you have one, and 280 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: that's a luxury that you treat yourself to. 281 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: Fair statement, It absolutely is. And I had a problem, 282 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: and I had a major problem. They were a mistake 283 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: that was made. And it's not the question that a 284 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: mistake has made, it's how do you solve the problem. 285 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: So what happened? My breaks were making all sorts of noises. 286 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 3: I was getting that grunting sound right when you come 287 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: to the full stop. And I knew that I was 288 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: due for breaks, or I was coming close to being 289 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: due for breaks. I was told me, told that, I 290 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: don't know, six months ago, they said you don't need 291 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: it now, we're going to keep an eye on it, 292 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: but we're coming close. And I maintained the car regularly, 293 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: so I trust them to tell me. So I was 294 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: making this noise, I said, well, now's the time. And 295 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: I made an appointment to get my breaks taken care of, 296 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: and I made the appointment on a Thursday. I brought 297 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: the car down they offered me owner and they called 298 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: me about two hours later and said, Mike, I know 299 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: you used something to take care of the rust, and 300 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 3: I do. I use rust Check, which is a great product. 301 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: It's a number one rust control organization in Canada. I've 302 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: been using it for four or five years. They said, 303 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: there's this goo all over the brakes and all over 304 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: the struts. It's run down and we're pretty sure that's 305 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: what it is, and we can't work on the brakes, 306 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: and you should probably get in touch with rust Check. 307 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: So I did, and I've been using them for a 308 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: while and I know the owner and I know the 309 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: manager called them right away. It's about eight o'clock in 310 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: the morning, and the manager said, well, the owner's not here, 311 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: let me give him a call. Ten minutes later, the 312 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: owner called me at home and he said, I'm going 313 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: right down to the dealership and let me take a 314 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: look at it. And he went down to the dealership 315 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: and he looked at it. And the next minute, I'm 316 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: getting a call because I know the service writers, but 317 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: I also know the service director. And the service director 318 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: calls me and says, Mike got the owner of rust 319 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: Check here and he wants to take the car. I said, okay, 320 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: for me to give it to him the clean up. 321 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 3: Do you want him to clean it up? And I said, Paul, 322 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: it's the name of the service director. Do you want 323 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 3: to clean it up or should I have him do it? 324 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: He says, I think you should have him do it, 325 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: but I just want permission for him to be able 326 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: to take the car from me. I said, fine. He 327 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: took the car back to his shop, cleaned it up 328 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: within an hour, had it back at my super dealership. 329 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: Everything was taken care of, and we needed the breaks 330 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: and we did the brakes anyway. 331 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: And that's the moral there, right that there's always a 332 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,359 Speaker 2: solution to the problem. It's how you approach it exactly. 333 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: And I told when I called, when I spoke with 334 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: the owner of uss Check, I said, look, I'm not 335 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: angry at you. These things happen. Must have been some 336 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: kind of overspray. It takes place. He says he understood that. 337 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 3: He knew I wasn't yelling at him. I just wanted 338 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: to get the problem resolved, and he took care of 339 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 3: it right away, and I'm going to go back to 340 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: him next year when it's time to do the undercoding again. 341 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: You know where else that problem occurs, Micah. And then 342 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: I'll let you go is you take your car to 343 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: a car wash. And I'm not saying well car washes 344 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: are like this, but we've seen cases where people go 345 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: to a car wash and they you know, what do 346 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 2: you do? You go through, you get the ap plant 347 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: them service, you roll through the line, they wash the car, 348 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: they clean everything, and then when they come out they 349 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 2: do tire shine on the outside of the tires if 350 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: they're aggressive and they put too much tires shine on, well, 351 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: incorrect tire shine or too much tire shine. We've got 352 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: cases of it where it's documented it will actually cause 353 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: where degradation of the tire itself, but if it gets 354 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: on the break assemblies, it will cause a similar problem 355 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: to that. So you always have to be aware of that. 356 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to talk to you, Michah. You keep 357 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: them coming and you'd be safe up there in Maine. Micah. 358 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: My main man, I love that I'm running any in 359 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: the card doctor. I'll be back right after this. Don't 360 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: go away. Oh let's see what this button does. Oh 361 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: it turns me on. Look at that. I'm on the air. 362 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: Let's go over to Rocky and Maine. I have to 363 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: make Tom nervous today. Let's go over to Rocky and Maine. 