WEBVTT - Draft Show: On The Edge 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.080 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:13.159 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is the 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:18.279 Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room for 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:22.400 insider news and trapped analysis from deep within the confines 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:29.160 of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Frescope. And now 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:35.519 your hosts Brian brought us, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kyle Yeomans, and 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:43.360 David Hellman. It is Thursday, March the twenty fourth, twenty 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:47.520 twenty two. It's time for another episode of the Draft Show, 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.400 presented by Miller Lite. I think the next time we 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:54.440 talk to y'all it'll be inside of a month until 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:59.440 the twenty twenty two NFL Draft. Wild how that hap 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.920 coming up? Get your get your draft prep in order 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.240 thirty five days from now. So yeah, you're exactly right. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.800 We start watching these guys. I was gonna say, where 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.680 it come out? When does Dane's book come out? And 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.039 look those guys up, I said, first day or first 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:18.880 week of April? Is what you said at the combines. 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.240 I can tell you everything you need to know about 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.200 like the first one hundred and twenty guys, but like 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:27.839 the round six round set Dane Dane Brugler need your book, 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:32.400 please listen. We are a user driven show, a listener 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.720 driven show. That's the goal anyway. So I had a 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.639 whole I had a fun idea for a first segment 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:40.479 planned out. I hope we have time for it later 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.319 on in the show. But I'm just gonna give the 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.880 people what they want. Guys, Jeff Kavanaugh, Brian brought us, 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.280 Kyle Yeomans forgot about that, says sky More. No, it's 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.720 not Skymore. Got that out of the way. I say 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:53.880 to the chiefs or the packers. I hated a lot. 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:55.920 You have a thousand yard rookie year. No, we're gonna 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.320 talk about the opposite of Sky Moore, a guy from 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.400 a big school who plays on defense and scround. We 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:05.600 have been hearing everything about in case you Live under 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.560 a Rock. The Cowboys were in Oxford, Mississippi for Old 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:13.720 Missus Pro Day yesterday, and guys, I just can't stop 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.000 fielding questions about Sam Williams, and I think it's it's 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.440 it's enough. It's one thing when coaches and scouts show 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:22.240 up to a pro day, that's what they're supposed to do. 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.600 But Dan Quinn leads the Old miss Edge Rusher in 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.760 positional drills. At his pro day, he goes to talk 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.960 to the media, brings his son along and talks about 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:33.919 how they've been all over him, about how he's talked 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:38.200 to Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones thinks he could help Micah Parsons. 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.440 So I get it. I get the curiosity about this guy, 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.400 and so I'd like to lead the show off with 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.760 a conversation about Sam Williams. What do you know? What 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:51.480 do you think he bad? He ran a four four six, 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:55.240 so there being two hundred and sixty pounds and running 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.280 in the four fours is pretty good. And you can 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.960 watch him play against Charles Cross, which I did against 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:07.040 Mississippi State, and Sam Williams beats him a few times. 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:11.600 Sure does he is. He's a fast guy who has 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:17.800 I would say, flashes of power, but consistent tenacity. So 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:22.440 he beat Charles Cross inside, he straight armed him and 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.120 walked him back to the quarterback. I don't think he's 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.720 necessarily like a nuanced rusher. I think he can get 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.400 better in terms of hand usage and consistent pad level. 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.640 And I don't think he's a bendy guy like a 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.360 lot of times when he tries to win outside he's 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.240 runs himself out of the play and he just runs 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:40.400 behind the quarterback. But he's a fast big man with 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:44.160 a good get off, and being fast with a good 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.120 get off also means you can win inside. He's just 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.160 not very bendy, So I Sam Williams to me is 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:54.400 probably a top sixty to seventy player in this draft, 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:56.760 and I'm glad I saw so many cowboy things about 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.600 him because I hadn't even seen him yet, because I 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.560 hadn't seen him ranked highly by their people, so I 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.160 hadn't gotten to him yet. He's pretty good. Yeah we heard, 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.400 We've heard the name on and off, but yeah, I 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:09.080 mean nothing, nothing will kick that conversation into overdrive like 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.080 hearing and seeing that level of interest from the team. Brian, 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.080 what do you think now? I tell you what. This 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.360 guy makes a ton of plays from the backside, and 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:18.400 