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Speaker 1: Why won't my girl talk to me?

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to gaslight her, manipulator, that's all. That's all, man,

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Speaker 2: that's I mean, it's such harmless crimes, you know, breaks,

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Speaker 2: Why why would you? Why would you stop it at that?

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Speaker 2: I don't see anything wrong here, you know, I say,

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Speaker 2: gaslight more. Yeah, and then maybe she'll realize that you're

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Speaker 2: a nice guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Like it's it's so clear that he is

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Speaker 3: a nice guy.

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Speaker 2: And the fact that she doesn't see it means she's

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Speaker 2: a bit Oh exactly exactly, this is true, This is

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Speaker 2: these are the facts. Sarcasm, sarcasm and casey k. There's

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Speaker 2: always that one person. Yeah, we're making a joke in

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Speaker 2: support of gaslight. I'm gaslighting.

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Speaker 1: We are. We are pro gas.

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Speaker 2: You're not gaslighting your significant other? Are you really able

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Speaker 2: to keep them interested?

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Speaker 3: Exactly? Like you're you're what is it? A high high

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Speaker 3: value man? You're not You're not gas lighting? Like, like,

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Speaker 3: what are you doing? You're an alpha male? Exactly keep

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Speaker 3: her on your toes. All right, let's see what this

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Speaker 3: nerd us to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, guys, I already posted on our relationships. For

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Speaker 2: the relationship side of all this, I don't. I don't

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Speaker 2: think there's a relationship here, my guy. I think you're

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Speaker 2: sad and alone. But I need some advice on the

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Speaker 2: legal side. All Right, dude, the relationship's gone. If you

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Speaker 2: need advice on the legal side. If you advice on

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Speaker 2: the legal side your front. Once lawyers are involved, it's over.

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Speaker 2: It's over unless you start dating the lawyer.

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Speaker 1: Now that's a plot twist.

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Speaker 2: That's a plot twist. You know. I was getting into

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Speaker 2: I wonder how many of the divorces, like, I was

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Speaker 2: getting divorce and then I was talking to my my,

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Speaker 2: my divorce attorney, and you know, we just like really

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Speaker 2: hit it off, and she just she just felt like

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Speaker 2: she knew me. And then they got get married.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's a rom com. You're on her.

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Speaker 3: Uh the if never never took care of me sexually,

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Speaker 3: it's like objection, my cheeks have been clapped to an

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Speaker 3: excellent degree?

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Speaker 1: Is that more radish?

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Speaker 2: That's what they do in divorce court, is like ya, dude,

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Speaker 2: your honor.

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Speaker 3: Wait, I'm pretty sure there is a movie where that happened.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember.

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Speaker 2: Where where it's like oh, yep, yep, yep, yep, I'm

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Speaker 3: It's an old movie with Denzel Washington, American gangster boom.

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Speaker 3: That happened in that movie. What they said they guy

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Speaker 3: was banging his lawyer. Really yeah, and then the wife

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Speaker 3: was like, well, y'all are.

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Speaker 2: So yeah that sounds it seems like a conflict of interest,

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Speaker 2: yes or something. Yeah. Yep. Anyway, for context, I am

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Speaker 2: twenty one and she is nineteen. I will give you

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Speaker 2: the short version of the story here, I guess. If

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Speaker 2: you need more context, see my other posts. Anyway, I

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Speaker 2: met this girl in January of this year and at

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Speaker 2: the start of the second ester at our university, when

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Speaker 2: we worked in one of the rec centers together, right,

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Speaker 2: classic rec center romance in a little R and R

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Speaker 2: wreck and romance. She was a freshman, I was a junior.

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Speaker 2: She started college a semester late, she said, because of

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Speaker 2: family issues and said she was nervous about it. So

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Speaker 2: I decided to show her around a bit. Yeah, show

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Speaker 2: her around. Okay, Opie what a nice guy. Also, dude,

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Speaker 2: I totally I totally said okayop Naturally I didn't. That

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Speaker 2: just like like, okay, Opie, like, hey, it's the title

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Speaker 2: of the show. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's like when they say the movie name of the movie.

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Speaker 2: It's like, uh uh, I just this is a TV show.

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Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, hit the Handmaid's Tale. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh man, the all this crazy stuff, I

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Speaker 2: have to write about it, and I'm a I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: call it the Handmaid's Tail comedy, all right, Uh okay.

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Speaker 2: So he showed around a bit. We got lunch a

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Speaker 2: few times during the first month on campus, and I

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Speaker 2: and I knew that I was in love. Love is

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Speaker 2: in the air everywhere, and Nop needs to change his

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Speaker 1: That's right, Clean up you stinky ass underpants.

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Speaker 2: Oh P, go on, oh P, that is not okay,

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Speaker 2: opp wrap up that gogurt packet. Just always wearing a

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Speaker 1: I'm a nice.