364 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah yet, get get yet? How are you, sir? What's 365 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 2: going on? 366 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 6: I'm good around you now, not bad? 367 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: What's cooking? 368 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: Hey? 369 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 6: I've got a ninety two jeep Wrangler with a two 370 00:17:54,640 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 6: point five four cylinder. Okay, And about six months ago, 371 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 6: so hell a little more than that, I had the 372 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 6: whole quat chin slave so on the flywheel, the whole 373 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 6: nine yards replaced. And I told the mechanic, I says, 374 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 6: you know, check that remain while you've got a pirate 375 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 6: and make sure that's okay. And and he did. And 376 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 6: in about a month after I got it back, that 377 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 6: started the leacoln. 378 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: Of course, so that's Murphy's law. You're wemon, you're surprised 379 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 2: at that. 380 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 6: Well, you know, I was kind of of the opinion, 381 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 6: if it ain't broke, don't fix it, right and h 382 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 6: But I guess I got beat on this one. I 383 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 6: just didn't know. I know, you you have a lot 384 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 6: of sponsors of different chemicals and whatnot that do wonderful things. 385 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 6: And I was just wondering if there's anything you would 386 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 6: recommend to maybe put off changing that seal. 387 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: No, I you know, there's listen for all my sponsors 388 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: and and understand the greater majority, I think just about 389 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: every one of my sponsors as a product I've either 390 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 2: used and that's sort of what's led them to us, 391 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: or it's something that I've seen used and that's what 392 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: sort of led them to us. So I have great 393 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: faith in many of the products. The rear main seal stuff, 394 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: nothing comes to mind because frankly, it's probably just tired. 395 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: Now you could try, all right, how many miles are 396 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: on this little GM for banger. 397 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 6: Thousand? 398 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: Right? So is this a case of excessive crank case 399 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: pressure pushing oil out the rear main? You know, what 400 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: does the pcevalve, What does the crank case ventilation system 401 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: look like? Or and or you know, if you were 402 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 2: to pop the dipstick up, you know, a quarter of 403 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: an inch so it can case and drive it around, 404 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 2: does that slow down the leak? And what that would 405 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: an old likelihood prove to us is that we have 406 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: you know, a moderate amount of blowby and you know, 407 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: relieving crank case pressure may help the problem. My My 408 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: comment in the back of my head goes though, but 409 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: you know, this is a four cylinder GM that's four 410 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 2: ninety two, two thousand. What are we thirty five years old? 411 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 3: I do? 412 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: I have rings that are stuck in the in the grooves, 413 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: and it's just it's just time. Does this consume oil? 414 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: Has this got an oil burning issue? 415 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 4: Rock? 416 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 6: No, it doesn't consume a drop. I've owned this thing 417 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 6: for twenty five years and you know it's I just 418 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 6: use it. I put about a thousand miles a year 419 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 6: on it at the hunting vehicle in Northern Main and 420 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 6: you know. 421 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: I'm surprised. I'm surprised they didn't do the rearmain because 422 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: they were looking right at it. It's a one piece seal. 423 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 6: And that was probably my fault. I should have just 424 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 6: told them to replace it. 425 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 2: But that was the moment. Yeah, that that really was 426 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 2: the moment. Yeah, you kind of goofed on that one, brother. So, but. 427 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 6: I've never had a remain replaced before. Is that something 428 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 6: where you can get into big trouble if things don't 429 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 6: go right doing it? 430 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 2: You know, it's like any other automotive repair get into 431 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: big trouble if things don't go right. Period. Tell me, 432 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 2: tell me in order repair that if things don't go right, 433 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: you're not going to get into trouble, right, you know, 434 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: it's it's there is a little bit of finesse there. 435 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 2: There's a little bit of experience that's you know, this 436 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: isn't you know, doing a remained seal is not something 437 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 2: you want somebody to do for the first time as 438 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: a practice step, you know, it's it's I've done more 439 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: than a few of those. One of the things I 440 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: like for seal removal is I will take a small 441 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 2: drill bit drill into the seal. I will put a 442 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 2: self tapping screw and that becomes my pride point. And 443 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: this way, I'm not taking a chance of touching the seal. 444 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: So I don't nick the seal, but more importantly, I 445 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 2: don't nick the crank shift right. So you know, hopefully 446 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: your guy knows this, if he's old school, I'm sure 447 