1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media. Hello everyone, and welcome to it could 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: happen here. My name is Dan Alperd. I'm a professor 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: of political science and a researcher of Arab and Palestinian politics. 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Since I last recorded an episode, those in power have 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: been very busy. The world looks different from a month ago. 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: What would the assault on Minneapolis, the kidnapping of Venezuelan 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: President Maduro, the as of this recording, possible invasion of Greenland. 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: It's been hard for even the best of us to 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: keep up. As Znemic from the series and Or would say, 10 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: the pace of repression outstrips our ability to understand it. 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: And that is the real trick of the imperial thought machine. 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: It's easier to hide behind forty atrocities than a single incident. 13 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: I will never not squeeze in an and Or reference 14 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: when I can, given that this is the state of 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: the world. What's happening in Shalstein has largely slipped out 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: of most people's speeds and certainly the media headlines. But 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: lots is happening, Lots of dangerous things are happening, and 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to take this episode to give an update 19 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: of about what's been going on. Since the ceasefire was 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: announced three months ago, four hundred and forty nine Palestinians 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: have been killed by Israeli attacks and another one thousand, 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty six have been injured. Over one 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: hundred of those killed were children. According to UNISEF, the 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: Gaza Strip has been reduced even further with a new 25 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: quote yellow line demarketing where Israeli troops will remain and 26 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: where Palestinians are not allowed to go. They literally placed 27 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: concrete yellow blocks on the ground in Gaza, and as 28 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: the BBC notes from a report January sixteenth of this year, 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: Israel continues to push the yellow line further and further 30 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: into what remains of Gaza. The United Nations Office for 31 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs notes, quote the israel Early 32 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: military remains deployed in over fifty percent of the Gaza 33 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: Strip beyond the yellow line, where access to humanitarian facilities 34 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: and assets, public infrastructure, and agricultural land are either restricted 35 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: or prohibited. In this context, and despite this context, the 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: Trump administration has declared that Phares one of the Cispar 37 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: agreement is now over and that fes tow will commits. 38 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: The US has announced the launch of the second phase 39 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: of the Gaza ceasefire Agreement. Special ENVOYE. Steve Whitcoff shared 40 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: the news in a social media post, writing that Phase 41 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: two establishes a transitional, technocratic Palestinian administration in Gaza, the 42 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: National Committee for the Administration of Gaza. He also wrote 43 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: that it begins the full demilitarization and reconstruction of Gaza, 44 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: primarily the disarmament of all unauthorized personnel. Whitcoff says the 45 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: US expects Hamas to comply fully with its obligations, including 46 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: the immediate return of the final deceased hostage, and warns 47 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: that the failure to do so will bring serious consequences. 48 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: Now, this is the declaration, even though really, aside from 49 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: the return of Israeli hostages, no part of the twenty 50 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: point plan that the Trump administration put forward as the 51 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: quote peace Plan was realized. On the ground, eight is 52 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: being let in, but not at the levels that it's needed. 53 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: Attacks against Palestinians haven't stopped. Nonetheless, Phase two is apparently 54 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: starting with the naming of members of the Board of Peace. Now, 55 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: if listeners will recall from a previous episode, Trump declared 56 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: himself the chair of this Board of Peace that's supposed 57 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: to bring peace to the Middle East, and Tony Blair 58 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: was tapped to run it, much to the outrage of 59 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: anyone who witnessed Blair's cooperation and the destruction of Iraq. 60 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: Now this Board of Piece is going to run the 61 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: Gaza strip and its quote unquote technocratic government, and it's 62 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: going to make sure how Masty militarizes and that Palestinians 63 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: don't step out of line. The Board of Peace is 64 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: one aspect of the Great Plan, Great Standing for Gaza Reconstitution, 65 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: Economic Acceleration and Transformation Plan, a plan that apparently will 66 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: turn Gaza into the Riviera of the Middle East. The 67 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: Huffington Post reported January seventeenth that Trump is setting a 68 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: billion dollar price tag for any country that wants to 69 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: participate on this board. Members so far include Tony Blair, 70 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: Secretary of State Marco Rubio, son in law Jared Kushner, 71 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: US Special Envoy to the Middle East, Steve Witkoff, Mark Rowan, 72 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: the CEO of Apollo Global Management, Israeli billionaire Yakir Gabey, 73 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: and a number of others along the same vein. Among 74 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: those Trump has invited include Vladimir Putin, famously very interested 75 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: in peace and not at all in eradicating Ukrainian existence. 76 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: Trump also sent a letter to Victor Orban, far right 77 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: wing president of Hungary, to join the Board of Peace. 78 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: Orbon has apparently accepted this invitation. To remind listeners, Orbon 79 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: is one of Trump's models for authoritary takeover of democratic institutions. 80 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: Orbon is also very close ties with Prime Minister Nitaniehu 81 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: in Israel, despite his anti Semitic politics. Now, I thought 82 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: the letter he sent to Orbon and to every other 83 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: right wing politician he's been inviting was quite telling. In 84 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: the letter, Trump invites Orbon to join, presumably with the 85 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: billion dollar pay to play, and calls the Board of 86 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: Peace a quote bold new approach to resolving global conflict. 87 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: Reuter Is reporting on this issue, quoted an anonymous diplomat 88 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: saying it's a Trump United Nations that ignores the fundamentals 89 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: of the UN Charter. In fact, the charter of the 90 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: Board of Peace doesn't even mention Gaza. So what is 91 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: this bold new approach to resolving global conflict? It's apparently 92 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: a resolution to conflict that includes a neocolonial oversight board 93 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: run by white men to make sure the natives don't 94 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: get too excited. Now, this oversight board is intended to 95 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: manage conflict, because let's be clear, this isn't about solving 96 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: conflict at the expense of the people who have been 97 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: facing the brunt of this conflict. So we should take 98 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: them at their word that this is going to be 99 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: the way that global conflict is going to be resolved 100 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: from now on. This is the blueprint. Gaza is only 101 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: the test case, and in this new form of authoritarian 102 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: conflict management, the world will operate without any pretensions under 103 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: the premise of might is right, and if the Gaza Reconstitution, 104 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: Economic Acceleration and Transformation Plan is any indication, this plan 105 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: is predicated on encouraging Palestinians to ultimately leave Gaza, at 106 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: least some significant segment of them. So not only might 107 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: is right, but ethnic cleansing is a more than fine 108 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: way to resolve a dispute. And finally, the plan is 109 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: dedicated on the idea that reconstruction is a business opportunity. 110 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: So to review, Mike is right, ethnic cleansing is AOK, 111 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: and war is a prime real estate development opportunity. Now 112 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: things get even worse when we bring in the guy 113 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: who's been tapped to be the director general of this board. 114 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: Nikolai Maladanov is a Bulgarian politician, an x UN envoy 115 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: who has been tasked with quote disarming Gaza. According to 116 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: a report by Al Jazira published January fifteenth, he's the 117 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: guy who's going to oversee the National Committee for the 118 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: Administration of Gaza, the technocratic government which is run by 119 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: a Palstinian bureaucrats, and make sure that they stay in 120 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: line during the reconstruction phase. Somehow, these bureaucrats are supposed 121 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: to reconstruct Gaza while not being able to operate in 122 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: most of it. Anyway, Maladanov, this guy is really something. 123 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: He's a Bulgarian diplomat that worked as a minister for 124 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: one of the most corrupt governments in Bulgaria, a government 125 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: that faced mass protest pretty persistently. He is part of 126 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: a right wing populist party in Bulgaria. His father was 127 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: also involved in politics, specifically in the Bulgarian Virgin of 128 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: the KGIB before the transition from the communist regime. Since 129 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, he's been working in an Amarati institution, 130 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: the Unwar Gagaesh Diplomatic Academy, where he came out as 131 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: a quote vocal proponent of the Abrahamic courts, the normalization 132 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: agreements between Israel and several Arab states. Now it all 133 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: checks out, honestly that this is the guy who's going 134 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: to be the director General. The fact that this person 135 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: is the one being chosen for face two of the ceasefire, 136 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: and the fact that he has this kind of political 137 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: background should make clear that the plan for Gaza isn't 138 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: just a blueprint for the world new levels of authoritarian 139 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: conflict management with no pretense, but also a part and 140 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: parcel of the US Israeli Imarati vis for the region. Now, 141 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: this vision is one where Arab authoritarian regimes and Israel, 142 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: with the US supporting, remake the Middle East into a 143 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: quote modern, developed, tolerant Middle East, essentially by pouring concrete 144 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: over graves and building megacities on top of rubble. Their 145 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: vision of the Middle East is one that is authoritarian 146 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: and contained. More citizens are subjects. These subjects can have 147 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: some social freedoms and maybe some economic opportunities, but should 148 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: never think that they can have an opinion on anything 149 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: that happens to them. This is a vision where states 150 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: like the UAE the United Arab Emirates can arm militias 151 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: to conduct ethnic cleansing in Sudan and Israel can get 152 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: away with ethnic cleansing in Palestine because ethnic cleansing and 153 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: genocide are apparently a perfectly reasonable way of getting rid 154 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: of undesirables. Now, I'm not saying that this isn't how 155 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: these states operated even before the genocide and Gaza, and 156 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it wasn't how the US allowed certain 157 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: allies to operate even before Trump. Perhaps the writing was 158 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: on the wall when Palestinians were indefinitely occupied and no 159 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: one cared, or when Artzach was