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Speaker 2: Guy, perfect impersonation. Yeah all right. Uh well, long story short.

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Speaker 2: I asked her out and she said, no, ah.

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Speaker 3: Rough they thought I was gonna work out of That's

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Speaker 3: what That's what we were all thinking.

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Speaker 2: I was heartbroken. I mean, I mean, of course, dude,

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Speaker 2: like they had spent all that time when he showed her.

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Speaker 3: A round kid, they met for lunch three times. I mean, oh,

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Speaker 3: they should have been naming their yeah a few times

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Speaker 3: their grandchildren by like lunch number three obviously.

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Speaker 2: Really, really, you missed the boat on this one, your

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Speaker 2: little lady. Well, long story. I was heartbroken, but she

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Speaker 2: agreed to still be friends. Unfortunately I don't have evidence

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Speaker 2: of this because the conversation was in person.

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Speaker 1: She agreed to be friends with me. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: that's hilarious.

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Speaker 2: This is so cringe broe. I tried several times throughout

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Speaker 2: the semester to show her what she meant to me,

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Speaker 2: but she ignored me and all. But she ignored me

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Speaker 2: and all the thought I put into the gifts I

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Speaker 2: my dirty gogurt baggage.

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Speaker 3: Here's this half eaten muffin. I just dreamt of how

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Speaker 1: Into it, so I wanted to give it to.

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Speaker 2: You to its center, so you could eat it and

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Speaker 2: know the taste of my lips Chriss. We had a

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Speaker 2: falling out that involved me drunk calling her and her

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Speaker 2: explain classic classic the drunk call, the drunk booty call

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Speaker 2: sinks the whole relationship does. I spent the last month

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Speaker 2: in apps depression think about her every day. She's blocked me.

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Speaker 2: She's blocked me on social media so I can't see

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Speaker 2: her profile. But I haven't texted her since school ended.

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Speaker 2: But it finally got me. But it finally got to

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Speaker 2: be too much for me. I decided I would try

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Speaker 2: one more time to show her how much she means

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Speaker 2: to me.

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Speaker 1: Please except my love.

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Speaker 2: Please, I promise I'm the nicest guys.

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Speaker 1: How can I stand on the planet. I will tell

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Speaker 1: you that until I die.

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Speaker 2: You know what they say, you say you're a nice

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Speaker 2: guy than you are actually don't matter. Yes, I knew

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Speaker 2: the town she moved. Oh god, I knew the town

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Speaker 2: she moved to school from. It's only like an hour

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Speaker 2: and we talked about it before. So I texted her

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Speaker 2: and I told her I'm coming to find her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you do. You track down their location

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Speaker 3: and you just ambush them. That's what you do. This

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Speaker 3: is how relationships is love. One oh one. Have you

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Speaker 3: heard of Romeo and Juliet?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Have you heard of what's the one with the hair?

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Speaker 2: And it falls Outel Punzel. That man was like, oh, dude,

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Speaker 2: there's this cutie in a castle. Let me just holler

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Speaker 2: up at her until she freaking saddles me with her hair.

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Speaker 1: I'm a nice guy.

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Speaker 2: Give me your hair.

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Speaker 1: Puts a whole new spin on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I mean literally like every the thing is

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Speaker 2: like literally every old Disney movie is creepy. Yeah, right, Like, uh,

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Speaker 2: what's the sleeping beauty? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Bro just pulls up and just starts some macking on

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Speaker 3: you when you're sleeping.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're like.

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Speaker 2: Also, how is that a good guss? Dude? It's like,

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Speaker 2: I mean, are you really getting enjoyment out of like, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: fun at all? Fun? Why why why?

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Speaker 1: Nobody?

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Speaker 2: Nobody wins? Nobody wins, and then you got an assault charge

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Speaker 2: on your hands. Those seven doors.

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Speaker 3: That would be such a hilarious adaptation is like Prince

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Speaker 3: Charming goes to kiss her and then he gets charged

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Speaker 2: And they did not live happily ever after.

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Speaker 1: The defendant mister prince.

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Speaker 2: But I'm a nice guy, Okay. I was going to

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Speaker 2: talk to her about everything. Once again. She couldn't even

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Speaker 3: Yeah, doesn't she know that everything he sends deserves a response?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally normal, totally normal text egg, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: And you don't even respond. The indecency, audacity.

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Speaker 2: I checked her Instagram that night and saw she was

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Speaker 2: She told me she hated bartying. It's like she's become

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Speaker 2: I'm just like that. I did freak out.

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Speaker 2: You got some issues my guy? Yep. Okay, honestly, this

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Speaker 2: guy is way too much and she should have cut

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Speaker 2: those three lunches to like one and then immediately done

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Speaker 2: a background check with public data check because this guy's creepy.