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: he does. It's not something I invented. I picked it 448 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 2: up from the guy in front of me, you know, 449 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: So just just know that that's one way to look 450 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: at it. You know, at this stage, at one thousand 451 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: miles a year, how much of a leak is it? 452 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: My real concern. And this is what's kind of got 453 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: me scratching my head. Is the guy that put the 454 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: clutch in, you know, and he I go, I guess 455 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: it wasn't leaking at that point, but you know, is 456 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: this a case of is the oil leak going to 457 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 2: you know, somehow damage the clutches? Oil continues to come out. 458 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 459 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: The one thing I want to mention, and I don't 460 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: want to mention this because now I'm gonna throw darts 461 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: and it's gonna put doubt in the back of your mind. 462 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: I've seen this twice in my lifetime career as a mechanic. 463 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: Flywheel bolts get overtrqued and they warp, you know, they 464 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: distort the end of the crank and what is the 465 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: seal right against right? You know? Is that possible? Man? 466 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: It takes a lot. I've never seen I've never seen 467 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,239 Speaker 2: a four cylinder GM product do that. 468 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 6: But I don't. 469 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 2: I don't base a lot of my beliefs on well, 470 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: I've never seen it do it, so it can't be bad, 471 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 2: you know. But it's it's it's always in the back 472 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: of my mind. Yeah, it's coincidental, It's it's probably just 473 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: thirty five years old and one hundred thousand plus miles 474 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: and it's just tired, you know. So I say, I say, 475 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: count your losses. Pull the trans pull the flywheel, put 476 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: a seal in it, drive it, do a PCV valve. 477 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 2: Drive it. Let's see where we go. Either that or 478 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 2: if it's a thousand mile a year hunting vehicle, you 479 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: know what it's going to be. It's going to be 480 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: out in the woods and covered in snow and rust 481 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: and water and everything else. If we get a nice 482 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: if we get a nice coating of oil underneath it, 483 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: it'll never rot out. 484 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 6: So I just redid the whole frame and recoated it inside. Now, yeah, 485 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 6: it just did upgrade on it. 486 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: You know, it's always that last part that you don't change. 487 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: You ever notice that It's always that, It's always that. Well, 488 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to do this because you know it's Look, 489 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: it gives you something to laugh at. If you can't 490 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: laugh at life, then what's the point. So best answer 491 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: I got. 492 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 6: I think I'm gonna let it leak this fall and 493 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 6: then see what happened and then deal with it before 494 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 6: another season. 495 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, pull, like I said, pull the dipstick up a 496 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 2: little bit. Just so it's going to breathe out the 497 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: crank case that way. See see if that makes a difference. 498 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 2: And if it does, then that tells you the PCV 499 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: is restricted and it'll give you another direction to go. 500 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: All right, okay, so God enjoyed the conversation. Good luck 501 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: to you, kiddo. 502 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 6: Thanks a lot. I appreciate you. 503 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 2: Very welcome. Let's uh, let's plug take a pause. When 504 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 2: we come back, we'll go to Ted. I'm running dy 505 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: in the car doctor. I'll be right back right after this. Hey, 506 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: let's go to Ted at Illinois seventeen Silverado. Ted. Welcome 507 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 2: to the car doctor, sir, how can I help? 508 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 7: Ron? Thanks a lot for taking my call. I enjoy 509 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 7: your show and I value your advice. 510 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. What's going on? 511 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 7: I've got twenty seventeen Chevy truck Silverado, four wheel drive, 512 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 7: five point three motor, and the right front break was 513 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 7: hanging out the caliper, and you know, you'd take off 514 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 7: and it'd be fine, and after about uh maybe twenty 515 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 7: minutes and several stops, it would start hanging up and 516 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 7: it would get hot. And so I thought, well, the 517 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 7: caliper must be stuck or something. And so I pulled 518 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 7: the caliper off and rebuild it, put new seals in 519 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 7: it and a dust of dust seal too, right, and 520 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 7: put it back on. 521 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 2: And that same thing. 522 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 7: Nope, nope, yeah right, it wasn't And it's and it's 523 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 7: if I like, if I stop after it does it 524 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 7: if I pull over and either break the brake line, 525 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 7: you know, unloosen the brake line, the caliper line, or 526 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 7: do the bleeder and let a little flood out of it. 527 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 7: And it doesn't really squirt out of their real you know, 528 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 7: hard or anything. 529 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 2: It's a dribble. 530 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 7: Does it does come out right? 