you could watch if you watch. The Liberty game is 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.080 a really good example of this, when Willis is trying 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.200 to go forward in the pocket and he comes around 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.919 behind him and there's some indecision in that pocket and 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.520 then boom, you got a guy that's closed. And I 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.640 think Jeff's got the player right. I did see a 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:33.640 little bit more power. In that Auburn game. There were 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.919 some times where like they were trying to run the 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.920 ball at him and he stoned the tackle, got rid 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.280 of him and then made a tackle for loss. Right there, 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.320 I thought was because I was interested in how much 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.640 power the guy could really play with. I always say 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:49.719 this about a guy. I mean when the especially guy 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.600 that gives great effort, This guy doesn't give up on plays. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.279 I mean he when you could see whether it's you know, 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.320 the Auburn game, A and M Liberty games and games 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:02.440 I watched, I mean you could see him just constantly 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.360 trying to get to the ball, and I think that's 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:08.039 something is a defensive end, you know, you could appreciate 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.719 about him. So, you know, I think there is a 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.400 little bit of an element of the slipperiness to his game. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.719 You know, Jeff's right, I don't think he's super bendy, 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.520 but I think there's some things that you could see 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.640 him dip his shoulder and get underneath the tackle and 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.880 then kind of redirect to the ball. So I could 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.560 see why the Cowboys like him. I could see why 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.039 dan Quinn went and worked him out. And it's funny 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.840 because going back to mobile He was not on the 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:35.080 initial Senior Bowl roster. He was a late edition after 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.440 somebody ended up believing it might have been Jermaine Johnson, 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.640 but I think he was there even before that. But 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.200 he comes out and he's in this white helmet. He's 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.400 not even in the old miss helmet. It's just a 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.600 plain white radell helmet, and he's running. He's got the 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.280 number seven. There's not even a name on the back 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:52.640 of his jersey. And I was sitting around a group 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.320 of guys and we're all kind of looking down here 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.560 at this edge rusher drill and we're saying, who is 0:05:56.600 --> 0:06:00.000 that guy? Yeah, who does that? Where did he come from? 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.000 Because he's not on the roster, he's not he doesn't 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.599 have a helmet. Who is he? And ultimately it ended 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.920 up being Sam Williams and the Bendinus. Like you said, 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.640 it's not one there, Jeff. But I think he's got 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.920 a little more ben than people given credit for, and 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:16.680 the athleticism, the strength, they're certainly where it needs to be. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.360 I kind of think he looks like a poor man's 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.320 Randy Gregory, where the versatility is there and there's multiple 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.720 things that he could do from a from an edge 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:30.760 Rusher standpoint, don't ever go to NFL dot com. If 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:34.760 you go to NFL dot com at playing something automatically, 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:38.240 that's okay. I gotta get those things. I was gonna 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:43.560 try and just talk right through. But while I thought 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.560 you did an adamiral job, thanks to be fair. People 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.000 talking my ear while I'm trying to broadcast part. So 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.120 it's part of what it goes. But yeah, I think 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:52.920 he's a good player, and I think if you had 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.560 to comp him, he's a poor man's Randy Gregory. I 0:06:55.600 --> 0:07:00.240 think I have two thoughts. One, we first talked about 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.040 Sam Williams at the Combine when Dane was filling in 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:06.200 for YouTube gentleman who couldn't make the trip, which we 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.400 all do it our best, we all, we all put 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.280 effort into this. I think we would all agree we're 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:14.520 not Dane Brugler. The man is a walking encyclopedia. So 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.840 I went back and listened to his scouting report, so 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.920 you don't have to if you don't want to. Was 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.800 a basketball player in high school, came late to football, 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.440 wound up having to go the Juco route. There are 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.200 there are off field issues here, and I think that's 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.720 probably why he's sort of been under the radar, especially 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.560 for a position that gets as much publicity as edge rusher. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.440 He was suspended in the summer of twenty I believe, 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:43.360 for a sexual battery charge in the Oxford area. It 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.880 was dropped. I'm not going to get two into the 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.040 weeds on it because I don't know a whole lot more, 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:53.080 but I will say we've I mean for I'll try 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.280 to take my words carefully, but the Cowboys are have 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.960 been willing to consider those guys. If you go back 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:03.000 as recently as last year, Michael Parsons came with maturity 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.360 and off field questions of his own. Josh Ball is 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:09.400 another one that we've talked about a lot, so I 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.760 don't think that would scare them. I assume they're going 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.120 to do their due diligence on it, but it's something 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:15.920 to consider just when you're talking about the player or 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:19.040 something no and then the other thing I want. So 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.120 this just reminds me. It reminds me of DeMarcus Lawrence 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:23.560 a little bit. To be honest with you, in the 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.880 sense that you're stuck in a spot where the premium 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.760 edge rushers in a class probably won't be there for you. 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:34.640 At pick twenty four. That's not normal. And everything y'all 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.720 are telling me is this sounds like a guy who 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:41.000 can address that need later on in the draft hopefully, 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.080 Yeah falls to you. Yeah, I knew. I mean, they're 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.640 probably gonna get him around earlier than I would have him. 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.640 I had him in the third is where I had 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.400 And I think the one guy that the edge rusher, 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.040 the premium edge rusher that you're talking about, that they 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:58.240 might have taken blew out as Achilles, you know, a 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.000 Jo David jab Jabo. Yeah, I think that he would have. 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.160 I mean, I think that's the one guy that might 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.120 have slid to him, depending on what they think about 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.440 Johnson from Florida State, But that was the one guy 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.440 that everybody kind of thought might be a first round 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.760 guy that would get to Dallas at twenty four. Initially 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.559 it was about Walker from Georgia and then the workouts 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.800 and stuff, and that's just not going to happen. I 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.080 don't think you're seeing him go as early as top 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.559 five now. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. It's kind of crazy. 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.199 He's a really good player. I mean, he's a really 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.200 good player. But I hope you know, people just you know, 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.120 take the workout, take the tape. Tape's good, you know, 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.439 I don't know if it's top five good. And I 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.040 don't want to say I'm surprised by this because it's 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.800 what we've been talking about this entire time. If this 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.600 is going to be an ice cream draft class, right, yep. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.559 But I actually I've I've been charting some of these 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.080 mock drafts, Like literally yesterday, I just went and I 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:49.440 compared Daniel Jeremiah's most recent mock to mel Kiper's most 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:53.839 recent mock to Dane's most recent mock. What are you doing? Oh? Yeah, 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:55.880 why would I Why would I want to know? What 0:09:55.880 --> 0:10:00.439 are you doing? Who? So? What do you ocd every year? Out? Yeah? 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.160 On a Bobby belt here, just gotta I think it's 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.400 interesting to know how different people value each prospect, and 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:12.199 the variance is pretty nuts, honestly. Number one, you're right 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:16.320 about Trayvon Walker. Yeah. And I just wonder though, like 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.160 does group speak take over after a certain point? Like 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.000 is this draft I feel like it's stronger than it 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.320 can't or has been in the past. Yeah, because for 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.520 the most part, because it's so interchangeable. As soon as 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:32.360 a group of people get enamored with a prospect, it's 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.760 not unlikely that that prospect jumps I really, I really 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.520 think it's even more likely that you see that group 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.840 speak coming to fruition. It usually it usually the change, 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.120 the big shift usually comes after the combine because what 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:49.240 happens is media scouts will throw their opinions out there early, 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:52.760 like we have in you know, January February, and then 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:56.160 all of a sudden, the scouts will then have words 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:58.760 with the media scouts, and the media scouts will realize, 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.280 oh I had that guy too high, or oh I 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.600 didn't have that guy enough or high enough. So that's 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.080 where I think that the really, if you look at 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.640 what was said in February March about these guys early March, 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.360 it's going to change after Look just check after the 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.160 combine because a lot of opinions about these players tend 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:18.880 to change because the scouts didn't get with their buddies 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.920 in the Median say you got this guy wrong or 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.160 you got him right yep, which Jermaine Johnson's another one 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.360 and be honest with yeah, yeah, DJ's got him going 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.560 top ten. Yeah. Danny Kelly another guy who's work I 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.360 really admire from the Ringer has him going twelfth overall. Sure, 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:37.400 and there's variants, but you just you see the valuation 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.760 of that position specifically. That's what makes me wonder if 