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 3: She could have seen if he had a criminal record,

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Speaker 3: if he was using the right name is address, like

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Speaker 3: all the information you need to see is this person

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Speaker 3: a maniac?

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Speaker 2: So if you got any creeps in your life, or

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Speaker 2: you want to see if that new hinge bumble kinder

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Speaker 2: date is really who they're saying they are, you should

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Speaker 2: go check out our Lincoln Bio public data check.

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Speaker 1: Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, She never replied big wow.

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Speaker 2: But I got a piece of mail today from her,

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Speaker 2: My heart. I was so excited. Yes, she finally took

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Speaker 2: the decency she did to respond. But then I opened

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Speaker 2: it and it was a season desist letter.

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Speaker 1: Ah.

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Speaker 2: She said she would seek legal avenues if I didn't

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Speaker 2: stop harassing her. What the fact, Reddit, I need to

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Speaker 2: know what I could do legally to talk to.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't want to.

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Speaker 2: Talk to you, bro, She send you a season desist letter.

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Speaker 2: It's not easy for a nineteen year old to get

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Speaker 2: a lawyer. Dude, for real, for real, she wants to

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Speaker 2: really wanted it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: This guy's are creep creepy, creepy, creepy creep. I just

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Speaker 2: I just need to know what I can do legally

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Speaker 3: How How how dare she let him live his life

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you would do that. From my research,

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Speaker 3: This just screams push until we get to season desist.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for the guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he wants he wants to go way past seasoness

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Speaker 2: is and then go straight to restraining order.

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Speaker 1: That's what I meant to.

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Speaker 2: Say, So basically, I don't think she can charge me

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to let's keep going? But what are

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Speaker 3: My thoughts here are this guy is an absolute maniac.

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Speaker 3: Like it's it's literally getting difficult to even like sarcastically

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you ever have someone that you knew that

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Speaker 1: That was that crazy? I mean I think I think like.

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Speaker 3: As a as as like a teenager or something like that,

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Speaker 1: Frutal, I'm gonna show her.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna like start doing push ups and like look

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Speaker 3: And then I matured and I was like, well, that

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Speaker 3: I did a few pushups, obviously, Uh, guy, I did.

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Speaker 3: I didn't keep I didn't keep up with it.

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Speaker 2: How dare you do push ups? If you breakes up?

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Speaker 2: where where where?

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Speaker 1: What is that song? It's like where where?

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Speaker 2: Where? Where? Where?

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Speaker 4: Where?

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Speaker 3: Where? Where?

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Speaker 2: Let me let me see?

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Speaker 1: Those are so great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like SpongeBob, I saw Phineas and ferb.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which one's the best? This is? This is my favorite?

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Speaker 2: But John, there's an update. Oh boy, okay, wait, well

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Speaker 2: should I go to should I do the edit? First

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well there is an edit and an update, so

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Speaker 2: the edit. Wow, everyone here is talking to me like

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Speaker 2: I'm a piece of Just to be clear, I have

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Speaker 2: you know. I do like he is. He's like, maybe

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Speaker 2: I know my last post ended on a few other subredits,

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Speaker 2: It was rough for me to read this original post,

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Speaker 2: but it was a reminder of my But it was

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Speaker 2: to post again for some closure. First, I want to

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Speaker 2: Since I moved, I no longer see her or go

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Speaker 1: There we go.

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Speaker 2: Wow, this is some serious girls.

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Speaker 1: A lot of growth, dude, I like a lot. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Internet for help of this guy. Guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if she wants to get closure by talking to me,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure she can find me somehow. And three, I

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Speaker 2: I learned in my classes that men do that a lot,

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Speaker 4: What are these classes, I guess nice guy one oh one, yeah,

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Speaker 4: how to turn nice nice guys actually nice guys. In conclusion,

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Speaker 4: a lot has changed for me in the last three

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Speaker 4: The class is a year long class, and I've only

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Speaker 4: so much. I've learned from my group that abuse is

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Speaker 4: read it.

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Speaker 2: These are actual friends and not just people I'm stalking

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Speaker 2: this extensive with my therapist and try to be cognizant

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Speaker 2: me straight. I'm sorry for how I decided to treat

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Speaker 2: This is like a full full like a redemption arc.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's complete growth. In my opinion, I think that

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Speaker 3: still you know, kind of like, oh, I still want

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Speaker 3: And he's like he's self aware about it, and he's

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Speaker 3: he's clearly doing and done the work he is. He's

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Speaker 2: It's all he dude, you you know, you had us

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Speaker 2: in the first half, but honestly, like you came through

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Speaker 2: and I'm I'm I'm really happy for you. That's that's growth.

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Speaker 1: Good luck on your life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah,