Speaker 1: Kabbooms.
Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes
Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants
Speaker 2: of the Old Republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He
Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the
Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: The Clearinghouse of Hot takes break free for something special.
Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now in.
Speaker 1: The air everywhere. Welcome to another Pipe and Hot edition
Speaker 1: of the Extra Crispy, Extra Spicy Fifth Hour with me,
Speaker 1: Ben Mahler and Danny g Radio, and a very happy
Speaker 1: Friday to you. The first full weekend in the month
Speaker 1: of September, and more importantly, we are now heading in
Speaker 1: to a full football season. We had last night compelling
Speaker 1: theater as the Baltimore Ravens tried to pull out a tie.
Speaker 1: Actually we're gonna go for the win at the end
Speaker 1: on that Thursday night game last night. We talked about
Speaker 1: it on the Overnight Show, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: rehash that here because we already discussed it. But if
Speaker 1: you missed the original recipe podcast, the Non Extra Country Podcast,
Speaker 1: it was a humdinger, a Barnburner of a finish as
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson made multiple mistakes at the end of that game.
Speaker 1: And Lamar is a polarizing figure, as we know, because
Speaker 1: he does things that nobody else does in the NFL. Right,
Speaker 1: there are some things that Lamar Jackson does that nobody
Speaker 1: else can do in the NFL, and there's also basic
Speaker 1: things that other quarterbacks are able to do that Lamar
Speaker 1: messes up all the time. And that game was the
Speaker 1: persona ocasion, was the epitome of the Lamar Jackson experience.
Speaker 1: And the Ravens didn't play all that well. There were
Speaker 1: some defensive breakdowns. They have a new defensive coordinator, several
Speaker 1: new coaches on the staff, and they still had a
Speaker 1: chance to tie. And if they had scored the touchdown,
Speaker 1: the lively was out of bounds. If they had scored,
Speaker 1: they would have gone for two. But enough about that.
Speaker 1: We have another game tonight and that is in Brazil.
Speaker 1: The Eagles and the Packers will duke it out as
Speaker 1: there is military security protecting our NFL players in Brazil
Speaker 1: today and that game will be on Peacock later today.
Speaker 1: More on that coming up on this the Friday edition.
Speaker 1: This sixth day of September edition of the podcast here
Speaker 1: will have the wardrobe change or was it the flapping
Speaker 1: your feathers like you just own care, cheeseburger in Paradise,
Speaker 1: and the phrase of the week. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff to get to. Today's National Read a Book Day.
Speaker 1: Who me and you can read a book while listening
Speaker 1: to the fifth Hour podcast, so you know that, Yes,
Speaker 1: you can multitest. You can read the book and listen
Speaker 1: to this podcast in the back. And while we want
Speaker 1: you to focus on everything that we say, we get
Speaker 1: credit as long as you play the podcast. They have
Speaker 1: ways to track you. As you know, Big Brothers always
Speaker 1: watching or listening, so they can track you and how
Speaker 1: many people are listening. And when you listen to like
Speaker 1: you download the podcast, you listen for like five minutes,
Speaker 1: we get credit, but we get extra credit if you
Speaker 1: listen for ten minutes. I don't even know how it
Speaker 1: all works. I just know we need a minimum of
Speaker 1: like five good minutes. We get a little credit for
Speaker 1: two or three, but we'd like to have more. We'd
Speaker 1: like to have more than that. So that's the deal
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: It is also Fight Procrastination Day, and I am proud
Speaker 1: to say that this is not an issue that I have.
Speaker 1: I wish it was a problem. I just don't in
Speaker 1: terms of work stuff. Now there's other stuff, like the
Speaker 1: day to day monotony of adulting that I do procrastinate
Speaker 1: on it. But in terms of work, I'm very surgical
Speaker 1: with the way I approach things. I have my routine.
Speaker 1: But today is fight procrastination day, and opportunity for you
Speaker 1: and maybe me when it comes to the adulting stuff
Speaker 1: but not work stuff, to face your procrastination issue head on.
