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Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes

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Speaker 2: The Clearinghouse of Hot takes break free for something special.

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Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now in.

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Speaker 1: The air everywhere. Welcome to another Pipe and Hot edition

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Speaker 1: of the Extra Crispy, Extra Spicy Fifth Hour with me,

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Speaker 1: Ben Mahler and Danny g Radio, and a very happy

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Speaker 1: Friday to you. The first full weekend in the month

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Speaker 1: of September, and more importantly, we are now heading in

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Speaker 1: to a full football season. We had last night compelling

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Speaker 1: theater as the Baltimore Ravens tried to pull out a tie.

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Speaker 1: Actually we're gonna go for the win at the end

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Speaker 1: on that Thursday night game last night. We talked about

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Speaker 1: you missed the original recipe podcast, the Non Extra Country Podcast,

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Speaker 1: it was a humdinger, a Barnburner of a finish as

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson made multiple mistakes at the end of that game.

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Speaker 1: And Lamar is a polarizing figure, as we know, because

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Speaker 1: he does things that nobody else does in the NFL. Right,

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Speaker 1: there are some things that Lamar Jackson does that nobody

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Speaker 1: And the Ravens didn't play all that well. There were

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Speaker 1: some defensive breakdowns. They have a new defensive coordinator, several

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Speaker 1: they would have gone for two. But enough about that.

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Speaker 1: We have another game tonight and that is in Brazil.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles and the Packers will duke it out as

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Speaker 1: today and that game will be on Peacock later today.

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Speaker 1: More on that coming up on this the Friday edition.

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Speaker 1: This sixth day of September edition of the podcast here

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Speaker 1: will have the wardrobe change or was it the flapping

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Speaker 1: your feathers like you just own care, cheeseburger in Paradise,

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Speaker 1: and the phrase of the week. So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff to get to. Today's National Read a Book Day.

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Speaker 1: Who me and you can read a book while listening

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Speaker 1: to the fifth Hour podcast, so you know that, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you can multitest. You can read the book and listen

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Speaker 1: to this podcast in the back. And while we want

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Speaker 1: you to focus on everything that we say, we get

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Speaker 1: credit as long as you play the podcast. They have

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Speaker 1: ways to track you. As you know, Big Brothers always

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Speaker 1: many people are listening. And when you listen to like

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Speaker 1: listen for ten minutes. I don't even know how it

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Speaker 1: cheese appeared on a menu. Now, the actual term cheeseburger

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Speaker 1: was invented somewhere else, I think in Louisiana. I'll have

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Speaker 1: on a burger, the first place that popped up on

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Speaker 1: a menu was in Pasadena. The legend is that it

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Speaker 1: happened on Colorado Boulevard that was then known as Root

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Speaker 1: sixty six. Get your kicks on Root sixty six. They've

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Speaker 1: had songs, many songs written about that over the years.

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Speaker 1: It was where the right spot that's a restaurant once

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Speaker 1: stood and that is where the cheeseburger was born. It

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Speaker 1: cost all of fifteen cents. And as the legend goes,

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Speaker 1: is it true that a gentleman named hs Sternberger great name,

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Speaker 1: and his two sons who happened to be twins, Van

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Speaker 1: and Lionel. They were in Pasadena in nineteen sixteen from

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Speaker 1: San Diego. The sixteen year old Lionel Sternberger was working

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Speaker 1: in the kitchen at his dad's restaurant. There the original

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Speaker 1: hamburger and cheese would pop up on the menu there

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Speaker 1: at the right spot. So this kid's sixteen, he's working,

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Speaker 1: he's in high school. He's working at the restaurant southwest

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Speaker 1: corner of Colorado Boulevard on an Avenue sixty four. I

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Speaker 1: used to live on Avenue twenty six. It's one of

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Speaker 1: my old old homes, so Avenue sixty four in Colorado Boulevard.

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Speaker 1: And this this kid's working as a short order cook.

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Speaker 1: And one random day in nineteen twenty four, a sixteen

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Speaker 1: year old kid introduced cheese to a patty of beef. Now,

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Speaker 1: how exactly he decided to do this is a bit

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Speaker 1: of a mystery. There are two theories that food historians

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Speaker 1: have come up with, but we do know he called

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Speaker 1: it not a cheeseburger. He called it the Aristocrat burger.

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Speaker 1: The original hamburger with cheese is what they called it.

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Speaker 1: So version number one is the story that I like better.

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Speaker 1: That I like better. This story is the kids screwed

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Speaker 1: up and it was a cover up. Now, often you

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Speaker 1: hear the cover up is worse than the crime. This

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Speaker 1: time the cover up was better than the crime. So

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Speaker 1: Lionel Sternberger, at age sixteen's working his dad's restaurant, short

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Speaker 1: order cook. He's behind the counter there flipping burgers and

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Speaker 1: uh uh, he accidentally burnt a patty. Now for me,

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Speaker 1: that's not an accident. For me, that's what I want.

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Speaker 1: When I go to get a burger, I want it burned.

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Speaker 1: I cook burgers usually on Fridays. It's burger Day. Today's

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Speaker 1: burger day, so I'll have Bobby on the griddle. I

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Speaker 1: might make a cheese steak, but so cheat day, cheat meal.

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Speaker 1: So I love it burned. I love it well done.