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.160 there's a couple of positions here that I think that 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:46.240 we're all would be completely different on. And you mentioned 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:49.000 the ice cream reference, and that's about if you know, 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.520 my ice cream flavor is different from mirrors for sure, 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.160 and so yeah, I think there's I think if we 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.000 put all our wide receivers in order, that would be 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.280 completely different. I think if we put all our defensive 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.280 ends maybe with the exception of the top two depending 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.880 on if you you know, like Hutchinson or Thibodeau, whoever 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.680 you like, but other than that behind those guys, I 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.360 think it would be a completely mixed up order. And 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.400 Dallas has done their due diligence on a lot of 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.679 those guys too that are behind that uper echelon, because 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:17.959 I mean they've met with guys like Drake Jackson, Nick 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.720 Canino Williams. Like we mentioned, it might have had to 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.320 pivot here since they lost Randy Gregory, by the way, 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.160 Sure that might have been that might have been the 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.520 big pivot there, because you know, all of a sudden. 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:29.959 Maybe you're not thinking about defensive end. Remember we did 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.080 the show here I think it was last week or 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.120 you know, whenever. But when Randy, we all thought Randy 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.880 was signing we did, when we eliminated these defensive ends. Ye, 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.439 now dan Quinn's out working out potentially a second or 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.280 third round defensive end with some a little bit of 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.800 baggage from Mississippi. That's a really good point. I want. 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.080 I mean, I tend to think they might have done 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.800 that anyway. But we said, Jeff, you and I were 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.640 talking about the defensive end rotation that's currently on this 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.800 team on Tuesday, and I was like, yeah, I feel 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.160 fine about that. I would love to like I would 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.360 love to be a on the wall for dan Quinn. 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.080 And He's just like, I'm not fine with this. I 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.080 don't feel good about I think I think two is 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:09.000 anytime you see dan Quinn showing up at a pro day, 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.720 that's a big stick in the room because what's happened 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.040 is dan Quinn came in and gave your defense. Not 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:17.400 only do you improve the scheme, he approved the accountability 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.240 and he proved it. He approved the player that's on 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.760 the field. So dan Quinn is going to have a 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:26.199 lot of say and what happens on that defensive side 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.320 of the ball. And so if he's you know, working 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.560 out a guy like Sam Williams and stuff like that, 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:32.640 you know, I think he's gonna, you know, if it 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.080 comes down to what about this player? What about this player, 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.600 Dan's gonna walk in that room when we're all sitting 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.600 here watching the war room came and he's gonna start 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.240 pointing out guys that he's worked out, and this guy's 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.640 gonna worry. So I would definitely keep an eye on 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.520 the thirty visits, and i'd also keep an eye on 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.199 where Dan Quinn's been working out people. We've been getting 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.680 a lot of questions about thirty visits. I know got 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.920 four of them. A few of leaked out. We mentioned 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.480 trailing Burke's Leale out of Texas A and m As 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.280 another one Alave from Ohio State in Green and Green 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.120 from Texas A and m before. We know. So far 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.920 we're trickling. Yeah, we'll get we'll get some more. It's again, 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.319 it's not April yet, which I feel like the Cowboys 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.880 timeline for the thirty visits is usually like first two 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:12.880 weeks of April. I Yeah, they figured that out. They'll 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.680 they'll start putting their board together too here pretty soon 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.200 once all the pro days get in the books, and 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.960 then they'll schedule with Jerry and Steven how their schedule 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.440 needs to be, and then they'll start on their process. 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:27.520 Given the Sam Williams focus, can I impose upon y'all, 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.720 let's give me give me your your edge rushers that 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.320 you're confident aren't going to be first round picks, but 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:40.720 maybe that thirty five to eighty eight sort of sweet 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.960 spot day two edge rushers that they might be curious about. 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:48.120 I heard a guy pronounce this name a little while ago, 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:52.080 so I think I can say this right. Ebbitt Katie. Yeah, 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.040 State Katie would be good because I think five of 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:56.560 them are going to go in the first round. That's 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:01.280 my guests. Yeah, at least Hutchinson, Thibadeau, Walk, Karlotis Johnson, 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:06.040 and then in order too and Ojabo who knows um. 