Speaker 1: And they are of course saying this is a mental
Speaker 1: health related and all that stuff, and yeah, well, it
Speaker 1: does actually lead to hoarding. I know that from having
Speaker 1: listeners who have gotten in some trouble Cowboy and Windsor
Speaker 1: and some other guys that have gotten to hoarding. And
Speaker 1: it actually originates. Procrastination originates from a Greek poet who
Speaker 1: was among the first people to speak against procrastination. In
Speaker 1: a poem titled Works and Days. The Greek poet spoke
Speaker 1: to his brother who had mismanaged his inheritance, asking him
Speaker 1: not to abandon his duties. And so it goes all
Speaker 1: the way back to Greek times. So it is fight
Speaker 1: procrastination day. Now for us, we take you behind the
Speaker 1: scenes on Benny Versus the Penny. This is our second episode.
Speaker 1: It has already aired in some markets, for example in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: It has already been broadcast in Philly and a couple
Speaker 1: of other cities. Now the the main hub of this
Speaker 1: every station matters. But in Boston where the show is produced,
Speaker 1: my guy Vinnie and the production team Kevin and those
Speaker 1: guys put the show together. And our first showing on
Speaker 1: NBC Sports Boston will be tonight at six o'clock. We're
Speaker 1: in a great slot. We're on right after Felger and
Speaker 1: Maz So that's the very popular afternoon drive from the
Speaker 1: sports of Michael Felger and Tony Maserati. It is simulcast.
Speaker 1: It's such a popular show that it is simulcast all
Speaker 1: I think all four hours are on NBC Sports Boston
Speaker 1: and then we come on after that. So that's a
Speaker 1: great slot. And Benny Versus the Penny not only if
Speaker 1: you miss it at six o'clock, it airs again at
Speaker 1: eight point thirty and nine to thirty, so there are
Speaker 1: three showings tonight of that program. There's no reason to
Speaker 1: miss in the Boston market on NBC Sports Boston Benny
Speaker 1: versus the Penny. So check that out. Now, I did
Speaker 1: have a bit of a wardrobe issue, not a snaff foo.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a wardrobe malfunction by any means. It was
Speaker 1: a wardrobe change. It certainly was that. So I'll take
Speaker 1: you behind the scenes. Last week, the episode was boomed
Speaker 1: out to the masses, and we get feedback like any
Speaker 1: job to the radio show, and from time to time
Speaker 1: the bosses will say, hey, like this, I don't like this,
Speaker 1: you know, and then it's up to you to figure
Speaker 1: out how you want to approach things. And we have
Speaker 1: a great team that follows the TV show very closely.
Speaker 1: As you might imagine, there's a lot of people involved,
Speaker 1: much more than a radio show where I have pretty
Speaker 1: much total editorial control over the radio show that I do.
Speaker 1: It's not exactly the same. I have a lot of leeway,
Speaker 1: a lot of leeway on the TV show, but I
Speaker 1: do not have complete and total control, nor would you
Speaker 1: expect me to, nor would you expect me to. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of care that goes into it, right, It's
Speaker 1: very surgical the way to put the show together and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So in terms of the picks, those
Speaker 1: are obviously my picks. And sometimes I might say something
Speaker 1: that is allowed on the radio and not allowed on
Speaker 1: television and for whatever reason, for whatever reason, and so
Speaker 1: we make sure not to do that again, make sure
Speaker 1: to clean that up. But as far as the wardrobe
Speaker 1: is concerned, I did get one comment from one of
Speaker 1: the big bosses at NBC is like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: I like the show this, that, and the other thing. However, however,
Speaker 1: and then they'll point something out. And if you've known
Speaker 1: me at all from the Overnight Show, you know, in
Speaker 1: terms of that show, I am the fashionista. I just
Speaker 1: am I Eddie. Come on, Eddie wears the same thing
Speaker 1: all the time. Coop no, and Lorena has been away.
Speaker 1: But I'm the snappy dresser. I'm the snappy dresser on
Speaker 1: the show. I'm on camera there, I'm just on the
Speaker 1: YouTube channel for the show, and it's like I'm walking
Speaker 1: down the catwalk all time. So it was odd when
Speaker 1: somebody from NBC contacted me and said, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: I like the show, however, I'd like to update this
Speaker 1: little wrinkle. So it caught my attention. It was hat related.