531 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: It's a dribble. And let me let me ask Let 532 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: me ask you a couple of questions to as simple 533 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: as they may seem. How do you know the right 534 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 2: front is getting hot? 535 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,479 Speaker 7: It gets hot? I mean you go around to it. 536 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 7: You can smell, and you can the left front you 537 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 7: can grab with your hand and know you know, I mean, 538 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 7: it's warm, right hot, But right front you can't touch. 539 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 2: But I mean you don't know it from behind the wheel. 540 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: You get out of the truck, you drive twenty minutes 541 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 2: to your destination. You get out of the truck, and 542 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: that's when you get the sensation that the break is hot. 543 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 7: Well, when it gets after, you know you could when 544 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 7: you let up on it, you can tell you're slowing 545 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 7: down quicker. I'm used to the truck. I've had the 546 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 7: trucks as it was new, right, so you know, you 547 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 7: can tell it's slowing down a little bit. It's not 548 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 7: as free, and so I can tell that it's it's 549 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 7: tightening up. And then I get a vibration if I 550 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 7: just keep driving. 551 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: Okay, that's the answer I'm looking for. So, so we've 552 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: clearly got something going on. Right front, you've done a caliper. Right, 553 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: how about the left front break hose? And here's here's 554 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: here's the reason why. Okay, believe it or not. And 555 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 2: I've seen this both ways. I've seen it where the 556 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 2: right front gets hot and it's the right front hose. 557 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 2: I've seen it where the right front gets hot and 558 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: it's the left hose. Because the left hose peels internally 559 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: and acts like a check valve, and it constantly applies 560 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: pressure to the right front. It doesn't allow it to release. 561 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 7: I would never guess that why. But I did get 562 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 7: two break lines right order, and they're Dorman. I assume 563 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 7: they would be pretty good. 564 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be fun and for the right end. 565 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 7: Last night was getting ready to go ahead and replace 566 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 7: the one that's getting hot, but I thought, I'm just 567 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 7: gonna get both of them. 568 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 2: I would do both. I would do both. It's going 569 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: to eliminate a lot of questions. How many miles are 570 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 2: on this truck? 571 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 7: Nine ninety five thousand. 572 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 2: It's a little early. It's a little early, but it's 573 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 2: right on the fuzzy edge of Yeah, okay, one hundred 574 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: thousand miles. It's possible. Anything's possible, hard use, highway use, 575 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 2: construction used. What do you do with the truck? 576 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 7: Well, I actually just drive it back and forth to 577 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 7: the farm and I go hunting with it, and you know, 578 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 7: but I it doesn't get a whole lot of really 579 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 7: hard use. I barely ever use the four wheel drive. 580 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: And I think I think the two rubber break hoses 581 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: are the next step. Head and just just pay attention 582 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: to when you bleed it? Does it? Does it bleed 583 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: equally right and left and and in the rear? Okay, 584 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 2: you know, do any of the do any of the 585 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: does any of the bleed give you a sense that 586 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 2: there's a restriction elsewhere in the system, But the most 587 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: common cause is one of the front break hooses. As 588 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: bad does the truck pull to the right when the 589 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: brake gets hot. 590 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 7: Not really, I mean not really hard or anything. I 591 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 7: mean it just you can just feel it in the 592 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 7: stream right, just feel the vibration and and you know 593 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 7: it's it's happening. 594 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: Have you had the occasion. It would be interesting to see. 595 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: And it takes some work and you have to be quick, 596 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: but you get it to happen. And the way we 597 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: would the way we found it in the shop. I'll 598 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 2: say it like this, the way we find things in 599 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: the shop. Sometimes, Well, we'll drive the vehicle, we'll replicate 600 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: the problem. Yeah, right, the right front starting to drag. 601 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: We'll bring it in, get it up in the air 602 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: real quick, and we'll crack the left front bleed while 603 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: somebody's spinning the wheel. While they're spinning the wheel, the 604 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: wheel is tight, we crack the left front. The wheel 605 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: spins free, and it's weird. But it proves to us 606 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 2: that it's the hose, even though it shouldn't be the hose, 607 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: because well it isn't. It isn't. It's because when the 608 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: hose goes bad, when a hose goes bad. Internally, it's 609 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: it's kind of like a backwards banana peel. It folds 610 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: upwards and acts like a check valve, so the apply 611 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: still stays. When we when we burp the side that's 612 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: got the bad hose, we dump pressure that that allows 613 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: the banana peel to fall forward and pulls the pressure 614 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: off the other side. That's the That's the theory if 615 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: you went to a if we went to a break 616 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: class and we talked to a brake instructor, that is 617 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: the verbatim textbook theory that they would spa to us. 618 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: I don't disagree, and the theory seems to hold water 619 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: because I've fixed more than a few by doing that 620 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: test and looking at it. I've cut break hoses open, 621 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: I think, and all the break hoses I've ever cut 622 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: open in my career, I think I found two bad 623 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: ones legitimate, But I'd also have to cut it at 624 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: the right moment. I'm not in the habit of slicing 625 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: break hoses for the length. And it comes back to 626 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: where I originally finished our conversation. It's cheaper at one 627 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: hundred thousand miles and eight years old. Put two hoses 628 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: on it. Move on. See what you see what you get? 629 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: So all right, kid on, if you need more, and 630 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: if you need more, you know where to find me. 631 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: You were going to say. 632 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 7: Something, I'm just going to tell you thanks a lot. 633 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 7: I really appreciate the help. 634 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 2: You're very welcome, sirre I'm here. If you need more, 635 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: you'd be well. Bye bye eight five five five six 636 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: zero nine nine zero zero running ding the car doctor. 637 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 2: I'll be back right after this. You know, I started 638 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: the hour talking about diagnostics. I want to end the 639 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: hour talking about diagnostics. This comes to us from Jacob 640 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: Guarding as twenty eleven Buick Enclave Ron. My car started 641 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: out with a leaking number six injector, diagnosed from a shop. 642 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: I replaced all six injectors. I continued to have a leak. 643 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: I continued focusing on leaking injectors till I checked fuel 644 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 2: pressure on the fuel line. It's always at twenty psi 645 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: and the fuel rail was fifty eight. I replaced both 646 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: in tank and high pressure fuel pump. Now I have 647 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: sixty PSA in the line seven hundred psi on the rail. 648 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: The leaking injector problem is gone. So just to point 649 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: out the obvious, you know, that there was some sort 650 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: of misdiagnosis done their Jacob right that they told you 651 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: it was an injector, it was not. It was probably 652 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: in the high pressure fuel pump itself or one of 653 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: the other injectors. I'm not sure why we're firing the 654 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: parts cannon here, but it seemed like a better diagnosis 655 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: could have been done for that particular problem. That isn't 656 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: why I'm reading this. After that, I had a bog 657 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: shutter problem when I got up to around seventeen hundred rpm, 658 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: but it's idol as smooth as can be. When I 659 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: would take it for a test drive at that time, 660 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: it would hesitate very obviously, but then would start to 661 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: throw check engine light with codes of misfire and cylinders 662 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: two and three. I was suggested to check out the 663 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: catalytic converters. I took the cat off, I took the 664 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 2: two off. I took the two cats off the exhaust 665 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: manifolds and houlowed them out, but I left the third 666 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 2: one alone. I have checked for vacuum leaks with starting fluid. 667 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: I've tried a new miss aerphlow sensor I took back 668 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: since the rings were the same as the old one 669 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: new spark plugs, moved coils around to make sure it 670 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: wasn't a coil check from the ECM, plugged every coil 671 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: and the injector continuity for the injector connector for continuity 672 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: to rule out wiring harness. Replaced the perch solenoid on 673 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: the intake, and just today replaced the vent solenoid on 674 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: the charcoal canister. Now, after the vent's solinoid driving, it 675 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: hesitates at first, but I can get it up to 676 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: speed with small hiccups. You can feel Whoever, no codes 677 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: at all. I am borrowing a top down air diagnostic 678 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: pro scan tool and doing an electric throttle relearn as 679 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: I typed this out, Jacob, First of all, you need 680 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: to put cats back on the car because it's going 681 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: to affect how you diagnose it. You can't look at 682 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: fuel trim, you can't do any sort of measurements for 683 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 2: diagnostics at this point because it's gonna at some point 684 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: it's going to set a catalytic converter fault. And you know, 685 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: is that real is it not? I would want to 686 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: know where's manifold vacuum when all of this is going on. 687 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: I'd want to know if you think this is related 688 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: to those two cylinders. If you've done all your ignition, 689 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: can you do a flow rate test on the injectors? 690 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: If the problem wasn't there until the injectors were replaced, 691 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: how do you know you've got good injectors? Where did 692 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: they come from? Firing a parts canon is a risk, 693 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: and you're now going to face the problems associated with that. 694 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: But do some further testing like I suggested, and give 695 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 2: me a call. I'm ronning Andy in the card doctor 696 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: till the next time go. Mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.