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.480 So then my next guys, my second round guys, Ebba 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:13.960 Katie at Penn State, My next one, Sam Williams, Wow, 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:18.480 I had a boy a mofe, Nick Benito, interesting nig 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:22.840 Bare at South Carolina and Logan Hall at Houston. You 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.520 have him as an edge rusher, not a three technique. Yeah, 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.360 I mean he might be right, Jeff might be right 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.440 about he's he's a tweener. Put him wherever you one. 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.160 I had him on both boards for a little bit, 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.040 not to piss Jeff off. Going back to my mock 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:39.120 draft chart. Not an insignificant number of people mocking him 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.760 into the first round. By the way, who's that Logan Hall? 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.040 Oh yeah, yeah, no, No, he's not been up there. No, 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:48.520 I mean you would take absolutely not at no. If 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:50.360 I if I were to put Logan Hall with my 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:54.040 d tackles, he would probably be D tackle number four, 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:58.560 behind Jordan Davis, DeVante Wyatt, Trivis Jones. He'd probably be 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.680 the fourth. By the way, they had their defensive line 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:05.640 coach up in the stores Connecticut working on the Travis Jones. Yeah, 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.760 I see you. What do you got, Bryan? I tend 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:12.560 to have Mafe is my second round guy. I was Johnson, 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.120 a Jabo and then Mafe. That's before the injury too. 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.120 But I'm gonna leave the kid at Michigan there. I 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.080 think the Cowboys do the same thing. It's you know, 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.440 they'll say, well, let's give the players Due. They did 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.520 it with they did it with the Jalen Smith. They'll 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.200 probably have a second maybe first round grade and they'll 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.280 probably leave him there. But then I went with williams 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.280 Our Penn State guy. Then I went with South Carolina 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:38.480 and I don't really like Drake Jackson all that much. 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.440 My J Sanders was down there too, and then Benito 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.760 would be my last guy there in the third. Is 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.760 how I had that rated. I'm higher on my j 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.920 than I think everybody is. I don't know why. I 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.600 could be completely wrong, but I like his strength. I 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.560 like his potential as an athlete. I have him in 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:58.880 that second round category. He's not above like a boy 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:03.040 a Mafe or an Arnold, the Ebacadie, even Kingsley, a 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:06.560 Nagbarre from South Carolina. Those are the guys there that 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.399 I want to hear you. If you guys have watched 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.399 this guy, Cameron Thomas from San Diego, I have. I 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.320 have him in the third, but he's kind of knocking 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.800 on that door of maybe a second round potential. What 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.359 do you like about him? I'll tell you what the 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.320 thing about him is. And you know, initially when you 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:25.960 watched him play, I was I was just the motor 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.159 on this guy. I mean it never he never stops. 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.320 And you know, I was, I was interested about him 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.120 because I was kind of looking at the six four, 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:37.119 he's two sixty seven. He kind of fits that long 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.440 rangy profile. But this guy, I mean when you watch 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:42.639 him play, he has the ability to create turnovers. I 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:46.000 mean he's in the pocket, he tips passes, he chases 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.640 the ball, he's got start stop quickness. I mean he 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.439 gains a lot of ground on that first step and 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.880 then he's kind of able to sharpen that corner. So 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.080 you know, I was, I was pretty impressed with him. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.880 You know. And again this is one of those compared 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.160 since I mean, and it's not just the white guy 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.320 to white guy thing, but I think he's got some 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.400 Ryan Carrigan to his game, you know, that kind of thing. 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.560 I think there's that kind of vibe with that high effort, 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.280 high motor. He's in the way, he's knocking balls down, 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:16.960 he's creating turnovers, he's getting sacks. I think this is 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.760 a guy that I might have him around too low 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.119 on where you know, where my notes say, he's what 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.520 do you have him? I'm the fourth fourth? Okay, Yeah, 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.280 one of my first thoughts all the way back in 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:31.320 January or whatever about George Karloftis was Carrigan and I 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.760 was like, are they similar or are they just white? 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:37.320 Like sometimes mean, like I think with things I look at. 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:41.560 You know, Drake London from from usc to me, he's 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.240 like Adam Feeland. When you watch Adam Feeland play and 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.680 you know, the disability to run all these routes, high 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.240 point balls, you know, get open. Maybe he's not always separated, 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.080 but man, he makes a lot of plays. And so 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:54.840 I kind of was like thinking, that's who I was 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.359 watching when I saw Drake London play. 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