Speaker 1: It was hat related. So one of the big bosses
Speaker 1: at NBC's like, hey, I would like you to have
Speaker 1: a different hat, and he even went on the interweb
Speaker 1: and found the style of hat that he wanted me
Speaker 1: to have. The look and all that. I said, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're the boss. I mean, you gave me a damn
Speaker 1: TV show. Whatever you want. I'm there, man, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm in radio, you know, fashion, even though I'm the
Speaker 1: fashion Nissa on the show. It's like, okay, this is
Speaker 1: a different world from me. I thought, like a wardrobe
Speaker 1: and worry about my appearance and stuff. I can't be
Speaker 1: a disheveled slob and I mean, man, So he sent
Speaker 1: something to me and we immediately bought it. Bought this
Speaker 1: this hat from hand crafted from Ireland to where so
Speaker 1: we got the hat doing the show normal week. In
Speaker 1: terms of prep, you know, sent the stuff where it
Speaker 1: needed to go to Vinnie. I do most of the
Speaker 1: prep for the show. Send it to Vinnie. He then
Speaker 1: puts everything together, the rich tapestry of information. He has
Speaker 1: to sew that together into a rundown where we have
Speaker 1: the A block, the B block, and the C block.
Speaker 1: Because it's half hour show, so you get the beginning,
Speaker 1: the middle, and then the end. Boom boom boom, and
Speaker 1: that's it. Shows over. So I send him the stuff.
Speaker 1: He then sends me back at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: he sends me the rundow. So then at that point
Speaker 1: I have to compile my talking points and I don't
Speaker 1: use it tele a prompter. That's Tom Looney. Tom Looney's prompter. Tom,
Speaker 1: He's Tom the prompter. Don't use a prompter. Probably should
Speaker 1: use a prompter. Don't use a prompter. So it's all
Speaker 1: pretty much muscle memory where I go over my notes
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to remember like key points I want
Speaker 1: to make. But the show is my end is improvised
Speaker 1: what I'm going to say. I have an idea of
Speaker 1: what I want to say, and I way too much
Speaker 1: much information on every game. The show is only half
Speaker 1: an hour, and because of that, as we've talked about
Speaker 1: in previous episodes of this podcast, the fifth hour, a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff does not end up on the show,
Speaker 1: and the same thing happens in radio. It's even more
Speaker 1: exasperated on the television show because there's so many moving
Speaker 1: parts and you're on camera, then you're off camera and
Speaker 1: you're paranoid about how you're looking, and the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And so there's all that involved. There's all that involved,
Speaker 1: but the wardrobe thing. So you get to the point, please, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll get to the point. So I show up to
Speaker 1: the Universal studios and I'm the first one there because
Speaker 1: what I do is my move is I do the
Speaker 1: radio show and boom, I'm getting off the radio. I
Speaker 1: scoot right over to Universal students. I'm like, hey man,
Speaker 1: I'm at Universe. This is great. But there's no one
Speaker 1: there when I get there, there's no one there, like
Speaker 1: the security guard. There's somebody in the CNBC newsroom, in
Speaker 1: the MSNBC newsroom, because it's kind of where we have
Speaker 1: our studio. It's in the the NBC Tom Brokaw building
Speaker 1: over there, and so we have our own little little
Speaker 1: cubby hole there, and there's a room right across the hall.
Speaker 1: You go out of the studio. We record Benny versus
Speaker 1: the Penny, and it was a big green screen and
Speaker 1: cameras and the lights and all stuff. So you go
Speaker 1: out of there, you make a right turn. There's a
Speaker 1: whole hallway, but you go you don't look at the hallway,
Speaker 1: you just turn right. Then as you're walking down you
Speaker 1: take a few steps down to the right, and then
Speaker 1: to the left there's a door. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: tables in there, and that's where I spend most of
Speaker 1: my time on the Universal Lot. I go in there.