ethnically cleansed and Azerbaijan 160 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: got away with it. President Biden gave his blessing to 161 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: the destruction of Gaza after October seventh, after all, but 162 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: there used to be a pretense, a pretense of international 163 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: law and a quote liberal international order. There also used 164 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: to be variation on these issues. This type of authoritarian 165 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: conflict management wasn't always tolerated. In fact, Arab liberals who 166 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: advocated for democracy would often say that the US is 167 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: different from China or Russia in that at least it 168 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: was committed to democracy and international law and human rights. Rhetorically, 169 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: even if there was hypocrisy, they thought that that space 170 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: between reality and rhetoric could be leveraged and exploited. But 171 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: now there is nothing to be leveraged. Authoritarian conflict management 172 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: is the motor oparandee of powerful states, and according to 173 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's new doctrine, the don Roade Doctrine, each powerful 174 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: state gets to do what it wants in its own 175 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: sphere of influence. In fact, not only is territorial aggression valid, 176 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: it's actually the way the world should work. According to 177 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: all of Trump's spokespeople and parts of his administration, conquest 178 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: is totally fine. Here's Stephen Miller on Greenland, for example. 179 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: Under every understanding of law that has existed about territorial 180 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: control for five hundred years, to control a territory, you 181 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: have to be able to defend a territory, improve a territory, 182 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 3: inhabit a territory. Denmark has feeled that every single one 183 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: of these tests. 184 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: So Gaza is indeed the blueprint for what happens to 185 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: weaker states in war, or what happens in this case 186 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: to stateless people deemed undesirable and expendable. Now, what are 187 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: the Palestinians saying about all this? The technocratic government made 188 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: up of Pastine bureaucrats, is saying it's committed to a 189 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: reconstruction of Gaza that is rooted in quote, peace, democracy 190 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: and justice. The Palestinian Authority, the largely illegitimate and undemocratic 191 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: governance body that apparently governs the West Bank somehow and 192 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: represents Palestinians. They're putting out statements welcoming the Board of 193 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: Peace and Trump's vision, maybe because they think this will 194 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: earn them a seat at the table, or maybe it's 195 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: a way to sideline their main opposition, Hamas in whatever 196 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: crumbs of Palestine they're allowed to control in the future. 197 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: Hamas has said in a statement that they also welcome 198 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: the formation of the Administrative Committee for the Gaza Strip 199 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: to quote achieve comm in Gaza, while noting that they 200 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: are working with mediators to get to the next stage 201 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: of the ceasefire, and they accuse Zuel of trying to 202 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: break the ceasefire agreement. The Israeli government ironically rejects any 203 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: Palestinian involvement, even at the technocratic level, and have vowed 204 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: to take it up with their friend Trump and the 205 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: Palestinian people. Well, here is Gazen journalist Hintrodare of Al 206 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: Jazir English. 207 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: And what has been the reaction in Gaza to that 208 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: announcement of a move to Phase two. 209 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 4: Well, just like you said, it an announcement, a symbolic 210 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 4: announcement to Phase two. 211 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 5: Palatinians did not see anything on the ground. There's no change. 212 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 4: And despite all of that, we're still hearing drones as 213 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: you can hear in the background. We also heard a 214 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 4: couple of explosions since the early hours of the morning, 215 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 4: where demolishings are still going on across the Gazza strip, 216 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 4: especially after the yellow line. Palatinians are frustrated, They're very disappointed. 217 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 5: They thought that Phase two. 218 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: Would give them the freedom of movement, that would give 219 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 4: them reconstruction of Gaza would also give them a little 220 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 4: bit of what they lost. But on the ground, nothing happened, 221 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: nothing changed. What we know so far is there are 222 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 4: fifteen members that have been approved. 223 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 5: On to be ruling Gaza. 224 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 4: But there are a lot of questions and concerns this 225 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 4: is going to happen. What is going to happen to 226 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 4: the people here? The reconstruction, the rough crossing thousands who 227 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 4: need to get education and also people who need to 228 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: travel abroad to either get their treatment to get. 229 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 5: To reunite with their family. 230 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of questions, but mainly there is 231 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 4: a lot of frustration because there's nothing changing on the ground. 232 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: People in Gaza are beyond exhaustion. Everyone wants some path 233 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: forward out of this nightmare. But I really don't think, 234 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: for all the reasons I described here today, that this 235 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: is it and we shouldn't let them, the Trumps and 236 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: Orbonds and billionaires of the world, get away with the 237 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: narrative that they're peacemakers and that apparently this is all 238 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: in the name of tolerance and peace. That's it for 239 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: me today. 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