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Speaker 1: Most people know. So back in nineteen twenty four, you

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Speaker 1: don't even want to burn hamburger patty, but you don't

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Speaker 1: want to throw it away because stuff's pricey. I mean,

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Speaker 1: fifteen cents that's very expensive for a burger. So this

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Speaker 1: kid's like, hey, I got an idea, and a good

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Speaker 1: old Lionel Sternberger says, I fed up. So when you

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Speaker 1: f up, you got to cover up. And that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what he did. He made a mistake and in order

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Speaker 1: to hide the mistake, can't put makeup on a burger

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Speaker 1: that's burned, so he slapped a slice of cheese to

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Speaker 1: conceal the charcoal on the burger. And the rest is

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Speaker 1: his story, or is it. Another theory is that this

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Speaker 1: kid had nothing to do with the idea and he

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Speaker 1: was just following orders that the customer came in. There's

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Speaker 1: some random customer and said, hey, I'd like you to

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Speaker 1: put a piece of cheese on my burger. And the

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Speaker 1: kids say, ah, right, whatever you want. I'm just the

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Speaker 1: short order cook dude, and here you go. Knock yourself out.

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Speaker 1: And that's how it started. Either way, though, I like

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Speaker 1: the first version of the story better. You can decide

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Speaker 1: for yourself. We've got the phrase of the way, all right.

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Speaker 1: Phrase of the week this week is back to the

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Speaker 1: drawing board. This was requested by a listener named Michael,

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Speaker 1: who is from Indiana, So thank you Michael for emailing.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your listenership. Michael lives in Indianapolis. He says he's

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Speaker 1: a Colts fan, does not like baseball, and likes the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers. So pretty standard. Pretty standard, I would say,

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Speaker 1: as far as the teams that you like, he wants

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Speaker 1: us to break down back to the drawing board. So

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Speaker 1: this actually is credited to an artist, a cartoonist. Peter

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Speaker 1: Arnault is the name, and it goes back to nineteen

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Speaker 1: forty one, so the phrase back to the drawing board

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Speaker 1: not that old. It was a New Yorker cartoon New

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Speaker 1: Yorker magazine. The cartoon depicted a dude in a suit

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Speaker 1: walking away from this crashed plane while carrying rolled up.

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Speaker 1: And the way the cartoon was drawn was it was

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Speaker 1: a mechanical drawing of an aircraft and there was a

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Speaker 1: little cartoon bubble over the head, and the cartoon bubble

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Speaker 1: over the head read well, back to the drawing board.

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Speaker 1: And supposedly the phrase originated actually during World War Two

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Speaker 1: and then made its way into some military dudes, we're

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Speaker 1: talking and the cartoon has heard it and put it

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Speaker 1: in the New Yorker, and the phrase if you don't

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Speaker 1: understand what it means, Kin Bobby's here, it's you screwed

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Speaker 1: up something. It was not a success, and you got

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Speaker 1: to get a fresh start, you know, begin again, you know,

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Speaker 1: make a new beginning. However you want to say it,

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Speaker 1: start from scratch. There's so many other ways to say it.

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Speaker 1: But back to the drawing board a phrase that originated

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Speaker 1: in the New Yorker magazine cartoon in nineteen forty one.

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Speaker 1: And now you know the rest of the story. And

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Speaker 1: if you want to recommend a phrase or a word

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Speaker 1: you'd like us to look up, please do so. We

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Speaker 1: love words, love looking up words and trying to dig

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Speaker 1: down rabbit holes and find out where things come from.

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Speaker 1: But that should do it for us today. Danny will

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Speaker 1: be back tomorrow with me Danny G for the Saturday podcast,

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Speaker 1: and we'll also have a fresh pod on Sunday. We'll

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Speaker 1: have the mail Bag on Sunday. Joy the NFL tonight,

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Speaker 1: don't forget Benny versus the Penny again, should be back

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Speaker 1: up on Peacock later today, so we're excited about that.

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Speaker 1: And watch that NFL game Eagles and Packers, which will

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Speaker 1: also be on the Peacock Boy. They should run like

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Speaker 1: a promo for the t R show Benny Versus The

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Speaker 1: Penny on Peacock Boy. That would be awesome during the game.

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Speaker 1: Don't think that's gonna happen. But you can dream, you know, dream,

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Speaker 1: Why not dream? But all weekend NBC Sports Boston tonight

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Speaker 1: six o'clock obviously in Boston three o'clock in the West.

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Speaker 1: If you have a satellite and you can watch it,

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Speaker 1: It'll air all weekend and over and over again, several

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Speaker 1: showings tonight in Boston, We're on. In Philadelphia, we are

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Speaker 1: on in the morning today. Phillies are playing tonight and

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Speaker 1: we'll be on again on Saturday morning in Philly and

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Speaker 1: in the Bay Area. You're gonna be overwhelmed with Benny

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Speaker 1: Versus the Penny. So Andrea and mister nice Guy and

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Speaker 1: Matt all you guys, thank you for watching. We'll have

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Speaker 1: new episodes up. Even Inka Terror who's blind, loves watching

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Speaker 1: Benny Versus the Penny. Have a wonderful rest of your day.

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Speaker 1: We will catch you tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow later, Skater, Is

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Speaker 1: that what Danny says? I think that's what he says, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: got a murder. I gotta go