Speaker 1: There's power, there's a whatever you need there. They got
Speaker 1: everything you need. There's a great commissary there down the
Speaker 1: hall where they have all the usual nonsense with water
Speaker 1: and coffee which I don't drink. And there's downstairs there's
Speaker 1: snacks you can you can get you have to buy them,
Speaker 1: I fast, so I don't. I don't buy them. But anyway, well,
Speaker 1: so I go in that room and it's the middle
Speaker 1: of the night. There's no one there whatever, and I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to compile and put together how I want
Speaker 1: the show to go. I and it's like some things
Speaker 1: that I want to make sure I get in. There's
Speaker 1: some things that you know, whether that gets in or not,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. So I do that,
Speaker 1: and I guess some other stuff I have to take
Speaker 1: care of. So I'm in there a while and kind
Speaker 1: of doing my thing and all that, and then eventually
Speaker 1: Looney strolls in. Now the great thing about when Looney
Speaker 1: shows up to record the show. He's there right before
Speaker 1: we have this call time. They send a sheet down.
Speaker 1: You have a call time, have to be there, and
Speaker 1: I get there real early because I got nothing else
Speaker 1: to do. Looney strolls in. You always hear Looney before
Speaker 1: you see him. You always hee him. He'd be a
Speaker 1: terrible spot. He's the antithesis of a ninja. Okay, So
Speaker 1: you hear him chit chatting, playing grab ass with pretty
Speaker 1: much everybody who's wandering around. And by that time there's
Speaker 1: people that are showing up, and you know, Looney's saying
Speaker 1: hello and he's remembering everyone's name, and you know it's
Speaker 1: Pop Pop Phizz fizz. Oh, what a relief it is.
Speaker 1: Tom Looney's here. So I hear him before I see him.
Speaker 1: He shows up, and then we go over everything. He's
Speaker 1: got a couple of wardrobe options. We do a table
Speaker 1: You think we're kidding, but we don't. We actually do
Speaker 1: a table read, and we go over every segment of
Speaker 1: the show. And what often happens during the table read
Speaker 1: if we haven't mentioned this in previous episodes. So we
Speaker 1: go over things, but there's things that we don't want
Speaker 1: the other person to know, like Looney will drop stuff
Speaker 1: on me when we're actually doing the show that wasn't
Speaker 1: in the table read, and vice versa, and vice versa.
Speaker 1: So well, well, it's you know what it's like. It's
Speaker 1: like exhibition football where you don't want to show the
Speaker 1: other team your playbook, but you want to play the game,
Speaker 1: but you don't want to show what you're going to
Speaker 1: do in the real game. And so that's what it's like.
Speaker 1: But it gives you a sense of what's going to happen,
Speaker 1: but there's always surprises. So we do all that, and this,
Speaker 1: to me is a very important part of the making
Speaker 1: of the show because unlike the radio show, you go
Speaker 1: in there you want to get it done. It's on
Speaker 1: television at lasts for several days, it's everywhere people can
Speaker 1: you want to it's your product. You are putting your
Speaker 1: product out there, so it's important we go over that.
Speaker 1: So fine, we do that, and then it's time to
Speaker 1: put the final pieces to the wardrobe together. And I
Speaker 1: mentioned that one of the big executives at NBC had said, hey,
Speaker 1: we want you to get this hat. So I bought
Speaker 1: the hat, pretty expensive hat, pretty expensive hat, and so
Speaker 1: I put the hat on, I put the sweater on,
Speaker 1: changed up the sweater this week. I got permission from
Speaker 1: the big bosses at NBC to change the wardrobe. So fine,
Speaker 1: So I go into the studio. I sit down, new
Speaker 1: hat on, and there's a lot of conversation going on
Speaker 1: back in Boston. People are going back. I know they're
Speaker 1: talking about the hat. I know, the hat's the point
Speaker 1: of emphasis. And then they're trying to adjust the lighting.
Speaker 1: So I've got people running around behind me and in
Speaker 1: front of me trying to adjust the lighting in there,
Speaker 1: Like what's going on. It's like okay, And I had
Speaker 1: a feeling the hat something was a little off, but
Speaker 1: again it wasn't my decision. This was somebody that wanted
Speaker 1: me to wear the hat. So I don't wear it whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, they want it, whatever they want, I'll wear
Speaker 1: clown makeup if they want, they you know, keep me
Speaker 1: a TV show. I mean, come on, some would argue
Speaker 1: I am wearing clown makeup. So I went in there,
Speaker 1: we sit down, I test the microphones, and we have
Speaker 1: to test the earpiece and all that stuff. And so
Speaker 1: I'm pretty normal minimal things, nominal, nominal stuff. And we
Speaker 1: go through all the trivial stuff and and then I
Speaker 1: get the message, Hey is do you have the hat
Speaker 1: from last week in your in your bag? Why? Yes,
Speaker 1: I do. I absolutely have the hat from last week.
Speaker 1: So I had to go out of this to take
Speaker 1: my mic off and my IFB go out of the studio,
Speaker 1: go make a right turn, go into the room I
Speaker 1: normally hang out at and fiddle with my hat. And
Speaker 1: so fiddle with my hat I did. And so it
Speaker 1: turns out that I will be returning the very expensive
Speaker 1: hat hand crafted from Ireland. It just I have a
Speaker 1: very large head. And you can say because I've got
Speaker 1: a lot of empty space or I have a big brain.
Speaker 1: Either way, and so the bit of a problem to
Speaker 1: find hats that fit right on the big head not easy,
Speaker 1: not easy. So then we use the old hat. You
Speaker 1: can see that today, later today and tomorrow and then
Speaker 1: Sunday morning on this week's edition of Benny Versus the Pennys.
Speaker 1: We like to call it BBP BBP Betty versus Penny.
Speaker 1: So we turned the page on that and I got
Speaker 1: a lot of great feedback, and we're going to do
Speaker 1: the mail bag on Sunday and we'll read your questions
Speaker 1: and go over the quiz of the week from you guys.
Speaker 1: And we got a lot of email this week, which
Speaker 1: is great, and I'm sure we'll get more between now
Speaker 1: and Sunday. You can email Real fifth Hour at gmail
Speaker 1: dot com. Real fifth Hour at gmail dot com. Fine,
Speaker 1: so people are emailing me be like, hey, I want
Speaker 1: to watch the show. I have Peacock and where's the show?
Speaker 1: So I point out where the show is. I go
Speaker 1: over here, the show's shows right there, boom, I'll watch
Speaker 1: watch the show. So fine, and then, uh, I guess
Speaker 1: it was yesterday on Thursday, maybe even Wednesday, might have
Speaker 1: been on Wednesday. I think I think it was actually
Speaker 1: started on Wednesday. I'm getting these messages that are are
Speaker 1: trickling in and people are are annoyed. They're getting progressively
Speaker 1: more upset and know what did what did I do here?
Speaker 1: And I don't think I did. I didn't. I don't
Speaker 1: think I did any anyway. The the tenor of the
Speaker 1: messages where hey, I heard you mentioned on the radio
Speaker 1: show that your TV show is on pot On on
Speaker 1: Peacock on Peacock, uh, and uh, but I couldn't find it.
Speaker 1: Did you lie? Did you make that up? You know
Speaker 1: that whole thing? And one guy even went as far
Speaker 1: as to say. They contacted customer service. They were that
Speaker 1: annoyed they could not find the show on Peacock. So
Speaker 1: then that sparked a minutes long Mallor investigation. As I
Speaker 1: started to freak out what happened to the show, I
Speaker 1: became a bit abrasive, bit abrasive, as they were right.
Speaker 1: The people that were contacting me were there. They were annoyed,
Speaker 1: they were upset, which is I'm honored that you're upset
Speaker 1: because you can't find a TV show that's a week old. Anyway,
Speaker 1: now I know the rest of the story, the rest
Speaker 1: of the story. So it turns out the TV show
Speaker 1: has a rather quick expiration date because we're picking games
Speaker 1: that are played mostly on Sunday and then the Monday
Speaker 1: night game. There's no reason to keep the show up
Speaker 1: other than to make us look like jackasses, you know,
Speaker 1: jack wagons or whatever. So what they do, it's just
Speaker 1: like the TV show, the TV show which is on Peacock.
Speaker 1: It's the same show, but on cable they stop airing
Speaker 1: it at one o'clock Eastern on Sunday because that's when
Speaker 1: they kick off that big television window. So somewhere and
Speaker 1: this is way over my pay grade. Somebody that is
Speaker 1: involved in the Peacock process not only took the show
Speaker 1: off Peacock, which I'm fine with. I get it. Even
Speaker 1: though last week's episode, the week one episode preseason is
Speaker 1: pretty much evergreen in terms of the picks are going
Speaker 1: to last all year. We did win totals, we did
Speaker 1: some player I did some player props. Those bets will
Speaker 1: have a lifespan that will go all the way through
Speaker 1: the regular season. The show this week, which you'll start
Speaker 1: start today, that in the pecking order of television, and
Speaker 1: it's going to be dated on on Sunday. Okay, so fine.
Speaker 1: But the only problem I had I did let the
Speaker 1: people at NBC know is they took the entire beny
Speaker 1: versus the penny page down and one guy contacted their
Speaker 1: customer service and the person wasn't real helpful and that
Speaker 1: you know, they kind of got upset and all that.
Speaker 1: So I just want you to know I do care
Speaker 1: about your feedback, and I have contacted through the proper channels.
Speaker 1: I do know the social order, I know where I
Speaker 1: fall on the food chain, so I feel like I
Speaker 1: was diplomatic and we'll see where the road takes us here, hopefully,
Speaker 1: we'll get this straight now early. This is the first
Speaker 1: year we've been on Peacock and it was really cool.
Speaker 1: They had a great page. My ugly photo was on there,
Speaker 1: and from what I understand, don't hold me to this,
Speaker 1: that page will be back up this afternoon. By this
Speaker 1: afternoon and you'll be able to watch Benny Versus the
Speaker 1: Penny week two week two week. It's week one of
Speaker 1: the NFL season, but week two for the show, episode two,
Speaker 1: and so you'll be able to watch that later today.
Speaker 1: And you know, one thing I have no problem with
Speaker 1: being bashful is is promoting the show, and so I'll
Speaker 1: send that out on all the appropriate social media channels
Speaker 1: and this podcast companion your next level P one if
Speaker 1: you're in here, So that's how I classify you that
Speaker 1: you're even listening to the podcast on the weekends, and
Speaker 1: hopefully you listen to the overnight show. So thank you
Speaker 1: for flapping your feathers about the Peacock. We'll get that
Speaker 1: sorted out again today. It should be back up and
Speaker 1: then remember though, it's only going to be up for
Speaker 1: a few days, so if you're planning on we were
Speaker 1: just talking about this earlier a few minutes ago, procrastinating, well,
Speaker 1: fight procrast nation. If you're planning on pushing back the
Speaker 1: TV show, you have until Sunday morning and then the
Speaker 1: thing vanishes into the into the into the outer space area.
Speaker 1: So who knows. Moving on from that, it is a
Speaker 1: cheeseburger in Paradise. And this is one of those fun
Speaker 1: facts that I had heard years ago and I had forgotten.
Speaker 1: Do you ever have that happen When you hear something
Speaker 1: then you kind of forget about it and then it's back.
Speaker 1: And that's what happened this week. So I fell down
Speaker 1: this rabbit hole. I was reading a story about about
Speaker 1: some some fast food restaurants and how they're price gouging
Speaker 1: people and then they and then I clicked on another
Speaker 1: story and it was about the shake Shack, the burger
Speaker 1: joined from New York. That's a national chain and they're
Speaker 1: closing some location in Los Angeles. So then I checked
Speaker 1: that out, and then I clicked on another story and
Speaker 1: it was about the genesis of the cheeseburger. Now, the hamburger,
Speaker 1: we know the hamburger where it comes from, We've done
Speaker 1: that on the show. But the cheeseburger, this blows me away.
Speaker 1: The cheeseburger only dates back to the early nineteen hundred.
Speaker 1: In fact, this is the one hundredth anniversary of the
Speaker 1: cheeseburger nineteen twenty four. And the cheeseburger where do you
Speaker 1: think it was in? You think it was like New York, Boston, Philly,
Speaker 1: one of those early US towns. Or do you think
Speaker 1: it came from Germany? Hamburg, Germany? What if I told
Speaker 1: you that the cheeseburger came from Pasadena, home of the
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl and the Rose Parade, And in nineteen twenty
Speaker 1: four it was the first time the original hamburger in
Speaker 1: cheese appeared on a menu. Now, the actual term cheeseburger
Speaker 1: was invented somewhere else, I think in Louisiana. I'll have
Speaker 1: to double check that, But the process of putting cheese
Speaker 1: on a burger, the first place that popped up on
Speaker 1: a menu was in Pasadena. The legend is that it
Speaker 1: happened on Colorado Boulevard that was then known as Root
Speaker 1: sixty six. Get your kicks on Root sixty six. They've
Speaker 1: had songs, many songs written about that over the years.
Speaker 1: It was where the right spot that's a restaurant once
Speaker 1: stood and that is where the cheeseburger was born. It
Speaker 1: cost all of fifteen cents. And as the legend goes,
Speaker 1: is it true that a gentleman named hs Sternberger great name,
Speaker 1: and his two sons who happened to be twins, Van
Speaker 1: and Lionel. They were in Pasadena in nineteen sixteen from
Speaker 1: San Diego. The sixteen year old Lionel Sternberger was working
Speaker 1: in the kitchen at his dad's restaurant. There the original
Speaker 1: hamburger and cheese would pop up on the menu there
Speaker 1: at the right spot. So this kid's sixteen, he's working,
Speaker 1: he's in high school. He's working at the restaurant southwest
Speaker 1: corner of Colorado Boulevard on an Avenue sixty four. I
Speaker 1: used to live on Avenue twenty six. It's one of
Speaker 1: my old old homes, so Avenue sixty four in Colorado Boulevard.
Speaker 1: And this this kid's working as a short order cook.
Speaker 1: And one random day in nineteen twenty four, a sixteen
Speaker 1: year old kid introduced cheese to a patty of beef. Now,
Speaker 1: how exactly he decided to do this is a bit
Speaker 1: of a mystery. There are two theories that food historians
Speaker 1: have come up with, but we do know he called
Speaker 1: it not a cheeseburger. He called it the Aristocrat burger.
Speaker 1: The original hamburger with cheese is what they called it.
Speaker 1: So version number one is the story that I like better.
Speaker 1: That I like better. This story is the kids screwed
Speaker 1: up and it was a cover up. Now, often you
Speaker 1: hear the cover up is worse than the crime. This
Speaker 1: time the cover up was better than the crime. So
Speaker 1: Lionel Sternberger, at age sixteen's working his dad's restaurant, short
Speaker 1: order cook. He's behind the counter there flipping burgers and
Speaker 1: uh uh, he accidentally burnt a patty. Now for me,
Speaker 1: that's not an accident. For me, that's what I want.
Speaker 1: When I go to get a burger, I want it burned.
Speaker 1: I cook burgers usually on Fridays. It's burger Day. Today's
Speaker 1: burger day, so I'll have Bobby on the griddle. I
Speaker 1: might make a cheese steak, but so cheat day, cheat meal.
Speaker 1: So I love it burned. I love it well done.
Speaker 1: Most people know. So back in nineteen twenty four, you
Speaker 1: don't even want to burn hamburger patty, but you don't
Speaker 1: want to throw it away because stuff's pricey. I mean,
Speaker 1: fifteen cents that's very expensive for a burger. So this
Speaker 1: kid's like, hey, I got an idea, and a good
Speaker 1: old Lionel Sternberger says, I fed up. So when you
Speaker 1: f up, you got to cover up. And that's exactly
Speaker 1: what he did. He made a mistake and in order
Speaker 1: to hide the mistake, can't put makeup on a burger
Speaker 1: that's burned, so he slapped a slice of cheese to
Speaker 1: conceal the charcoal on the burger. And the rest is
Speaker 1: his story, or is it. Another theory is that this
Speaker 1: kid had nothing to do with the idea and he
Speaker 1: was just following orders that the customer came in. There's
Speaker 1: some random customer and said, hey, I'd like you to
Speaker 1: put a piece of cheese on my burger. And the
Speaker 1: kids say, ah, right, whatever you want. I'm just the
Speaker 1: short order cook dude, and here you go. Knock yourself out.
Speaker 1: And that's how it started. Either way, though, I like
Speaker 1: the first version of the story better. You can decide
Speaker 1: for yourself. We've got the phrase of the way, all right.
Speaker 1: Phrase of the week this week is back to the
Speaker 1: drawing board. This was requested by a listener named Michael,
Speaker 1: who is from Indiana, So thank you Michael for emailing.
Speaker 1: Appreciate your listenership. Michael lives in Indianapolis. He says he's
Speaker 1: a Colts fan, does not like baseball, and likes the
Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers. So pretty standard. Pretty standard, I would say,
Speaker 1: as far as the teams that you like, he wants
Speaker 1: us to break down back to the drawing board. So
Speaker 1: this actually is credited to an artist, a cartoonist. Peter
Speaker 1: Arnault is the name, and it goes back to nineteen
Speaker 1: forty one, so the phrase back to the drawing board
Speaker 1: not that old. It was a New Yorker cartoon New
Speaker 1: Yorker magazine. The cartoon depicted a dude in a suit
Speaker 1: walking away from this crashed plane while carrying rolled up.
Speaker 1: And the way the cartoon was drawn was it was
Speaker 1: a mechanical drawing of an aircraft and there was a
Speaker 1: little cartoon bubble over the head, and the cartoon bubble
Speaker 1: over the head read well, back to the drawing board.
Speaker 1: And supposedly the phrase originated actually during World War Two
Speaker 1: and then made its way into some military dudes, we're
Speaker 1: talking and the cartoon has heard it and put it
Speaker 1: in the New Yorker, and the phrase if you don't
Speaker 1: understand what it means, Kin Bobby's here, it's you screwed
Speaker 1: up something. It was not a success, and you got
Speaker 1: to get a fresh start, you know, begin again, you know,
Speaker 1: make a new beginning. However you want to say it,
Speaker 1: start from scratch. There's so many other ways to say it.
Speaker 1: But back to the drawing board a phrase that originated
Speaker 1: in the New Yorker magazine cartoon in nineteen forty one.
Speaker 1: And now you know the rest of the story. And
Speaker 1: if you want to recommend a phrase or a word
Speaker 1: you'd like us to look up, please do so. We
Speaker 1: love words, love looking up words and trying to dig
Speaker 1: down rabbit holes and find out where things come from.
Speaker 1: But that should do it for us today. Danny will
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow with me Danny G for the Saturday podcast,
Speaker 1: and we'll also have a fresh pod on Sunday. We'll
Speaker 1: have the mail Bag on Sunday. Joy the NFL tonight,
Speaker 1: don't forget Benny versus the Penny again, should be back
Speaker 1: up on Peacock later today, so we're excited about that.
Speaker 1: And watch that NFL game Eagles and Packers, which will
Speaker 1: also be on the Peacock Boy. They should run like
Speaker 1: a promo for the t R show Benny Versus The
Speaker 1: Penny on Peacock Boy. That would be awesome during the game.
Speaker 1: Don't think that's gonna happen. But you can dream, you know, dream,
Speaker 1: Why not dream? But all weekend NBC Sports Boston tonight
Speaker 1: six o'clock obviously in Boston three o'clock in the West.
Speaker 1: If you have a satellite and you can watch it,
Speaker 1: It'll air all weekend and over and over again, several
Speaker 1: showings tonight in Boston, We're on. In Philadelphia, we are
Speaker 1: on in the morning today. Phillies are playing tonight and
Speaker 1: we'll be on again on Saturday morning in Philly and
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area. You're gonna be overwhelmed with Benny
Speaker 1: Versus the Penny. So Andrea and mister nice Guy and
Speaker 1: Matt all you guys, thank you for watching. We'll have
Speaker 1: new episodes up. Even Inka Terror who's blind, loves watching
Speaker 1: Benny Versus the Penny. Have a wonderful rest of your day.
Speaker 1: We will catch you tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow later, Skater, Is
Speaker 1: that what Danny says? I think that's what he says, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: got a murder. I gotta go